UPDATED: Town release Ranger statement

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Nile Ranger Nile Ranger

SWINDON Town have this evening released a statement regarding striker Nile Ranger.

Ranger is believed to have been arrested in Newcastle in the early hours of this morning on suspicion of breaking bail conditions imposed on him ahead of his upcoming rape trial, a charge he denies. Ranger has since been released after appearing at Newcastle Magistrates Court.

As part of his bail the forward was told not to enter a Northumbria police force area unless to meet with his legal team to prepare for the trial.

However, Town have now released a statement insisting Ranger was in the north east to meet with his representatives and had been given permission to do so by the club.

The statement reads: "Following earlier media reports, Swindon Town can confirm that Nile Ranger has not been found to be in breach of any of his bail conditions.

"Nile was given permission by the club to have time off yesterday and today to consult with his legal counsel up in Newcastle ahead of his upcoming court case.

"This consultation was due to resume today. He is expected to return to the Club tomorrow, as previously agreed.

"The club will not be making any further comment on this matter.

A spokesman for Northumbria Police said: "A 22-year-old man has been arrested in Newcastle City Centre in the early hours of Wednesday February 12 on suspicion of breaching bail conditions.

"He appeared at Newcastle Magistrates' Court yesterday morning and was readmitted on conditional bail until his crown court hearing."

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7:44pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Legal team....early hours of the morning?
Legal team....early hours of the morning? Brainy_G93
  • Score: -2

7:47pm Wed 12 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

Looks like sammys will be banned again lol.
Looks like sammys will be banned again lol. smirg kcab
  • Score: -3

8:05pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Chish and Fips says...

Well, where do we go from here... some have already hung, drawn and quartered him....
Well, where do we go from here... some have already hung, drawn and quartered him.... Chish and Fips
  • Score: -1

8:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

the don69 says...

Nile's got more lives than a cat! it must be his tenth or eleventh, trouble is he's a class act on the pitch and without him this season we could well be battling relegation like Sh1ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nile's got more lives than a cat! it must be his tenth or eleventh, trouble is he's a class act on the pitch and without him this season we could well be battling relegation like Sh1ty!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 9

8:13pm Wed 12 Feb 14

bookiered says...

Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values.
Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values. bookiered
  • Score: 0

8:23pm Wed 12 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

bookiered wrote:
Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values.
Perhaps she's a women and wanted his nudger
[quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values.[/p][/quote]Perhaps she's a women and wanted his nudger smirg kcab
  • Score: -27

8:25pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really.
Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really. Swindon1984
  • Score: 12

8:58pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Welease Waynger!
Welease Waynger! Oi Den!
  • Score: -6

9:02pm Wed 12 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy! The Jockster
  • Score: -8

9:33pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really.
You're right '84. It doesn't add up. Either Ranger is in the wrong or there's a big hole in the legal system. Would he not need advance permission from the police (or is it the CPS?) to be in Newcastle? If the police don't know he's there because he doesn't need to ask permission, they are obviously going to arrest him if they see him there in the early hours of the morning. If he's been given clearance and the police don't know about it, communication has failed miserably.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really.[/p][/quote]You're right '84. It doesn't add up. Either Ranger is in the wrong or there's a big hole in the legal system. Would he not need advance permission from the police (or is it the CPS?) to be in Newcastle? If the police don't know he's there because he doesn't need to ask permission, they are obviously going to arrest him if they see him there in the early hours of the morning. If he's been given clearance and the police don't know about it, communication has failed miserably. Oi Den!
  • Score: 5

11:01pm Wed 12 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans! The Jockster
  • Score: -3

11:09pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really.
You're right '84. It doesn't add up. Either Ranger is in the wrong or there's a big hole in the legal system. Would he not need advance permission from the police (or is it the CPS?) to be in Newcastle? If the police don't know he's there because he doesn't need to ask permission, they are obviously going to arrest him if they see him there in the early hours of the morning. If he's been given clearance and the police don't know about it, communication has failed miserably.
Agree with you guys and prefer to wait for a charge from the police or a statement from them. This is highish profile and the reports could be exaggerated as a result, note the "suspicion of". If he was there legitimately was there a curfew for him ?

