MATCHDAY LIVE: Swindon Town v Scunthorpe United (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

louiscassius wrote:
Fcking hell Flint!!!

What the hell!!!

Jesus, Paolo will have to take Benson off and put Macca on....

COYR'sssssssssssssss

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Louis :-))) Come on!!!!

Blazing Riff wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
Fcking hell Flint!!!

What the hell!!!

Jesus, Paolo will have to take Benson off and put Macca on....

COYR'sssssssssssssss


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Louis :-))) Come on!!!!

....he must've been following this! possibly Bostock on at some stage to replace Ferry or, Miller?

louiscassius wrote:
We'll still gonna win and big!!!

I reckon 4 - 1.....come on you reds.....

Lets get behind our boysssss.

Louis :-)))

Blazing Riff wrote:

louiscassius wrote:
We'll still gonna win and big!!!

I reckon 4 - 1.....come on you reds.....

Lets get behind our boysssss.

Louis :-)))

we just need the 3 then!

bradley red 1 wrote:
Anybody else heard dicanio is off? rumour going around today,not happy with certain things going on behind the scenes,would not surpise me at all.

ciclosporindorset wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
Anybody else heard dicanio is off? rumour going around today,not happy with certain things going on behind the scenes,would not surpise me at all.

In the absence of news from the horses mouth then rumours will surface but I would be very surprised. If PDC is requested not to give post match interviews - whilst highly entertaining in theirv own right - they have damaged the reputation of the club - if only in my in my eyes. A little refelction first would not go amiss.

Redhouse Red wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
Anybody else heard dicanio is off? rumour going around today,not happy with certain things going on behind the scenes,would not surpise me at all.

In the absence of news from the horses mouth then rumours will surface but I would be very surprised. If PDC is requested not to give post match interviews - whilst highly entertaining in theirv own right - they have damaged the reputation of the club - if only in my in my eyes. A little refelction first would not go amiss.

In my infinite wisdom ill say he's off.

If that is the case, the owners may have a lot of work to do very quickly...

RobinsTalk wrote:
Did anyone else see the way Paolo stared in the direction of the directors seats after the Rooney miss. Maybe it was just the way I read it but to me it looked like he was saying 'see, I told you our strikers aren't good enough'.

RobinsTalk wrote:
Did anyone else see the way Paolo stared in the direction of the directors seats after the Rooney miss. Maybe it was just the way I read it but to me it looked like he was saying 'see, I told you our strikers aren't good enough'.

stfc2012 wrote:
Missing togetherness and fluidity on the pitch. I'd say most players aren't happy at the moment despite the same old comments to the contrary. I don't think many believe in the methods used and you need belief to shine. You also need room to express yourself on the pitch and theses players look like those playing through fear. We have the odd good passage of nice neat football but we are not as good as we seem to think we are and teams are coping with us. We are 6th and this is not a bad position but its not easy to get out of this league: ask Huddersfield. Things are not right. Obvious from the lack of post match interview. The next 3 games could prove to be the biggest of the season and I wonder if Villa is keeping the manager here for the moment. I'd like to see a manager respond differently with the embargo and rather than say 'I'll consider my position' say 'ok we didn't get that quite right but let's stand up and be counted, do our best with what we've got and reshuffle come jan. almost every manager in leagues 1 and 2 and a few up above would like the town job and its budget. Time will tell

mikek wrote:
The game today showed that we are getting too predictable even against one of the poorest sides this season we just played into their hands most times. Thompson was MOM today by a mile but Ritchie's very poor pass put him into trouble and he was clattered as a result and Ritchie was a pale shadow of the player we have come to love. Ferry got MOM due to Thommo going off but he was the next best player anyway. Flint let himself and the team down and won't need telling that I'm sure. We have to recall Luke Rooney he would have been the perfect foil today to run at their players and I think we are missing someone like him to challenge Roberts and Ritchie. Ritchie really is struggling and should be looking over his shoulder but who is there to pressure him. Adam Rooney is a very poor striker and Birmingham must have rubbed their hands with delight after getting Caddis in exchange even though Cadds is injured at present. Missing Williams up front but for me far too many passengers on the pitch at the moment and what on earth has happened to Jay Mac who was quite shocking today. Injuries will take their toll now and with Flint suspended we really are going to be struggling I feel. What has happened to Devera I hear he is training alone.

mikek wrote:
The game today showed that we are getting too predictable even against one of the poorest sides this season we just played into their hands most times. Thompson was MOM today by a mile but Ritchie's very poor pass put him into trouble and he was clattered as a result and Ritchie was a pale shadow of the player we have come to love. Ferry got MOM due to Thommo going off but he was the next best player anyway. Flint let himself and the team down and won't need telling that I'm sure. We have to recall Luke Rooney he would have been the perfect foil today to run at their players and I think we are missing someone like him to challenge Roberts and Ritchie. Ritchie really is struggling and should be looking over his shoulder but who is there to pressure him. Adam Rooney is a very poor striker and Birmingham must have rubbed their hands with delight after getting Caddis in exchange even though Cadds is injured at present. Missing Williams up front but for me far too many passengers on the pitch at the moment and what on earth has happened to Jay Mac who was quite shocking today. Injuries will take their toll now and with Flint suspended we really are going to be struggling I feel. What has happened to Devera I hear he is training alone.

