Swindon Town chairman to step aside when takeover goes through

Swindon Town chairman Sir Williams Patey

Swindon Town chairman Sir Williams Patey

First published in Sport The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy sports editor, awarren@swindonadvertiser.co.uk, @AndyWarren_

OUTGOING chairman Sir William Patey believes he will have succeeded in what he set out to achieve if the takeover of Swindon Town is completed today, as the former diplomat prepares to walk away from the County Ground.

The consortium led by Jed McCrory is still waiting to have its takeover of the Robins rubber stamped by the Football League, which could happen as soon as today when they travel to Preston to talk the League through their financial model for the club.

Patey, a former British ambassador to Iraq and Afghanistan, was brought in by outgoing owner Andrew Black to facilitate the sale of the club, and will resign his post the minute the takeover is completed.

The 59-year-old sees no reason why the Football League will not ratify the takeover, and will be pleased when his work in Wiltshire is done.

“As soon as the Football League approval is through and the transfer is done, my resignation takes immediate effect, then the new consortium will appoint their own chairman and their own board,” he said.

“We hope the Football League approves the sale, and we don’t see any reason why they shouldn’t because the new owners are committed to taking Swindon forward.

“That is what we set out to achieve, and the club will move forward on a new basis which is basically debt free, and that would be a big success in our book.

“I will be pleased if it all goes through, and we keep our fingers crossed it does.

“We are pleased it has come about in the end, even though the fans have gone through a period of anxiety and uncertainty, and if it is all done then Swindon will be a lot stronger in the long run.”

Patey has been impressed with McCrory and his consortium, and believes they offer the best chance for the club to move forward in the future.

“They seem generally interested in football and Swindon, and some of them have Swindon connections, and they have experience in the property side as well which is important given the redevelopment of the stadium has been planned for a while, so hopefully that will all go forward,” he said.

“I am sure Swindon will emerge from this stronger, especially considering where it has come from, after Andrew Black saved it from administration some years ago.

“I don’t want to get carried away with a state of euphoria or anything like that, but they have certainly ticked all the boxes.”

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6:10am Wed 13 Feb 13

pdc does wot he wants says...

lets hope for some good news later today then! but this is swindon and nothing is ever that simple.
bad results all round last night only donny dropped points
lets hope for some good news later today then! but this is swindon and nothing is ever that simple. bad results all round last night only donny dropped points pdc does wot he wants
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6:10am Wed 13 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow.

I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over.....

I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season......

How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year.....

But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!!

Fingers Crossed today.

Louis :-))))
Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow. I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over..... I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season...... How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year..... But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!! Fingers Crossed today. Louis :-)))) louiscassius
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6:14am Wed 13 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

louiscassius wrote:
Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow.

I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over.....

I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season......

How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year.....

But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!!

Fingers Crossed today.

Louis :-))))
"God"........

Thank 2God"....

Sorry.....half alseep.....
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow. I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over..... I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season...... How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year..... But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!! Fingers Crossed today. Louis :-))))[/p][/quote]"God"........ Thank 2God".... Sorry.....half alseep..... louiscassius
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6:19am Wed 13 Feb 13

mattsingapore says...

I wonder if it would be better for there to be silence for a few days - no articles at all - until something newsworthy appeared!
I wonder if it would be better for there to be silence for a few days - no articles at all - until something newsworthy appeared! mattsingapore
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6:31am Wed 13 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

mattsingapore wrote:
I wonder if it would be better for there to be silence for a few days - no articles at all - until something newsworthy appeared!
Agreed........I think most of us new he would walk after.....few weeks back i think the story broke......

Maybe nothing is best for now......
[quote][p][bold]mattsingapore[/bold] wrote: I wonder if it would be better for there to be silence for a few days - no articles at all - until something newsworthy appeared![/p][/quote]Agreed........I think most of us new he would walk after.....few weeks back i think the story broke...... Maybe nothing is best for now...... louiscassius
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6:32am Wed 13 Feb 13

grove red says...

That is what we set out to achieve, and the club will move forward on a new basis which is basically debt free not total debt free then. looking forward to what the new people have to say when its done and dusted. I see pack scored last night and got an assits for bensons goal, hope that deal can be redone.
That is what we set out to achieve, and the club will move forward on a new basis which is basically debt free not total debt free then. looking forward to what the new people have to say when its done and dusted. I see pack scored last night and got an assits for bensons goal, hope that deal can be redone. grove red
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6:36am Wed 13 Feb 13

EastleazeRed says...

Good riddance , total waste of space !
Good riddance , total waste of space ! EastleazeRed
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6:44am Wed 13 Feb 13

smirg kcab says...

It's the 13th
Get ready for melt down when it goes titsup
Onwards and upward
It's the 13th Get ready for melt down when it goes titsup Onwards and upward smirg kcab
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6:47am Wed 13 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

Can see why the term 'former dipolmat' was used for him, did himself no favours here with what he related back to the fans and press..... but alls said time will tell on the deal.
As much as the Championship beckons, I personally see it better to consolidate in L1 - get over all these issues we've had and build on a good foundation and not be so beholden to a benefactor like AB.
Can see why the term 'former dipolmat' was used for him, did himself no favours here with what he related back to the fans and press..... but alls said time will tell on the deal. As much as the Championship beckons, I personally see it better to consolidate in L1 - get over all these issues we've had and build on a good foundation and not be so beholden to a benefactor like AB. Chish and Fips
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6:55am Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done.
However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.
We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done. However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched. the wizard
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6:56am Wed 13 Feb 13

Lazaat says...

For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today!

The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!!
For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!! Lazaat
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7:00am Wed 13 Feb 13

Lazaat says...

the wizard wrote:
We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done.
However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.
I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done. However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.[/p][/quote]I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP. Lazaat
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7:03am Wed 13 Feb 13

Last step says...

Is this Patey's first football related appointment? I sincerely hope for the supporters of other clubs that it is his last.

Diplomat? Don't make me laugh. Good riddance.
Is this Patey's first football related appointment? I sincerely hope for the supporters of other clubs that it is his last. Diplomat? Don't make me laugh. Good riddance. Last step
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7:03am Wed 13 Feb 13

fredi says...

"that is what we set out to achieve".....so we are left to guess whether he is lying now or when he was appointed, when we were assured that nothing had changed, the three year plan was intact with funding assured for the push to the championship. Being a diplomat, he will evade the truth, but it would be interesting to know if Black deliberately misled him or he deliberately misled the fans. I am sure he will be paid well for keeping silent.
"that is what we set out to achieve".....so we are left to guess whether he is lying now or when he was appointed, when we were assured that nothing had changed, the three year plan was intact with funding assured for the push to the championship. Being a diplomat, he will evade the truth, but it would be interesting to know if Black deliberately misled him or he deliberately misled the fans. I am sure he will be paid well for keeping silent. fredi
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7:05am Wed 13 Feb 13

Calcio Robin says...

It's all tightening up at the top of league, most of the top teams where in top gear last night, just shows how valuable the two points dropped on Saturday where. But I still have faith in STFC, that all will go well today "or soon" with the consortium,
and then we can rejoice with a good win at Tranmere next Tuesday!!!!!!
It's all tightening up at the top of league, most of the top teams where in top gear last night, just shows how valuable the two points dropped on Saturday where. But I still have faith in STFC, that all will go well today "or soon" with the consortium, and then we can rejoice with a good win at Tranmere next Tuesday!!!!!! Calcio Robin
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7:05am Wed 13 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Step forward Jeremy Wray as the new chairman
Step forward Jeremy Wray as the new chairman Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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7:06am Wed 13 Feb 13

gingerdad says...

Ritchie gone. Bournemouth top. Was this what they set out to achieve?
Ritchie gone. Bournemouth top. Was this what they set out to achieve? gingerdad
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7:08am Wed 13 Feb 13

U REDS says...

interesting comments about marlon pack by manager mark yates last night.
http://www.thisisglo
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l#axzz2Kl8oLRWw
interesting comments about marlon pack by manager mark yates last night. http://www.thisisglo ucestershire.co.uk/C heltenham-Town-video -Mark-Yates-2-1-win- Southend/story-18127 729-detail/story.htm l#axzz2Kl8oLRWw U REDS
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7:11am Wed 13 Feb 13

Stickshaker says...

Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map?
Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map? Stickshaker
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7:27am Wed 13 Feb 13

dacoo says...

anyone else concerned by the fact he says we'll be stronger in the long term.............the little we know about this slippery b*stard I'd have liked to have had some reassurance about the short-term too!
anyone else concerned by the fact he says we'll be stronger in the long term.............the little we know about this slippery b*stard I'd have liked to have had some reassurance about the short-term too! dacoo
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7:35am Wed 13 Feb 13

Calcio Robin says...

Great shout Ollie on JW at least he would be a great go between the board, PDC "he would be happy as his pal would be back" and the supporters. But somehow new board will have there own man, but whoever he is, he's not like Mr " invisible" Patey,
Great shout Ollie on JW at least he would be a great go between the board, PDC "he would be happy as his pal would be back" and the supporters. But somehow new board will have there own man, but whoever he is, he's not like Mr " invisible" Patey, Calcio Robin
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7:39am Wed 13 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

Lazaat wrote:
the wizard wrote:
We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done.
However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.
I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP.
Yes he did do what he was brought in for but then so could The Milky Bar Kid, providing he was back in Town.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done. However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.[/p][/quote]I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP.[/p][/quote]Yes he did do what he was brought in for but then so could The Milky Bar Kid, providing he was back in Town. NewburyRobin
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7:41am Wed 13 Feb 13

Redhouse Red says...

Take the club forwards on a non loss making basis

Oh dear. Bye bye success. Hello austerity.
Take the club forwards on a non loss making basis Oh dear. Bye bye success. Hello austerity. Redhouse Red
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7:44am Wed 13 Feb 13

Helpme234 says...

Stickshaker wrote:
Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map?
There's a job needing doing at the other end of the A420.

What grates with me is that the guy seems proud of what he's achieved, but at the end of the day he was working for Black's benefit not the club's.
[quote][p][bold]Stickshaker[/bold] wrote: Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map?[/p][/quote]There's a job needing doing at the other end of the A420. What grates with me is that the guy seems proud of what he's achieved, but at the end of the day he was working for Black's benefit not the club's. Helpme234
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7:53am Wed 13 Feb 13

ciclosporindorset says...

This all goes to show how having a single or dominant benefactor can lead to problems when their own circumstances change. I feel the last 18 months have been exciting yet expectations - mine,PDC, fans, are raised to an unsustainable level. I feel I have woken up to reality and yet we are on the threshold of a new dream. A group - not a dominant invester - want to invest. We have 18 players almost universally better than the (larger) squad of 2 years ago. We have a larger fan base, we are fourth in the league so a better place than for many many years. My hope for the future is that as a club we can nurture the likes of Thompson 1 & 2, Storey, Oakley, Bedwell, retain an experienced core and regain the strategy of Fitton around sustainable development. We are a more attractive proposition for incoming loanees. The ground redevelopment is mentioned above and many above cannot see the opportunities mentioned by Patey above. It is not necessarily a new set of goals but perhaps it was time for a different strategy. I doubt that Patey will be too troubled by the inevitable flack. He is not that sort. He got - hopefully today - a win-win - from a difficult position 3 momnths ago.
This all goes to show how having a single or dominant benefactor can lead to problems when their own circumstances change. I feel the last 18 months have been exciting yet expectations - mine,PDC, fans, are raised to an unsustainable level. I feel I have woken up to reality and yet we are on the threshold of a new dream. A group - not a dominant invester - want to invest. We have 18 players almost universally better than the (larger) squad of 2 years ago. We have a larger fan base, we are fourth in the league so a better place than for many many years. My hope for the future is that as a club we can nurture the likes of Thompson 1 & 2, Storey, Oakley, Bedwell, retain an experienced core and regain the strategy of Fitton around sustainable development. We are a more attractive proposition for incoming loanees. The ground redevelopment is mentioned above and many above cannot see the opportunities mentioned by Patey above. It is not necessarily a new set of goals but perhaps it was time for a different strategy. I doubt that Patey will be too troubled by the inevitable flack. He is not that sort. He got - hopefully today - a win-win - from a difficult position 3 momnths ago. ciclosporindorset
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7:56am Wed 13 Feb 13

newburymike says...

I wonder how much the eBay fees were?
I wonder how much the eBay fees were? newburymike
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7:59am Wed 13 Feb 13

umpcah says...

My breath remains well baited !
My breath remains well baited ! umpcah
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8:01am Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Lazaat wrote:
For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today!

The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!!
Good post Lazaat, why would anyone not want to keep up to date with what is happening at the CG at such a crticial time of the season for STFC.

Apart from Donnie draw last nights results the wins for the other 4 contenders could not have been worse for us, with Yeovil also entering the fray, who goes up is anybodies guess. I said on Monday 4 draws and 1 win from our last 5 games will not win promotion. All those game were winnable, but we only managed 3 goals for those 7 points from 15. The team without Ritchie and the two loanees are simply not good enough as we all witnessed on Saturday, we seem to have a mental block to find a way back after conceeding a goal.

It looks like the gods have been against us with the transfer embargos, the injuries, the sickness, the capitulation of the out going board at such a critical time, no other team in the league has had to cope with such adversities and even though we have thrown away so many points at home that should have seen us flying at the top, to still be fourth is commendable.

Without doubt we have a tough run in with our away games, but at least 6 of them will be 6 pointers. If we were to win all these games we will go up, if we only draw or lose we won't. Our destiny is still in our own hands, but until we get at least 3 loanees in, or Collins, Rooney and Williams start scoring again, it will be a tough call.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!![/p][/quote]Good post Lazaat, why would anyone not want to keep up to date with what is happening at the CG at such a crticial time of the season for STFC. Apart from Donnie draw last nights results the wins for the other 4 contenders could not have been worse for us, with Yeovil also entering the fray, who goes up is anybodies guess. I said on Monday 4 draws and 1 win from our last 5 games will not win promotion. All those game were winnable, but we only managed 3 goals for those 7 points from 15. The team without Ritchie and the two loanees are simply not good enough as we all witnessed on Saturday, we seem to have a mental block to find a way back after conceeding a goal. It looks like the gods have been against us with the transfer embargos, the injuries, the sickness, the capitulation of the out going board at such a critical time, no other team in the league has had to cope with such adversities and even though we have thrown away so many points at home that should have seen us flying at the top, to still be fourth is commendable. Without doubt we have a tough run in with our away games, but at least 6 of them will be 6 pointers. If we were to win all these games we will go up, if we only draw or lose we won't. Our destiny is still in our own hands, but until we get at least 3 loanees in, or Collins, Rooney and Williams start scoring again, it will be a tough call. old town robin
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8:05am Wed 13 Feb 13

Blazing Riff says...

louiscassius wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow.

