Tickets to be paid for on phone?

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Tickets to be paid for on phone? Tickets to be paid for on phone?

Ticket machines could be removed from every car park in Wiltshire next year ... but that does not mean motorists will not have to pay.

Wiltshire Council deputy leader John Thomson said if drivers used smart phones to pay instead of putting money in a slot, it would save the authority millions of pounds.

He said: “I believe the vast majority of motorists would be happy to use this method if they thought it meant that parking charges could come down.

“This way they would not have to rush back from shopping before their ticket ran out, pay for time they have not used or pay extra because the machine does not give change.

“Of course, we realise that not everyone wants to embrace new technology in this way and so we would have to come to an arrangement with nearby shops so they could help people do this.”

The council is about to embark on its biggest parking review for four years and the non-ticket option is one of those that will be discussed.

Mr Thomson, 60, said he felt now was the right time to get rid of the machines as a Government decision to change the size and shape of £1 coins meant the council would face a huge bill for machines to be adapted.

He hopes the non-ticket payment method could be simplified so motorists only have to scan a barcode with their phones rather than tapping in a range of different numbers and letters, as is the case at the moment.

Using the automated system costs drivers 20p extra on top of the parking fee.

Mr Thomson said the review would look at all Wiltshire towns on an individual basis and was likely to do away with the banding system which, under the previous review, linked towns of a similar size.

This could benefit Chippenham, where there is little or no free parking available and the range of shops on offer is not comparable with Salisbury.

In Devizes he questioned whether extensive on-road free parking was a good idea when Station Road car park was poorly used.

The review will take place over several months with consultation via parish and town councils and area boards.

A report is likely to go to committee in January and a decision made next February.

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2:38pm Fri 23 May 14

robinr says...

What on earth has John Thompson's age quoted above go to do with what Wiltshire are trying to do about parking. Surely the editor's job is to cut out this sort of journalistic nonsense? Robin R (61)
What on earth has John Thompson's age quoted above go to do with what Wiltshire are trying to do about parking. Surely the editor's job is to cut out this sort of journalistic nonsense? Robin R (61) robinr
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Fri 23 May 14

loosewoman says...

I have big news for you, Mr. Thomson. Some of us (including myself) don't possess a smart phone. Quite a few people who would like to use the car parks will NEVER possess a smart phone. What do you suggest they do? Park elsewhere, is the short answer, and as a result revenue will drop.

As statements go, this is up there with your crass assertion, a few years ago, that volunteers would run libraries much better than the Council - a real kick in the teeth for trained, paid and experienced Council employees. Get out of your cosy little bubble and find out what the people of Wiltshire really want and need, instead of pontificating from County Hall.
I have big news for you, Mr. Thomson. Some of us (including myself) don't possess a smart phone. Quite a few people who would like to use the car parks will NEVER possess a smart phone. What do you suggest they do? Park elsewhere, is the short answer, and as a result revenue will drop. As statements go, this is up there with your crass assertion, a few years ago, that volunteers would run libraries much better than the Council - a real kick in the teeth for trained, paid and experienced Council employees. Get out of your cosy little bubble and find out what the people of Wiltshire really want and need, instead of pontificating from County Hall. loosewoman
  • Score: 12

6:22pm Fri 23 May 14

MDP says...

"In Devizes he questioned whether extensive on-road free parking was a good idea when Station Road car park was poorly used."

Whatever is this supposed to mean? Is this man now proposing to start charging for on-street parking in Devizes, which has been free for many years? (Many of us will remember the disc scheme which worked so well before it was axed by the council.) Is he trying to destroy our lovely little town, in order to make it just as unattractive as all the other Wiltshire towns which the council has ruined? (It is heart-breaking to think how beautiful Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge must once have been.)

Stop meddling, Mr Thomson, you have no idea of the consequences of what you propose. You have been "dressed in a little brief authority" by the misguided voters of wherever it is that you represent, so you can push them round if it gives you a thrill, but don't interfere with the lives of the rest of us.
"In Devizes he questioned whether extensive on-road free parking was a good idea when Station Road car park was poorly used." Whatever is this supposed to mean? Is this man now proposing to start charging for on-street parking in Devizes, which has been free for many years? (Many of us will remember the disc scheme which worked so well before it was axed by the council.) Is he trying to destroy our lovely little town, in order to make it just as unattractive as all the other Wiltshire towns which the council has ruined? (It is heart-breaking to think how beautiful Chippenham, Melksham and Trowbridge must once have been.) Stop meddling, Mr Thomson, you have no idea of the consequences of what you propose. You have been "dressed in a little brief authority" by the misguided voters of wherever it is that you represent, so you can push them round if it gives you a thrill, but don't interfere with the lives of the rest of us. MDP
  • Score: 11

7:52pm Fri 23 May 14

shed says...

As Devizes is rapidly coming to a halt with its traffic, which won't be helped by proposed new housing developments, or people trying to get to the vast industrial estate on the Barracks site, I suspect John Thompson will be regarding long lines of jammed traffic as "on -street parking" and will sub-contract out the issuing of on the spot penalties to drivers stuck in their cars thereby removing the need for ticket machines or Smartphones .
For those of us that do not own nor intend to own a mobile phone of any kind, there will be some arrangement with local shops. Parking hours will be extended to a time long past the closing times of those shops, that is provided they are still in business, providing yet more scope for penalties; or income streams in WCC speak.
This will ensure a new and lucrative revenue stream of income to be invested offshore .
But I bet one shop that will always be open to provide this service will be the much loved Tesco, of which Millionaire Thompson was once an executive.

