LiveMATCHDAY LIVE: Crawley Town v Swindon Town

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  • Crawley Town 1 (McLeod pen, 51) Swindon Town 0
  • McLeod gives the hosts the lead from the spot
  • Louis Thompson gives away the penalty and is sent off
  • Louis is fit and starts but Brad Smith and Anton Rodgers miss out through injury
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  • REPORTING BY TOM BASSAM AND ANDY WARREN

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1:32pm Sat 16 Aug 14

London Red says...

Ranger has signed for Blackpool
.
Really hope he has turned over a new leaf - otherwise that is a recipe for disaster!
Ranger has signed for Blackpool . Really hope he has turned over a new leaf - otherwise that is a recipe for disaster! London Red
  • Score: 2

1:36pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Paddy's wigwam says...

Beat me to it London Red... That could get very messy!!
Beat me to it London Red... That could get very messy!! Paddy's wigwam
  • Score: 0

2:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Northern Red says...

Sean Morrison to Cardiff for 4 million.
Anyone know if Swindon get a cut of that?
Sean Morrison to Cardiff for 4 million. Anyone know if Swindon get a cut of that? Northern Red
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Northern Red says...

Ranger, a man of loose morals, goes to Blackpool, a town of loose morals.
Barring prison, I'd have thought Blackpool is the best place for him!
Ranger, a man of loose morals, goes to Blackpool, a town of loose morals. Barring prison, I'd have thought Blackpool is the best place for him! Northern Red
  • Score: 0

2:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Northern Red says...

No sell on?
Bit naive of the administration at the time (I forget who it was that week!)
Hopefully LP is wise enough to put sell ons on any of our young starlets when they move on...
No sell on? Bit naive of the administration at the time (I forget who it was that week!) Hopefully LP is wise enough to put sell ons on any of our young starlets when they move on... Northern Red
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Sat 16 Aug 14

port de soller says...

Ranger was a problem player with all kinds of baggage yet when he was on form he did well for STFC.Hope he has turned the corner and does well at Blackpool
Ranger was a problem player with all kinds of baggage yet when he was on form he did well for STFC.Hope he has turned the corner and does well at Blackpool port de soller
  • Score: 4

2:48pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Since 1950 says...

Bert's babes. Now, Come on Coopers Kids!!
COYR!
Bert's babes. Now, Come on Coopers Kids!! COYR! Since 1950
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Sat 16 Aug 14

california andy says...

COYR. Let's have another good result. Great that Louis can play.
COYR. Let's have another good result. Great that Louis can play. california andy
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Sat 16 Aug 14

port de soller says...

Good 45 minutes however the ball over the top maybe a mega problem in the 2nd half
Good 45 minutes however the ball over the top maybe a mega problem in the 2nd half port de soller
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

jason900 says...

thats unjust - dominated then concede a pen!!
thats unjust - dominated then concede a pen!! jason900
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Since 1950 says...

That's the problem playing a high line. We're very subject to be caught by route one. Paid the price for not capitalising on the first half pressure.
That's the problem playing a high line. We're very subject to be caught by route one. Paid the price for not capitalising on the first half pressure. Since 1950
  • Score: 0

4:24pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

port de soller wrote:
Good 45 minutes however the ball over the top maybe a mega problem in the 2nd half
Hi oh hi ho with our dwarf like defence we go! Very prophetic Stuie boy! Long ball down the middle defence caught napping and LT gets sent off. Can't see us getting owt today with 10 men and Wilma on!
Got no answer to route 1 football from Crawley at the moment it seems.
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Good 45 minutes however the ball over the top maybe a mega problem in the 2nd half[/p][/quote]Hi oh hi ho with our dwarf like defence we go! Very prophetic Stuie boy! Long ball down the middle defence caught napping and LT gets sent off. Can't see us getting owt today with 10 men and Wilma on! Got no answer to route 1 football from Crawley at the moment it seems. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

4:31pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Di kanny oh says...

Northern Red wrote:
Sean Morrison to Cardiff for 4 million.
Anyone know if Swindon get a cut of that?
not a penny
[quote][p][bold]Northern Red[/bold] wrote: Sean Morrison to Cardiff for 4 million. Anyone know if Swindon get a cut of that?[/p][/quote]not a penny Di kanny oh
  • Score: 0

4:40pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Blazing Riff says...

Currently, BBC stats show 25 shots by us but the problem is only 7 have been on target!
Currently, BBC stats show 25 shots by us but the problem is only 7 have been on target! Blazing Riff
  • Score: 0

4:46pm Sat 16 Aug 14

umpcah says...

It doesn`t seem to be our day today. Cant win them all I suppose !
It doesn`t seem to be our day today. Cant win them all I suppose ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Di kanny oh says...

No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.
No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Blazing Riff says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.
Not sure we needed a plan B when we had 26 shots and 16 corners. Just someone capable of sticking the ball in the net!
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.[/p][/quote]Not sure we needed a plan B when we had 26 shots and 16 corners. Just someone capable of sticking the ball in the net! Blazing Riff
  • Score: 8

5:04pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Blazing Riff says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.
Not really sure we needed a plan B with 25 shots and 16 corners! Just someone who could stick the ball in the net.
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.[/p][/quote]Not really sure we needed a plan B with 25 shots and 16 corners! Just someone who could stick the ball in the net. Blazing Riff
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Sat 16 Aug 14

NEWBURYREDS says...