On a lighter note, anyone know an "anti-rain Dance" ? This bl00dy weather is doing my head in.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: Contradictory reports here - if he was allowed to go there to meet hi legal representatives but went out in the city centre afterwards then he may have a problem. Anyway, who knows, benefit of the doubt from me for the moment - pointless hazarding an opinion really.[/p][/quote]You're right '84. It doesn't add up. Either Ranger is in the wrong or there's a big hole in the legal system. Would he not need advance permission from the police (or is it the CPS?) to be in Newcastle? If the police don't know he's there because he doesn't need to ask permission, they are obviously going to arrest him if they see him there in the early hours of the morning. If he's been given clearance and the police don't know about it, communication has failed miserably.[/p][/quote]Agree with you guys and prefer to wait for a charge from the police or a statement from them. This is highish profile and the reports could be exaggerated as a result, note the "suspicion of". If he was there legitimately was there a curfew for him ? On a lighter note, anyone know an "anti-rain Dance" ? This bl00dy weather is doing my head in. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -1

11:10pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-)

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

11:50pm Wed 12 Feb 14

sagadude says...

The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Crucifix or release.........this way.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Crucifix or release.........this way. sagadude
  • Score: 0

7:38am Thu 13 Feb 14

LydiardRED67 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-)

COYMR
No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife..... LydiardRED67
  • Score: -3

7:47am Thu 13 Feb 14

ShearerShearer says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR
No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....
Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....[/p][/quote]Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning ShearerShearer
  • Score: 1

7:59am Thu 13 Feb 14

London Red says...

Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p
.
Seems it is as follows:
.
Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week?
.
Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle"
.
Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was
.
Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training
.
So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night
.
Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night!
.
Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again
Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p . Seems it is as follows: . Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week? . Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle" . Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was . Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training . So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night . Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night! . Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again London Red
  • Score: 18

8:33am Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

ShearerShearer wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR
No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....
Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning
Beard, madam?
[quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....[/p][/quote]Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning[/p][/quote]Beard, madam? Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

8:59am Thu 13 Feb 14

LeGod says...

So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions.

I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.
So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions. I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again. LeGod
  • Score: 4

9:03am Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

LeGod wrote:
So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions.

I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.
Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions. I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.[/p][/quote]Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions? Oi Den!
  • Score: -2

9:10am Thu 13 Feb 14

Bassett Hound says...

Oi Den! wrote:
LeGod wrote:
So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions.

I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.
Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?
It clearly states in the clubs statement above that he has not breached his bail conditions. He has not been charged either.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions. I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.[/p][/quote]Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?[/p][/quote]It clearly states in the clubs statement above that he has not breached his bail conditions. He has not been charged either. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 3

9:22am Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
LeGod wrote:
So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions.

I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.
Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?
It clearly states in the clubs statement above that he has not breached his bail conditions. He has not been charged either.
Apologies. Don't know how I missed that. I see the report has been updated this morning.
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions. I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.[/p][/quote]Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?[/p][/quote]It clearly states in the clubs statement above that he has not breached his bail conditions. He has not been charged either.[/p][/quote]Apologies. Don't know how I missed that. I see the report has been updated this morning. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

9:38am Thu 13 Feb 14

International Robin2 says...

Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage?
Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage? International Robin2
  • Score: -3

10:13am Thu 13 Feb 14

eyesrightskinbacktight says...

Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR
No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....
Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning
Beard, madam?
Wolf nipple chips, otter spleens.
Get 'em while they're hot they're lovely!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....[/p][/quote]Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning[/p][/quote]Beard, madam?[/p][/quote]Wolf nipple chips, otter spleens. Get 'em while they're hot they're lovely!! eyesrightskinbacktight
  • Score: -1

10:23am Thu 13 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p
.
Seems it is as follows:
.
Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week?
.
Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle"
.
Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was
.
Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training
.
So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night
.
Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night!
.
Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again
Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!.

