SWINDON TOWN: Clash against old club is just another game for Robins boss Cooper

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Swindon Town boss Mark Cooper Swindon Town boss Mark Cooper

MARK Cooper will not be treating Swindon Town’s Johnstone’s Paint Trophy area final clash with Peterborough as a personal grudge match, despite a place at Wembley being on the line for the victor.

Cooper, who was sacked after just 13 games as manager of Peterborough in 2010, guided his Town team to a penalty shootout victory over Stevenage at the County Ground last night to secure safe passage to the last four of the JPT.

There he will come up against the team with whom he shares a number of unhappy memories relating to his brief stint in charge at London Road almost four years ago.

However, Cooper is not about to get overly sentimental about the double-legged tie.

When asked by the Advertiser whether there was a personal element to the fixture, he said: “Not, not at all. Never. I’ve got too much water under the bridge for that.

“They’ve gone their way and I’ve gone mine, I’m immensely happy where I am, they’ve got a really good manager and there’s no point getting personal about it now. It was a long time ago.

“I’m sure it’s the tie of the round, I’m sure it will be on telly but it’s just like the first game of the season for me. I hope my team go out and give a real account of themselves, I hope people turn around and say ‘you know what, they can’t half play football’.

“If we can do that and sustain that for long periods then we have a chance of getting through but if we play like we did in the second half tonight we won’t get to Wembley and I have to make sure that doesn’t happen again.

“I’m looking forward to the game, it’ll be a cracker – two really good football teams going for it.”

Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent.

The winger, who recently returned early from a loan spell at Crawley, has struggled in Wiltsire since joining the club from Gillingham in January 2012.

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5:49am Wed 11 Dec 13

the wizard says...

Quote,

Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent.

Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro.
Quote, Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent. Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro. the wizard

6:51am Wed 11 Dec 13

super red says...

the wizard wrote:
Quote,

Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent.

Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro.
I dread to think how much he Cost us in transfer fees and wages!!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Quote, Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent. Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro.[/p][/quote]I dread to think how much he Cost us in transfer fees and wages!! super red

7:17am Wed 11 Dec 13

Haydonender says...

Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games.

Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era
Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games. Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era Haydonender

7:43am Wed 11 Dec 13

the wizard says...

super red wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Quote,

Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent.

Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro.
I dread to think how much he Cost us in transfer fees and wages!!
Couldn't agree more. Big shame really, as Haydonender correctly points out, flashes of talent. Stories abound of his exploits in pubs, what a waste, p155ing away a talent and future.

Someone posted yesterday that Navarro is close to retiring out of the game.
I never like to see a player leave the game through injury, but he also has cost us dearly in wages and treatment. Yet another Phil Spencer signing, and how much of Blacks money did that parasite cost the club.
I hope Power does better, after all its his money now so I should think he will be very focused on how its spent, and I welcome that.
[quote][p][bold]super red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Quote, Meanwhile, the Adver understands Luke Rooney has had his contract cancelled at the County Ground by mutual consent. Another high earner off the books, well done Town. Big shame it didn't work out, but I do remember well the warnings we had from Gills fans about him, and despite starting here brightly he quickly seemed to fall from grace. What a waste, the guy obviously has talent, but it seems now to shine very rarely, a commoditity we can ill afford. I wish him well for the future , amazing player for a local team somewhere in the lower leagues. Next up Navarro.[/p][/quote]I dread to think how much he Cost us in transfer fees and wages!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Big shame really, as Haydonender correctly points out, flashes of talent. Stories abound of his exploits in pubs, what a waste, p155ing away a talent and future. Someone posted yesterday that Navarro is close to retiring out of the game. I never like to see a player leave the game through injury, but he also has cost us dearly in wages and treatment. Yet another Phil Spencer signing, and how much of Blacks money did that parasite cost the club. I hope Power does better, after all its his money now so I should think he will be very focused on how its spent, and I welcome that. the wizard

7:57am Wed 11 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Haydonender wrote:
Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games.

Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era
Would have been a much more comfortable night had the officials spotted that the net got destroyed due to a stationary Ajose standing on the goaline getting smashed into it by the Stevenage defender.