Cooper is sounding like john Gorman every time he speaks = best team but lost! id rather play crap and win, but their still young boys, so lets hope those chances will go in at the gills
Cooper is sounding like john Gorman every time he speaks = best team but lost! id rather play crap and win, but their still young boys, so lets hope those chances will go in at the gills NEWBURYREDS
  • Score: 3

6:33pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Blazing Riff wrote:
Di kanny oh wrote:
No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.
Not really sure we needed a plan B with 25 shots and 16 corners! Just someone who could stick the ball in the net.
DKO last seasons game against Crawley was dire and I didn't fancy a repeat dose. Riff is right, Smith for all his success so far this season won't score every fame and his job is bade harder when teams like Crawley park the bus. Wilma will never be much help I'm afraid despite all the effort and running. In games like this we need players who can mix it and as talented as our midfielders are grafters they ain't. Riff is right we need at least an average regular goalscorer and Smith might be that man but a backup option is needed and Gladwin & Wilma aren't it.
Sounds like their penalty may have been a bit dubious but that's football you don't get the rub of the green every time.
Pikeys on Tuesday will be a similar prospect and Cooperman and his team gave to work in finding an alternative playing approach when the fancy dan pretty stuff doesn't work or is stifled by the opposition.
[quote][p][bold]Blazing Riff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: No plan B especially with 10 men poor day out really should be looking to get something at dumps like this.[/p][/quote]Not really sure we needed a plan B with 25 shots and 16 corners! Just someone who could stick the ball in the net.[/p][/quote]DKO last seasons game against Crawley was dire and I didn't fancy a repeat dose. Riff is right, Smith for all his success so far this season won't score every fame and his job is bade harder when teams like Crawley park the bus. Wilma will never be much help I'm afraid despite all the effort and running. In games like this we need players who can mix it and as talented as our midfielders are grafters they ain't. Riff is right we need at least an average regular goalscorer and Smith might be that man but a backup option is needed and Gladwin & Wilma aren't it. Sounds like their penalty may have been a bit dubious but that's football you don't get the rub of the green every time. Pikeys on Tuesday will be a similar prospect and Cooperman and his team gave to work in finding an alternative playing approach when the fancy dan pretty stuff doesn't work or is stifled by the opposition. The Jockster
  • Score: -2

7:21pm Sat 16 Aug 14

igiwigi says...

"I wus there".


Swindon dominated the whole match ,but caught again by the ball over the top!!!

I thought that they had stopped this on the training pitch after the Luton match and Scunthorpe.

We have all the skill to kill ,but heartbreakingly we have not got a decent striker.
Kasim has got to distribute the ball quicker as he sometimes gets caught and the opposition are then on goal.
Luongo you cannot fault and williams played a good game today.
Do not put Branco on the wing!!NoNoNon!!!

I think Swindon have a lot of positives from this game and they will have to be on their metal against Gillingham

DO NOT KEEP PASSING BACK SWINDON!!! "GO FORWARD "
"I wus there". Swindon dominated the whole match ,but caught again by the ball over the top!!! I thought that they had stopped this on the training pitch after the Luton match and Scunthorpe. We have all the skill to kill ,but heartbreakingly we have not got a decent striker. Kasim has got to distribute the ball quicker as he sometimes gets caught and the opposition are then on goal. Luongo you cannot fault and williams played a good game today. Do not put Branco on the wing!!NoNoNon!!! I think Swindon have a lot of positives from this game and they will have to be on their metal against Gillingham DO NOT KEEP PASSING BACK SWINDON!!! "GO FORWARD " igiwigi
  • Score: 1

7:35pm Sat 16 Aug 14

akershaker says...

igiwigi wrote:
"I wus there".


Swindon dominated the whole match ,but caught again by the ball over the top!!!

I thought that they had stopped this on the training pitch after the Luton match and Scunthorpe.

We have all the skill to kill ,but heartbreakingly we have not got a decent striker.
Kasim has got to distribute the ball quicker as he sometimes gets caught and the opposition are then on goal.
Luongo you cannot fault and williams played a good game today.
Do not put Branco on the wing!!NoNoNon!!!

I think Swindon have a lot of positives from this game and they will have to be on their metal against Gillingham

DO NOT KEEP PASSING BACK SWINDON!!! "GO FORWARD "
They pass back because there isnt an option to play a short forward pass. The tactic is to keep possession and draw the opposition out to create space to play into. It's patient play. The alternative is head tennis. The people shouting "play it forward" are the same who used to shout "get it down."
[quote][p][bold]igiwigi[/bold] wrote: "I wus there". Swindon dominated the whole match ,but caught again by the ball over the top!!! I thought that they had stopped this on the training pitch after the Luton match and Scunthorpe. We have all the skill to kill ,but heartbreakingly we have not got a decent striker. Kasim has got to distribute the ball quicker as he sometimes gets caught and the opposition are then on goal. Luongo you cannot fault and williams played a good game today. Do not put Branco on the wing!!NoNoNon!!! I think Swindon have a lot of positives from this game and they will have to be on their metal against Gillingham DO NOT KEEP PASSING BACK SWINDON!!! "GO FORWARD "[/p][/quote]They pass back because there isnt an option to play a short forward pass. The tactic is to keep possession and draw the opposition out to create space to play into. It's patient play. The alternative is head tennis. The people shouting "play it forward" are the same who used to shout "get it down." akershaker
  • Score: 11

7:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

OOO-RU says...

