Boardroom battle rumbles on at the County Ground

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Current Swindon Town chairman Lee Power Current Swindon Town chairman Lee Power

THE boardroom rumblings at Swindon Town continued yesterday, as members of Seebeck 87 Ltd spent much of the day in meetings inside the County Ground.

The holding company which acquired Andrew Black’s controlling stake in the Robins in January 2013 claims it still owns the football club, despite the publicising of a takeover by chairman Lee Power’s Swinton Reds 20 Ltd back in December, and the High Court will decide on April 29 whether to give the green light to Seebeck’s intentions to install three new directors onto the Town board.

Until that point, those three individuals - Adam Fynn, David Smith and Debbie Priestnall - have been given clearance to be what Swinton Reds are terming ‘observer directors’, with no mandate to vote on resolutions.

Seebeck do not accept that terminology, however, and in a statement released on Friday they suggested that the trio had given an undertaking not to enact any resolutions until the case is heard at the end of the month.

One of the three, David Smith, was seen by the Advertiser at the County Ground yesterday. A chartered accountant, Smith arrived alongside Seebeck board member Steve Murrall, Martin King and a fourth man - believed to be Seebeck’s legal counsel.

The quartet entered the ground at 11.10am. Around an hour later, Murrall and King exited the ground alongside the fourth individual, who was seen to make two phone calls before re-entering.

Murrall and King left the stadium but Smith and the fourth man remained for most of the afternoon. The three other members of the Seebeck board - Fynn, Priestnall and Jed McCrory - were not in attendance, while the Advertiser understands neither of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd’s two existing directors - Power and Sangita Shah - were present.

Swinton Reds failed in an attempt to obtain an injunction preventing Seebeck from placing three new faces on the club’s board at a court hearing in London last week, with the case adjourned to April 29.

Fynn, Smith and Priestnall then arrived at the County Ground alongside Murrall and King on Thursday but were denied access to the club’s meeting rooms for several hours before being asked to leave the premises at 5pm.

In their statement, released on Friday, Seebeck suggested Swinton Reds had “obstructed the intention of the court.”

Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory.

Since then, according to the statement released by Swinton Reds on Friday, the club has pursued legal action against McCrory, who has not been present at any of the recent meetings at the County Ground.

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6:11am Wed 23 Apr 14

Fernham Red says...

If life were simple we'd all be lounging under a straw sunshade drinking cocktails. I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of the magnificent seven mentioned above but hope they have enough decency between them to ensure we have a club left to support once all the cards have been played.

Full plaudits to Mr. Cooper and his team for performing against all odds this season.
If life were simple we'd all be lounging under a straw sunshade drinking cocktails. I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of the magnificent seven mentioned above but hope they have enough decency between them to ensure we have a club left to support once all the cards have been played. Full plaudits to Mr. Cooper and his team for performing against all odds this season. Fernham Red
  • Score: 37

6:15am Wed 23 Apr 14

Fernham Red says...

Sam, just wondering...........
..did you have to sit in a car with tinted windows in the county ground car park.....sit on a bench holding a newspaper with a spy hole........... or just use a long focus lens out of your Nan's bedroom window to bring us this information. Whatever the case: a great example of investigative journalism. Thank you.
Sam, just wondering........... ..did you have to sit in a car with tinted windows in the county ground car park.....sit on a bench holding a newspaper with a spy hole........... or just use a long focus lens out of your Nan's bedroom window to bring us this information. Whatever the case: a great example of investigative journalism. Thank you. Fernham Red
  • Score: 11

7:08am Wed 23 Apr 14

the wizard says...

If Lee Power hasn't bought the controlling amount of shares why has Jed waited until now ? Obviously there is now money in the bank from season ticket sales, but what other reason could he have ?

Since Power came in his has for the better part been open and positive and somehow I feel things are better run, especially on the team front. Murrall said when he left his job was done, and was all smiles, and then said afterwards that he was in not so many words, ousted. .

It would be interesting to know what he and Jed have been up to since they left, and if things have gone well for them or not, or have they got greedy and are back for another session at dragging money out of the club. It all seems very suspicious to suddenly re appear in the manner which they have and suddenly appoint three new directors therefore having the ability to out vote LP, and more to the point, on whose side of the fence does Shah sit. never did see those accounts did we, where are they, Luton ?
If Lee Power hasn't bought the controlling amount of shares why has Jed waited until now ? Obviously there is now money in the bank from season ticket sales, but what other reason could he have ? Since Power came in his has for the better part been open and positive and somehow I feel things are better run, especially on the team front. Murrall said when he left his job was done, and was all smiles, and then said afterwards that he was in not so many words, ousted. . It would be interesting to know what he and Jed have been up to since they left, and if things have gone well for them or not, or have they got greedy and are back for another session at dragging money out of the club. It all seems very suspicious to suddenly re appear in the manner which they have and suddenly appoint three new directors therefore having the ability to out vote LP, and more to the point, on whose side of the fence does Shah sit. never did see those accounts did we, where are they, Luton ? the wizard
  • Score: 10

7:09am Wed 23 Apr 14

Haydonender says...

Although the activity around the county ground is interesting it doesn't really tell us anything. I can't believe with Jed's big mouth that he wouldn't be telling all and sundry what his intentions are and why he believes he is still the owner, even if it is 'off the record' for legal reasons so the Adver can do an 'the advertiser understands ......' or 'adver sources say' story.

Failing that, does anyone follow him on twitter? I'm not a member but used to read his tweets occasionally but they are now blocked to anyone that doesn't follow him. He never could resist commenting on there.
Although the activity around the county ground is interesting it doesn't really tell us anything. I can't believe with Jed's big mouth that he wouldn't be telling all and sundry what his intentions are and why he believes he is still the owner, even if it is 'off the record' for legal reasons so the Adver can do an 'the advertiser understands ......' or 'adver sources say' story. Failing that, does anyone follow him on twitter? I'm not a member but used to read his tweets occasionally but they are now blocked to anyone that doesn't follow him. He never could resist commenting on there. Haydonender
  • Score: 3

7:15am Wed 23 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Who cares???????
Who cares??????? smirg kcab
  • Score: -36

7:21am Wed 23 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Jed wants Harry agombers sister to play along side ranger
Jed wants Harry agombers sister to play along side ranger smirg kcab
  • Score: -14

7:30am Wed 23 Apr 14

Since 1950 says...

If Jed and his cronies believe they still own the club why did they relinquish control half way through the season without going to the courts then? Are they just back for a meal ticket?
Never trusted them for one second in the first place as I have said before. If I had known they'd be back sniffing around the season ticket money I for one wouldn't have renewed. They're like a bunch of dodgy second hand car dealers all of them and the sooner they're showed the door of the CG the better I'll like it! Offski!
If Jed and his cronies believe they still own the club why did they relinquish control half way through the season without going to the courts then? Are they just back for a meal ticket? Never trusted them for one second in the first place as I have said before. If I had known they'd be back sniffing around the season ticket money I for one wouldn't have renewed. They're like a bunch of dodgy second hand car dealers all of them and the sooner they're showed the door of the CG the better I'll like it! Offski! Since 1950
  • Score: 21

7:32am Wed 23 Apr 14

Since 1950 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club! Since 1950
  • Score: 30

7:42am Wed 23 Apr 14

avo says...

They handed over control when there was no money left to inject into the club to ensure it's continued existence, that money came in the form of LP, now that the season is almost done, and season ticket sales have occurred, they're back to try and dip their lollipops into the sherbert again.
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I feel very sorry for Mr Power.
They handed over control when there was no money left to inject into the club to ensure it's continued existence, that money came in the form of LP, now that the season is almost done, and season ticket sales have occurred, they're back to try and dip their lollipops into the sherbert again. . I feel very sorry for Mr Power. avo
  • Score: 22

7:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

Helpme234 says...

Surely something as fundamental as who actually owns the club should be beyond dispute?
Surely something as fundamental as who actually owns the club should be beyond dispute? Helpme234
  • Score: 18

8:12am Wed 23 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Coops hasn`t had a bad first season and if he receives a decent job offer from another club I reckon he`ll get himself out of the SN1 mess - I mean C.G. shambles !
Coops hasn`t had a bad first season and if he receives a decent job offer from another club I reckon he`ll get himself out of the SN1 mess - I mean C.G. shambles ! umpcah
  • Score: 3

8:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

Rgbargee says...

