MATCHDAY LIVE: Swindon Town v Coventry City (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

Lets see a Bullet Proof Performance today and a solid home win so we can put this last week behind us. That's what we all want.

Well the sun's out here anyway! Good sign? Let's hope so...

Bostock gets a game. This is what we have been waiting for. Go John Go, go get 'em, have a great game for us, we are all behind you.

Don't assume all life long Swindon supporters are behind this manager and his team at the present time

In fact there goes number 2 for Coventry - lets see you BUY your way out of this one pal

Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

Whats going on ?

haha Don you must feel like a real w@nker now...?

ditto that tuucker lol

i will take 2-2 after being 0-2 with 15 to go, but 2 set pieces cost us (again), strange town have not had a penalty since the first game of the season, we never have been a club given lots of spot kicks, good to see oldham snatching a point at shefield united at the death, Navarro injury sounds bad

well done lads, good point that after 2-0 down ps don u r a preeek

2 down to draw is excellent and could be a vital point come May
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Though poor result as we were much better - did they create anything in open play? Just two sloppy defended set pieces
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Officials woeful - including booking the wrong player! How do you get a black man in black boots confused with a white one in yellow boots????
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Hope this sparks us due to the fight back and we take it out on Scunny - as we showed from the injury to the 2nd goal - if we play people can't live with us

London Red wrote:
2 down to draw is excellent and could be a vital point come May . Though poor result as we were much better - did they create anything in open play? Just two sloppy defended set pieces . Officials woeful - including booking the wrong player! How do you get a black man in black boots confused with a white one in yellow boots???? . Hope this sparks us due to the fight back and we take it out on Scunny - as we showed from the injury to the 2nd goal - if we play people can't live with us

HA HA WE WERE MUCH BETTER...
Now i know your a simple twatt

don down the left wing rogers wrote:
In fact there goes number 2 for Coventry - lets see you BUY your way out of this one pal

Idiot!not fit to use Don Rogers name!never judge a game until it's over!we played very well in the second half and should have WON!well done Paolo for changing things at half-time,we had enough chances to win by at least two!still need a striker chaps!who can bang in a few of those late chances,also poor defending for their two goals,but a good point in the end!!!!!!!!!!!!

When PDC comes out with stuff like "Benson is not a top class 1st divn player" the only affect it has is to potentially embarass the player and the board. I wish he would just say nothing quite frankly. It just hurts! make feedback specific or shut up! Players dont want vague critique. Well done on the come back though and lets hope Navarro plays soon!

Is it me or do I sense a little sexual tension between LR and Darren?

“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

London Red wrote:
2 down to draw is excellent and could be a vital point come May . Though poor result as we were much better - did they create anything in open play? Just two sloppy defended set pieces . Officials woeful - including booking the wrong player! How do you get a black man in black boots confused with a white one in yellow boots???? . Hope this sparks us due to the fight back and we take it out on Scunny - as we showed from the injury to the 2nd goal - if we play people can't live with us

HA HA WE WERE MUCH BETTER...
Now i know your a simple twatt

We were poor for most of the game - no ideas and no desire. First ten minutes and last twenty we did well, why we can't play like that for 90 I'll never know. Coventry were shocking though, took their two chances well but played in a very negative manner, some of the diving and time wasting was embarassing. Ref also diabolical.

Hve to agree with LR on the official and Coventry but we were poor for most of the game, can't see it any other way.

Me and PdC both simple then?
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Think it's the other way round - actually I don't think....…

Oldhamred wrote:
Is it me or do I sense a little sexual tension between LR and Darren?

Ha ha A LOT OF SEXUAL TENSiON...
Just love winding people up who think that they know everything about STFC.

Agree Who am I - striker has to be top priority - Jake Cassidy please
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Think Collins will go on a run now though so hopefully he will null that need a bit until Jan anyway
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Wouldn't write Bostock off completely yet - certainly not ready in that role and unlike Port Vale where he was brilliant the step up has shown he is not ready
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If PdC can develop him like he has a few others he could be excellent has he does have the qualities required
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But it does show PdC knows best and that's why he has not featured as much before

Circlo where does he say that about Benson?
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He just said we need a top quality striker in general - which I think most would agree with
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Tranmere are top as Cassidy is in or very near double figures
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If we had him finishing off our moves we would be top as we create so many!

London Red wrote:
Agree Who am I - striker has to be top priority - Jake Cassidy please
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Think Collins will go on a run now though so hopefully he will null that need a bit until Jan anyway
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Wouldn't write Bostock off completely yet - certainly not ready in that role and unlike Port Vale where he was brilliant the step up has shown he is not ready
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If PdC can develop him like he has a few others he could be excellent has he does have the qualities required
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But it does show PdC knows best and that's why he has not featured as much before

spot on

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Due to last minute circumstances I was unable to go today. Yesterday I thought from reading the Adver too much respect was being shown and suspected we may not do as well as we would have liked. It seems I was sadly near the mark despite wishing for a narrow win at the least.

My conclusion of all the posturing over the last week around the embargo, injuries, recent results is, we won't start to do anywhere enough until we have the front line sorted out, and that probably won't occur until the January window if we are lucky.

Both Collins and Williams have been wasteful since they have been here while Bensons legs are going to let him down a bit now, big shame, as I think he still has much to offer. Somehow our strikers need to sharpen up. Feel sorry for Bostock if he had a bad game, he deserves probably better. Coventry are a big club with some well talented players, I expect them to do well and be either at the top or there abouts come end of the season.

Bostok got stick for no reason. Created a few chances and did well for a player not getting regular game time. Can't judge on the odd game. Well you can but that makes you a clown. If he had been the most forward player in a diamond then I believe this would have suited him and us more. Roberts did well in the position and Navarro did well in front of the defence. Paolo's change of shape worked however his antics are sadly the same. Humiliating Benson post game served no purpose. Kicking the dug out. Screaming up towards the board members. I love a bit of passion but this is an embarrassment for the club. Paolo has a great win record as he pointed out earlier in the week. Unfortunately his man management methods and treatment of players is not professional. Last season he spoke of Benson's quality and ability to play up higher divisions for a few seasons to come. Anyway, Leon Clarke returns soon. Should spice it up a bit.

9,800
Wow

Also big up Sam's match day articles. With all the comments and build up it helps set the scene by recapping on the week and the opponents. Much improved from a standard pre game team sheet and post match reaction.

thought Coventry were a pretty decent side and they will be there or there abouts at the end of the season. First half we started well but went to pieces after the 1st goal. Midfield could never get hold of the ball, and Bostock was very disappointing after all the build up. Poor in the air and too easily pushed of the ball, I can now see why PdC hasn't played him much.
2nd half we tightened up but must admit I couldn't see how we would get back into the game, but fair play Paolo, the 3 changes changed the game and at the end I felt we could have deservedly won it. Very good game though and great atmosphere, but if we are really going to push for promotion we need a killer instinct in from of goal.

Great comeback today after we looked almost dead and buried but taking Ritchie off who really was marked out of the game today seemed to give us other options. Even though they lost their left back we seemed to gather some momentum and certainly finished strongly in the last 20 minutes and could and should have won it. Rooney surely should have done better with his header but what a topsy turvey game. Fabulous goals from Roberts and especially Collins and that should do him the world of good. Coventry were a very good side and looked like a championship team but in the end they were hanging by a thread. Well done Swindon but wish you had started the game as you finished. Flint MOM today easily.

Did feel like a win leaving the ground. Got back to te car part-way trough the tirade by Paolo towards theboard. Don't really understand why JWray is "the best Chairman a manager could have" and then undermine him by what he says. Surely the wage cap is externally imposed. Moving players on loan to free up salary depends on someone wanting them. On the game it was interesting to see plan B in operation. It worked because it gave us more in midfield and they took time to readust to us. Well done for sticking to the challenge but I have to agree we must put more chances away.

Shows PdC does have a plan B after all considering he change shape and brought us back into it!
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Got to admit the hoofs up after going back to Wes did annoy me as when we got it down we carved them open and made at least 6 or 7 opportunities that way
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Ritchie's header, Bosock had 2, Ferry's header an Roberts in the first half alone
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2012 don't think any are writing Bostock off - or not many anyway
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But you have to say after all the clamour for PdC to put this side exact side out - it didn't work and Bostock did not excel in that role
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Maybe as you say he would work in the diamond but not in a 4411 just as PdC said - he's not ready
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We have plenty of time for him to keep learning that and the head of the diamon role and I'm sure he will still get games and give a better account of himself
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Striker on a perm in Jan has to be worked on now so we get him nice and early
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Jake Cassidy on a Cox style deal may tempt Wolves as he is not going to play at the top of the Championship or in the Premiwrship yet - so let him develop with us and reap the benefits later!

Was just thinking - I hope PdC rant at Wes worked otherwise we may need a new manager if Ritchie has gone in wielding a gun at him!

9800 should do the budget the world of good - could also allow them to push up the forecast for Sheff U as they will bring more - plus it could lead to the average for the remained going up too and push us back under the 65% mark?

stfc2012 wrote:
Bostok got stick for no reason. Created a few chances and did well for a player not getting regular game time. Can't judge on the odd game. Well you can but that makes you a clown. If he had been the most forward player in a diamond then I believe this would have suited him and us more. Roberts did well in the position and Navarro did well in front of the defence. Paolo's change of shape worked however his antics are sadly the same. Humiliating Benson post game served no purpose. Kicking the dug out. Screaming up towards the board members. I love a bit of passion but this is an embarrassment for the club. Paolo has a great win record as he pointed out earlier in the week. Unfortunately his man management methods and treatment of players is not professional. Last season he spoke of Benson's quality and ability to play up higher divisions for a few seasons to come. Anyway, Leon Clarke returns soon. Should spice it up a bit.

He was having a pop at some st fans who were having a go at him for taking Matt off.

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

Seemed to me we were varying it a bit today, some long ball which of course didn't pay off as we hardly won a thing first half, plus some good wing play down both sides.

Coventry didn't create much although looked a competent, physical side. Most of their presmably new loan players (as they all had numbers 30+) looked very good and certainly bossed the midfield.

Fair play to Paolo for giving Bostock a go, something the majority including myself have been clamouring for. He showed glimpses I thought but looked rusty and not suited to the long balls fed to him athough he did spray it around quite nicely when he dropped deep. He was right to sub him off though I felt.

I didn't hear the bit of the interview with the Benson comments but I didn't think he had his best game. In reality he is probably fair to say he is not a top League 1 forward, but he should not have said that in public imo. But Benno did deserve a chance at the start of the season and will still score a few in L1.

