Can I just ask what Simon's assault has to do with the National Front? Whilst I'm not advocating in any manner the party, it really does seem that trying to whip up hatred in this manner is no better than the activitys of the NF or BNP.
And hyperbole ("This will turn Chippenham into 1930s Germany with little Hitlers running around discriminating against the minorities.") like this really does no good at all. 30 people, out of all of chippenham, turned up at their march. Hardly the Storming of the Reichstagg.

Not the march LordBelacqua, they turned up for our MEETING. We havent had a march through Chippenham.

"Little Hitlers", thats a laugh. I hope that Simon Messenger realises by using damaging and defamating language like this with the aim of disrupting democracy, he might have left himself open to being sued.

We are indeed White Nationalists and not National Socialists. We have grown used to being labelled racists, fascists and haters, but absolutely draw the line at being accused of being members of Adolf Hitlers National Socialist party.

I think that assault on Mr Messenger has left him looking for a target to take it out on and he seen the National Front as an easy target.

Here is some advice Mr Messenger, whilst in general public, if you make yourself stand out by dressing like one of the characters from Brokeback Mountain, you are indeed making yourself a target for thugs.

I dont believe any members of the NF are responsible for this assault and it seems the only reason you added it into this story was to give the impression that it was us that beat you up.

SwindonNF wrote:
Not the march LordBelacqua, they turned up for our MEETING. We havent had a march through Chippenham.

"Little Hitlers", thats a laugh. I hope that Simon Messenger realises by using damaging and defamating language like this with the aim of disrupting democracy, he might have left himself open to being sued.

We are indeed White Nationalists and not National Socialists. We have grown used to being labelled racists, fascists and haters, but absolutely draw the line at being accused of being members of Adolf Hitlers National Socialist party.

I think that assault on Mr Messenger has left him looking for a target to take it out on and he seen the National Front as an easy target.

Here is some advice Mr Messenger, whilst in general public, if you make yourself stand out by dressing like one of the characters from Brokeback Mountain, you are indeed making yourself a target for thugs.

I dont believe any members of the NF are responsible for this assault and it seems the only reason you added it into this story was to give the impression that it was us that beat you up.

Sorry, no-one should expect to be attacked just by how they dress, no matter how different to other people.

I am sure the Mr Messenger will be most appologetic for confusing your racist, bigoted party with another one.

"This will turn Chippenham into 1930s Germany with little Hitlers running around discriminating against the minorities."

Does anyone else think these comments are worthy of a lawsuit?

Dont get me wrong rosco, i am not excusing the thugs that did it, what i am saying is that it was not us, and the only reason i can see him mentioning that attack with this story is to give the impression that it was.
The tactic was to associate thuggery towards us in an attempt to sully our name.

I will be giving Mr Messenger my full support, he is very bold to come out and stand against the NF while supporters of the party hide under ambigious handles. I admire his candour in the face of adversity, and wholeheartly support his stance against the archaic, bigoted and deeply harmful doctrine of the NF.

I'd also like to second the little Hitlers motion, and anyone who wishes to take me to court for defamation is more than welcome to.

Ignore them (NF) and they will crawl under a stone. March against them? It's almost like acknowledging their existence. Pointless.

I find these references to "Hitler" from socialists show an appalling lack of knowledge. The term "Nazi" is short for NSDAP - NationalSocialistsic
he Deutsche ARBEITER PARTEI - ArbeiterPartei being WORKER'S PARTY, their very own soulmates!!

This word "Nazi" is a very convienient buzzword for the lefties who are incapable of debate with a person who opposes multi-culturalism. When this word is mentioned, people get visions of concentration camps, starving Jews, torture, etc. This is and always has been a very powerful brainwashing method that the left and the media have over exhausted. So let me try and explain the difference between a "Nazi" and a British White Nationalist".

Nazi = Member of The National Socialist German Workers Party who has political ideologies that surround a master race and National Socialism.

British White Nationalist = Person who believes in the preservation of white national British identity, as opposed to forced multiculturalism.

The NF has no interest in Nazi Germany whatsoever. We only want back what was wrongfully taken from us. Our country.

SEND THEM BACK!

Herman The Tosser wrote:
SEND THEM BACK!

Who? People from outside Haxby? Vikings? Lancastians? Explain.

NIGRAS.

Herman The Tosser wrote:
NIGRAS.

Couldn't have sex without one!

What happened to people discussing their different viewpoints like adults? I am not a NF supporter, however SwindonNF and I have had these discussions before - without calling each other Nazi!
Simon - maybe you can explain what your assault has to do with the NF? At the moment you are saying you were attacked so you are organising this march. You were a victim of an assault, I sympathise with you, but it is not fair to insinuate that the NF were behind it.
To be honest all marching is going to do is draw the wrong kind of attention to your cause - you will be labelled as trouble before you even get going.

I tend to agree with Tracey here. No need for name calling. (No need for Herman at all). Simon does need to be clear why he's calling for a march and realize it will have little positive effect. By the same token I think that swindonNF does need to be honest and say that many members of the NF have an admiration for Hitler and his followers and like them believe in racial purity. If we get that then we can start a debate.

Rowdey wrote:
I tend to agree with Tracey here. No need for name calling. (No need for Herman at all). Simon does need to be clear why he's calling for a march and realize it will have little positive effect. By the same token I think that swindonNF does need to be honest and say that many members of the NF have an admiration for Hitler and his followers and like them believe in racial purity. If we get that then we can start a debate.

There is no denying that admirers of Hitler and the Nazis have previously infiltrated White Nationalist organisations. They did it for their own reasons and for those people i cannot speak.

But to my knowledge, the Thames Valley unit doesnt have a single one of these people in its ranks. And for LordBelacqua who commented - 30 people, out of all of chippenham, turned up at their march. Hardly the Storming of the Reichstagg - I can inform that this was because the meeting was by invitation only and we only invited 30 people. More people wanted to come, but the venue wasnt big enough.

Can SwindonNF clear something up for me about the National front as I do not know much about them apart from what is in the press, which I appreciate can sometimes not paint the true picture.

In previous posts you said that "British White Nationalist = Person who believes in the preservation of white national British identity, as opposed to forced multiculturalism."

I agree that forced multiculturalism is not a good thing, but isn't people wanting to come to the UK because it is so good a positive thing (so long as those who come want to make a useful contribution to the UK)? Those who want to just live of the state I do not think are welcome (but then there are people that were born in the UK that are like that).

I was born in Chippenham and i think its the greatest town, I think that the UK is the best country on the planet, but I don't care what race or sexual preference people are so long as they want to keep / help make the UK great.

Isn't that what the NF should be about, the continued growth of a great UK utilising the skills and drive of anyone that wants to help?

Simon Messenger where are you marching to? You could march for miles in that time. Please tell me you are marching from Chippenham to Swindon so i can come along at the end and lol @ you and your tired friends.

ChippBorn&Bred wrote:
Can SwindonNF clear something up for me about the National front as I do not know much about them apart from what is in the press, which I appreciate can sometimes not paint the true picture. In previous posts you said that "British White Nationalist = Person who believes in the preservation of white national British identity, as opposed to forced multiculturalism." I agree that forced multiculturalism is not a good thing, but isn't people wanting to come to the UK because it is so good a positive thing (so long as those who come want to make a useful contribution to the UK)? Those who want to just live of the state I do not think are welcome (but then there are people that were born in the UK that are like that). I was born in Chippenham and i think its the greatest town, I think that the UK is the best country on the planet, but I don't care what race or sexual preference people are so long as they want to keep / help make the UK great. Isn't that what the NF should be about, the continued growth of a great UK utilising the skills and drive of anyone that wants to help?

Not only is forced multiculturalism not a good thing, it is, under international laws, against our human rights. We as White British people have the right to exist as people without the FORCED intergration of other races and cultures.
People wanting to come to the UK isnt a positive thing. They are a burden and a hinderance on the indigenous people and a massive cost to the taxpayer.

How many people do you think immigrated here 30 years ago and still havent bothered to learn to speak English? A good place to look at the effects of forced multiculturalism would be to look at one of the most enriched cities in the country.

