Swindon Town boss Mark Cooper reflects on his career so far

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Swindon Town boss Mark Cooper Swindon Town boss Mark Cooper

FROM playing truant with his England international dad to being locked in a tumble dryer by a future Premier League manager, Mark Cooper’s first 45 years have been eventful to say the least.

Swindon Town’s boss, who celebrates his birthday today, sits down with the Advertiser on a cold and blustery Thursday afternoon to recount a life spent learning from triumph and disaster.

His story is about success born out of frustration - his meanderings as a player, great non-league moments and memories he has tried very hard to forget, without success.

I’ve come to know by now that Cooper is not averse to voicing an opinion, and on this occasion he doesn’t disappoint as he offers anecdote after anecdote illuminating the side of football minus the glamour but with third helpings of pure, unadulterated character thrown on the side.

We start at the beginning. The son of one of the best full-backs England has ever produced, Cooper grew up in Wakefield and Middlesbrough before moving to Bristol aged eight when his dad Terry took the manager’s job at Ashton Gate.

Cooper developed a deep love for football from a young age, inspired by his dad.

“I knew my dad was a little different and he was famous because we lived where he grew up as a boy. He was a bit of a celebrity,” he said.

“We moved to Middlesbrough and I watched him play a little bit and I started to play football myself under the stand after games with other players’ sons. We didn’t have a ball. We used to have newspaper and my mum used to fold it up and make a ball.

“Jack Charlton’s son played and people like that. It was good fun.”

Life as a footballer’s son is a constant game of musical chairs. Soon Ayresome Park was swapped for Ashton Gate, with Cooper senior taking charge of Bristol City.

Cooper junior, already the analyst, skipped school without his mum’s knowledge to go scouting with his father on midweek evenings and at weekends.

On a Sunday, the fledgling midfielder would play for various representative and local teams in the Bristol area.

He turned out for Backwell Athletic and Boca Juniors (not those Boca Juniors), with his dad running the touchline.

Cooper speaks passionately, almost intimately, about his relationship with his family. Perhaps that played a major role in his decision to turn down the offer of a scholarship with Watford aged 15.

Instead, a young Mark Cooper wanted a place on the Bristol City production line.

“We had a very close family and stayed at home and pestered the life out of my dad to give me a scholarship, which I should never have done,” he said, with honest regret.

“It’s not a great thing with your dad in as manager. It’s not easy for a dad, always having the accusation that your son’s only here because you’re here. With my son now it would be hard for me to manager.

“You always have to be the best player and if anyone’s going to get stick off your dad it’s going to be you.

“I should have never signed. I pestered him that much he went ‘oh, go on then’.”

Though Cooper says he should never have signed for City, he rates his time in the YTS programme in Bristol as the best of his life.

He became close friends with Rob Cousins, now manager of Paulton Rovers, former Wales international Paul Mardon, Chris Honor - who played for Airdrie in a Scottish Cup final and Nigel Hawkins. All four remain tight with the Town manager today.

“They’re still my mates now, they’re the ones I still call my real mates,” he said. “When I go back to Bristol I see one or two of them. The lads I grew up with in Bristol are the ones I call my closest friends.”

Cooper and his YTS colleagues were tasked with keeping the first-team kit clean and, perhaps more importantly given his next story, dry.

“For three months I was in charge of first-team kits and that meant I’d have to wash it and dry 20 sets for the next morning. It had to be clean, dry and ready,” he said.

“I can remember one morning one of the players’ T-shirts was wet and they weren’t happy with it. I was in the kit room, that was my office, with two industrial washers and an industrial dryer.

“The two players came in - I can’t tell you who but one of them has just been on the telly - and they put me in the industrial tumble dryer and switched it on and sat there for five minutes as I was going round in this red hot tumble dryer.

“I came out and my head was like beetroot and they said ‘the kit won’t be wet tomorrow, will it?’ It was never wet again.”

