MATCHDAY LIVE: Stevenage v Swindon Town

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  • REPORTING BY SAM MORSHEAD & ANDY WARREN
  • FT: Stevenage 2 (Akins 38, Morais pen 56) Swindon Town 0
  • Morais doubles the home lead after Hall dragged down Zoko
  • Akins drives Stevenage ahead
  • Mark Cooper sticks with team which beat Peterborough on Saturday
  • Robins have 100 per cent record at Lamex Stadium
  • Town issue statement regarding Adver ban

10:29pm

That's it from us this evening, join us on Saturday for the trip to Gillingham.

10:29pm

Luongo has told BBC Wiltshire what he thought went wrong this evening.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Massimo Luongo

MASSIMO LUONGO

“We didn’t show on the pitch and our decision making was poor for both the goals,” he said.

“It seems to be a theme when we go away but we need to work it out because when we’re on the ball it’s good to watch.

“We have to work on our structure and I think that’s the biggest thing.”

10:26pm

Massimo Luongo is on his way up to talk to BBC Wiltshire.

10:20pm

The Town boss also insisted his side will carry on playing attacking football.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Town boss Mark Cooper

MARK COOPER

“It’s a conundrum,” he told BBC Wiltshire.

“A few weeks back we got everyone behind the ball and it was not nice to watch but we got results.

“The fans made it clear so we won’t do that because they’re important, so we will stick to our attacking instincts.”

10:17pm

Town boss Mark Cooper is now speaking to BBC Wiltshire.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Mark Cooper has a discussion with the fourth official during Swindon Town's 2-1 victory over Peterborough

MARK COOPER

“We come away, make bad decisions and at times concede sloppy goals,” he said. “It’s still work in progress but the young players are still learning.

“Young Alex has made a bad decision for the first and then Grant Hall for the second.

“We played some good football in the first half but then didn’t produce the finish and that really cost us.

“I think if we had been there all night it would have cost us and it’s a disappointing result.”

10:10pm

Still waiting.....

9:59pm

Still no sign of Town boss Mark Cooper. I imagine he is still having a friendly chat with his players.

9:53pm

9:49pm

Normally at this point we would bring you reaction from tonight's game. We will do our best to do so, but let's see what happens.

9:41pm

FULL-TIME: Stevenage 2 Swindon Town 0

9:41pm

90+5 minutes: Kasim wins a free-kick just outside the box after he's barged over, but Day palms Mason's kick wide with the final kick of the game.

9:38pm

92 minutes: Storey sees a shot blocked

9:36pm

Four minutes added on.

9:36pm

STEVENAGE SUB: Luke Freeman replaced by Roarie Deacon. 90

9:36pm

Town not coming up with an awful lot. This one is slipping away as we go into stoppage time.

9:32pm

83 minutes: Barker moves inside and shoots but sees his shot blocked.

9:31pm

Attendance: 2,167 (328)

9:30pm

STEVENAGE SUBSTITUTIONS: Morais and Zoko replaced by Darius Charles and Jamie Burrow. 81

9:28pm

9:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oldhamred says

Time to introduce Storey, maybe his pace will unlock the door.

As if by magic!

9:28pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION: Pritchard comes off and is replaced by Miles Storey. 79

9:28pm

79 minutes: Mason shapes to shoot after the ball comes out the box following a Town corner, but his effort ends up going out of play five yards behind him.

9:26pm

YELLOW CARD: Zoko goes into the book for falling on the ball and handling it.

9:24pm

A bit of a scuffle between Pritchard and Hartley results in a telling off, but no action, from referee Collins

9:23pm

73 minutes: A good Town move ends with Mason firing wide.

9:21pm

Some 'oles' coming from the home fans as they string a few passes together. That's never a good sign.

9:20pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION: Nathan Thompson off, Nathan Byrne on. 72

9:17pm

68 minutes: Town break at pace and the ball lands at the feet of Ranger who quickly feeds Pritchard, but the winger can’t get his shot off and it skews behind, seemingly of a defender, for a corner. The assistant somehow gives a goal kick and the referee agrees.

9:14pm

65 minutes: Town win a corner after Mason’s effort is deflected wide. Town again make nothing of it.

9:09pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION: George Barker comes on for his Town debut in place of N’Guessan. 62

9:07pm

57 minutes: Zoko drives forward as Stevenage sense Town are there for the taking and shoots just wide.

9:05pm

GOAL 2-0 STEVENAGE (Morais 56) Foderingham gets a hand to Morais’ spot kick but he can’t keep it out.

9:03pm

Penalty to Stevenage after Zoko is dragged down by Hall. The Town defender is booked when he really should have gone given he was the last man. 55

9:00pm

52 minutes: Ward has to stretch to head Freeman’s cross clear, from which Morais’ shot it deflected wide for a corner. Ranger heads Smith’s kick behind for another which Town also clear.

8:57pm

Very scrappy. Not an awful lot to report I'm afraid.

8:57pm

Very scrappy. Not an awful lot to report I'm afraid.

8:51pm

Stevenage get us back under way

8:50pm

LEAGUE ONE LATEST

Walsall 1 Oldham 0

8:49pm

Town back out for the second half. No changes by the looks of things.

8:36pm

Not a terrible half from Town, with some nice stuff when they've had the ball, but Akins and Zoko have been a real threat.

8:35pm

HALF-TIME: Stevenage 1 (Akins 38) Swindon Town 0

8:33pm

YOUR SAY

8:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mowey33 says

1-0 down away form again? hope not come on swindon we need to do better away from home lets start getting points tonight

8:32pm

45 minutes: Freeman breaks at pace following a Town attack but fires into the Swindon fans despite having Zoko and Akins in the middle. Three minutes added on.

8:32pm

43 minutes: Mason lines up a free kick from 20 yards out which Day tips over the top.

8:30pm

8:26pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says

FANTASTIC

8:27pm

GOAL 1-0 STEVENAGE (Akins 38) Foderingham claims a Freeman cross and hurls the ball out quickly to an under pressure Pritchard. The winger’s touch is heavy and eventually finds its way to the feet of Akins who drives low into the corner of the net.

8:23pm

34 minutes: Pritchard drives into the box and shoots but sees his effort blocked behind by Jimmy Smith. Town can’t make anything of the corner.

8:21pm

32 minutes: Ranger touches the ball off to Pritchard who immediately sees his shot deflected high into the air, beating Day in the Boro goal and bouncing away off the bar.

8:18pm

DISALLOWED GOAL: After Ranger superbly clears a Boro corner, Freeman wins another when his shot is deflected wide. The second corner is taken short and then crossed for Zoko who beats Foderingham to the ball, but he’s flagged offside. 29

8:14pm

25 minutes: Mason takes aim from wide on the right and just fires wide of the Stevenage goal.

8:12pm

Morais is giving Hall the runaround at left back a little though.

8:11pm

Bit scrappy for the last few minutes but Town seem to be keeping the ball better than Boro.

8:08pm

19 minutes: Jon Ashton heads a corner towards goal but his effort is blocked by teammate Zoko, allowing Town to clear.

8:06pm

17 minutes: After Zoko and Darren Ward enjoy a spot of head tennis, Akins profits from the bouncing ball and thumps a shot wide.

8:04pm

14 minutes: Luongo chips a beautiful ball wide for Pritchard on the right and the winger pulls the ball back into the feet of Ranger. The striker sees his effort blocked and after it loops up into the air his headed effort is straight into the arms of Chris Day.

7:57pm

Eight minutes: Despite the Stevenage pressure at the start of the game, it’s Town who have the first shot as Kasim fires just over the bar.

7:57pm

The Town fans have just sung happy birthday to Wes Foderingham, who turns 23 today. Nice touch.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Swindon Town Keeper Wes Foderingham

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

7:56pm

Seven minutes: A beautiful touch from Morais sees him glide round Hall but his teasing cross is well caught by Foderingham scrambling backwards.

7:52pm

Three minutes: Morais plays a really nice ball for Akins, in behind Hall, but the forward can only power his shot/cross into the Town fans behind the goal.

7:49pm

The hosts have done all the attacking in the opening two minutes but have not tested Foderingham in the Town goal.