So lets take a look at Bradford, West Yorkshire. That city has had 4 riots in 6 years (islamic immigrants and their dependents where responsible every time) and according to a survey done by the local rag called The Telegraph And Argos, Four out of ten schoolchildren in Bradford do not speak English as their first language.

Then we where bombed by 3rd generation immigrants. They love our country so much that they bombed it.

And according to a poll carried out by the London Daily Telegraph on Saturday 23rd July 2005, OVER 100,000 MUSLIMS IN BRTAIN BELIEVE THE BRUTAL MURDER OF 52 PEOPLE ON 7/7 WAS FULLY JUSTIFIED!

So do i think the NF should be about utilising skills and drive of anyone that wants to help? My answer is, not over our own people and we definately should not accept another single immigrant until we have 100% employment in this country. Why give them work when we have unemployed Brits? And why allow muslim immigrants to remain in our country when they have clearly shown that they HATE us?

"They are a burden and a hinderance on the indigenous people and a massive cost to the taxpayer."

I would argue that this is only where they are not lending a hand and adding to the economy.

I agree that people not learning the language is a bad thing and people should have to take a language test - which the government are going to implement (I may be wrong).

As for those who choose not to speak English at school as their 1st language, this is wrong. I do not think anyone would disagree.

I have not disputed with you that where things are forced it is a bad thing - but where it has not been forced it has worked.
I know people who came to Britain at the request of the UK in the 50s following the war (these were also people who were under UK rule not through their choice but fought alongside British troops). They came here are worked hard and have contributed to the economy.

As for the atrosities of 7/7, I think that this is disgusting and as for anyone saying it is justified - they are disgusting people (I have heard white people say the same).

With regards not allowing immigration until we have 100% employment, do you really think that this is going to happen? They are old arguements, but are the fruits going to pick themselves? All the jobs that you and I do not want to do, immigrants are doing. Does not allowing immigration extend to those from Austrailia, New Zealand and the USA.

Not all immigrants hate the UK, all some want to do is make a contribution. I agree that we should have 100% employment, who would not, but at least you are open to the fact that immigrants are not a bad thing and they can make a positive difference.

SwindonNF, I noticed you used Bradford as your example and couldn't resist adding my bit lol I lived in Bradford for a while, wqas married to a white man, yorkshire born and bred - I have to say he was lazy, ignorant and more workshy than any people from other nationalities that I met! Don't panic, I saw the light, found the M1 and escaped!! lol

Tracey wrote:
SwindonNF, I noticed you used Bradford as your example and couldn't resist adding my bit lol I lived in Bradford for a while, wqas married to a white man, yorkshire born and bred - I have to say he was lazy, ignorant and more workshy than any people from other nationalities that I met! Don't panic, I saw the light, found the M1 and escaped!! lol

TBH anyone in their right mind would be depressed to the point of disability if they were married to you.

Herman, I am so glad you chose your own name, you put it so much more eloquently than the rest of us ever could! By the way, no-one is fooled - we all know you are really ggnore, back under a new disguise! lol

Ok, first things first. I planned this march with the help of my brother and I'm not even mentioned in the article. Second, leave Simon alone you nazi scum. If you wanna sue go ahead and sue the average settlement is £3,00 plus damages. The point remains that you ARE nazis and you always WILL BE nazis. So just grow up and deal with the fact that you live in an INTEGRATED society and that it is a good thing.

- C sXe

SwindonNF wrote:
Not the march LordBelacqua, they turned up for our MEETING. We havent had a march through Chippenham.

"Little Hitlers", thats a laugh. I hope that Simon Messenger realises by using damaging and defamating language like this with the aim of disrupting democracy, he might have left himself open to being sued.

We are indeed White Nationalists and not National Socialists. We have grown used to being labelled racists, fascists and haters, but absolutely draw the line at being accused of being members of Adolf Hitlers National Socialist party.

I think that assault on Mr Messenger has left him looking for a target to take it out on and he seen the National Front as an easy target.

Here is some advice Mr Messenger, whilst in general public, if you make yourself stand out by dressing like one of the characters from Brokeback Mountain, you are indeed making yourself a target for thugs.

I dont believe any members of the NF are responsible for this assault and it seems the only reason you added it into this story was to give the impression that it was us that beat you up.

You are the worst kind of scum imaginable. Do you have ANY IDEA what it was like to see my brother in such a bad way? Don't take the ****. This march was my idea and I stand by every comment I make about you, evolution has moved past you and your pathetic excuses for 'keeping the country white' you are just a racist. Why can't you admit it? at least it would be honest.

- C sXe

Hello

Sorry about all the confusion, that article is about 10% mine, and 90% fabrication. To anyone who was upset by my alleged 'little Hitler’s' quote, you can't be mad at me because I didn't say it, give Scott at the Gazette in Chippenham a ring, I will be!

However what I did say was that a strong concern of mine is that the targeted audience is the youth's in the schools, and no-one can deny that this is because youths are apathetic and constantly look to blame others for everything, forgive the mass generalisation, but largely it is true. We've all been there, Herman I don't think you've actually left wherever 'there' is, and is 'there' in Swindon by any chance?

As for the comments on 7/7: This was a brutal and disgusting attack on our country by thugs, the same as every night there is a brutal and disgusting attack on one of our citizens by thugs. The colour of the skin is neither here nor there, and in fairness the only Muslim’s (a fair few I hasten to add) I have ever met were so outraged at the attack they were ashamed to be Muslim’s, but were proud to be British. Herman, sorry if you can’t understand this anymore, there is a few rather large words here which, unfortunately for you, is integral to the argument. Get back down the pub mate, complain down there.

We will not be marching to Swindon as, funnily enough, it isn't Chippenham. Reading often helps you understand things you know. Now, the main thing that has climbed up my shirt is the attack.

What the attack has to do with my dislike of the NF is precisely this...naff-all! I don't know why it was printed; I don't know what relevance it could possibly have to anything outside of stories of violence, attack and British yob culture. So to anyone making brash claims... sorry you made a fool of yourself.

Yes, the attack was, is and will always be a big part of my life, and however hard I try I can’t ever seem to escape what happened a year ago. But can I say this; it has nothing to do with this march, this protest, the NF, the BNP, Adolf Bleedin’ Hitler, or even Winston Churchill.

To those sticking up for me, thank-you very much, you're support is greatly appreciated and together we can make democracy something worthwhile, at least in our tiny town, after all, it is our town and it is our home, and at home if you don't like something, you fix it!

Nearing the end now, this isn't my march, I, with my brother Chris, am organising this march in protest, but I am running it whilst he is away. Why he wasn’t mentioned at all in the article I don’t know.

Swindon NF: You're wit, poise and overall understanding of what usually is a delicate subject is phenomenal, and you are one of two people in support of the NF I have met who has been able to comprehend arguments in a dignified manner, and express their views elegantly and often poetically...but if I was really in brokeback mountain, well you'd love that wouldn't you "Long-haired hippy type queer leads march against hitleresque NF"...gimme’ a break, I also wear a cap!

Simon Messenger

Herman I don't think you've actually left wherever 'there' is, and is 'there' in Swindon by any chance?

A teenager who makes presumptions based on absolutely no factual knowlege, no wonder you're a leftist boot-licker.

It is our town and it is our home, and at home if you don't like something, you fix it!

Or get someone in, and for me, it'll be the NF!

Swindon NF: You're wit, poise and overall understanding of what usually is a delicate subject is phenomenal

your*

Tracey wrote:
Herman, I am so glad you chose your own name, you put it so much more eloquently than the rest of us ever could! By the way, no-one is fooled - we all know you are really ggnore, back under a new disguise! lol

Better than being back under a new abusive husband with a fat back tbh.

Also, Simon, scroll up and you will see a comment by your brother calling people "nazi scum". Looks like your ill-written, badly punctuated entry has been nulled. Also lol @ you describing any of the words you used as large.

Idiots.