Stonewall penalty and red card, but the ref deemed Ajose dived according to MC. Ridiculous decision. Even Oi Den would have to admit that the ref was wrong there it was that blatant.....

Also interesting to see the two footed tackle was allowed last night, good job our lads saw them coming. Kasim also looked lucky to get away with his late challenge in the box, didn't have a great view on that one but ive seen those given.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games. Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era[/p][/quote]Would have been a much more comfortable night had the officials spotted that the net got destroyed due to a stationary Ajose standing on the goaline getting smashed into it by the Stevenage defender. Stonewall penalty and red card, but the ref deemed Ajose dived according to MC. Ridiculous decision. Even Oi Den would have to admit that the ref was wrong there it was that blatant..... Also interesting to see the two footed tackle was allowed last night, good job our lads saw them coming. Kasim also looked lucky to get away with his late challenge in the box, didn't have a great view on that one but ive seen those given. Wilesy

8:40am Wed 11 Dec 13

newburymike says...

My summary of the season so far :- 7th in the league, through to the jpt area final and at times playing some great football. A great effort with a very young team, for many this is their first taste of first team pro football. We know to expect inconsistent performances & results, but loads on here expect us to win every game. We have no money but Mark doesn't moan just gets on with it. Talks a lot of sense after games. Don't forget Mark is only a novice manager of around 30 games in league football. I think he will turn out to be our best manager for years. Lets face it Sheffield Utd, & Bristol city along with many other teams in our league would bite your hand off to swap positions with us right now. Also Ben Gladwell looks a great find. I guess that makes me a happy clapper, but I'm enjoying this season very much and just enjoying the ride without massive expectations.
My summary of the season so far :- 7th in the league, through to the jpt area final and at times playing some great football. A great effort with a very young team, for many this is their first taste of first team pro football. We know to expect inconsistent performances & results, but loads on here expect us to win every game. We have no money but Mark doesn't moan just gets on with it. Talks a lot of sense after games. Don't forget Mark is only a novice manager of around 30 games in league football. I think he will turn out to be our best manager for years. Lets face it Sheffield Utd, & Bristol city along with many other teams in our league would bite your hand off to swap positions with us right now. Also Ben Gladwell looks a great find. I guess that makes me a happy clapper, but I'm enjoying this season very much and just enjoying the ride without massive expectations. newburymike

8:50am Wed 11 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Haha! Wilesy, I've never said refs don't make mistakes. I just don't see the point in dwelling on them. Sometimes the mistakes go for you, sometimes they go agin you, as your post shows. Refs have better training today than they've ever done and they're fitter than they've ever been. But they'll always make mistakes because they're human beings, not robots. I'm sure if I was reffing a game between two professional football teams I'd get a lot more wrong than most refs do. Also the importance of "right" and "wrong" are often in the eye of the beholder. A couple of weeks ago the Carlisle manager said the ref was awful, when there was barely a murmur from our side of the fence. I couldn't get to that game but I assume some questionable decisions went our way. We accept those and move on but somehow those that go against us seem more important.
Haha! Wilesy, I've never said refs don't make mistakes. I just don't see the point in dwelling on them. Sometimes the mistakes go for you, sometimes they go agin you, as your post shows. Refs have better training today than they've ever done and they're fitter than they've ever been. But they'll always make mistakes because they're human beings, not robots. I'm sure if I was reffing a game between two professional football teams I'd get a lot more wrong than most refs do. Also the importance of "right" and "wrong" are often in the eye of the beholder. A couple of weeks ago the Carlisle manager said the ref was awful, when there was barely a murmur from our side of the fence. I couldn't get to that game but I assume some questionable decisions went our way. We accept those and move on but somehow those that go against us seem more important. Oi Den!

9:00am Wed 11 Dec 13

Stilloyal says...