7:46pm

Town defending the end housing their fans tonight. Here we go!

7:43pm

Here come the teams!

7:42pm

It is very, very cold.

7:42pm

Mark Cooper and his coaching staff have emerged. Still waiting for the teams.

7:38pm

7:37pm

YOUR SAY

7:35pm

DISCLAIMER

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7:33pm

IN THE DUGOUT

Graham Westley is well know across the Football League as one of the bigger characters of the game.

From 2am texts letting his players know they'd been dropped to confrontations with fans, Westley doesn't do things by halves.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Stevenage Borough manager Graham Westley.

GRAHAM WESTLEY

As a manager he's been widely succesful, winning the Conference title and the FA Trophy in his first spell with Stevenage, as well as guiding Boro to the League One play-offs in 2010/11.

He may be unconventional, he may rustle a few feathers, but by and large his style has rubbed off on his players wherever he's been.

7:24pm

Swindon Town have this evening released a statement regarding the ban imposed on the Advertiser.

The statement reads: "The Club's actions to place an embargo on the Swindon Advertiser was as a result of a series of issues with the newspaper of which the Nile Ranger incident was the most recent.

"The restriction on the Swindon Advertiser covering fixtures is in effect for home matches only, the first of which is at the end of this month.

"The Club feels it has acted in the best interests of Swindon Town and its supporters.

"However, the Club acknowledges that supporters do need a conduit and, as such, confirm that they will be meeting with Gary Lawrence, the Group Editor of the Swindon Advertiser on Monday to resolve our differences and to rebuild trust between both parties.

"The Club would like to reiterate that this decision has been made with supporters in mind and would like to thank all supporters for their continued backing."

7:20pm

7:19pm

The club have issued a statement regarding the state of play between Swindon Town and the Swindon Advertiser. We'll bring it to you shortly.

7:17pm

A bit odd not seeing Jay McEveley in the squad this afternoon after Mark Cooper's remarks to BBC Wiltshire yesterday.

He said: “Jay will be involved, he’s in the squad but it’s whether we change the back four or put him straight back in. That’s the conundrum we have got."

7:14pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

STEVENAGE v Swindon Town: Day; Doughty, Jones, Ashton, Hartley; Smith, Heslop, Morais, Freeman; Akins, Zoko

Substitutes: Smith, Wedgbury, Charles, Burrow, Tounkara, Andrade, Deacon.

7:09pm

MAN IN THE MIDDLE

Lee Collins is the referee this evening. The Surrey official last took charge of a Town game in October 2012 when Coventry drew 2-2 in Wiltshire. That game was the last of Jeremy Wray's reign as chairman. I'm sure Collins won't bring the same fate to Lee Power tonight.

Collins is fond of a red card. He issued eight in 26 matches last season and has added another two this time around. Let's hope he keeps his cards in his pocked tonight.

7:06pm

YOUR SAY

6:58pm Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says

COYR Three points please - that away record looks ugly, and time we started to put that right. At least Sam doesn't have ban problems away from home, just incompetence from the Stevenage folks to cope with.

7:01pm

The Stevenage players are out for their warm-up at the Lamex Stadium. No, scrap that, we're going to call it Broadhall Way for a bit.

Wes Foderingham and Tyrell Belford are doing their thing with Fraser Digby in front of the travelling fans as well.

7:00pm

ADVER CHIEF SPORTS WRITER SAM MORSHEAD: "Well, the good news is Nile Ranger has kept an immaculate attendance record in training since apologising to his teammates and continues to be involved for Town tonight.

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Nile Ranger challenges with Coventry's Dan Seabourne

STARTING: NILE RANGER

"That will be a massive boost to the Robins, who can prove they are up for the fight with victory here at the Lamex Stadium tonight.

"It's nice to be back focusing on the football this evening and hopefully everyone's attention can shift to celebrating a Swindon win come 10pm."

6:57pm

YOUR SAY

6:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Carlo says

Does Sam still have a job? It is 18:46 and the service hasn't started yet.

Somehow yes I do. Stevenage didn't let any press in til around 6.40pm. Bit of an odd one.

6:55pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

Stevenage v SWINDON TOWN: Foderingham; N Thompson, Branco, Ward, Hall; Luongo, Kasim, Mason; N'Guessan, Ranger, Pritchard

Substitutes: Belford, Barthram, Byrne, Harley, Thompson L, Barker, Storey

6:53pm

We're expecting to hear official team news very, very shortly. The Swindon team coach pulled up outside the Lamex Stadium at around 6.30pm and the players have been illing around on the pitch.

6:52pm

YOUR SAY

Matchday Live is more than just a report on today’s game, it’s an opportunity for you to tell us exactly how you feel about current events at Swindon Town.

So, whether it’s complaints about lukewarm pies in the Arkell’s Stand, concerns over the abundance of youth in the Robins’ set-up or frustration at your latest delayed train, we want to hear from you.

Getting in touch is easy, just follow one of the below options:

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6:50pm

Team news is just around the corner and stick with us for build-up to the game followed by reaction, in some form or another, at the end of the match.

Enjoy!

6:50pm

Town visit rock-bottom Stevenage looking for a victory which could potentially lift them into the play-off places, depending on results elsewhere with talismanic, enigmatic frontman Nile Ranger in tow.

6:49pm

It's been an eventful start to the week, with the various problems the Advertiser has had with the club, but tonight it's back to what really matters...football.

6:47pm

Apologies for the delayed start ladies and gents but, believe it or not, ourselves and the BBC were not allowed into Stevenage's Lamex Stadium until just before 6.40pm.

Anyway, we're here now. So let's begin.

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5:15pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says...

Hood luck 2night chaps..3 point and you never know the play-offs MIGHT look reachable...

3.1 TO SWINDON
Hood luck 2night chaps..3 point and you never know the play-offs MIGHT look reachable... 3.1 TO SWINDON dazzastfc
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Another view says...

How will we spot you in future, Sam?
Will you be wearing a balaclava and an Inspector Clueso moustache???
How will we spot you in future, Sam? Will you be wearing a balaclava and an Inspector Clueso moustache??? Another view
  • Score: 4

5:40pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

Hope Storey gets on tonight .

Ranger and Storey....Goals and more Goals.
Hope Storey gets on tonight . Ranger and Storey....Goals and more Goals. Robinonfire
  • Score: 1

6:20pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

THIS SERVICE BEGINS AT 6.30pm.

We hope!!!

COYR!
THIS SERVICE BEGINS AT 6.30pm. We hope!!! COYR! Since 1950
  • Score: -2

6:37pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Chippenham Will says...

18:36 now, are we sure its on tonight???
18:36 now, are we sure its on tonight??? Chippenham Will
  • Score: -1

6:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

bookiered says...

Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?
Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight? bookiered
  • Score: -1

6:43pm Tue 14 Jan 14

ellory says...

bookiered wrote:
Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?
Or anyone else..? !
[quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?[/p][/quote]Or anyone else..? ! ellory
  • Score: 0

6:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

jfmorty says...

bookiered wrote:
Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?
Shhhh!
[quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?[/p][/quote]Shhhh! jfmorty
  • Score: -2

6:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

bookiered wrote:
Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?
Team sheet not being completed until half time tonight to keep Stevenage guessing. Names and numbers have been removed from shirts and shorts to keep everyone guessing!!
[quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?[/p][/quote]Team sheet not being completed until half time tonight to keep Stevenage guessing. Names and numbers have been removed from shirts and shorts to keep everyone guessing!! Since 1950
  • Score: 1

6:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Carlo says...

Does Sam still have a job? It is 18:46 and the service hasn't started yet.
Does Sam still have a job? It is 18:46 and the service hasn't started yet. Carlo
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Stevenage aren't letting the press in yet...they have heard about Sam tweeting team news early :)
Stevenage aren't letting the press in yet...they have heard about Sam tweeting team news early :) Cleuso
  • Score: 2

6:58pm Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says...