What's clear after 10 games or so is that there is a big gulf between League 1 and League 2, and very few teams other than Tranmere are showing consistency. We can compete with any on our day but when we have an off day or go to sleep at set pieces like today then we get punished whereas last year we didn't.

Collins when he performs like that looks a very good player, but we need to see it a bit more often. Rooney and Collins up front next game please.

Finally credt to Paolo for a change of tactics mid-game. I've been critical of there only being a plan A or a plan B prepared pre-game, and just changing personnel not the system mid-game, but today he was bold and took off the ineffectve Ritchie and moved Roberts behind the front two, and it worked brilliantly. I thought when he did here we go more long ball, but we showed the passion and desire to scrap and fight for the second and third balls and Coventry fell apart a bit. A step forward for Paolo there and good to see.

don down the left wing rogers wrote:
Don't assume all life long Swindon supporters are behind this manager and his team at the present time

Not you obviously! Hope your eating humble pie!

Davidsyrett wrote:
thought Coventry were a pretty decent side and they will be there or there abouts at the end of the season. First half we started well but went to pieces after the 1st goal. Midfield could never get hold of the ball, and Bostock was very disappointing after all the build up. Poor in the air and too easily pushed of the ball, I can now see why PdC hasn't played him much.
2nd half we tightened up but must admit I couldn't see how we would get back into the game, but fair play Paolo, the 3 changes changed the game and at the end I felt we could have deservedly won it. Very good game though and great atmosphere, but if we are really going to push for promotion we need a killer instinct in from of goal.

Spot on!

YateleyRed wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

How can it be the managers fault Nick! I bet you Paulo would not have missed the chances our boys had today.

bongiaz wrote:

Davidsyrett wrote:
thought Coventry were a pretty decent side and they will be there or there abouts at the end of the season. First half we started well but went to pieces after the 1st goal. Midfield could never get hold of the ball, and Bostock was very disappointing after all the build up. Poor in the air and too easily pushed of the ball, I can now see why PdC hasn't played him much.
2nd half we tightened up but must admit I couldn't see how we would get back into the game, but fair play Paolo, the 3 changes changed the game and at the end I felt we could have deservedly won it. Very good game though and great atmosphere, but if we are really going to push for promotion we need a killer instinct in from of goal.

Spot on!

Second that, they had three shots on target and two goals, we had seven for the same return. Defensively vulnerable from set pieces and not clinical enough in front of goal at the moment.

However... Not playing to our best and still in the top six - has to be a good thing. It will take us time to get into full flow, and at least we're still in the mix whilst we're sorting ourselves out. Need to tighten up though, especially at home, as we gave the ball away cheaply at times, Coventry getting a lot of possession as a result.

Some positives to take from today, started brightly, created good chances, but some players possibly lacking a bit of confidence on the ball. Plenty of room for improvement, and plenty of the season still to play. Could be worse.

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
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Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

London Red wrote:
9800 should do the budget the world of good - could also allow them to push up the forecast for Sheff U as they will bring more - plus it could lead to the average for the remained going up too and push us back under the 65% mark?

A bit optimistic LR. It's not just about a few ££ extra in the coffers, we have to get some way below the 65% before an extra wage can be added and still keep us under the threshold. Off loading a few players an loan and getting clubs to pay their wages is about the only way we can bring in new players unless we can beat Villa and get a good draw in the cup (away at a prem. club for example or a sell out home game).

So far I think about 7K tickets have been sold for Villa (inc. away fans) so would be surprised if we get a full house even for that.

bongiaz wrote:
I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

Wasn't there so can't comment on those points in particular, but I did read some where we are the fifth most stressful club to follow, can't imagine why, lol.

The worrying thing is, what happens to these people when the Town End gets pulled down and replaced. During the interim where do they go, on the bank ?

Received some stick on here re my views that Bostock tecnically great but too lightweight. Well whilst I hate to say it, fully justifed on toadys perfromance... That said no way did he deserve Boos! Just wish mindless prixs like that stay away from the CG. May as well just F off into the away end!
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Great comeback today. I said our fitness would kick in at 80 mins and sure it did, another 5 mins with the gun of Navarone on the pitch and it would have been as historic and the Sheff Wed 3-2 come back...

the wizard wrote:

bongiaz wrote:
I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

Wasn't there so can't comment on those points in particular, but I did read some where we are the fifth most stressful club to follow, can't imagine why, lol.

The worrying thing is, what happens to these people when the Town End gets pulled down and replaced. During the interim where do they go, on the bank ?

I can believe the stressful part..really dont know what we are going to get with our boys and PDC from week to week..thats all part of the fun at the moment. I suspect those morons who call themselves supporters will stay in the County Ground pub! (Must reiterate its a small minority but one person booing can be heard amongst 100 people cheering and not good for moral and/or confidence...I suspect if my manager booed everytime I made a mistake at work I'd be a nervous wreck!)

Stratton Red wrote:
Received some stick on here re my views that Bostock tecnically great but too lightweight. Well whilst I hate to say it, fully justifed on toadys perfromance... That said no way did he deserve Boos! Just wish mindless prixs like that stay away from the CG. May as well just F off into the away end!
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Great comeback today. I said our fitness would kick in at 80 mins and sure it did, another 5 mins with the gun of Navarone on the pitch and it would have been as historic and the Sheff Wed 3-2 come back...

Yes, I thought Bostock's performance today was a mixture of the brilliant and the infuriating. If he could add a bit of steel to his game he'd be a heck of a player. Not sure I agree that we'd have won if we'd played another 5 mins with 11 men though. We had good chances to win it at 2-2 anyway.

Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

Very much enjoyed the game today, although with some better finishing by our boys, we could have easily won. My payer assessment as follows:

Sir Wes. Not at fault for wither goal. Some poor kicking though. Didn't have too much to do really.
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Jay. Steady game and some good overlapping runs. Not sure he is quite clicking with Roberts yet.
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Ward. OK game. Wish he held the line a bit better, especially at defending set pieces where we still look vulnerable.
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Flint. My MOM. Awesome in the air, still a little too much hoofball for me but showed fantastic commitment.
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Thomson. Improving with every game although he was totally knackered at about 75 mins into the game. Kept going though.
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Ferry. A favorite player of mine. Huffed and puffed today and ran his heart out, but it just wasn't happening for him today.
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Miller. Is he really Captain material? I though his lack of pace told today.
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Ritchie. Tried really hard but was marked out of the game. Often had two defenders to deal with. Robins did his homework here.
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Roberts. Had a number of chances which he fluffed. Lacks pace and was bought in for crosses, but made none. Hopefully he will get better.
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Benson. Lover the way he hangs in the air a split second before the defender to get to the ball first. Played OK but had little support.
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Bostock. An obvious talent but lacking match practice. Will get better and would like to see him in a supporting role to say, Williams and Collins.
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Rooney. Strong and made his presence felt. Did well for the time he was on.
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Navarro. Added necessary bite to our midfield. Did OK. Hope his injury is not too serious.
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Collins. Great goal and you could see he was up for it. A great substitution by PDC.
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Ref. Woeful. Did not control the game, got many decisions wrong including booking the wrong man. Players very confused as to what he was whistling for at times.
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Coventry. You could easily tell they have played at a higher level. Physically stronger than us and quicker to the ball when on their game. I think they will end up in a play off spot.
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Well, thats my thoughts on the game. 2-2 seemed about right, although we may rue some of the chances we missed. PDC needs to tell his strikers to head down in front of goal and not at the keeper!

jayden wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
Bostok got stick for no reason. Created a few chances and did well for a player not getting regular game time. Can't judge on the odd game. Well you can but that makes you a clown. If he had been the most forward player in a diamond then I believe this would have suited him and us more. Roberts did well in the position and Navarro did well in front of the defence. Paolo's change of shape worked however his antics are sadly the same. Humiliating Benson post game served no purpose. Kicking the dug out. Screaming up towards the board members. I love a bit of passion but this is an embarrassment for the club. Paolo has a great win record as he pointed out earlier in the week. Unfortunately his man management methods and treatment of players is not professional. Last season he spoke of Benson's quality and ability to play up higher divisions for a few seasons to come. Anyway, Leon Clarke returns soon. Should spice it up a bit.

He was having a pop at some st fans who were having a go at him for taking Matt off.

Have to say that every time we got down to the bye-line the crosses were causing problems for them...and in the 2nd half it was causing sheer blind panic.
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We all went in at half time and all still believed 3pts were there for the taking. We were unlucky early on not to put the ball in the net and they've mugged us on two set pieces....Benson did look short of a yard of pace today and a real pity about Bostock - not a good game..he promises much and then gets bullied off the ball or tries to over-complicate things....he's better than that but he's got to man up a bit.
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My worry is that having Ritchie cutting in ALL the time may be getting a bit predictable and as per many I'd like to see them mix it up - swap him to the left wing occasionally.
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Good substitutions and timings and a well deserved draw...just wasn't looking like our day for most for the game but weak headers and shots straight at their keeper weren't helping.
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I had a neutral as a guest with me today and he thought:
1) We should have probably nicked it although we were really wasteful.
2) Wondered why we insist on booting it up in the air as we look really good and dangerous when playing the ball to feet.
3) Was staggered at the level of refereeing - thought the guy was awful and inconsistent (both ways)...have to agree as he made some howlers today - benefitting both teams....mind you the linesmen weren't too hot either - very weak when they needed to be strong.
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A week of shooting practice and then bring on Scunny....although we all know it means a certain person will score at least one goal.....at least they haven't sacked and replaced their manager! Well...YET!!

the wizard wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/19

854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

Thanks Wizard.

I've just listened to the interview and really do think it's time DiCanio sent someone else out to face the press. It may be entertaining to some but frankly, I find it damaging drivel.

The facts of today are that we conceded from 2 set plays. Not a forward problem. We scored 2 goals and nearly another. Not evidence of a forward problem.

There is no prolific scorer because no-one gets a long enough run to have the chance to build fitness, gain confidence and establish a record.

Finally, if anyone is to blame for the (non) problem we have with our strikers, well who brought them here in the first place, having been given a generous budget by the Board?

These post match outbursts are incoherent and immature. Get a grip and grow up Paolo.

the wizard wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/19

854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

Better option is BBC Wiltshire iPlayer. You can hear the whole interview "as live".

bongiaz wrote:

YateleyRed wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

How can it be the managers fault Nick! I bet you Paulo would not have missed the chances our boys had today.

LEAGA 1 LEAGA 1 NOT BARCELONA NOT CHAMPION LEAG, LEAGA 1

PS Paulo might of missed them but Paolo would of netted a few but then again as he told us thisa LEAGA1, he cant expect our players to be on par with what he done if they were then i'm afraid they wouldn't be with us in ummmm LEAGA 1.