I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over.....

I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season......

How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year.....

But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!!

Fingers Crossed today.


Louis :-))))
"God"........

Thank 2God"....

Sorry.....half alseep.....
'Gog' does it for me!
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow. I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over..... I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season...... How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year..... But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!! Fingers Crossed today. Louis :-))))[/p][/quote]"God"........ Thank 2God".... Sorry.....half alseep.....[/p][/quote]'Gog' does it for me! Blazing Riff
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8:12am Wed 13 Feb 13

umpcah says...

gingerdad wrote:
Ritchie gone. Bournemouth top. Was this what they set out to achieve?
Seems like it ! Anyone now backing Swindon for automatic promotion this year just has to have a screw loose.
[quote][p][bold]gingerdad[/bold] wrote: Ritchie gone. Bournemouth top. Was this what they set out to achieve?[/p][/quote]Seems like it ! Anyone now backing Swindon for automatic promotion this year just has to have a screw loose. umpcah
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8:24am Wed 13 Feb 13

London Red says...

Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it!
.
Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand
.
Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games
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The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point
.
Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push
.
Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p!
Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it! . Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand . Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games . The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point . Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push . Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p! London Red
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8:25am Wed 13 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

Well done Mr Patey. You have been a resounding success. Your one aim was to sell the club, which as yet hasn't actually happened and because of your dithering we have had to sell our best player and you could (and maybe will) have cost us our manager. What a triumph!

I shouldn't start patting yourself on he back just yet mate.
Well done Mr Patey. You have been a resounding success. Your one aim was to sell the club, which as yet hasn't actually happened and because of your dithering we have had to sell our best player and you could (and maybe will) have cost us our manager. What a triumph! I shouldn't start patting yourself on he back just yet mate. Pewsham Red
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8:28am Wed 13 Feb 13

mikes0708 says...

Patey was only bought in to sell the club. He has no interest at all in Swindon, dislikes Di Canio and to top it all is a QPR fan. Instead of pushing through a deal before the transfer window he pushed off to the Carribean for most of December -good riddance!!!
Patey was only bought in to sell the club. He has no interest at all in Swindon, dislikes Di Canio and to top it all is a QPR fan. Instead of pushing through a deal before the transfer window he pushed off to the Carribean for most of December -good riddance!!! mikes0708
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8:33am Wed 13 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

London Red wrote:
Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it!
.
Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand
.
Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games
.
The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point
.
Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push
.
Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p!
Stop being so bloody sarcastic.

Do you think we will be top 2? If so, well done you, but the rest of us who are a little more realistic, see it as being unlikely at the moment.

Don't forget, we haven't got Pack, Green and BWP, so they can hardly be thrown into the equation just yet.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it! . Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand . Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games . The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point . Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push . Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p![/p][/quote]Stop being so bloody sarcastic. Do you think we will be top 2? If so, well done you, but the rest of us who are a little more realistic, see it as being unlikely at the moment. Don't forget, we haven't got Pack, Green and BWP, so they can hardly be thrown into the equation just yet. Pewsham Red
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8:35am Wed 13 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

London Red wrote:
Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it!
.
Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand
.
Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games
.
The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point
.
Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push
.
Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p!
Thanks LR for posting this.

I mean it.
It's all about where we go from here (the next few days).

I need some positive thoughts after the past few weeks (you may have noticed) :)
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it! . Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand . Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games . The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point . Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push . Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p![/p][/quote]Thanks LR for posting this. I mean it. It's all about where we go from here (the next few days). I need some positive thoughts after the past few weeks (you may have noticed) :) TheDukeOfBanbury
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8:36am Wed 13 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

Lazaat wrote:
For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today!

The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!!
...guess we can't expect them to drop points every match but Donny dropping 2 was a big plus as the league is now in our hands - win every game and we win the league!...seemples!
:-)
.
We do need to get a couple of decent wins under our belts after so many draws but it will be interesting to see how Bournemouth handle life at the top especially as given their fixtures they've the easiest of run ins on paper.
....having said that we all know there is rarely a trouble free end of season and perm any 6 from 7...it seems....is going to make for an exciting time.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!![/p][/quote]...guess we can't expect them to drop points every match but Donny dropping 2 was a big plus as the league is now in our hands - win every game and we win the league!...seemples! :-) . We do need to get a couple of decent wins under our belts after so many draws but it will be interesting to see how Bournemouth handle life at the top especially as given their fixtures they've the easiest of run ins on paper. ....having said that we all know there is rarely a trouble free end of season and perm any 6 from 7...it seems....is going to make for an exciting time. SAPFanSTFC
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8:39am Wed 13 Feb 13

LeGod says...

Patey is definetly not diplomatic and that probably why he's a former diplomat more like a former DiploPrat.

I get the impression he's got no time for football fans and football in general so he wont give a toss anyway.

The sooner he goes the better in my book.
Patey is definetly not diplomatic and that probably why he's a former diplomat more like a former DiploPrat. I get the impression he's got no time for football fans and football in general so he wont give a toss anyway. The sooner he goes the better in my book. LeGod
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8:44am Wed 13 Feb 13

Oxon-Red says...

To be fair to Patey, his job was never going to win him friends. Is he a Football Club Chairman, no, but his job has been to find new investors and I wonder how others would have handled this !!!

What would you guys have said ?

Think about it because it is not easy.

Hopefully it all goes through and we will get the chance to strenghten a now threadbare squad which has suffered from injury and illness. Most teams have hiccups at some point, we may have just had ours.

Hoping all goes through soon, fingers well crossed.

COYMR
To be fair to Patey, his job was never going to win him friends. Is he a Football Club Chairman, no, but his job has been to find new investors and I wonder how others would have handled this !!! What would you guys have said ? Think about it because it is not easy. Hopefully it all goes through and we will get the chance to strenghten a now threadbare squad which has suffered from injury and illness. Most teams have hiccups at some point, we may have just had ours. Hoping all goes through soon, fingers well crossed. COYMR Oxon-Red
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8:51am Wed 13 Feb 13

BorisIsTheSpider says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
London Red wrote:
Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it!
.
Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand
.
Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games
.
The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point
.
Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push
.
Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p!
Thanks LR for posting this.

I mean it.
It's all about where we go from here (the next few days).

I need some positive thoughts after the past few weeks (you may have noticed) :)
Yes, we'll said LR. This is not sarcastic it is good use of irony.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Automatic is so unrealistic isn't it! . Bein what 3 points off top WITH a game in hand . Unbeaten since November - stretching over 11 games . The best goal difference in the division by a country mile which is basically an extra point . Plus we could have Pack Green and BWP join this week to strengthen our push . Yeah but other than that it is all looking cr@p![/p][/quote]Thanks LR for posting this. I mean it. It's all about where we go from here (the next few days). I need some positive thoughts after the past few weeks (you may have noticed) :)[/p][/quote]Yes, we'll said LR. This is not sarcastic it is good use of irony. BorisIsTheSpider
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8:58am Wed 13 Feb 13

mallorca says...

Well will be glad to see the back of SWP.
Regarding results I guess by not playing for several days we will drop down the table a bit,however gives the Team time to regain fitness and illness that have been in the squad.Plus they did have some iffy games on bad pitches.
As to the takeove we all await????? do not believe a word the SWP say´s as he has no interest in our club whatsoever,so much for Arab,oil money takeovers.
And as for the patially debt free bit,thought it was totally debt free???????
Still will be nice not to see that UGLY MUG in the Adver.
So guys forget about last nights results lets get the takeover done and hopefully get replacements in to assist ijuries etc.
As for Pdc like many hope he stays,yet you get the feeling he will walk as I fear the clubs finances will be under strict controll and he won´t have freedom he had in the past.Just might be a good thing.
as a few posters have said any decent manager would do a good job at the Town
Well will be glad to see the back of SWP. Regarding results I guess by not playing for several days we will drop down the table a bit,however gives the Team time to regain fitness and illness that have been in the squad.Plus they did have some iffy games on bad pitches. As to the takeove we all await????? do not believe a word the SWP say´s as he has no interest in our club whatsoever,so much for Arab,oil money takeovers. And as for the patially debt free bit,thought it was totally debt free??????? Still will be nice not to see that UGLY MUG in the Adver. So guys forget about last nights results lets get the takeover done and hopefully get replacements in to assist ijuries etc. As for Pdc like many hope he stays,yet you get the feeling he will walk as I fear the clubs finances will be under strict controll and he won´t have freedom he had in the past.Just might be a good thing. as a few posters have said any decent manager would do a good job at the Town mallorca
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9:02am Wed 13 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
To be fair to Patey, his job was never going to win him friends. Is he a Football Club Chairman, no, but his job has been to find new investors and I wonder how others would have handled this !!! What would you guys have said ? Think about it because it is not easy. Hopefully it all goes through and we will get the chance to strenghten a now threadbare squad which has suffered from injury and illness. Most teams have hiccups at some point, we may have just had ours. Hoping all goes through soon, fingers well crossed. COYMR
I agree with this more balanced view. Patey is never going to be a hero, but he may just have played a big part in saving our club. Wray is a hero, but on the other hand ....
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: To be fair to Patey, his job was never going to win him friends. Is he a Football Club Chairman, no, but his job has been to find new investors and I wonder how others would have handled this !!! What would you guys have said ? Think about it because it is not easy. Hopefully it all goes through and we will get the chance to strenghten a now threadbare squad which has suffered from injury and illness. Most teams have hiccups at some point, we may have just had ours. Hoping all goes through soon, fingers well crossed. COYMR[/p][/quote]I agree with this more balanced view. Patey is never going to be a hero, but he may just have played a big part in saving our club. Wray is a hero, but on the other hand .... RamsburyRed
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9:03am Wed 13 Feb 13

LeGod says...

This takeover seems to be going on for ever lets get it sorted so Paolo can get some additional players in.

i thought it was staring us in the face saturday that without Ritchie and his ability to hold the ball up to bring other players into the game we missed and his delivery into the box but having said that we should have scored at least four goals.

The cherries are getting cocky now and already think there up into the championship.

This new consortium need to support Paolo in what he needs to get us up so hopefully we will hear positive news today.
This takeover seems to be going on for ever lets get it sorted so Paolo can get some additional players in. i thought it was staring us in the face saturday that without Ritchie and his ability to hold the ball up to bring other players into the game we missed and his delivery into the box but having said that we should have scored at least four goals. The cherries are getting cocky now and already think there up into the championship. This new consortium need to support Paolo in what he needs to get us up so hopefully we will hear positive news today. LeGod
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9:07am Wed 13 Feb 13

SouthcoastRed says...

louiscassius wrote:
louiscassius wrote: Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow. I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over..... I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season...... How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year..... But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!! Fingers Crossed today. Louis :-))))
"God"........ Thank 2God".... Sorry.....half alseep.....
Is Gog part of the consortium? Maybe he's the big money man we've been waiting for?
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh well, lets hope this goes through all well today or tomorrow. I'll be honest, i'd take normal for a while just ticking over..... I'll be even more honest, i've been so worried lately, i'd be happy to be solid league 1 Club still next season...... How sad, from my great expectations, to praying were all just ticking over nicely next year..... But, the long term future of our Club is my greatest concern.....and hopfully like Clint Eastwood just said, hopefully, this deal will at least allow us to operate and move forward nice and slowly....Thank Gog!!! Fingers Crossed today. Louis :-))))[/p][/quote]"God"........ Thank 2God".... Sorry.....half alseep.....[/p][/quote]Is Gog part of the consortium? Maybe he's the big money man we've been waiting for? SouthcoastRed
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9:15am Wed 13 Feb 13

NEWBURYREDS says...

Haven't been on here lately, Im fed up with all these fans from different clubs on here talking crap. Anyway Just listened to Marlon Packs interview after Chelts win last night. seems to me yates now wants him to stay! Marlons all mixed up poor lad. he does'nt know if hes coming or going? Lets hope things get sorted soon COYR
Haven't been on here lately, Im fed up with all these fans from different clubs on here talking crap. Anyway Just listened to Marlon Packs interview after Chelts win last night. seems to me yates now wants him to stay! Marlons all mixed up poor lad. he does'nt know if hes coming or going? Lets hope things get sorted soon COYR NEWBURYREDS
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9:25am Wed 13 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

Lazaat wrote:
For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today!

The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!!
One other.....

Yeovil???
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!![/p][/quote]One other..... Yeovil??? Rebel_phish
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9:27am Wed 13 Feb 13

SouthcoastRed says...

I don't think we'll see a statue of SWP at the county ground anytime soon. I do however agree that he was brought in by black to do one job and appears to have (almost) achieved this. Although I worry about the criteria set for him when finding a new buyer. I'm afraid I believe that Black was more likely to ask for the quickest sale, rather than what is best for the long term future of the club.

Other results don't bother me too much at this stage.. Despite Saturdays hiccup . We're on good form. All the politics will soon be over.
I don't believe we we're top of the league this time last season?? For me it all seemed to change following maccas last min goal at Northampton on NYE. We are still right in the mix for automatic, or even champions.
The tranny game is critical.
Keep the faith.
I don't think we'll see a statue of SWP at the county ground anytime soon. I do however agree that he was brought in by black to do one job and appears to have (almost) achieved this. Although I worry about the criteria set for him when finding a new buyer. I'm afraid I believe that Black was more likely to ask for the quickest sale, rather than what is best for the long term future of the club. Other results don't bother me too much at this stage.. Despite Saturdays hiccup . We're on good form. All the politics will soon be over. I don't believe we we're top of the league this time last season?? For me it all seemed to change following maccas last min goal at Northampton on NYE. We are still right in the mix for automatic, or even champions. The tranny game is critical. Keep the faith. SouthcoastRed
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9:27am Wed 13 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree.

Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it?

Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.
Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree. Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it? Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful. Wilesy
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9:30am Wed 13 Feb 13

billbst says...

I wonder if Sir Will had much to do with bringing the new consortium in. From yesterday' reports it seems like they were looking for a club. As to getting the deal done quickly I suspect Nick Watkins had more to do with setting out the needed info for due diligence. What might we realistically of expected from a Chairman over recent weeks. An explanation of the process requested by the FL and their timescales. An explanation of the position with the loanees both with the FL and the club. How the NDA was to work. How he planned to communicate with the manager through the interim. How finances were to be handled in the interim and why this led to Ritchie's sale. Bored now but I think he has been a very poor blinkered chairman.
I wonder if Sir Will had much to do with bringing the new consortium in. From yesterday' reports it seems like they were looking for a club. As to getting the deal done quickly I suspect Nick Watkins had more to do with setting out the needed info for due diligence. What might we realistically of expected from a Chairman over recent weeks. An explanation of the process requested by the FL and their timescales. An explanation of the position with the loanees both with the FL and the club. How the NDA was to work. How he planned to communicate with the manager through the interim. How finances were to be handled in the interim and why this led to Ritchie's sale. Bored now but I think he has been a very poor blinkered chairman. billbst
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9:34am Wed 13 Feb 13

SouthcoastRed says...

billbst wrote:
I wonder if Sir Will had much to do with bringing the new consortium in. From yesterday' reports it seems like they were looking for a club. As to getting the deal done quickly I suspect Nick Watkins had more to do with setting out the needed info for due diligence. What might we realistically of expected from a Chairman over recent weeks. An explanation of the process requested by the FL and their timescales. An explanation of the position with the loanees both with the FL and the club. How the NDA was to work. How he planned to communicate with the manager through the interim. How finances were to be handled in the interim and why this led to Ritchie's sale. Bored now but I think he has been a very poor blinkered chairman.
Well put.
[quote][p][bold]billbst[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Sir Will had much to do with bringing the new consortium in. From yesterday' reports it seems like they were looking for a club. As to getting the deal done quickly I suspect Nick Watkins had more to do with setting out the needed info for due diligence. What might we realistically of expected from a Chairman over recent weeks. An explanation of the process requested by the FL and their timescales. An explanation of the position with the loanees both with the FL and the club. How the NDA was to work. How he planned to communicate with the manager through the interim. How finances were to be handled in the interim and why this led to Ritchie's sale. Bored now but I think he has been a very poor blinkered chairman.[/p][/quote]Well put. SouthcoastRed
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9:39am Wed 13 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

Why is everyone so negative about SWP? He was bought in to do a job, sell the club, had he not of done we would likely been in administration and the sale of Ritchie would have been the least of our issues.

Yes JW was liked by the vast majority on here, but he was one of the reasons the club are in the mess we found ourselves, he never found any investment for the club, great guy but but not the greatest chairman.

The next week or so will be very important to hear what the board have to say, will they invest or try and keep us on an even keel? Without investment I doubt whether top 6 is achievable. I also wonder whether they will feel that we are financially ready for the championship yet.

Reading Pack's tweets last night he now seems committed to Cheltenham for the rest of the season.

Lets hope to hear the takover is completed today!
Why is everyone so negative about SWP? He was bought in to do a job, sell the club, had he not of done we would likely been in administration and the sale of Ritchie would have been the least of our issues. Yes JW was liked by the vast majority on here, but he was one of the reasons the club are in the mess we found ourselves, he never found any investment for the club, great guy but but not the greatest chairman. The next week or so will be very important to hear what the board have to say, will they invest or try and keep us on an even keel? Without investment I doubt whether top 6 is achievable. I also wonder whether they will feel that we are financially ready for the championship yet. Reading Pack's tweets last night he now seems committed to Cheltenham for the rest of the season. Lets hope to hear the takover is completed today! Davidsyrett
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9:39am Wed 13 Feb 13

TelSTFC says...

Wilesy wrote:
Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree.

Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it?

Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.
Have to agree Wilesy its very similar to the Duncan Shearer situation when we sold him to promotion rivals Blackburn.

Lets hope everything is agreed today and Paolo can bring in a couple of loanees then this will soften the blow of Ritchie being sold off.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree. Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it? Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.[/p][/quote]Have to agree Wilesy its very similar to the Duncan Shearer situation when we sold him to promotion rivals Blackburn. Lets hope everything is agreed today and Paolo can bring in a couple of loanees then this will soften the blow of Ritchie being sold off. TelSTFC
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9:43am Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Wilesy wrote:
Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree.

Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it?

Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.
I was thinking the same as you of the similarity of the self destruct scenerion of selling Ritchie to a rival promotion contender.

Albeit with the sale of Duncan Shearer I think the price was a good one, but Daglish never played him to score goals, only to stop us scoring them. Think Howe is playing Matt at left back, but I heard on SKY he made the assist for teir late winner.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree. Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it? Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.[/p][/quote]I was thinking the same as you of the similarity of the self destruct scenerion of selling Ritchie to a rival promotion contender. Albeit with the sale of Duncan Shearer I think the price was a good one, but Daglish never played him to score goals, only to stop us scoring them. Think Howe is playing Matt at left back, but I heard on SKY he made the assist for teir late winner. old town robin
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9:56am Wed 13 Feb 13

mike1990 says...

No news then,nothing story waste of time logging on Bye.
No news then,nothing story waste of time logging on Bye. mike1990
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10:03am Wed 13 Feb 13

Another view says...

One minor snippet he mentioned -

"...and they have experience in the property side as well which is important given the redevelopment of the stadium has been planned for a while, so hopefully that will all go forward,”

Since he is always brief in his comments, I wonder how significant this might be.
One minor snippet he mentioned - "...and they have experience in the property side as well which is important given the redevelopment of the stadium has been planned for a while, so hopefully that will all go forward,” Since he is always brief in his comments, I wonder how significant this might be. Another view
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10:07am Wed 13 Feb 13

southside7 says...

If the new consortium works and Bill made it happen then in the future we may thank him.
As for diplomacy, with all his previous dealings with the Taliban et al, the fact that he couldn't appease mere football fans is a staggering irony.
If the new consortium works and Bill made it happen then in the future we may thank him. As for diplomacy, with all his previous dealings with the Taliban et al, the fact that he couldn't appease mere football fans is a staggering irony. southside7
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10:11am Wed 13 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

This is how I see it..just saying ..

Let's say we loose our next game which lets face it will be tough to get anything out of it, we could be 8th and 7 points off the top.
Games in hand mean nothing, points every time.
We have a thread bare squad and in desperate need of a striker, wide man and centre midfielder all who can come in and be match fit immediately.

I think we will struggle to stay with the top six come April if we do not see any additions to the squad.
This is how I see it..just saying .. Let's say we loose our next game which lets face it will be tough to get anything out of it, we could be 8th and 7 points off the top. Games in hand mean nothing, points every time. We have a thread bare squad and in desperate need of a striker, wide man and centre midfielder all who can come in and be match fit immediately. I think we will struggle to stay with the top six come April if we do not see any additions to the squad. Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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10:29am Wed 13 Feb 13

madterrier says...

Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for.

But what does his list of successes really look like?

- Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted.

- Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams.

- Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham.

- Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media.

- Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet.

- Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them.

- Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera??

OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his lips start moving.
Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his [or her] lips start moving. madterrier
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10:40am Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus.
As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus. the wizard
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10:52am Wed 13 Feb 13

Oxon-Red says...

Do we know the full story behind his installation as chairman ?

Was he told at the time by Mr Black "I want out by the end of January, I want a buyer in place by then." ?

How do you handle this ?

Do you release all the information ?

Do you handle it 'diplomatically' and say "I have been brought in to find new investors in the club' ?

What could have been the outcome in October if he had released all the information ! Paolo gone, players affected, attendances down, position in the league down.

What has happened ?

The whole situation has been very difficult and may turn out to have been handled well. Judging what and how much to say is not an easy job.

Say too much and people panic, leave, stop committing themselves 100% etc

I feel he is being used as a scapegoat because people fear the worst. We may never know the whole story but hopefully it will have a happy ending :-)

COYMR
Do we know the full story behind his installation as chairman ? Was he told at the time by Mr Black "I want out by the end of January, I want a buyer in place by then." ? How do you handle this ? Do you release all the information ? Do you handle it 'diplomatically' and say "I have been brought in to find new investors in the club' ? What could have been the outcome in October if he had released all the information ! Paolo gone, players affected, attendances down, position in the league down. What has happened ? The whole situation has been very difficult and may turn out to have been handled well. Judging what and how much to say is not an easy job. Say too much and people panic, leave, stop committing themselves 100% etc I feel he is being used as a scapegoat because people fear the worst. We may never know the whole story but hopefully it will have a happy ending :-) COYMR Oxon-Red
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10:55am Wed 13 Feb 13

eastmidsred says...

It's all very concerning because it doesn't sound as though we are going to be on solid financial ground. These guys don't appear to have very deep pockets. For all the JW fans, God help us if he comes back because the only certainties will be transfer embargos and administration.
It's all very concerning because it doesn't sound as though we are going to be on solid financial ground. These guys don't appear to have very deep pockets. For all the JW fans, God help us if he comes back because the only certainties will be transfer embargos and administration. eastmidsred
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10:58am Wed 13 Feb 13

Stratton Red says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Do we know the full story behind his installation as chairman ? Was he told at the time by Mr Black "I want out by the end of January, I want a buyer in place by then." ? How do you handle this ? Do you release all the information ? Do you handle it 'diplomatically' and say "I have been brought in to find new investors in the club' ? What could have been the outcome in October if he had released all the information ! Paolo gone, players affected, attendances down, position in the league down. What has happened ? The whole situation has been very difficult and may turn out to have been handled well. Judging what and how much to say is not an easy job. Say too much and people panic, leave, stop committing themselves 100% etc I feel he is being used as a scapegoat because people fear the worst. We may never know the whole story but hopefully it will have a happy ending :-) COYMR
Best post of the week... My thoughts exactly.
*
People too quick to judge with no appreciation of what's going on behind the scenes.
*
I just hope AB is true to he Twatter word and when the takeover goes through the facts emerge...
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Do we know the full story behind his installation as chairman ? Was he told at the time by Mr Black "I want out by the end of January, I want a buyer in place by then." ? How do you handle this ? Do you release all the information ? Do you handle it 'diplomatically' and say "I have been brought in to find new investors in the club' ? What could have been the outcome in October if he had released all the information ! Paolo gone, players affected, attendances down, position in the league down. What has happened ? The whole situation has been very difficult and may turn out to have been handled well. Judging what and how much to say is not an easy job. Say too much and people panic, leave, stop committing themselves 100% etc I feel he is being used as a scapegoat because people fear the worst. We may never know the whole story but hopefully it will have a happy ending :-) COYMR[/p][/quote]Best post of the week... My thoughts exactly. * People too quick to judge with no appreciation of what's going on behind the scenes. * I just hope AB is true to he Twatter word and when the takeover goes through the facts emerge... Stratton Red
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11:16am Wed 13 Feb 13

Doctor red says...

Stickshaker wrote:
Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map?
Lilliput!

The Doc
[quote][p][bold]Stickshaker[/bold] wrote: Well the man from Del Monte has now sorted out Afganistan and Swindon - where next on the world map?[/p][/quote]Lilliput! The Doc Doctor red
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11:20am Wed 13 Feb 13

Doctor red says...

ciclosporindorset wrote:
This all goes to show how having a single or dominant benefactor can lead to problems when their own circumstances change. I feel the last 18 months have been exciting yet expectations - mine,PDC, fans, are raised to an unsustainable level. I feel I have woken up to reality and yet we are on the threshold of a new dream. A group - not a dominant invester - want to invest. We have 18 players almost universally better than the (larger) squad of 2 years ago. We have a larger fan base, we are fourth in the league so a better place than for many many years. My hope for the future is that as a club we can nurture the likes of Thompson 1 & 2, Storey, Oakley, Bedwell, retain an experienced core and regain the strategy of Fitton around sustainable development. We are a more attractive proposition for incoming loanees. The ground redevelopment is mentioned above and many above cannot see the opportunities mentioned by Patey above. It is not necessarily a new set of goals but perhaps it was time for a different strategy. I doubt that Patey will be too troubled by the inevitable flack. He is not that sort. He got - hopefully today - a win-win - from a difficult position 3 momnths ago.
"I have a dream"!


The Doc
[quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote: This all goes to show how having a single or dominant benefactor can lead to problems when their own circumstances change. I feel the last 18 months have been exciting yet expectations - mine,PDC, fans, are raised to an unsustainable level. I feel I have woken up to reality and yet we are on the threshold of a new dream. A group - not a dominant invester - want to invest. We have 18 players almost universally better than the (larger) squad of 2 years ago. We have a larger fan base, we are fourth in the league so a better place than for many many years. My hope for the future is that as a club we can nurture the likes of Thompson 1 & 2, Storey, Oakley, Bedwell, retain an experienced core and regain the strategy of Fitton around sustainable development. We are a more attractive proposition for incoming loanees. The ground redevelopment is mentioned above and many above cannot see the opportunities mentioned by Patey above. It is not necessarily a new set of goals but perhaps it was time for a different strategy. I doubt that Patey will be too troubled by the inevitable flack. He is not that sort. He got - hopefully today - a win-win - from a difficult position 3 momnths ago.[/p][/quote]"I have a dream"! The Doc Doctor red
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11:22am Wed 13 Feb 13

stfc2012 says...

He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat.
He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat. stfc2012
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11:32am Wed 13 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

madterrier wrote:
Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for.

But what does his list of successes really look like?

- Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted.

- Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams.

- Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham.

- Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media.

- Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet.

- Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them.

- Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera??

OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his lips start moving.
Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!!

If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple.

Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming.

Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his [or her] lips start moving.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!! If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple. Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming. Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved. Davidsyrett
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11:34am Wed 13 Feb 13

bullyfish says...

it is OFFICIAL to me after reading some of the posts on here, we have beyond any doubt the most depressing, negative fans in the league, WAKE UP YOU LOT FFS. we still have a club and for the forseeable future by the looks of it, i for one will support swindon even if non league and i live 80 miles away. look closely what is gonna happen with portsmouth my friends. imagine a life without STFC, enough said
it is OFFICIAL to me after reading some of the posts on here, we have beyond any doubt the most depressing, negative fans in the league, WAKE UP YOU LOT FFS. we still have a club and for the forseeable future by the looks of it, i for one will support swindon even if non league and i live 80 miles away. look closely what is gonna happen with portsmouth my friends. imagine a life without STFC, enough said bullyfish
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11:56am Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
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I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door. Oi Den!
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11:57am Wed 13 Feb 13

BillyLucas4me says...

Stop dwelling on the past, you cannot change it.
Look to the future and if you've got it stick a ton on town to be promoted, the odds have never been better and will get worse.
We have beaten Yeovil already let's do a double!!!
Stop dwelling on the past, you cannot change it. Look to the future and if you've got it stick a ton on town to be promoted, the odds have never been better and will get worse. We have beaten Yeovil already let's do a double!!! BillyLucas4me
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12:05pm Wed 13 Feb 13

jam1 says...

Am I missing something here? The above article all sounds rather positive to me. Hoping to hear within the next few hours that the takeover has gone though and we can get a few players in.
Am I missing something here? The above article all sounds rather positive to me. Hoping to hear within the next few hours that the takeover has gone though and we can get a few players in. jam1
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12:10pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Highworth red says...

Just heard an interview with Marlon Pack after Cheltenhams win at Southend. The lad was put in an awkward position. Having to answer questions from local press about his future and I really felt for him. This takeover has been very disruptive to our promotion push. Marlon stated that Mark Yeates wants him to stay, but he said he just wants to play football and is obviously just waiting for the useless football league to pull their finger out and get the job done. Be patient Marlon, a warm welcome awaits you if you want to be here.
Just heard an interview with Marlon Pack after Cheltenhams win at Southend. The lad was put in an awkward position. Having to answer questions from local press about his future and I really felt for him. This takeover has been very disruptive to our promotion push. Marlon stated that Mark Yeates wants him to stay, but he said he just wants to play football and is obviously just waiting for the useless football league to pull their finger out and get the job done. Be patient Marlon, a warm welcome awaits you if you want to be here. Highworth red
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12:13pm Wed 13 Feb 13

madterrier says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for.

But what does his list of successes really look like?

- Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted.

- Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams.

- Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham.

- Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media.

- Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet.

- Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them.

- Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera??

OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his lips start moving.
Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!!

If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple.

Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming.

Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.
The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did.

Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay?

One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do.

However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his [or her] lips start moving.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!! If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple. Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming. Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.[/p][/quote]The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did. Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay? One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do. However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over. madterrier
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12:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

stfc2012 wrote:
He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat.
Some may say he has yet to do the job he was paid to do as the deal has not yet been done. One may also argue that had he done his job better administration would never have been an option, let alone mentioned.

We are all entitled to look at the situation as we see it. No need to get on your high horse about it.
[quote][p][bold]stfc2012[/bold] wrote: He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat.[/p][/quote]Some may say he has yet to do the job he was paid to do as the deal has not yet been done. One may also argue that had he done his job better administration would never have been an option, let alone mentioned. We are all entitled to look at the situation as we see it. No need to get on your high horse about it. Pewsham Red
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12:25pm Wed 13 Feb 13

davel4848 says...

So much negativity on here today. We're 4th in the league, 3pts off the top with a game in hand. Unbeaten in 11 games. Goals for 23. Goals against 4. New owners taking over the reins, hopefully this week.
Yes, things are so bad. Fill your glasses up until they're half full, not half empty.
So much negativity on here today. We're 4th in the league, 3pts off the top with a game in hand. Unbeaten in 11 games. Goals for 23. Goals against 4. New owners taking over the reins, hopefully this week. Yes, things are so bad. Fill your glasses up until they're half full, not half empty. davel4848
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12:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

louiscassius says...

Lazaat wrote:
For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!!
Lazz,

Well as you can imagine i dont want to come on here, but you know it gets the better of ya. And, for that matter if you think Bournemouth aren't going to slip up between now and the end of the season, you must be joking......

I personally think we have an amazing chance and that this title is still wide open.......

This season everyone seems on their day to be able to beat everyone else......

This is going to go down to the wire......

COYR'sssssssssssssss
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: For those who want a few days news free can I suggest you don't read any newspapers, listen to the news and don't come on here for a few days? But I for one will be checking those site out every hour today as I want to know how the meeting goes today! The results last night show that we wasted a glorious chance on Saturday, we have had a lot of draws lately which isn't promotion form so unless we can go on a really good winning run we can forget auto promo! Bournemouth now look favourites for the title with one other? We have got a very tough run in so play offs now likely, maybe if we had the foresight to have kept Ritchie we would have had a more realistic chance of auto!![/p][/quote]Lazz, Well as you can imagine i dont want to come on here, but you know it gets the better of ya. And, for that matter if you think Bournemouth aren't going to slip up between now and the end of the season, you must be joking...... I personally think we have an amazing chance and that this title is still wide open....... This season everyone seems on their day to be able to beat everyone else...... This is going to go down to the wire...... COYR'sssssssssssssss louiscassius
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12:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Robinonfire says...

I think Bournemouth will win L1 Swindon 2nd and Brentford win play offs.

Come on you REDS
I think Bournemouth will win L1 Swindon 2nd and Brentford win play offs. Come on you REDS Robinonfire
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12:45pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the don69 says...

Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
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12:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

LeGod says...

Bournemouth will slip up as all clubs will at some stagethey have coventry and sheff utd coming up and cant see them winning all their games.
By all accounts they were lucky last night and what is more annoying Ritchie set up one of the goals we have shot a massive hole in our foot selling him to Bournemouth you cant get a worse bit of business than what we did.
For what everyone has said about AB yes he has put money in the club and im grateful for that but i also feel he has crapped on the club, the fans, the players and the manager.
He couldnt have picked a worse time to do what he did and my respect for him has disappeared. He knew the score he decided to opt and back Paolo and then changes his mind.

Now he has put the whole club under pressure.
Bournemouth will slip up as all clubs will at some stagethey have coventry and sheff utd coming up and cant see them winning all their games. By all accounts they were lucky last night and what is more annoying Ritchie set up one of the goals we have shot a massive hole in our foot selling him to Bournemouth you cant get a worse bit of business than what we did. For what everyone has said about AB yes he has put money in the club and im grateful for that but i also feel he has crapped on the club, the fans, the players and the manager. He couldnt have picked a worse time to do what he did and my respect for him has disappeared. He knew the score he decided to opt and back Paolo and then changes his mind. Now he has put the whole club under pressure. LeGod
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12:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

stfc2012 says...

Wilesy wrote:
Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree.

Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it?

Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.
Same as we bought the L2 title then...
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Yes looks like Cherries have bought their way to promotion but fair play to them. I doubt Eddie Howe came cheap, plus convincing Pitman to drop a division will have cost, and of course Ritchie, which smacks of Blackburn buying Duncan Shearer to a degree. Patey has (hopefully) achieved his goal of selling the club but I still don't see why he was appointed as Chairman should have just been a consultant. If Wray was spending too much, Black / Patey could have just stopped it? Hopefully Black's health is OK and not the reason for the panic sale. (Funding another £500k in Feb surely cannot be that much of an issue to a man of his wealth). Will be interested to hear his reasons at some point, and we should be grateful he has written off millions debt, even if the last few weeks have been painful.[/p][/quote]Same as we bought the L2 title then... stfc2012
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12:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Med Red says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
stfc2012 wrote:
He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat.
Some may say he has yet to do the job he was paid to do as the deal has not yet been done. One may also argue that had he done his job better administration would never have been an option, let alone mentioned.

We are all entitled to look at the situation as we see it. No need to get on your high horse about it.
Indeed, if he had done his job better, then perhaps Ritchie need not have been sold!!
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfc2012[/bold] wrote: He did the job he was paid to do. You lot prefer administration? Swindon fans love a scapegoat.[/p][/quote]Some may say he has yet to do the job he was paid to do as the deal has not yet been done. One may also argue that had he done his job better administration would never have been an option, let alone mentioned. We are all entitled to look at the situation as we see it. No need to get on your high horse about it.[/p][/quote]Indeed, if he had done his job better, then perhaps Ritchie need not have been sold!! Med Red
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1:06pm Wed 13 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

the don69 wrote:
Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...and another club change manager just before we play them!...Why can't we play these clubs just as they've lost all hope and before the manager resigns!?
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Aah well - we'll just have to try harder.
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Roll on Tranmere on Tuesday!!
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...and another club change manager just before we play them!...Why can't we play these clubs just as they've lost all hope and before the manager resigns!? ... Aah well - we'll just have to try harder. ... Roll on Tranmere on Tuesday!! SAPFanSTFC
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1:08pm Wed 13 Feb 13

tifosi says...

LeGod wrote:
Bournemouth will slip up as all clubs will at some stagethey have coventry and sheff utd coming up and cant see them winning all their games.
By all accounts they were lucky last night and what is more annoying Ritchie set up one of the goals we have shot a massive hole in our foot selling him to Bournemouth you cant get a worse bit of business than what we did.
For what everyone has said about AB yes he has put money in the club and im grateful for that but i also feel he has crapped on the club, the fans, the players and the manager.
He couldnt have picked a worse time to do what he did and my respect for him has disappeared. He knew the score he decided to opt and back Paolo and then changes his mind.

Now he has put the whole club under pressure.
says it all
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth will slip up as all clubs will at some stagethey have coventry and sheff utd coming up and cant see them winning all their games. By all accounts they were lucky last night and what is more annoying Ritchie set up one of the goals we have shot a massive hole in our foot selling him to Bournemouth you cant get a worse bit of business than what we did. For what everyone has said about AB yes he has put money in the club and im grateful for that but i also feel he has crapped on the club, the fans, the players and the manager. He couldnt have picked a worse time to do what he did and my respect for him has disappeared. He knew the score he decided to opt and back Paolo and then changes his mind. Now he has put the whole club under pressure.[/p][/quote]says it all tifosi
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1:12pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the don69 says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...and another club change manager just before we play them!...Why can't we play these clubs just as they've lost all hope and before the manager resigns!?
...
Aah well - we'll just have to try harder.
...
Roll on Tranmere on Tuesday!!
Well they got to play Muff on Saturday!lets see how they get on in that one and who's in charge,just shows Westley done a great job at Stevenage!goes to a big club,more pressure and money to spend,but he couldn't hack it!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Another manager bites the dust!Westley couldn't hack it at PNE,heard from Jed on twitter!he's on his way to meet the boffins!at the FL lets hope it all goes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...and another club change manager just before we play them!...Why can't we play these clubs just as they've lost all hope and before the manager resigns!? ... Aah well - we'll just have to try harder. ... Roll on Tranmere on Tuesday!![/p][/quote]Well they got to play Muff on Saturday!lets see how they get on in that one and who's in charge,just shows Westley done a great job at Stevenage!goes to a big club,more pressure and money to spend,but he couldn't hack it!!!!!!! the don69
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1:22pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Last step says...

Very good couple of posts up there from madterrier.

Not quite sure why people are asking if people who criticise Patey prefer administration. I don't think anyone would prefer that, but it doesn't mean that we don't think Patey could have handled things much, much better than he has.

And it's not even a done deal yet.

He won't be getting my thanks for what he's done here.
Very good couple of posts up there from madterrier. Not quite sure why people are asking if people who criticise Patey prefer administration. I don't think anyone would prefer that, but it doesn't mean that we don't think Patey could have handled things much, much better than he has. And it's not even a done deal yet. He won't be getting my thanks for what he's done here. Last step
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1:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

madterrier wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for.

But what does his list of successes really look like?

- Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted.

- Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams.

- Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham.

- Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media.

- Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet.

- Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them.

- Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera??

OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his lips start moving.
Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!!

If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple.

Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming.

Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.
The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did.

Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay?

One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do.

However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over.
I think the real problem here was time, SWP was given a very short period of time to find a buyer, hence why he probably didn't go down the avenues you suggested.

For whatever reason AB wanted to off load the club by the end of January, therefore making a public announcement that the club was for sale was probably the quickest way to get things moving.

Maybe AB shouldn't have installed SWP as chairman, just brought him in as a consultant, therefore not having a need to communicate with the fans etc.
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his [or her] lips start moving.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!! If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple. Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming. Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.[/p][/quote]The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did. Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay? One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do. However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over.[/p][/quote]I think the real problem here was time, SWP was given a very short period of time to find a buyer, hence why he probably didn't go down the avenues you suggested. For whatever reason AB wanted to off load the club by the end of January, therefore making a public announcement that the club was for sale was probably the quickest way to get things moving. Maybe AB shouldn't have installed SWP as chairman, just brought him in as a consultant, therefore not having a need to communicate with the fans etc. Davidsyrett
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1:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

hertz says...