What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub?

Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario!

Just imagine if that had happened!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p . Seems it is as follows: . Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week? . Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle" . Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was . Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training . So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night . Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night! . Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!. What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub? Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario! Just imagine if that had happened! Wilesy
  • Score: 1

10:23am Thu 13 Feb 14

oz ashes says...

International Robin2 wrote:
Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage?
maybe because of the huge cost for the legal team to go visit ranger somewere else
[quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage?[/p][/quote]maybe because of the huge cost for the legal team to go visit ranger somewere else oz ashes
  • Score: 3

10:32am Thu 13 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

International Robin2 wrote:
Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage?
Good point. I just don't get it.

With 3 pairs of rose tinted on perhaps him and his legal team were running through events prior to what happened on the evening by in prep for the trial, eg visiting the club to show the team where he was.

Hmm, not sure that needed to be done at 230 am though
[quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Why would a legal team who would be more than aware of bail conditions set rather than Nile logically request a meeting in the one area of the country he's not supposed to be? Hmmm something smells like sewerage?[/p][/quote]Good point. I just don't get it. With 3 pairs of rose tinted on perhaps him and his legal team were running through events prior to what happened on the evening by in prep for the trial, eg visiting the club to show the team where he was. Hmm, not sure that needed to be done at 230 am though Wilesy
  • Score: 0

11:05am Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote:
Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p
.
Seems it is as follows:
.
Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week?
.
Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle"
.
Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was
.
Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training
.
So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night
.
Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night!
.
Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again
Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!.

What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub?

Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario!

Just imagine if that had happened!
Yep - well reasoned. If Attila the Hun signed for the Town, LR would find reasons to excuse his behaviour. Heaven save him from LR's wrath if he decided to ask for a transfer though.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p . Seems it is as follows: . Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week? . Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle" . Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was . Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training . So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night . Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night! . Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!. What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub? Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario! Just imagine if that had happened![/p][/quote]Yep - well reasoned. If Attila the Hun signed for the Town, LR would find reasons to excuse his behaviour. Heaven save him from LR's wrath if he decided to ask for a transfer though. Oi Den!
  • Score: -7

11:12am Thu 13 Feb 14

MITTED says...

So it turns out that Ranger did nothing illegal. Shame the media don't make such a fuss over the truth as they did with their initial headlines. It only fuels the barrack-room lawyers on this forum and other!!!!
So it turns out that Ranger did nothing illegal. Shame the media don't make such a fuss over the truth as they did with their initial headlines. It only fuels the barrack-room lawyers on this forum and other!!!! MITTED
  • Score: 1