Could this be the problem? "Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory."
Perhaps the share transfer was/is in dispute? Perhaps Jed still holds the shares?
Nasty situation regardless .
Could this be the problem? "Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory." Perhaps the share transfer was/is in dispute? Perhaps Jed still holds the shares? Nasty situation regardless . Rgbargee
  • Score: 5

8:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

old town robin says...

i wish we new why Lee is taking legal action against McCrory, it might explain why they people have turned up and think they can take their place on the board even though none of them have been approved by the football league and none of them have outlined why they are seeking a place on the board. Their intentions could be honourable, but I somehow doubt if any good will come out of them getting their foot in the door
i wish we new why Lee is taking legal action against McCrory, it might explain why they people have turned up and think they can take their place on the board even though none of them have been approved by the football league and none of them have outlined why they are seeking a place on the board. Their intentions could be honourable, but I somehow doubt if any good will come out of them getting their foot in the door old town robin
  • Score: 9

8:52am Wed 23 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Sounds like a script from Monty Python's Flying Circus! there all a bunch of Clowns and Wannabe's, without any cash to put there money where mouths are! be nice to get shot of the lot of them and get some true Town Fans running our club, instead of this lot of Clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sounds like a script from Monty Python's Flying Circus! there all a bunch of Clowns and Wannabe's, without any cash to put there money where mouths are! be nice to get shot of the lot of them and get some true Town Fans running our club, instead of this lot of Clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! the don69
  • Score: 25

8:52am Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

umpcah wrote:
Coops hasn`t had a bad first season and if he receives a decent job offer from another club I reckon he`ll get himself out of the SN1 mess - I mean C.G. shambles !
Good point. It might depend on how the boardroom shenanigans shape up. If Transparent Jed and his motley crew get back in, we might as well all call it a day. Like 1950, I'm not renewing my season ticket until we have some idea where this is going. By the way, is Ms Shah trying to outdo McCrory? He might be transparent, she seems to have executed the amazing trick of making herself invisible.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: Coops hasn`t had a bad first season and if he receives a decent job offer from another club I reckon he`ll get himself out of the SN1 mess - I mean C.G. shambles ![/p][/quote]Good point. It might depend on how the boardroom shenanigans shape up. If Transparent Jed and his motley crew get back in, we might as well all call it a day. Like 1950, I'm not renewing my season ticket until we have some idea where this is going. By the way, is Ms Shah trying to outdo McCrory? He might be transparent, she seems to have executed the amazing trick of making herself invisible. Oi Den!
  • Score: 10

9:02am Wed 23 Apr 14

Brainy_G93 says...

These four Jed cronies....who was their meeting with?
These four Jed cronies....who was their meeting with? Brainy_G93
  • Score: 5

9:04am Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
i wish we new why Lee is taking legal action against McCrory, it might explain why they people have turned up and think they can take their place on the board even though none of them have been approved by the football league and none of them have outlined why they are seeking a place on the board. Their intentions could be honourable, but I somehow doubt if any good will come out of them getting their foot in the door
OTR, maybe the legal action is connected to the reason Power sacked McCrory in the first place. I wonder if fredi is still in the know and can enlighten us? No doubt he'd be met with ridicule from a large number of sceptics but I have no doubt he knew exactly what was going on at the club.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: i wish we new why Lee is taking legal action against McCrory, it might explain why they people have turned up and think they can take their place on the board even though none of them have been approved by the football league and none of them have outlined why they are seeking a place on the board. Their intentions could be honourable, but I somehow doubt if any good will come out of them getting their foot in the door[/p][/quote]OTR, maybe the legal action is connected to the reason Power sacked McCrory in the first place. I wonder if fredi is still in the know and can enlighten us? No doubt he'd be met with ridicule from a large number of sceptics but I have no doubt he knew exactly what was going on at the club. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

9:05am Wed 23 Apr 14

uruguay whitey the red says...

The silence is always deafening with regard to feedback from `our boardroom`.We now have to wait until the 29th because we know the fans will be kept in the dark until then.Absolute amateur bunglers out to make a tidy profit!!
The silence is always deafening with regard to feedback from `our boardroom`.We now have to wait until the 29th because we know the fans will be kept in the dark until then.Absolute amateur bunglers out to make a tidy profit!! uruguay whitey the red
  • Score: 1

9:16am Wed 23 Apr 14

Rgbargee says...

"Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory."

Is this the problem?

The shares may not have been transferred ?
"Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory." Is this the problem? The shares may not have been transferred ? Rgbargee
  • Score: 1

9:23am Wed 23 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Rgbargee wrote:
"Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory."

Is this the problem?

The shares may not have been transferred ?
I'll bet Jed wants more than what they are really worth, and that worth has increased as our league position etc has improved.
[quote][p][bold]Rgbargee[/bold] wrote: "Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory." Is this the problem? The shares may not have been transferred ?[/p][/quote]I'll bet Jed wants more than what they are really worth, and that worth has increased as our league position etc has improved. the wizard
  • Score: 0

9:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

the don69 says...

the wizard wrote:
Rgbargee wrote:
"Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory."

Is this the problem?

The shares may not have been transferred ?
I'll bet Jed wants more than what they are really worth, and that worth has increased as our league position etc has improved.
Maybe Power ain't got enough dosh to buy Jedi boys shares Wiz? maybe the said option date to buy has passed without Power stumping up the readies? none of this lot has got any financial clout chaps! there just chancers and Wannabes!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rgbargee[/bold] wrote: "Back in December, Power said he had exercised an option which allowed him to take the majority shareholding of the club from Jed McCrory." Is this the problem? The shares may not have been transferred ?[/p][/quote]I'll bet Jed wants more than what they are really worth, and that worth has increased as our league position etc has improved.[/p][/quote]Maybe Power ain't got enough dosh to buy Jedi boys shares Wiz? maybe the said option date to buy has passed without Power stumping up the readies? none of this lot has got any financial clout chaps! there just chancers and Wannabes!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 6

9:43am Wed 23 Apr 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Can't bear the thought of Jed returning and all his bluff/smokescreens. He obviously thinks there are more pies to be eaten now that Power is running the club in a viable fashion. One thing we can be certain of is that this gang trying to muscle in do not have the best interests of our club at heart. Very worrying times once more.
Can't bear the thought of Jed returning and all his bluff/smokescreens. He obviously thinks there are more pies to be eaten now that Power is running the club in a viable fashion. One thing we can be certain of is that this gang trying to muscle in do not have the best interests of our club at heart. Very worrying times once more. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 11

9:45am Wed 23 Apr 14

buckobassettboy says...

This pile of manure has got an evil stench now.As i have said before-and will keep on reminding those that continue to bury their heads-the place is rotten to the core.They are playing out there little game-power.mcrory,sh
ah,murral-and anybody else who runs with these people-and have no interest in what goes on at pitch level.I am now even more convinced in my belief that PDC 'S advisers undertook due diligence and took a big sideways step to the exit door.They got him out-why would anyone walk away from a job after promotion and close to a back to back promotion in you first 2 years as a rookie manager?Macdonald was just a willing scapegoat-sit there,take the money and keep your mouth shut Has he returned to management since?.Cooper is much out of the same mould.His position will soon be untenable-no mistake.
This pile of manure has got an evil stench now.As i have said before-and will keep on reminding those that continue to bury their heads-the place is rotten to the core.They are playing out there little game-power.mcrory,sh ah,murral-and anybody else who runs with these people-and have no interest in what goes on at pitch level.I am now even more convinced in my belief that PDC 'S advisers undertook due diligence and took a big sideways step to the exit door.They got him out-why would anyone walk away from a job after promotion and close to a back to back promotion in you first 2 years as a rookie manager?Macdonald was just a willing scapegoat-sit there,take the money and keep your mouth shut Has he returned to management since?.Cooper is much out of the same mould.His position will soon be untenable-no mistake. buckobassettboy
  • Score: 1

9:55am Wed 23 Apr 14

LeGod says...

The fans need to make their feelings known about Jed and his fellow money grabbing mates who's only intention is to milk this club and run it into the ground.
Power needs to be at the helm of this club and like many I see Jed and co coming in to take the season ticket money and sell players to line their pockets.
Why every bloody year do we have to go through some saga in the boardroom.
We are going to be shafted big time by Jed and I hope power has all the cards to play to finally get rid of this slimy crook Jed.
The fans need to make their feelings known about Jed and his fellow money grabbing mates who's only intention is to milk this club and run it into the ground. Power needs to be at the helm of this club and like many I see Jed and co coming in to take the season ticket money and sell players to line their pockets. Why every bloody year do we have to go through some saga in the boardroom. We are going to be shafted big time by Jed and I hope power has all the cards to play to finally get rid of this slimy crook Jed. LeGod
  • Score: 17

10:01am Wed 23 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on.
Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true.
At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g.
Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday,
We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night.
Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club![/p][/quote]Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on. Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true. At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g. Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday, We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night. Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse smirg kcab
  • Score: -31

10:07am Wed 23 Apr 14

the wizard says...

LeGod wrote:
The fans need to make their feelings known about Jed and his fellow money grabbing mates who's only intention is to milk this club and run it into the ground.
Power needs to be at the helm of this club and like many I see Jed and co coming in to take the season ticket money and sell players to line their pockets.
Why every bloody year do we have to go through some saga in the boardroom.
We are going to be shafted big time by Jed and I hope power has all the cards to play to finally get rid of this slimy crook Jed.
Well, my missus, who doesn't even like football asked the question a couple of days back, "What happened to that nice Mr Watkins" . What I'd give to have him back. He may not have been every bodies cup of tea, but honesty was never an issue. Anyone know what he is doing these days ?
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: The fans need to make their feelings known about Jed and his fellow money grabbing mates who's only intention is to milk this club and run it into the ground. Power needs to be at the helm of this club and like many I see Jed and co coming in to take the season ticket money and sell players to line their pockets. Why every bloody year do we have to go through some saga in the boardroom. We are going to be shafted big time by Jed and I hope power has all the cards to play to finally get rid of this slimy crook Jed.[/p][/quote]Well, my missus, who doesn't even like football asked the question a couple of days back, "What happened to that nice Mr Watkins" . What I'd give to have him back. He may not have been every bodies cup of tea, but honesty was never an issue. Anyone know what he is doing these days ? the wizard
  • Score: 0

10:08am Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Bucko, I fear you may be right on much of that. Do you remember PDC saying he was "more than happy" with the then prospective new owners? That was after they had made their funding promises and before it was all exposed as complete bullshiitt. As soon as he found out their pot was empty, he decided to go. In the end, he played right into their hands by quitting. It was exactly what they wanted.
Bucko, I fear you may be right on much of that. Do you remember PDC saying he was "more than happy" with the then prospective new owners? That was after they had made their funding promises and before it was all exposed as complete bullshiitt. As soon as he found out their pot was empty, he decided to go. In the end, he played right into their hands by quitting. It was exactly what they wanted. Oi Den!
  • Score: 6

10:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

london paolo says...

Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months.

Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway?

So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands.

It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing.

However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.
Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months. Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway? So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands. It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing. However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man. london paolo
  • Score: 11

10:57am Wed 23 Apr 14

Blazing Riff says...

Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
Plus a few thousand more who, like myself, can only get to the odd game or two for a whole host of reasons. We are all Swindon supporters through and through and presumably, like myself, are totally cheesed off with the shenanagins that continuously blight the ownership/management of our beloved club.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club![/p][/quote]Plus a few thousand more who, like myself, can only get to the odd game or two for a whole host of reasons. We are all Swindon supporters through and through and presumably, like myself, are totally cheesed off with the shenanagins that continuously blight the ownership/management of our beloved club. Blazing Riff
  • Score: 5

10:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

6degreessouth says...

Keep your chin up Mr. Power. I believe 99.9% of the fans are behind you in full support.

P1ss off Jed.
Keep your chin up Mr. Power. I believe 99.9% of the fans are behind you in full support. P1ss off Jed. 6degreessouth
  • Score: 13

10:58am Wed 23 Apr 14

Billy hunt 65 says...

Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon Billy hunt 65
  • Score: -11

11:06am Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

london paolo wrote:
Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months.

Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway?

So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands.

It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing.

However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.
I think you might have hit the nail on the head here. Power only bought a controlling interest in the club, meaning that McCrory effectively still owns upto 49% of the shares and therefore has every right to put his members on the board, including himself. They cant out vote Power, they only have up to a 49% block vote, however many directors are put in place, so have no controlling interests but he is still entitled to to his share if the club is sold on or any other dividends that are paid out. (maybe even cuts from players transfers).

McCrory is banned from the County Ground at the moment, so probably why he's not been seen, but I should imagine his point is, either buy out the rest of my shares or I'm going to have my say on what is happening at the club. Could get very messy.
[quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months. Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway? So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands. It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing. However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.[/p][/quote]I think you might have hit the nail on the head here. Power only bought a controlling interest in the club, meaning that McCrory effectively still owns upto 49% of the shares and therefore has every right to put his members on the board, including himself. They cant out vote Power, they only have up to a 49% block vote, however many directors are put in place, so have no controlling interests but he is still entitled to to his share if the club is sold on or any other dividends that are paid out. (maybe even cuts from players transfers). McCrory is banned from the County Ground at the moment, so probably why he's not been seen, but I should imagine his point is, either buy out the rest of my shares or I'm going to have my say on what is happening at the club. Could get very messy. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 3

11:09am Wed 23 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

In theory the ownership should be a clear cut issue but seems not to be. There needs to be a decision and some answers pronto, or at least to have this sorted in the close season. Worrying.
In theory the ownership should be a clear cut issue but seems not to be. There needs to be a decision and some answers pronto, or at least to have this sorted in the close season. Worrying. Swindon1984
  • Score: 1

11:12am Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
[quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 5

11:13am Wed 23 Apr 14

Wilesy says...

london paolo wrote:
Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months.

Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway?

So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands.

It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing.

However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.
Good post lp, agree with your final statement completely. I'm highly sceptical.

But why appoint 3 new directors, they already have 2 (Jed and Murrall) so only need one more to out vote Power and Shah?

The reappearance has to be down to money? Presumably 'Seebeck 87' and their revolving door of directors feel they are owed money somehow so are trying to musle back in to collect. And to be fair I have no confidence whatsoever that they (and probably others) aren't owed money by 'Swinton 20'.

Why is Murrall back? Is he owed money? I thought he left under Jed's watch to pursue other business interests, but didn't he later claim to have been basically sacked? And why is Martin King around?

Don't like the sound of any of this. Hopefully administration won't be the ultimate outcome.
[quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months. Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway? So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands. It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing. However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.[/p][/quote]Good post lp, agree with your final statement completely. I'm highly sceptical. But why appoint 3 new directors, they already have 2 (Jed and Murrall) so only need one more to out vote Power and Shah? The reappearance has to be down to money? Presumably 'Seebeck 87' and their revolving door of directors feel they are owed money somehow so are trying to musle back in to collect. And to be fair I have no confidence whatsoever that they (and probably others) aren't owed money by 'Swinton 20'. Why is Murrall back? Is he owed money? I thought he left under Jed's watch to pursue other business interests, but didn't he later claim to have been basically sacked? And why is Martin King around? Don't like the sound of any of this. Hopefully administration won't be the ultimate outcome. Wilesy
  • Score: 0

11:25am Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Wilesy wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months.

Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway?

So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands.

It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing.

However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.
Good post lp, agree with your final statement completely. I'm highly sceptical.

But why appoint 3 new directors, they already have 2 (Jed and Murrall) so only need one more to out vote Power and Shah?

The reappearance has to be down to money? Presumably 'Seebeck 87' and their revolving door of directors feel they are owed money somehow so are trying to musle back in to collect. And to be fair I have no confidence whatsoever that they (and probably others) aren't owed money by 'Swinton 20'.

Why is Murrall back? Is he owed money? I thought he left under Jed's watch to pursue other business interests, but didn't he later claim to have been basically sacked? And why is Martin King around?

Don't like the sound of any of this. Hopefully administration won't be the ultimate outcome.
However many directors Jed puts on board they are not able to outvote Power, he has a controlling interest.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Different issues going on here. Either Power owns a controlling 60% interest, or he doesn't. You would have thought that would be straightforward to establish legally, but it's difficult to believe anything coming out of the boardroom the past 18 months. Jedda still owns 40%. And a shareholder with 40% has every right to appoint directors to the board. It depends on what the Articles of Association say, but there is no legal maximum number of directors that a private limited company can have. However at board meetings it's one man (or woman), one vote. So it seems calculated that they are appointing three directors to outnumber Power, as the company currently only has two. One of these is Shah, whose appointment seemed merely to puff up the PR around Jedda (a thankless task). Is she loyal to Power? Or Jed? What is she doing here anyway? So one implication would be that Power would be out-voted at board meetings and would have to find and appoint other directors so he had a majority of heads in the boardroom. Will become unwieldy, expensive and difficult to reach decisions, with many resolutions being deferred to the annual AGM where votes go on shareholding, not on a show of hands. It would be difficult for a cohort of directors acting together to siphon off funds from the club, as Power would still be there to block it - or blow the whistle. One reason the Luton con men wanted complete control of Cheltenham, and then at Swindon, with no supporter representation on the board, is they didn't want anyone else privy to what they were doing. However it unravels it cannot be good for the club - not that I trust any of them anyway although at least Power is a football man.[/p][/quote]Good post lp, agree with your final statement completely. I'm highly sceptical. But why appoint 3 new directors, they already have 2 (Jed and Murrall) so only need one more to out vote Power and Shah? The reappearance has to be down to money? Presumably 'Seebeck 87' and their revolving door of directors feel they are owed money somehow so are trying to musle back in to collect. And to be fair I have no confidence whatsoever that they (and probably others) aren't owed money by 'Swinton 20'. Why is Murrall back? Is he owed money? I thought he left under Jed's watch to pursue other business interests, but didn't he later claim to have been basically sacked? And why is Martin King around? Don't like the sound of any of this. Hopefully administration won't be the ultimate outcome.[/p][/quote]However many directors Jed puts on board they are not able to outvote Power, he has a controlling interest. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

11:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

GiulianoGrazioli says...

there was claims in the past from Jed on twitter that he was taking time out with stress and always talking about for the good of STFC... of course we don't know the full story and probably wont... lets just hope we have a football club to watch and support - it's been a great season considering where people thought we would finish...last 3 seasons we've done well - there is no denying that, build on what we have and hopefully we can be a strong force again next year - positivity is key
there was claims in the past from Jed on twitter that he was taking time out with stress and always talking about for the good of STFC... of course we don't know the full story and probably wont... lets just hope we have a football club to watch and support - it's been a great season considering where people thought we would finish...last 3 seasons we've done well - there is no denying that, build on what we have and hopefully we can be a strong force again next year - positivity is key GiulianoGrazioli
  • Score: 5

11:57am Wed 23 Apr 14

Since 1950 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on.
Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true.
At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g.
Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday,
We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night.
Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse
But we do care Grim!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club![/p][/quote]Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on. Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true. At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g. Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday, We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night. Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse[/p][/quote]But we do care Grim! Since 1950
  • Score: 2

12:52pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again. Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

1:05pm Wed 23 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.[/p][/quote]So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

1:09pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on. Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true. At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g. Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday, We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night. Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse
But we do care Grim!
Indeed. Also whether our say makes any difference is neither here nor there, it's still a matter of interest. Not sure having just over 8000 for Bradford was a "disgrace" either. We've averaged around that figure for a fair few years now, and only get bigger if it's a derby or we sell a significant away allocation (which is rare enough).