Defensive clangers were finally cut out last season once we signed JS. Hopefully he'll be back by the weekend!
Defensive clangers were finally cut out last season once we signed JS. Hopefully he'll be back by the weekend! OOO-RU
  • Score: 3

7:51pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Wayne Allison Bromham says...

Unlucky today but certain players like Byrne only seem to fancy it when it's going our way, he's been excellent in the first few games, but think he has been flattered by opposing full backs that haven't been up to it. Crawley were a bit wiser to it today and Byrne didn't have so much success. He and Kasim look like confidence players. Today looked like we needed a good striker as much as Williams tries it just continues to not work out for him here, looked like a league 2 player today. For all the possession and shots etc we still only made Jensen make 1 really good save. Think we will dominate and score plenty at home but away is going to be much tougher for a young group of players and they are going to have to man up and show some steel if we are to make play offs or better
Unlucky today but certain players like Byrne only seem to fancy it when it's going our way, he's been excellent in the first few games, but think he has been flattered by opposing full backs that haven't been up to it. Crawley were a bit wiser to it today and Byrne didn't have so much success. He and Kasim look like confidence players. Today looked like we needed a good striker as much as Williams tries it just continues to not work out for him here, looked like a league 2 player today. For all the possession and shots etc we still only made Jensen make 1 really good save. Think we will dominate and score plenty at home but away is going to be much tougher for a young group of players and they are going to have to man up and show some steel if we are to make play offs or better Wayne Allison Bromham
  • Score: 2

8:28pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

WAB - that looks like a pretty good summation to me.
WAB - that looks like a pretty good summation to me. The Jockster
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Sat 16 Aug 14

mancrobin says...

NEWBURYREDS wrote:
Cooper is sounding like john Gorman every time he speaks = best team but lost! id rather play crap and win, but their still young boys, so lets hope those chances will go in at the gills
To a point Newbury but hey, give 'em a chance! If Cooper says that 3 or 4 times in the first 10 games then I'll go along with you but we are still bedding in a very new team in a league that is yet to settle down.

We convincingly beat Scunthorpe last week who had been quite fancied before the season started but they got thumped 4-0 at home today.

Top end expectations for me would be a draw at Gillingham ( who did well today) and a win against Crewe. Having said that, a narrow loss and a draw respectively would not be disastrous at this stage.

I think we need to be far more patient before making sweeping judgements. Fair play if you went today Newbury, I won't see the Town until the Chesterfield game.
[quote][p][bold]NEWBURYREDS[/bold] wrote: Cooper is sounding like john Gorman every time he speaks = best team but lost! id rather play crap and win, but their still young boys, so lets hope those chances will go in at the gills[/p][/quote]To a point Newbury but hey, give 'em a chance! If Cooper says that 3 or 4 times in the first 10 games then I'll go along with you but we are still bedding in a very new team in a league that is yet to settle down. We convincingly beat Scunthorpe last week who had been quite fancied before the season started but they got thumped 4-0 at home today. Top end expectations for me would be a draw at Gillingham ( who did well today) and a win against Crewe. Having said that, a narrow loss and a draw respectively would not be disastrous at this stage. I think we need to be far more patient before making sweeping judgements. Fair play if you went today Newbury, I won't see the Town until the Chesterfield game. mancrobin
  • Score: 3

9:15pm Sat 16 Aug 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Firstly Since 1950 from the predictions page, sod the play-offs lets just go up automatically. I'm actually more optimistic after today. Yes it's a bad result and yes we lacked composure but if you create that many chances you'll murder teams. Just like we did a couple of years ago, a number of games we should have won we didn't followed by a five nil hammering of Tranmere and big wins thereafter.

Also I'm taking the siege mentality/hacked off players not giving interviews as a positive. Let's dig in as a team and kick the hell out of this division. Come on you Reds.....
Firstly Since 1950 from the predictions page, sod the play-offs lets just go up automatically. I'm actually more optimistic after today. Yes it's a bad result and yes we lacked composure but if you create that many chances you'll murder teams. Just like we did a couple of years ago, a number of games we should have won we didn't followed by a five nil hammering of Tranmere and big wins thereafter. Also I'm taking the siege mentality/hacked off players not giving interviews as a positive. Let's dig in as a team and kick the hell out of this division. Come on you Reds..... dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 10

10:41pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Wayne Allison Bromham says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Firstly Since 1950 from the predictions page, sod the play-offs lets just go up automatically. I'm actually more optimistic after today. Yes it's a bad result and yes we lacked composure but if you create that many chances you'll murder teams. Just like we did a couple of years ago, a number of games we should have won we didn't followed by a five nil hammering of Tranmere and big wins thereafter.