11:45am Thu 13 Feb 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote: Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p . Seems it is as follows: . Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week? . Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle" . Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was . Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training . So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night . Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night! . Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again
Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!. What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub? Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario! Just imagine if that had happened!
Yep - well reasoned. If Attila the Hun signed for the Town, LR would find reasons to excuse his behaviour. Heaven save him from LR's wrath if he decided to ask for a transfer though.
Or Den - it is simply that I am going by the letter of the law and as it turns out he did NOT break any conditions of his bail as clearly reported and thus released WITHOUT charge.
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How is that excusing his behaviour? - he didn't actually do anything wrong!
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Last time I checked it was not illegal to go out to a club - it may be seen as unprofessional and immorral - but not illegal
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But how many footballers - not just Ranger - continually act unprofessionally and immorrally - the answer a lot!
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Thats not just footballers either - how many on here have been out on a "school night" etc?
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To me this is just the same as poster slating LM when he was here - yet have been behind the wheel while drunk themselves!
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Stones and glass houses!
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We can all make up as many scenarios as we like as what could have happened - and some may have some legs as Wilesy said - but as that didn't happen in reality only in a alternative universe - I not going to throw the book at him in reality - that can take place in the alternative universre where those scenarios took place
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If the police were that worried then they would have charged him with something!
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Ask Pressley what he thinks of certain Transfer requests Den - that was my viewpoint - just becasue it doesn't match yours doesn't mean its wrong!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Western Daily Press give a good account of facts - not made up cr@p . Seems it is as follows: . Ranger granted leave of absence on Tues 11th and Wed 12th to travel to Newcastle to meet with legal team. Understandable isn't his court case next week? . Overnight on Tues 11th while away he goes out in the evening is picked up by the police as "not allowed in Newcastle" . Next day is released without charge and continues his meeting with his legal team - as "allowed in Newcastle" if meeting legal team which he was . Thurs 12th due back in Swindon for training . So if he turns up today only crime is going out on Tuesday night . Is that really a crime? It doesn't say he was drunk or anything - and I bet lots have been out while away as hardly anyone sits in their hotel room all night! . Granted with his profile he probably should have simply stayed in and avoided the headlines it created - but is it really a "life" gone when he hasn't actually done anything wrong - thus released again[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter if he was at a loose end for an evening he should definitely have stayed in. He's accused of rape and legally not allowed out clubbing in Newcastle!. What if coincidentally his alleged victim had been in the nightclub? Probably the main reason for the bail clause is to avoid the chance of that scenario! Just imagine if that had happened![/p][/quote]Yep - well reasoned. If Attila the Hun signed for the Town, LR would find reasons to excuse his behaviour. Heaven save him from LR's wrath if he decided to ask for a transfer though.[/p][/quote]Or Den - it is simply that I am going by the letter of the law and as it turns out he did NOT break any conditions of his bail as clearly reported and thus released WITHOUT charge. . How is that excusing his behaviour? - he didn't actually do anything wrong! . Last time I checked it was not illegal to go out to a club - it may be seen as unprofessional and immorral - but not illegal . But how many footballers - not just Ranger - continually act unprofessionally and immorrally - the answer a lot! . Thats not just footballers either - how many on here have been out on a "school night" etc? . To me this is just the same as poster slating LM when he was here - yet have been behind the wheel while drunk themselves! . Stones and glass houses! . We can all make up as many scenarios as we like as what could have happened - and some may have some legs as Wilesy said - but as that didn't happen in reality only in a alternative universe - I not going to throw the book at him in reality - that can take place in the alternative universre where those scenarios took place . If the police were that worried then they would have charged him with something! . Ask Pressley what he thinks of certain Transfer requests Den - that was my viewpoint - just becasue it doesn't match yours doesn't mean its wrong! London Red
  • Score: 3

12:57pm Thu 13 Feb 14

ShearerShearer says...

eyesrightskinbacktig
ht
wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
ShearerShearer wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Welease Waynger!
He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy!
Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans!
Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR
No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....
Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning
Beard, madam?
Wolf nipple chips, otter spleens. Get 'em while they're hot they're lovely!!
He's offering me 14 for this
[quote][p][bold]eyesrightskinbacktig ht[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShearerShearer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Welease Waynger![/p][/quote]He's not coming out he's been a naughty naughty boy![/p][/quote]Aha the minus muppets are evidently not Python fans![/p][/quote]Always look on the bright side Jock :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]No, I'm Jockster, and so's my Wife.....[/p][/quote]Aw c'mon let's go to a stoning[/p][/quote]Beard, madam?[/p][/quote]Wolf nipple chips, otter spleens. Get 'em while they're hot they're lovely!![/p][/quote]He's offering me 14 for this ShearerShearer
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

LR, the only official word from the police was: "He appeared at Newcastle Magistrates' Court yesterday morning and was readmitted on conditional bail until his crown court hearing."

That does not say he did not breach the bail conditions. He has in fact breached the very same bail condition previously and the outcome was exactly the same. He was released on the same bail conditions.

So we simply don't know whether he breached the conditions or not, despite the club statement.

But in any case, whether anything illegal has happened or not, surely it's more about Ranger's general behaviour as a footballer and the way it affects our club. Do we really want our players to be out in the early hours of the morning a few days before an important League game? And it's not as if it's a one-off, is it?