We're averaging 8100 per game this season, marginally behind Rotherham and MK Dons, and putting us at eighth in overall attendance in the league. Probably about right. Look at Peterborough - top six, just down from the championship, expensive squad, similar sized ground to ours - average around 2000 less through the gate each week than we do. For the size of our club, we do alright.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club![/p][/quote]Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on. Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true. At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g. Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday, We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night. Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse[/p][/quote]But we do care Grim![/p][/quote]Indeed. Also whether our say makes any difference is neither here nor there, it's still a matter of interest. Not sure having just over 8000 for Bradford was a "disgrace" either. We've averaged around that figure for a fair few years now, and only get bigger if it's a derby or we sell a significant away allocation (which is rare enough). We're averaging 8100 per game this season, marginally behind Rotherham and MK Dons, and putting us at eighth in overall attendance in the league. Probably about right. Look at Peterborough - top six, just down from the championship, expensive squad, similar sized ground to ours - average around 2000 less through the gate each week than we do. For the size of our club, we do alright. Swindon1984
  • Score: 8

1:20pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

the don69 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.[/p][/quote]So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

1:25pm Wed 23 Apr 14

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Grim we care a lot. Let's be honest most of us with half a brain don't fully trust any of them including Power (with his previous). Bit like voting for members of parliament, never voted in my life for the one I most like, more the one I least hate! On the same basis Power would seem the best of a bad a bunch as he clearly knows what he's doing on the football pitch. If he can run us properly and negotiate with players we have a genuine chance.

That said none of us know what's going on as aren't privy tot he shareholding agreement and it's all pure speculation.

Who ever said bring back Mr Watkins or Mr Wray - nice they may have been but look where it got us.... In this fine mess....

I joked pre season that my season ticket was a risky business as wasn't sure we'd see the season out without going into administration. Just hope that joke doesn't come back to haunt me.
Grim we care a lot. Let's be honest most of us with half a brain don't fully trust any of them including Power (with his previous). Bit like voting for members of parliament, never voted in my life for the one I most like, more the one I least hate! On the same basis Power would seem the best of a bad a bunch as he clearly knows what he's doing on the football pitch. If he can run us properly and negotiate with players we have a genuine chance. That said none of us know what's going on as aren't privy tot he shareholding agreement and it's all pure speculation. Who ever said bring back Mr Watkins or Mr Wray - nice they may have been but look where it got us.... In this fine mess.... I joked pre season that my season ticket was a risky business as wasn't sure we'd see the season out without going into administration. Just hope that joke doesn't come back to haunt me. dreamofacleansheet2
  • Score: 1

1:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Bassett Hound says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
You are possibly right Den,but I'm sure I read somewhere that Blacks relationship with Fitton was rock bottom and would only deal with him if there was no other buyer.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.[/p][/quote]You are possibly right Den,but I'm sure I read somewhere that Blacks relationship with Fitton was rock bottom and would only deal with him if there was no other buyer. Bassett Hound
  • Score: -1

2:11pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off.
Why would the wage bill have put potential investors off when they would be getting the club for nothing? If you acquire a football club, you expect it to be at some cost - unless you are taking on a lot of debt. McCrory paid nothing for a club with no debt. The wage bill wasn't going to be there for ever. Contracts were of varying length, some finishing sooner than others, and players do move on before their contracts are up. We ended up with owners who paid nothing and tried to wheedle their way out of whatever contractual obligations they could. From day one there was something very smelly about the way they took control of the club.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.[/p][/quote]So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off.[/p][/quote]Why would the wage bill have put potential investors off when they would be getting the club for nothing? If you acquire a football club, you expect it to be at some cost - unless you are taking on a lot of debt. McCrory paid nothing for a club with no debt. The wage bill wasn't going to be there for ever. Contracts were of varying length, some finishing sooner than others, and players do move on before their contracts are up. We ended up with owners who paid nothing and tried to wheedle their way out of whatever contractual obligations they could. From day one there was something very smelly about the way they took control of the club. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

2:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

3:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club.
What a fickle bunch you lot are.
Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory?
What did he do wrong? Power has done no different.
And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it?
All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings?
Probably this is Swindon
I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him.

But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.
I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.
So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off.
Why would the wage bill have put potential investors off when they would be getting the club for nothing? If you acquire a football club, you expect it to be at some cost - unless you are taking on a lot of debt. McCrory paid nothing for a club with no debt. The wage bill wasn't going to be there for ever. Contracts were of varying length, some finishing sooner than others, and players do move on before their contracts are up. We ended up with owners who paid nothing and tried to wheedle their way out of whatever contractual obligations they could. From day one there was something very smelly about the way they took control of the club.
Depends how realistic the wages were, ours were unsustainable. We were losing £500K a month which wasn't ever able to be covered by our income.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Hail Jed .. Must of us loved him when he took control and saved us from admin. And a lot on here couldn't stand the thought of Power running the club. What a fickle bunch you lot are. Are there false claims coming from the cg trying to discredit McCrory? What did he do wrong? Power has done no different. And back for season ticket money? Really surely the 3500 sold isn't worth all this aggro is it? All of us don't know what has been going on since December... Dodgy deings? Probably this is Swindon[/p][/quote]I was one of the few who backed Jed when he took over, and I believe we still owe him a great deal of credit for saving the club. What can be assured is that we would not in the lofty position we are today without him. But in the end it seemed as though Power was bankrolling the club, and I'm more than happy having him now in control, but if McCrory still owns part of the club he has every right to either get involved or be bought out. We've yet to hear is part of the story. What I hope is that they can amicably sort this out and Power can take over the whole club.[/p][/quote]I really cannot believe that McCrory was the only person interested in taking the club over. There is a lot of talk about him being the only one prepared to take the risk of acquiring it without due diligence. But what risk was there? Black was giving the club away and there was never any suggestion of any nasty surprises in the woodwork. The expensive playing deals were well known and in any case it wouldn't have taken long to peruse 20 odd contracts. He got hold of the club because our old friend Patey was taken in, like PDC and many fans, by his grandiose promises. McCrory has done very nicely out of STFC. Fingers crossed that he doesn't get the chance to do it again.[/p][/quote]So your calling Black a liar then Den? that was what Black said, it was Jed's gangs deal or Admin,you can believe what you want! but the fact is Black (who owned the club) said this deal or Admin end of!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Bottom line Den, If McCrory had of not stepped in to take the club over we would have been in administration. Black wanted out quickly, and set a deadline, McCrory was the only person prepared to take a gamble and take over in the time frame set. The wage bill alone would have put most investors off.[/p][/quote]Why would the wage bill have put potential investors off when they would be getting the club for nothing? If you acquire a football club, you expect it to be at some cost - unless you are taking on a lot of debt. McCrory paid nothing for a club with no debt. The wage bill wasn't going to be there for ever. Contracts were of varying length, some finishing sooner than others, and players do move on before their contracts are up. We ended up with owners who paid nothing and tried to wheedle their way out of whatever contractual obligations they could. From day one there was something very smelly about the way they took control of the club.[/p][/quote]Depends how realistic the wages were, ours were unsustainable. We were losing £500K a month which wasn't ever able to be covered by our income. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

3:05pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Wed 23 Apr 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
Come on Den! interest in buying something and actually buying it are two completely different things! I'd be broke if my wife bought everything she was interested in!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]Come on Den! interest in buying something and actually buying it are two completely different things! I'd be broke if my wife bought everything she was interested in!LOL!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 4

4:13pm Wed 23 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club!
Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on.
Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true.
At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g.
Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday,
We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night.
Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse
But we do care Grim!
So do I
Jeds of to Barnsley anyway, once your s/t money evaporates
You heard that from me first, also -30 to start season
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]About 8,000 of us Grim who care about the future of the club![/p][/quote]Yours or my say won't change a thing what's going on. Only a few of us believed fredi, so don't be shocked if we go into admin, as predicted, very sad but true. At. Least 3 more people can watch us, because no one else want to watch a club that's promised ( for years a new ground and funds) so we have to put up watching from the bomb site they call the c/g. Only 1000 odd fans away to Coventry on a bank holiday, We took 700 to Macclesfield when we were 4th from bottom on a Friday night. Only 8000 home fans for a bank holiday disgrace and will only get worse[/p][/quote]But we do care Grim![/p][/quote]So do I Jeds of to Barnsley anyway, once your s/t money evaporates You heard that from me first, also -30 to start season smirg kcab
  • Score: -1

4:16pm Wed 23 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

the don69 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
Come on Den! interest in buying something and actually buying it are two completely different things! I'd be broke if my wife bought everything she was interested in!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Your not broke don because I pay for most of it
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]Come on Den! interest in buying something and actually buying it are two completely different things! I'd be broke if my wife bought everything she was interested in!LOL!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Your not broke don because I pay for most of it smirg kcab
  • Score: 0

4:25pm Wed 23 Apr 14

avo says...

Fact of the matter is, nobody with half a brain would have took over a club like ours without first wanting time to check through the fine detail. Irrespective of whether anything untoward or nasty was suspected as lurcking underneath all the gloss and bo*****s.
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Look who did takeover, I rest my case. Saved us from administration, yes, some choice we were given on that front though eh?
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Black got what he wanted and cared little for the aftermath.
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We got Jed & Co and everything that went thereafter. Shafted again. Off field drama undermining all the good things that were happening on it.
Fact of the matter is, nobody with half a brain would have took over a club like ours without first wanting time to check through the fine detail. Irrespective of whether anything untoward or nasty was suspected as lurcking underneath all the gloss and bo*****s. . Look who did takeover, I rest my case. Saved us from administration, yes, some choice we were given on that front though eh? . Black got what he wanted and cared little for the aftermath. . We got Jed & Co and everything that went thereafter. Shafted again. Off field drama undermining all the good things that were happening on it. avo
  • Score: 0

4:38pm Wed 23 Apr 14

robstfc says...