I try to get Cooper to spill the beans on his two tumble dryer assailants, he’ll do nothing more than hint that one has gone on to manager in the Premier League. Reluctantly, I move the conversation on.

Cooper spent two years making his name at Ashton Gate and learning how the physical side of the game the hard way.

“We played in the Western League - so we’d be playing Saltash, Liskeard, Minehead, Mangotsfield and were 16-year-old kids,” he said.

“But we’d go to Bideford and Barnstaple and get absolutely kicked to s***. We ended up being really tough because we had to look after ourselves.”

Cooper got a professional contract as rewards for toughening up but eventually got the urge to move in search of regular football - it was a character trait which plagued his playing career as he bounced between Bristol City, Exeter, Huddersfield, Hartlepool, Fulham, Wycombe, Rushden & Diamonds, Hednesford and Forest Green before falling into management.

“I was probably pretty hard to manage,” he said. “I wouldn’t have been easy. I always had an opinion, some of it I look back on and think ‘I was out of order there’. I’d have something to say rather than saying it was my fault.

“I was an average player, I made a living out of it, scored a few goals and luckily enough bounced into coaching.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Cooper credits his father as the biggest influence on his managerial make-up.

“My dad was obviously the best because he was a player’s manager,” he said. “He’d have a laugh and a joke with them but they’d know where the line was and if they crossed it they were in trouble.

“Joe Jordan was tough, hard and absolutely a fitness fanatic. He was the fittest man on the planet, even when he was getting towards 40.

“Don Mackay was there when I went to Fulham and I used to have some right old arguments with him. He was a goalkeeper and I could never understand why he’d never coach the goalies.

“He’d be wanting to join in the five-a-side and the goalies would be standing there in the cold planting potatoes.

“I enjoyed playing but I enjoy coaching and managing more.”

Cooper’s first job came at Tamworth, proper non-league minnows, in 2004. He stabilised a club on a tiny budget and reached the third round of the FA Cup twice. It is evident that those cup runs still fill him with immense pride.

“We had nothing, no money and it was a real eye-opener with people coming to training after working all day,” he said. “You have to figure out how you’re going to get a result, you’re always battling against the odds and figuring out how you’re going to win a game you shouldn’t.

“That’s probably why I’ve had so many decent cup runs.

“It was impossible in the end to keep on getting results when you’re paying next to nothing and I ended up at Kettering.”

Success at The Lamb led Cooper to Kettering and more cup glory. He also took the club to the top of the Conference and, with a 60 per cent win ratio to his name, clubs came calling.

Cooper claims six Football League sides made approaches for him before he was sold to Peterborough.

“Peterborough ended up being the wrong club for me,” he said.

“I needed to go to an Oxford, Bristol Rovers, Lincoln, Grimsby - that would have been the most logical step for me.

“Peterborough came in and I had no choice and I was gone.

“I think I knew within the first week it was never going to work. I went into a changing room that Darren (Ferguson, his predecessor at London Road) had had for a long time and they’d been very successful. I walked into a changing room that was very tight with Darren and looking back I was never ever going to be able to get into that inner sanctum.

“That’s not Darren’s fault, I just didn’t think I was given as much help as a young manager as I could have been.”

His 13-game stint with Posh is the only topic that seems to bring the zipper across Cooper’s mouth.

He won’t be drawn to comment on chairman Darragh MacAnthony, or go any deeper into why his stay was so doomed from the start.

“He’s very passionate about football and with that comes opinion,” Cooper said of MacAnthony. “I just thought it was totally false to expect Peterborough to stay in that league with the wages they were playing.

“The majority of them had come from Conference backgrounds and he had a plan to sign these players and bring them up and I came under that - a promising manager from non-league and I could do it. And I couldn’t.

“Whatever I tried didn’t work. I have to hold my hands up to say I wasn’t good enough. Whether that was because the players didn’t want to buy into it, I don’t know, but I’ve learnt an awful lot from it.”