Great result and a point against a semi decent club.
What we must remember we have gone up a division and just maybe Pdc does not have players he needs.
OK injuries apply to all clubs ,yet posts go on about how much money Pdc has had ref wages/new players etc,again he answered this in the adver.
My only concern is what he wasted,still thats water under the bridge.
It does seem now he needs an out and out goal poacher as from stats today 32 attemps etc he is right.
Lets hope the embargo can be resolved asap.
As for today Great fightback Town
WELL DONE thats football was good effort

Great result and a point against a semi decent club.
What we must remember we have gone up a division and just maybe Pdc does not have players he needs.
OK injuries apply to all clubs ,yet posts go on about how much money Pdc has had ref wages/new players etc,again he answered this in the adver.
My only concern is what he wasted,still thats water under the bridge.
It does seem now he needs an out and out goal poacher as from stats today 32 attemps etc he is right.
Lets hope the embargo can be resolved asap.
As for today Great fightback Town
WELL DONE thats football was good effort

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
Bostok got stick for no reason. Created a few chances and did well for a player not getting regular game time. Can't judge on the odd game. Well you can but that makes you a clown. If he had been the most forward player in a diamond then I believe this would have suited him and us more. Roberts did well in the position and Navarro did well in front of the defence. Paolo's change of shape worked however his antics are sadly the same. Humiliating Benson post game served no purpose. Kicking the dug out. Screaming up towards the board members. I love a bit of passion but this is an embarrassment for the club. Paolo has a great win record as he pointed out earlier in the week. Unfortunately his man management methods and treatment of players is not professional. Last season he spoke of Benson's quality and ability to play up higher divisions for a few seasons to come. Anyway, Leon Clarke returns soon. Should spice it up a bit.

He was having a pop at some st fans who were having a go at him for taking Matt off.

Have to say that every time we got down to the bye-line the crosses were causing problems for them...and in the 2nd half it was causing sheer blind panic.
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We all went in at half time and all still believed 3pts were there for the taking. We were unlucky early on not to put the ball in the net and they've mugged us on two set pieces....Benson did look short of a yard of pace today and a real pity about Bostock - not a good game..he promises much and then gets bullied off the ball or tries to over-complicate things....he's better than that but he's got to man up a bit.
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My worry is that having Ritchie cutting in ALL the time may be getting a bit predictable and as per many I'd like to see them mix it up - swap him to the left wing occasionally.
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Good substitutions and timings and a well deserved draw...just wasn't looking like our day for most for the game but weak headers and shots straight at their keeper weren't helping.
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I had a neutral as a guest with me today and he thought:
1) We should have probably nicked it although we were really wasteful.
2) Wondered why we insist on booting it up in the air as we look really good and dangerous when playing the ball to feet.
3) Was staggered at the level of refereeing - thought the guy was awful and inconsistent (both ways)...have to agree as he made some howlers today - benefitting both teams....mind you the linesmen weren't too hot either - very weak when they needed to be strong.
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A week of shooting practice and then bring on Scunny....although we all know it means a certain person will score at least one goal.....at least they haven't sacked and replaced their manager! Well...YET!!

Agree with all 3 points you're mate raised. Definitely better when we have the confidence to play it on the floor. Not anywhere as dangerous playing long ball. We should definitely have won on chances, but obviously relieved at the comeback and great character shown. Also officials poor, Coventry seemed to get more, but we had a fair few bad tackles that went unpunished also.

All round it was a rollercoaster of a game, fantastic at times but frustrating also. Sometimes it just seems like we only come alive when we're really under the cosh, we should play to our strengths and attack from the word go. In some ways I think the ref did us a favour, our resurgence seemed to happen after a few poor decisions went against us in quick succession.

the wizard wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/19

854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

I listened to the live interview as i was driving from the ground and it took a bit of the 'feel good' factor away I have to admit.
I was feeling really good about turning the game right round and nearly winning if only miller's shot or Rooney's header had not been straight at the goalie we'd have done it - and thoroughly deserved it.
The main negative bits of the PDC interview were;

TRANSFER EMBARGO - " if the board's plans have changed then I may need to consider my own plans' - I still fail to see how this is the board's fault as they have fully backed PDC and a current 'overspend' is down to PDC surely? It was confusing because he seemed to contradict himself by also stating that he signed a contract extension on the basis of a 3 year plan - so maybe stabilising this year and pushing on next.

BENSON - 'He should have stretched harder and braver to score from one chance even if it meant hurting himself on a post - to be a strike at this level this is what you need to do' - I personally thought that Benson was our best forward in the first half and feel this 'knee-jerk' public response is not the way to deal with any real or perceived weaknesses in player performances. I still feel PDC has a lot to learn in this area and risks undermining player confidence which is sometimes evident (LO and Colchester games in particular!)

I still feel that on balance PDC is the best thing to happen for this club for a very long time - I just wish he'd learn to impose a little 'thinking time' before speaking to the media.

mancrobin wrote:

the wizard wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/19


854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

Thanks Wizard.

I've just listened to the interview and really do think it's time DiCanio sent someone else out to face the press. It may be entertaining to some but frankly, I find it damaging drivel.

The facts of today are that we conceded from 2 set plays. Not a forward problem. We scored 2 goals and nearly another. Not evidence of a forward problem.

There is no prolific scorer because no-one gets a long enough run to have the chance to build fitness, gain confidence and establish a record.

Finally, if anyone is to blame for the (non) problem we have with our strikers, well who brought them here in the first place, having been given a generous budget by the Board?

These post match outbursts are incoherent and immature. Get a grip and grow up Paolo.

If you didn't see a 'Forward Problem' then you can't have been at the match.
...Having said that you tied your colours to the mast a long time ago...so not worth trying to reason with someone of your ilk.
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Benson - Didn't get close today was off the pace and looked 2nd best all day and wasted too many chances for him. Charlton didn't play him for a reason and looking at things he is a substitute or one for the F.A.Cup early rounds.
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Bostock - Too lightweight and not a front line player - wasted a hatful of chances and gifted possession too easily...time to go back to Tottenham I think.
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A. Rooney - Stronger player but agree - maybe he could do with a run in the team....one of those who works hard but he does lack a turn of pace.
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Collins was wasteful last week but a bit better this week and one you can see benefitting from Williams' time out of the starting line up..
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We need a killer touch in the box and sadly we REALLY missed Williams who is injured.
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned and that is the poor finishing from our midfield today...soft headers and soft shots all straight at the keeper - go to do better...need more goals from midfield.

I thought Benson did OK in the first half. He won a big proportion of his headers from the stream of high balls lumped up to him. But the tactic is so hit and miss, especially when there is no aggressive fellow striker sniffing around to pick up the pieces. Benson can do a good job at this level so I certainly won't be writing him off. But I still think Collins and Williams will prove to be a fruitful partnership for us.

So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us.

However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ?

Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Wiz like me you weren't there today? so how can you be judgmental about comments PdC has made about PB's performance - maybe he is being cruel to be kind? maybe its his way of geeing him up for the next game - I really do think you're fast approaching a view where you'd prefer PdC not to be manager - you have to let him do it his way and it might rankle sometimes but there's a hell of a way to go - and we've no divine right to succeed have we. Can only surmise that we didn't have foot on the pedal all the time? - still in the air too much? - and some woeful finishing from 6 yards a couple of times? Still loads of time to sharpen our act.

the wizard wrote:
So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us.

However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ?

Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Personally, if I had put in a good effort but not had my best game then I would hate to be publicly humiliated, I don't like listening to it at all.

I'm seriously thinking of stopping listening to the post match interviews when we haven't won as it makes me cringe. Mid week interviews are much better and well informed.

But saying that it's a results business, there's more than 1 way to skin a cat, and Paolo has brought a massive improvement to the club with a good win ratio, the players are performing for him so I suppose if it doesn't bother them why should it bother me?

Malkym wrote:
Wiz like me you weren't there today? so how can you be judgmental about comments PdC has made about PB's performance - maybe he is being cruel to be kind? maybe its his way of geeing him up for the next game - I really do think you're fast approaching a view where you'd prefer PdC not to be manager - you have to let him do it his way and it might rankle sometimes but there's a hell of a way to go - and we've no divine right to succeed have we. Can only surmise that we didn't have foot on the pedal all the time? - still in the air too much? - and some woeful finishing from 6 yards a couple of times? Still loads of time to sharpen our act.

Malkym,

No, Sorry, wasn't there, things were terribly wrong with the wife this morning, she comes first. looking better now though.

I was just questioning, the same as many others have, the name and shame tactic.

If you look at the very beginning of this thread and last night I was really up for a slim win 1-0 would have been enough for me, squeeky bum time yes but three points and a clean sheet. was what I had hoped for. I don't see that as a neg against the manager. he may be good on the team and the pitch, but my own view is, his PR needs work, others seem to agree. I think from what I have been told on the phone and by reading the above threads we did ok after a wobbly start in the first half, and a plan B. That shows to me we are moving in the right direction. Next up, Scunnie, I'm hoping for something better from that game in the run up to Villa. Hopefully by then some issues will be resolved, we shall see. Lets hope so.

Oi Den! wrote:
I thought Benson did OK in the first half. He won a big proportion of his headers from the stream of high balls lumped up to him. But the tactic is so hit and miss, especially when there is no aggressive fellow striker sniffing around to pick up the pieces. Benson can do a good job at this level so I certainly won't be writing him off. But I still think Collins and Williams will prove to be a fruitful partnership for us.

Spot on - lots of effort from Benson and was one of our better players first half. Would have benefitted with another striker up front to pick up the knock downs he provided. I felt it a bit unfair he got singled out for criticism, especially as a few others were off the pace today.

Hard as it is I try to ignore the off field antics though, often gets blown out of proportion and ultimately it's what happens on the pitch that matters.

Wilesy wrote:

the wizard wrote:
So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us.

However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ?

Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Personally, if I had put in a good effort but not had my best game then I would hate to be publicly humiliated, I don't like listening to it at all.

I'm seriously thinking of stopping listening to the post match interviews when we haven't won as it makes me cringe. Mid week interviews are much better and well informed.

But saying that it's a results business, there's more than 1 way to skin a cat, and Paolo has brought a massive improvement to the club with a good win ratio, the players are performing for him so I suppose if it doesn't bother them why should it bother me?

Your not alone with those feelings mate.Its not being negative towards our manager who we all(nearly all) want to succeed in gaining back to back promotions with our club but i'm a man who depends on his workforce to uphold my business as well as my reputation so leading to my success and lifestyle,i'm just not sure Paolo`s man management skills are going to take him to the same success he had as a player unless he works on his own limitations i am aware he is used to everything revolving around his self but sometimes you have to take one for the team.I am a PDC fan but like you i sometimes cringe at the outburst`s and public assassination of HIS workforce.

the wizard wrote:

bongiaz wrote: I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

Wasn't there so can't comment on those points in particular, but I did read some where we are the fifth most stressful club to follow, can't imagine why, lol. The worrying thing is, what happens to these people when the Town End gets pulled down and replaced. During the interim where do they go, on the bank ?