COYR Three points please - that away record looks ugly, and time we started to put that right. At least Sam doesn't have ban problems away from home, just incompetence from the Stevenage folks to cope with.
COYR Three points please - that away record looks ugly, and time we started to put that right. At least Sam doesn't have ban problems away from home, just incompetence from the Stevenage folks to cope with. california andy
  • Score: 0

7:09pm Tue 14 Jan 14

alchafreds says...

california andy wrote:
COYR Three points please - that away record looks ugly, and time we started to put that right. At least Sam doesn't have ban problems away from home, just incompetence from the Stevenage folks to cope with.
come on you mighty reds
[quote][p][bold]california andy[/bold] wrote: COYR Three points please - that away record looks ugly, and time we started to put that right. At least Sam doesn't have ban problems away from home, just incompetence from the Stevenage folks to cope with.[/p][/quote]come on you mighty reds alchafreds
  • Score: 0

7:25pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Irene's a lino says...

Would love to see Waldon get some game time, I've been watching him at Gloucester - the guy has talent!
Would love to see Waldon get some game time, I've been watching him at Gloucester - the guy has talent! Irene's a lino
  • Score: 45

7:28pm Tue 14 Jan 14

alchafreds says...

Irene's a lino wrote:
Would love to see Waldon get some game time, I've been watching him at Gloucester - the guy has talent!
certainly does and a good attitude to
[quote][p][bold]Irene's a lino[/bold] wrote: Would love to see Waldon get some game time, I've been watching him at Gloucester - the guy has talent![/p][/quote]certainly does and a good attitude to alchafreds
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

Carlo wrote:
Does Sam still have a job? It is 18:46 and the service hasn't started yet.
He tweets when he wants, he tweets when he wants....
[quote][p][bold]Carlo[/bold] wrote: Does Sam still have a job? It is 18:46 and the service hasn't started yet.[/p][/quote]He tweets when he wants, he tweets when he wants.... Since 1950
  • Score: 0

7:42pm Tue 14 Jan 14

red white says...

You naughty boy Sam now look what you've done.

You'll be in the Town End next getting ejected from there!
You naughty boy Sam now look what you've done. You'll be in the Town End next getting ejected from there! red white
  • Score: 0

7:45pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Club statement
THE Club's actions to place an embargo on the Swindon Advertiser was as a result of a series of issues with the newspaper of which the Nile Ranger incident was the most recent.

The restriction on the Swindon Advertiser covering fixtures is in effect for home matches only, the first of which is at the end of this month.

The Club feels it has acted in the best interests of Swindon Town and its supporters.

However, the Club acknowledges that supporters do need a conduit and, as such, confirm that they will be meeting with Gary Lawrence, the Group Editor of the Swindon Advertiser on Monday to resolve our differences and to rebuild trust between both parties.

The Club would like to reiterate that this decision has been made with supporters in mind and would like to thank all supporters for their continued backing.
Club statement THE Club's actions to place an embargo on the Swindon Advertiser was as a result of a series of issues with the newspaper of which the Nile Ranger incident was the most recent. The restriction on the Swindon Advertiser covering fixtures is in effect for home matches only, the first of which is at the end of this month. The Club feels it has acted in the best interests of Swindon Town and its supporters. However, the Club acknowledges that supporters do need a conduit and, as such, confirm that they will be meeting with Gary Lawrence, the Group Editor of the Swindon Advertiser on Monday to resolve our differences and to rebuild trust between both parties. The Club would like to reiterate that this decision has been made with supporters in mind and would like to thank all supporters for their continued backing. Brainy_G93
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says...

Sounds as though the club are scrambling to find a way out of the box they have put themselves in. There is always going to be tension between the interests of the club and the drive on the part of journalists to get stories. If Sam has been straying over the line as the club sees it, they should have had a quiet word, not gone public as they did. And even then, the reporter has an obligation to his/her readers to dig out stories and publish them, even if it makes the club uncomfortable. Obviously, one hopes the reporting won't damage the club, and I think Sam is obviously a fan and tries not to do this. But sometimes things are going on behind the scenes that need to be aired, even if it ticks off the likes of Power. He needs to develop a thicker skin, methinks.
Sounds as though the club are scrambling to find a way out of the box they have put themselves in. There is always going to be tension between the interests of the club and the drive on the part of journalists to get stories. If Sam has been straying over the line as the club sees it, they should have had a quiet word, not gone public as they did. And even then, the reporter has an obligation to his/her readers to dig out stories and publish them, even if it makes the club uncomfortable. Obviously, one hopes the reporting won't damage the club, and I think Sam is obviously a fan and tries not to do this. But sometimes things are going on behind the scenes that need to be aired, even if it ticks off the likes of Power. He needs to develop a thicker skin, methinks. california andy
  • Score: 2

8:15pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Scouse Red says...

Since 1950 wrote:
bookiered wrote:
Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?
Team sheet not being completed until half time tonight to keep Stevenage guessing. Names and numbers have been removed from shirts and shorts to keep everyone guessing!!
i remember stories of Shankly back in the days of 1-11 when we were playing away and players used to mark opposition numbers in Europe, he sent the back four out wearing 10,11, 7 and 9 and the opposition had their defenders playing up front and in midfield - genius!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bookiered[/bold] wrote: Hey Sam, is Ranger playing tonight?[/p][/quote]Team sheet not being completed until half time tonight to keep Stevenage guessing. Names and numbers have been removed from shirts and shorts to keep everyone guessing!![/p][/quote]i remember stories of Shankly back in the days of 1-11 when we were playing away and players used to mark opposition numbers in Europe, he sent the back four out wearing 10,11, 7 and 9 and the opposition had their defenders playing up front and in midfield - genius! Scouse Red
  • Score: 1

8:22pm Tue 14 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

Not there tonight - can't do em all- Walsall & Crewe on the horizon - sounds like Morais is skinning Hall at will. Coops will need to watch that scenario and act accordingly to block that route to goal or it could prove costly maybe.
Not there tonight - can't do em all- Walsall & Crewe on the horizon - sounds like Morais is skinning Hall at will. Coops will need to watch that scenario and act accordingly to block that route to goal or it could prove costly maybe. The Jockster
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says...

FANTASTIC
FANTASTIC dazzastfc
  • Score: 0

8:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mowey33 says...

1-0 down away form again? hope not come on swindon we need to do better away from home lets start getting points tonight
1-0 down away form again? hope not come on swindon we need to do better away from home lets start getting points tonight mowey33
  • Score: 0

8:32pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Just seen the goal conceded on Sky new, According to Sam Wes was at fault with the throw out to Pritch and then from what was shown on Sky he should have got a hand to the shot, really poor goal keeping by his standards.
Just seen the goal conceded on Sky new, According to Sam Wes was at fault with the throw out to Pritch and then from what was shown on Sky he should have got a hand to the shot, really poor goal keeping by his standards. old town robin
  • Score: 2

8:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

Get Storey and Barker on.......Just go for it Cooper
Get Storey and Barker on.......Just go for it Cooper Robinonfire
  • Score: -2

8:49pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Need something from this game and should only be three points against the bottom team who have only won twice is it at home. Even a draw would be two points dropped come on Town do you want this??. Shake them up Coops.
Need something from this game and should only be three points against the bottom team who have only won twice is it at home. Even a draw would be two points dropped come on Town do you want this??. Shake them up Coops. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says...

Sounds as though a dumb decision by Wes cost us the goal. Come on Town - these guys are bottom of the league for a reason!!!
Sounds as though a dumb decision by Wes cost us the goal. Come on Town - these guys are bottom of the league for a reason!!! california andy
  • Score: 3

9:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Come on Town, these guys are bottom of the league!
Come on Town, these guys are bottom of the league! Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 4

9:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mowey33 says...

away form again for definite from commentary they are all over us why can we not play away from home 2-0 down doesnt sound as though we can get back in the game, this has been needing sorting out all season and again tonight, away from home we are scared and we must start picking up points if we are going to get into the play off positions
away form again for definite from commentary they are all over us why can we not play away from home 2-0 down doesnt sound as though we can get back in the game, this has been needing sorting out all season and again tonight, away from home we are scared and we must start picking up points if we are going to get into the play off positions mowey33
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Scouse Red says...

Just seen the penalty on Sky Sport News, Grant Hall what were you doing there son?? pulled him down followed by the innocent arms in the air look to the ref. 2-0 down to bottom of the table. Christ.