MacAnthony isn’t the only ‘eccentric’ chairman Cooper has had to negotiate with during his relatively brief time in management.

“My dad always says to me ‘you can’t half pick them’,” he said, half sniggering. “The Tamworth chairman was great, if you read up on the guy at Kettering the chairman (Imraan Ladak) was a nutcase.

“He employed Gazza and I went in after him. It was crazy. Gazza was my hero as a player as well.

“The chairman there wanted to interfere. I used to catch him outside the physio’s room when I was picking the team. He’d have his ear to the door and I’d open it and he’d fall out the other way.

“He’d say ‘I just dropped something on the floor’.

“He tried to change the teamsheet after I’d handed it into the referee. I learnt a lot with that chairman and then I went to Peterborough and that was tough, and then I ended up at Darlington.”

At Darlo, Cooper won the FA Trophy in his first season, but things turned sour.

“In the first season we went to Wembley, won a trophy, I had the highest win ratio of any manager in 25 years and overnight it imploded.

“Then, the chairman pulled the money out.

“I thought I got on really well with him and then bang, he pulled the money out.

“I was owed an awful lot of money and spent 16 months out of work. I’d just been to Wembley, won the first trophy they’d ever won, sold Dan Burn to Fulham for 300 grand, sold Michael Smith to Charlton for 150 and they’d made over a million quid.

“All of a sudden he said he was pulling his money out and a lot of players ended up with nothing. That was disappointing and I was out of work.”

Cooper tried to keep in touch with an evolving football world, and spent time watching training at Everton - where his former Bristol City teammates David Moyes was manager.

He returned to regular work in March as assistant to Kevin MacDonald at Swindon Town during a time of rapid transition at the County Ground.

With players coming and going, Cooper could see the stress taking an effect on MacDonald.

“I didn’t feel it too much because I was the assistant whereas Kev was on the phone to the owners,” he said.

“I think it would have been impossible not to be stressed. There were that many things being thrown at him - do this, do that and it was just the way the club had to be.”

MacDonald told Cooper he was quitting the club on the afternoon of July 12, just hours before a pre-season friendly at Forest Green.

“He just said ‘it’s not for me’. It was out of the blue. I think he just realised he didn’t want to do it,” said Cooper, who didn’t think he had a hope in hell of landing the position full-time.

“If I was the owner I wouldn’t have given it to me,” he said. “You have the fans and supporters to think about and if they appoint me then they’ll be like ‘who’s this? Why have you appointed him? Blah, blah, blah’.

“I just tried to do the best job I could for the next guy coming in. I just carried on the best I could. I had two or three weeks on my own with 20-odd players but you learn.”

Five months later and Cooper is starting to really enjoy life in Swindon, and he’s been particularly impressed by the fans.

“I’ve been really impressed how quickly they’ve taken to the style of play,” he said. “They’ve had it before and they’ve been educated by Glenn (Hoddle) and Ossie (Ardiles) so the older ones are maybe saying to the younger ones ‘this is how we were playing 20 years ago’.

“That’s how Swindon will get known as a brand or get more recognition as a club.”

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7:14am Wed 18 Dec 13

swindon69 says...

http://stuartrivers.
blogspot.co.uk/2013/
10/mark-coopers-swin
don-town.html?m=1

My thoughts back in October.
http://stuartrivers. blogspot.co.uk/2013/ 10/mark-coopers-swin don-town.html?m=1 My thoughts back in October. swindon69

9:51am Wed 18 Dec 13

LeGod says...