Well i must be blind as today i thought we were crap...
I thought we only started playing when the goal was scratched-off for off-side..After that we should have won 4.2..
Defence was shocking and the midfield was very weak

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

the wizard wrote:
So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us.

However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ?

Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Personally, if I had put in a good effort but not had my best game then I would hate to be publicly humiliated, I don't like listening to it at all.

I'm seriously thinking of stopping listening to the post match interviews when we haven't won as it makes me cringe. Mid week interviews are much better and well informed.

But saying that it's a results business, there's more than 1 way to skin a cat, and Paolo has brought a massive improvement to the club with a good win ratio, the players are performing for him so I suppose if it doesn't bother them why should it bother me?

Your not alone with those feelings mate.Its not being negative towards our manager who we all(nearly all) want to succeed in gaining back to back promotions with our club but i'm a man who depends on his workforce to uphold my business as well as my reputation so leading to my success and lifestyle,i'm just not sure Paolo`s man management skills are going to take him to the same success he had as a player unless he works on his own limitations i am aware he is used to everything revolving around his self but sometimes you have to take one for the team.I am a PDC fan but like you i sometimes cringe at the outburst`s and public assassination of HIS workforce.

Steve,
I worked in engineering for many years, from the bottom to the top, and I always judged that nobody in any of my crews or departments scuffed up on purpose. That was always my belief, and guys used to come in and apologise things went wrong, so we would then together sort things out, and a coffee afterwards. Its called mutual respect. I never had a problem, and when the chips were down they all tried all the harder, and I have always been proud of them, and the fact my belief in human nature was about right. Maybe football is different, but since the change of management style haven't England done well.

the wizard wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

the wizard wrote:
So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us.

However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ?

Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Personally, if I had put in a good effort but not had my best game then I would hate to be publicly humiliated, I don't like listening to it at all.

I'm seriously thinking of stopping listening to the post match interviews when we haven't won as it makes me cringe. Mid week interviews are much better and well informed.

But saying that it's a results business, there's more than 1 way to skin a cat, and Paolo has brought a massive improvement to the club with a good win ratio, the players are performing for him so I suppose if it doesn't bother them why should it bother me?

Your not alone with those feelings mate.Its not being negative towards our manager who we all(nearly all) want to succeed in gaining back to back promotions with our club but i'm a man who depends on his workforce to uphold my business as well as my reputation so leading to my success and lifestyle,i'm just not sure Paolo`s man management skills are going to take him to the same success he had as a player unless he works on his own limitations i am aware he is used to everything revolving around his self but sometimes you have to take one for the team.I am a PDC fan but like you i sometimes cringe at the outburst`s and public assassination of HIS workforce.

Steve,
I worked in engineering for many years, from the bottom to the top, and I always judged that nobody in any of my crews or departments scuffed up on purpose. That was always my belief, and guys used to come in and apologise things went wrong, so we would then together sort things out, and a coffee afterwards. Its called mutual respect. I never had a problem, and when the chips were down they all tried all the harder, and I have always been proud of them, and the fact my belief in human nature was about right. Maybe football is different, but since the change of management style haven't England done well.

Wiz, i'm aware as i'm sure you are many roads lead to Rome and i would not profess to being the most patient of men (contrary to the popular belief that fishermen need patience)but if i caned all my guys every time they didn't meet my expectations i would lose some very very loyal, hardworking,but only human men.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

the wizard wrote:

bongiaz wrote: I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

Wasn't there so can't comment on those points in particular, but I did read some where we are the fifth most stressful club to follow, can't imagine why, lol. The worrying thing is, what happens to these people when the Town End gets pulled down and replaced. During the interim where do they go, on the bank ?

Well i must be blind as today i thought we were crap...
I thought we only started playing when the goal was scratched-off for off-side..After that we should have won 4.2..
Defence was shocking and the midfield was very weak

Fair comment - there was little urgency until then. At 2-0 down we were playing as if we were the ones in front for a fair while. Different game once they got a bit of confidence, but we should have been playing with that level of intensity a lot earlier.

Midland Red,

You quoted,

BENSON - 'He should have stretched harder and braver to score from one chance even if it meant hurting himself on a post - to be a strike at this level this is what you need to do'

So if the guy does that and gets himself laid out or bad shoulder injury and is out for weeks injured, thats ok ?

I'm thinking thats crazy, are we not in enough sh#te as it is with injuries ?

I think your conclusion after this was quite correct. I really do think a prepared statement should be read out or somebody like Chris Tanner, STFC Media manager, should come out and make the statement, until things have had time to settle. Carrying on like this is asking for trouble.

the wizard wrote:
Midland Red,

You quoted,

BENSON - 'He should have stretched harder and braver to score from one chance even if it meant hurting himself on a post - to be a strike at this level this is what you need to do'

So if the guy does that and gets himself laid out or bad shoulder injury and is out for weeks injured, thats ok ?

I'm thinking thats crazy, are we not in enough sh#te as it is with injuries ?

I think your conclusion after this was quite correct. I really do think a prepared statement should be read out or somebody like Chris Tanner, STFC Media manager, should come out and make the statement, until things have had time to settle. Carrying on like this is asking for trouble.

I agree Wiz, it takes the p1ss. He's a cracking manager that's obvious, we just don't need the extra **** that comes with it, slagging off in public of dignified and decent blokes like Benno....it has to stop.

mikek wrote:
Great comeback today after we looked almost dead and buried but taking Ritchie off who really was marked out of the game today seemed to give us other options. Even though they lost their left back we seemed to gather some momentum and certainly finished strongly in the last 20 minutes and could and should have won it. Rooney surely should have done better with his header but what a topsy turvey game. Fabulous goals from Roberts and especially Collins and that should do him the world of good. Coventry were a very good side and looked like a championship team but in the end they were hanging by a thread. Well done Swindon but wish you had started the game as you finished. Flint MOM today easily.

Been out and just started reading the comments but got to yours and it summmed it up for me. Crucial point was the Ritchie substitution, they packed that area but after he went off it left them wondering, 'who do i mark'. It freed up Ferry, Williams and Navarro and they came into the game more.

Full credit to Paolo for that, there was only one winner after the equaliser.

Any news on the Coventry player that was stretched off ? No blame anywhere but to he did seem in a bad way.

COYMR

Wilesy wrote:
Seemed to me we were varying it a bit today, some long ball which of course didn't pay off as we hardly won a thing first half, plus some good wing play down both sides. Coventry didn't create much although looked a competent, physical side. Most of their presmably new loan players (as they all had numbers 30+) looked very good and certainly bossed the midfield. Fair play to Paolo for giving Bostock a go, something the majority including myself have been clamouring for. He showed glimpses I thought but looked rusty and not suited to the long balls fed to him athough he did spray it around quite nicely when he dropped deep. He was right to sub him off though I felt. I didn't hear the bit of the interview with the Benson comments but I didn't think he had his best game. In reality he is probably fair to say he is not a top League 1 forward, but he should not have said that in public imo. But Benno did deserve a chance at the start of the season and will still score a few in L1. What's clear after 10 games or so is that there is a big gulf between League 1 and League 2, and very few teams other than Tranmere are showing consistency. We can compete with any on our day but when we have an off day or go to sleep at set pieces like today then we get punished whereas last year we didn't. Collins when he performs like that looks a very good player, but we need to see it a bit more often. Rooney and Collins up front next game please. Finally credt to Paolo for a change of tactics mid-game. I've been critical of there only being a plan A or a plan B prepared pre-game, and just changing personnel not the system mid-game, but today he was bold and took off the ineffectve Ritchie and moved Roberts behind the front two, and it worked brilliantly. I thought when he did here we go more long ball, but we showed the passion and desire to scrap and fight for the second and third balls and Coventry fell apart a bit. A step forward for Paolo there and good to see.

Spot on.

COYMR

Oi Den! wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
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Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

Yep, you were the only Swindon supporter in the ground that thought the ref done well, why does that not surprise me, Lol!

With all due respect to other posters Mountain and molehills time again .I went yesterday and allthough it was know way near as bad as the last 2 home games in the league it was no burnley either.Benson won a lot of headers then got smashed on the head and was not intrested in 50/50s then,Bostock tried to hard ,matt had 3 players around him all match and this is where we one the match as the coventry team swiched off job done as our best player left the pitch at the time i thought Pdc has made a brave one their as the boo boys were ready.The team came to life and should have won and the Manager should take the credit because if people would stay to the end and cheer the team off they would have seen the team huddle and Pdc was right in their,no a team with no spirit or respect for the manager dosent come back in a game like to day.Not a rant but could do after queing up for 1 and a half hours because they sent one less ticket for the villa game then the **** leaving the ground not leaving only to stand in the way STAY IN YOUR SEATS OR GO.

Oi Den! wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
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Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

Den spot on yes for me the keeper was well out off his box you only had to look where Benson was left on the ground.Yes a lot around me moaning about the ref and linesman but most were right ,also he could have sent Thompson off late on as well as J.

There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc
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"It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave"
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And
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“It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’.

“When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day.

“Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.”
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This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside!
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It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere!
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If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Steve. Brentford wrote:

bongiaz wrote:

YateleyRed wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

How can it be the managers fault Nick! I bet you Paulo would not have missed the chances our boys had today.

LEAGA 1 LEAGA 1 NOT BARCELONA NOT CHAMPION LEAG, LEAGA 1

PS Paulo might of missed them but Paolo would of netted a few but then again as he told us thisa LEAGA1, he cant expect our players to be on par with what he done if they were then i'm afraid they wouldn't be with us in ummmm LEAGA 1.

Your comments make no sense Nick? I am questioning whether you are a true Swindon Town supporter?

jayden wrote:
With all due respect to other posters Mountain and molehills time again .I went yesterday and allthough it was know way near as bad as the last 2 home games in the league it was no burnley either.Benson won a lot of headers then got smashed on the head and was not intrested in 50/50s then,Bostock tried to hard ,matt had 3 players around him all match and this is where we one the match as the coventry team swiched off job done as our best player left the pitch at the time i thought Pdc has made a brave one their as the boo boys were ready.The team came to life and should have won and the Manager should take the credit because if people would stay to the end and cheer the team off they would have seen the team huddle and Pdc was right in their,no a team with no spirit or respect for the manager dosent come back in a game like to day.Not a rant but could do after queing up for 1 and a half hours because they sent one less ticket for the villa game then the **** leaving the ground not leaving only to stand in the way STAY IN YOUR SEATS OR GO.