Don't misunderstand me LR. I think Ranger is a fantastic footballer. He's wonderful to watch and I've no doubt he's gained us several points we wouldn't have had otherwise. But it's little wonder the other players got angry with him when he was writing his own rules while they were trying to do the right things. How many more chances does he get?
LR, the only official word from the police was: "He appeared at Newcastle Magistrates' Court yesterday morning and was readmitted on conditional bail until his crown court hearing." That does not say he did not breach the bail conditions. He has in fact breached the very same bail condition previously and the outcome was exactly the same. He was released on the same bail conditions. So we simply don't know whether he breached the conditions or not, despite the club statement. But in any case, whether anything illegal has happened or not, surely it's more about Ranger's general behaviour as a footballer and the way it affects our club. Do we really want our players to be out in the early hours of the morning a few days before an important League game? And it's not as if it's a one-off, is it? Don't misunderstand me LR. I think Ranger is a fantastic footballer. He's wonderful to watch and I've no doubt he's gained us several points we wouldn't have had otherwise. But it's little wonder the other players got angry with him when he was writing his own rules while they were trying to do the right things. How many more chances does he get? Oi Den!
  • Score: 3

1:33pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

'What about you? Do you find it... wisible... when I say the name... Biggus...Dickus


COYMR
'What about you? Do you find it... wisible... when I say the name... Biggus...Dickus COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -2

1:50pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
'What about you? Do you find it... wisible... when I say the name... Biggus...Dickus


COYMR
Oxon, that's possibly my favourite comedy moment of all time.

(He has a wife, you know.......)
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: 'What about you? Do you find it... wisible... when I say the name... Biggus...Dickus COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, that's possibly my favourite comedy moment of all time. (He has a wife, you know.......) Oi Den!
  • Score: -2

2:20pm Thu 13 Feb 14

London Red says...

Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper!
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http://www.gazette-n
ews.co.uk/news/11002
988.U_s_Okuonghae_in
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_brawl/?ref=ar
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As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew?
Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper! . http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/11002 988.U_s_Okuonghae_in volved_in_late_night _brawl/?ref=ar . As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew? London Red
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2:30pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper!
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http://www.gazette-n

ews.co.uk/news/11002

988.U_s_Okuonghae_in

volved_in_late_night

_brawl/?ref=ar
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As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew?
Come off it LR, multiple wrongs don't make a right. And yes - I've been out too late for my own good on many occasions. But you're asking the wrong bloke. I wonder what Mark Cooper thinks of it.

I hope there's more good stuff to come from Ranger, I hope he's not guilty of the charge he's facing but I wonder whether he'll ever decide to (in Cooper's words) behave like the other players.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper! . http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/11002 988.U_s_Okuonghae_in volved_in_late_night _brawl/?ref=ar . As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew?[/p][/quote]Come off it LR, multiple wrongs don't make a right. And yes - I've been out too late for my own good on many occasions. But you're asking the wrong bloke. I wonder what Mark Cooper thinks of it. I hope there's more good stuff to come from Ranger, I hope he's not guilty of the charge he's facing but I wonder whether he'll ever decide to (in Cooper's words) behave like the other players. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

3:52pm Thu 13 Feb 14

the don69 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper!
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http://www.gazette-n


ews.co.uk/news/11002


988.U_s_Okuonghae_in


volved_in_late_night


_brawl/?ref=ar
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As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew?
Come off it LR, multiple wrongs don't make a right. And yes - I've been out too late for my own good on many occasions. But you're asking the wrong bloke. I wonder what Mark Cooper thinks of it.