Simonmessenger wrote:
Hello Sorry about all the confusion, that article is about 10% mine, and 90% fabrication. To anyone who was upset by my alleged 'little Hitler’s' quote, you can't be mad at me because I didn't say it, give Scott at the Gazette in Chippenham a ring, I will be! However what I did say was that a strong concern of mine is that the targeted audience is the youth's in the schools, and no-one can deny that this is because youths are apathetic and constantly look to blame others for everything, forgive the mass generalisation, but largely it is true. We've all been there, Herman I don't think you've actually left wherever 'there' is, and is 'there' in Swindon by any chance? As for the comments on 7/7: This was a brutal and disgusting attack on our country by thugs, the same as every night there is a brutal and disgusting attack on one of our citizens by thugs. The colour of the skin is neither here nor there, and in fairness the only Muslim’s (a fair few I hasten to add) I have ever met were so outraged at the attack they were ashamed to be Muslim’s, but were proud to be British. Herman, sorry if you can’t understand this anymore, there is a few rather large words here which, unfortunately for you, is integral to the argument. Get back down the pub mate, complain down there. We will not be marching to Swindon as, funnily enough, it isn't Chippenham. Reading often helps you understand things you know. Now, the main thing that has climbed up my shirt is the attack. What the attack has to do with my dislike of the NF is precisely this...naff-all! I don't know why it was printed; I don't know what relevance it could possibly have to anything outside of stories of violence, attack and British yob culture. So to anyone making brash claims... sorry you made a fool of yourself. Yes, the attack was, is and will always be a big part of my life, and however hard I try I can’t ever seem to escape what happened a year ago. But can I say this; it has nothing to do with this march, this protest, the NF, the BNP, Adolf Bleedin’ Hitler, or even Winston Churchill. To those sticking up for me, thank-you very much, you're support is greatly appreciated and together we can make democracy something worthwhile, at least in our tiny town, after all, it is our town and it is our home, and at home if you don't like something, you fix it! Nearing the end now, this isn't my march, I, with my brother Chris, am organising this march in protest, but I am running it whilst he is away. Why he wasn’t mentioned at all in the article I don’t know. Swindon NF: You're wit, poise and overall understanding of what usually is a delicate subject is phenomenal, and you are one of two people in support of the NF I have met who has been able to comprehend arguments in a dignified manner, and express their views elegantly and often poetically...but if I was really in brokeback mountain, well you'd love that wouldn't you "Long-haired hippy type queer leads march against hitleresque NF"...gimme’ a break, I also wear a cap! Simon Messenger

OK, from the top.

The editor fabricated most of this story did he? well snap. The same newspaper fabricated a story about us aiming our leafletting campaign at schools too. Sorry if you swallowed all of his red hot bullshit. Did it burn on the way down?

What was actually said by Steve Reynolds was "After a lot of Inquiries from the people of Chippenham, particularly the youth, we are planning on doing some activism in the Chippenham area." When the reporter said "What kind of activism?" Steve then replied, "We are planning a march (cancelled, only steve knows why), we post leaflets through doors, hand out leaflets in public places such as shopping centres, sports stadiums, train stations, bus stations, busy car parks, pedestrian areas" he then said "the Young NF Bulldogs also hand out leaflets to their friends in Schools (mainly sixth form, younger than that and its rare they have an interest in politics or they are undecided.) colleges and universities."

From this the reporter decided that we are targetting schools in Chippenham. So if the story you have read in your local rag has prompted this march, then sorry to tell you, but the reporter has fed you a fractionally true story.


As for 7/7 i can tell you, at the time it happened i was in a town called Bolton and i seen with my own eyes, muslims CELEBRATING. Thats just one example, did you see what they done outside the Danish Embassy during the cartoon protests? They where even chanting UK YOU WILL PAY, 7/7 IS ON ITS WAY (godknows what we, the British had done to annoy them this time, but it seems some muslims are just permenantly offended by something or other).

I know you are not marching to Swindon, i was merely joking on where you (or probably the reporter) was saying you was planning a TWO HOUR march. If you marched for 2 solid hours, by sure you would have covered enough milage to have reached Swindon.

And to anyone reading this, there you have heard it straight from the horses mouth that it was not members of the NF who carried out this attack and it was probably an attempt by the reporter to tarnish our name. I dont agree anyone should be beaten up because of the way they dress, but i do understand there is yobs out there that will target people for anything. In fact, had i seen this attack take place, i would have done everything in my power to stop it.

Thanks for your compliment about my ability to put my point accross in a dignified manner. You are also good at voicing your opinion in a sensible way. Unlike your brother who can just about manage a few personal insults and a lot of bad language in his rant.

Have a safe march, i hope it passes peacefully and without any trouble.

SwindonNF

P.S. i dont think Herman is a supporter of the NF at all. I believe he is a lefty that is posing as an NF supporter in an effort to get us a bad name. I can confirm he is NOT a party member, so please dont take that man seriously.

Tracey wrote:
SwindonNF, I noticed you used Bradford as your example and couldn't resist adding my bit lol I lived in Bradford for a while, wqas married to a white man, yorkshire born and bred - I have to say he was lazy, ignorant and more workshy than any people from other nationalities that I met! Don't panic, I saw the light, found the M1 and escaped!! lol

I lived there for a few years too. Right in the heart of Manningham. It is a pure multi-cultural hellhole. When i say multi-cultural i mean 97% Pakistani Muslim. So please understand my views on immigrants come from first hand dealings with them. As much as the lefties like to stereotype everyone with a different view to them on immigration as "Brainwashed", my views are not without foundations. Nobody brainwashed me. I grew up around immigrants, i went to a predominantly muslim school and i know their general mentality. I know how fanatical MOST of them are. Where Simon was saying that the Muslims he knows where on 7/7, ashamed to be Muslim and proud to be British, i can imagine they where, whilst he was in their presence, but privately they will have approved of it.

Out of any White Nationalist you come across, you will find the ones with the most staunch, hardline views have, like myself, lived in a predominantly non-white area at some point.

ChippBorn&Bred wrote:
"They are a burden and a hinderance on the indigenous people and a massive cost to the taxpayer." I would argue that this is only where they are not lending a hand and adding to the economy. I agree that people not learning the language is a bad thing and people should have to take a language test - which the government are going to implement (I may be wrong). As for those who choose not to speak English at school as their 1st language, this is wrong. I do not think anyone would disagree. I have not disputed with you that where things are forced it is a bad thing - but where it has not been forced it has worked. I know people who came to Britain at the request of the UK in the 50s following the war (these were also people who were under UK rule not through their choice but fought alongside British troops). They came here are worked hard and have contributed to the economy. As for the atrosities of 7/7, I think that this is disgusting and as for anyone saying it is justified - they are disgusting people (I have heard white people say the same). With regards not allowing immigration until we have 100% employment, do you really think that this is going to happen? They are old arguements, but are the fruits going to pick themselves? All the jobs that you and I do not want to do, immigrants are doing. Does not allowing immigration extend to those from Austrailia, New Zealand and the USA. Not all immigrants hate the UK, all some want to do is make a contribution. I agree that we should have 100% employment, who would not, but at least you are open to the fact that immigrants are not a bad thing and they can make a positive difference.