Come on fellas, show some spirit and some determination, this lot are poor
Just seen the penalty on Sky Sport News, Grant Hall what were you doing there son?? pulled him down followed by the innocent arms in the air look to the ref. 2-0 down to bottom of the table. Christ. Come on fellas, show some spirit and some determination, this lot are poor Scouse Red
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.
What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 4

9:07pm Tue 14 Jan 14

port de soller says...

cooper aint right for the town,cottreil would have done a great job.
sorry STFC fans but this management team aint got a clue
cooper aint right for the town,cottreil would have done a great job. sorry STFC fans but this management team aint got a clue port de soller
  • Score: -19

9:08pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Scouse Red says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.
time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB?
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.[/p][/quote]time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB? Scouse Red
  • Score: 7

9:09pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

port de soller wrote:
cooper aint right for the town,cottreil would have done a great job.
sorry STFC fans but this management team aint got a clue
Don't think you have either.
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: cooper aint right for the town,cottreil would have done a great job. sorry STFC fans but this management team aint got a clue[/p][/quote]Don't think you have either. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 9

9:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Scouse Red wrote:
Di kanny oh wrote:
What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.
time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB?
Hall has been a total liability all season. We start each game with 10 men against 12 because he might as well be playing for the other side. He is not fit to play in any league. He needs to go as soon as possible. Joke defender and he causes so much instability at the back because the other defenders and Wes know he's total cr4p so they get pulled out of position trying to cover up for his incompetence. Branco is different class.
[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.[/p][/quote]time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB?[/p][/quote]Hall has been a total liability all season. We start each game with 10 men against 12 because he might as well be playing for the other side. He is not fit to play in any league. He needs to go as soon as possible. Joke defender and he causes so much instability at the back because the other defenders and Wes know he's total cr4p so they get pulled out of position trying to cover up for his incompetence. Branco is different class. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: -4

9:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

california andy says...

Dire. Sounds as though Hall should have walked, and had been a horror show all night - not for the first time. Time to sit him down and play people who can defend.
Dire. Sounds as though Hall should have walked, and had been a horror show all night - not for the first time. Time to sit him down and play people who can defend. california andy
  • Score: -1

9:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
Need something from this game and should only be three points against the bottom team who have only won twice is it at home. Even a draw would be two points dropped come on Town do you want this??. Shake them up Coops.
Totally agree DKO, just seen the foul from Hall to give the penalty away, shocking defending and really poor attempt from Wes to save a very weak penalty. Time for Cooper to show some balls and show he can make tactical changes and go for it. 0-2 go for it FFS after losing to Sheffield Utd and now losing to the bottom of the league there has to be a problem why we are unable to do the business away from home.. Big questions to be answered

Sort it out Cooper
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: Need something from this game and should only be three points against the bottom team who have only won twice is it at home. Even a draw would be two points dropped come on Town do you want this??. Shake them up Coops.[/p][/quote]Totally agree DKO, just seen the foul from Hall to give the penalty away, shocking defending and really poor attempt from Wes to save a very weak penalty. Time for Cooper to show some balls and show he can make tactical changes and go for it. 0-2 go for it FFS after losing to Sheffield Utd and now losing to the bottom of the league there has to be a problem why we are unable to do the business away from home.. Big questions to be answered Sort it out Cooper old town robin
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says...

WHAT A SHOWER..2.0 AGAINST A TEAM THAT COULD NOT BEET THEMSELVES
WHAT A SHOWER..2.0 AGAINST A TEAM THAT COULD NOT BEET THEMSELVES dazzastfc
  • Score: 3

9:22pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him Graham8181
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oldhamred says...

Time to introduce Storey, maybe his pace will unlock the door.
Time to introduce Storey, maybe his pace will unlock the door. Oldhamred
  • Score: 2

9:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

Storey should have come on at half time...Cooper you don't know what your doing.
Storey should have come on at half time...Cooper you don't know what your doing. Robinonfire
  • Score: -7

9:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says...

Graham8181 wrote:
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him[/p][/quote]DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!! dazzastfc
  • Score: 2

9:33pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Scouse Red wrote:
Di kanny oh wrote:
What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.
time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB?
Shocking performance against the poorest team in this Division so big questions need to be asked how come we are so different home and away not good enough. Time for Hall to go back and put Troy back in.
[quote][p][bold]Scouse Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: What the hell is going on seems like we are getting outplayed by the bottom team, embarrassing . Hall is a liability.[/p][/quote]time for a rest? He and Ward have played every game so far. Maybe Branco and Ward on Saturday and bring back Jay at LB?[/p][/quote]Shocking performance against the poorest team in this Division so big questions need to be asked how come we are so different home and away not good enough. Time for Hall to go back and put Troy back in. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Tue 14 Jan 14

dazzastfc says...

Feel sorry for the town fans that went tonight
.... ANOTHER VERY POOR PERFORMANCE...
Feel sorry for the town fans that went tonight .... ANOTHER VERY POOR PERFORMANCE... dazzastfc
  • Score: 4

9:34pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!!
Send him back then we have Troy fit now.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him[/p][/quote]DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!![/p][/quote]Send him back then we have Troy fit now. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 1

9:34pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!!
I would say no but then we'd be back to lack of cover again not that's Ed any good anyway. Shame we can't have him as a bench warmer
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him[/p][/quote]DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!![/p][/quote]I would say no but then we'd be back to lack of cover again not that's Ed any good anyway. Shame we can't have him as a bench warmer Graham8181
  • Score: 0

9:36pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
dazzastfc wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!!
Send him back then we have Troy fit now.
If Troy is definitely now fit then yes send him back although I don't rate Troy either he's shocking as well from what I've seen previous
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him[/p][/quote]DO WE WONT TO KEEP HIM !!!!![/p][/quote]Send him back then we have Troy fit now.[/p][/quote]If Troy is definitely now fit then yes send him back although I don't rate Troy either he's shocking as well from what I've seen previous Graham8181
  • Score: 1

9:40pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement.
Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement. Since 1950
  • Score: 5

9:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

After this CRAP RESULT Cooper should be banned from the County Ground....not the adver

Sort it out Power and get a real manager.
After this CRAP RESULT Cooper should be banned from the County Ground....not the adver Sort it out Power and get a real manager. Robinonfire
  • Score: -12

9:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

sagadude says...

Wrong team choice from the outset. Make them all fight for their places.

Stevenage were trying harder due their bottom position. It always happens in all divisions.
Wrong team choice from the outset. Make them all fight for their places. Stevenage were trying harder due their bottom position. It always happens in all divisions. sagadude
  • Score: 1

9:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

joey butler says...

I bet Sam really wishes that Mr Power banned him from away games too!!
I bet Sam really wishes that Mr Power banned him from away games too!! joey butler
  • Score: 3

9:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mowey33 says...

another very poor away game, when are we going to learn to get points away from home, our home form is the only thing keeping us up there. the whole squad and management need to sit down and work out what is going on away from home and sort this out.
Fans are shelling out good hard earned cash on petrol food and tickets to see us playing away we deserve better perfomances and we need to get this sorted
another very poor away game, when are we going to learn to get points away from home, our home form is the only thing keeping us up there. the whole squad and management need to sit down and work out what is going on away from home and sort this out. Fans are shelling out good hard earned cash on petrol food and tickets to see us playing away we deserve better perfomances and we need to get this sorted mowey33
  • Score: 8

9:49pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Dreadful result. I think play offs are a pipe dream.
Dreadful result. I think play offs are a pipe dream. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 6

9:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Mistakes cost us yet again what do we actually do in training. We had the opportunity to get ourselves pushing for the top six and the players were second best to the bottom of the league. Time for Troy and Branco to form the new defense, send hall back as he has been a liability all season costing us dear, Ward can be benched for cover. These players really need to look at themselves tonight absolutely shocking. Away from home we are a complete joke of a team yet have a superb home record. Come on Cooper this really is the pits lets see a reaction at Gillingham.
Mistakes cost us yet again what do we actually do in training. We had the opportunity to get ourselves pushing for the top six and the players were second best to the bottom of the league. Time for Troy and Branco to form the new defense, send hall back as he has been a liability all season costing us dear, Ward can be benched for cover. These players really need to look at themselves tonight absolutely shocking. Away from home we are a complete joke of a team yet have a superb home record. Come on Cooper this really is the pits lets see a reaction at Gillingham. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 2

9:50pm Tue 14 Jan 14

tifosi says...