i'm more worried about our up and coming fixtures than reading this article - Coventry at home who score goals for fun or Leon Clarke does 3 points essential on saturday then its Bradford and Brentford away both very tough games and with our away performances or lack of them i cant see us picking anything up in those games unless something drastic changes - i hope im wrong.
Something needs to change with the way we apply our soelves away from home.
I hope we can get some reinforcements in January we need a freshen up as some players are looking tired at the moment and a little off form but i hope that is just a blip.
These next three games are very key for us as it could make our season good or worrying - we are losing touch with the top 6 and realistically at the moment i dont think were good enough for the top 6 as were too inconsistent especially away from home. Were not a team who cant grind out results which is why with some experienced players we could start doing that. If things stay as they are and the team isnt added to with experience i feel a mid table finish. if additions are added to the squad and we toughen up away from home we could hit top 6. were four points off 6th spot which is why these next three games are very key for us.
i'm more worried about our up and coming fixtures than reading this article - Coventry at home who score goals for fun or Leon Clarke does 3 points essential on saturday then its Bradford and Brentford away both very tough games and with our away performances or lack of them i cant see us picking anything up in those games unless something drastic changes - i hope im wrong. Something needs to change with the way we apply our soelves away from home. I hope we can get some reinforcements in January we need a freshen up as some players are looking tired at the moment and a little off form but i hope that is just a blip. These next three games are very key for us as it could make our season good or worrying - we are losing touch with the top 6 and realistically at the moment i dont think were good enough for the top 6 as were too inconsistent especially away from home. Were not a team who cant grind out results which is why with some experienced players we could start doing that. If things stay as they are and the team isnt added to with experience i feel a mid table finish. if additions are added to the squad and we toughen up away from home we could hit top 6. were four points off 6th spot which is why these next three games are very key for us. LeGod

9:59am Wed 18 Dec 13

Another view says...

"We need to score goals to finish opponents because we feel very comfortable on the pitch. "The possession of the ball becomes easy, the creation becomes easy. We had big chances to score but we didn't. "Maybe the way to rectify it is not to concede goals."

- That was Jose speaking after losing to Sunderland. Sounds familiar. Only difference is he has almost unlimited funds, but his problems seem to be not too dissimilar to Mark Cooper's. Football's a funny old game -)
"We need to score goals to finish opponents because we feel very comfortable on the pitch. "The possession of the ball becomes easy, the creation becomes easy. We had big chances to score but we didn't. "Maybe the way to rectify it is not to concede goals." - That was Jose speaking after losing to Sunderland. Sounds familiar. Only difference is he has almost unlimited funds, but his problems seem to be not too dissimilar to Mark Cooper's. Football's a funny old game -) Another view

10:34am Wed 18 Dec 13

MarksDad says...

I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season.

Might start clapping in a minute!
I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season. Might start clapping in a minute! MarksDad

12:13pm Wed 18 Dec 13

hertz says...

“You have to figure out how you’re going to get a result, you’re always battling against the odds and figuring out how you’re going to win a game you shouldn’t.

“That’s probably why I’ve had so many decent cup runs.

Then given he resurces you lose 4-0 , go figure
“You have to figure out how you’re going to get a result, you’re always battling against the odds and figuring out how you’re going to win a game you shouldn’t. “That’s probably why I’ve had so many decent cup runs. Then given he resurces you lose 4-0 , go figure hertz

12:23pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lifelong red says...

MarksDad wrote:
I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season.

Might start clapping in a minute!
WELL SAID SIR my feelings to
[quote][p][bold]MarksDad[/bold] wrote: I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season. Might start clapping in a minute![/p][/quote]WELL SAID SIR my feelings to lifelong red

12:23pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lifelong red says...

MarksDad wrote:
I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season.

Might start clapping in a minute!
WELL SAID SIR my feelings to
[quote][p][bold]MarksDad[/bold] wrote: I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season. Might start clapping in a minute![/p][/quote]WELL SAID SIR my feelings to lifelong red

12:29pm Wed 18 Dec 13

LeGod says...