Also I'm taking the siege mentality/hacked off players not giving interviews as a positive. Let's dig in as a team and kick the hell out of this division. Come on you Reds.....
Good points here, we have to stick to our style of play and keep hammering away at teams, breaking them down
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Firstly Since 1950 from the predictions page, sod the play-offs lets just go up automatically. I'm actually more optimistic after today. Yes it's a bad result and yes we lacked composure but if you create that many chances you'll murder teams. Just like we did a couple of years ago, a number of games we should have won we didn't followed by a five nil hammering of Tranmere and big wins thereafter. Also I'm taking the siege mentality/hacked off players not giving interviews as a positive. Let's dig in as a team and kick the hell out of this division. Come on you Reds.....[/p][/quote]Good points here, we have to stick to our style of play and keep hammering away at teams, breaking them down Wayne Allison Bromham
  • Score: 2

11:07pm Sat 16 Aug 14

stranglers says...

We lost, nothing else to say.
We lost, nothing else to say. stranglers
  • Score: -14

7:51am Sun 17 Aug 14

umpcah says...

stranglers wrote:
We lost, nothing else to say.
So did Manchester United ! It happens.
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: We lost, nothing else to say.[/p][/quote]So did Manchester United ! It happens. umpcah
  • Score: 5

9:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

Whether the penalty decision was harsh or not, surely the bigger worry for Cooper is the fact that one of his midfielders was the last man and had to resort to a desperate attempt to prevent a goal. Aren't we supposed to have three central defenders?

It's interesting that on Tuesday night, people who were at the other end of the ground - or not even there - insisted they knew better about a penalty decision than a linesman with an unobstructed view from a few yards away, yet now our manager and players are up in arms because the ref has ignored the fact that a linesman with a good view did not signal for a penalty!

manc, Crawley signed 17 players in the close season. Now that's what I call bedding in a new team. They've had three wins from three games and not conceded a goal. I'm not unhappy with our start to the season but I don't think we should look for excuses every time we get a bad result. In our three games to date we've been caught out with a high ball in exactly the same area of the pitch. Cooper needs to get on that case.
Whether the penalty decision was harsh or not, surely the bigger worry for Cooper is the fact that one of his midfielders was the last man and had to resort to a desperate attempt to prevent a goal. Aren't we supposed to have three central defenders? It's interesting that on Tuesday night, people who were at the other end of the ground - or not even there - insisted they knew better about a penalty decision than a linesman with an unobstructed view from a few yards away, yet now our manager and players are up in arms because the ref has ignored the fact that a linesman with a good view did not signal for a penalty! manc, Crawley signed 17 players in the close season. Now that's what I call bedding in a new team. They've had three wins from three games and not conceded a goal. I'm not unhappy with our start to the season but I don't think we should look for excuses every time we get a bad result. In our three games to date we've been caught out with a high ball in exactly the same area of the pitch. Cooper needs to get on that case. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

10:56am Sun 17 Aug 14

mancrobin says...

Den, I agree, we clearly have a problem at the back but Cooper has admitted that and says he is working on it. Stephens might also be here shortly.

Also agree with those that heroic defeats are not much use to anyone but I'm sure most fans who were at Molyneaux last season and all those who experienced the 93/94 season will agree it can be fantastic entertainment.

Like you Den, I'm not unhappy with the start but the results to date prove very little either way.

Here's to a great performance against our Kentish friends.
Den, I agree, we clearly have a problem at the back but Cooper has admitted that and says he is working on it. Stephens might also be here shortly. Also agree with those that heroic defeats are not much use to anyone but I'm sure most fans who were at Molyneaux last season and all those who experienced the 93/94 season will agree it can be fantastic entertainment. Like you Den, I'm not unhappy with the start but the results to date prove very little either way. Here's to a great performance against our Kentish friends. mancrobin
  • Score: 1

11:03am Sun 17 Aug 14

Robinonfire says...

We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
We need a forward... Williams not up to it. Robinonfire
  • Score: -4

12:26pm Sun 17 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why! The Jockster
  • Score: -5

1:12pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Paddy's wigwam says...

Jack Stephens is on the bench today for Saints.. Somehow, i can't see him coming back to us for this season. Shame really cos he looked a good player.
Jack Stephens is on the bench today for Saints.. Somehow, i can't see him coming back to us for this season. Shame really cos he looked a good player. Paddy's wigwam
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

smirg kcab says...

The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol.
Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol. Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Sun 17 Aug 14

smirg kcab says...

The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
As the famous lyrics of Hugh Cornwell said
I said something better change
Change
Change
Change
Change
Change
Change
Chaaaannnngggeeeee
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]As the famous lyrics of Hugh Cornwell said I said something better change Change Change Change Change Change Change Chaaaannnngggeeeee smirg kcab
  • Score: -1

3:22pm Sun 17 Aug 14

smirg kcab says...

I will pay for a plane with a banner with Stephens is not coming
Perhaps it may sink in to the fans and manager
Wouldn't bet on it tho
I will pay for a plane with a banner with Stephens is not coming Perhaps it may sink in to the fans and manager Wouldn't bet on it tho smirg kcab
  • Score: -2

4:50pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Chish and Fips says...

smirg kcab wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol.
Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club
Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today.

Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o)
I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol. Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club[/p][/quote]Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today. Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o) I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺ Chish and Fips
  • Score: 1

6:00pm Sun 17 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol.
Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club
Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today.

Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o)
I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺
You'll chip!! in eh! What a king Edward or Maris Piper? I'll bet you'll only do it on the condition he's not strapped in lol!
I'm with him on the Stephens front though, can't see him coming at all really and if he does it might be later in the season when the Flying Dutchman has had a chance to assess his back 4/5 in action and then decide whether or not he can release Stephens.
What worries me is that Cooperman seems to be biding his time over the issue.
I may not be Ron Manager but what was the idea of playing Branco out wide - wouldn't we be better with him in the middle, NT at rb & NB in front of him as the attacking wing back?
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol. Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club[/p][/quote]Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today. Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o) I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺[/p][/quote]You'll chip!! in eh! What a king Edward or Maris Piper? I'll bet you'll only do it on the condition he's not strapped in lol! I'm with him on the Stephens front though, can't see him coming at all really and if he does it might be later in the season when the Flying Dutchman has had a chance to assess his back 4/5 in action and then decide whether or not he can release Stephens. What worries me is that Cooperman seems to be biding his time over the issue. I may not be Ron Manager but what was the idea of playing Branco out wide - wouldn't we be better with him in the middle, NT at rb & NB in front of him as the attacking wing back? The Jockster
  • Score: -3

10:09pm Sun 17 Aug 14

old town robin says...

The Jockster wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol.
Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club
Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today.

Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o)
I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺
You'll chip!! in eh! What a king Edward or Maris Piper? I'll bet you'll only do it on the condition he's not strapped in lol!
I'm with him on the Stephens front though, can't see him coming at all really and if he does it might be later in the season when the Flying Dutchman has had a chance to assess his back 4/5 in action and then decide whether or not he can release Stephens.
What worries me is that Cooperman seems to be biding his time over the issue.
I may not be Ron Manager but what was the idea of playing Branco out wide - wouldn't we be better with him in the middle, NT at rb & NB in front of him as the attacking wing back?
I've been away for the weekend and only just catching up with the comments and opinions of the fans. Seems to be real mixed bag of differences and worryingly no urgency from MC to change things as he thinks everything is hunky-dory as long as we play nice football..

my first concern would be on top of our injuries to Brad Smith and Anton Rodgers we now lose another player with a suspension. we've now lost 3 of our very small squad. I really hoped there was going to be an improvement this season with our shocking disciplinary record, but it seems we have learned nothing as we continue to accumulate reds and yellows and the Thompson's are at the fore with the count. I haven't seen the sending off offence but if as others have said it was a tackle from behind in the penalty area, it would seem to me to be very risky knowing the quality of referee's at this level is poor and are just looking to get the cards out of their pocket.

The second concern I would have is nearly everyone interested in STFC have acknowledged we have a serious centre back problem as every opponent exploits the ball over the top which is our Achilles heel, but still there seems that nothing has been done to combat that tactic as we continue to play short players out of position to deal with it and then unbelievably according to reports play a centre back on the right wing, what is that all about, can anyone enlighten me as to what Mark Cooper's thinking with that move.

My third concern, as many of us have already said, we can't depend on Michael Smith to be our only source of goals, apart from 1 from Luango nobody else is contributing and there doesn't seem like there are any new faces coming in any time soon to strengthen the team.

In short we continue on from last season to fail to get results on the road against teams we dominate, our discipline remains poor, our defensive tactics are bizarre, we are short of a striker to support Smith and we can't get in any of our supposed targets. These are facts not me moaning about one poor result. I really hope Cooper address the obvious and we get a result against the Gills.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]Even di canio would have kicked him out and he signed him lol. Phone mr cooper and tell him Stephens would rather be on the bench than come to this tin pot club[/p][/quote]Grim did you not say the player Soton bought for that position was injured - could this be why Stephens was bench-warming today. Any chance of you 'Wing- Walking' on that banner plane as well :o) I'll chip in for the costs.. ☺[/p][/quote]You'll chip!! in eh! What a king Edward or Maris Piper? I'll bet you'll only do it on the condition he's not strapped in lol! I'm with him on the Stephens front though, can't see him coming at all really and if he does it might be later in the season when the Flying Dutchman has had a chance to assess his back 4/5 in action and then decide whether or not he can release Stephens. What worries me is that Cooperman seems to be biding his time over the issue. I may not be Ron Manager but what was the idea of playing Branco out wide - wouldn't we be better with him in the middle, NT at rb & NB in front of him as the attacking wing back?[/p][/quote]I've been away for the weekend and only just catching up with the comments and opinions of the fans. Seems to be real mixed bag of differences and worryingly no urgency from MC to change things as he thinks everything is hunky-dory as long as we play nice football.. my first concern would be on top of our injuries to Brad Smith and Anton Rodgers we now lose another player with a suspension. we've now lost 3 of our very small squad. I really hoped there was going to be an improvement this season with our shocking disciplinary record, but it seems we have learned nothing as we continue to accumulate reds and yellows and the Thompson's are at the fore with the count. I haven't seen the sending off offence but if as others have said it was a tackle from behind in the penalty area, it would seem to me to be very risky knowing the quality of referee's at this level is poor and are just looking to get the cards out of their pocket. The second concern I would have is nearly everyone interested in STFC have acknowledged we have a serious centre back problem as every opponent exploits the ball over the top which is our Achilles heel, but still there seems that nothing has been done to combat that tactic as we continue to play short players out of position to deal with it and then unbelievably according to reports play a centre back on the right wing, what is that all about, can anyone enlighten me as to what Mark Cooper's thinking with that move. My third concern, as many of us have already said, we can't depend on Michael Smith to be our only source of goals, apart from 1 from Luango nobody else is contributing and there doesn't seem like there are any new faces coming in any time soon to strengthen the team. In short we continue on from last season to fail to get results on the road against teams we dominate, our discipline remains poor, our defensive tactics are bizarre, we are short of a striker to support Smith and we can't get in any of our supposed targets. These are facts not me moaning about one poor result. I really hope Cooper address the obvious and we get a result against the Gills. old town robin
  • Score: -1