Can't be bothered to read that lot , anyone know what time the meeting takes place in Preston I will take a look later in hope we have some news . Lets not get too despondant , the past we can do nothing about , the future we can but try to make the difference , we are still in the mix let us all do our bit to help our team across the line . COYR
Can't be bothered to read that lot , anyone know what time the meeting takes place in Preston I will take a look later in hope we have some news . Lets not get too despondant , the past we can do nothing about , the future we can but try to make the difference , we are still in the mix let us all do our bit to help our team across the line . COYR hertz
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1:43pm Wed 13 Feb 13

ShearerShearer says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
madterrier wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
madterrier wrote: Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his lips start moving.
Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!! If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple. Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming. Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.
The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did. Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay? One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do. However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over.
I think the real problem here was time, SWP was given a very short period of time to find a buyer, hence why he probably didn't go down the avenues you suggested. For whatever reason AB wanted to off load the club by the end of January, therefore making a public announcement that the club was for sale was probably the quickest way to get things moving. Maybe AB shouldn't have installed SWP as chairman, just brought him in as a consultant, therefore not having a need to communicate with the fans etc.
Agree with most of this and I understand NDAs etc, but what I think the club loses sight of sometimes is that it's us as supporters who contribute towards paying their wages, hence "supporters". And as such I believe that we have a right to be kept informed.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Technically, Patey has 'succeeded' in helping find new owners for the club. I don't know that we needed a chairman to do much in this regard though - just someone to pick up the phone to a financial intermediary like Deloitts or PKF, that's all that is required. It's a simple admin job, as Black would decide which deal to go for. But what does his list of successes really look like? - Failed to get the 'bidding war' he said he wanted. - Can't pre-judge yet, and probably we will never know, but doesn't sound like he has found wealthy new owners with any money, either to recompense Black for his investment or to fund the club's future dreams. - Lobbed various hand grenades around the County Ground about the perilous state of the club, including the dreaded 'A' word (no, not Afghanistan), leading to a national media feeding frenzy and accusations of 'cheating' from the likes of the Football League Paper and Talksport's Adrian Dumb Durham. - Failed to develop any kind of rapport with the club's manager, leading to Paolo openly contradicting Patey's remarks in the local media. - Didn't have the courtesy to tell Paolo that Ritchie was being sold from under his feet. - Annoyed the fan base, even though he barely communicated with them. - Did he also add cart horse meat to the Paolo burgers on sale at the CG? (sorry, Adver should have said 'SN1'). Actually, what happened to Magera?? OK probably he didn't do the last one but he has hardly covered himself with glory in his time here. No doubt his CV will read differently though. As the old adage goes, you know when a politician is lying because his [or her] lips start moving.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, how would you have gone about selling a club that was losing £100K's a month? Some people really do not have a clue!! If SWP have not of found a buyer ADMINISTRATION!!! simple. Who cares whether he spoke to the fans, PDC or press, I don't. We could easily been docked 20 points by now and had a relegation battle looming. Because of SWP we still have a club with a chance of promotion and keeping PdC. If the deal goes through I for one will be grateful for what he has achieved.[/p][/quote]The answer to how I would go about selling a club was in my first paragraph. I would contact a confidential business intermediary with a specialist football department or expertise - Deloitte and PKF for example. Whether it was Wray or Patey I don't see why Black had to expect the Chairman to do all this - he could have done it himself covertly, or hired a consultant. Maybe he did. Having worked with both of those firms I assume your 'some people really don't have a clue' comment doesn't refer to me, unless my understanding is wrong and you know of different ways that businesses are bought and sold? EBay? One of the Chairman's main roles is to act as intermediary between the owner and the manager and ensure the smooth running of the football club. Another is to front up the club to the fans. Good communication is usually good for business, which is why so many companies pay small fortunes to PR companies. You might not care that Patey did little in this area, but many supporters do. However, I do agree that Patey's hands were tied by Black, and you also don't do your negotiating in public. As another poster said, I look forward to seeing Andrew Black's tweets (!) once this episode is over.[/p][/quote]I think the real problem here was time, SWP was given a very short period of time to find a buyer, hence why he probably didn't go down the avenues you suggested. For whatever reason AB wanted to off load the club by the end of January, therefore making a public announcement that the club was for sale was probably the quickest way to get things moving. Maybe AB shouldn't have installed SWP as chairman, just brought him in as a consultant, therefore not having a need to communicate with the fans etc.[/p][/quote]Agree with most of this and I understand NDAs etc, but what I think the club loses sight of sometimes is that it's us as supporters who contribute towards paying their wages, hence "supporters". And as such I believe that we have a right to be kept informed. ShearerShearer
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1:54pm Wed 13 Feb 13

London Red says...

Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means!
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Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points
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If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process
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Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd!
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Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc)
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Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means
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Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game!
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Then another tough home game against Doncaster!
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They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park
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They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is!
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I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!!
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Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case! London Red
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2:17pm Wed 13 Feb 13

class says...

Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month!
Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month! class
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2:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Swindon1984 says...

NewburyRobin wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
the wizard wrote: We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done. However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.
I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP.
Yes he did do what he was brought in for but then so could The Milky Bar Kid, providing he was back in Town.
Only difference is we were told he was brought in to find new investment for the club - turns out that was garbled speak for selling the club. Only reinforces my thoughts that there was a lot going on a lot sooner than any of us realised, and the fans were the last to know what AB's plans were. All done now though, hopefully can move on to a brighter tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: We will have a new board in the next few days should the guys pass the interview today, sounds good, sounds promising. Job done. However, if SWP is the role model of modern day politics and diplomacy then it is plain to see why there is so much distrust in todays world. He has communicated little, hardly inspired confidence, and appears to be as blunt as it comes. So as Wyatt Earp rides out of town into the sunset let us hope not too many casualties are left laying dead on the ground, now or in the future. One cowboy dispatched.[/p][/quote]I'm not defending the guy wiz and I agree with you that he has been a PR disaster but he was brought in solely to sell the club, which he has now done...so thanks and goodbye SWP.[/p][/quote]Yes he did do what he was brought in for but then so could The Milky Bar Kid, providing he was back in Town.[/p][/quote]Only difference is we were told he was brought in to find new investment for the club - turns out that was garbled speak for selling the club. Only reinforces my thoughts that there was a lot going on a lot sooner than any of us realised, and the fans were the last to know what AB's plans were. All done now though, hopefully can move on to a brighter tomorrow. Swindon1984
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2:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

NEWBURYREDS says...

Meeting started at 1.30 so maybe just maybe?
Meeting started at 1.30 so maybe just maybe? NEWBURYREDS
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2:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13

smirg kcab says...

I didn't think he played the main part in
Who framed roger rabbit very well also


Onwards and upwards
I didn't think he played the main part in Who framed roger rabbit very well also Onwards and upwards smirg kcab
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3:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins.

Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre.

If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place.

Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured.

Not negative, just realistic.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case![/p][/quote]Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins. Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre. If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place. Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured. Not negative, just realistic. Wilesy
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3:23pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote:
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins.

Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre.

If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place.

Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured.

Not negative, just realistic.
Agreed Wilesy agreed
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case![/p][/quote]Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins. Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre. If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place. Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured. Not negative, just realistic.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wilesy agreed Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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3:37pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

This only photo the Adver seems to have of SWP looks like he's turned up at the wrong place somewhat confused expecting to see some horse racing with his son!
This only photo the Adver seems to have of SWP looks like he's turned up at the wrong place somewhat confused expecting to see some horse racing with his son! Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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3:43pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Med Red says...

Just read on BBC sport that Cheltenham now want to keep Marlon Pack.
Just read on BBC sport that Cheltenham now want to keep Marlon Pack. Med Red
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3:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13

burley01rs says...

Pack no show. Step up to the mark L. T
Pack no show. Step up to the mark L. T burley01rs
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3:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
London Red wrote:
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins.

Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre.

If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place.

Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured.

Not negative, just realistic.
Agreed Wilesy agreed
I don't think the postponements helped either, just as we built up a head of steam, we lost momentum.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Reed's Parky dance![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case![/p][/quote]Anyone can beat anyone in this league which is why no-one is running away with it, but despite our unbeaten record we don't look as good as we did since the departures of Ritchie Hollands and Martin and the strikers in particular Williams are blowing cold after a very hot spell. Also too many draws not wins. Bournemouth and Yeovil are clearly 2 teams in better form, Grabban Pitman and Madden are smashing in goals left right and centre. If we can get the 3 loans in I fancy our chances of top 2, without probably just the play-offs and maybe worst case 7th place. Maybe its just a confidence thing and we will come good again with what we've got, or as Paolo says a guaranteed starting place leads to too many going at 80%, either through complacency or a need to not get injured. Not negative, just realistic.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wilesy agreed[/p][/quote]I don't think the postponements helped either, just as we built up a head of steam, we lost momentum. LydiardRED67
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3:53pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Stilloyal says...

WE WILL WIN this league IF..............

If the deal is ratified and if..................
.

.IF Paolo stays.
WE WILL WIN this league IF.............. If the deal is ratified and if.................. . .IF Paolo stays. Stilloyal
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3:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

LeGod says...

i've said it already and we cant go back but Ritchie held up play and brought players into the game as did Martin and now we dont have that so we have to change our style but i think it leaves us easier to play against. we need additions to the squad and quick.
i've said it already and we cant go back but Ritchie held up play and brought players into the game as did Martin and now we dont have that so we have to change our style but i think it leaves us easier to play against. we need additions to the squad and quick. LeGod
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4:02pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Oh to be a fly on the wall in Preston and hear the questions and answers, priceless.
Oh to be a fly on the wall in Preston and hear the questions and answers, priceless. the wizard
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4:20pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Krazy Kammy says...

Just hope this deal is done by the morning so we can bring in a few players to freshen things up.
Just hope this deal is done by the morning so we can bring in a few players to freshen things up. Krazy Kammy
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4:21pm Wed 13 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Ah but Ritchie also scored more than the odd goal something Martin never looked likely to do :)
Ah but Ritchie also scored more than the odd goal something Martin never looked likely to do :) The Jockster
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4:22pm Wed 13 Feb 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed! ChrisWantageRed
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4:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ?? the wizard
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4:25pm Wed 13 Feb 13

fatman says...

GOOD RIDDENCE PITY HE WASNT HONEST when he arrived as to what his intentions were
GOOD RIDDENCE PITY HE WASNT HONEST when he arrived as to what his intentions were fatman
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4:25pm Wed 13 Feb 13

fatman says...

GOOD RIDDENCE PITY HE WASNT HONEST when he arrived as to what his intentions were
GOOD RIDDENCE PITY HE WASNT HONEST when he arrived as to what his intentions were fatman
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4:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Med Red wrote:
Just read on BBC sport that Cheltenham now want to keep Marlon Pack.
Not sure when he is out of contract, but they won't want to lose him for nothing and we all know what happens to players that dither when dealing with Paolo, (just ask james constable), at the end of the day it's Pack who will make the decision what he thinks is best for his career, not mark Yates, if he hesitates, he will no longer be of interest to Paolo.
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Just read on BBC sport that Cheltenham now want to keep Marlon Pack.[/p][/quote]Not sure when he is out of contract, but they won't want to lose him for nothing and we all know what happens to players that dither when dealing with Paolo, (just ask james constable), at the end of the day it's Pack who will make the decision what he thinks is best for his career, not mark Yates, if he hesitates, he will no longer be of interest to Paolo. old town robin
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4:27pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Krazy Kammy says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
That's assuming that it is his twitter page and not some WUM
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]That's assuming that it is his twitter page and not some WUM Krazy Kammy
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4:27pm Wed 13 Feb 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

the wizard wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??
I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??[/p][/quote]I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly! ChrisWantageRed
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4:30pm Wed 13 Feb 13

STFC-Cat says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
the wizard wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??
I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly!
Did he tweet you directly? Because I can't see anything on his twitter account??
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??[/p][/quote]I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly![/p][/quote]Did he tweet you directly? Because I can't see anything on his twitter account?? STFC-Cat
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4:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
the wizard wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??
I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly!
Squeeky bum time then, like you, lets hop so.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]Does that mean we can breathe a bit now ??[/p][/quote]I flippin' well hope so mate...hopefully there will be some kinda official announcement shortly![/p][/quote]Squeeky bum time then, like you, lets hop so. the wizard
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4:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?. NewburyRobin
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4:33pm Wed 13 Feb 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

It was taken down pretty rapidly afterwards...seems the general vibe is good, but no official word until next week! So we're gonna be made to wait it seems!
It was taken down pretty rapidly afterwards...seems the general vibe is good, but no official word until next week! So we're gonna be made to wait it seems! ChrisWantageRed
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4:37pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RedArmy74 says...

NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
[quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...' RedArmy74
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4:41pm Wed 13 Feb 13

NEWBURYREDS says...

Morshead said meeting went well but wont be till next week now GOD KNOWS what next?
Morshead said meeting went well but wont be till next week now GOD KNOWS what next? NEWBURYREDS
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4:42pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the don69 says...

RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
That's Geof Stelling's song!we've had enough of Hartlepool this week!LOL looks like the deal is done chaps!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]That's Geof Stelling's song!we've had enough of Hartlepool this week!LOL looks like the deal is done chaps!!!!!!!! the don69
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4:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13

spectacles testicals wallet watch says...

Why no word till next week? Surely they can say it has all be accepted and although the paperwork needs time to dry does it mean we can sign players?
This whole episode has been a complete fiasco, for the last 2 weeks they hoped it would be done on deadline day then the folowing friday prior to Hatlepool then mid this week now although the meeting has taken place and must be positive still we, utter nonsense. If we were a profit making business we would demand that we be allowed to trade otherwise how could we fullfil the obligations of making the business a succcess? The FL is a Fu$£1ng JOKE it is they who shoud be ordered to undertake their own fit and proper test W A N K E R S
Why no word till next week? Surely they can say it has all be accepted and although the paperwork needs time to dry does it mean we can sign players? This whole episode has been a complete fiasco, for the last 2 weeks they hoped it would be done on deadline day then the folowing friday prior to Hatlepool then mid this week now although the meeting has taken place and must be positive still we, utter nonsense. If we were a profit making business we would demand that we be allowed to trade otherwise how could we fullfil the obligations of making the business a succcess? The FL is a Fu$£1ng JOKE it is they who shoud be ordered to undertake their own fit and proper test W A N K E R S spectacles testicals wallet watch
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4:46pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Exmouth_red69 says...