Good post...totally agree with you!

Thought we played really well yesterday, could have easily won 4-2 and never looked like conceding - except set plays. Really need to work on defending Corners and FK's in training. My only other criticism would be that we need to be a bit more direct going forward at times. Too many touches and too many close passes when there is an opportunity to get the ball.
Thought Benno had a great game but I'll praise PDC for three great substitutions. Brave to take off Ritchie and Benno but it disrupted their gameplan and worked really well. Bostock is not an out-and-out striker, he's not strong enough, would like to have subbed Ritchie for Collins and dropped Bostock out on the wing. Sure we will see more of him. Don't need more strikers, so someone will have to go. It's got to be Adam Rooney - good player, but nothing we haven't already got with Benson, Williams, Collins +1?

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

the wizard wrote:

bongiaz wrote: I am so glad DiCanio's plan B worked this afternoon, taking Matt Ritchie off was a brave thing to do and in my opinion the correct one as he was marked out of the game. Shame a small minority of fans in the Town End did not agree and booed PDC's decision. Seeing the same fans sing DiCanios name after we scored twice just proves what imbeciles they really are! The same fans calling the poor Coventry player who was stretchered off a cheat..need some serious counselling!

Wasn't there so can't comment on those points in particular, but I did read some where we are the fifth most stressful club to follow, can't imagine why, lol. The worrying thing is, what happens to these people when the Town End gets pulled down and replaced. During the interim where do they go, on the bank ?

Well i must be blind as today i thought we were crap...
I thought we only started playing when the goal was scratched-off for off-side..After that we should have won 4.2..
Defence was shocking and the midfield was very weak

Agree Daz. There's no getting away from it. From the 10th minute to the 70th we were awful. On that showing Coventry are a much better bet for promotion than us.

I'm sure he said he wanted to be in the top 8 at the end of October?
Looks like our plan is well on schedule.
Onwards and upwards
Charlie Austin anyone?

old town robin wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
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Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

Yep, you were the only Swindon supporter in the ground that thought the ref done well, why does that not surprise me, Lol!

Haha! Thought that might tickle your fancy OTR.
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The ref dished out 8 bookings yesterday - all absolutely correct - in a game made very difficult to referee by the antics of players on both sides.
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The ref could have booked or sent off the Coventry keeper keeper for his punch outside the area, he could have sent McEveley off for his two acts of sheer petulance, he could have sent Thompson off for his wild lunge, and he could have sent PDC to the stands for catching the ball before it had gone out for a throw in. But what would everyone have said if he had done all those things? He would have been accused of being card happy and losing control. It was no thanks to the players that we saw the game finish 11 v 11. It was thanks to the ref for common sense. Yes, I'm sure he got a few things wrong - hardly surprising in a game like yesterday's where he and the other officials needed eyes in their arses.

smirg kcab wrote:
I'm sure he said he wanted to be in the top 8 at the end of October?
Looks like our plan is well on schedule.
Onwards and upwards
Charlie Austin anyone?

Unfortunately t's not going to happen, grim. But just imagine the entertainment we'd get watching all those U-turns being performed by the Austin haters if he did come back!
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We'll be alright up front though. Williams and Collins will serve us well, with Benson as number one reserve. I'm trying - but struggling - not to pay too much attention to PDC's comments these days. I have to say, though, that I think he hit a new low yesterday with his public humiliation of Benson, a wholehearted pro who never gives less than 100%. How people can defend that is beyond me.
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And JW must be really pi55ed of at yet another "I might resign if I don't get what I want" rant. PDC says he might consider his position. Here's a bit of news for you Paolo: the club is quite capable of considering its position too.

Oi Den! wrote:

old town robin wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
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Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

Yep, you were the only Swindon supporter in the ground that thought the ref done well, why does that not surprise me, Lol!

Haha! Thought that might tickle your fancy OTR.
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The ref dished out 8 bookings yesterday - all absolutely correct - in a game made very difficult to referee by the antics of players on both sides.
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The ref could have booked or sent off the Coventry keeper keeper for his punch outside the area, he could have sent McEveley off for his two acts of sheer petulance, he could have sent Thompson off for his wild lunge, and he could have sent PDC to the stands for catching the ball before it had gone out for a throw in. But what would everyone have said if he had done all those things? He would have been accused of being card happy and losing control. It was no thanks to the players that we saw the game finish 11 v 11. It was thanks to the ref for common sense. Yes, I'm sure he got a few things wrong - hardly surprising in a game like yesterday's where he and the other officials needed eyes in their arses.

It finished 10v11 😉

mancrobin wrote:

the wizard wrote:

mancrobin wrote:
Can someone please confirm if DiCanio has made the reported comments about Benson. When was this interview given?

Link,

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/19


854844


The comment is brief, but its there. I don't know how much has been edited if any.

Thanks Wizard.

I've just listened to the interview and really do think it's time DiCanio sent someone else out to face the press. It may be entertaining to some but frankly, I find it damaging drivel.

The facts of today are that we conceded from 2 set plays. Not a forward problem. We scored 2 goals and nearly another. Not evidence of a forward problem.

There is no prolific scorer because no-one gets a long enough run to have the chance to build fitness, gain confidence and establish a record.

Finally, if anyone is to blame for the (non) problem we have with our strikers, well who brought them here in the first place, having been given a generous budget by the Board?

These post match outbursts are incoherent and immature. Get a grip and grow up Paolo.

spot on

Redhouse Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

old town robin wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:

who am i wrote:

Swindon1984 wrote:
Should have kept my mouth shut. We are awful at the minute. Long ball every time.

were you at the game today? long ball my ar$e we dominate most of the game with good pass and movement we had all the chances they had three and scored two. its clear to see that we need a top class striker too put our chances away. And for all those that keep spoutimg bostock for a game your having a laugh he was very poor and im yet to see him have a decent game...

Sure was, were you??? Every time the ball was passed back from the midfield to defence, then for Wes to hoist it forward - worked to a degree with Benson, less so with him off.

Disagree with my opinion if you want but don't try and wind me up by questioning if I was there, I wouldn't comment on the performance if I wasn't. I'm struggling to see where you're coming from, we created several good chances and should have scored a lot more but for the majority of the game we were lofting it up field - really only played with any urgency for the last twenty minutes.

Sorry but you've really wound me up there - if you didn't see a LOT of hoof ball today then I find that hard to believe, but I wouldn't question whether you were there or not.

Moving on...

Don't move on just yet '84. I agree with everything you say. Far too much hoofing again today
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For most of the game we looked a class behind Coventry. At half time it was hard to see us getting a goal let alone a point. The moment that summed up the difference between the two sides for me was when Ferry was favourite to beat a defender but ended up bundling his opponent over because he lost the physical battle. But in that last twenty minutes we battered them and should really have won it. Great character in that comeback.
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Reckon I must have been the only person in the ground who thought the ref did well today. I thought their keeper might have handled outside the area when he punched the ball away before clattering into Benson. But apart from that I'm struggling to think of anything I disagreed with. Perhaps he should have given McEveley a second booking after his petulant hack when he lost the ball but it's all about opinion - and it's only the ref's opinion that counts.
.
Cracking comeback but I don't think we should let it paper over some big cracks.

Yep, you were the only Swindon supporter in the ground that thought the ref done well, why does that not surprise me, Lol!

Haha! Thought that might tickle your fancy OTR.
.
The ref dished out 8 bookings yesterday - all absolutely correct - in a game made very difficult to referee by the antics of players on both sides.
.
The ref could have booked or sent off the Coventry keeper keeper for his punch outside the area, he could have sent McEveley off for his two acts of sheer petulance, he could have sent Thompson off for his wild lunge, and he could have sent PDC to the stands for catching the ball before it had gone out for a throw in. But what would everyone have said if he had done all those things? He would have been accused of being card happy and losing control. It was no thanks to the players that we saw the game finish 11 v 11. It was thanks to the ref for common sense. Yes, I'm sure he got a few things wrong - hardly surprising in a game like yesterday's where he and the other officials needed eyes in their arses.

It finished 10v11 😉

Yep, quite right - my mistake!

London Red wrote:
There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc
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"It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave"
.
And
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“It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’.

“When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day.

“Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.”
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This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside!
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It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere!
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If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual!

You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for
"what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN.
One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

the wizard wrote: So, here we go again. A scape goat by the name of Paul Benson, one of the better strikers we have had, not our top scorer but someone who has done well for us. However was he guilty as charged today, or was he up against players in defence who would normally play at a level above League One ? Is it fair for manager to carry on with the name and shame tactic, as I feel there is a moral issue here as well, and what does in do for morale after the team has evidently tried so hard to pull back the deficit and nearly steal the win. If Benson is as bad as his manager says then why did the same man put him in the starting 11 if he had no confidence in him, or does the manager change his opinion after the game each week based on result of said game, and tailor it to suit, just how vain is that.

Personally, if I had put in a good effort but not had my best game then I would hate to be publicly humiliated, I don't like listening to it at all. I'm seriously thinking of stopping listening to the post match interviews when we haven't won as it makes me cringe. Mid week interviews are much better and well informed. But saying that it's a results business, there's more than 1 way to skin a cat, and Paolo has brought a massive improvement to the club with a good win ratio, the players are performing for him so I suppose if it doesn't bother them why should it bother me?

Your not alone with those feelings mate.Its not being negative towards our manager who we all(nearly all) want to succeed in gaining back to back promotions with our club but i'm a man who depends on his workforce to uphold my business as well as my reputation so leading to my success and lifestyle,i'm just not sure Paolo`s man management skills are going to take him to the same success he had as a player unless he works on his own limitations i am aware he is used to everything revolving around his self but sometimes you have to take one for the team.I am a PDC fan but like you i sometimes cringe at the outburst`s and public assassination of HIS workforce.

IF any of the players did that or said anything that he dint like they would be gone.FACT

Great comeback yesterday, good to see Paulo’s changes make the difference. Once we went to a front 3 of Collins, Rooney and Roberts we played a lot better. Hopefully we now have the plan B we need as its obvious every team coming to the CG now is going to sit back and stop our wing play as they know that is our main threat. We needed an alternative as if Ritchie and Roberts are marked out of the game we just end up hoofing it. Would like to see Rooney given a chance from the start next game with Collins.

Can see why its easier for players away from home at the moment, the CG is either a library or a cauldron of negativity this season. Do some fans really think it is helpful to moan/shout at players at every slight mistake or boo Paulo for taking off Ritchie (who’s been average for a few games now). Don’t think it’s a coincidence that once everyone finally got behind the team at the end we got some momentum.