Will Ajose be Allowed to play in these 2 games ? Looks like Ranger may have played his last game for us as he went AWOL again yesterday, shame !
Will Ajose be Allowed to play in these 2 games ? Looks like Ranger may have played his last game for us as he went AWOL again yesterday, shame ! Stilloyal

9:03am Wed 11 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Haha! Wilesy, I've never said refs don't make mistakes. I just don't see the point in dwelling on them. Sometimes the mistakes go for you, sometimes they go agin you, as your post shows. Refs have better training today than they've ever done and they're fitter than they've ever been. But they'll always make mistakes because they're human beings, not robots. I'm sure if I was reffing a game between two professional football teams I'd get a lot more wrong than most refs do. Also the importance of "right" and "wrong" are often in the eye of the beholder. A couple of weeks ago the Carlisle manager said the ref was awful, when there was barely a murmur from our side of the fence. I couldn't get to that game but I assume some questionable decisions went our way. We accept those and move on but somehow those that go against us seem more important.
Sorry Den couldn't resist. It was a laughable decision this one though. Agree that it balances out.

Also I agree with NewburyMike I think Ben Gladwin will have a very bright future. Only a 20 minute cameo last night but he reminded of how Yaya Toure plays for Man City. Similar build but looked quick and has good feet. Very very promising, I would go as far as saying maybe the next Austin we've all been waiting for, albeit a different position.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Haha! Wilesy, I've never said refs don't make mistakes. I just don't see the point in dwelling on them. Sometimes the mistakes go for you, sometimes they go agin you, as your post shows. Refs have better training today than they've ever done and they're fitter than they've ever been. But they'll always make mistakes because they're human beings, not robots. I'm sure if I was reffing a game between two professional football teams I'd get a lot more wrong than most refs do. Also the importance of "right" and "wrong" are often in the eye of the beholder. A couple of weeks ago the Carlisle manager said the ref was awful, when there was barely a murmur from our side of the fence. I couldn't get to that game but I assume some questionable decisions went our way. We accept those and move on but somehow those that go against us seem more important.[/p][/quote]Sorry Den couldn't resist. It was a laughable decision this one though. Agree that it balances out. Also I agree with NewburyMike I think Ben Gladwin will have a very bright future. Only a 20 minute cameo last night but he reminded of how Yaya Toure plays for Man City. Similar build but looked quick and has good feet. Very very promising, I would go as far as saying maybe the next Austin we've all been waiting for, albeit a different position. Wilesy

9:14am Wed 11 Dec 13

uruguay whitey the red says...

its very clear that we struggle without 2 up top,ajose is honest and hardworking while I feel for dany stuck out wide,certainly not his best position.will have to replace ranger very quickly.we have to score 2 because we will always concede.
its very clear that we struggle without 2 up top,ajose is honest and hardworking while I feel for dany stuck out wide,certainly not his best position.will have to replace ranger very quickly.we have to score 2 because we will always concede. uruguay whitey the red

9:35am Wed 11 Dec 13

Psychedelic Syd says...

Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field.

We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.
Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field. We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere. Psychedelic Syd

10:08am Wed 11 Dec 13

super red says...

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field. We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.
Not quite sure what's happened to kasim of late. After his early season rave reviews and other teams taking interest he seems to have gone off the boil. Different people react in different ways, however rather than galvanise him he seems to have rested on his laurels.
[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote: Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field. We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.[/p][/quote]Not quite sure what's happened to kasim of late. After his early season rave reviews and other teams taking interest he seems to have gone off the boil. Different people react in different ways, however rather than galvanise him he seems to have rested on his laurels. super red

10:23am Wed 11 Dec 13

matt09 says...

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field.