Since 1950 wrote:
Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement.
Agreed. We always need a target but we're not good enough for the play offs. Play offs lead to promotion and I dread to think how this lot would get on in the Championship.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement.[/p][/quote]Agreed. We always need a target but we're not good enough for the play offs. Play offs lead to promotion and I dread to think how this lot would get on in the Championship. tifosi
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Tue 14 Jan 14

the don69 says...

We are pants away from home! home form=promotion! but away form=relegation! so that=mid-table simples forget the play-off's chaps our away form is just too dire!!!!
We are pants away from home! home form=promotion! but away form=relegation! so that=mid-table simples forget the play-off's chaps our away form is just too dire!!!! the don69
  • Score: 3

9:54pm Tue 14 Jan 14

SPIDEY43 says...

57% POSESSION 11 SHOTS 4 ON TARGET
STEVENAGE 13 SOTS 2 ON TARGET==2GOALS
SAYS IT ALL PLAY OFFS LOOKING SLIMMER ALL THE TIME
57% POSESSION 11 SHOTS 4 ON TARGET STEVENAGE 13 SOTS 2 ON TARGET==2GOALS SAYS IT ALL PLAY OFFS LOOKING SLIMMER ALL THE TIME SPIDEY43
  • Score: 1

9:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

9:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

tifosi wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement.
Agreed. We always need a target but we're not good enough for the play offs. Play offs lead to promotion and I dread to think how this lot would get on in the Championship.
Agreed. I am afraid the truth of the matter is we couldn't afford the Championship even if we did, by some fluke, manage to get there this season.
[quote][p][bold]tifosi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: Sounds like an abject performance from us tonight against the basement club. These are the games we have to get 3 points from if we are to have any chance of the play offs. We are just not good or consistent enough. But as I have said consolidation this season will be an achievement.[/p][/quote]Agreed. We always need a target but we're not good enough for the play offs. Play offs lead to promotion and I dread to think how this lot would get on in the Championship.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I am afraid the truth of the matter is we couldn't afford the Championship even if we did, by some fluke, manage to get there this season. Since 1950
  • Score: 4

9:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Good job Stevenage didn't get a sneak preview of our teamsheet tonight. We might have lost.
Good job Stevenage didn't get a sneak preview of our teamsheet tonight. We might have lost. Oi Den!
  • Score: 7

10:02pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

SPIDEY43 wrote:
57% POSESSION 11 SHOTS 4 ON TARGET
STEVENAGE 13 SOTS 2 ON TARGET==2GOALS
SAYS IT ALL PLAY OFFS LOOKING SLIMMER ALL THE TIME
Fact is Play offs was never realistic for team building that we have undertaken. Far too weak away from home and mid table at best. Need more experience in midfield and change the central defence Troy and Branco should do a better job. Hall is never a left back and too many mistakes being made by all the players even Fods.
[quote][p][bold]SPIDEY43[/bold] wrote: 57% POSESSION 11 SHOTS 4 ON TARGET STEVENAGE 13 SOTS 2 ON TARGET==2GOALS SAYS IT ALL PLAY OFFS LOOKING SLIMMER ALL THE TIME[/p][/quote]Fact is Play offs was never realistic for team building that we have undertaken. Far too weak away from home and mid table at best. Need more experience in midfield and change the central defence Troy and Branco should do a better job. Hall is never a left back and too many mistakes being made by all the players even Fods. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 3

10:03pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Graham8181 wrote:
Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him
Guess the answer to that is why would we want to keep him
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: Hall has to play all the time it's part of the deal with spurs if we want to keep him[/p][/quote]Guess the answer to that is why would we want to keep him old town robin
  • Score: 4

10:06pm Tue 14 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

Why did anyone expect us to win tonight? Get real
Why did anyone expect us to win tonight? Get real smirg kcab
  • Score: -5

10:17pm Tue 14 Jan 14

mike1990 says...

the don69 wrote:
We are pants away from home! home form=promotion! but away form=relegation! so that=mid-table simples forget the play-off's chaps our away form is just too dire!!!!
yes but my worry is if the home form slips don, we are in the brown stuff.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: We are pants away from home! home form=promotion! but away form=relegation! so that=mid-table simples forget the play-off's chaps our away form is just too dire!!!![/p][/quote]yes but my worry is if the home form slips don, we are in the brown stuff. mike1990
  • Score: 1

10:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs,

I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.[/p][/quote]Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs, I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree. old town robin
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Tue 14 Jan 14

bradley red 1 says...

To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner. bradley red 1
  • Score: -5

10:22pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Since 1950 says...

I am beginning to think the root of the problem is we can't afford an inexperience squad with an inexperienced manager. We can't be in a position where they are all learning their trade.
I am beginning to think the root of the problem is we can't afford an inexperience squad with an inexperienced manager. We can't be in a position where they are all learning their trade. Since 1950
  • Score: 5

10:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs,

I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.
OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s
ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.[/p][/quote]Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs, I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.[/p][/quote]OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

10:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

sheriffred says...

I don't know what's worse..playing Hall at centre half (he can't tackle) or full back (he's very uncomfortable on the ball and can't get forward). He makes McEveley look like Ashley Cole!!

I know it's only one player but because of Hall we couldn't get down the left all night. and constantly had to switch play..whole thing cost us forward momentum.

Games like this need a scrapper like Louis Thompson rather than too much flair with no end result.

One positive - thought Barker looked alright but wouldn't have taken much tonight!!
I don't know what's worse..playing Hall at centre half (he can't tackle) or full back (he's very uncomfortable on the ball and can't get forward). He makes McEveley look like Ashley Cole!! I know it's only one player but because of Hall we couldn't get down the left all night. and constantly had to switch play..whole thing cost us forward momentum. Games like this need a scrapper like Louis Thompson rather than too much flair with no end result. One positive - thought Barker looked alright but wouldn't have taken much tonight!! sheriffred
  • Score: 1

10:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

Well even Cooper conceded that we have surpassed expectations this season and that is the statement that should bring us all back down to earth and get slightly more realistic with the players we have at STFC. We beat Coventry and Peterborough and expectations rise high and the feeling that all we have to do is turn up at Stevenage and the points are ours. But we lose and come crashing back to earth so the feeling of optimism disappears and its doom time again. I and many have said all along we will win games and we will lose games and that will be our season and forget play offs we are still a long way off to go for that level. As Chalkie White said on BBC Wilts we are possibly 2 or 3 players away from a very good side and we need that midfielder that is 6ft plus breaks up play wins headers and gets the ball to the ball players. We have to hope the team building is work in progress and that we can move forward and may be pick up the players we need. Its very disappointing to lose games especially at the bottom club but they wanted it more than us and we were second best all over the pitch as stated on BBC Wilts. Young team with plenty to learn yet but in a very good league position considering the rebuilt squad. Lets Hope Power can find the experience needed in midfield as the defence has four defenders battling for two slots now and I would like to see TAH given a chance with Branco. Lets now do a number on the Pikeys like we did at Rotherham please.
Well even Cooper conceded that we have surpassed expectations this season and that is the statement that should bring us all back down to earth and get slightly more realistic with the players we have at STFC. We beat Coventry and Peterborough and expectations rise high and the feeling that all we have to do is turn up at Stevenage and the points are ours. But we lose and come crashing back to earth so the feeling of optimism disappears and its doom time again. I and many have said all along we will win games and we will lose games and that will be our season and forget play offs we are still a long way off to go for that level. As Chalkie White said on BBC Wilts we are possibly 2 or 3 players away from a very good side and we need that midfielder that is 6ft plus breaks up play wins headers and gets the ball to the ball players. We have to hope the team building is work in progress and that we can move forward and may be pick up the players we need. Its very disappointing to lose games especially at the bottom club but they wanted it more than us and we were second best all over the pitch as stated on BBC Wilts. Young team with plenty to learn yet but in a very good league position considering the rebuilt squad. Lets Hope Power can find the experience needed in midfield as the defence has four defenders battling for two slots now and I would like to see TAH given a chance with Branco. Lets now do a number on the Pikeys like we did at Rotherham please. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 4