11:11pm Sun 17 Aug 14

the wizard says...

OTR, I think you are seeing it as it is, especially the concerns around cards and discipline. Its not bad stuff, like vicious tackles and sloppy stuff but a card is a card and they all add up. I think it's part of the learning curve, but it is and will cost us. I don't see any options though with such a small squad. I think survival is key on the financial front this season and the rumours are starting again, by probably the same doom mongers as before, and I don't go along all the rubbish about no smoke without fire, because court actions would have been under way by now if matters are as bad as some love to peddle. An interesting quote from Van Gaul yesterday when he said the players he wanted were just not available to strengthen his defense, so the cascade downwards didn't happen as much this summer as before in defenders that we wanted maybe and Cooper alluded to that when asked recently. I can't see us going the whole hog without more bodies and I suspect that there is no panic as promises have been made. We'll just have to do what we always do, wait and see. We have a lot of practice at that.
OTR, I think you are seeing it as it is, especially the concerns around cards and discipline. Its not bad stuff, like vicious tackles and sloppy stuff but a card is a card and they all add up. I think it's part of the learning curve, but it is and will cost us. I don't see any options though with such a small squad. I think survival is key on the financial front this season and the rumours are starting again, by probably the same doom mongers as before, and I don't go along all the rubbish about no smoke without fire, because court actions would have been under way by now if matters are as bad as some love to peddle. An interesting quote from Van Gaul yesterday when he said the players he wanted were just not available to strengthen his defense, so the cascade downwards didn't happen as much this summer as before in defenders that we wanted maybe and Cooper alluded to that when asked recently. I can't see us going the whole hog without more bodies and I suspect that there is no panic as promises have been made. We'll just have to do what we always do, wait and see. We have a lot of practice at that. the wizard
  • Score: -1

12:15am Mon 18 Aug 14

Oxon-Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
We need a forward... Williams not up to it.
Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why!
I don't disagree but hasn't Mark said we need another Striker and Town would like to get one. Five goals in three games ain't too bad is it or is it because a certain player has managed to score in 75 minutes of football.

You are better than agreeing with one line ROF, or are you ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: We need a forward... Williams not up to it.[/p][/quote]Dead right! Why the thumbs down? If you don't agree state why![/p][/quote]I don't disagree but hasn't Mark said we need another Striker and Town would like to get one. Five goals in three games ain't too bad is it or is it because a certain player has managed to score in 75 minutes of football. You are better than agreeing with one line ROF, or are you ? COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 2

1:10am Mon 18 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Wizard - would that be the same doomsters & "some love to peddles" that said weeks ago there was a 20k Plod bill outstanding only for it to be revealed last week that the estimated amount owed was nearer £30k. And has it been paid yet? Err no would be the answer otherwise it'd been splashed all over the Adver.
If your take on the financial situation is correct then you're as good as saying we can wave goodbye to strengthening the squad because there's no money to spend, therefore we can expect to struggle. What quite your analogy with what Van Guul said is all about I don't know except that I don't think it has burger all to do with players being available for us.
I know you are a firm LP lover but surely you are not so naive to think that the Old Bill bill is the only major creditor who's not been paid.
OTR and others are spot on, if we don't get a decent striker to back up Smith and get some defensive cover in the middle & quick then we are in the brown stuff big time.
I've seen Scunny & Luton games and now with Crawley we've conceded 3 goals In identical fashion because we had dwarfs at the back being put under pressure by route one attacks,
Cooper & Power have simply got to sort it!
Wizard - would that be the same doomsters & "some love to peddles" that said weeks ago there was a 20k Plod bill outstanding only for it to be revealed last week that the estimated amount owed was nearer £30k. And has it been paid yet? Err no would be the answer otherwise it'd been splashed all over the Adver. If your take on the financial situation is correct then you're as good as saying we can wave goodbye to strengthening the squad because there's no money to spend, therefore we can expect to struggle. What quite your analogy with what Van Guul said is all about I don't know except that I don't think it has burger all to do with players being available for us. I know you are a firm LP lover but surely you are not so naive to think that the Old Bill bill is the only major creditor who's not been paid. OTR and others are spot on, if we don't get a decent striker to back up Smith and get some defensive cover in the middle & quick then we are in the brown stuff big time. I've seen Scunny & Luton games and now with Crawley we've conceded 3 goals In identical fashion because we had dwarfs at the back being put under pressure by route one attacks, Cooper & Power have simply got to sort it! The Jockster
  • Score: -2