We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.
I guess you were not at the Carlisle game then? It took their equalizer to get the tempo back in to our game. From the resulting kickoff to their equalizer we had a massive surge of energy and did dominate.
a young team Is always going to blow hot and cold - could be worse, we could all be Man U fans!
I do feel playing one up front, especially if not a target man is going to be hard, the midfield have to be totally on it to create chances and get forward in numbers.
At the Carlisle game people around me were getting on at the team for not getting the ball in the box quicker but if we only have Nicky upfront and in the box then whats the point crossing the ball in when in league one he is up against 2 massive bruts. Only when Nile plays can we do that - and that seems more infrequent as the weeks go by. With our team we have to have a passing on the ground build up, the trick is the right players getting involved in it, ie give it to Pritch, Mason, Mass, Kas. Hall and Ward pass it short to one of the above as quickly as possible!!!!
For me the teams league position is better than I expected. The only big disappointment was the FA Cup, other than that all things considered we are doing pretty well!
[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote: Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field. We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.[/p][/quote]I guess you were not at the Carlisle game then? It took their equalizer to get the tempo back in to our game. From the resulting kickoff to their equalizer we had a massive surge of energy and did dominate. a young team Is always going to blow hot and cold - could be worse, we could all be Man U fans! I do feel playing one up front, especially if not a target man is going to be hard, the midfield have to be totally on it to create chances and get forward in numbers. At the Carlisle game people around me were getting on at the team for not getting the ball in the box quicker but if we only have Nicky upfront and in the box then whats the point crossing the ball in when in league one he is up against 2 massive bruts. Only when Nile plays can we do that - and that seems more infrequent as the weeks go by. With our team we have to have a passing on the ground build up, the trick is the right players getting involved in it, ie give it to Pritch, Mason, Mass, Kas. Hall and Ward pass it short to one of the above as quickly as possible!!!! For me the teams league position is better than I expected. The only big disappointment was the FA Cup, other than that all things considered we are doing pretty well! matt09

10:27am Wed 11 Dec 13

Cleuso says...

Haydonender wrote:
Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games.

Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era
Whilst I agree in part with the "too deep" comment particularly in the second half, the first 20/25 minutes was sublime but some of the comments on BBC Wilts after the game were ridiculous, calling for Cooper's sacking and criticising Belfords performance in the first 90 minutes...clearly they were wind up merchants with an agenda other than STFC at heart. Why oh why do we have to put up with that sort of nonsense.

If they had been commenting on that refereeing performance I could understand the criticism, as once again I leave a game shaking my head at the sheer incompetance of his display which had the consistency of an ageing yoghurt.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Poor last night, dropped far too deep and became too negative in second half as we have done a few times this season. Hopefully Cooper will learn from it, we don't have a solid enough defence to sit back for 45 minutes, need to keep the pressure up on the opponents. Belford did well in the shootout and Ajose chased everything but can't say anyone else stood out for me. Will need to be better in our next few games. Shame about Rooney, glimpses of talent but nothing more than that. Another expensive failure from PDC's era[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree in part with the "too deep" comment particularly in the second half, the first 20/25 minutes was sublime but some of the comments on BBC Wilts after the game were ridiculous, calling for Cooper's sacking and criticising Belfords performance in the first 90 minutes...clearly they were wind up merchants with an agenda other than STFC at heart. Why oh why do we have to put up with that sort of nonsense. If they had been commenting on that refereeing performance I could understand the criticism, as once again I leave a game shaking my head at the sheer incompetance of his display which had the consistency of an ageing yoghurt. Cleuso

10:30am Wed 11 Dec 13

Cleuso says...

Northern Section

1st leg: Fleetwood Town v Chesterfield
2nd leg: Chesterfield v Fleetwood Town

Southern Section

1st leg: Peterborough United v Swindon Town
2nd leg: Swindon Town v Peterborough United

Area Final first leg ties are due to be played during the week commencing 3rd February 2014.

Area Final second leg ties are due to be played during the week commencing 17th February 2014.
Northern Section 1st leg: Fleetwood Town v Chesterfield 2nd leg: Chesterfield v Fleetwood Town Southern Section 1st leg: Peterborough United v Swindon Town 2nd leg: Swindon Town v Peterborough United Area Final first leg ties are due to be played during the week commencing 3rd February 2014. Area Final second leg ties are due to be played during the week commencing 17th February 2014. Cleuso

11:07am Wed 11 Dec 13

oo-r-ya? says...