10:46pm Tue 14 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs,

I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.
OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s

ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.
Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.[/p][/quote]Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs, I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.[/p][/quote]OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.[/p][/quote]Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter. old town robin
  • Score: 3

10:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Dreadful result. I think play offs are a pipe dream.
Syd without wishing to sound clever I wrote the playoffs off before Christmas because we'd already shown several times, particularly away, that this team lacks any real fighting spirit. It could be said "when the going gets tough we disappear" what a contrast from last Saturday when everyone seemed to be battling for the win.
Shocking gaafe by Wes it seems but a rare one it must be said and ironically hadn't Hall been playing better recently?
Some things never change though - For as long as I can remember I've always thought that STFC have been one of the most benevolent in ensuring struggling opponents emerge with three points by putting in a truly shocking shift. It's mid table mediocrity for sure this season but we'll settle for that as opposed to a relegation struggle.
[quote][p][bold]Psychedelic Syd[/bold] wrote: Dreadful result. I think play offs are a pipe dream.[/p][/quote]Syd without wishing to sound clever I wrote the playoffs off before Christmas because we'd already shown several times, particularly away, that this team lacks any real fighting spirit. It could be said "when the going gets tough we disappear" what a contrast from last Saturday when everyone seemed to be battling for the win. Shocking gaafe by Wes it seems but a rare one it must be said and ironically hadn't Hall been playing better recently? Some things never change though - For as long as I can remember I've always thought that STFC have been one of the most benevolent in ensuring struggling opponents emerge with three points by putting in a truly shocking shift. It's mid table mediocrity for sure this season but we'll settle for that as opposed to a relegation struggle. The Jockster
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Tue 14 Jan 14

stranglers says...

bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
Agree 100%. Time to get rid. Cooper quotes that he has changed the way he stets up the team away from home because "the fans made it clear" so it's our fault then is it???? Weak management.
[quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]Agree 100%. Time to get rid. Cooper quotes that he has changed the way he stets up the team away from home because "the fans made it clear" so it's our fault then is it???? Weak management. stranglers
  • Score: -5

10:56pm Tue 14 Jan 14

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
After this CRAP RESULT Cooper should be banned from the County Ground....not the adver

Sort it out Power and get a real manager.
Post of the year so far, well said. both to go ASAP.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: After this CRAP RESULT Cooper should be banned from the County Ground....not the adver Sort it out Power and get a real manager.[/p][/quote]Post of the year so far, well said. both to go ASAP. stranglers
  • Score: -5

10:58pm Tue 14 Jan 14

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Storey should have come on at half time...Cooper you don't know what your doing.
Correct.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Storey should have come on at half time...Cooper you don't know what your doing.[/p][/quote]Correct. stranglers
  • Score: -5

11:00pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Cookie43 says...

bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!! Cookie43
  • Score: 6

11:02pm Tue 14 Jan 14

The Spurs Farmer says...

Was at the game tonight and can only say that I'm shocked at what a poor and clueless team we are. Cooper talks about playing attacking football ....really? All we saw was playing it along the back before having to rush it to Wes who , under pressure , kicked out or to a Stevenage player. Mason, Luongo and Kassim were completely dominated by talentless Stevenage Players and N Guessan and Ranger may as well of had the night off for all the service they received. Nathan Thompson gets worse with every game, on the few occasions he did arrive on the edge of the box, instead of crossing or getting to the byline, he would turn around and pass back to the defence! The only bright spot was the appearance of George Baker who looks a decent player. Not impressed, Cooper must learn how to prepare a team for an away game.
Was at the game tonight and can only say that I'm shocked at what a poor and clueless team we are. Cooper talks about playing attacking football ....really? All we saw was playing it along the back before having to rush it to Wes who , under pressure , kicked out or to a Stevenage player. Mason, Luongo and Kassim were completely dominated by talentless Stevenage Players and N Guessan and Ranger may as well of had the night off for all the service they received. Nathan Thompson gets worse with every game, on the few occasions he did arrive on the edge of the box, instead of crossing or getting to the byline, he would turn around and pass back to the defence! The only bright spot was the appearance of George Baker who looks a decent player. Not impressed, Cooper must learn how to prepare a team for an away game. The Spurs Farmer
  • Score: 6

11:02pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

stranglers wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
Agree 100%. Time to get rid. Cooper quotes that he has changed the way he stets up the team away from home because "the fans made it clear" so it's our fault then is it???? Weak management.
No Cooper got slated for being too negative at Sheff Utd and with our young players we are better attacking which is what the fans asked for. Problem is we are work in progress so expectations should be based on reality and not mega rich chairman and fantasy land. We are on a budget like it or not.
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]Agree 100%. Time to get rid. Cooper quotes that he has changed the way he stets up the team away from home because "the fans made it clear" so it's our fault then is it???? Weak management.[/p][/quote]No Cooper got slated for being too negative at Sheff Utd and with our young players we are better attacking which is what the fans asked for. Problem is we are work in progress so expectations should be based on reality and not mega rich chairman and fantasy land. We are on a budget like it or not. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 4

11:39pm Tue 14 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

DKO I wasn't there so no analysis on the poor performance. I was at Sheffield and yes the fans voiced their displeasure re the ultra defensive formation so Cooper has vowed to focus on attack and gone on record saying this might lose us games. What happened tonight then? If you read Spurs Farmer's account(he was there) we see the all too familiar ineffective pattern- Luongo, Kasim & Mason anonymous, (SF says overran by talentless foot of the table players)and the pussyfooting midfield tippy tappy leading again to panic throw out from Wes - Twinkle losing possession -Adkins 1-0 ta very much. D N'G & Ranger starved of service and another defensive gaafe- it's all so familiar.

I feel Cooper must take some responsibility because to play Hall at full back when we have Byrne & Jmac to come in is baffling to say the least!
DKO I wasn't there so no analysis on the poor performance. I was at Sheffield and yes the fans voiced their displeasure re the ultra defensive formation so Cooper has vowed to focus on attack and gone on record saying this might lose us games. What happened tonight then? If you read Spurs Farmer's account(he was there) we see the all too familiar ineffective pattern- Luongo, Kasim & Mason anonymous, (SF says overran by talentless foot of the table players)and the pussyfooting midfield tippy tappy leading again to panic throw out from Wes - Twinkle losing possession -Adkins 1-0 ta very much. D N'G & Ranger starved of service and another defensive gaafe- it's all so familiar. I feel Cooper must take some responsibility because to play Hall at full back when we have Byrne & Jmac to come in is baffling to say the least! The Jockster
  • Score: 2

11:42pm Tue 14 Jan 14

stranglers says...

Cookie43 wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition.

We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!![/p][/quote]I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition. We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry. stranglers
  • Score: -3

11:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

bearwoodred says...

Cookie43 wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
top man Cookie well said.
[quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!![/p][/quote]top man Cookie well said. bearwoodred
  • Score: 3

11:54pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

stranglers wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition.

We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.
Ok So get rid of Cooper, and get a new manager in with the same players and the same budget then what hey. Do you really think another manager would make much difference to the young and sometimes naive squad we have because I don't for one minute. We can all be football managers and say we will do this and we will do that but at the end of the day the tools you have to work with are the players that are at the club and are what we budget for and can afford. If you want more than this I suggest you give Power money to afford better players.
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!![/p][/quote]I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition. We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.[/p][/quote]Ok So get rid of Cooper, and get a new manager in with the same players and the same budget then what hey. Do you really think another manager would make much difference to the young and sometimes naive squad we have because I don't for one minute. We can all be football managers and say we will do this and we will do that but at the end of the day the tools you have to work with are the players that are at the club and are what we budget for and can afford. If you want more than this I suggest you give Power money to afford better players. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 4

12:05am Wed 15 Jan 14

stranglers says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
stranglers wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition.