stigger wrote:
Too much doom and gloom on here, we still have a very good squad and still should've won with 10 men, Roberts, Rooney, Ward all should have scored and Macca twice got into very good positions where should have picked someone out with a cut back and he ws angry with himself when he didn't. Flint's first yellow was the stupid one, a needless tackle, the second was one of them if he hadn't done it a strong chance Clarke would have been clean through. As for game i do think it would have been a win without the red. Thompson did well and certainly likes a tackle, I thought Ward and Macca both did well although will be interested to see their goal again as seemed too straight forward. Big fan of Jay and did some good stuff today, particularly a couple of balls in in first half but too many sloppy things today from a class act. Ritchie still struggled to get decent balls into the box although in last 15 mins he was quite prominent and looking dangerous. Roberts has great feet and can beat a man without even touching the ball but still disappointed with how seldom the ball actually made it into box. Miller is neat and tidy but for me he's not much more than that at the minute and can't believe he is ahead of Ferry who for me was awesome again, ran all day (i'd love to see the stats for ground covered as i'm sure Ferry's would be way above most and loads more than Miller) broke up lots of their attacks, instrumental in most of our passing moves and should be in team every week. Benson was doing ok before being sacrificed looking to link play, good assist but a couple of sloppy lay offs. Collins - big hats off too him, another goal, worked his socks off and had a good game. Rooney when he came on looked dangerous and put himself about, but should have done better with his chance. Troy was solid when he was on as well. Is 2 points dropped in my opinion but still enough there to think we will continue to challenge, with 2 very good deliverers on the wings they must get the ball in the box more, appreciate there may have been less to aim at with only one striker but think this has been problem in other games as well. COYR!

Oi Den! wrote:
Interesting that the new chairman says one of the aims is to get the loans to the club written off, so that the company becomes more attractive to potential investors. He explains that Sir Martyn Arbib is prepared to write off his loan and he is hoping that AF and JW will do the same. Is it really likely that two people who have been pushed aside will say "Yes, fine, I don't want my money back." It's all very well Sir William dismissing the loans as having very little value. Surely a loan is worth whatever amount it is? I can't see the fact that there's currently little chance of the club being able to repay the debt persuading our two former chairmen to waive their right to repayment. But again I could be missing something.

jayden wrote:

stigger wrote:
Too much doom and gloom on here, we still have a very good squad and still should've won with 10 men, Roberts, Rooney, Ward all should have scored and Macca twice got into very good positions where should have picked someone out with a cut back and he ws angry with himself when he didn't. Flint's first yellow was the stupid one, a needless tackle, the second was one of them if he hadn't done it a strong chance Clarke would have been clean through. As for game i do think it would have been a win without the red. Thompson did well and certainly likes a tackle, I thought Ward and Macca both did well although will be interested to see their goal again as seemed too straight forward. Big fan of Jay and did some good stuff today, particularly a couple of balls in in first half but too many sloppy things today from a class act. Ritchie still struggled to get decent balls into the box although in last 15 mins he was quite prominent and looking dangerous. Roberts has great feet and can beat a man without even touching the ball but still disappointed with how seldom the ball actually made it into box. Miller is neat and tidy but for me he's not much more than that at the minute and can't believe he is ahead of Ferry who for me was awesome again, ran all day (i'd love to see the stats for ground covered as i'm sure Ferry's would be way above most and loads more than Miller) broke up lots of their attacks, instrumental in most of our passing moves and should be in team every week. Benson was doing ok before being sacrificed looking to link play, good assist but a couple of sloppy lay offs. Collins - big hats off too him, another goal, worked his socks off and had a good game. Rooney when he came on looked dangerous and put himself about, but should have done better with his chance. Troy was solid when he was on as well. Is 2 points dropped in my opinion but still enough there to think we will continue to challenge, with 2 very good deliverers on the wings they must get the ball in the box more, appreciate there may have been less to aim at with only one striker but think this has been problem in other games as well. COYR!

At last some football talk, thanks for that .

mikek wrote:
The game today showed that we are getting too predictable even against one of the poorest sides this season we just played into their hands most times. Thompson was MOM today by a mile but Ritchie's very poor pass put him into trouble and he was clattered as a result and Ritchie was a pale shadow of the player we have come to love. Ferry got MOM due to Thommo going off but he was the next best player anyway. Flint let himself and the team down and won't need telling that I'm sure. We have to recall Luke Rooney he would have been the perfect foil today to run at their players and I think we are missing someone like him to challenge Roberts and Ritchie. Ritchie really is struggling and should be looking over his shoulder but who is there to pressure him. Adam Rooney is a very poor striker and Birmingham must have rubbed their hands with delight after getting Caddis in exchange even though Cadds is injured at present. Missing Williams up front but for me far too many passengers on the pitch at the moment and what on earth has happened to Jay Mac who was quite shocking today. Injuries will take their toll now and with Flint suspended we really are going to be struggling I feel. What has happened to Devera I hear he is training alone.

stigger wrote:
Too much doom and gloom on here, we still have a very good squad and still should've won with 10 men, Roberts, Rooney, Ward all should have scored and Macca twice got into very good positions where should have picked someone out with a cut back and he ws angry with himself when he didn't. Flint's first yellow was the stupid one, a needless tackle, the second was one of them if he hadn't done it a strong chance Clarke would have been clean through. As for game i do think it would have been a win without the red. Thompson did well and certainly likes a tackle, I thought Ward and Macca both did well although will be interested to see their goal again as seemed too straight forward. Big fan of Jay and did some good stuff today, particularly a couple of balls in in first half but too many sloppy things today from a class act. Ritchie still struggled to get decent balls into the box although in last 15 mins he was quite prominent and looking dangerous. Roberts has great feet and can beat a man without even touching the ball but still disappointed with how seldom the ball actually made it into box. Miller is neat and tidy but for me he's not much more than that at the minute and can't believe he is ahead of Ferry who for me was awesome again, ran all day (i'd love to see the stats for ground covered as i'm sure Ferry's would be way above most and loads more than Miller) broke up lots of their attacks, instrumental in most of our passing moves and should be in team every week. Benson was doing ok before being sacrificed looking to link play, good assist but a couple of sloppy lay offs. Collins - big hats off too him, another goal, worked his socks off and had a good game. Rooney when he came on looked dangerous and put himself about, but should have done better with his chance. Troy was solid when he was on as well. Is 2 points dropped in my opinion but still enough there to think we will continue to challenge, with 2 very good deliverers on the wings they must get the ball in the box more, appreciate there may have been less to aim at with only one striker but think this has been problem in other games as well. COYR!