6:03am Mon 18 Aug 14

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wizard - would that be the same doomsters & "some love to peddles" that said weeks ago there was a 20k Plod bill outstanding only for it to be revealed last week that the estimated amount owed was nearer £30k. And has it been paid yet? Err no would be the answer otherwise it'd been splashed all over the Adver.
If your take on the financial situation is correct then you're as good as saying we can wave goodbye to strengthening the squad because there's no money to spend, therefore we can expect to struggle. What quite your analogy with what Van Guul said is all about I don't know except that I don't think it has burger all to do with players being available for us.
I know you are a firm LP lover but surely you are not so naive to think that the Old Bill bill is the only major creditor who's not been paid.
OTR and others are spot on, if we don't get a decent striker to back up Smith and get some defensive cover in the middle & quick then we are in the brown stuff big time.
I've seen Scunny & Luton games and now with Crawley we've conceded 3 goals In identical fashion because we had dwarfs at the back being put under pressure by route one attacks,
Cooper & Power have simply got to sort it!
Where is it revealed that the club owe the police the £30k that you speculate as I haven't seen it here, or heard it on Radio Wilts. Are there other amounts out standing ??? Really, and to whom, or is this , ah well can't reveal my sources, jobbie yet again.

yes we have conceded three goals, and no, I don't think Power has finished his dealing in the market yet, and expect a loan player or two to come in yet, and if they don't well, according to you we are skint and can't afford them, so there is your answer. Happy days. I'm not going to worry about it, but some will, to the nth degree no doubt, ah yes, the whirlpool of doom and gloom as our life on the planet depends on it, not.

Great success in the world at large yesterday and even the woman's RFU team put our so called soccer hero's to shame. At least they can win a world cup, something the pretty boys seem unable to grasp.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard - would that be the same doomsters & "some love to peddles" that said weeks ago there was a 20k Plod bill outstanding only for it to be revealed last week that the estimated amount owed was nearer £30k. And has it been paid yet? Err no would be the answer otherwise it'd been splashed all over the Adver. If your take on the financial situation is correct then you're as good as saying we can wave goodbye to strengthening the squad because there's no money to spend, therefore we can expect to struggle. What quite your analogy with what Van Guul said is all about I don't know except that I don't think it has burger all to do with players being available for us. I know you are a firm LP lover but surely you are not so naive to think that the Old Bill bill is the only major creditor who's not been paid. OTR and others are spot on, if we don't get a decent striker to back up Smith and get some defensive cover in the middle & quick then we are in the brown stuff big time. I've seen Scunny & Luton games and now with Crawley we've conceded 3 goals In identical fashion because we had dwarfs at the back being put under pressure by route one attacks, Cooper & Power have simply got to sort it![/p][/quote]Where is it revealed that the club owe the police the £30k that you speculate as I haven't seen it here, or heard it on Radio Wilts. Are there other amounts out standing ??? Really, and to whom, or is this , ah well can't reveal my sources, jobbie yet again. yes we have conceded three goals, and no, I don't think Power has finished his dealing in the market yet, and expect a loan player or two to come in yet, and if they don't well, according to you we are skint and can't afford them, so there is your answer. Happy days. I'm not going to worry about it, but some will, to the nth degree no doubt, ah yes, the whirlpool of doom and gloom as our life on the planet depends on it, not. Great success in the world at large yesterday and even the woman's RFU team put our so called soccer hero's to shame. At least they can win a world cup, something the pretty boys seem unable to grasp. the wizard
  • Score: -1

7:27am Mon 18 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k.

I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out.
Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right?
And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding?
Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k. I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out. Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right? And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding? The Jockster
  • Score: -1

8:09am Mon 18 Aug 14

umpcah says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k.

I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out.
Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right?
And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding?
" this might not be the only bill outstanding? " Part of the police debt has apparently been paid but the part could`ve been a large part with a disputed but small part " under revision " ? So much we fans don't know and possibly have no real right to know ! However most of us think there is a lot of playing for time going on in some STFC departments and it just has to be linked to availability of funds which has been admitted to.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k. I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out. Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right? And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding?[/p][/quote]" this might not be the only bill outstanding? " Part of the police debt has apparently been paid but the part could`ve been a large part with a disputed but small part " under revision " ? So much we fans don't know and possibly have no real right to know ! However most of us think there is a lot of playing for time going on in some STFC departments and it just has to be linked to availability of funds which has been admitted to. umpcah
  • Score: 0