Sheffield uniteds goal another poor goal we gave away another header in the box we didnt win - How many times has that happenned.
People need to realise teams are catching us up and we are falling behind the top 6 which is why i said the next three games are crucial. Coventry blow hot and cold score alot and concede alot could go anyway but if we are on top form we should get three points. Bradford tough at home and Brentford we owe them one after the play offs and there centre back and keeper giving us stick after the game and depends how they react to their new manager as well.
Sheffield uniteds goal another poor goal we gave away another header in the box we didnt win - How many times has that happenned. People need to realise teams are catching us up and we are falling behind the top 6 which is why i said the next three games are crucial. Coventry blow hot and cold score alot and concede alot could go anyway but if we are on top form we should get three points. Bradford tough at home and Brentford we owe them one after the play offs and there centre back and keeper giving us stick after the game and depends how they react to their new manager as well. LeGod

12:41pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

lifelong red wrote:
MarksDad wrote:
I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season.

Might start clapping in a minute!
WELL SAID SIR my feelings to
Yep, I've got the clap too.
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarksDad[/bold] wrote: I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season. Might start clapping in a minute![/p][/quote]WELL SAID SIR my feelings to[/p][/quote]Yep, I've got the clap too. mancrobin

2:11pm Wed 18 Dec 13

avo says...

Good read that. Not nearly controversial enough to stimulate much interest though. Can't you start some rumours about our top players being sold again, so that we can have hundreds of opinions to read through?
Good read that. Not nearly controversial enough to stimulate much interest though. Can't you start some rumours about our top players being sold again, so that we can have hundreds of opinions to read through? avo

2:22pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Robinonfire says...

Just play Ranger on Saturday.
Just play Ranger on Saturday. Robinonfire

2:33pm Wed 18 Dec 13

sheriffred says...

Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager....
Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it?? sheriffred

2:50pm Wed 18 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

We need to get defenders in a spin
Play the tumble dryer upfront against brentford,bradford
We need to get defenders in a spin Play the tumble dryer upfront against brentford,bradford smirg kcab

3:00pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

sheriffred wrote:
Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager....
Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
[quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ! Old-Stager, Hilperton

4:15pm Wed 18 Dec 13

old town robin says...

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote:
Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager....
Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol

Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
[quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well old town robin

4:40pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Just play Ranger on Saturday.
Why? Does he deserve to play?
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Just play Ranger on Saturday.[/p][/quote]Why? Does he deserve to play? Oi Den!

4:54pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
Just play Ranger on Saturday.
Why? Does he deserve to play?
I wonder what odds on Ranger having played his last game for Swindon?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Just play Ranger on Saturday.[/p][/quote]Why? Does he deserve to play?[/p][/quote]I wonder what odds on Ranger having played his last game for Swindon? Wilesy

4:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Steve. Brentford says...

old town robin wrote:
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh?

I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking!
If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well[/p][/quote]Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter. Steve. Brentford

5:46pm Wed 18 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

lifelong red wrote:
MarksDad wrote:
I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season.

Might start clapping in a minute!
WELL SAID SIR my feelings to
IF we are in the top 6 after are next 10 games i will be very happy as they are all very hard BUT if we play like we did at SHEFFIELD then we could be in BIB BIG trouble.

THEN we can start to say IF he is doing a good job.....
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarksDad[/bold] wrote: I am happy with MC as manager, happy with progress to date and happy to wait and see what happens for the rest of the season. Might start clapping in a minute![/p][/quote]WELL SAID SIR my feelings to[/p][/quote]IF we are in the top 6 after are next 10 games i will be very happy as they are all very hard BUT if we play like we did at SHEFFIELD then we could be in BIB BIG trouble. THEN we can start to say IF he is doing a good job..... dazzastfc

6:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

This week I will manly blaming Santa if we lose.
This week I will manly blaming Santa if we lose. jayden

6:25pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

jayden wrote:
This week I will manly blaming Santa if we lose.
I understand there has been a 'Claus' written in though. :Oo
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: This week I will manly blaming Santa if we lose.[/p][/quote]I understand there has been a 'Claus' written in though. :Oo Chish and Fips

6:55pm Wed 18 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh?

I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking!
If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.
Simple mate....GIVE THEN A SLAP then a good old SKINHEAD
MOON-STOMPING....
Are you ready !!!! START STOMPING..