Since 1950 wrote:

RobinsTalk wrote: Did anyone else see the way Paolo stared in the direction of the directors seats after the Rooney miss. Maybe it was just the way I read it but to me it looked like he was saying 'see, I told you our strikers aren't good enough'.

I'm a big Paolo fan. But if he was looking at the directors after Rooney missed a sitter (again) it's as much Paolo's fault as the directors. They're Paolo's players. He picked them and has had more backing than any manager in our history I would argue. Sorry, I know I bang on about this but we miss Caddis. We haven't been the same without him in the side. Also for the first time I would say that Paolo got the sub wrong today after the sending off. We could have gone 4-3-2 and been comfortable against a poor Scunthorpe side. We had nowt up front after Benno went off. We even had to play a short corner shortly after as we had no height up front. Not good enough for automatic I'm afraid. Play-offs at best. COYR! ps Sam. I still say we'll be looking for a new manager before Christmas.

the wizard wrote:
Oh dear, home performances don't get any better do they. Clarke was always going to influence the game at some or so I thought, and then annoyed when he did. Even before Flints dismissal the warning signs were there and despite our goal I always thought they looked a threat. My thoughts are that Ritchie may be carrying a knock, he is far from his best and to be honest a lot of the rest look like they are League Two not League One. Rather surprised nobody has sighted RDV as a possible player who could help turn things around. His play this season is greatly improved. Roberts is an undoubtedly a good player but there is little fluid movement to his sprints, spurts, ducking and running through. His quick lay offs and passes are great but often of the hospital pass type as the receiving player is totally surrounded or quickly tackled. I was very annoyed that the ref allowed Thompson to become a target in the second half. He was tackled unfairly on a number of occasions which resulted in him leaving the field of play, bad, bad decisions today cost us, but then again at times our own interplay was woeful. Some players couldn't aim their own Pi55 into a bucket let alone the ball into net or box. One thing which also stood out, to complement Ferry we needed a Jonathan Smith type player in the middle. We haven't got one just now and that showed to. Two points dropped, and I'm sorry to feel so neg but as it stands, this collection of players is not promotion material over the season. Admittedly injuries are taking their toll, but the gaffer is right, with what we have, this is not a promotion season right now, maybe later after Christmas, we shall see. still along way to go, but much work to do.

Oxon-Red wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

RobinsTalk wrote: Did anyone else see the way Paolo stared in the direction of the directors seats after the Rooney miss. Maybe it was just the way I read it but to me it looked like he was saying 'see, I told you our strikers aren't good enough'.

I'm a big Paolo fan. But if he was looking at the directors after Rooney missed a sitter (again) it's as much Paolo's fault as the directors. They're Paolo's players. He picked them and has had more backing than any manager in our history I would argue. Sorry, I know I bang on about this but we miss Caddis. We haven't been the same without him in the side. Also for the first time I would say that Paolo got the sub wrong today after the sending off. We could have gone 4-3-2 and been comfortable against a poor Scunthorpe side. We had nowt up front after Benno went off. We even had to play a short corner shortly after as we had no height up front. Not good enough for automatic I'm afraid. Play-offs at best. COYR! ps Sam. I still say we'll be looking for a new manager before Christmas.

Interesting thought going 4-3-2 but who would you have taken off ?

We couldn't remain with Nathan at Centre half and Ferry at full back so it would have have to have been Williams, Ritchie or Ferry for Macca.

I felt it was the right decision to remove Benson and try to keep what we had at the time.

COYMR

avo wrote:
I thought the team started brightly today, deservedly went ahead in the 1st quarter of the game whilst scunny did always appear to offer some form of threat by spreading the ball out wide with speed going forward.
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Flint's sending off was justified imo, I see nothing wrong in the ref's decision making on both offences.
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What I saw from then on was 100% commitment and effort from our 10, and although we conceded, could have easily gone on to win it at the end.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the game, I thought it was a full blooded affair and whilst there were plenty of bookings it never once became ugly, it was just a whole hearted, dogged affair with both teams scrapping competitively for possession. I thought the work rate from our midfield was outstanding, and special mention to Thompson too, for me he was MoM, what a prospect he is. I dont get to many games these days sp can't judge today's performance against others this season, but I really dont get post match comments like 'mid table at best this season' and 'we have no spirit'
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Was I really watching a different game to some, or am I easily pleased, at this moment in time we have been good enough this season to currently sit 6th in the league, and as for spirit, I thought the lads displayed it in abundance today.
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As for the comings and goings in the boardroom, and the effect on Paolo, what will be will be. Having read all articles and listened to all interviews, I firmly believe the appointment of Patey is the right move forward off the pitch, and if it means Paolo goes, as much as I don't want that to happen, i'm sure the board will want a replacement with the calibre to achieve the 3 year plan. i dont really see any need for panic...
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Forgot (nearly) to mention that at times today, our football was sublime. Too good for league 1!!!!!

London Red wrote:
Avo - trouble is at the moment it is only at times
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In the games I have seen at home
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MK we were totally dominant in the first 45 and then comfortable in the 2nd while not being as much of a threat
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Yet Orient Coventry and Today it is it patches - the odd move here and there
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Why do we get sucked into the pass back and hoof when we do get going we tear teams apart - so why not do it more like MK or Pompy for 80 odd mins????

Since 1950 wrote:

RobinsTalk wrote:
Did anyone else see the way Paolo stared in the direction of the directors seats after the Rooney miss. Maybe it was just the way I read it but to me it looked like he was saying 'see, I told you our strikers aren't good enough'.

I'm a big Paolo fan. But if he was looking at the directors after Rooney missed a sitter (again) it's as much Paolo's fault as the directors. They're Paolo's players. He picked them and has had more backing than any manager in our history I would argue.

Sorry, I know I bang on about this but we miss Caddis. We haven't been the same without him in the side.

Also for the first time I would say that Paolo got the sub wrong today after the sending off. We could have gone 4-3-2 and been comfortable against a poor Scunthorpe side. We had nowt up front after Benno went off. We even had to play a short corner shortly after as we had no height up front.
Not good enough for automatic I'm afraid. Play-offs at best.