According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year
According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year robstfc
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Bassett Hound says...

robstfc wrote:
According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year
How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ?
[quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year[/p][/quote]How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ? Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oxon-Red says...

Not getting involved in this debate too deeply as I believe what will be will be and I will have no chance of stopping that.

However, if Power has sued Jed it is likely to involve financial dealings. As one of the three is an accountant he may be looking into the finances to support Jed.

COYMR
Not getting involved in this debate too deeply as I believe what will be will be and I will have no chance of stopping that. However, if Power has sued Jed it is likely to involve financial dealings. As one of the three is an accountant he may be looking into the finances to support Jed. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Wed 23 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Den/Don, I respect both of your view points, but like them or loathe them, we are now stuck with Jedco on the horizon at some point of indulgence in our club, allegedly. The plain fact of the matter seems to be that Lee Power has sunk money in, where as Jed has only seemingly taken money out. It matters not how many suitors the club had courting it in the final Black days we got Jed Macca whether we liked him, suspected him or otherwise, and we have to live with it as there is no way around it.

In my view the only way to take the club forward is to leave Jed behind, and out of the board room. I hope I get my wish because like many others I am fearful of where it will end under his stewardship over the longer term.
Den/Don, I respect both of your view points, but like them or loathe them, we are now stuck with Jedco on the horizon at some point of indulgence in our club, allegedly. The plain fact of the matter seems to be that Lee Power has sunk money in, where as Jed has only seemingly taken money out. It matters not how many suitors the club had courting it in the final Black days we got Jed Macca whether we liked him, suspected him or otherwise, and we have to live with it as there is no way around it. In my view the only way to take the club forward is to leave Jed behind, and out of the board room. I hope I get my wish because like many others I am fearful of where it will end under his stewardship over the longer term. the wizard
  • Score: 1

5:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

picolo.pete says...

I reckon we ought to get a petition going Jed OUT & Stay OUT
POWER to STAY,

Power seem's to have the Heart for the Job certainly stabilising the Club which as to be good & between Power & Cooper we have a very strong group of mainly young players who as with what Mr Cooper said another 3-4 good guys we could push on next year & fight for promotion, we do really need to keep Wes, Troy, Ranger & the Thompson's, Troy & Branco could form a good Central partnership & Ranger, Storry or Smith a good front pairing in midfield we are blessed with a few good lads.
I reckon we ought to get a petition going Jed OUT & Stay OUT POWER to STAY, Power seem's to have the Heart for the Job certainly stabilising the Club which as to be good & between Power & Cooper we have a very strong group of mainly young players who as with what Mr Cooper said another 3-4 good guys we could push on next year & fight for promotion, we do really need to keep Wes, Troy, Ranger & the Thompson's, Troy & Branco could form a good Central partnership & Ranger, Storry or Smith a good front pairing in midfield we are blessed with a few good lads. picolo.pete
  • Score: 5

6:07pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?
For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder.

Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?[/p][/quote]For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder. Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

6:21pm Wed 23 Apr 14

MITTED says...

Like some, I saw through Jed from day one and would not want him or his cronies anywhere near our club again. That said, I am unimpressed with Lee Power who rules by secrecy, which some seem to regard as meaning the club is being well run. And yet he considers it normal business to not pay suppliers and the much trumpeted audit that was promised to be published months ago has conveniently been swept under the carpet. All requests for meetings by the Trust go ignored. What do you have to hide, Mr Chairman? In summary, definite no to Jed but still too many question marks about Lee Power.
I just wish we could have some stability, just for once, please.
Like some, I saw through Jed from day one and would not want him or his cronies anywhere near our club again. That said, I am unimpressed with Lee Power who rules by secrecy, which some seem to regard as meaning the club is being well run. And yet he considers it normal business to not pay suppliers and the much trumpeted audit that was promised to be published months ago has conveniently been swept under the carpet. All requests for meetings by the Trust go ignored. What do you have to hide, Mr Chairman? In summary, definite no to Jed but still too many question marks about Lee Power. I just wish we could have some stability, just for once, please. MITTED
  • Score: 4

6:30pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?
For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder.

Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.
Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?[/p][/quote]For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder. Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.[/p][/quote]Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club. Davidsyrett
  • Score: -1

7:03pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mug? says...

I haven't read all the comments, but as much as I disdain Jed, this seems to be about Murrall rather than Jed.

Murral's posts on the town end forum pretty much show he wasn't happy at all about going, along with his adver interview.

Jed hasn't tweeted anything.

King being involved scares me.

I don't like that the captain of the ship and his assistant are nowhere to be seen, while the club seems to have been boarded by pirates! I hope they don't find the keys to the treasure chest!
I haven't read all the comments, but as much as I disdain Jed, this seems to be about Murrall rather than Jed. Murral's posts on the town end forum pretty much show he wasn't happy at all about going, along with his adver interview. Jed hasn't tweeted anything. King being involved scares me. I don't like that the captain of the ship and his assistant are nowhere to be seen, while the club seems to have been boarded by pirates! I hope they don't find the keys to the treasure chest! mug?
  • Score: 2

7:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

the wizard says...

mug? wrote:
I haven't read all the comments, but as much as I disdain Jed, this seems to be about Murrall rather than Jed.

Murral's posts on the town end forum pretty much show he wasn't happy at all about going, along with his adver interview.

Jed hasn't tweeted anything.

King being involved scares me.

I don't like that the captain of the ship and his assistant are nowhere to be seen, while the club seems to have been boarded by pirates! I hope they don't find the keys to the treasure chest!
Nice one.
[quote][p][bold]mug?[/bold] wrote: I haven't read all the comments, but as much as I disdain Jed, this seems to be about Murrall rather than Jed. Murral's posts on the town end forum pretty much show he wasn't happy at all about going, along with his adver interview. Jed hasn't tweeted anything. King being involved scares me. I don't like that the captain of the ship and his assistant are nowhere to be seen, while the club seems to have been boarded by pirates! I hope they don't find the keys to the treasure chest![/p][/quote]Nice one. the wizard
  • Score: 1

7:44pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Di kanny oh says...

If the circus takes over the club then I shall be cancelling my direct debit pronto as I certainly did not buy into supporting a bunch of crooks and debt ridden nobodies. Lets hope and pray sanity prevails and they fail the prim and proper test. Did hear today that Murrall was well above his station and nasty piece of work when he was at the club and spent money for fun running up bar bills.
If the circus takes over the club then I shall be cancelling my direct debit pronto as I certainly did not buy into supporting a bunch of crooks and debt ridden nobodies. Lets hope and pray sanity prevails and they fail the prim and proper test. Did hear today that Murrall was well above his station and nasty piece of work when he was at the club and spent money for fun running up bar bills. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 3

7:47pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Di kanny oh says...

picolo.pete wrote:
I reckon we ought to get a petition going Jed OUT & Stay OUT
POWER to STAY,

Power seem's to have the Heart for the Job certainly stabilising the Club which as to be good & between Power & Cooper we have a very strong group of mainly young players who as with what Mr Cooper said another 3-4 good guys we could push on next year & fight for promotion, we do really need to keep Wes, Troy, Ranger & the Thompson's, Troy & Branco could form a good Central partnership & Ranger, Storry or Smith a good front pairing in midfield we are blessed with a few good lads.
Absolutely right a fans boycott needed if these crooks come on board.
[quote][p][bold]picolo.pete[/bold] wrote: I reckon we ought to get a petition going Jed OUT & Stay OUT POWER to STAY, Power seem's to have the Heart for the Job certainly stabilising the Club which as to be good & between Power & Cooper we have a very strong group of mainly young players who as with what Mr Cooper said another 3-4 good guys we could push on next year & fight for promotion, we do really need to keep Wes, Troy, Ranger & the Thompson's, Troy & Branco could form a good Central partnership & Ranger, Storry or Smith a good front pairing in midfield we are blessed with a few good lads.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right a fans boycott needed if these crooks come on board. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 2

8:15pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mick the tetburyred says...

The timing of this boardroom war really concerns me.Just when Lee Power was about to sit down and start talking contracts with the players we want to keep at the club the crooks try to muscle their way back in!!.
Lets hope and pray that Lee Power wins this battle because if that other mob get their way our club will have no players other than Banbury United loaneess and will sink without trace !!.It's time for all Town supporters to now stand up and have their say clear and loud,NO MORE MCCRORY !!!.
The timing of this boardroom war really concerns me.Just when Lee Power was about to sit down and start talking contracts with the players we want to keep at the club the crooks try to muscle their way back in!!. Lets hope and pray that Lee Power wins this battle because if that other mob get their way our club will have no players other than Banbury United loaneess and will sink without trace !!.It's time for all Town supporters to now stand up and have their say clear and loud,NO MORE MCCRORY !!!. mick the tetburyred
  • Score: 3

8:16pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?
For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder.

Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.
Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club.
I'm not sure it's ever been said that it came down to him being the only one interested at that point. What I'm saying - and I accept I may be wrong - is that it seems very unlikely nobody else wanted to take a debt-free football club off the hands of very reputable people for £1. We all know how McCrory and his friends operate. They say what they believe people want to hear so that they can gain favour. In view of the fact that they hoodwinked PDC and loads of fans, it seems pretty likely that they could have done the same to Patey, Watkins and, indirectly, Black. Perhaps there were other interested parties who did not promise a large investment in the team and a pot of gold from concerts? If have got that wrong, then I apologise but I think it's an understandable mistake, given the misinformation that flowed frequently from the club as soon as it was taken over last year.