Not really sure where the feelgood factor from last year has gone, we’ve just got back into this league and we’re sixth (we were lower than this at same point in league 2 last year). Did people think we were going to thrash everyone and run away with a league we haven’t been able to get out of since the turn of the millennium?

Paolo it`s ferkin Paolo






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Steve. Brentford wrote:

London Red wrote:
There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc
.
"It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave"
.
And
.
“It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’.

“When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day.

“Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.”
.
This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside!
.
It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere!
.
If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual!

You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for
"what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN.
One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

If Paolo is considering his position Steve?it should take him 2 Seconds to realise,what a lucky boy he is to be manager of our club!and very lucky to have a superb chairman and board,backing him to the hilt,he should stop throwing his DUMMY and TOYS out of his Pram and get on with his job,or J-Wray should kick his @rse with his size nines!!!!!!!!!!

Haydonender wrote:
Great comeback yesterday, good to see Paulo’s changes make the difference. Once we went to a front 3 of Collins, Rooney and Roberts we played a lot better. Hopefully we now have the plan B we need as its obvious every team coming to the CG now is going to sit back and stop our wing play as they know that is our main threat. We needed an alternative as if Ritchie and Roberts are marked out of the game we just end up hoofing it. Would like to see Rooney given a chance from the start next game with Collins.

Can see why its easier for players away from home at the moment, the CG is either a library or a cauldron of negativity this season. Do some fans really think it is helpful to moan/shout at players at every slight mistake or boo Paulo for taking off Ritchie (who’s been average for a few games now). Don’t think it’s a coincidence that once everyone finally got behind the team at the end we got some momentum.

Not really sure where the feelgood factor from last year has gone, we’ve just got back into this league and we’re sixth (we were lower than this at same point in league 2 last year). Did people think we were going to thrash everyone and run away with a league we haven’t been able to get out of since the turn of the millennium?

Think the feelgood factor was brought back by PDC last season in such a big way, and the bar was raised so high, there is an expectation from the home fans that we should be winning more often than not. That isn't an unrealistic expectation based on the home games we've had so far - any we've drawn or lost have been preventable. Coventry clearly knew how to take care of themselves but didn't look that special to me, and with better finishing we could have easily put five or six past them yesterday.

That said we're still in the top six after dropping points in a few poor displays, which says to me the league is still fairly open. If we can be a bit more consistent then there's no reason we can't finish in the top six come the end of the season.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

London Red wrote:
There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc
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"It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave"
.
And
.
“It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’.

“When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day.

“Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.”
.
This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside!
.
It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere!
.
If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual!

You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for
"what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN.
One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

Good post Steve. I think I'm going to have to start avoiding hearing or reading PDC's post-match comments from now on. I'm starting to get very tired of these individual attacks on his own players. Maybe this makes me the sort of fan the Town could do without and I should go and watch Oxford.

Oi Den! wrote:

smirg kcab wrote: I'm sure he said he wanted to be in the top 8 at the end of October? Looks like our plan is well on schedule. Onwards and upwards Charlie Austin anyone?

Unfortunately t's not going to happen, grim. But just imagine the entertainment we'd get watching all those U-turns being performed by the Austin haters if he did come back! . We'll be alright up front though. Williams and Collins will serve us well, with Benson as number one reserve. I'm trying - but struggling - not to pay too much attention to PDC's comments these days. I have to say, though, that I think he hit a new low yesterday with his public humiliation of Benson, a wholehearted pro who never gives less than 100%. How people can defend that is beyond me. . And JW must be really pi55ed of at yet another "I might resign if I don't get what I want" rant. PDC says he might consider his position. Here's a bit of news for you Paolo: the club is quite capable of considering its position too.

den just getting a bit frustrated with many post saying we need a scorer, he got one of the best scorers in the lower divisions in williams, which i think has great work ethic, but to me not a scorer who will bag 20+, he cant have bad luck every game surely?.
also when i left the ground yesterday i said one thing i have said before paolo can manage league two players who earn arround £2,000 a week?? and may be able to manage players on £4000-£5000 a week in league one/championship but this man will never manage a top top club with players on £6,000 - infinity and beyond, players would rebel and refuse to play for him, so for me paolo is the best and only the best manager we will have/had. and this is the only board who will stand by him and his remarks.in my eyes if we win promotion i dont care what he say to players, some players needs a reminder,but not the likes of benno. stick my neck on the line again to say rooney and ward are absolute pants and no better than devera or connell/collins
onwards and upwards.

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

London Red wrote: There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc . "It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave" . And . “It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’. “When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day. “Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.” . This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside! . It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere! . If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual! You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for "what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN. One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

If Paolo is considering his position Steve?it should take him 2 Seconds to realise,what a lucky boy he is to be manager of our club!and very lucky to have a superb chairman and board,backing him to the hilt,he should stop throwing his DUMMY and TOYS out of his Pram and get on with his job,or J-Wray should kick his @rse with his size nines!!!!!!!!!!

Can we savk the manager when were in a embargo....lol
lr DONT answer ffs....

the don69 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

London Red wrote: There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc . "It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave" . And . “It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’. “When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day. “Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.” . This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside! . It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere! . If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual! You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for "what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN. One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

If Paolo is considering his position Steve?it should take him 2 Seconds to realise,what a lucky boy he is to be manager of our club!and very lucky to have a superb chairman and board,backing him to the hilt,he should stop throwing his DUMMY and TOYS out of his Pram and get on with his job,or J-Wray should kick his @rse with his size nines!!!!!!!!!!

Can we savk the manager when were in a embargo....lol
lr DONT answer ffs....

Steve. Brentford wrote:

bongiaz wrote:

YateleyRed wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

How can it be the managers fault Nick! I bet you Paulo would not have missed the chances our boys had today.

LEAGA 1 LEAGA 1 NOT BARCELONA NOT CHAMPION LEAG, LEAGA 1

PS Paulo might of missed them but Paolo would of netted a few but then again as he told us thisa LEAGA1, he cant expect our players to be on par with what he done if they were then i'm afraid they wouldn't be with us in ummmm LEAGA 1.

It is PDC's fault because he is responsible for buying, coaching and picking players who cannot put the ball in the net. He has had a huge budget, he should have bought better - that is the job of the manager!

Just an observation, if we played so well for the last twenty after changing things around then why not start the next game where we left off.

I ask those who went, do you think it is worth a try ? Matt Ritchie has been our star man for a long time, and there is no doubt to the depth of our gratitude, but he hasn't looked his best for a few games, and if we are to use wingers, and we had this debate last season, then now we have Roberts and RDV who seem to be playing so well, why not allow them to swap wings from time to time during the game. We have become very predictable and that may be our un doing. Glad Plan B worked so well yesterday.

Cheers Den,The town need all the supporters they can get as you well know mate,that was one of the worse quotes i have ever heard from a Town manager and his work ethic is one of the best from any previous manager i can remember.

Grim, i reckon you are probably right about how far up the ladder Paolo will reach in his managerial career,player power at the top would not tolerate the way Paolo does things,unless he changes which i cant see him doing BTW he may have a bit of a shock coming when he moves on.I hope this is not for a while but if and when it happens we will all still be here supporting what is important to us and that is STFC.

If you have the ball the other team can't score....

So why oh why did we keep passing it back to wes so he could practice his clearances. Meanwhile mceverly was sat making daisy chains on the left hand side of the park, with no one for company...

Redhouse Red wrote:
If you have the ball the other team can't score....

So why oh why did we keep passing it back to wes so he could practice his clearances. Meanwhile mceverly was sat making daisy chains on the left hand side of the park, with no one for company...

If it was that simple Redhouse!we'd all play like Spain,Watching Preston now and I'm wondering how the hell Preston Thrashed us!they look a very poor side today!!!!!!!

Glad to see us at the end playing 4-3-3 finally, although the players that would best suit this formation would be three of Ritchie, Roberts, Collins, Williams as the front three. That's three strung across the top - not necessarily two wingers. I don't see either Ritchie or Roberts as put and out wingers anyway.

It would also suit Bostock better. Yesterday when he played as second striker off Benson it didn't really work. Benson won a lot of intelligent headers and found a Swindon player constantly. But he doesn't have the pace and needs to play as one of a partnership of two, imho.

Coventry looked a decent side, and we paid them too much respect. Thought McGoldrick was class and easily MOM. But they weren't that special.

As Darren said, we didn't get going until the last 20 minutes after the disallowed goal.

Ritchie was marked out of the game again. Teams took Chesterfield's cue and know how to nullify the threat. While Thompson has played well defensively, there is no real understanding there with Ritchie (yet), and without Caddis (and Ferry, working that triangle), Ritchie often looks a shadow of his former self. Always going to score goals though. We, i.e. Paolo, needs to find a way to get the best out of our best player.

Fed up with the post-match rants. Totally agree with Steve. You don't treat your people that way, especially the decent ones. It is THEY who will bring YOU the success you crave as a manager.

As to the threats to the board, what is he expecting them to do exactly? We would have to offload quite a few players to free up anything like the money needed to loan or sign just one top player.

Paolo has spent on this squad to take us up to the limit. Is he expecting the board to now do something irregular to get round it, like put more of their own money in through pseudo and massive sponsorship deals from board members' companies? (like Man City) What is he expecting them to do, precisely?

I'm all for income and wage caps - the only way to restore some sanity to the mad world of modern football, and make it more competitive. Managers, including Paolo, are going to have to learn to live with that, because UEFA is driving that agenda and even our plodders at the FA/FL/PL are going to have to grasp it.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

London Red wrote:
There is only 2 things to say to all the FANS sniping at PdC post match comments and how he is ruining morale etc
.
"It is strange because Di Canio is tough, Di Canio is too mad, Di Canio is a dictator and don’t let the player speak. Di Canio treats them as a slave but nobody wants to leave"
.
And
.
“It doesn’t matter about the things he says and the way he goes through things, he is right. You sit back and say ‘okay, we’ve got to do it this way’.

“When he stops you in training he shows you the right way to do things. You think ‘that is right’ and it’s obviously about his knowledge of the game. He’s played at the highest level and it’s about learning new things every day.

“Even if you’re 35 and coming towards the end of your career you can still learn something new so I’m glad that I’m learning something new at 27 and hopefully will keep learning stuff.”
.
This comes from the people who are actually involved - so if it's good enough for them who are we to judge from the outside!
.
It may not work in your workplace and that is fine - but what goes on in your workplace may not work elsewhere!
.
If the players have an issue they know where JWs office is and it is always open as he cares a lot about his players as we have seen many many times!!!!

Interesting nothing about the game at all even though you said you were going unusual!