COYR!

ps Sam. I still say we'll be looking for a new manager before Christmas.

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Interesting that the new chairman says one of the aims is to get the loans to the club written off, so that the company becomes more attractive to potential investors. He explains that Sir Martyn Arbib is prepared to write off his loan and he is hoping that AF and JW will do the same. Is it really likely that two people who have been pushed aside will say "Yes, fine, I don't want my money back." It's all very well Sir William dismissing the loans as having very little value. Surely a loan is worth whatever amount it is? I can't see the fact that there's currently little chance of the club being able to repay the debt persuading our two former chairmen to waive their right to repayment. But again I could be missing something.

Den,

I heard about the loans from the guy that sits next to me. Perhaps someone can help here !

Are our debts taken into account regarding the embargo ?

By writing off the loans will the embargo be lifted ?

COYMR

jayden wrote:

avo wrote:
I thought the team started brightly today, deservedly went ahead in the 1st quarter of the game whilst scunny did always appear to offer some form of threat by spreading the ball out wide with speed going forward.
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Flint's sending off was justified imo, I see nothing wrong in the ref's decision making on both offences.
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What I saw from then on was 100% commitment and effort from our 10, and although we conceded, could have easily gone on to win it at the end.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the game, I thought it was a full blooded affair and whilst there were plenty of bookings it never once became ugly, it was just a whole hearted, dogged affair with both teams scrapping competitively for possession. I thought the work rate from our midfield was outstanding, and special mention to Thompson too, for me he was MoM, what a prospect he is. I dont get to many games these days sp can't judge today's performance against others this season, but I really dont get post match comments like 'mid table at best this season' and 'we have no spirit'
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Was I really watching a different game to some, or am I easily pleased, at this moment in time we have been good enough this season to currently sit 6th in the league, and as for spirit, I thought the lads displayed it in abundance today.
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As for the comings and goings in the boardroom, and the effect on Paolo, what will be will be. Having read all articles and listened to all interviews, I firmly believe the appointment of Patey is the right move forward off the pitch, and if it means Paolo goes, as much as I don't want that to happen, i'm sure the board will want a replacement with the calibre to achieve the 3 year plan. i dont really see any need for panic...
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Forgot (nearly) to mention that at times today, our football was sublime. Too good for league 1!!!!!

This is more like it FOOTBALL TALK good post

Chickengeorge wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Interesting that the new chairman says one of the aims is to get the loans to the club written off, so that the company becomes more attractive to potential investors. He explains that Sir Martyn Arbib is prepared to write off his loan and he is hoping that AF and JW will do the same. Is it really likely that two people who have been pushed aside will say "Yes, fine, I don't want my money back." It's all very well Sir William dismissing the loans as having very little value. Surely a loan is worth whatever amount it is? I can't see the fact that there's currently little chance of the club being able to repay the debt persuading our two former chairmen to waive their right to repayment. But again I could be missing something.

Den,

I heard about the loans from the guy that sits next to me. Perhaps someone can help here !

Are our debts taken into account regarding the embargo ?

By writing off the loans will the embargo be lifted ?

COYMR

Nice that you live in a decent town.
League is not too important, local pride is:

4-0 to the Oxford boys!

Chickengeorge wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Interesting that the new chairman says one of the aims is to get the loans to the club written off, so that the company becomes more attractive to potential investors. He explains that Sir Martyn Arbib is prepared to write off his loan and he is hoping that AF and JW will do the same. Is it really likely that two people who have been pushed aside will say "Yes, fine, I don't want my money back." It's all very well Sir William dismissing the loans as having very little value. Surely a loan is worth whatever amount it is? I can't see the fact that there's currently little chance of the club being able to repay the debt persuading our two former chairmen to waive their right to repayment. But again I could be missing something.

Den,

I heard about the loans from the guy that sits next to me. Perhaps someone can help here !

Are our debts taken into account regarding the embargo ?

By writing off the loans will the embargo be lifted ?

COYMR

Nice that you live in a decent town.
League is not too important, local pride is:

4-0 to the Oxford boys!

hornet wrote:
It's true wray could not stand up to Paolo the board are unhappy not so much with the embargo but more that the manager made it public . The problem is that last year Paolo fielded 38 players the club payed the highest amount of money 500k in agent fees . This year they have already spent over the budget in players ( hence the embargo) and Paolos agent phill spence agrees all the deals in and out of the county ground they now have
had enough of the managers constant demands

Oi Den! wrote:
No comment on the game from me as I couldn't get there. Left home this morning armed with season ticket and scarf thinking I would at least make 2nd half but no joy. . LR, I understand all that about the loans but I can't believe they have suddenly become valueless. It was always unlikely that the loan creditors would get paid, wasn't it? If AF and JW didn't write the loans off when they were still big noises at the club, why would they give their money away now?

Malkym wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
No comment on the game from me as I couldn't get there. Left home this morning armed with season ticket and scarf thinking I would at least make 2nd half but no joy. . LR, I understand all that about the loans but I can't believe they have suddenly become valueless. It was always unlikely that the loan creditors would get paid, wasn't it? If AF and JW didn't write the loans off when they were still big noises at the club, why would they give their money away now?

Me neither Den as I wasn't there either -except to say from the comments on here that seem to indicate that we were not at our best but played ok at times.

Your comments regarding "your well informed source" seem to echo my comments made earlier in the week, imparted from "my local media source" that AB & others wanted the PdC spending spree to stop and that Arbib & AB were perhaps looking to recoup their investments in other words - payback time chaps!

Southside -you again (I think?) have
made reference to the dearth of unemployed managers out there but have failed to suggest a name or two?. As I've said before and I'll say again I don't see any obvious choices to replace Paolo if he decides to go and if he does then for me any chance of achieving back to back promotions goes with him because of the lack of anyone with the same desire and passion to succeed just isn't in their psyche..or at least I don't think it is.