I hope there's more good stuff to come from Ranger, I hope he's not guilty of the charge he's facing but I wonder whether he'll ever decide to (in Cooper's words) behave like the other players.
Sir Matt Busby asked the same question of George Best chaps! you know what the answer is chaps! but the best players seem to be able to do what they want,as long as there doing it on the pitch!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Den - Was reading about the Col U boss getting his excuses in early when I noticed this article in the same paper! . http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/11002 988.U_s_Okuonghae_in volved_in_late_night _brawl/?ref=ar . As I said its very common - at least Ranger didn't actually do anything apart from be out. But I'm sure you have never been out past 9pm! Or is that too late? Or is it 7pm curfew?[/p][/quote]Come off it LR, multiple wrongs don't make a right. And yes - I've been out too late for my own good on many occasions. But you're asking the wrong bloke. I wonder what Mark Cooper thinks of it. I hope there's more good stuff to come from Ranger, I hope he's not guilty of the charge he's facing but I wonder whether he'll ever decide to (in Cooper's words) behave like the other players.[/p][/quote]Sir Matt Busby asked the same question of George Best chaps! you know what the answer is chaps! but the best players seem to be able to do what they want,as long as there doing it on the pitch!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Thu 13 Feb 14

London Red says...

Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
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That answers what Cooper thinks!
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Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
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If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me! London Red
  • Score: 2

6:00pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
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That answers what Cooper thinks!
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Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
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If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team.

If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me![/p][/quote]If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team. If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

7:28pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Spam, Spam, Spam....

COYMR
Spam, Spam, Spam.... COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -3

10:11pm Thu 13 Feb 14

joey butler says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
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That answers what Cooper thinks!
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Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
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If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team.

If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.
I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well.

Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above.

He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial.

And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me![/p][/quote]If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team. If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.[/p][/quote]I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well. Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above. He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial. And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals. joey butler
  • Score: -4

12:01am Fri 14 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
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That answers what Cooper thinks!
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Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
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If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
The staying out late isn't an issue in itself, its where he was that caused the problem.

Anyway it's history now no harm done onto Colchester!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me![/p][/quote]The staying out late isn't an issue in itself, its where he was that caused the problem. Anyway it's history now no harm done onto Colchester! Wilesy
  • Score: 1

9:57am Fri 14 Feb 14

Oi Den! says...

joey butler wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
.
That answers what Cooper thinks!
.
Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
.
If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team.

If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.
I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well.

Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above.

He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial.

And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals.
JB, there's no inconsistency in my comments on Ranger. I've said from day 1 that I think it was a mistake to sign him. I've also said he's had enough chances and should have been shown the door by now.

But the facts are we did sign him and, despite some suggestions from the club to the contrary, we are clearly not getting rid of him. Ranger is a very good footballer (deny that one if it suits you but there are many thousands who would testify that it's true).
Whatever you and I feel about his presence at the club, we can do nothing about it. He is a Swindon Town player who has considerable talent. IF he has now decided to behave as a professional athlete should, then he can be an asset to our club. If he is fit and committed, what is the point in paying him and not playing him? And if he does play, do we not want him to play well because it benefits the team?

I seem to have achieved the remarkable feat of upsetting some people on both sides of the Ranger debate, which I find quite satisfying really. The world is not black and white.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me![/p][/quote]If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team. If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.[/p][/quote]I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well. Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above. He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial. And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals.[/p][/quote]JB, there's no inconsistency in my comments on Ranger. I've said from day 1 that I think it was a mistake to sign him. I've also said he's had enough chances and should have been shown the door by now. But the facts are we did sign him and, despite some suggestions from the club to the contrary, we are clearly not getting rid of him. Ranger is a very good footballer (deny that one if it suits you but there are many thousands who would testify that it's true). Whatever you and I feel about his presence at the club, we can do nothing about it. He is a Swindon Town player who has considerable talent. IF he has now decided to behave as a professional athlete should, then he can be an asset to our club. If he is fit and committed, what is the point in paying him and not playing him? And if he does play, do we not want him to play well because it benefits the team? I seem to have achieved the remarkable feat of upsetting some people on both sides of the Ranger debate, which I find quite satisfying really. The world is not black and white. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

10:42am Fri 14 Feb 14

6degreessouth says...

smirg kcab wrote:
bookiered wrote:
Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values.
Perhaps she's a women and wanted his nudger
Funny very funny
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Seems strange that a meeting with his legal team would take place in the early hours of the morning in Newcastle city centre. Still if he continues to score goals and the Club has given it's permission I guess the law is obviously irrelevant. Just as well we follow a team with strong family values.[/p][/quote]Perhaps she's a women and wanted his nudger[/p][/quote]Funny very funny 6degreessouth
  • Score: 0

11:42pm Fri 14 Feb 14

joey butler says...