Hope you and the family are all good and well...
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well[/p][/quote]Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.[/p][/quote]Simple mate....GIVE THEN A SLAP then a good old SKINHEAD MOON-STOMPING.... Are you ready !!!! START STOMPING.. Hope you and the family are all good and well... dazzastfc

6:55pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town.
He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town. jayden

6:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Since 1950 says...

LeGod wrote:
i'm more worried about our up and coming fixtures than reading this article - Coventry at home who score goals for fun or Leon Clarke does 3 points essential on saturday then its Bradford and Brentford away both very tough games and with our away performances or lack of them i cant see us picking anything up in those games unless something drastic changes - i hope im wrong.
Something needs to change with the way we apply our soelves away from home.
I hope we can get some reinforcements in January we need a freshen up as some players are looking tired at the moment and a little off form but i hope that is just a blip.
These next three games are very key for us as it could make our season good or worrying - we are losing touch with the top 6 and realistically at the moment i dont think were good enough for the top 6 as were too inconsistent especially away from home. Were not a team who cant grind out results which is why with some experienced players we could start doing that. If things stay as they are and the team isnt added to with experience i feel a mid table finish. if additions are added to the squad and we toughen up away from home we could hit top 6. were four points off 6th spot which is why these next three games are very key for us.
Actually, LeGod I'm more worried who'll be leaving in Jan than who's coming in.

I believe we are still punching above our weight in the league. Talk of the play offs is a pipe dream. Our best route to any success this season is the JPT. Other than that, as I have said many times, staying in league 1 this season will also be a measure of success.
COYR!
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: i'm more worried about our up and coming fixtures than reading this article - Coventry at home who score goals for fun or Leon Clarke does 3 points essential on saturday then its Bradford and Brentford away both very tough games and with our away performances or lack of them i cant see us picking anything up in those games unless something drastic changes - i hope im wrong. Something needs to change with the way we apply our soelves away from home. I hope we can get some reinforcements in January we need a freshen up as some players are looking tired at the moment and a little off form but i hope that is just a blip. These next three games are very key for us as it could make our season good or worrying - we are losing touch with the top 6 and realistically at the moment i dont think were good enough for the top 6 as were too inconsistent especially away from home. Were not a team who cant grind out results which is why with some experienced players we could start doing that. If things stay as they are and the team isnt added to with experience i feel a mid table finish. if additions are added to the squad and we toughen up away from home we could hit top 6. were four points off 6th spot which is why these next three games are very key for us.[/p][/quote]Actually, LeGod I'm more worried who'll be leaving in Jan than who's coming in. I believe we are still punching above our weight in the league. Talk of the play offs is a pipe dream. Our best route to any success this season is the JPT. Other than that, as I have said many times, staying in league 1 this season will also be a measure of success. COYR! Since 1950

6:59pm Wed 18 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh?

I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking!
If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.
Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park?
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well[/p][/quote]Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.[/p][/quote]Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park? The Jockster

7:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch.
That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch. jayden

7:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

The Jockster wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh?

I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking!
If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.
Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park?
Yeah .ye old stay at home pub after another no show display LOL.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well[/p][/quote]Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.[/p][/quote]Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park?[/p][/quote]Yeah .ye old stay at home pub after another no show display LOL. jayden

7:14pm Wed 18 Dec 13

The Black Hand says...

jayden wrote:
That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch.
ain't seen any coppers cleaning the pitch?
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch.[/p][/quote]ain't seen any coppers cleaning the pitch? The Black Hand

7:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

The Black Hand wrote:
jayden wrote:
That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch.
ain't seen any coppers cleaning the pitch?
You got me over a barrel with that one.
[quote][p][bold]The Black Hand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: That copper's not a proper manager until he's cleared snow off our pitch.[/p][/quote]ain't seen any coppers cleaning the pitch?[/p][/quote]You got me over a barrel with that one. jayden

7:27pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lifelong red says...