We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.
Ok So get rid of Cooper, and get a new manager in with the same players and the same budget then what hey. Do you really think another manager would make much difference to the young and sometimes naive squad we have because I don't for one minute. We can all be football managers and say we will do this and we will do that but at the end of the day the tools you have to work with are the players that are at the club and are what we budget for and can afford. If you want more than this I suggest you give Power money to afford better players.
Yes I do think a new manager could make a big difference, credit where due I think we have a good squad (given the financial constraints) and is capable of doing better. In my opinion Cooper does not inspire, motivate, encourage, lead by example, I could go on. I guess what I am saying is that I do not think he is a "Manager".
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!![/p][/quote]I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition. We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.[/p][/quote]Ok So get rid of Cooper, and get a new manager in with the same players and the same budget then what hey. Do you really think another manager would make much difference to the young and sometimes naive squad we have because I don't for one minute. We can all be football managers and say we will do this and we will do that but at the end of the day the tools you have to work with are the players that are at the club and are what we budget for and can afford. If you want more than this I suggest you give Power money to afford better players.[/p][/quote]Yes I do think a new manager could make a big difference, credit where due I think we have a good squad (given the financial constraints) and is capable of doing better. In my opinion Cooper does not inspire, motivate, encourage, lead by example, I could go on. I guess what I am saying is that I do not think he is a "Manager". stranglers
  • Score: -3

12:08am Wed 15 Jan 14

Di kanny oh says...

The Jockster wrote:
DKO I wasn't there so no analysis on the poor performance. I was at Sheffield and yes the fans voiced their displeasure re the ultra defensive formation so Cooper has vowed to focus on attack and gone on record saying this might lose us games. What happened tonight then? If you read Spurs Farmer's account(he was there) we see the all too familiar ineffective pattern- Luongo, Kasim & Mason anonymous, (SF says overran by talentless foot of the table players)and the pussyfooting midfield tippy tappy leading again to panic throw out from Wes - Twinkle losing possession -Adkins 1-0 ta very much. D N'G & Ranger starved of service and another defensive gaafe- it's all so familiar.

I feel Cooper must take some responsibility because to play Hall at full back when we have Byrne & Jmac to come in is baffling to say the least!
May be Jock but some are saying Hall has to play according to the agreement which means I would send him back if this were the case. I listened to the game on BBC Wilts and Chalkie White gave a decent account of the game saying we were second best. Cooper said on the radio that mistakes have cost us but also mentioned we are in a better place in the division than expected so our expectations are getting the better of us may be. We have been spoilt by a decent home record which papers over the cracks possibly and we are really just a mid table ordinary team. How would you suggest Cooper changes it then with what we have. We have to face facts that we are a few players away from the finished article. We have an excellent home record so Cooper must be doing something right. Changing the manager offers no guarantees to do any better or worse but we are far better off with Cooper than McDonald I feel.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: DKO I wasn't there so no analysis on the poor performance. I was at Sheffield and yes the fans voiced their displeasure re the ultra defensive formation so Cooper has vowed to focus on attack and gone on record saying this might lose us games. What happened tonight then? If you read Spurs Farmer's account(he was there) we see the all too familiar ineffective pattern- Luongo, Kasim & Mason anonymous, (SF says overran by talentless foot of the table players)and the pussyfooting midfield tippy tappy leading again to panic throw out from Wes - Twinkle losing possession -Adkins 1-0 ta very much. D N'G & Ranger starved of service and another defensive gaafe- it's all so familiar. I feel Cooper must take some responsibility because to play Hall at full back when we have Byrne & Jmac to come in is baffling to say the least![/p][/quote]May be Jock but some are saying Hall has to play according to the agreement which means I would send him back if this were the case. I listened to the game on BBC Wilts and Chalkie White gave a decent account of the game saying we were second best. Cooper said on the radio that mistakes have cost us but also mentioned we are in a better place in the division than expected so our expectations are getting the better of us may be. We have been spoilt by a decent home record which papers over the cracks possibly and we are really just a mid table ordinary team. How would you suggest Cooper changes it then with what we have. We have to face facts that we are a few players away from the finished article. We have an excellent home record so Cooper must be doing something right. Changing the manager offers no guarantees to do any better or worse but we are far better off with Cooper than McDonald I feel. Di kanny oh
  • Score: 7

12:10am Wed 15 Jan 14

Cookie43 says...

stranglers wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.
YAWN!!!!!!
Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC
Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club
No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League.
At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them.
Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits.
If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW.
Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan.
I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!!
I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition.

We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.
ITS not 2nd best its all we can afford!!!
Do you lot not understand WE HAVE NO MONEY!!!!
We have to survive within our means we have not money a team put together on a shoe string and we are in the top 10 what the hell do you want???
Wake up and smell the coffee we have gates around 7,000 we can not afford to go out and spend all we can do is survive How can having a team to support which is in the top 10 with a manager willing to put up with all the crap be 2nd best?? i for one am thankful to have a team to support.
Tell me please whats the alternative??
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cookie43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: To be easily beaten by a very poor side in stevenage should tell its own story...going no where with current squad,manager,owner.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!!!!! Yet again another pop at Everything connected with STFC Try and get your head around the fact we are a poor (money wise) club No money and we are punching above our Weight after all the Crap we have gone through we are very lucky to be where we are in the League. At the start of the season most fans would of been happy with mid table safety. Peterborough had a 1.2 million pound striker yet we beat them. yes we rode our luck but we beat them. Cooper under severe financial restrictions is managing to get some results that will keep us in this league and maybe more. Why do you constantly attack him?? Power is trying to bring in players but we can not compete financially in the market even Rotherham beat us to the striker Thomas from bournemouth. Can you not see that we have to live within our limits. If you want them all gone then tell us all NOW WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE BRADLEY RED?? TELL US ALL AS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW. Just for once try backing your team and stop this Hate campaign you are attacking the squad manager and owners you can not possibly call yourself a town fan. I for one will see if they can bring in a couple of defenders as thats obvious where we are weak but i will be happy with safety this season after all the major changes we have had. yes i will be happy if we get more but i will support the team through thick and thin, I am writing this on my phone on way back from game not a good performance but unlike BRADLEY RED i will not attack my Club as i am a fan maybe Bradley Red you should head down the 420!!!!![/p][/quote]I am with you BR1. Rose tinted glasses again this lot. Accepting 2nd best, zero ambition. We are all fans, and all support the club in one way or another, some of us care more than others. Cooper to go, sorry.[/p][/quote]ITS not 2nd best its all we can afford!!! Do you lot not understand WE HAVE NO MONEY!!!! We have to survive within our means we have not money a team put together on a shoe string and we are in the top 10 what the hell do you want??? Wake up and smell the coffee we have gates around 7,000 we can not afford to go out and spend all we can do is survive How can having a team to support which is in the top 10 with a manager willing to put up with all the crap be 2nd best?? i for one am thankful to have a team to support. Tell me please whats the alternative?? Cookie43
  • Score: 7

12:37am Wed 15 Jan 14

california andy says...

Hall is neither a central defender nor a left back. Rather, he should be left out. And if that means a return trip to Spurs, so be it. As Bobby Dylan once (almost) sang: He ain't going nowhere. A poor excuse for a professional footballer. Nathan keeps playing poorly by all accounts. Barthram much better than him, so drop Nathan till he wakes up. And heretical as it may seem, perhaps Wes to the bench to see if that helps matters. Someone needs to light a fire under these guys. They just don't battle - cold night, poor crowd, physical opponents = give up. Too many times, I'm afraid. Louis Thompson for mid-field. At least he bites. Jay Mac in central defence for some height, if Troy is still unfit, and Byrne at full back. Time to change things big time at the back and (so far as we can) in midfield. We've gone more than half a season now, and too many games like Shrewsbury, Preston, and tonight. Not Cooper's fault, imho, but rather the lack of character some of our young ones display. Will they grow out of it? Maybe some of them. Hall for sure will not. Weak in every sense of the term. Get rid.
Hall is neither a central defender nor a left back. Rather, he should be left out. And if that means a return trip to Spurs, so be it. As Bobby Dylan once (almost) sang: He ain't going nowhere. A poor excuse for a professional footballer. Nathan keeps playing poorly by all accounts. Barthram much better than him, so drop Nathan till he wakes up. And heretical as it may seem, perhaps Wes to the bench to see if that helps matters. Someone needs to light a fire under these guys. They just don't battle - cold night, poor crowd, physical opponents = give up. Too many times, I'm afraid. Louis Thompson for mid-field. At least he bites. Jay Mac in central defence for some height, if Troy is still unfit, and Byrne at full back. Time to change things big time at the back and (so far as we can) in midfield. We've gone more than half a season now, and too many games like Shrewsbury, Preston, and tonight. Not Cooper's fault, imho, but rather the lack of character some of our young ones display. Will they grow out of it? Maybe some of them. Hall for sure will not. Weak in every sense of the term. Get rid. california andy
  • Score: 0

8:57am Wed 15 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs,

I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.
OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s


ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.
Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter.
OTR, Cooper can't do anything about it if he's not able to bring players in. How can it be his fault if Power's players are not good enough? With such a weak squad, some of the results Cooper has achieved have been near-miraculous.