Chickengeorge wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote: Interesting that the new chairman says one of the aims is to get the loans to the club written off, so that the company becomes more attractive to potential investors. He explains that Sir Martyn Arbib is prepared to write off his loan and he is hoping that AF and JW will do the same. Is it really likely that two people who have been pushed aside will say "Yes, fine, I don't want my money back." It's all very well Sir William dismissing the loans as having very little value. Surely a loan is worth whatever amount it is? I can't see the fact that there's currently little chance of the club being able to repay the debt persuading our two former chairmen to waive their right to repayment. But again I could be missing something.

Den, I heard about the loans from the guy that sits next to me. Perhaps someone can help here ! Are our debts taken into account regarding the embargo ? By writing off the loans will the embargo be lifted ? COYMR

Nice that you live in a decent town. League is not too important, local pride is: 4-0 to the Oxford boys!

Hiram.K.Hackenbacker wrote:
One of the reasons why Paulo did not do a post-match Press Conference was because a certain sport-orientated tv channel wanted to raise the issue of racism, with it being 'Kick It Out' day today, having had Serbia & Lazio in the news this week, plus the change of Chairman and many of the Press wouldn't be interested in the actual game v Scunny, so Paulo felt it not appropriate to appear. This came from a very reliable source 'in the camp'.

Jibberjab wrote:

Hiram.K.Hackenbacker wrote:
One of the reasons why Paulo did not do a post-match Press Conference was because a certain sport-orientated tv channel wanted to raise the issue of racism, with it being 'Kick It Out' day today, having had Serbia & Lazio in the news this week, plus the change of Chairman and many of the Press wouldn't be interested in the actual game v Scunny, so Paulo felt it not appropriate to appear. This came from a very reliable source 'in the camp'.

PDC did not not do an interview in case they may asked him to condemn racism in football?? Lay off the funny fags.....

mikek wrote:
Blimey the Pox won 5-0 today not a good Saturday yet again. Defo 3 points dropped with Ward, Roberts, and Rooney guilty of missing easy chances that would have won us the game against a very poor side. Is there another Charlie Austin out there I wonder. Just hope the injuries are not going to keep piling up and certainly need the embargo lifting.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
VERY disappointing first half from a cutting edge point of view with far too many passes going astray again along with the ball in the air for too long again and where the ball is pumped forward no-one is following it up to pick up the 2nd phase off the clearing headers.
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I know I'm no professional footballer but Collins and Benson just doesn't work for me up front, surely you want a battler like Rooney with either Benson or Collins feeding off his efforts.
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I believe we have the players with the skills and given the right motivation and direction they can do a job for us in this league.
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Ritchie had 2 or 3 players on him again yesterday so that cuts off the supply line as the interchange between him and Thompson isn't working yet...why not surprise the opposition and play Ritchie on the left for one game using his natural foot for crosses from the bye-line or swap him regularly throughout the game with Roberts...just to be less predictable.
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When we kept the ball on the ground we looked good in the second half and at the end of the day we were still the better team despite being down to 10 men. I didn't clearly see Flint's foul for the 2nd yellow but the hunch was it was right but the first yellow was a bit soft.
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Disappointing at home again but keep winning away and we'll have time to turn it round.
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Paolo - Talk to the new man on the basis that you will not have a huge influx of funds and decide whether you stay or go on that basis and do it quickly please!....we'll be sorry to see you go and fully understand the anger and frustration with the board but they are the money men and you've had a good budget.
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We'll survive as you have brought good quality in and any other manager worth their salt could but it will be a far duller place off the pitch.
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Am I correct in thinking that any manager wages / costs are not covered by the embargo?...so we could attract some good candidates and afford them?

wurzelday wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
VERY disappointing first half from a cutting edge point of view with far too many passes going astray again along with the ball in the air for too long again and where the ball is pumped forward no-one is following it up to pick up the 2nd phase off the clearing headers.
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I know I'm no professional footballer but Collins and Benson just doesn't work for me up front, surely you want a battler like Rooney with either Benson or Collins feeding off his efforts.
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I believe we have the players with the skills and given the right motivation and direction they can do a job for us in this league.
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Ritchie had 2 or 3 players on him again yesterday so that cuts off the supply line as the interchange between him and Thompson isn't working yet...why not surprise the opposition and play Ritchie on the left for one game using his natural foot for crosses from the bye-line or swap him regularly throughout the game with Roberts...just to be less predictable.
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When we kept the ball on the ground we looked good in the second half and at the end of the day we were still the better team despite being down to 10 men. I didn't clearly see Flint's foul for the 2nd yellow but the hunch was it was right but the first yellow was a bit soft.
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Disappointing at home again but keep winning away and we'll have time to turn it round.
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Paolo - Talk to the new man on the basis that you will not have a huge influx of funds and decide whether you stay or go on that basis and do it quickly please!....we'll be sorry to see you go and fully understand the anger and frustration with the board but they are the money men and you've had a good budget.
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We'll survive as you have brought good quality in and any other manager worth their salt could but it will be a far duller place off the pitch.
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Am I correct in thinking that any manager wages / costs are not covered by the embargo?...so we could attract some good candidates and afford them?

Hello and good morning Sap, how are you? Its all quite interesting at the mo and not so much on it. I didnt go yesterday, but i noticed from the FLShow highlights that even the camera didnt show any highlights of paolo. Which i thought appeared strange (Has Sir bill infringed an embargo on any audio and visual of our great one?), was he the usual character we know and love or was he more reserved?
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I have to agree with Wiz though, that i dont believe paolo will go yet. He is a fighter, and i truly believe that he wouldnt go against his own principles.
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Having said that, if paolo is to stay longer term, he has to face facts that if he wants his squad to learn by his ways, he must be willing to be taught by his own ways. I.e, practice what you preach. Didnt paolo once say 'you dont have to love me, but follow me and we will win'. This is a great quote, and he should be listening to his own advice with respect to how his relationship with Sir bill is to pan out. He may not like him, but if they think in the same way (on reflection) then together, they and us, can win.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