Bit tired of reading on here about Sheffield . I have travelled the lenghs and breadths of the country in over 50 years supporting this club and theirs been a few " sheffields " on the way to some a lot worse .I can remember fans at selhurst park clambouring to get out the ground back in the seventies when we were 5.0 down at H.T against C. Palace . money spent ! icould be living in a villa in spain now as well as a luxury yacht and more .But we carried on doing it WHY? because we love our team . So you fans who went to Sheffield don't feel so hard done by its all part of following the you love .And to some of the posters on here STOP WHINGING
Bit tired of reading on here about Sheffield . I have travelled the lenghs and breadths of the country in over 50 years supporting this club and theirs been a few " sheffields " on the way to some a lot worse .I can remember fans at selhurst park clambouring to get out the ground back in the seventies when we were 5.0 down at H.T against C. Palace . money spent ! icould be living in a villa in spain now as well as a luxury yacht and more .But we carried on doing it WHY? because we love our team . So you fans who went to Sheffield don't feel so hard done by its all part of following the you love .And to some of the posters on here STOP WHINGING lifelong red

8:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

jayden wrote:
He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town.
Las Vegas and penhill are the only places on earth where you can pay for sex with chips
Uuumm chips
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town.[/p][/quote]Las Vegas and penhill are the only places on earth where you can pay for sex with chips Uuumm chips smirg kcab

9:43pm Wed 18 Dec 13

jayden says...

smirg kcab wrote:
jayden wrote:
He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town.
Las Vegas and penhill are the only places on earth where you can pay for sex with chips
Uuumm chips
LOL that's put me right off my battered sausage .
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: He's only employed once a year but when the chips (mmm... chips} are down he springs into action, no not Santa ,PDC with his snow clearing service. He might not be the cheapest but he's the best in the town.[/p][/quote]Las Vegas and penhill are the only places on earth where you can pay for sex with chips Uuumm chips[/p][/quote]LOL that's put me right off my battered sausage . jayden

12:14am Thu 19 Dec 13

joey butler says...

Wizard, or Ging999, or Gingernuts,

Please explain your comment in reply to my post below, to which you posted ater 4am Tuesday, What is a K.N.O.B.??

ging999 says...


joey butler wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Power has only just got himself totally in charge and as good as asked for time to get things better. Club on the verge of near extinction earlier this year, all the big earners shown the door one way or the other, modest squad assembled on the hurry up, 8th in the league and hey-ho, we get beaten and have a bad game and yet once more very predictably the same-old, same -old are out here in force with their doom and gloom. Christ Almighty do some of you actually ever want the club to do well ??????? If we won by 5 goals you would be moaning and saying it should have been 7 or 8. We all knew in June it was going to be a rough season, but you cannot wait to get your knives out. F M !!! Give Cooper and Power a chance will you !!! I would love some of the silken tongued here to apply to Power for the managers job, and see just what sort of response you'd get after your first defeat, and if you would ever have the spherical's to come out on a press conference and give an honest opinion and see the answers written here. Putting your team down if front of the other club, well, there is an advert if ever there was one for this club and the integrity of its supporters,never mind 1-0 score, more like own goal by the Away End. Pretty boys, only like it when the side is winning, never mind the fact that Clough is getting his mis firing team going at home, its was on the cards and only a mis guided well wisher would say we were going to go away and beat them after struggling to beat Stevenage at home. Its been coming for a while, Cooper has his hands tied, we all know that, so why get at him. At least he isn't trying to bankrupt the club, ffs !!!!
Just checking if your latest rant is over yet Wizard, so that other posters on here can have a say?

Permission to speak sir???