If you look at other clubs throughout the League, would you say it's always the manager's fault if they are struggling? Stevenage? Is it Westley's fault that they are at the wrong end of the table? An exceptionally good manager might get a squad performing above its perceived capabilities; a very poor manager might fail with a strong squad. However, more often than not, league positions reflect the ability of the players. Too many managers get blamed for poor results from players who are just not good enough.

I believe, as I have done all season, that the best we can hope for from our players is a mid-table finish. That would be a job well done by Cooper.

You ask me what the weaknesses are. We all know what they are. The defence is full of holes, the midfield (Louis Thompson excepted - is Cooper allowed to play him ahead of the blue eyed boys?) has no bite and we have a strike force that's largely dependent on the whims of someone who most fans seem content to be allowed to please himself.

All in all, great work from Cooper. Give him three good signings and he will get this squad promoted. No signings and we will finish around 12th. I would have no complaints about that.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.[/p][/quote]Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs, I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.[/p][/quote]OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.[/p][/quote]Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter.[/p][/quote]OTR, Cooper can't do anything about it if he's not able to bring players in. How can it be his fault if Power's players are not good enough? With such a weak squad, some of the results Cooper has achieved have been near-miraculous. If you look at other clubs throughout the League, would you say it's always the manager's fault if they are struggling? Stevenage? Is it Westley's fault that they are at the wrong end of the table? An exceptionally good manager might get a squad performing above its perceived capabilities; a very poor manager might fail with a strong squad. However, more often than not, league positions reflect the ability of the players. Too many managers get blamed for poor results from players who are just not good enough. I believe, as I have done all season, that the best we can hope for from our players is a mid-table finish. That would be a job well done by Cooper. You ask me what the weaknesses are. We all know what they are. The defence is full of holes, the midfield (Louis Thompson excepted - is Cooper allowed to play him ahead of the blue eyed boys?) has no bite and we have a strike force that's largely dependent on the whims of someone who most fans seem content to be allowed to please himself. All in all, great work from Cooper. Give him three good signings and he will get this squad promoted. No signings and we will finish around 12th. I would have no complaints about that. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

9:22am Wed 15 Jan 14

Bassett Hound says...

Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern.
I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.
Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs,

I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.
OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s



ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.
Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter.
OTR, Cooper can't do anything about it if he's not able to bring players in. How can it be his fault if Power's players are not good enough? With such a weak squad, some of the results Cooper has achieved have been near-miraculous.

If you look at other clubs throughout the League, would you say it's always the manager's fault if they are struggling? Stevenage? Is it Westley's fault that they are at the wrong end of the table? An exceptionally good manager might get a squad performing above its perceived capabilities; a very poor manager might fail with a strong squad. However, more often than not, league positions reflect the ability of the players. Too many managers get blamed for poor results from players who are just not good enough.

I believe, as I have done all season, that the best we can hope for from our players is a mid-table finish. That would be a job well done by Cooper.

You ask me what the weaknesses are. We all know what they are. The defence is full of holes, the midfield (Louis Thompson excepted - is Cooper allowed to play him ahead of the blue eyed boys?) has no bite and we have a strike force that's largely dependent on the whims of someone who most fans seem content to be allowed to please himself.

All in all, great work from Cooper. Give him three good signings and he will get this squad promoted. No signings and we will finish around 12th. I would have no complaints about that.
I agree with you Den, the only thing I can not understand is why these same players can play so well at home, but be consistently poor away. The manager can't absolve himself from these performances and keep blaming their age and inexperience particularly when their age and inexperience seems not to be a problem at home.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Isn't it now obvious to everyone - even the superoptimists - that this squad lacks character? Win at home, fail to turn up away. It's a depressing pattern. I don't blame Cooper at all. We need at least two defenders, one of them a captain, and a battling midfielder if this team is going to achieve any consistency. Given those improvememts, we'd see vastly better results. It's a long way from a crisis. I just think we need to recognise the squad for what it is - one that can't handle the pressure of playing away from home, even against poor sides like Stevenage.[/p][/quote]Den, how can you say you don't blame Cooper at all? as the head coach or manager he has to take some responsibility. Power may take responsibility of buying and selling, but surely Cooper has to pick the team, (which by the way I would not have changed tonight), he sets the tactics based on the opposition and makes the call on the subs, I'm not asking for his head, but something is not right and IMO when things don't go right, he has to acknowledge some responsibility if the team he has fielded does not perform for him away from home, but do manage to do the business at home, questions have to be asked or do you not agree.[/p][/quote]OTR, I do agree questions have to be asked. The pattern of results makes me question the character of the players not the abilities of the manager. Loads of technical ability in the squad but not nearly enough desire. I believe Cooper has worked wonders to get the good results he has from these players. Away from home, he's picked different teams, different tactics/formations/s ubstitutions and the result has nearly always been the same - defeat and poor performances. The manager can only do so much with the material he's got to work with. I think he's doing as well as can be expected with a squad with such glaring weaknesses in it.[/p][/quote]Den, you and I are most probably in the same mode we only see them at home and it's hard to see the glaring weaknesses you mentioned. So what are those weaknesses and why do you think Cooper is not responsible for doing something about it? As you say, Cooper has tried different formations away from home to try and combat and despite one or two outstanding results at QPR, Rotherham and Colchester, for the most part my heart goes out to those loyal fans that have followed our team and see such abject performances. There is an answer to the problem, but i fail to understand why you think Cooper does not have any responsibility if he picks the team or are you of the opinion he has no say on this matter.[/p][/quote]OTR, Cooper can't do anything about it if he's not able to bring players in. How can it be his fault if Power's players are not good enough? With such a weak squad, some of the results Cooper has achieved have been near-miraculous. If you look at other clubs throughout the League, would you say it's always the manager's fault if they are struggling? Stevenage? Is it Westley's fault that they are at the wrong end of the table? An exceptionally good manager might get a squad performing above its perceived capabilities; a very poor manager might fail with a strong squad. However, more often than not, league positions reflect the ability of the players. Too many managers get blamed for poor results from players who are just not good enough. I believe, as I have done all season, that the best we can hope for from our players is a mid-table finish. That would be a job well done by Cooper. You ask me what the weaknesses are. We all know what they are. The defence is full of holes, the midfield (Louis Thompson excepted - is Cooper allowed to play him ahead of the blue eyed boys?) has no bite and we have a strike force that's largely dependent on the whims of someone who most fans seem content to be allowed to please himself. All in all, great work from Cooper. Give him three good signings and he will get this squad promoted. No signings and we will finish around 12th. I would have no complaints about that.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Den, the only thing I can not understand is why these same players can play so well at home, but be consistently poor away. The manager can't absolve himself from these performances and keep blaming their age and inexperience particularly when their age and inexperience seems not to be a problem at home. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Bassett, I think the problem is that the players are faced with a completely different sort of challenge away from home and they are not equipped to handle it.
Bassett, I think the problem is that the players are faced with a completely different sort of challenge away from home and they are not equipped to handle it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Upminster robins says...

I think what needs to be sorted out is do the people at the top want a Championship side or are they happy to be a middle of the road third division side. The talent is there and promotion should have occurred last season, but
talk of selling Wes for a measly £500,000 when he is worth 5 times that makes me wonder.
I think what needs to be sorted out is do the people at the top want a Championship side or are they happy to be a middle of the road third division side. The talent is there and promotion should have occurred last season, but talk of selling Wes for a measly £500,000 when he is worth 5 times that makes me wonder. Upminster robins
  • Score: 0

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