wurzelday wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
VERY disappointing first half from a cutting edge point of view with far too many passes going astray again along with the ball in the air for too long again and where the ball is pumped forward no-one is following it up to pick up the 2nd phase off the clearing headers.
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I know I'm no professional footballer but Collins and Benson just doesn't work for me up front, surely you want a battler like Rooney with either Benson or Collins feeding off his efforts.
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I believe we have the players with the skills and given the right motivation and direction they can do a job for us in this league.
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Ritchie had 2 or 3 players on him again yesterday so that cuts off the supply line as the interchange between him and Thompson isn't working yet...why not surprise the opposition and play Ritchie on the left for one game using his natural foot for crosses from the bye-line or swap him regularly throughout the game with Roberts...just to be less predictable.
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When we kept the ball on the ground we looked good in the second half and at the end of the day we were still the better team despite being down to 10 men. I didn't clearly see Flint's foul for the 2nd yellow but the hunch was it was right but the first yellow was a bit soft.
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Disappointing at home again but keep winning away and we'll have time to turn it round.
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Paolo - Talk to the new man on the basis that you will not have a huge influx of funds and decide whether you stay or go on that basis and do it quickly please!....we'll be sorry to see you go and fully understand the anger and frustration with the board but they are the money men and you've had a good budget.
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We'll survive as you have brought good quality in and any other manager worth their salt could but it will be a far duller place off the pitch.
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Am I correct in thinking that any manager wages / costs are not covered by the embargo?...so we could attract some good candidates and afford them?

Hello and good morning Sap, how are you? Its all quite interesting at the mo and not so much on it. I didnt go yesterday, but i noticed from the FLShow highlights that even the camera didnt show any highlights of paolo. Which i thought appeared strange (Has Sir bill infringed an embargo on any audio and visual of our great one?), was he the usual character we know and love or was he more reserved?
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I have to agree with Wiz though, that i dont believe paolo will go yet. He is a fighter, and i truly believe that he wouldnt go against his own principles.
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Having said that, if paolo is to stay longer term, he has to face facts that if he wants his squad to learn by his ways, he must be willing to be taught by his own ways. I.e, practice what you preach. Didnt paolo once say 'you dont have to love me, but follow me and we will win'. This is a great quote, and he should be listening to his own advice with respect to how his relationship with Sir bill is to pan out. He may not like him, but if they think in the same way (on reflection) then together, they and us, can win.

Hey there Wurzel - You ok matey?
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Not seen you on here for a while now and no predictions hence got a bit concerned for you - hope all is ok mate.
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I think Paolo has a lot to contemplate at the moment and much to think about if he is to continue...no doubt we'll hear a clearer statement from him soon. He'd decided not to give an interview from before the game so was that the racism element to proceedings or the board level - I'm confident it was the latter and he didn't want to say anything silly in any emotional post-match state.
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Embargo!?...given Austin's 16th goal I think we'll be able to forecast some unplanned revenue in for January onwards as I'm sure he'll be moving on up to someone like Reading, Stoke, west Ham or so on....mind you he's probably got a 5million price tag on him now - anyone know what add ons we got added to his sale?

Jibberjab wrote:

Hiram.K.Hackenbacker wrote:
One of the reasons why Paulo did not do a post-match Press Conference was because a certain sport-orientated tv channel wanted to raise the issue of racism, with it being 'Kick It Out' day today, having had Serbia & Lazio in the news this week, plus the change of Chairman and many of the Press wouldn't be interested in the actual game v Scunny, so Paulo felt it not appropriate to appear. This came from a very reliable source 'in the camp'.

PDC did not not do an interview in case they may asked him to condemn racism in football?? Lay off the funny fags.....

the wizard wrote:

hornet wrote: It's true wray could not stand up to Paolo the board are unhappy not so much with the embargo but more that the manager made it public . The problem is that last year Paolo fielded 38 players the club payed the highest amount of money 500k in agent fees . This year they have already spent over the budget in players ( hence the embargo) and Paolos agent phill spence agrees all the deals in and out of the county ground they now have had enough of the managers constant demands

Now perhaps some can see why Fitton was so loathe to deal with agents.

mallorca wrote:
First result today, was ok for 10 men. as for results recently has I feel good as we are up a division. Listened to the new chairman he must be given a chance. As for Pdc he I must say has good points but a few bad ones. I feel the departure of JW may have been to how much money Pdc has wasted. Granted he has passion and again if he was promised funding over the budget this should be honoured. However he may walk away, just hope we get someone like Steve Cotrill as for sure we need stability,as it all appears a bit iffy right now

smirg kcab wrote:
only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins
onwards and downwards

avo wrote:
Someone mentioned the atmosphere being strange yesterday?
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Nothing strange about it for me, it was sh1te, it's nearly always sh1te, with our premiership fans only ever getting vocal for the big games.
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it's high time all those that seem to find no other enjoyment in a Saturday afternoon at the county Ground other than to moan about and berate everything they see, to put their money where their mouths are and start vocally backing the team for a change.
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The atmosphere at the CG these days is woeful compared to the days of old, and nobody can argue the fact that it's due to the standard of football can they eh? It's always been in an around the level it's at now, with 1 exceptional dip into the premier league, yet ever since that unremarkable season in the top flight, the atmosphere at home games has been dreadful 95% of the time. Why's that then?

smirg kcab wrote:
one winner yet again on saturday phil spencer.
say time and time again that ward and rooney are absolute pants, is it only me?
onwards and 3 steps back

mikek wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: one winner yet again on saturday phil spencer. say time and time again that ward and rooney are absolute pants, is it only me? onwards and 3 steps back

How are you Grim hope your keeping well bud.I'm with you Grim on that one thought Rooney is a terrible striker and have not seen anything from him to cause a ripple of excitement. He has cost us 4 points in the last two home games with his lack of finishing. His control is shocking and does he know where the goal is errr a big fat NO. Ward is too slow and just a plodder.