Sorry, I know I've banged on too much about this but I believe these are very worrying developments.

Quick note to mug: McCrory said at one point he is "not allowed" to attend Town matches. Perhaps he is also not allowed at the ground and this is why he's not been involved up to now?
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?[/p][/quote]For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder. Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.[/p][/quote]Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure it's ever been said that it came down to him being the only one interested at that point. What I'm saying - and I accept I may be wrong - is that it seems very unlikely nobody else wanted to take a debt-free football club off the hands of very reputable people for £1. We all know how McCrory and his friends operate. They say what they believe people want to hear so that they can gain favour. In view of the fact that they hoodwinked PDC and loads of fans, it seems pretty likely that they could have done the same to Patey, Watkins and, indirectly, Black. Perhaps there were other interested parties who did not promise a large investment in the team and a pot of gold from concerts? If have got that wrong, then I apologise but I think it's an understandable mistake, given the misinformation that flowed frequently from the club as soon as it was taken over last year. Sorry, I know I've banged on too much about this but I believe these are very worrying developments. Quick note to mug: McCrory said at one point he is "not allowed" to attend Town matches. Perhaps he is also not allowed at the ground and this is why he's not been involved up to now? Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Wed 23 Apr 14

swwindon61uk says...

Obviously this needs to be sorted ASAP.
Obviously this needs to be sorted ASAP. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

London Red says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
robstfc wrote:
According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year
How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ?
I think lots in the game know about others budgets - as these types of quotes are always floating about
.
However - I don't believe for one second we will have the lowest budget - as we often hear about he sub £1m budgets of clubs like Yeovil and Tranmere etc
.
We are meant to be aiming for £1.5m which is nearly double their rumoured budgets of £800k
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year[/p][/quote]How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ?[/p][/quote]I think lots in the game know about others budgets - as these types of quotes are always floating about . However - I don't believe for one second we will have the lowest budget - as we often hear about he sub £1m budgets of clubs like Yeovil and Tranmere etc . We are meant to be aiming for £1.5m which is nearly double their rumoured budgets of £800k London Red
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Bassett Hound says...

London Red wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
robstfc wrote:
According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year
How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ?
I think lots in the game know about others budgets - as these types of quotes are always floating about
.
However - I don't believe for one second we will have the lowest budget - as we often hear about he sub £1m budgets of clubs like Yeovil and Tranmere etc
.
We are meant to be aiming for £1.5m which is nearly double their rumoured budgets of £800k
I can see how this years budgets would be known,but not next years.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: According to an interview I heard with Terry Cooper (Marks dad), we'll have the smallest budget in league 1 next year[/p][/quote]How would anybody know what other clubs budgets will be ?[/p][/quote]I think lots in the game know about others budgets - as these types of quotes are always floating about . However - I don't believe for one second we will have the lowest budget - as we often hear about he sub £1m budgets of clubs like Yeovil and Tranmere etc . We are meant to be aiming for £1.5m which is nearly double their rumoured budgets of £800k[/p][/quote]I can see how this years budgets would be known,but not next years. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

10:00pm Wed 23 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

the don69 wrote:
Sounds like a script from Monty Python's Flying Circus! there all a bunch of Clowns and Wannabe's, without any cash to put there money where mouths are! be nice to get shot of the lot of them and get some true Town Fans running our club, instead of this lot of Clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!
Maybe the Wills family- supported the club for years , and often helped the club out of a financial mess ,don't know about Sir Seton , but I understand the son is not doing to badly , the last I heard - just a thought.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a script from Monty Python's Flying Circus! there all a bunch of Clowns and Wannabe's, without any cash to put there money where mouths are! be nice to get shot of the lot of them and get some true Town Fans running our club, instead of this lot of Clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![/p][/quote]Maybe the Wills family- supported the club for years , and often helped the club out of a financial mess ,don't know about Sir Seton , but I understand the son is not doing to badly , the last I heard - just a thought. lifelong red
  • Score: 3

10:49pm Wed 23 Apr 14

LeGod says...

Smirg kcab - typical ridiculous comments from you when you say who cares.
As fans it would be nice to know the facts of what the bloody hell is going on with this bunch of bandits trying to take over.
I don't know if anyone else has checked these individuals out as I did yesterday and tonight I delved a bit more on one of the others and my word what I have come across worries me greatly.
As the court hearing is next week it is going to be an anxious time waiting knowing if this bunch of money grabbers are going to be involved in our club.
The whole way they are going about it leaves me with a bad taste and if Jed and his crew have any involvement in our club there is absolutely no way I will go to a game with him at the helm and his bunch of merry bandits.
I can't see if power has 51% share they don't have any day anyway as he would be the major shareholder.
There is obviously some very bad blood between them and murrall and Jed are out for revenge.
I am fully behind power and I hope he can resolve this before next week and hope he has a strong case to get rid of Jed and his bunch of bandits once and for all.
Smirg kcab - typical ridiculous comments from you when you say who cares. As fans it would be nice to know the facts of what the bloody hell is going on with this bunch of bandits trying to take over. I don't know if anyone else has checked these individuals out as I did yesterday and tonight I delved a bit more on one of the others and my word what I have come across worries me greatly. As the court hearing is next week it is going to be an anxious time waiting knowing if this bunch of money grabbers are going to be involved in our club. The whole way they are going about it leaves me with a bad taste and if Jed and his crew have any involvement in our club there is absolutely no way I will go to a game with him at the helm and his bunch of merry bandits. I can't see if power has 51% share they don't have any day anyway as he would be the major shareholder. There is obviously some very bad blood between them and murrall and Jed are out for revenge. I am fully behind power and I hope he can resolve this before next week and hope he has a strong case to get rid of Jed and his bunch of bandits once and for all. LeGod
  • Score: 3

11:15pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Just had a look at what Black actually said:

"Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.
So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?
For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder.

Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.
Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club.
I'm not sure it's ever been said that it came down to him being the only one interested at that point. What I'm saying - and I accept I may be wrong - is that it seems very unlikely nobody else wanted to take a debt-free football club off the hands of very reputable people for £1. We all know how McCrory and his friends operate. They say what they believe people want to hear so that they can gain favour. In view of the fact that they hoodwinked PDC and loads of fans, it seems pretty likely that they could have done the same to Patey, Watkins and, indirectly, Black. Perhaps there were other interested parties who did not promise a large investment in the team and a pot of gold from concerts? If have got that wrong, then I apologise but I think it's an understandable mistake, given the misinformation that flowed frequently from the club as soon as it was taken over last year.

Sorry, I know I've banged on too much about this but I believe these are very worrying developments.

Quick note to mug: McCrory said at one point he is "not allowed" to attend Town matches. Perhaps he is also not allowed at the ground and this is why he's not been involved up to now?
Den, we were losing money to the tune of £250K a month, that is not debt free, hence why there was no value in the club and it was only worth a £1. Why did Black want out? because it was debt free?? No because he was fed up with losing money. As I understood it there was no other interested parties prepared to take a gamble, hence McCrory.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Just had a look at what Black actually said: "Anyway as it happened there was interest to buy the club without the need for admin." He didn't say that McCrory's crew were the only ones interested in buying the club without putting it into administration.[/p][/quote]So why did he go for them? Because no-one else was prepared to take over the club in the space of time Black wanted out. Had no-one taken over we would have been in administration that much is certain. Where were all the other offers?[/p][/quote]For a start I doubt if Black was at the sharp end of the negotiating. That's what Patey was brought in to do. Why did he go for them? Probably because he was gullible enough to believe all the stuff about the large playing budget and the riches to be raised by concerts etc. Those of us who suggested it was all bunkum were given short shrift on here. You ask "where were all the other offers?". I think we were told that there were at least 7 interested parties. We haven't been told why they either pulled out or lost out but we do know that weeks before the deal was done, McCrory's group was being described as the preferred bidder. Avo, I think it's unfair to say Black didn't care about the aftermath. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have written off millions of pounds. He handed over a club in good order to people he thought were going to act in its best interests. I don't think he could have done much more than that. If McCrory had turned out to be what he said was, everybody would have been happy and nobody would have been criticising Andrew Black.[/p][/quote]Den, me & you are never going to agree on this. It's all well and good saying 7 interested parties, but it still comes down to the fact that as of 31st January 2013, only McCrory wanted to take over the club.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure it's ever been said that it came down to him being the only one interested at that point. What I'm saying - and I accept I may be wrong - is that it seems very unlikely nobody else wanted to take a debt-free football club off the hands of very reputable people for £1. We all know how McCrory and his friends operate. They say what they believe people want to hear so that they can gain favour. In view of the fact that they hoodwinked PDC and loads of fans, it seems pretty likely that they could have done the same to Patey, Watkins and, indirectly, Black. Perhaps there were other interested parties who did not promise a large investment in the team and a pot of gold from concerts? If have got that wrong, then I apologise but I think it's an understandable mistake, given the misinformation that flowed frequently from the club as soon as it was taken over last year. Sorry, I know I've banged on too much about this but I believe these are very worrying developments. Quick note to mug: McCrory said at one point he is "not allowed" to attend Town matches. Perhaps he is also not allowed at the ground and this is why he's not been involved up to now?[/p][/quote]Den, we were losing money to the tune of £250K a month, that is not debt free, hence why there was no value in the club and it was only worth a £1. Why did Black want out? because it was debt free?? No because he was fed up with losing money. As I understood it there was no other interested parties prepared to take a gamble, hence McCrory. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

5:05am Thu 24 Apr 14

port de soller says...