@jedMcCoy

Get onto twitter guys, get some answers?
@jedMcCoy Get onto twitter guys, get some answers? Exmouth_red69
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4:46pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
.
I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable. old town robin
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4:46pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
It was taken down pretty rapidly afterwards...seems the general vibe is good, but no official word until next week! So we're gonna be made to wait it seems!
And meanwhile Chris we are suffering on the loan front. I would expect our manager to be pulling his hair out with frustration by now. Surely now Roberts and Rooney have to find some extra ability and commitment and Collins and Williams must improve their marksmanship. Today I see that the Shrews have signed Chris Porter of Sheff Utd and Crawley have grabbed Aiden O'Brien and a player by the name of Poleon has gone in to Sheff Utd. Several teams upgrading and we are in limbo, somebody will be gnashing their teeth for sure, while we now have to wait, until next week.
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: It was taken down pretty rapidly afterwards...seems the general vibe is good, but no official word until next week! So we're gonna be made to wait it seems![/p][/quote]And meanwhile Chris we are suffering on the loan front. I would expect our manager to be pulling his hair out with frustration by now. Surely now Roberts and Rooney have to find some extra ability and commitment and Collins and Williams must improve their marksmanship. Today I see that the Shrews have signed Chris Porter of Sheff Utd and Crawley have grabbed Aiden O'Brien and a player by the name of Poleon has gone in to Sheff Utd. Several teams upgrading and we are in limbo, somebody will be gnashing their teeth for sure, while we now have to wait, until next week. the wizard
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4:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

the wizard wrote:
As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus.
Nice one Wiz, made me laugh and already passed it ont a few friends.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus.[/p][/quote]Nice one Wiz, made me laugh and already passed it ont a few friends. old town robin
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4:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the don69 says...

spectacles testicals wallet watch wrote:
Why no word till next week? Surely they can say it has all be accepted and although the paperwork needs time to dry does it mean we can sign players?
This whole episode has been a complete fiasco, for the last 2 weeks they hoped it would be done on deadline day then the folowing friday prior to Hatlepool then mid this week now although the meeting has taken place and must be positive still we, utter nonsense. If we were a profit making business we would demand that we be allowed to trade otherwise how could we fullfil the obligations of making the business a succcess? The FL is a Fu$£1ng JOKE it is they who shoud be ordered to undertake their own fit and proper test W A N K E R S
They couldn't possibly take their own fit and proper Spec's!they'd ALL fail and miserably!!!!!!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]spectacles testicals wallet watch[/bold] wrote: Why no word till next week? Surely they can say it has all be accepted and although the paperwork needs time to dry does it mean we can sign players? This whole episode has been a complete fiasco, for the last 2 weeks they hoped it would be done on deadline day then the folowing friday prior to Hatlepool then mid this week now although the meeting has taken place and must be positive still we, utter nonsense. If we were a profit making business we would demand that we be allowed to trade otherwise how could we fullfil the obligations of making the business a succcess? The FL is a Fu$£1ng JOKE it is they who shoud be ordered to undertake their own fit and proper test W A N K E R S[/p][/quote]They couldn't possibly take their own fit and proper Spec's!they'd ALL fail and miserably!!!!!!!!!!! ! the don69
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4:54pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Krazy Kammy wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
That's assuming that it is his twitter page and not some WUM
or maybe guv
[quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]That's assuming that it is his twitter page and not some WUM[/p][/quote]or maybe guv old town robin
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4:56pm Wed 13 Feb 13

mallorca says...

Look it´s STFC nothing never seems to go in our favour.If it is true what SM has said I kinda had a feeling it would be next week when all is concluded.
Yet you get an iffy feeling.
Now pdc will be champing at the Bit he is an unhappy Bunny.
Justthought some sort of indication by now could be given by the FL,lost for words and it just does not feel right at all.
as for the meeting went well??????? nobody has given official of what went on
Look it´s STFC nothing never seems to go in our favour.If it is true what SM has said I kinda had a feeling it would be next week when all is concluded. Yet you get an iffy feeling. Now pdc will be champing at the Bit he is an unhappy Bunny. Justthought some sort of indication by now could be given by the FL,lost for words and it just does not feel right at all. as for the meeting went well??????? nobody has given official of what went on mallorca
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4:57pm Wed 13 Feb 13

grove red says...

We can kiss good bye to pack green and brp I would say bloody FL they just don't like us.
We can kiss good bye to pack green and brp I would say bloody FL they just don't like us. grove red
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4:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oxon-Red says...

Guess we are all waiting for a BREAKING NEWS article from Sam.

How about the following:

BREAKING NEWS: 'Take Over Reatified and Town Awarded 10 Points'

The take over Swindon Town Football Club by the Consortium led by Jed McCrory was ratified by the Football League authorities today. The Football League also decided to award the club 10 bonus league points to compensate for the delays in the procedure. The extra points are deemed to have been the number lost as a result of the transfer embargo enforced by the authorities during ...


COYMR
Guess we are all waiting for a BREAKING NEWS article from Sam. How about the following: BREAKING NEWS: 'Take Over Reatified and Town Awarded 10 Points' The take over Swindon Town Football Club by the Consortium led by Jed McCrory was ratified by the Football League authorities today. The Football League also decided to award the club 10 bonus league points to compensate for the delays in the procedure. The extra points are deemed to have been the number lost as a result of the transfer embargo enforced by the authorities during ... COYMR Oxon-Red
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4:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

London Red wrote:
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means!
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Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points
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If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process
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Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd!
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Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc)
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Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means
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Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game!
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Then another tough home game against Doncaster!
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They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park
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They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is!
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I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!!
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Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
I don't think we need everyone's fixture list or more sarcasm. Can't you just accept that some of us feel differently about this than you?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case![/p][/quote]I don't think we need everyone's fixture list or more sarcasm. Can't you just accept that some of us feel differently about this than you? Pewsham Red
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5:05pm Wed 13 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
Oh to be a fly on the wall in Preston and hear the questions and answers, priceless.
To quote the old joke- is that country and western or some "see you next Tuesday" from Preston! I'll get me coat lol!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Oh to be a fly on the wall in Preston and hear the questions and answers, priceless.[/p][/quote]To quote the old joke- is that country and western or some "see you next Tuesday" from Preston! I'll get me coat lol! The Jockster
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5:06pm Wed 13 Feb 13

southwest man says...

No official news today.Radio Wiltshire.
No official news today.Radio Wiltshire. southwest man
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5:06pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Krazy Kammy says...

Saying early next week now
Saying early next week now Krazy Kammy
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5:07pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!! old town robin
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5:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13

EastleazeRed says...

Looks like we can kiss goodbye to any new signings , so its down to paolo to stop sulking ,motivate the players he's got and the players to step up to the mark to gain promotion . Their destiny is now in their own hands , dont blow it
Looks like we can kiss goodbye to any new signings , so its down to paolo to stop sulking ,motivate the players he's got and the players to step up to the mark to gain promotion . Their destiny is now in their own hands , dont blow it EastleazeRed
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5:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

London Red says...

It a shame you can't accept others do to you though hey Pewsham!
It a shame you can't accept others do to you though hey Pewsham! London Red
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5:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
But who's going to pay for them?
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!![/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them? Davidsyrett
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5:38pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Red Tuareg says...

Taxi for Patey !!
Taxi for Patey !! Red Tuareg
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5:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13

London Red says...

On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP!
On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP! London Red
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6:07pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Wonder Strike says...

I know it's hard but we have to be patient. Takeovers take time. We wouldn't be worried if this was end of season. It's the timing that has been the issue.
I know it's hard but we have to be patient. Takeovers take time. We wouldn't be worried if this was end of season. It's the timing that has been the issue. Wonder Strike
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6:10pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

London Red wrote:
It a shame you can't accept others do to you though hey Pewsham!
??
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: It a shame you can't accept others do to you though hey Pewsham![/p][/quote]?? Pewsham Red
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6:17pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
But who's going to pay for them?
Good point Dave, my comment was made on the proviso that the FL only need to complete the paperwork, I'm not sure on this, but I'm quite sure wages for loanees are not paid up front, but are due 1 month after they sign, therefore in my thoughts if the embergo was lifted, the cash flow would be there by the Ides of March.

Optimistic I know, but we live in hope, but don't really expect the FL to give us any benefit of the doubt.

So Hey-Ho, we go with what we have and hope for the best.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!![/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them?[/p][/quote]Good point Dave, my comment was made on the proviso that the FL only need to complete the paperwork, I'm not sure on this, but I'm quite sure wages for loanees are not paid up front, but are due 1 month after they sign, therefore in my thoughts if the embergo was lifted, the cash flow would be there by the Ides of March. Optimistic I know, but we live in hope, but don't really expect the FL to give us any benefit of the doubt. So Hey-Ho, we go with what we have and hope for the best. old town robin
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6:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
But who's going to pay for them?
But who's going to pay for them?

Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ??
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!![/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them?[/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them? Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ?? DarrenSTFCRomain
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6:27pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

London Red wrote:
On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP!
I haven't heard that LR, but wouldn't be surprised that Spencer was a key player in at least one of the bids . If Patey had anything to offer it would have been with his middle east contacts for which he obviously did not get any success
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP![/p][/quote]I haven't heard that LR, but wouldn't be surprised that Spencer was a key player in at least one of the bids . If Patey had anything to offer it would have been with his middle east contacts for which he obviously did not get any success old town robin
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6:33pm Wed 13 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

None if this would have been a problem if Black would have given an extra month or so or even better until the end of the season.

.... and certainly we would have had a great chance of winning the league and gaining promotion to the Championship.....
None if this would have been a problem if Black would have given an extra month or so or even better until the end of the season. .... and certainly we would have had a great chance of winning the league and gaining promotion to the Championship..... TheDukeOfBanbury
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6:34pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

class wrote:
Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month!
My daughter said he had won it, haven't seen anything on Sky, so assume as per your post he is just a nominee, he certainly deserves it, but for some past winners it seem to be a poison challis.
[quote][p][bold]class[/bold] wrote: Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month![/p][/quote]My daughter said he had won it, haven't seen anything on Sky, so assume as per your post he is just a nominee, he certainly deserves it, but for some past winners it seem to be a poison challis. old town robin
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6:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Since 1950 says...

Krazy Kammy wrote:
Saying early next week now
Yeah, BBC Wilts reporting early next week now. No new signings prior to the Tranmere game then.

Any bets on Thursday?
[quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: Saying early next week now[/p][/quote]Yeah, BBC Wilts reporting early next week now. No new signings prior to the Tranmere game then. Any bets on Thursday? Since 1950
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6:44pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
But who's going to pay for them?
But who's going to pay for them?

Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ??
I don't think that will happen Daz unless the take over fails. The Ritchie give away was supposed to tie us over to take care of the January outgoings.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!![/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them?[/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them? Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ??[/p][/quote]I don't think that will happen Daz unless the take over fails. The Ritchie give away was supposed to tie us over to take care of the January outgoings. old town robin
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6:45pm Wed 13 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

Well let's hope Sir William has earned enough from this gig to pay for his charisma bypass reversal.
Well let's hope Sir William has earned enough from this gig to pay for his charisma bypass reversal. mancrobin
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7:00pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

Just logged on to see the state of play re the take-over.

And what a surprise - It Ain't Happened Yet.

It'll be tough if we lose the chance to sign the loanees that we thought we had at the end of Jan, but you can't blame their parent club if they off-load them elsewhere. They may need to balance their books and budgets and can't wait forever for the FL to ratify our take-over.

It'll be a shame, as it will no doubt weaken our chances of auto-promotion.

Like LR states, the league is very tight and I think its still up for grabs for any of the current top 7 teams. So why not us.

I do feel that the whole timing of the take-over has given us a disadvantage. By the delay, maybe caused by the FL, maybe not, this has handed a huge advantage to our challengers by weakening our position.

Is it the FL's fault or our current owner hitting the self-destruct button?

Going back to sleep now. Wake me again if there's any new news
Just logged on to see the state of play re the take-over. And what a surprise - It Ain't Happened Yet. It'll be tough if we lose the chance to sign the loanees that we thought we had at the end of Jan, but you can't blame their parent club if they off-load them elsewhere. They may need to balance their books and budgets and can't wait forever for the FL to ratify our take-over. It'll be a shame, as it will no doubt weaken our chances of auto-promotion. Like LR states, the league is very tight and I think its still up for grabs for any of the current top 7 teams. So why not us. I do feel that the whole timing of the take-over has given us a disadvantage. By the delay, maybe caused by the FL, maybe not, this has handed a huge advantage to our challengers by weakening our position. Is it the FL's fault or our current owner hitting the self-destruct button? Going back to sleep now. Wake me again if there's any new news Rebel_phish
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7:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

super reds says...

RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!!
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!! super reds
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7:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

super reds says...

RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!!
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!! super reds
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7:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

mancrobin wrote:
Well let's hope Sir William has earned enough from this gig to pay for his charisma bypass reversal.
Didn't know he had any to start with. If any of the project managers I worked for were as vague as SWP then we would have got nothing done. Typical diplomatic speak but to me he was in to do the job. You can either take people on-side with you and explain the terrain and difficulties as you go, keeping them on board, or ignore people do it your way, cards close to chest, speak to people on a need to know basis, which is what he did. Technically nothing wrong with that, but the downside is it gives birth to mis trust, no trust, back biting and rumour, and that element only snow balls into greater confusion as nobody knows what the heck is going on. Keeping people in the dark only promotes fear of some impending doom, gloom and despondency, definitely not the way to treat intelligent folk, the self same folk who put their hands into their pockets each week to keep your business afloat. The further non disclosure agreement served to further keeping supporters in the dark as to what is going on. Typical cloak and dagger stuff, to serve what purpose I wonder ??????
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Well let's hope Sir William has earned enough from this gig to pay for his charisma bypass reversal.[/p][/quote]Didn't know he had any to start with. If any of the project managers I worked for were as vague as SWP then we would have got nothing done. Typical diplomatic speak but to me he was in to do the job. You can either take people on-side with you and explain the terrain and difficulties as you go, keeping them on board, or ignore people do it your way, cards close to chest, speak to people on a need to know basis, which is what he did. Technically nothing wrong with that, but the downside is it gives birth to mis trust, no trust, back biting and rumour, and that element only snow balls into greater confusion as nobody knows what the heck is going on. Keeping people in the dark only promotes fear of some impending doom, gloom and despondency, definitely not the way to treat intelligent folk, the self same folk who put their hands into their pockets each week to keep your business afloat. The further non disclosure agreement served to further keeping supporters in the dark as to what is going on. Typical cloak and dagger stuff, to serve what purpose I wonder ?????? the wizard
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7:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13

super reds says...