Chish and Fips wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins onwards and downwards

Wot about Ipswich - Burnley - QPR any more you'd like to throw in the hat as teams likely to be interested in some unnecessary post in my opinion.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins onwards and downwards

Wot about Ipswich - Burnley - QPR any more you'd like to throw in the hat as teams likely to be interested in some unnecessary post in my opinion.

What chairman in a higher level would risk PDC... NONE,,
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jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins onwards and downwards

Wot about Ipswich - Burnley - QPR any more you'd like to throw in the hat as teams likely to be interested in some unnecessary post in my opinion.

What chairman in a higher level would risk PDC... NONE,, .

David Bernstien

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins onwards and downwards

Wot about Ipswich - Burnley - QPR any more you'd like to throw in the hat as teams likely to be interested in some unnecessary post in my opinion.

What chairman in a higher level would risk PDC... NONE,, .

David Bernstien

Say no more..

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: only one game left now fpr nigle adkins at southampton untill di canio takes the reins onwards and downwards

Wot about Ipswich - Burnley - QPR any more you'd like to throw in the hat as teams likely to be interested in some unnecessary post in my opinion.

What chairman in a higher level would risk PDC... NONE,, .

David Bernstien

Say no more..

Hi Darren got it then ,ill get me coat.I see steve is ill then.

ciclosporindorset wrote:
The four players listed below have disappointed many. they are proven at championship level or thereabouts - PDC must take responsibility for their performances
Navarro, Ward, Bessone, ARooney,

smirg kcab wrote:

mikek wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: one winner yet again on saturday phil spencer. say time and time again that ward and rooney are absolute pants, is it only me? onwards and 3 steps back

How are you Grim hope your keeping well bud.I'm with you Grim on that one thought Rooney is a terrible striker and have not seen anything from him to cause a ripple of excitement. He has cost us 4 points in the last two home games with his lack of finishing. His control is shocking and does he know where the goal is errr a big fat NO. Ward is too slow and just a plodder.

Yeah fine mike thanks.
God this season is getting stranger by the day. I'm finding paolo needs to give us more idea on who wanted these players here after all he signed them then he says they are not good enough. Perhaps jake jervis was the man he should have signed, even tho I wasn't a great lover of him.
Still wont stop me from going to Stevenage and Walsall tho lol.
Onwards and upwards I hope

southside7 wrote:

Malkym wrote:

Oi Den! wrote: No comment on the game from me as I couldn't get there. Left home this morning armed with season ticket and scarf thinking I would at least make 2nd half but no joy. . LR, I understand all that about the loans but I can't believe they have suddenly become valueless. It was always unlikely that the loan creditors would get paid, wasn't it? If AF and JW didn't write the loans off when they were still big noises at the club, why would they give their money away now?

Me neither Den as I wasn't there either -except to say from the comments on here that seem to indicate that we were not at our best but played ok at times. Your comments regarding "your well informed source" seem to echo my comments made earlier in the week, imparted from "my local media source" that AB & others wanted the PdC spending spree to stop and that Arbib & AB were perhaps looking to recoup their investments in other words - payback time chaps! Southside -you again (I think?) have made reference to the dearth of unemployed managers out there but have failed to suggest a name or two?. As I've said before and I'll say again I don't see any obvious choices to replace Paolo if he decides to go and if he does then for me any chance of achieving back to back promotions goes with him because of the lack of anyone with the same desire and passion to succeed just isn't in their psyche..or at least I don't think it is.

Yes, you think right. Curbishley, Hoddle, Burley, Coppell, Coyle, Megson, Solskjaer. Passion is what we need I agree, but what about team spirit and forging a family like togetherness that Paolo just can't do with his throwback, militaryistic, hammer every f*cking mistake going '30's style maniac approach each week.....fun whilst it lasted (not for Phil Smith)

Haydonender wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:
The four players listed below have disappointed many. they are proven at championship level or thereabouts - PDC must take responsibility for their performances
Navarro, Ward, Bessone, ARooney,

1. If they were proven at a higher level then they wouldn't be playing for a league 1 club, they would still be playing at that level

2. PDC must take responsibility for EVERY players performances - which incidentally have got a newly promoted team to 6th without yet hitting the form we know they are capable of

Oi Den! wrote:
Malk, while I agree that none of those names get the blood stirred, I can't agree that PDC's departure would see the end of the promotion dream for this season. Why should it? We are still well placed in the table, Sir William has been promised that the owners' ambitions remain the same and we have a squad that must be the envy of many clubs at our level (despite the fact that there are some very dubious acquisitions in it). . Here's a novel thought - what about the possibility that we might actually become more consistent on the pitch and more stable behind the scenes if PDC were to leave? I still don't want him to go. What I want is for him to calm down a bit, manage a bit more and whinge a bit less, as sadgit and others have put it so well already. But if he does go I think any half decent new manager would have every chance of getting us promoted. . Let's hope we move onwards and upwards with PDC. But let's not fear that our world will collapse without him. We are Swindon. We're bigger and stronger than that.

Oxon-Red wrote:
Why the **** is everyone talking of a replacement for PDC ?

Does everyone want him to go ?

Find it very depressing that people can write him off the way they are doing. I have been a Town fan for many years and over the last decade+ we have constantly changed the bloke in charge. Where has it got us ?

It may ultimately be his decision but for the time being I for one want him to stay. He may be unorthodox but he put an end to the Dressing room problems many complained about under Wilson.

He has criticised (rightly in most cases) players when they have not performed but he has also praised the players when they have done well. Many come on these boards and slam players after a single performance (Bostock at Wembley was carp to many) but that's okay. Is it ?

We are well placed in the league, still in two cups and have fantastic backers. Please let's get behind Black, Paolo and the team and see what they can do.

COYMR

the wizard wrote:
As for a replacement - we'd probably go for a complete opposite type of character, but more experienced. Tony Mowbray.