Some in the Town End were giving Belford stick for continually kicking toward the wing and sometimes into touch. They couldn't see that that was what he had been told to do as N'Guessan was playing on the wing to keep the high balls away from their big centre-halfs. There was no point launching it down the middle to Ajose was there? Their forwards were pressing our back line to force him to launch it long. Fodders used to do that towards Ritchie as he was so good in the air for a little man. Fodders got stick for that too. Regardless as to whether they could see the tactic or not how did they think it was going to help a young man starting out in his career by booing him?
Some in the Town End were giving Belford stick for continually kicking toward the wing and sometimes into touch. They couldn't see that that was what he had been told to do as N'Guessan was playing on the wing to keep the high balls away from their big centre-halfs. There was no point launching it down the middle to Ajose was there? Their forwards were pressing our back line to force him to launch it long. Fodders used to do that towards Ritchie as he was so good in the air for a little man. Fodders got stick for that too. Regardless as to whether they could see the tactic or not how did they think it was going to help a young man starting out in his career by booing him? oo-r-ya?

11:24am Wed 11 Dec 13

mike1990 says...

Someone tell Cooper it's a 90 min game,played well in the first half,rubbish in the second and a better side than Stevenage would have caned us in that second half,big test at Bramell Lane so please play for 90+ mins or we all know how it will end and that will be with no points for us.
Someone tell Cooper it's a 90 min game,played well in the first half,rubbish in the second and a better side than Stevenage would have caned us in that second half,big test at Bramell Lane so please play for 90+ mins or we all know how it will end and that will be with no points for us. mike1990

11:34am Wed 11 Dec 13

Psychedelic Syd says...

matt09 wrote:
Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field.

We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.
I guess you were not at the Carlisle game then? It took their equalizer to get the tempo back in to our game. From the resulting kickoff to their equalizer we had a massive surge of energy and did dominate.
a young team Is always going to blow hot and cold - could be worse, we could all be Man U fans!
I do feel playing one up front, especially if not a target man is going to be hard, the midfield have to be totally on it to create chances and get forward in numbers.
At the Carlisle game people around me were getting on at the team for not getting the ball in the box quicker but if we only have Nicky upfront and in the box then whats the point crossing the ball in when in league one he is up against 2 massive bruts. Only when Nile plays can we do that - and that seems more infrequent as the weeks go by. With our team we have to have a passing on the ground build up, the trick is the right players getting involved in it, ie give it to Pritch, Mason, Mass, Kas. Hall and Ward pass it short to one of the above as quickly as possible!!!!
For me the teams league position is better than I expected. The only big disappointment was the FA Cup, other than that all things considered we are doing pretty well!
Hi Matt yes I was at the Carlisle game, been to all the home matches and a good few away games. Yes they showed a bit of heart in that game and against Bristol City but I just don't feel that constant sense of energy and passion that has been present in our most highly achieving sides over the years. Overall I'm pleased with our league position too and when we play well we look wonderful. It's the games like Shrewsbury and Preston away that grate though. I accept we're always going to lose some matches but in games like that the lack of fight/drive/passion has been all too apparent.
[quote][p][bold]matt09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote: Our midfield blew hot and cold last night. Luongo had a poor game and the others weren't far behind, they just seemed to fade as the second half progressed and allowed Stevenage to come right back into it. Kasim looked fantastic in our early games but recently has looked slow and off the pace, hence his risky late tackles. Ajose was superb and ran himself into the ground last night, a few others could have picked up on his example because we didn't press them enough high up the field. We have some very good players but I'm not convinced by their fire and passion. When other teams score against us you don't see that great surge of energy and desire to dominate and get back into the game. Perhaps it's our considered passing game that gives that slightly cold impression but clubs like Man Utd. (well until this season!) always come roaring back and combine quick passing with energy and full-blooded commitment. For all our possession and slick passing we seem to be missing a bit of heart somewhere.[/p][/quote]I guess you were not at the Carlisle game then? It took their equalizer to get the tempo back in to our game. From the resulting kickoff to their equalizer we had a massive surge of energy and did dominate. a young team Is always going to blow hot and cold - could be worse, we could all be Man U fans! I do feel playing one up front, especially if not a target man is going to be hard, the midfield have to be totally on it to create chances and get forward in numbers. At the Carlisle game people around me were getting on at the team for not getting the ball in the box quicker but if we only have Nicky upfront and in the box then whats the point crossing the ball in when in league one he is up against 2 massive bruts. Only when Nile plays can we do that - and that seems more infrequent as the weeks go by. With our team we have to have a passing on the ground build up, the trick is the right players getting involved in it, ie give it to Pritch, Mason, Mass, Kas. Hall and Ward pass it short to one of the above as quickly as possible!!!! For me the teams league position is better than I expected. The only big disappointment was the FA Cup, other than that all things considered we are doing pretty well![/p][/quote]Hi Matt yes I was at the Carlisle game, been to all the home matches and a good few away games. Yes they showed a bit of heart in that game and against Bristol City but I just don't feel that constant sense of energy and passion that has been present in our most highly achieving sides over the years. Overall I'm pleased with our league position too and when we play well we look wonderful. It's the games like Shrewsbury and Preston away that grate though. I accept we're always going to lose some matches but in games like that the lack of fight/drive/passion has been all too apparent. Psychedelic Syd