8:32am Mon 18 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Umps the article in question states that about a quarter of the o/s amount has been paid. If that is correct then that means 3/4 remains unpaid.
I certainly don't agree that fans don't have a right to know, if I'm investing my hard earned regularly I want to know that what I'm investing in has a business plan in place that ensures creditors bills are being paid and not mounting up to a point where administration becomes inevitable.
Umps the article in question states that about a quarter of the o/s amount has been paid. If that is correct then that means 3/4 remains unpaid. I certainly don't agree that fans don't have a right to know, if I'm investing my hard earned regularly I want to know that what I'm investing in has a business plan in place that ensures creditors bills are being paid and not mounting up to a point where administration becomes inevitable. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

8:36am Mon 18 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

the wizard wrote:
OTR, I think you are seeing it as it is, especially the concerns around cards and discipline. Its not bad stuff, like vicious tackles and sloppy stuff but a card is a card and they all add up. I think it's part of the learning curve, but it is and will cost us. I don't see any options though with such a small squad. I think survival is key on the financial front this season and the rumours are starting again, by probably the same doom mongers as before, and I don't go along all the rubbish about no smoke without fire, because court actions would have been under way by now if matters are as bad as some love to peddle. An interesting quote from Van Gaul yesterday when he said the players he wanted were just not available to strengthen his defense, so the cascade downwards didn't happen as much this summer as before in defenders that we wanted maybe and Cooper alluded to that when asked recently. I can't see us going the whole hog without more bodies and I suspect that there is no panic as promises have been made. We'll just have to do what we always do, wait and see. We have a lot of practice at that.
Wiz, you may be right about there not being many players surplus to requirements in the higher divisions but why does that have to be our only source of signings? What about good solid lower division pros or players making their way up towards our level?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: OTR, I think you are seeing it as it is, especially the concerns around cards and discipline. Its not bad stuff, like vicious tackles and sloppy stuff but a card is a card and they all add up. I think it's part of the learning curve, but it is and will cost us. I don't see any options though with such a small squad. I think survival is key on the financial front this season and the rumours are starting again, by probably the same doom mongers as before, and I don't go along all the rubbish about no smoke without fire, because court actions would have been under way by now if matters are as bad as some love to peddle. An interesting quote from Van Gaul yesterday when he said the players he wanted were just not available to strengthen his defense, so the cascade downwards didn't happen as much this summer as before in defenders that we wanted maybe and Cooper alluded to that when asked recently. I can't see us going the whole hog without more bodies and I suspect that there is no panic as promises have been made. We'll just have to do what we always do, wait and see. We have a lot of practice at that.[/p][/quote]Wiz, you may be right about there not being many players surplus to requirements in the higher divisions but why does that have to be our only source of signings? What about good solid lower division pros or players making their way up towards our level? Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Mon 18 Aug 14

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k.

I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out.
Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right?
And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding?
Ok, that's fine with me, I only have time to read the Footie bit of The Adver and stand corrected, but I think even you know what I was getting at, some come here to peddle doom'n'gloom and to be very honest, I wasn't sure who had said what of late. I think there is more to this than what meets the eye.

I think Umpcah may also have a point, which is why an amount is still out standing, as well. These things as you know are rarely clear cut, and fair play to the club if they are disputing a bill, even if it is from the Old Bill. Obviously after such an elapsed time if the amount wasn't under dispute there would have been proceedings issued.

Den, yes that is a very valid point, but I can't help thinking back to what was said quite a while ago about our guys waiting for certain players being released for loan.

I cannot see Power letting his investment fail especially after the Jed Gate court case. We were lucky with the Spurs guys last season and I'm sure Spurs with or without their ex manager are not the only club along with Soton that we are talking to. Funny though how we have the same problems as last season, but it's early days yet.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard I suggest you check out the article in the news feed "Swindon Town pays part of Police debt". This is a follow up article to the story that broke about a week ago suggesting the club owed Plod around £30k. I was told weeks ago that the bill was £20k and posted accordingly naming my source as a local online media one but not the Adver so hardly your "can't reveal your sources jobbie" eh? The source focusus on "all things connected with Swindon" so you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out. Steve I'm happy to accept your apology for the fact that my information was basically correct with only the actual amount subject to conjecture but I'd think you'd find it difficult to accept that I wasn't right? And you're an intelligent guy, don't you even wearing your rose tinted, just perhaps think that this might not be the only bill outstanding?[/p][/quote]Ok, that's fine with me, I only have time to read the Footie bit of The Adver and stand corrected, but I think even you know what I was getting at, some come here to peddle doom'n'gloom and to be very honest, I wasn't sure who had said what of late. I think there is more to this than what meets the eye. I think Umpcah may also have a point, which is why an amount is still out standing, as well. These things as you know are rarely clear cut, and fair play to the club if they are disputing a bill, even if it is from the Old Bill. Obviously after such an elapsed time if the amount wasn't under dispute there would have been proceedings issued. Den, yes that is a very valid point, but I can't help thinking back to what was said quite a while ago about our guys waiting for certain players being released for loan. I cannot see Power letting his investment fail especially after the Jed Gate court case. We were lucky with the Spurs guys last season and I'm sure Spurs with or without their ex manager are not the only club along with Soton that we are talking to. Funny though how we have the same problems as last season, but it's early days yet. the wizard
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