You would argue that minorities are only a burden when they are not lending a hand to the economy? Then i would argue that your argument is severely flawed. As i mentioned elsewhere on this news-site, here is a list of organisations, most of them funded by the taxpayer, that will not allow white members or provide a service to white people purely because of the colour of their skin:

most are payed for by their taxpayers money:

BLINK
Black people's mental health association
Black and Asian therapists online
National BME mental health network
Federation of Black housing organizations
The Black Londoners forum
The Black Police association
Positive action in Housing
Asianfaces.co.uk,Asi

an modelling service
Society of Black lawyers,London
Society of Asian lawyers,London
BlackLawyersDirector

y.com
asianjobsite.co.uk
BlackandAsiangrad.ac

.uk
Ethnic media Group
Al-Nisa Muslim Women’s Group
Al-Nur Muslim Women’s Association
Antrim Chinese Community Association
Barnardos Chinese Lay Health Project
Chinese Welfare Association
The Windsor Fellowship
Sponsors for Educational opportunity,(SEO)Lon

don
BlackBritain.co.uk
EthnicBritain.co.uk
emjobsite.co.uk
Link Net Mentoring
Suga fix media arts
Sussex Black police Association
The National Black Writers and Artist Association
Black students Association
UK Black teachers Association
Black UK online
Ashiana Housing Association Ltd.
UK Asian business directory
Asian People's Disability alliance
Asian arts agency
Black Enterprise awards
BlackEngineer.com
AIM magazine
Natwest Bank (Asian Entrepreneurs Unit)
Asian Voice
Black womens rape action Project,BWRAP,London


The Drum,African,asian arts venue,Birmingham
Black training and enterprise group
UK Black Pride
Ethnic Minority Foundation,London
Oshwal Elderly Welfare Association,Surrey
Ethnic Minority and Black Regional Action for Community Empowerment (EMBRACE),Birmingham


MENTER,Regional network for Black / Minority Ethnic (BME) voluntary organisations
Black and Minority Ethnic Elders Group,Scotland
Latin American elderly project,London
Latin American golden years day centre
Naz project London,Sexual health & AIDS prevention(NPL)
The Black Fundraisers Network,London
Black Arts Alliance,Manchester
Southall Black sisters,Middlesex
Black student union
Dudley Black regeneration council
Black Professional events,events planners
Black Health Agency,Manchester
National Association for the advancement of Black people,
African Caribbean Development agency (ACDA)
African caribbean education and training services (ACETS)
Amaani Tallawah mental health support services,Nottingham
APNA arts,Nottingham
Asian day centre,Nottingham
Broxtowe African Caribbean Elders group
BUILD Nottingham Mentor project
Calabash supplementory school
Afrik-African International Network,Nottingham
Asian mens group
Somerset Black development agency (SBDA)
Black families education support group,Bath & somerset


Now lets take a look at the number of organisations that have an exclusive white membership and receiving no government funding:

National Front (but hold on, thats racist)

Forgive me if i am wrong but does anyone else see inequality here?

As for jobs that you or i dont want i think we should MAKE the British unemployed take these jobs and stop their benefits should they choose to not work. That goes for all immigration, including immigrants from the countries that you mentioned, until we genuinely are short of manpower. Even then we could offer financial incentives for upping the birthrate.

And if you think that immigrants can make a positive difference, all i will say on that topic is that i am yet to see it.

Sorry if im wrong but I thought this was a free country and everyone was allowed to have their own opinions to different things, maybe im wrong! Tracey I agree with you ggnore is in disguise!!!

SwindonNF - we could've been neighbours! lol
I agree with you about the domination there, I used to say it was the domino effect lol

ggnore - we all know it is you hiding under the blanket of herman the tosser, or maybe herman is your real name?! You are the only one on here that becomes abusive and personal to anyone. I feel sorry for you, you must find women so scary that you have to hide behind an virtual persona to abuse them.

Anon wrote:
Sorry if im wrong but I thought this was a free country and everyone was allowed to have their own opinions to different things, maybe im wrong! Tracey I agree with you ggnore is in disguise!!!

It is a free country and I for one ENCOURAGE people to have their own opinions. Even if those opinions are the exact opposite to my own. In fact, i like talking to those people best as they add another point of view to the subject make the discussion interesting.

Swindon NF, I've heard the arguments of your kind so many times that sometimes I can't be bothered to prove you wrong. I can be as eloquent as the next person and in fact I am currently reading for a degree in media and cultural studies. So you can take the argument personal if you like, with all your little digs and snide remarks but the fact remains that you still don't have a leg to stand on. You are here for the death rattle of your ideals as they slip down the evolutionary spiral to where they belong: The past. Now on a nicer note I believe what you say about the paper misquoting you, as it has happened to me a number of times. I think however that you will be able to read from the comments here that your 'club' is not wanted here and while I respect your right to an opinion were you ever to open said club I will show up in person with every black, Asian, queer, Muslim and free thinker I know and join the club. It would be illegal to turn us away would it not? I'm sorry for your bad experiences with Muslims in the past, but I have to say that they are just like you, they have their views and they stick to them. They do not all support terrorism, nor are they all terrorists and it's that small minded attitude that gets people angry with you. Most Muslims are regular people just like you, did you take the time to get to know any of them or learn about their culture when you lived among them? It will be easier for all concerned if you just carried on your business and left Chippenham off the agenda regarding 'clubs' and any 'exclusive membership' buildings.

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Any relation, Simon?

Fecking stupid script. Maybe this will be better - http://tinyurl.com/3
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SwindonNF wrote:
P.S. i dont think Herman is a supporter of the NF at all. I believe he is a lefty that is posing as an NF supporter in an effort to get us a bad name. I can confirm he is NOT a party member, so please dont take that man seriously.

that has to be a p**s take...''in an effort to get us a bad name ''...are you having a laugh...you racist, NAZI, murdering scumbags have had a bad name since Moseley...and don't give me semantics...one and the same. Crawl back into your slimy hole.

redcloud wrote:
Swindon NF, I've heard the arguments of your kind so many times that sometimes I can't be bothered to prove you wrong. I can be as eloquent as the next person and in fact I am currently reading for a degree in media and cultural studies. So you can take the argument personal if you like, with all your little digs and snide remarks but the fact remains that you still don't have a leg to stand on. You are here for the death rattle of your ideals as they slip down the evolutionary spiral to where they belong: The past. Now on a nicer note I believe what you say about the paper misquoting you, as it has happened to me a number of times. I think however that you will be able to read from the comments here that your 'club' is not wanted here and while I respect your right to an opinion were you ever to open said club I will show up in person with every black, Asian, queer, Muslim and free thinker I know and join the club. It would be illegal to turn us away would it not? I'm sorry for your bad experiences with Muslims in the past, but I have to say that they are just like you, they have their views and they stick to them. They do not all support terrorism, nor are they all terrorists and it's that small minded attitude that gets people angry with you. Most Muslims are regular people just like you, did you take the time to get to know any of them or learn about their culture when you lived among them? It will be easier for all concerned if you just carried on your business and left Chippenham off the agenda regarding 'clubs' and any 'exclusive membership' buildings.

Little digs and snide remarks? Thats a joke coming from a man who only had personal insults and abuse to offer for his last 2 comments. I am totally sure that rant won you lots of support btw. You shown anyone reading that you are lacking in the ability of even basic discussion and do you think that little speech/rant had encouraged any peaceful person reading that to attend your march? I can tell you that you just put them right off. They now think you are after trouble.

Now the reporter has stirred things a bit here, trying to get the extreme right and the lefties at each others throats. He WANTED you to set up your march (and even fabricated a story about us to prompt you to do so and you fell for it hook line and sinker.) So if either of us marched and there was trouble, having the exlusive on that story wouldnt do his career the slightest bit of harm would it? If there was an all out riot, all the better for him.

The comments here have nothing to do with any decision to set up a unit in Chippenham. Nor do i for that matter. That decision lies with the NF members who reside in Chippenham. If they want to set up a local unit then that would be entirely up to them.

I am sorry to disappoint you on this, but it would not be illegal to refuse anyone a membership of the National Front for any reason at all. We reserve the right to accept or decline any membership requests that we receive.

However, if you want to cry about the unfairness of this, i would point out that the Black Police Association will not allow officers of the white persuasion to enter their ranks solely based on the colour of their skin. So is this illegal? or what about the Black student union? why cant white students join their org? If this is not illegal then why not?

Good luck with the march btw, I hope you dont get attacked by ANTIFA. They have a tendency to do that and then blame us.

All the best and i hope the weather holds off for you.

SwindonNF

Dave wrote:

SwindonNF wrote: P.S. i dont think Herman is a supporter of the NF at all. I believe he is a lefty that is posing as an NF supporter in an effort to get us a bad name. I can confirm he is NOT a party member, so please dont take that man seriously.

that has to be a p**s take...''in an effort to get us a bad name ''...are you having a laugh...you racist, NAZI, murdering scumbags have had a bad name since Moseley...and don't give me semantics...one and the same. Crawl back into your slimy hole.