You do a grand job of explaining that J Wrays office is open,well i can assure you James if one of our players go over Di Canio`s head they will not play for us again and as for
"what works in your workplace" may not work elsewhere is cobblers i'm afraid mate,how can belittling individuals not just in front of teammates and staff but the whole frigging media and just about anybody who can be bothered to listen be good man management,James you cannot kick everyone with the same intensity, some can take some cant,some need an arm around them, some need a quiet word,managing young vibrant men full of testosterone is never easy but in that sentence there is a word that he needs to bear in mind and remember what he was like in those earlier yrs (and still today in some ways) and that word is MEN.
One more thing all this "i may reconsider my position" and such like threats do nothing for me and i would put money on the fact that this will eventually get on our boards nerves,remember James nothing is forever.

Wholeheartedly agree. I worked for a small firm that ruled with fear and even though I was getting on well I stood up to them as a matter of principle. Some employees said it's their business they run it how they want to. I say it is a moral duty to treat each other with respect no matter who's in charge. Whatever the wokplace is it is my opinion unlike LR and some others (and I respect their opinions) that everyone deserves to work with dignity and PDC is not allowing this. And yes Den, we are a biggr club than one man, good as he is and it's employees cerainly don't deserve the sort of crap flowing from his mouth yesterday. Treat your men with respect Paolo or just shut it.

The difference is LR works in an office environment, which is all very politically correct I dare say.

In industry things are different as they are in retail, catering etc so it seems sport is another area where what is to be expected is different. I shudder to think what would have happened to our manager if he had addressed comments about some of the guys I've had the pleasure of working with over the years. Intensive care springs very readily to mind. Quite simple, he would not have had a complaint made about him, he would have been beaten, and very hard too. Some things in life you just don't do. Sooner or later it will end in tears, we all know that whether we admit to it or not, between now and then expect more of the same, but funnily enough when we were winning predominantly last season, this sort of thing didn't happen, or was something similar said to the likes of Clarke etc that instigated their responses.

the wizard wrote:
Just an observation, if we played so well for the last twenty after changing things around then why not start the next game where we left off.

I ask those who went, do you think it is worth a try ? Matt Ritchie has been our star man for a long time, and there is no doubt to the depth of our gratitude, but he hasn't looked his best for a few games, and if we are to use wingers, and we had this debate last season, then now we have Roberts and RDV who seem to be playing so well, why not allow them to swap wings from time to time during the game. We have become very predictable and that may be our un doing. Glad Plan B worked so well yesterday.

Fair point, and as one who saw the match we did improve with a different shape, and with Ritchie off the field. His style hasn't worked half as effectively since Caddis has gone, and I'd like to see him used in a different way (maybe left wing so he can take players on more effectively, just an idea).

The style we used yo such great effect last year isn't working so well this time, maybe a 4-3-3 is the way forward (no pun intended)

Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era.....

"Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son."

"Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON"

"the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2."

"So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning."

"I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic.

DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"
!!!

"Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench.
Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us,
-
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

"I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint.
You seem to do everything other than ,
TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES.
-
People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces.
-
Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary."

AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT?

"I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy.

We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all.

But, and its a massive but, if we bring
someone in who can:

1 - Motivate
2 - Inspire
3 - Give Courage
4 - Give Desire
5 - Show Passion.

Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....."

SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

well so many posts/opinions etc good to see all these reactions.
As to the Pdc post match interview,again he wishes to know how far the Board has gone to resolve the Emargo just like many of us.Only thing is when he opens his mouth out pops pure frustration and as quite a few posts have said he needs to be calmer with the media.
JW said last week we fans have nothing to worry about and he would be approaching the board to resolve the Embargo.
Have we heard anything yet???? living over here I get most info but not all.
As I said in post earlier to come back and get a 2.-2 draw aint the end of the world,now we have another injury hope navaro will get over it asap

Mediterranean wrote:
Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era.....

"Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son."

"Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON"

"the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2."

"So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning."

"I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic.

DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"
!!!

"Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench.
Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us,
-
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

"I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint.
You seem to do everything other than ,
TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES.
-
People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces.
-
Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary."

AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT?

"I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy.

We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all.

But, and its a massive but, if we bring
someone in who can:

1 - Motivate
2 - Inspire
3 - Give Courage
4 - Give Desire
5 - Show Passion.

Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....."

SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

Blimey are you LR IN Disguise?think that hot Med Weather got to your head!LOL!!!!!!!!!!

madterrier wrote:
Glad to see us at the end playing 4-3-3 finally, although the players that would best suit this formation would be three of Ritchie, Roberts, Collins, Williams as the front three. That's three strung across the top - not necessarily two wingers. I don't see either Ritchie or Roberts as put and out wingers anyway. It would also suit Bostock better. Yesterday when he played as second striker off Benson it didn't really work. Benson won a lot of intelligent headers and found a Swindon player constantly. But he doesn't have the pace and needs to play as one of a partnership of two, imho. Coventry looked a decent side, and we paid them too much respect. Thought McGoldrick was class and easily MOM. But they weren't that special. As Darren said, we didn't get going until the last 20 minutes after the disallowed goal. Ritchie was marked out of the game again. Teams took Chesterfield's cue and know how to nullify the threat. While Thompson has played well defensively, there is no real understanding there with Ritchie (yet), and without Caddis (and Ferry, working that triangle), Ritchie often looks a shadow of his former self. Always going to score goals though. We, i.e. Paolo, needs to find a way to get the best out of our best player. Fed up with the post-match rants. Totally agree with Steve. You don't treat your people that way, especially the decent ones. It is THEY who will bring YOU the success you crave as a manager. As to the threats to the board, what is he expecting them to do exactly? We would have to offload quite a few players to free up anything like the money needed to loan or sign just one top player. Paolo has spent on this squad to take us up to the limit. Is he expecting the board to now do something irregular to get round it, like put more of their own money in through pseudo and massive sponsorship deals from board members' companies? (like Man City) What is he expecting them to do, precisely? I'm all for income and wage caps - the only way to restore some sanity to the mad world of modern football, and make it more competitive. Managers, including Paolo, are going to have to learn to live with that, because UEFA is driving that agenda and even our plodders at the FA/FL/PL are going to have to grasp it.

We only played 4.3.3 because we were 2.0 down and then we only changed that with 20 min left....
Not rocket science was it ??

Mediterranean wrote:
Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era.....

"Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son."

"Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON"

"the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2."

"So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning."

"I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic.

DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"
!!!

"Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench.
Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us,
-
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

"I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint.
You seem to do everything other than ,
TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES.
-
People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces.
-
Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary."

AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT?

"I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy.

We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all.

But, and its a massive but, if we bring
someone in who can:

1 - Motivate
2 - Inspire
3 - Give Courage
4 - Give Desire
5 - Show Passion.

Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....."

SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

No, you get a grip and realise that you don't have to kiss PdC's arse and forgive everything carte blanche to be a Swindon supporter. The fans on here holding him to account for his despicable comments after the game yesterday are bigger fans than him as we've been supporting the club for decades not months. I still back PdC but we can't shy away from highlighting his lack of regard for his collegues.

stfc2012 wrote:
Bostok got stick for no reason. Created a few chances and did well for a player not getting regular game time. Can't judge on the odd game. Well you can but that makes you a clown. If he had been the most forward player in a diamond then I believe this would have suited him and us more. Roberts did well in the position and Navarro did well in front of the defence. Paolo's change of shape worked however his antics are sadly the same. Humiliating Benson post game served no purpose. Kicking the dug out. Screaming up towards the board members. I love a bit of passion but this is an embarrassment for the club. Paolo has a great win record as he pointed out earlier in the week. Unfortunately his man management methods and treatment of players is not professional. Last season he spoke of Benson's quality and ability to play up higher divisions for a few seasons to come. Anyway, Leon Clarke returns soon. Should spice it up a bit.

Agree about Bostock, I did not think he played very well, but he was playing as a striker not in his normal position, Plus he hasnt played many minutes so would be harsh to judge him on just 1 game, Well as for Di Canio i think he is right, Benson in my view is getting old and is not cut out for league 1, I think his treatment is harsh at times but they are footballers and they need to be told the truth. Yes Leon Clarke back and also Dave Prutton, Mike Grella and Callum Kennedy as well.

Mediterranean wrote:
Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era.....

"Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son."

"Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON"

"the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2."

"So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning."

"I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic.

DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"
!!!

"Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench.
Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us,
-
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

"I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint.
You seem to do everything other than ,
TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES.
-
People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces.
-
Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary."

AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT?

"I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy.

We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all.

But, and its a massive but, if we bring
someone in who can:

1 - Motivate
2 - Inspire
3 - Give Courage
4 - Give Desire
5 - Show Passion.

Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....."

SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

....and your point is?
---.
Being honest I thought Wilson had gone but if not I agree with every word!!
...
I think!? :-)

Interesting posts and opinions. I always thought we would get something out of the game even when we went 2 down. What a shame Ritchie's header didn't go in at the start of the match, it would have been a very different game I'm sure. Although I don't rate Ward highly I thought we looked more secure with Flint/Ward as a tall combination at the back. I'd prefer to see Troy given a run with Flint as a centre back pairing - I know Troy had a 'mare last game but he is better than that and he is young and still developing. I'd like to see Macca in midfield with Ferry - Miller has seen better days and I don't rate Navarro. It was good to see Bostock back, although he was frustrating at times, he gives us much more creativity, speed when running with the ball and can do the unexpected. Gary Roberts might have scored but I remain completely unconvinced by him, he couldn't tackle his way out of a paper bag. He has skill but lacks the speed to get away from players after he has beaten them. Although a Ferry fan I thought he was poor yesterday, strange that he gets subbed when he is doing a great job and left on when he is having a poor game by his standards. Paul Benson ran his heart out, couldn't believe PdC's attack on him, fully agree with all the comments about man management etc. Ritchie struggles without the old Ferry/Caddis combination to draw players away from him, he hasn't got the speed to get away from his markers and he can easily be taken out of the game. McEveley was so stupid to get booked yet again for childish petulance - it could cost us dearly one day unless he learns to accept decisions and just get on with it. Nathan T did pretty well yesterday, definitely worth his place in the team. I do wish we didn't keep going for the long high ball, surely our players are better than that? Much better performance than Colchester or Orient but still got a long way to go.

southside7 wrote:

Mediterranean wrote: Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era..... "Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son." "Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON" "the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2." "So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning." "I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic. DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " !!! "Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench. Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us, - YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING" "I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint. You seem to do everything other than , TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES. - People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces. - Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary." AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT? "I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy. We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all. But, and its a massive but, if we bring someone in who can: 1 - Motivate 2 - Inspire 3 - Give Courage 4 - Give Desire 5 - Show Passion. Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....." SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

No, you get a grip and realise that you don't have to kiss PdC's arse and forgive everything carte blanche to be a Swindon supporter. The fans on here holding him to account for his despicable comments after the game yesterday are bigger fans than him as we've been supporting the club for decades not months. I still back PdC but we can't shy away from highlighting his lack of regard for his collegues.