Oi Den! wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available
.
That answers what Cooper thinks!
.
Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business
.
If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me!
If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team.

If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.
I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well.

Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above.

He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial.

And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals.
JB, there's no inconsistency in my comments on Ranger. I've said from day 1 that I think it was a mistake to sign him. I've also said he's had enough chances and should have been shown the door by now.

But the facts are we did sign him and, despite some suggestions from the club to the contrary, we are clearly not getting rid of him. Ranger is a very good footballer (deny that one if it suits you but there are many thousands who would testify that it's true).
Whatever you and I feel about his presence at the club, we can do nothing about it. He is a Swindon Town player who has considerable talent. IF he has now decided to behave as a professional athlete should, then he can be an asset to our club. If he is fit and committed, what is the point in paying him and not playing him? And if he does play, do we not want him to play well because it benefits the team?

I seem to have achieved the remarkable feat of upsetting some people on both sides of the Ranger debate, which I find quite satisfying really. The world is not black and white.
Very fair comments Den and I respect your opinions more often than not.

I guess it is fairly clear by now that I am not a Ranger fan at all, but you are very much entitled to your views.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Well he turned up on time and trained like eveyone else today - so is 1,000,000% available . That answers what Cooper thinks! . Same as every other profession - if you turn up do your job properly what you do (within the law) outside work is your own business . If staying out late is his only crime - that is fine by me![/p][/quote]If Cooper thinks he's fit and committed to the cause, that's fine by me because a fit and committed Ranger is an asset to any club. As for staying out late, it's a question of degrees. Allow players to stay out late whenever they want and you have recipe for what we ended up with when Wilson lost control of the team. If Ranger now shows that he's prepared to abide by the same rules as the rest of the players, maybe he'll have proved a few of us wrong. We'll see.[/p][/quote]I would expect it from London Red, but not from you of all people Den. What a bunch of two faced turncoats!! Including LeGod earlier as well. Ranger looks totally spaced out in his 'latest' Adver photo above. He is an absolute disgrace to the Swindon Town shirt, REGARDLESS of the outcome of his forthcoming trial. And he is NOT OK, just because he has scored a few goals.[/p][/quote]JB, there's no inconsistency in my comments on Ranger. I've said from day 1 that I think it was a mistake to sign him. I've also said he's had enough chances and should have been shown the door by now. But the facts are we did sign him and, despite some suggestions from the club to the contrary, we are clearly not getting rid of him. Ranger is a very good footballer (deny that one if it suits you but there are many thousands who would testify that it's true). Whatever you and I feel about his presence at the club, we can do nothing about it. He is a Swindon Town player who has considerable talent. IF he has now decided to behave as a professional athlete should, then he can be an asset to our club. If he is fit and committed, what is the point in paying him and not playing him? And if he does play, do we not want him to play well because it benefits the team? I seem to have achieved the remarkable feat of upsetting some people on both sides of the Ranger debate, which I find quite satisfying really. The world is not black and white.[/p][/quote]Very fair comments Den and I respect your opinions more often than not. I guess it is fairly clear by now that I am not a Ranger fan at all, but you are very much entitled to your views. joey butler
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11:57am Mon 17 Feb 14

sadgit says...

Oi Den! wrote:
LeGod wrote:
So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions.

I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.
Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?
In the report above.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: So Ranger HAS NOT breached his bail conditions as being reported today so are all the National papers going to report that he hasnt - i bet they dont. Yet again the media jumping to conclusions. I thought his case started this month 24th unless it has been delayed again.[/p][/quote]Where has it been said that he hasn't breached the bail conditions?[/p][/quote]In the report above. sadgit
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