Well you "Communist Murdering Scumbags" have had a bad name since Stalin. (dont know why i bothered with this man. I dont usually get involved with name calling, its a bit too childish) I like that word you are using. RACIST. It was invented by a communist called Leon Trotsky. He used that word to describe the so-called Slovophiles, who were a people that were extremely proud of their heritage, doesnt this sound very familiar to this situation now?

You see the Slavic people just wanted to preserve their heritage and did not want Russian Communist to direct their every move. Just like we at the NF dont want the puppetmasters of the 3 main to directing our every move and trading our rights to freedom away unopposed.

THIS WORD RACIST MIGHT HOLD LESS WATER IF PEOPLE KNEW THAT ITS INVENTOR, MR LEON TROTSKY, HAS MORE BLOOD ON HIS HANDS THAN ADOLF HITLER HIMSELF. IT WAS DESIGNED TO BULLY PATRIOTIC AND PROUD PEOPLE INTO SILENCE. WELL CALL ME IT ALL YOU LIKE, I WILL CONTINUE TO EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. ITS A RIGHT MY GRANDFATHERS GENERATION RISKED THEIR LIVES FOR AND IF THAT BUZZWORD "RACIST" IS THE BEST YOU CAN DO, THEN I AM ADVISING YOU TO STAND DOWN, YOUR GAME IS WEAK!!!

SwindonNF. I am not a not a supporter of your party on the basis that I cannot condone the discrimination of people simply because of race or creed or sexual orientation. However, at my age it would be fair to say that I am also fed up of seeing our British culture being downtrodden and swept aside in our own backyard. I worry about the hidden agenda of the far right but applaud the articulate manner in which you have put your point over on here. Certainly, far more interesting than the stereotypical lefties and apologists that have responded to you.

tyler durden, you echo my sentiments exactly - maybe we should set up a middle of the road party and stand for election ourselves!

I will vote for any party that gets the likes of Coronation Street or Eastenders banned from our screens

SwindonNF wrote:

redcloud wrote:
Swindon NF, I've heard the arguments of your kind so many times that sometimes I can't be bothered to prove you wrong. I can be as eloquent as the next person and in fact I am currently reading for a degree in media and cultural studies. So you can take the argument personal if you like, with all your little digs and snide remarks but the fact remains that you still don't have a leg to stand on. You are here for the death rattle of your ideals as they slip down the evolutionary spiral to where they belong: The past. Now on a nicer note I believe what you say about the paper misquoting you, as it has happened to me a number of times. I think however that you will be able to read from the comments here that your 'club' is not wanted here and while I respect your right to an opinion were you ever to open said club I will show up in person with every black, Asian, queer, Muslim and free thinker I know and join the club. It would be illegal to turn us away would it not? I'm sorry for your bad experiences with Muslims in the past, but I have to say that they are just like you, they have their views and they stick to them. They do not all support terrorism, nor are they all terrorists and it's that small minded attitude that gets people angry with you. Most Muslims are regular people just like you, did you take the time to get to know any of them or learn about their culture when you lived among them? It will be easier for all concerned if you just carried on your business and left Chippenham off the agenda regarding 'clubs' and any 'exclusive membership' buildings.

Little digs and snide remarks? Thats a joke coming from a man who only had personal insults and abuse to offer for his last 2 comments. I am totally sure that rant won you lots of support btw. You shown anyone reading that you are lacking in the ability of even basic discussion and do you think that little speech/rant had encouraged any peaceful person reading that to attend your march? I can tell you that you just put them right off. They now think you are after trouble.

Now the reporter has stirred things a bit here, trying to get the extreme right and the lefties at each others throats. He WANTED you to set up your march (and even fabricated a story about us to prompt you to do so and you fell for it hook line and sinker.) So if either of us marched and there was trouble, having the exlusive on that story wouldnt do his career the slightest bit of harm would it? If there was an all out riot, all the better for him.

The comments here have nothing to do with any decision to set up a unit in Chippenham. Nor do i for that matter. That decision lies with the NF members who reside in Chippenham. If they want to set up a local unit then that would be entirely up to them.

I am sorry to disappoint you on this, but it would not be illegal to refuse anyone a membership of the National Front for any reason at all. We reserve the right to accept or decline any membership requests that we receive.

However, if you want to cry about the unfairness of this, i would point out that the Black Police Association will not allow officers of the white persuasion to enter their ranks solely based on the colour of their skin. So is this illegal? or what about the Black student union? why cant white students join their org? If this is not illegal then why not?

Good luck with the march btw, I hope you dont get attacked by ANTIFA. They have a tendency to do that and then blame us.

All the best and i hope the weather holds off for you.

SwindonNF

My march and my politics are those of peace. I will not respond to any violence perpetrated against me and nor will anybody with me.

My ability to discuss/debate has been highly praised by a number of academics and other intelligent people so that little dig gets you nowhere.

I disagree with the black police and others who segregate the same as I do with your organisation and I'd lobby just as hard were something like that to happen here. I'm against ANY segregation.

The reporters article, though in error should show you how welcome you and your comments are, however as for 'falling for it' I don't agree because either way I've still proved a point.

I love the underhanded tactic of being deliberatly inflammatory and then making out like I'M the violent yob. Nice.

I'm non violent. can you honestly say you are?

Herman The Tosser wrote:
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Any relation, Simon?

Look Herman. You are such a piece of **** that even the nazis have disowned you, how much further down do you want to go?
Leave the women on here alone and just go away. Neither me nor my brother are related to Melinda Messenger BTW shithead. I'll say that me and Swindon NF are never gonna be friends but even he thinks you are a ****. might be all we'll ever agree on. Nobody cares. Go home.

LordBelacqua wrote:
Can I just ask what Simon's assault has to do with the National Front? Whilst I'm not advocating in any manner the party, it really does seem that trying to whip up hatred in this manner is no better than the activitys of the NF or BNP.
And hyperbole ("This will turn Chippenham into 1930s Germany with little Hitlers running around discriminating against the minorities.") like this really does no good at all. 30 people, out of all of chippenham, turned up at their march. Hardly the Storming of the Reichstagg.

I agree with you, the article they wrote is rubbish. Simon was attacked by Chavs with no balls who need to attack in huge groups because they can't fight one on one. Simon did not even mention it to the best of my knowledge during the planning of our protest. Simon has also said that he has been egregiously misquoted throughout the article. The fact remains though, that the NF have repeatedly caused nothing but trouble througout recent history, with lots of violence and race crimes. I respect their right to an opinion, but the way they conduct themselves is abysmal and a disgrace to the freedom of speech laws they aspire to be fighting for.

The world belongs to no one; the borders that divide its surface are created by greed.
This planet belongs to all, and no one person is in the position to say who can or cannot live their life where they so wish

As long as there is someone who wants to shackle a life, freedom will always just be a spoken word to pacify their acts, millions of souls have already been lost to feed this craving of superiority, whether on the field of battle or the streets of our towns, life dwindles under its constant struggle and pressure for authority.

But there is one thing for sure, with all the words spoken, we all see, no mater our race, the same sun as it rises in the morning and as it sets in the evening, the same moon through all it’s lunar transformations, we all breath the same air and feel it’s same touch, and when cut, we all bleed the same colour blood.

The World is as you make it, tread carefully as it is your thoughts you walk upon :)

I cannot believe how the sleepy gazette website has become home to such a bunch of cretins, and psychic ones at that, as I have been labelled a communist! Glad I'm moving away from hicksville. hope you all drown in a pool of your own poisonous bile, as you surely will.