old town robin wrote:
class wrote:
Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month!
My daughter said he had won it, haven't seen anything on Sky, so assume as per your post he is just a nominee, he certainly deserves it, but for some past winners it seem to be a poison challis.
Wes up for player OTM as well
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]class[/bold] wrote: Great news (?) Paolo is up for manager of the month![/p][/quote]My daughter said he had won it, haven't seen anything on Sky, so assume as per your post he is just a nominee, he certainly deserves it, but for some past winners it seem to be a poison challis.[/p][/quote]Wes up for player OTM as well super reds
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7:06pm Wed 13 Feb 13

madterrier says...

old town robin wrote:
London Red wrote:
On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP!
I haven't heard that LR, but wouldn't be surprised that Spencer was a key player in at least one of the bids . If Patey had anything to offer it would have been with his middle east contacts for which he obviously did not get any success
I think that Spencer/Backhouse were responsible for putting all three loan deals together.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: On the SWP worth debate - I heard Phil Spencer had more to do with securing the deal than SWP![/p][/quote]I haven't heard that LR, but wouldn't be surprised that Spencer was a key player in at least one of the bids . If Patey had anything to offer it would have been with his middle east contacts for which he obviously did not get any success[/p][/quote]I think that Spencer/Backhouse were responsible for putting all three loan deals together. madterrier
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7:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
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I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
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I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all. Oi Den!
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7:13pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

Sorry - couple of typos in my post above. Poor proof-reading!
Sorry - couple of typos in my post above. Poor proof-reading! Oi Den!
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7:15pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Steve. Brentford says...

super reds wrote:
RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!!
Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O)
[quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!![/p][/quote]Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O) Steve. Brentford
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7:18pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
super reds wrote:
RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!!
Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O)
So does he call himself Yed, LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!![/p][/quote]Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O)[/p][/quote]So does he call himself Yed, LOL. the wizard
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7:18pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

PDC, Smith (Walsall) and Johnson (Yeovil) the three L1 nominees. Not sure they can give it to Johnson, Yeovil only had three league fixtures (but won all).
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Wes, Jones (Doncaster) and Madden (Yeovil) the players. Only one goal conceded by Wes.
PDC, Smith (Walsall) and Johnson (Yeovil) the three L1 nominees. Not sure they can give it to Johnson, Yeovil only had three league fixtures (but won all). * Wes, Jones (Doncaster) and Madden (Yeovil) the players. Only one goal conceded by Wes. RamsburyRed
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7:25pm Wed 13 Feb 13

madterrier says...

Some wag on Radio Five Live, in discussing Mourinho's next move to England, suggested Di Canio to Stamford Bridge and Mourinho to Swindon.

Makes sense, although would PDC get on with the Russian interference?
Some wag on Radio Five Live, in discussing Mourinho's next move to England, suggested Di Canio to Stamford Bridge and Mourinho to Swindon. Makes sense, although would PDC get on with the Russian interference? madterrier
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7:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

super reds says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
super reds wrote:
RedArmy74 wrote:
NewburyRobin wrote:
ChrisWantageRed wrote:
Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed!
I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail.
Is he under a pseudonym?.
@JedMcCoy

Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'
Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!!
Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O)
Wouldn't that make him McCwowy in that case???
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy74[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewburyRobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: Jed has just tweeted a "thumbs up". So I'm assuming the takeover has been completed![/p][/quote]I have been looking for Jed McCrory on twitter since all this began to no avail. Is he under a pseudonym?.[/p][/quote]@JedMcCoy Just tweeted 'James Brown..... I Feel Good...'[/p][/quote]Why would McCrory tweet under McCoy??? Just asking!![/p][/quote]Maybe he is like J Ross and cant pronounce his R`s :O)[/p][/quote]Wouldn't that make him McCwowy in that case??? super reds
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7:33pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Steve. Brentford says...

Haha OK,forgetful then.
Haha OK,forgetful then. Steve. Brentford
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8:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

madterrier wrote:
Some wag on Radio Five Live, in discussing Mourinho's next move to England, suggested Di Canio to Stamford Bridge and Mourinho to Swindon.

Makes sense, although would PDC get on with the Russian interference?
The some wag being Alan Green :)
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: Some wag on Radio Five Live, in discussing Mourinho's next move to England, suggested Di Canio to Stamford Bridge and Mourinho to Swindon. Makes sense, although would PDC get on with the Russian interference?[/p][/quote]The some wag being Alan Green :) The Jockster
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8:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

old town robin wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!!
But who's going to pay for them?
But who's going to pay for them? Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ??
I don't think that will happen Daz unless the take over fails. The Ritchie give away was supposed to tie us over to take care of the January outgoings.
Hope your right mate...
BUT We dint think Ritchie was going to be sold for 500k

Hope i'm wrong but i cant see the take-over going through as it is taking way to long...

Then what happens when need money to see the club through February ?
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: If the FL were to lift the embargo on us signing the loanees we need, I don't think anyone on this forum would really care a toss when the transfer of ownership takes place, simple as that!![/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them?[/p][/quote]But who's going to pay for them? Well if thats the case,what player or even players will be sold next ??[/p][/quote]I don't think that will happen Daz unless the take over fails. The Ritchie give away was supposed to tie us over to take care of the January outgoings.[/p][/quote]Hope your right mate... BUT We dint think Ritchie was going to be sold for 500k Hope i'm wrong but i cant see the take-over going through as it is taking way to long... Then what happens when need money to see the club through February ? DarrenSTFCRomain
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8:22pm Wed 13 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

I see Cheltenham have cooled on the Pack move. See the BBC Football site.
I see Cheltenham have cooled on the Pack move. See the BBC Football site. mancrobin
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8:23pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Just seen on Facebook they think thedeal will ot be completed until the midle of next week after positive talks today, this is taking longer than a tax refund.....
Just seen on Facebook they think thedeal will ot be completed until the midle of next week after positive talks today, this is taking longer than a tax refund..... Is that you Lovesey
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8:31pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

The uneasy feeling doesn't get any easier.
The uneasy feeling doesn't get any easier. Oi Den!
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8:33pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

old town robin wrote:
the wizard wrote:
As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus.
Nice one Wiz, made me laugh and already passed it ont a few friends.
Just a few more then,

Tesco's have released a new liquor to compliment their range of burgers, They're calling it 'Red Rum'.

To beef or not to beef, That is equestrian

I hear the smaller version of those Tesco burgers make great horse d'oeuvres

A cow walks into a bar. Barman says 'why the long face?' Cow says 'Illegal ingredients, coming over here stealing our jobs!

Tesco are now testing all their vegetarian burgers for traces of uniquorn

Tesco Quarter Pounders: The affordable way to buy your daughter the pony that she's always wanted!

Valentines day tomorrow ......I hope to get a card from......Moonpig...
although she hates it when I call her that

Paddy sets Mick up on a blind date, "She really is a lovely girl, but there is something you should know, she's expecting a baby"

"OK" says Mick, "I'll give it a try"
Next day Paddy says, "Oi how did it go",

Mick, "Well she was half an hour late and I felt awful sat at the bar with just a bib and nappy on"
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: As they lay frozen side by side in the Lasagne, Shergar turned to Black Beauty and said, "Bloody great hiding place, but I knew they were always going to Findus.[/p][/quote]Nice one Wiz, made me laugh and already passed it ont a few friends.[/p][/quote]Just a few more then, Tesco's have released a new liquor to compliment their range of burgers, They're calling it 'Red Rum'. To beef or not to beef, That is equestrian I hear the smaller version of those Tesco burgers make great horse d'oeuvres A cow walks into a bar. Barman says 'why the long face?' Cow says 'Illegal ingredients, coming over here stealing our jobs! Tesco are now testing all their vegetarian burgers for traces of uniquorn Tesco Quarter Pounders: The affordable way to buy your daughter the pony that she's always wanted! Valentines day tomorrow ......I hope to get a card from......Moonpig... although she hates it when I call her that Paddy sets Mick up on a blind date, "She really is a lovely girl, but there is something you should know, she's expecting a baby" "OK" says Mick, "I'll give it a try" Next day Paddy says, "Oi how did it go", Mick, "Well she was half an hour late and I felt awful sat at the bar with just a bib and nappy on" the wizard
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8:35pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

One I forgot,

A young blonde girl in her late teens, wanting to earn some extra money for the summer, decided to hire herself out as a "handy woman" and started canvassing a nearby well-to-do neighborhood.

She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any odd jobs for her to do.

"Well, I guess I could use somebody to paint the porch" he said. "How much will you charge me?"

Delighted, the girl quickly responded, "How about £50?"

The man agreed and told her that the paint, brushes and everything she would need were in the garage.

The man's wife, hearing the conversation, said to her husband, "Does she realize that our porch goes ALL the way around the house?"

"That's a bit cynical, isn't it?" he responded.


The wife replied, "You're right. I guess I'm starting to believe all those dumb blonde jokes."


A few hours later the blonde came to the door to collect her money..

"You're finished already??" the startled husband asked.


"Yes," the blonde replied, "and I even had paint left over so I gave it two coats."

Impressed, the man reached into his pocket for the £50 and handed it to her along with a £10 tip.


"Thank you," the blonde said, "And, by the way, it's not a Porch, it's an Audi."
One I forgot, A young blonde girl in her late teens, wanting to earn some extra money for the summer, decided to hire herself out as a "handy woman" and started canvassing a nearby well-to-do neighborhood. She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any odd jobs for her to do. "Well, I guess I could use somebody to paint the porch" he said. "How much will you charge me?" Delighted, the girl quickly responded, "How about £50?" The man agreed and told her that the paint, brushes and everything she would need were in the garage. The man's wife, hearing the conversation, said to her husband, "Does she realize that our porch goes ALL the way around the house?" "That's a bit cynical, isn't it?" he responded. The wife replied, "You're right. I guess I'm starting to believe all those dumb blonde jokes." A few hours later the blonde came to the door to collect her money.. "You're finished already??" the startled husband asked. "Yes," the blonde replied, "and I even had paint left over so I gave it two coats." Impressed, the man reached into his pocket for the £50 and handed it to her along with a £10 tip. "Thank you," the blonde said, "And, by the way, it's not a Porch, it's an Audi." the wizard
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8:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
.
I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
.
I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point.
Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.[/p][/quote]Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point. Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. old town robin
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8:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
.
I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
.
I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point.
Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Den's itching to reply but the last word comment is bugging him - or does he use his pseudo account - I say all in humour and hope taken that way. :o)
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.[/p][/quote]Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point. Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.[/p][/quote]Den's itching to reply but the last word comment is bugging him - or does he use his pseudo account - I say all in humour and hope taken that way. :o) Chish and Fips
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8:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

the wizard wrote:
One I forgot,

A young blonde girl in her late teens, wanting to earn some extra money for the summer, decided to hire herself out as a "handy woman" and started canvassing a nearby well-to-do neighborhood.

She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any odd jobs for her to do.

"Well, I guess I could use somebody to paint the porch" he said. "How much will you charge me?"

Delighted, the girl quickly responded, "How about £50?"

The man agreed and told her that the paint, brushes and everything she would need were in the garage.

The man's wife, hearing the conversation, said to her husband, "Does she realize that our porch goes ALL the way around the house?"

"That's a bit cynical, isn't it?" he responded.


The wife replied, "You're right. I guess I'm starting to believe all those dumb blonde jokes."


A few hours later the blonde came to the door to collect her money..

"You're finished already??" the startled husband asked.


"Yes," the blonde replied, "and I even had paint left over so I gave it two coats."

Impressed, the man reached into his pocket for the £50 and handed it to her along with a £10 tip.


"Thank you," the blonde said, "And, by the way, it's not a Porch, it's an Audi."
My god Wiz they get worse - still amusing though ;o)
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: One I forgot, A young blonde girl in her late teens, wanting to earn some extra money for the summer, decided to hire herself out as a "handy woman" and started canvassing a nearby well-to-do neighborhood. She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any odd jobs for her to do. "Well, I guess I could use somebody to paint the porch" he said. "How much will you charge me?" Delighted, the girl quickly responded, "How about £50?" The man agreed and told her that the paint, brushes and everything she would need were in the garage. The man's wife, hearing the conversation, said to her husband, "Does she realize that our porch goes ALL the way around the house?" "That's a bit cynical, isn't it?" he responded. The wife replied, "You're right. I guess I'm starting to believe all those dumb blonde jokes." A few hours later the blonde came to the door to collect her money.. "You're finished already??" the startled husband asked. "Yes," the blonde replied, "and I even had paint left over so I gave it two coats." Impressed, the man reached into his pocket for the £50 and handed it to her along with a £10 tip. "Thank you," the blonde said, "And, by the way, it's not a Porch, it's an Audi."[/p][/quote]My god Wiz they get worse - still amusing though ;o) Chish and Fips
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9:02pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried.
Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried. the wizard
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9:13pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

the wizard wrote:
Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried.
Good on ya Wiz we all need some light hearted input after all the official cr@p we have gone through the last few weeks.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried.[/p][/quote]Good on ya Wiz we all need some light hearted input after all the official cr@p we have gone through the last few weeks. Chish and Fips
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9:21pm Wed 13 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried.
Good on ya Wiz we all need some light hearted input after all the official cr@p we have gone through the last few weeks.
Chish, we used to get days on here when posters would put up jokes etc, we all seem to have forgotten how to laugh these days. What is going on is all serious, but none of us can change that, so some light hearted banter isn't so out of place really, you have just not heard me on the piano these days, have you ? Awful, dropped and missed more notes than ever, practice needed, perhaps I should get down to Liddington....LOL
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Chish, Cheers, but my better ones could not be put on here I assure you. I have merely tried to lift the mood with a bit of humour, sorry its not up to standard, but at least I've tried.[/p][/quote]Good on ya Wiz we all need some light hearted input after all the official cr@p we have gone through the last few weeks.[/p][/quote]Chish, we used to get days on here when posters would put up jokes etc, we all seem to have forgotten how to laugh these days. What is going on is all serious, but none of us can change that, so some light hearted banter isn't so out of place really, you have just not heard me on the piano these days, have you ? Awful, dropped and missed more notes than ever, practice needed, perhaps I should get down to Liddington....LOL the wizard
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9:22pm Wed 13 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Can the club really not tell us at least some news from today officially?

Pateys comments in this article could have been given a week ago and if the league agreed the deal today, why not issue a "league have agreed the deal. But the paperwork will take a few days to be registered" statement.