K N O B.
Wizard, or Ging999, or Gingernuts, Please explain your comment in reply to my post below, to which you posted ater 4am Tuesday, What is a K.N.O.B.?? ging999 says... joey butler wrote: the wizard wrote: Power has only just got himself totally in charge and as good as asked for time to get things better. Club on the verge of near extinction earlier this year, all the big earners shown the door one way or the other, modest squad assembled on the hurry up, 8th in the league and hey-ho, we get beaten and have a bad game and yet once more very predictably the same-old, same -old are out here in force with their doom and gloom. Christ Almighty do some of you actually ever want the club to do well ??????? If we won by 5 goals you would be moaning and saying it should have been 7 or 8. We all knew in June it was going to be a rough season, but you cannot wait to get your knives out. F M !!! Give Cooper and Power a chance will you !!! I would love some of the silken tongued here to apply to Power for the managers job, and see just what sort of response you'd get after your first defeat, and if you would ever have the spherical's to come out on a press conference and give an honest opinion and see the answers written here. Putting your team down if front of the other club, well, there is an advert if ever there was one for this club and the integrity of its supporters,never mind 1-0 score, more like own goal by the Away End. Pretty boys, only like it when the side is winning, never mind the fact that Clough is getting his mis firing team going at home, its was on the cards and only a mis guided well wisher would say we were going to go away and beat them after struggling to beat Stevenage at home. Its been coming for a while, Cooper has his hands tied, we all know that, so why get at him. At least he isn't trying to bankrupt the club, ffs !!!! Just checking if your latest rant is over yet Wizard, so that other posters on here can have a say? Permission to speak sir??? K N O B. joey butler

8:44am Thu 19 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

What goes K N O B 99 ?



A centipede with a wooden leg...




...walking backwards :-)


COYMR
What goes K N O B 99 ? A centipede with a wooden leg... ...walking backwards :-) COYMR Oxon-Red

11:40am Thu 19 Dec 13

Steve. Brentford says...

The Jockster wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
sheriffred wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??
David Moyes I suppose !
As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well
Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.
Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park?
Hello Malky me ol stickleback, the Griffin is closest to the away end and if you get down early enough you should be able to park close by, the New inn is also ok most of the pubs around this way are fullers pubs with real ale, hope you have a good day mate.

We are all good Daz, hope you and yours are in fine fettle, look forward to seeing you in the new year.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old-Stager, Hilperton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sheriffred[/bold] wrote: Any guesses as to the mystery tumble dryer bully is? Current Premier League manager.... Anyway, Mark if you're reading this keep up the good work pal - the article confirms what I thought about you being a fighter. You can't put a price on desire and I reckon your earlier set-backs have given you plenty of that. I'm glad you want to prove yourself at this level..sticking it to the posh at Wembley in the JPT final wouldn't be a bad way to cash in those karma points now would it??[/p][/quote]David Moyes I suppose ![/p][/quote]As he's such good mates with Moyes, we might see one or two loan's from Utd to join the Spurs contingent, But they got their own problems in centre of defence, so don't expect Ferdinand or Vidic to arrive, Lol Interesting article on Tim Sherwood today in the SUN, He's got the makings of a top class manager, hope he does well[/p][/quote]Yeah so do i OTR and if he manages Barca or Real Madrid then lets hope he doesn`t forget his old mate Lee Power eh? I hope we get something from the Brentford game but i just cant see it and what`s the betting they score a goal in the last 5 mins,it seems to be what they do all to regular for my liking! If they do us i foresee a few extra visitors calling in to see me over the Chrismas period,( to gloat) oh joy. and laughter.[/p][/quote]Stevie boy any pubs you can recommend to us real ale affectionados travelling up on Boxing Day to Griffin Park?[/p][/quote]Hello Malky me ol stickleback, the Griffin is closest to the away end and if you get down early enough you should be able to park close by, the New inn is also ok most of the pubs around this way are fullers pubs with real ale, hope you have a good day mate. We are all good Daz, hope you and yours are in fine fettle, look forward to seeing you in the new year. Steve. Brentford

4:04pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Malk, just to add to Steve's thoughts... New Inn - excellent little pub.
Malk, just to add to Steve's thoughts... New Inn - excellent little pub. Oi Den!

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