Malkym wrote:
Oxon granted I have spoken about replacing PdC - I certainly don't want him to go but with the recent back room changes I feel his position is under some uncertainty -not because he will be sacked but because I fear he may not be able to manage as a manager in the way that he feels he needs to manage. I sincerely hope I'm wrong there. He made a commitment to the club along with JWray to attempt to put the club into the championship -the 3yr plan. But does he now think that, that that goal has now been made more difficult by potential restrictions on bringing in fresh blood to boost that ambition? If you've read my posts on this thread you'll see I'm not impressed with any possible replacement suggestions and for me if and I hope when Paolo is still here after Sheff Utd game I'll feel much more comfortable.

Malkym wrote:

the wizard wrote:
As for a replacement - we'd probably go for a complete opposite type of character, but more experienced. Tony Mowbray.

I sincerely hope that name was given "tongue in cheek":)

old town robin wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: Why the **** is everyone talking of a replacement for PDC ? Does everyone want him to go ? Find it very depressing that people can write him off the way they are doing. I have been a Town fan for many years and over the last decade+ we have constantly changed the bloke in charge. Where has it got us ? It may ultimately be his decision but for the time being I for one want him to stay. He may be unorthodox but he put an end to the Dressing room problems many complained about under Wilson. He has criticised (rightly in most cases) players when they have not performed but he has also praised the players when they have done well. Many come on these boards and slam players after a single performance (Bostock at Wembley was carp to many) but that's okay. Is it ? We are well placed in the league, still in two cups and have fantastic backers. Please let's get behind Black, Paolo and the team and see what they can do. COYMR

Ox-red, don't include me in your "everyone" paraphase, in fact I would be very disappointed and surprised if the wishes of the posters you are refering to were to come true. To be honest too many old fish wives on here speculating without a ground of proof that Paolo has any intention of jumping ship.

Malkym wrote:

the wizard wrote:
As for a replacement - we'd probably go for a complete opposite type of character, but more experienced. Tony Mowbray.

I sincerely hope that name was given "tongue in cheek":)

Oxon-Red wrote:
Why the **** is everyone talking of a replacement for PDC ?

Does everyone want him to go ?

Find it very depressing that people can write him off the way they are doing. I have been a Town fan for many years and over the last decade+ we have constantly changed the bloke in charge. Where has it got us ?

It may ultimately be his decision but for the time being I for one want him to stay. He may be unorthodox but he put an end to the Dressing room problems many complained about under Wilson.

He has criticised (rightly in most cases) players when they have not performed but he has also praised the players when they have done well. Many come on these boards and slam players after a single performance (Bostock at Wembley was carp to many) but that's okay. Is it ?

We are well placed in the league, still in two cups and have fantastic backers. Please let's get behind Black, Paolo and the team and see what they can do.

COYMR

Oi Den! wrote:
Malk, while I agree that none of those names get the blood stirred, I can't agree that PDC's departure would see the end of the promotion dream for this season. Why should it? We are still well placed in the table, Sir William has been promised that the owners' ambitions remain the same and we have a squad that must be the envy of many clubs at our level (despite the fact that there are some very dubious acquisitions in it). . Here's a novel thought - what about the possibility that we might actually become more consistent on the pitch and more stable behind the scenes if PDC were to leave? I still don't want him to go. What I want is for him to calm down a bit, manage a bit more and whinge a bit less, as sadgit and others have put it so well already. But if he does go I think any half decent new manager would have every chance of getting us promoted. . Let's hope we move onwards and upwards with PDC. But let's not fear that our world will collapse without him. We are Swindon. We're bigger and stronger than that.

Oi Den! wrote:
OTR, that PDC is an old fish wife isn't he - going around suggesting that he might jump ship when there is no proof that he has any intention of doing it. He needs to give himself a good boll0cking, preferably in public in a radio interview, and tell himself to stop telling everyone that he might do something that nobody has any proof that he has any intention of doing. Bloody rumour monger.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: Why the **** is everyone talking of a replacement for PDC ? Does everyone want him to go ? Find it very depressing that people can write him off the way they are doing. I have been a Town fan for many years and over the last decade+ we have constantly changed the bloke in charge. Where has it got us ? It may ultimately be his decision but for the time being I for one want him to stay. He may be unorthodox but he put an end to the Dressing room problems many complained about under Wilson. He has criticised (rightly in most cases) players when they have not performed but he has also praised the players when they have done well. Many come on these boards and slam players after a single performance (Bostock at Wembley was carp to many) but that's okay. Is it ? We are well placed in the league, still in two cups and have fantastic backers. Please let's get behind Black, Paolo and the team and see what they can do. COYMR

Oxon- "Bostock at Wembley was carp to many" is that why he looked like a fish out of water :O)

southside7 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote: OTR, that PDC is an old fish wife isn't he - going around suggesting that he might jump ship when there is no proof that he has any intention of doing it. He needs to give himself a good boll0cking, preferably in public in a radio interview, and tell himself to stop telling everyone that he might do something that nobody has any proof that he has any intention of doing. Bloody rumour monger.

Yeah, that bl00dy Paolo always speculating and stirring when he doesn't know what's going on like all the posters on here. Coming out with all these negative comments when he should be getting behind the club and all that....... Oxon, as for all of us getting behind Black and PdC, yes you may be onto something there but is Black behind PdC even? Paolo shuts his mouth, please stay, carry on the same way, please go. Has taken 18 months of loving him one minute and hating him the next but even the 'build a statue of him' talk on here is fizzling out week on week. Great discussion on here tonight though chaps.

Oxon-Red wrote:
Why the **** is everyone talking of a replacement for PDC ?

Does everyone want him to go ?

Find it very depressing that people can write him off the way they are doing. I have been a Town fan for many years and over the last decade+ we have constantly changed the bloke in charge. Where has it got us ?

It may ultimately be his decision but for the time being I for one want him to stay. He may be unorthodox but he put an end to the Dressing room problems many complained about under Wilson.

He has criticised (rightly in most cases) players when they have not performed but he has also praised the players when they have done well. Many come on these boards and slam players after a single performance (Bostock at Wembley was carp to many) but that's okay. Is it ?

We are well placed in the league, still in two cups and have fantastic backers. Please let's get behind Black, Paolo and the team and see what they can do.

COYMR