I'll wake up happy tomorrow, you will still be an angry little man.

redcloud wrote:

SwindonNF wrote:

redcloud wrote: Swindon NF, I've heard the arguments of your kind so many times that sometimes I can't be bothered to prove you wrong. I can be as eloquent as the next person and in fact I am currently reading for a degree in media and cultural studies. So you can take the argument personal if you like, with all your little digs and snide remarks but the fact remains that you still don't have a leg to stand on. You are here for the death rattle of your ideals as they slip down the evolutionary spiral to where they belong: The past. Now on a nicer note I believe what you say about the paper misquoting you, as it has happened to me a number of times. I think however that you will be able to read from the comments here that your 'club' is not wanted here and while I respect your right to an opinion were you ever to open said club I will show up in person with every black, Asian, queer, Muslim and free thinker I know and join the club. It would be illegal to turn us away would it not? I'm sorry for your bad experiences with Muslims in the past, but I have to say that they are just like you, they have their views and they stick to them. They do not all support terrorism, nor are they all terrorists and it's that small minded attitude that gets people angry with you. Most Muslims are regular people just like you, did you take the time to get to know any of them or learn about their culture when you lived among them? It will be easier for all concerned if you just carried on your business and left Chippenham off the agenda regarding 'clubs' and any 'exclusive membership' buildings.

Little digs and snide remarks? Thats a joke coming from a man who only had personal insults and abuse to offer for his last 2 comments. I am totally sure that rant won you lots of support btw. You shown anyone reading that you are lacking in the ability of even basic discussion and do you think that little speech/rant had encouraged any peaceful person reading that to attend your march? I can tell you that you just put them right off. They now think you are after trouble. Now the reporter has stirred things a bit here, trying to get the extreme right and the lefties at each others throats. He WANTED you to set up your march (and even fabricated a story about us to prompt you to do so and you fell for it hook line and sinker.) So if either of us marched and there was trouble, having the exlusive on that story wouldnt do his career the slightest bit of harm would it? If there was an all out riot, all the better for him. The comments here have nothing to do with any decision to set up a unit in Chippenham. Nor do i for that matter. That decision lies with the NF members who reside in Chippenham. If they want to set up a local unit then that would be entirely up to them. I am sorry to disappoint you on this, but it would not be illegal to refuse anyone a membership of the National Front for any reason at all. We reserve the right to accept or decline any membership requests that we receive. However, if you want to cry about the unfairness of this, i would point out that the Black Police Association will not allow officers of the white persuasion to enter their ranks solely based on the colour of their skin. So is this illegal? or what about the Black student union? why cant white students join their org? If this is not illegal then why not? Good luck with the march btw, I hope you dont get attacked by ANTIFA. They have a tendency to do that and then blame us. All the best and i hope the weather holds off for you. SwindonNF

My march and my politics are those of peace. I will not respond to any violence perpetrated against me and nor will anybody with me. My ability to discuss/debate has been highly praised by a number of academics and other intelligent people so that little dig gets you nowhere. I disagree with the black police and others who segregate the same as I do with your organisation and I'd lobby just as hard were something like that to happen here. I'm against ANY segregation. The reporters article, though in error should show you how welcome you and your comments are, however as for 'falling for it' I don't agree because either way I've still proved a point. I love the underhanded tactic of being deliberatly inflammatory and then making out like I'M the violent yob. Nice. I'm non violent. can you honestly say you are?

Your march and politics is about peace? I was just remarking on how Antifa have on a few occasions, posed as members of the NF and United British Alliance, when they have attacked Socialist Workers Party activists.

Your ability to discuss and debate was shown with your first two comments. You really let everyone reading this discussion see your true colours.

So you disagree with the Black Police Association then and would take action against their presence in Chippenham would you? Well to my knowledge, there are several members of the Black Police Association as well as a few from the UK Black teachers association residing in Chippenham and i am pretty sure there will be in the educational establishment you are studying at, as there is one in nearly every college/uni, a presence of the Black Student Union. But i dont see you marching against them. I just see you are going straight for the white b-stards.

The reporters article was nothing more than an attempt to stir up a hornets nest. I would say titling this as "In Error" would be a huge understatement. It was nearly all complete fiction, straight from the imagination of the reporter. If the point that you set out to prove is that you are a very easily lead, nieve individual who will swallow everything you read in the press, then congratulations, you proved it.

I didnt need to make out you where the violent yob. You did that yourself. Look through earlier posts. Can i honestly say i am non-violent? Of course i can.

redcloud wrote:

LordBelacqua wrote: Can I just ask what Simon's assault has to do with the National Front? Whilst I'm not advocating in any manner the party, it really does seem that trying to whip up hatred in this manner is no better than the activitys of the NF or BNP. And hyperbole ("This will turn Chippenham into 1930s Germany with little Hitlers running around discriminating against the minorities.") like this really does no good at all. 30 people, out of all of chippenham, turned up at their march. Hardly the Storming of the Reichstagg.

I agree with you, the article they wrote is rubbish. Simon was attacked by Chavs with no balls who need to attack in huge groups because they can't fight one on one. Simon did not even mention it to the best of my knowledge during the planning of our protest. Simon has also said that he has been egregiously misquoted throughout the article. The fact remains though, that the NF have repeatedly caused nothing but trouble througout recent history, with lots of violence and race crimes. I respect their right to an opinion, but the way they conduct themselves is abysmal and a disgrace to the freedom of speech laws they aspire to be fighting for.

You know i am going to ask you to back up what you are saying here dont you? Please name a time in recent history that a member of the NF has commited a violent or race crime.

I will do a deal with you. For every convicted NF member you can name and provide with details surrounding the case i will name 5 convicted members of the 3 main parties. Want me to go first? OK, Here are my first 5 Liars, B-ggers and Thieves from the main parties:

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in former Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale has a 41-year history of crime, involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. His resume includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described Richdale as… “A family man” who had a “compassionate personality”

Labour Councillor (East Staffordshire), Doug Haw - Convicted and jailed for 9 months in 2006 for beating up Mrs Winnifred West - A WOMAN OF 83 YEARS OF AGE!!!

Labour Councillor (Pontypridd/Wales), Ken Brookman – Bit off a mans ear in front of his victims wife and 12-year old daughter, following a dispute over a seat on a train. I wonder how the people in his ward in Pontypridd felt, knowing they had just voted Hanibal Lecter the 2nd into power!

Lib Dem Councillor Peter Wright was given a 23 week prison sentence for battering his wife Karen Wright on New years eve 2005.

William Straw - Son of former Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary – Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing in 2002, amid frantic Government attempts to cover up the matter, and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl. Lovely family!

So come on Chris. There are my 5, you owe me a named NF thug. Please name 1 case of an NF member who in "recent history" (they where your words) has been convicted of a violent or race crime.

redcloud wrote:

Herman The Tosser wrote:
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Any relation, Simon?

Look Herman. You are such a piece of **** that even the nazis have disowned you, how much further down do you want to go?
Leave the women on here alone and just go away. Neither me nor my brother are related to Melinda Messenger BTW shithead. I'll say that me and Swindon NF are never gonna be friends but even he thinks you are a ****. might be all we'll ever agree on. Nobody cares. Go home.

LMAO, calm down. If nobody cares, why did you bother replying?

SwindonNF wrote:

redcloud wrote:

SwindonNF wrote:

redcloud wrote: Swindon NF, I've heard the arguments of your kind so many times that sometimes I can't be bothered to prove you wrong. I can be as eloquent as the next person and in fact I am currently reading for a degree in media and cultural studies. So you can take the argument personal if you like, with all your little digs and snide remarks but the fact remains that you still don't have a leg to stand on. You are here for the death rattle of your ideals as they slip down the evolutionary spiral to where they belong: The past. Now on a nicer note I believe what you say about the paper misquoting you, as it has happened to me a number of times. I think however that you will be able to read from the comments here that your 'club' is not wanted here and while I respect your right to an opinion were you ever to open said club I will show up in person with every black, Asian, queer, Muslim and free thinker I know and join the club. It would be illegal to turn us away would it not? I'm sorry for your bad experiences with Muslims in the past, but I have to say that they are just like you, they have their views and they stick to them. They do not all support terrorism, nor are they all terrorists and it's that small minded attitude that gets people angry with you. Most Muslims are regular people just like you, did you take the time to get to know any of them or learn about their culture when you lived among them? It will be easier for all concerned if you just carried on your business and left Chippenham off the agenda regarding 'clubs' and any 'exclusive membership' buildings.