Just feel has all come at a bad time.do not know what to make of it all never a dull moment at STFC.
Just hope the court sorts it all out.
STFC over the last 45/50 years let´s say has had may problems (financially)
Would be great to get investors interested,yet what does the club offer????? ground is rented off council,just makes me think we had Black and his mega rich Board,so much money was wasted???
As for Jed and his cronies something just does not ring true.
Can see many Fans not attending and what would these new owners have without the STFC Fan??????
So sad to see more problems hitting us If the Court Case goes against Power I dread to think where we will be next season.
It is about time these worms told us the truth
Just feel has all come at a bad time.do not know what to make of it all never a dull moment at STFC. Just hope the court sorts it all out. STFC over the last 45/50 years let´s say has had may problems (financially) Would be great to get investors interested,yet what does the club offer????? ground is rented off council,just makes me think we had Black and his mega rich Board,so much money was wasted??? As for Jed and his cronies something just does not ring true. Can see many Fans not attending and what would these new owners have without the STFC Fan?????? So sad to see more problems hitting us If the Court Case goes against Power I dread to think where we will be next season. It is about time these worms told us the truth port de soller
  • Score: 1

7:46am Thu 24 Apr 14

avo says...

Den, with Black putting the timeframe on the takeover like he did, he effectively eliminated all but the one interested party. That was my point. Some choice to be had. As others stated, whilst handing the club over and effectively writing off millions owed, it was not a debt free purchase.
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Black wanted out, and within his time limits, and for this reason alone, cared little for what was to follow, his only aim being to offload as quickly as possible. There may have been 7 interested parties, but only one willing to take it on under such demands as made by the then owner. Black, either with, or through Patey, knew exactly what he was doing.
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We all know how we felt about what and who followed. Muppets in the extreme. Now it appears they are rearing their ugly heads again. Fantastic.
Den, with Black putting the timeframe on the takeover like he did, he effectively eliminated all but the one interested party. That was my point. Some choice to be had. As others stated, whilst handing the club over and effectively writing off millions owed, it was not a debt free purchase. . Black wanted out, and within his time limits, and for this reason alone, cared little for what was to follow, his only aim being to offload as quickly as possible. There may have been 7 interested parties, but only one willing to take it on under such demands as made by the then owner. Black, either with, or through Patey, knew exactly what he was doing. . We all know how we felt about what and who followed. Muppets in the extreme. Now it appears they are rearing their ugly heads again. Fantastic. avo
  • Score: 2

8:39am Thu 24 Apr 14

Farteaboy says...

Sick to the back teeth with all this. Just wish we could find an owner with a genuine love for our club. Not going to happen I know, but makes me so 'kin angry to see a constant parade of opportunistic shysters sitting in our boardroom.
Sick to the back teeth with all this. Just wish we could find an owner with a genuine love for our club. Not going to happen I know, but makes me so 'kin angry to see a constant parade of opportunistic shysters sitting in our boardroom. Farteaboy
  • Score: 3

8:52am Thu 24 Apr 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

Funny how this all comes at a time when the club have income again, there is so much around what Fredi was saying last year that has never been publicised, my understanding was that the adver and trust were given evidence of payments to consultancy firms and all sorts of other mysterious goings on but decided to work with the board who did want what was best for the club.

Murrell and Jed (I quite liked Jed) outlined their plans to the fans last year, including 750k revenue from concerts
STFC world bringing in 400k for the club, reduced cost from the catering deals. and a few other things that escape me, but all of their model was based upon a self sustained business where they did not have to put a penny in.

So who has been covering the astronomical losses, Power on his own, so if the seabeck board want back in surely they will have to pay money to power for their share of the losses this year. Our budget was reduced by over 2 million and will be reduced further this year to a reported 1.3 million on playing staff. What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year.....

I can't say I love Power, but he has made some good signings within our budget, dealt with two courtcases (that we know of) and remained dignified throughout. On the football league show he stated if he has a pound then MC will get that pound, but if he doesn't then he gets nothing. That kinda sums us up now, I think we all have to change our mindset and stop thinking we are a big club with multi million pound owners, we aren't we have a football man who is by no means skint but will run the club with as little losses as possible.

For that reason I think you may see a couple of players leave to prop up next years budget and reduce losses, but so what we are where we are, Powers only mistake IMO is Cooper, but then thats because I don't like him and haven't enjoyed watching the dross we were served served up but more importantly the arrogance during his interviews, however before you all reach for the dislike button.... When you think of the budget we will be working within next year, the players we will lose and I think players we will get in on loan with Powers connections, maybe a Mark Cooper is what we can afford and maybe MC will be better next year, he must have learnt something from this year and maybe he will push on next year, maybe Power has relaxed the way we have to play and allowed MC to push forward and be a bit more direct whilst still playing some good football, because that is what has changed in the last few games. But whatever happens, I believe that seabeck becoming involved with our club again will not end well.
Funny how this all comes at a time when the club have income again, there is so much around what Fredi was saying last year that has never been publicised, my understanding was that the adver and trust were given evidence of payments to consultancy firms and all sorts of other mysterious goings on but decided to work with the board who did want what was best for the club. Murrell and Jed (I quite liked Jed) outlined their plans to the fans last year, including 750k revenue from concerts STFC world bringing in 400k for the club, reduced cost from the catering deals. and a few other things that escape me, but all of their model was based upon a self sustained business where they did not have to put a penny in. So who has been covering the astronomical losses, Power on his own, so if the seabeck board want back in surely they will have to pay money to power for their share of the losses this year. Our budget was reduced by over 2 million and will be reduced further this year to a reported 1.3 million on playing staff. What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year..... I can't say I love Power, but he has made some good signings within our budget, dealt with two courtcases (that we know of) and remained dignified throughout. On the football league show he stated if he has a pound then MC will get that pound, but if he doesn't then he gets nothing. That kinda sums us up now, I think we all have to change our mindset and stop thinking we are a big club with multi million pound owners, we aren't we have a football man who is by no means skint but will run the club with as little losses as possible. For that reason I think you may see a couple of players leave to prop up next years budget and reduce losses, but so what we are where we are, Powers only mistake IMO is Cooper, but then thats because I don't like him and haven't enjoyed watching the dross we were served served up but more importantly the arrogance during his interviews, however before you all reach for the dislike button.... When you think of the budget we will be working within next year, the players we will lose and I think players we will get in on loan with Powers connections, maybe a Mark Cooper is what we can afford and maybe MC will be better next year, he must have learnt something from this year and maybe he will push on next year, maybe Power has relaxed the way we have to play and allowed MC to push forward and be a bit more direct whilst still playing some good football, because that is what has changed in the last few games. But whatever happens, I believe that seabeck becoming involved with our club again will not end well. Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 4

9:08am Thu 24 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Funny how this all comes at a time when the club have income again, there is so much around what Fredi was saying last year that has never been publicised, my understanding was that the adver and trust were given evidence of payments to consultancy firms and all sorts of other mysterious goings on but decided to work with the board who did want what was best for the club.

Murrell and Jed (I quite liked Jed) outlined their plans to the fans last year, including 750k revenue from concerts
STFC world bringing in 400k for the club, reduced cost from the catering deals. and a few other things that escape me, but all of their model was based upon a self sustained business where they did not have to put a penny in.

So who has been covering the astronomical losses, Power on his own, so if the seabeck board want back in surely they will have to pay money to power for their share of the losses this year. Our budget was reduced by over 2 million and will be reduced further this year to a reported 1.3 million on playing staff. What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year.....

I can't say I love Power, but he has made some good signings within our budget, dealt with two courtcases (that we know of) and remained dignified throughout. On the football league show he stated if he has a pound then MC will get that pound, but if he doesn't then he gets nothing. That kinda sums us up now, I think we all have to change our mindset and stop thinking we are a big club with multi million pound owners, we aren't we have a football man who is by no means skint but will run the club with as little losses as possible.