This will infuriate the electorate so much that Jane Scott and John Thompson will finally be forced to take early retirement with a huge payoff funded by the Council tax payers of Wiltshire.

One has to take the long view old chaps, d' y' see?
As Devizes is rapidly coming to a halt with its traffic, which won't be helped by proposed new housing developments, or people trying to get to the vast industrial estate on the Barracks site, I suspect John Thompson will be regarding long lines of jammed traffic as "on -street parking" and will sub-contract out the issuing of on the spot penalties to drivers stuck in their cars thereby removing the need for ticket machines or Smartphones . For those of us that do not own nor intend to own a mobile phone of any kind, there will be some arrangement with local shops. Parking hours will be extended to a time long past the closing times of those shops, that is provided they are still in business, providing yet more scope for penalties; or income streams in WCC speak. This will ensure a new and lucrative revenue stream of income to be invested offshore . But I bet one shop that will always be open to provide this service will be the much loved Tesco, of which Millionaire Thompson was once an executive. This will infuriate the electorate so much that Jane Scott and John Thompson will finally be forced to take early retirement with a huge payoff funded by the Council tax payers of Wiltshire. One has to take the long view old chaps, d' y' see? shed
  • Score: 4

7:55pm Fri 23 May 14

shed says...

robinr wrote:
What on earth has John Thompson's age quoted above go to do with what Wiltshire are trying to do about parking. Surely the editor's job is to cut out this sort of journalistic nonsense? Robin R (61)
Not at all, soon this rag will be publishing house prices as well as ages and vital statistics.

Its an apprenticeship for the gutter press.

As long as we don't get to seeing Glamour pics of Jane I can handle it.
[quote][p][bold]robinr[/bold] wrote: What on earth has John Thompson's age quoted above go to do with what Wiltshire are trying to do about parking. Surely the editor's job is to cut out this sort of journalistic nonsense? Robin R (61)[/p][/quote]Not at all, soon this rag will be publishing house prices as well as ages and vital statistics. Its an apprenticeship for the gutter press. As long as we don't get to seeing Glamour pics of Jane I can handle it. shed
  • Score: 3

7:09am Sat 24 May 14

politepanda says...

Similar article printed the other day. Hinted that the councillors were thinking of 21st century technology and public savings - conveniently avoiding the fact that a huge proportion of the public don't own smartphones - also avoided mentioning the chain in coinage that will make the ticket machines obsolete!
So it's more desperation than contemplation??
"“Of course, we realise that not everyone wants to embrace new technology in this way and so we would have to come to an arrangement with nearby shops so they could help people do this.”
I'd say your consultation team should look into affordability - you may find that those unable to afford the required technology may equal in number those who don't want to use it.
All this to save money?
"He hopes the non-ticket payment method could be simplified so motorists only have to scan a barcode with their phones rather than tapping in a range of different numbers and letters, as is the case at the moment. "
Using the automated system costs drivers 20p extra on top of the parking fee.
It doesn't cost less now. And based on the amount of hope and local arrangements they appear already to be depending on - it probably won't when it's introduced.
But they'll have plenty of time for a neat little spin package to cover this.
Similar article printed the other day. Hinted that the councillors were thinking of 21st century technology and public savings - conveniently avoiding the fact that a huge proportion of the public don't own smartphones - also avoided mentioning the chain in coinage that will make the ticket machines obsolete! So it's more desperation than contemplation?? "“Of course, we realise that not everyone wants to embrace new technology in this way and so we would have to come to an arrangement with nearby shops so they could help people do this.” I'd say your consultation team should look into affordability - you may find that those unable to afford the required technology may equal in number those who don't want to use it. All this to save money? "He hopes the non-ticket payment method could be simplified so motorists only have to scan a barcode with their phones rather than tapping in a range of different numbers and letters, as is the case at the moment. " Using the automated system costs drivers 20p extra on top of the parking fee. It doesn't cost less now. And based on the amount of hope and local arrangements they appear already to be depending on - it probably won't when it's introduced. But they'll have plenty of time for a neat little spin package to cover this. politepanda
  • Score: 7

2:17am Sun 25 May 14

Daedalus says...

So even if you've got a smart phone, what happens when there's no signal? WC appear to be going down the pan when it comes to sensible decisions. These people need to get real...
So even if you've got a smart phone, what happens when there's no signal? WC appear to be going down the pan when it comes to sensible decisions. These people need to get real... Daedalus
  • Score: 7

9:07am Sun 25 May 14

the optimist says...

The money in my pocket is legal tender and woe betide any council who tries to stop me from buying goods with it?

That includes parking.

Wiltshire Council reminds me of the old saying that includes the word "brewery"?
The money in my pocket is legal tender and woe betide any council who tries to stop me from buying goods with it? That includes parking. Wiltshire Council reminds me of the old saying that includes the word "brewery"? the optimist
  • Score: 10

6:41pm Fri 30 May 14

Grumpy of Calne. says...

Not very good for those without smart phones!
Not very good for those without smart phones! Grumpy of Calne.
  • Score: 0

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