Little digs and snide remarks? Thats a joke coming from a man who only had personal insults and abuse to offer for his last 2 comments. I am totally sure that rant won you lots of support btw. You shown anyone reading that you are lacking in the ability of even basic discussion and do you think that little speech/rant had encouraged any peaceful person reading that to attend your march? I can tell you that you just put them right off. They now think you are after trouble. Now the reporter has stirred things a bit here, trying to get the extreme right and the lefties at each others throats. He WANTED you to set up your march (and even fabricated a story about us to prompt you to do so and you fell for it hook line and sinker.) So if either of us marched and there was trouble, having the exlusive on that story wouldnt do his career the slightest bit of harm would it? If there was an all out riot, all the better for him. The comments here have nothing to do with any decision to set up a unit in Chippenham. Nor do i for that matter. That decision lies with the NF members who reside in Chippenham. If they want to set up a local unit then that would be entirely up to them. I am sorry to disappoint you on this, but it would not be illegal to refuse anyone a membership of the National Front for any reason at all. We reserve the right to accept or decline any membership requests that we receive. However, if you want to cry about the unfairness of this, i would point out that the Black Police Association will not allow officers of the white persuasion to enter their ranks solely based on the colour of their skin. So is this illegal? or what about the Black student union? why cant white students join their org? If this is not illegal then why not? Good luck with the march btw, I hope you dont get attacked by ANTIFA. They have a tendency to do that and then blame us. All the best and i hope the weather holds off for you. SwindonNF

My march and my politics are those of peace. I will not respond to any violence perpetrated against me and nor will anybody with me. My ability to discuss/debate has been highly praised by a number of academics and other intelligent people so that little dig gets you nowhere. I disagree with the black police and others who segregate the same as I do with your organisation and I'd lobby just as hard were something like that to happen here. I'm against ANY segregation. The reporters article, though in error should show you how welcome you and your comments are, however as for 'falling for it' I don't agree because either way I've still proved a point. I love the underhanded tactic of being deliberatly inflammatory and then making out like I'M the violent yob. Nice. I'm non violent. can you honestly say you are?

Your march and politics is about peace? I was just remarking on how Antifa have on a few occasions, posed as members of the NF and United British Alliance, when they have attacked Socialist Workers Party activists.

Your ability to discuss and debate was shown with your first two comments. You really let everyone reading this discussion see your true colours.

So you disagree with the Black Police Association then and would take action against their presence in Chippenham would you? Well to my knowledge, there are several members of the Black Police Association as well as a few from the UK Black teachers association residing in Chippenham and i am pretty sure there will be in the educational establishment you are studying at, as there is one in nearly every college/uni, a presence of the Black Student Union. But i dont see you marching against them. I just see you are going straight for the white b-stards.

The reporters article was nothing more than an attempt to stir up a hornets nest. I would say titling this as "In Error" would be a huge understatement. It was nearly all complete fiction, straight from the imagination of the reporter. If the point that you set out to prove is that you are a very easily lead, nieve individual who will swallow everything you read in the press, then congratulations, you proved it.

I didnt need to make out you where the violent yob. You did that yourself. Look through earlier posts. Can i honestly say i am non-violent? Of course i can.

You have proved that you are a liar. The NF are openly responsible for a number of hate crimes throughout recent history.

And my true colours? yes here they are dickhead, here are my true colours, not hidden in any way; I despise racism, I despise segregation, I am a man of peace and intelligence and I have love and respect for human cultures outside of my own.

YOU insulted my brother AND my beliefs, is it any wonder I would react that way? given my time over again I'D STILL POINT OUT THAT YOU ARE A RACIST DIPSHIT.

As for the black police? are they on this message board? are they activley encouraging hatred in my town? in your words I have yet to see it.

So because I swear and get angry at ignorance I'm ignorant myself? you don't have a clue do you? so out of touch you lot are with the ways of the REAL GREAT BRITAIN that you can never and will never win.

You lose.

Well, Swindon NF you got me there, not only do I not know personally of the criminal records of any of your goons I also don't give a ****. I know as well as you do that you lot are tied up with so many splinter groups that it makes no difference who ACTUALLY does it as long as it's not an NF crime. For the record, I don't deny you your views or your right to express them, but I am opposed to the initial things in the article here, which you have claimed are untrue. Now I don't like you and you don't like me. I think you are a nazi **** and you think I am a violent leftist yob, maybe we're both wrong. If you are neither marching nor opening a segregated club in Chippenham then I see no reason we need to keep talking to each other and winding each other up. I am pro free speech, I have friends active in the BNP for crying out loud. But I oppose any and all racism which to me is what white nationalism represents. I am undecided as to whether or not the march needs to take place if said plans are not going ahead and I feel like I'm wasting my time with you. As far as I'm concerned nothing more needs to be said. You?

I'm with Chris and Simon on this one. The National Front is a disgrace and I'm ashamed to live in a country where this Nazism is permitted. As far as I'm concerned, the NF and similar groups are the biggest problem in today's society not ethnic minorites. Our cosmopolitan culture should be celebrated.

In the words of Bill Etherington MP, after the arrest of 30 NF members in Sunderland 2001 (is that enough for you SwindonNF), "The only thing the National Front has got to offer the human race is hatred".

I think that says it all. Enough said.

Eddie3101015 wrote:
I'm with Chris and Simon on this one. The National Front is a disgrace and I'm ashamed to live in a country where this Nazism is permitted. As far as I'm concerned, the NF and similar groups are the biggest problem in today's society not ethnic minorites. Our cosmopolitan culture should be celebrated. In the words of Bill Etherington MP, after the arrest of 30 NF members in Sunderland 2001 (is that enough for you SwindonNF), "The only thing the National Front has got to offer the human race is hatred". I think that says it all. Enough said.

Well of the 30 arrested Eddie, How many where actually found guilty of a crime? Is it none?

They where arrested because violent leftists had gathered at the planned protest site, so the police held our coach to prevent the far-left communist thugs causing a riot. Obviously "Innocent until proven guilty" doesnt apply to you lot? So no, that isnt enough for me Eddie, as they where not doing anything illegal.

Ok, i will answer your posts chris, and then its up to you if you want to reply or not.

Firstly you said - You have proved that you are a liar. The NF are openly responsible for a number of hate crimes throughout recent history - I may be a lot of things Chris, but i am not a liar. I have fact to back up what i am saying, you cant name a single member of the NF that has recently been convicted of anything, so you obviously dont have fact to back up your slander and have just pulled that accusation out of thin air.

Next you said - YOU insulted my brother AND my beliefs, is it any wonder I would react that way? Yes i did insult your brother and your beliefs. I insulted your brother, the reason being, as i am sure he himself will be able to see, was because i thought he was blaming his attack on me and my friends. Now it has come out to be all media lies i take back everything i said about him. He seems like a nice guy. I insulted your beliefs because you insulted mine, so i think we are even on that one. I mean, you did accused me of being a member of Adolf Hitlers NSDAP (nazi) for crying out loud.

After that you said - As for the black police? are they on this message board? are they activley encouraging hatred in my town? - My reply is they are not on this board, but this story is not about them. If the press fabricated a story about them and gave them a comment section, then just watch them go.

Next - not only do I not know personally of the criminal records of any of your goons I also don't give a **** - Well i ask you, could you please stop making accusations against people without hard facts to back it up? It makes you look a bit silly.

next you said - I know as well as you do that you lot are tied up with so many splinter groups that it makes no difference who ACTUALLY does it as long as it's not an NF crime - That is partly correct. There are many groups that broke away from the NF (the BNP being one of these groups) but we are not tied up with any of them in any way. If their members where to commit a crime, what does that have to do with me or the NF as an organisation? Do you expect me or the NF to take the rap for other peoples crimes? Pull the other one, lad.

next (nearing the end) you said - Now I don't like you and you don't like me. I think you are a nazi **** and you think I am a violent leftist yob, maybe we're both wrong - I dont dislike you. I think you are a little bit mixed up and brainwashed by the media (the fact that you where planning on openly acting upon BS printed in this rag is enough evidence for me, a simple email to NFHQ, asking if this story is correct would have got you the truth) and you nearly give yourself an ulcer when you are playing the keyboard warrior, but that doesnt mean i think you are a bad person. What you think of me, however, i simply dont care. I didnt come here to try and change your opinion of us, just put my point of view accross and make sure people learn the truth.