It may be that the answers to questions raised today have raised further investigation by the league.

Whatever the case, it would not be breaking the NDA to issue a formal update.
Can the club really not tell us at least some news from today officially? Pateys comments in this article could have been given a week ago and if the league agreed the deal today, why not issue a "league have agreed the deal. But the paperwork will take a few days to be registered" statement. It may be that the answers to questions raised today have raised further investigation by the league. Whatever the case, it would not be breaking the NDA to issue a formal update. LydiardRED67
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9:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RamsburyRed says...

Quite right. At the risk of getting serious again (sorry) there should really be some kind of official update on this. We all know there was a meeting today, and we know the takeover has not gone through. So what is the delay? What are we now waiting for? As many have mentioned above, this will impact on our results (already has) as we are short of players and the FL will not allow us to bring any in.
Quite right. At the risk of getting serious again (sorry) there should really be some kind of official update on this. We all know there was a meeting today, and we know the takeover has not gone through. So what is the delay? What are we now waiting for? As many have mentioned above, this will impact on our results (already has) as we are short of players and the FL will not allow us to bring any in. RamsburyRed
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9:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

hg191a says...

I feel we have to remember the non disclosure situation at the club the takeover is nearly done if it was not going through we would of known by now I reckon done by mon players in by weds league tittle won in April now there's a treble worth talking about
I feel we have to remember the non disclosure situation at the club the takeover is nearly done if it was not going through we would of known by now I reckon done by mon players in by weds league tittle won in April now there's a treble worth talking about hg191a
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10:03pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
.
I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
.
I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point.
Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.[/p][/quote]Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point. Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.[/p][/quote]Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry. Oi Den!
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10:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
.
I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
.
I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point.
Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry.
It's a strange old season. The way we have demolished Tranmere, Bournemouth and Yeovil at home, yet lost to Orient and Colchester and drawn with bottom of table Hartlepool just shows anyone can take points off anyone if they play well on the day. Is that stating the obvious lol? Lots of twists and turns to come....
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.[/p][/quote]Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point. Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.[/p][/quote]Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry.[/p][/quote]It's a strange old season. The way we have demolished Tranmere, Bournemouth and Yeovil at home, yet lost to Orient and Colchester and drawn with bottom of table Hartlepool just shows anyone can take points off anyone if they play well on the day. Is that stating the obvious lol? Lots of twists and turns to come.... Wilesy
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10:57pm Wed 13 Feb 13

forzaswindon12 says...

London Red wrote:
Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means!
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Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points
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If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process
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Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd!
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Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc)
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Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means
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Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game!
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Then another tough home game against Doncaster!
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They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park
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They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is!
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I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!!
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Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case!
I think we can still challenge bournemouth for the title, but we'll need 3-4 good loans to come in asap after the takeovers confirmed, and preferably including the 3 that were originally coming.
I also think we could do with a better back up keeper just in case wes gets suspended or injured. Im surprised nobody else has picked up on this, we're heavily reliant on him between the sticks and wouldnt want to be relying on a youth team player in goal even for a game or two.
we've also only got roberts and de vita on the wing now good as those two are no back up really. (so 2 more wingers needed aswell as a CM, striker and keeper)
On the remaining fixtures we've got 6 of the top 8 to play away from home (looks difficult, yeovil are in top form) so it was a good job we took 4 points off bournemouth.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Bournemouth have NOT won the league yet by any means! . Like us (an the other 5 in contention) they have some tricky games coming up so are likely to drop points . If they don't - they will win the league and fair play to them - but by doing that they could also pave the way for us to finish 2nd - as they will have stopped pretty much ALL our rivals in the process . Now I would prefer the title but will be more than happy with 2nd! . Bournemouth have Preston away next - with Westley going that is not as easy as it was - as we saw when we faced teams changing their manager (Coventry, Colchester etc) . Then they have Sheff U and Coventry at home - not givens by any means . Then a Tricky trip to Orient's beach party - which we and Tranmere have seen is a tough game! . Then another tough home game against Doncaster! . They then have to go to Oldham, Colchester and Shrewsbury who are all fighting for their lives so they won't be a walk in the park . They then end the season at Tranmere - who could be in a 7 way battle for pormotion if it stays as it is! . I can't be asked at this point to do a mini league for the top 7 but there will be at least 4 or 5 encounters for each side in the run in - so the league is still anyones INCLUDING OURS!!!! . Sorry I must have got confused as I thought we had gone 11 unbeaten - not lost 11 in a row as the way some are talking you would think that was the case![/p][/quote]I think we can still challenge bournemouth for the title, but we'll need 3-4 good loans to come in asap after the takeovers confirmed, and preferably including the 3 that were originally coming. I also think we could do with a better back up keeper just in case wes gets suspended or injured. Im surprised nobody else has picked up on this, we're heavily reliant on him between the sticks and wouldnt want to be relying on a youth team player in goal even for a game or two. we've also only got roberts and de vita on the wing now good as those two are no back up really. (so 2 more wingers needed aswell as a CM, striker and keeper) On the remaining fixtures we've got 6 of the top 8 to play away from home (looks difficult, yeovil are in top form) so it was a good job we took 4 points off bournemouth. forzaswindon12
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11:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

Wilesy, you're right of course. It's not just a strange old season though, it's a strange old game. Twists and turns to come, that's for sure. At the end of it all, no doubt we'll be ruing some lost points but if we're realistic we'll recognise that other clubs will be doing exactly the same.
Wilesy, you're right of course. It's not just a strange old season though, it's a strange old game. Twists and turns to come, that's for sure. At the end of it all, no doubt we'll be ruing some lost points but if we're realistic we'll recognise that other clubs will be doing exactly the same. Oi Den!
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11:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

old town robin says...

Wilesy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run!
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I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.
Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception).

Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front.

Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.
OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run.
I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish.
I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home.
We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football.
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I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.
Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point.
Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry.
It's a strange old season. The way we have demolished Tranmere, Bournemouth and Yeovil at home, yet lost to Orient and Colchester and drawn with bottom of table Hartlepool just shows anyone can take points off anyone if they play well on the day. Is that stating the obvious lol? Lots of twists and turns to come....
Den, it's past 11.00 and if it was not time to call it a night I could probably analyse the games you have mentioned. You seem to completely lose the point I have tried to make, we lost against Colchester from a very badly defended free kick, not because they were better than us. Coventry I won't argue about other than they were on a high with Robbins coming in, but no way were they a better team than us. Macclesfield was the worse performance of the season, under strength side I don't know what the problem was, but I don't think Paolo put out his best team. It cost us big time and if we had got that next round game against Barrow we might have just gone on to earn a bob or two in the 3rd round which may have prevented Ritchie being sold for peanuts.

hey Den, I'm calling it a day, there is hardly anything we've ever agreed on , but at the end of tnhe day we both support our team, may long it continue.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: It's certainly true that we always seem to need somebody to blame. If we start losing games, stand by to hear that refereeing standards have mysteriously slipped, after being barely mentioned during our successful run! . I suppose it is difficult to reach a definite conclusion about Patey but I do think he could have been more communicative with the manager and fans. It seems quite clear that there was no open channel between PDC and the board after Wray left. Also, I find it irritating that after refusing to discuss ground redevelepment during his tenure, he wants to talk about it as he walks out through the door.[/p][/quote]Den, Of course someone or something has to take the blame if we lose games, the ref, the managers selection, subs, tatics, the players, the pitch, whatever, it doesn't matter who or what the reason is, true fans will always analyse why we lost a game and will very rarely come up with the conclusion the opposition were better, (Preston on the day have been the one exception). Sorry if you don't agree, but from all the games at home, there has not been a team I've seen that I consider have out played us, if we have dropped points it has been because of individual mistakes at the back and inability to convert the many chances we create up front. Concur with you on Patey, he will hardly go down in history of the club with anything rememberable.[/p][/quote]OTR, you seem to imply that true Town fans will never accept that we can be deservedly beaten. I hope most of us are more open-minded than that. Results generally speak for themselves. It's very rare that any team can look back on a game and say they genuinely deserved more than they got. I would concede that occasionally we may be genuinely unlucky, but if it happens to us then it happens to everyone else as well, so it all evens out in the long run. I think we are exactly where we deserve to be now, and we'll finish where we deserve to finish. I'm not sure I'd agree that only Preston have outplayed us this season. Coventry gave us a football lesson and had us chasing shadows for 70 minutes. In that last 20 minutes we came back from two down to get a draw. Coventry fans might say they deserved to win that one. I would disagree with them. Colchester came to the County Ground as relegation canditates and played patient football along the ground, while we hoofed it. Even Macclesfield did the same. Both were worthy winners. If I'm not mistaken, you - like me - have bemoaned the quality of our football at times this season. So I'm surprised that you think nobody has outplayed us at home. We could have pasted Hartlepool on Saturday but I thought they deserved their point for the sensible way they approached the game and, again, for playing good football. . I'm not trying to put our boys down. We are a good side, which is why we sit so high in the table. But we have been poor on occasions, and where other sides have taken points off us it's generally been because on the day we haven't done in enough. There's no shame in that. You can't win 'em all.[/p][/quote]Den, Nine times out of ten I don't have a problem with you having the last word, but this time I'm coming back to argue your point. Agreed there have been a few home performances that have seen us below par, that's why we have dropped so many points at our fortress. That doesn't mean teams have out-played us off the park, if you read my post I clearly said we have dropped points because of individual mistakes at the back (e.g, Hollands own goal) and missed chances up front, (too many to even count). Granted, there are teams that have given good account of themselves, but I have not seen ANY team at the CG I would consider better than us and we should not have beaten. I really fail to understand why you seem to see things differently to almost everyone else in the ground, but hey-ho it's your opinion and you're entitled to it.[/p][/quote]Come on OTR, we all see things differently. I think there might be a few other people who thought Colchester, Macclesfield and Coventry were worthy of their reward on the day. I'm not sure how we can conclude that we SHOULD have beaten those teams. Of course the results don't make them better than us. On the contrary, the League tables tell us we're better than them. All I'm saying is we should take the rough with the smooth - no more and no less than that. Individual mistakes, own goals and missed chances are all part of the performance... yep, we've had 'em - and so has everyone else. We may well end up winning the title, in which case we'll have the proof that nobody's better than us. But whoever wins the title will have won some, lost some and drawn some - and no doubt felt they should have beaten teams they didn't. That's football. We're just one of the teams that make up its rich tapestry.[/p][/quote]It's a strange old season. The way we have demolished Tranmere, Bournemouth and Yeovil at home, yet lost to Orient and Colchester and drawn with bottom of table Hartlepool just shows anyone can take points off anyone if they play well on the day. Is that stating the obvious lol? Lots of twists and turns to come....[/p][/quote]Den, it's past 11.00 and if it was not time to call it a night I could probably analyse the games you have mentioned. You seem to completely lose the point I have tried to make, we lost against Colchester from a very badly defended free kick, not because they were better than us. Coventry I won't argue about other than they were on a high with Robbins coming in, but no way were they a better team than us. Macclesfield was the worse performance of the season, under strength side I don't know what the problem was, but I don't think Paolo put out his best team. It cost us big time and if we had got that next round game against Barrow we might have just gone on to earn a bob or two in the 3rd round which may have prevented Ritchie being sold for peanuts. hey Den, I'm calling it a day, there is hardly anything we've ever agreed on , but at the end of tnhe day we both support our team, may long it continue. old town robin
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12:10am Thu 14 Feb 13

SimonPrice351 says...

The more this drags on (like an Oxford's fan knuckles on the pavement) the more I am beginning to wonder if they actually have the money needed to complete the deal....

Remember when Doug Ellis put Villa up for sale? That deal was done lightning quick in comparison. Okay, Villa might not have done as well as they'd like under Randy Lerner, but he put money in quickly and Doug agreed the sale to him.

Or what are the add-on's to this deal - i.e. what do the new owners really want for their money?

Something does not seem right.. it reminds me of a story I read about some twit who promised a club £10,000 to stop them from going bust and then disappeared off the face of the earth...

It does not take ages to transfer money over - banks send millions to/from each other on a daily basis, so these guys should have funds ready to deposit instantly. So as God would say in Monty Python:

'GET ON WITH IT!'
The more this drags on (like an Oxford's fan knuckles on the pavement) the more I am beginning to wonder if they actually have the money needed to complete the deal.... Remember when Doug Ellis put Villa up for sale? That deal was done lightning quick in comparison. Okay, Villa might not have done as well as they'd like under Randy Lerner, but he put money in quickly and Doug agreed the sale to him. Or what are the add-on's to this deal - i.e. what do the new owners really want for their money? Something does not seem right.. it reminds me of a story I read about some twit who promised a club £10,000 to stop them from going bust and then disappeared off the face of the earth... It does not take ages to transfer money over - banks send millions to/from each other on a daily basis, so these guys should have funds ready to deposit instantly. So as God would say in Monty Python: 'GET ON WITH IT!' SimonPrice351
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9:59am Thu 14 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

OTR, funnily enough I don't think we really disagree on this at all. We both believe we have one of the best teams in the division and we've both said that, for whatever reason, on some days we've come up short. Isn't that just the nature of the game?
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I think it all comes back to what we both said at the start of this little exchange. Some Town fans, instead of accepting that we weren't good enough on a particular day, will look for excuses. When our opposition has an off day, I don't doubt that some of their fans do exactly the same. But surely everyone would accept that the ups and downs of football - including the whims of Lady Luck - affect all clubs?
OTR, funnily enough I don't think we really disagree on this at all. We both believe we have one of the best teams in the division and we've both said that, for whatever reason, on some days we've come up short. Isn't that just the nature of the game? . I think it all comes back to what we both said at the start of this little exchange. Some Town fans, instead of accepting that we weren't good enough on a particular day, will look for excuses. When our opposition has an off day, I don't doubt that some of their fans do exactly the same. But surely everyone would accept that the ups and downs of football - including the whims of Lady Luck - affect all clubs? Oi Den!
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2:48am Fri 15 Feb 13

Krazy Kammy says...

My god it got a bit out of hand on here ! Is this forum not moderated ?
My god it got a bit out of hand on here ! Is this forum not moderated ? Krazy Kammy
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