For that reason I think you may see a couple of players leave to prop up next years budget and reduce losses, but so what we are where we are, Powers only mistake IMO is Cooper, but then thats because I don't like him and haven't enjoyed watching the dross we were served served up but more importantly the arrogance during his interviews, however before you all reach for the dislike button.... When you think of the budget we will be working within next year, the players we will lose and I think players we will get in on loan with Powers connections, maybe a Mark Cooper is what we can afford and maybe MC will be better next year, he must have learnt something from this year and maybe he will push on next year, maybe Power has relaxed the way we have to play and allowed MC to push forward and be a bit more direct whilst still playing some good football, because that is what has changed in the last few games. But whatever happens, I believe that seabeck becoming involved with our club again will not end well.
What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year ? I shudder as I think about next season ! Legal wrangles are still costing the club and have to be paid for ; and keep our beloved club on the breadline. Sale of our better players to raise funds seems inevitable to me.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Funny how this all comes at a time when the club have income again, there is so much around what Fredi was saying last year that has never been publicised, my understanding was that the adver and trust were given evidence of payments to consultancy firms and all sorts of other mysterious goings on but decided to work with the board who did want what was best for the club. Murrell and Jed (I quite liked Jed) outlined their plans to the fans last year, including 750k revenue from concerts STFC world bringing in 400k for the club, reduced cost from the catering deals. and a few other things that escape me, but all of their model was based upon a self sustained business where they did not have to put a penny in. So who has been covering the astronomical losses, Power on his own, so if the seabeck board want back in surely they will have to pay money to power for their share of the losses this year. Our budget was reduced by over 2 million and will be reduced further this year to a reported 1.3 million on playing staff. What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year..... I can't say I love Power, but he has made some good signings within our budget, dealt with two courtcases (that we know of) and remained dignified throughout. On the football league show he stated if he has a pound then MC will get that pound, but if he doesn't then he gets nothing. That kinda sums us up now, I think we all have to change our mindset and stop thinking we are a big club with multi million pound owners, we aren't we have a football man who is by no means skint but will run the club with as little losses as possible. For that reason I think you may see a couple of players leave to prop up next years budget and reduce losses, but so what we are where we are, Powers only mistake IMO is Cooper, but then thats because I don't like him and haven't enjoyed watching the dross we were served served up but more importantly the arrogance during his interviews, however before you all reach for the dislike button.... When you think of the budget we will be working within next year, the players we will lose and I think players we will get in on loan with Powers connections, maybe a Mark Cooper is what we can afford and maybe MC will be better next year, he must have learnt something from this year and maybe he will push on next year, maybe Power has relaxed the way we have to play and allowed MC to push forward and be a bit more direct whilst still playing some good football, because that is what has changed in the last few games. But whatever happens, I believe that seabeck becoming involved with our club again will not end well.[/p][/quote]What sort of a team do we think we will start next season with next year ? I shudder as I think about next season ! Legal wrangles are still costing the club and have to be paid for ; and keep our beloved club on the breadline. Sale of our better players to raise funds seems inevitable to me. umpcah
  • Score: 0

9:35am Thu 24 Apr 14

LeGod says...

So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club.

Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him.
So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club. Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him. LeGod
  • Score: 4

11:30am Thu 24 Apr 14

LeGod says...

I Quest Capital is apparently a company Jed maintains is prepared to fund him for a takeover of a football club with 5 million being banded about which is what he proposed to Hereford who were desperate for money and still are but turned him away.
There are too many clubs for my liking don't trust this guy which says it all and as I keep saying he's out to make a quick buck with his mates and run us into the ground and into oblivion.
I Quest Capital is apparently a company Jed maintains is prepared to fund him for a takeover of a football club with 5 million being banded about which is what he proposed to Hereford who were desperate for money and still are but turned him away. There are too many clubs for my liking don't trust this guy which says it all and as I keep saying he's out to make a quick buck with his mates and run us into the ground and into oblivion. LeGod
  • Score: 0

11:34am Thu 24 Apr 14

LeGod says...

I should have said IQuest Capital are IT consultants based in India and are not a UK company maybe they are related to the Venkys so be prepared to take your shoes off at the next home game and vent your feelings.
I should have said IQuest Capital are IT consultants based in India and are not a UK company maybe they are related to the Venkys so be prepared to take your shoes off at the next home game and vent your feelings. LeGod
  • Score: 2

12:34pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ShearerShearer says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-)
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-) ShearerShearer
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Wilesy says...

ShearerShearer wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Who cares???????
You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-)
Whilst people do obviously care, there is an argument for it not mattering in terms of the watching STFC. By that I without knowledge of all this background shenanigans would it have affected anyones enjoyment if the sole enjoyment is just to go and watch a game of football?
[quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-)[/p][/quote]Whilst people do obviously care, there is an argument for it not mattering in terms of the watching STFC. By that I without knowledge of all this background shenanigans would it have affected anyones enjoyment if the sole enjoyment is just to go and watch a game of football? Wilesy
  • Score: 1

2:25pm Thu 24 Apr 14

mug? says...

LeGod wrote:
So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club.

Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him.
I can still see his twitter account. I'm not stupid enough to send him random abuse though! His last tweet was April 21st about his beloved Luton Town fc. Maybe she should create a consortium to take over Luton and run them into the ground. See how he likes it!

On 1st April he posted this "Have I told all how much I love my cousin ...👍... Watch this space for a new family venture ...."

Does anyone know where we could get hold of the court documents surrounding the current case?

Are court documents public records? (I don't know so asking) Usually court cases are reported on but not this one. Obviously the nationals are not interested and the Adver is too scared in case privateer Power bans them again!

http://uk.practicall
aw.com/3-210-3957

this seems to suggest there is some way to access documents. I wouldn't know where to begin though. I don't even know which court is being used.

ps. Noted about Jed being banned. I see murral has posted on the town end forum.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club. Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him.[/p][/quote]I can still see his twitter account. I'm not stupid enough to send him random abuse though! His last tweet was April 21st about his beloved Luton Town fc. Maybe she should create a consortium to take over Luton and run them into the ground. See how he likes it! On 1st April he posted this "Have I told all how much I love my cousin ...👍... Watch this space for a new family venture ...." Does anyone know where we could get hold of the court documents surrounding the current case? Are court documents public records? (I don't know so asking) Usually court cases are reported on but not this one. Obviously the nationals are not interested and the Adver is too scared in case privateer Power bans them again! http://uk.practicall aw.com/3-210-3957 this seems to suggest there is some way to access documents. I wouldn't know where to begin though. I don't even know which court is being used. ps. Noted about Jed being banned. I see murral has posted on the town end forum. mug?
  • Score: 0

4:36pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

Wilesy wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Who cares???????
You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-)
Whilst people do obviously care, there is an argument for it not mattering in terms of the watching STFC. By that I without knowledge of all this background shenanigans would it have affected anyones enjoyment if the sole enjoyment is just to go and watch a game of football?
You're right in one sense, but in another the two are directly related - the off field nonsense may mean that in the future we no longer have a club to support, or in the short term it may affect how we perform on the pitch, or our ability to sign players etc.

I'm not big into the off field stuff myself (the accounts and detailed stuff go way over my head and have no interest really) but would like to know that the club is in the hands of people who have it's interests at heart and not simply their own and what they can get out of us.

That said the lack of concrete answers at the moment are causing speculation which isn't a good thing as none of us really know what's going on, and so can't come to any decent conclusions. Would just like this all cleared up a.s.a.p. so we can move on, and hopefully it won't be at the detriment of the club.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Who cares???????[/p][/quote]You're on -32 already and we haven't got to next season yet ;-)[/p][/quote]Whilst people do obviously care, there is an argument for it not mattering in terms of the watching STFC. By that I without knowledge of all this background shenanigans would it have affected anyones enjoyment if the sole enjoyment is just to go and watch a game of football?[/p][/quote]You're right in one sense, but in another the two are directly related - the off field nonsense may mean that in the future we no longer have a club to support, or in the short term it may affect how we perform on the pitch, or our ability to sign players etc. I'm not big into the off field stuff myself (the accounts and detailed stuff go way over my head and have no interest really) but would like to know that the club is in the hands of people who have it's interests at heart and not simply their own and what they can get out of us. That said the lack of concrete answers at the moment are causing speculation which isn't a good thing as none of us really know what's going on, and so can't come to any decent conclusions. Would just like this all cleared up a.s.a.p. so we can move on, and hopefully it won't be at the detriment of the club. Swindon1984
  • Score: 2

7:49pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

LeGod wrote:
So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club.

Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him.
Didn't know most of that but just been catching up on it. Despite the fact that he "has immediate access to £5m" those clubs all turned him down. How strange!
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So since Jed left us he has tried takeovers at Hereford - Kidderminster and Barnsley but all declined his offers as they wanted to know his plans for the club and where he would take the club therefore with his answer they all declined his offer - So if fans at STFC should be worried if this guy gets his hands back on our club. Now he has blocked his Twitter account as well so I would imagine people making their views known to him.[/p][/quote]Didn't know most of that but just been catching up on it. Despite the fact that he "has immediate access to £5m" those clubs all turned him down. How strange! Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

9:57pm Thu 24 Apr 14

joey butler says...

So Town are riddled with integrity problems at the highest level, yet again!

And talking of integrity, who was the idiot that signed Ranger?
So Town are riddled with integrity problems at the highest level, yet again! And talking of integrity, who was the idiot that signed Ranger? joey butler
  • Score: 0

10:51pm Thu 24 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Interesting LeGod - just had a read of bulls news the Hereford blog and yep the waft of bullsh!t spreads right through the article with all roads leading to the Banbury c0ck horse himself.
Credit to Hereford Kiddy & Barnsley that they weren't taken in by The Wizard of Ox!
Interesting LeGod - just had a read of bulls news the Hereford blog and yep the waft of bullsh!t spreads right through the article with all roads leading to the Banbury c0ck horse himself. Credit to Hereford Kiddy & Barnsley that they weren't taken in by The Wizard of Ox! The Jockster
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

You forgot Cheltenham. And I think Luton had him barred from their ground at one point. But good ol' STFC welcomed him with open arms. Black's admitted sense of humour failure over Wray's indulgence of PDC was understandable. For a man who was our representative in Baghdad and Kabul, Patey might be forgiven for wondering what happened to his own sense of smell.
You forgot Cheltenham. And I think Luton had him barred from their ground at one point. But good ol' STFC welcomed him with open arms. Black's admitted sense of humour failure over Wray's indulgence of PDC was understandable. For a man who was our representative in Baghdad and Kabul, Patey might be forgiven for wondering what happened to his own sense of smell. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

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