11:52am Wed 11 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking.

Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff.
Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking. Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff. Oi Den!

12:21pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Stilloyal says...

Will Posh allow Ajose to play, anyone know ?
Will Posh allow Ajose to play, anyone know ? Stilloyal

12:34pm Wed 11 Dec 13

matt09 says...

I haven't been to a game that Belford has played in yet. People who have what is the general consensus? There has been signs Wes may go in Jan if the price is right so is he ready to step in?
As for Ajose playing against Posh history says no. I presume they are paying a load of his wages still so why would they want him to? seeing as we are in the same league and always going to play them I guess It was part of the deal to block him playing against his parent club.
I haven't been to a game that Belford has played in yet. People who have what is the general consensus? There has been signs Wes may go in Jan if the price is right so is he ready to step in? As for Ajose playing against Posh history says no. I presume they are paying a load of his wages still so why would they want him to? seeing as we are in the same league and always going to play them I guess It was part of the deal to block him playing against his parent club. matt09

12:51pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

Stilloyal wrote:
Will Posh allow Ajose to play, anyone know ?
Would think definitely not, but can't take that as gospel from me. Would seem very unlikely.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: Will Posh allow Ajose to play, anyone know ?[/p][/quote]Would think definitely not, but can't take that as gospel from me. Would seem very unlikely. Swindon1984

3:08pm Wed 11 Dec 13

the don69 says...

Well chaps now we got that Pot game out the way! we have some really tough games over the next month and after those we'll have a very good idea of how the season will develop,be very interesting to see how many points we'll get from our next 6 games?????????
Well chaps now we got that Pot game out the way! we have some really tough games over the next month and after those we'll have a very good idea of how the season will develop,be very interesting to see how many points we'll get from our next 6 games????????? the don69

3:52pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Another view says...

matt09 says...
I haven't been to a game that Belford has played in yet. People who have what is the general consensus? There has been signs Wes may go in Jan if the price is right so is he ready to step in?
As for Ajose playing against Posh history says no. I presume they are paying a load of his wages still so why would they want him to? seeing as we are in the same league and always going to play them I guess It was part of the deal to block him playing against his parent club.

- In the games I've seen him play he looks good commanding his area considering his lack of experience, and he is also pretty good with crosses. He looks more promising than Wes in these areas, though it's difficult to match Wes as a shot-stopper. If we have to let Wes go I don't think there would be any need to panic.
matt09 says... I haven't been to a game that Belford has played in yet. People who have what is the general consensus? There has been signs Wes may go in Jan if the price is right so is he ready to step in? As for Ajose playing against Posh history says no. I presume they are paying a load of his wages still so why would they want him to? seeing as we are in the same league and always going to play them I guess It was part of the deal to block him playing against his parent club. - In the games I've seen him play he looks good commanding his area considering his lack of experience, and he is also pretty good with crosses. He looks more promising than Wes in these areas, though it's difficult to match Wes as a shot-stopper. If we have to let Wes go I don't think there would be any need to panic. Another view

10:27pm Wed 11 Dec 13

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking.

Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff.
Well spotted Den and, as you say, absolutely cracking stuff. A lot of good players on the pitch but Rogers and Rioch we're stand outs for me. Interesting too to see Thomas playing on the left which I assume was only because Trollope was injured? Also a bit surprising to see Rogers preferring to use his right foot, my memory told me he mainly used his left but he was obviously a bit of a 'cut in and shoot guy' like Andreas Townsend. Great to see that vision, skill and acceleration again. What a player!

I'm pretty sure I was there in the family stand and definitely remember an argument about staying up to watch it on motd. It was a bit special for a 3rd divi team to get the cameras in those day.

Cheers Den, you've made my day.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking. Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff.[/p][/quote]Well spotted Den and, as you say, absolutely cracking stuff. A lot of good players on the pitch but Rogers and Rioch we're stand outs for me. Interesting too to see Thomas playing on the left which I assume was only because Trollope was injured? Also a bit surprising to see Rogers preferring to use his right foot, my memory told me he mainly used his left but he was obviously a bit of a 'cut in and shoot guy' like Andreas Townsend. Great to see that vision, skill and acceleration again. What a player! I'm pretty sure I was there in the family stand and definitely remember an argument about staying up to watch it on motd. It was a bit special for a 3rd divi team to get the cameras in those day. Cheers Den, you've made my day. mancrobin

10:42pm Wed 11 Dec 13

joey butler says...

Time for bed Wizard please, you made your first post at 5.49AM this morning and are still going on the other thread this evening, as Chish and Drip.

Night Night Wizard and don't let the bed bugs bite!
Time for bed Wizard please, you made your first post at 5.49AM this morning and are still going on the other thread this evening, as Chish and Drip. Night Night Wizard and don't let the bed bugs bite! joey butler

9:40am Thu 12 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking.

Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff.
Well spotted Den and, as you say, absolutely cracking stuff. A lot of good players on the pitch but Rogers and Rioch we're stand outs for me. Interesting too to see Thomas playing on the left which I assume was only because Trollope was injured? Also a bit surprising to see Rogers preferring to use his right foot, my memory told me he mainly used his left but he was obviously a bit of a 'cut in and shoot guy' like Andreas Townsend. Great to see that vision, skill and acceleration again. What a player!

I'm pretty sure I was there in the family stand and definitely remember an argument about staying up to watch it on motd. It was a bit special for a 3rd divi team to get the cameras in those day.

Cheers Den, you've made my day.
Glad to be of service manc!

My memory of the great Don is that his shooting was superb with both feet, often the way with players who have such good balance. Good point about Thomas. I didn't twig that.

Can you imagine both managers being interviewed together after any game now?
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Syd, I think you sum up our team very well. There's a lot to be admired but that fire is definitely lacking. Off topic, those who were around in 68/69 - and maybe some who weren't - might be interested to know that there's a YouTube video of our home match with Luton in that season. Poor quality black and white picture, terrible pitch, strong wind - and great football. Some classic examples of the strengths of that team - full length saves from Downsborough, Burrows colossal in the air, Thomas's telescopic legs in the tackle and Rogers was, well, Rogers. There is even a nice interview with Danny Williams and Alec Stock (then Luton manager) at the end. Strangely enough, neither of them mentioned the word that seems to crop up in most interviews with managers these days - "decisions". I know I was at the game but couldn't remember a thing about it. Cracking stuff.[/p][/quote]Well spotted Den and, as you say, absolutely cracking stuff. A lot of good players on the pitch but Rogers and Rioch we're stand outs for me. Interesting too to see Thomas playing on the left which I assume was only because Trollope was injured? Also a bit surprising to see Rogers preferring to use his right foot, my memory told me he mainly used his left but he was obviously a bit of a 'cut in and shoot guy' like Andreas Townsend. Great to see that vision, skill and acceleration again. What a player! I'm pretty sure I was there in the family stand and definitely remember an argument about staying up to watch it on motd. It was a bit special for a 3rd divi team to get the cameras in those day. Cheers Den, you've made my day.[/p][/quote]Glad to be of service manc! My memory of the great Don is that his shooting was superb with both feet, often the way with players who have such good balance. Good point about Thomas. I didn't twig that. Can you imagine both managers being interviewed together after any game now? Oi Den!

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