So i have answered your posts Chris and its up to you if you want to carry on this conversation.

I was inspired to start commenting on this site when a dumb leftie called TC (he posted at the top of this story) started trying to spread lies about us, so i joined to challenge these lies. He refused to answer, got embarrassed and run away with his tail tucked between his legs. He even tried to stop other people from posting as this was giving me room to express myself. His posts about us where exposed as simply typical Leftie bleats with no hard facts. Well TC, the NF have been heard by the people reading this and there is now a guy who puts accross the voice of the White Nationalist on this site and guess what, ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!

Swindon NF: As much as this one is going to get me right in the neck, I have to agree with you on your last post.

However out of that 30, according to the met site, 17 were detained for further enquiries, and then released pending trial. The official report says that it was the NF who started the violence, however there is substantial evidence to suggest both parties kicked off at the same time. Not that it has much to do with it, but when it comes to prosecution this country does shag-all, my attack for example by 50 plus people was not caught on CCTV (as the camera was filming a wall) and as such, even though DNA testing proved positive, there was a few witnesses and even something of a confession, there was not enough evidence to prosecute. So unfortunately regardless of who was arrested, it is something a dead note, as the legal system has it's head upside it's tail at the moment. Either party could be guilty or innocent, and there really isn't a way of knowing.

My brother is a very articulate person, and I think lost his rag a bit over the course of this once sleepy message board. The amount of times we've all had debates with people of a similar viewpoint (one of whom being someone who stood as a BNP councillor) have always been of the highest intelligence on both sides. I'm not totally sure why this hasn't.

The march will go ahead, even though the NF's chippenham march isn't, but only if the NF do decide to set up shop.

I was contacted by ITN yesterday on this matter, and they want to do a TV interview with me. I think this situation maybe got a little out of hand, but if I do go ahead with this interview, I will be sure to mention your arguments stated, although will counter them with my own.

To everyone in support. My e-mail address is simonmessenger@yahoo
.co.uk if you are interested in the potential march, I will contact you of we do it.

Herman, I really do think this message board was a bit to articulate, as you even failed to spell your racist slang correctly. You really are a tosser, but in fairness, your view is one that is respected amongst the highest digniatries of the worlds stupidest people, you make George bush look like einstein!

Simon, first of all thanks for commenting.

I would like to know where your source of information on the story of the 17 charged NF members came from. I know first hand what happened that day because i was one of the 30 that was held and then released without charge.

What happened that day was, we where going to hold a 15 minute protest in Sunderland about the number of asylum seekers in that city. Our bus left from Birmingham and set off to Sunderland. Our protest was due to start at 2:30 pm.
However, on our way up the motorway we hit heavy traffic congestions. This making us late and when we where on the outskirts of Sunderland the coach company rang our driver as they had heard from the police that the ANaL (nice name, eh?) had gathered at the protest location and the coach company where worried about vandalism to the coach. So they instructed the driver to drop us off in Sunderland but not to go anywhere near the location.
From where he dropped us, we walked to nearest bus stop and boarded a bus heading for the town centre. The police stopped this bus and arrested everyone, held us for a few hours and then let us go.

Even Northumbria Police Chief Superintendent Bob Pattison released this statement to the BBC:

"We carried out a significant police operation which contained a situation which had the potential for serious public disorder, but which ended without any outbreaks of violence, although there were a number of arrests.

The men were arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, after they had transferred to a public service vehicle."


This happened just after the Bradford riots, where followers of the religion of peace acted violently because we asked permission to march there.

The march will not go ahead. It creates publicity for the NF while challenging nothing. I will not be marching and will encourage my brother to do the same. OFFICIAL statement from the march organser.

Is everybody so ignorant of the fact that, whilst people of various races carry a stronger determination to make their life's worthwhile, and possibly do some good to society, most of the people who do nothing but ask only for organisations such as the NF to do their leg work of spreading hate, are just waiting to live of the government?
Yes, perhaps some immigrants are dense enough to form groups and socially attack the community they have made a habitat of, but that is not because of their race. And they certainly cannot stand as representatives of their race! It is their stupidity that is causing uproars in society, therefore how are they any different to the racists who do no more than namecalling in our communities now?
There are multiracial people who do intend to make a better society by working hard and keeping peace.
What you really should be targeting are the people who do nothing for society but go out in groups at night causing trouble

x-

Being a young person myself at only 17 and a member of the YNF, I am appalled by the childish behaviour that has been shown by local people; 'little Hitlers' 'admit that you are', and all that is ridiculous. I have never associated myself with Facism before and will never in the future. To be patriotic and proud to be British is not racist. Can I remind people that racists do however exist in all walks of life and races. If you say that NF itself is racist as it does not allow other than whites in its membership. This is just as ridiculous as saying that the 'black police officers association, or the muslim police assoc or the Christian Police assoc are to; alledged racists. Grow up. I believe that British people should have more of a say about the way their lives are run. If I were an immigrant fleeing war then I would want to go to the 'closest' country that offered a temporary safe haven for me and my family and then return to re-build my once great nation that I had fled previously. I know Simon quite well and think that he again has a right to demonstrate against us, as we should have the right to continue our successful introduction of the NF & YNF and its legal political policies in Chippenham. Is Britain, being Britsh and proud of it illegal? to support British people, Britsh Industry, farmers and production such a crime? To also discourage peoples rights on the freedom to support a political view is illegal and to ban a political party from demonstrating is also illegal. We are not going to sue uneducated and mis-guided people from saying we support Hitler and Nazism; its just as stupid as saying that everyone that opposses us are Communist and Socialists, who in turn, judging by some Communists states today, deny peoples freedoms, right to religion and free-thinking alledgedly. Silly don't you think?

A fundamental difference between black organizations and the NF is that black organisations exist to support their members. One of the aims of the NF is "repatriation of all coloured people currently resident here" This is a quote from the NF website. So not supporting but attacking. Different tack don't you think?

As stated earlier, ' Please grow up.' are you not the person who said that we also support Hitler? Where did this come from? One of your other websites you support no doubt. Another thing is the Police are a non-racist organisation, so why would black people need extra support? Unless your calling the Police racists? People should have tried to integrate rather than always change things, prehaps this is another reason why British people are fed-up, they have to fight to keep things as they were, keep things British. Again if you stand up and say, 'when in Rome....,' then again you are racist. Another thing is, why is it that other religions have supporters groups, where as only black groups find it necessary for the support of a colour rather than religion, (do they not support other races?) such as the Christian Police Assoc and the Muslim one? The National Front also supports its members both from bigots that are against British people and are anti-British establishment; 'so not supporting but attacking, different tack don't you think?'

NF wrote:
As stated earlier, ' Please grow up.' are you not the person who said that we also support Hitler? Where did this come from? One of your other websites you support no doubt. Another thing is the Police are a non-racist organisation, so why would black people need extra support? Unless your calling the Police racists? People should have tried to integrate rather than always change things, prehaps this is another reason why British people are fed-up, they have to fight to keep things as they were, keep things British. Again if you stand up and say, 'when in Rome....,' then again you are racist. Another thing is, why is it that other religions have supporters groups, where as only black groups find it necessary for the support of a colour rather than religion, (do they not support other races?) such as the Christian Police Assoc and the Muslim one? The National Front also supports its members both from bigots that are against British people and are anti-British establishment; 'so not supporting but attacking, different tack don't you think?'

You are wrong on one thing, lad. where you say:

only black groups find it necessary for the support of a colour rather than religion

You will find there are also organisations many publicly funded (this is the part that really grates on me. My taxes are spent on services that i am not allowed to use because i am white) for "Asians" and "Chinese people" such as The Asian Mens Group, Antrim Chinese Community Association, Barnardos Chinese Lay Health Project and the Chinese Welfare Association

And the march organiser Chris (redcloud) has, on his myspace blog, accused me of threatening him with violence on this here forum. Could anyone reading this please point out where i threatened him?

More lies from the loony left,

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