No we dont have to kiss Di Canios arse but im sorry our fans wanted a strict and passionate manager, He has done that and made our club respectable, In my view he told Benson the truth he is past it for League One and he cant play many games anymore, Yes he played well yesterday but we have better strikers then benson, In my view Di Canio is the boss and can say what on earth he likes plenty of bosses do that in the world. I will always back him as its got us results.

As for the Danny Wilson era, He did ok for one season and then the year we got relegated was awful, I will give him a good reception when he returns as i think he is a nice person and he he had the dignity to resign and give someone else a chance to keep us up, And if you look at Him since he been at Sheffield United he has done a good job and mainly where he has been he has done well. I will always blame Paul Hart for our relegation as he had plenty of time to save us but didnt, I just felt wilson was a soft touch and let the players get away with things, Di Canio doesnt and if they dont do what he wants your out, well thats a good think just look at the ones he kicked out Leon Clarke bad attitude, Medhi Kerrouche good player didnt want to work hard and wanted to be lazy, Esajas was the same as kerrouche even when he was injured, Caddis big ego wrong attitude.

He has done a brilliant job since he has been here, so all the fans who criticise him why dont you stop. i really dont know who you would want if di canio went, as i wouldnt have anyone on the market so far.

Wiz to be honest I don't care what you did in your career and you are not the be all and end all of man management and motivation
.
You haven't worked in every single field so can't comment on what they are all like - that was my point what works in an office is different to a warehouse etc so I can't say we do this you should too
.
I can tell you one thing not one single poster on here has spent the last 25 odd years in a professional football dressing room so dont know what they are really like and how they work
.
PdC on the otherhand has!!!!!
.
He has worked under a variety of managers and with a variety of players to know what has been good and what hasn't and is applying that on his team
.
So if he thinks this is the best way to do things from his experience that is his prerogative and you, I or anyone on here doesnt have the right to say he is wrong
.
If it is wrong it is obvious as AVB at Chelsea showed!
.
Now if you don't like it that fine - no one says you have to and you can say I personally don't think he should say x y or z - but you can't assume it is affecting the players as it would you - ala the McEveley quote
.
We have players queuing up to come here and we have an unbelievable record so it must be working
.
As for if they went to JW they would never play again - is that the point as they wouldn't want to and would want out - ala Caddis!!!!!

stfc2011 wrote:

southside7 wrote:

Mediterranean wrote: Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era..... "Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son." "Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON" "the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2." "So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning." "I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic. DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " !!! "Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench. Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us, - YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING" "I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint. You seem to do everything other than , TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES. - People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces. - Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary." AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT? "I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy. We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all. But, and its a massive but, if we bring someone in who can: 1 - Motivate 2 - Inspire 3 - Give Courage 4 - Give Desire 5 - Show Passion. Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....." SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

No, you get a grip and realise that you don't have to kiss PdC's arse and forgive everything carte blanche to be a Swindon supporter. The fans on here holding him to account for his despicable comments after the game yesterday are bigger fans than him as we've been supporting the club for decades not months. I still back PdC but we can't shy away from highlighting his lack of regard for his collegues.

No we dont have to kiss Di Canios arse but im sorry our fans wanted a strict and passionate manager, He has done that and made our club respectable, In my view he told Benson the truth he is past it for League One and he cant play many games anymore, Yes he played well yesterday but we have better strikers then benson, In my view Di Canio is the boss and can say what on earth he likes plenty of bosses do that in the world. I will always back him as its got us results.

As for the Danny Wilson era, He did ok for one season and then the year we got relegated was awful, I will give him a good reception when he returns as i think he is a nice person and he he had the dignity to resign and give someone else a chance to keep us up, And if you look at Him since he been at Sheffield United he has done a good job and mainly where he has been he has done well. I will always blame Paul Hart for our relegation as he had plenty of time to save us but didnt, I just felt wilson was a soft touch and let the players get away with things, Di Canio doesnt and if they dont do what he wants your out, well thats a good think just look at the ones he kicked out Leon Clarke bad attitude, Medhi Kerrouche good player didnt want to work hard and wanted to be lazy, Esajas was the same as kerrouche even when he was injured, Caddis big ego wrong attitude.

He has done a brilliant job since he has been here, so all the fans who criticise him why dont you stop. i really dont know who you would want if di canio went, as i wouldnt have anyone on the market so far.

Fatty Evans then we could agree that the manager is shanker

I’m a bit worried Bostock isn’t settling. He has enormous potential but needs an extended run in the side to settle. As for Benson, yes he is old and coming to the end of his career but he gives 100% and deserves some respect from Di Canio,

Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!"

Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Malkym wrote:
Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!"

Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Hi malkym yep spot on i dont agree with everything PDC says but why are so many of our fans like a woman always wanting us to be like someone else .....no? must be just mine then .Isee that fleck is ok then but some off the city fans were attacked after the game ,hope it wasnt the ones having a go at Pdc ...oh no they were town fans

jayden wrote:

Malkym wrote: Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!" Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Hi malkym yep spot on i dont agree with everything PDC says but why are so many of our fans like a woman always wanting us to be like someone else .....no? must be just mine then .Isee that fleck is ok then but some off the city fans were attacked after the game ,hope it wasnt the ones having a go at Pdc ...oh no they were town fans

Not suprised most of them were gobby twatts..
I hope the one in the cream jumper got a slap as he was doing my head in !!!! AND I WAS IN THE TOWNEND

London Red wrote:
Wiz to be honest I don't care what you did in your career and you are not the be all and end all of man management and motivation
.
You haven't worked in every single field so can't comment on what they are all like - that was my point what works in an office is different to a warehouse etc so I can't say we do this you should too
.
I can tell you one thing not one single poster on here has spent the last 25 odd years in a professional football dressing room so dont know what they are really like and how they work
.
PdC on the otherhand has!!!!!
.
He has worked under a variety of managers and with a variety of players to know what has been good and what hasn't and is applying that on his team
.
So if he thinks this is the best way to do things from his experience that is his prerogative and you, I or anyone on here doesnt have the right to say he is wrong
.
If it is wrong it is obvious as AVB at Chelsea showed!
.
Now if you don't like it that fine - no one says you have to and you can say I personally don't think he should say x y or z - but you can't assume it is affecting the players as it would you - ala the McEveley quote
.
We have players queuing up to come here and we have an unbelievable record so it must be working
.
As for if they went to JW they would never play again - is that the point as they wouldn't want to and would want out - ala Caddis!!!!!

LR,

Read my post again, I was drawing comparisons. At no point did I say I had been in soccer, and as goes Jay Macca, I can't recall mentioning him!! so what is all that about.

I may not have played soccer, but I have worked for over 40 years in different industries, and perhaps I haven't managed players, but I've managed MEN from many different backgrounds , colours, creeds, beliefs, not for one season, but 20 odd, with all sorts of trades and disciplines, and probably have seen more joy, more grief,more success, and more defeat than most would want too. Players queuing up to come here. ok , maybe, care to name some

Some things, yes, he does well, but his PR is carp and most here agree on that and that was the object of the debate, if you didn't notice. I remind you again, I was drawing comparisons, and if you are not happy with that then TOUGH. You talk down to folk as if they are something off the bottom of your self-righteous -shoe. You refused to accept that we were going down when the ship had already sank, for the sake of our Lord, you are an intelligent bloke, just wind it in and look at the subject in isolation. Does your boss publicly condemn you if you scuff up, I doubt it.

Mediterranean wrote:
Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era.....

"Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son."

"Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON"

"the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2."

"So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning."

"I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic.

DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"
!!!

"Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench.
Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us,
-
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING"

"I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint.
You seem to do everything other than ,
TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES.
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People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces.
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Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary."

AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT?

"I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy.

We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all.

But, and its a massive but, if we bring
someone in who can:

1 - Motivate
2 - Inspire
3 - Give Courage
4 - Give Desire
5 - Show Passion.

Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....."

SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

So, you didn't really say anything then? Clown

the wizard wrote:

London Red wrote: Wiz to be honest I don't care what you did in your career and you are not the be all and end all of man management and motivation . You haven't worked in every single field so can't comment on what they are all like - that was my point what works in an office is different to a warehouse etc so I can't say we do this you should too . I can tell you one thing not one single poster on here has spent the last 25 odd years in a professional football dressing room so dont know what they are really like and how they work . PdC on the otherhand has!!!!! . He has worked under a variety of managers and with a variety of players to know what has been good and what hasn't and is applying that on his team . So if he thinks this is the best way to do things from his experience that is his prerogative and you, I or anyone on here doesnt have the right to say he is wrong . If it is wrong it is obvious as AVB at Chelsea showed! . Now if you don't like it that fine - no one says you have to and you can say I personally don't think he should say x y or z - but you can't assume it is affecting the players as it would you - ala the McEveley quote . We have players queuing up to come here and we have an unbelievable record so it must be working . As for if they went to JW they would never play again - is that the point as they wouldn't want to and would want out - ala Caddis!!!!!

LR, Read my post again, I was drawing comparisons. At no point did I say I had been in soccer, and as goes Jay Macca, I can't recall mentioning him!! so what is all that about. I may not have played soccer, but I have worked for over 40 years in different industries, and perhaps I haven't managed players, but I've managed MEN from many different backgrounds , colours, creeds, beliefs, not for one season, but 20 odd, with all sorts of trades and disciplines, and probably have seen more joy, more grief,more success, and more defeat than most would want too. Players queuing up to come here. ok , maybe, care to name some Some things, yes, he does well, but his PR is carp and most here agree on that and that was the object of the debate, if you didn't notice. I remind you again, I was drawing comparisons, and if you are not happy with that then TOUGH. You talk down to folk as if they are something off the bottom of your self-righteous -shoe. You refused to accept that we were going down when the ship had already sank, for the sake of our Lord, you are an intelligent bloke, just wind it in and look at the subject in isolation. Does your boss publicly condemn you if you scuff up, I doubt it.

Me be thinking L.Red is on the smack again.....
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ps london OR ANYONE went on the official site and i couuld not see the acounts on the history of STFC..
SO Can you please point me in the right direction as i would love to see them and say sorry

Wiz you might want to look in the mirror before laying that out as that description I think a fair few would say described yourself!
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Also what did the hope that the majority of our PO finalist squad would pull off a woeful 5th from bottom finish TWO seasons ago got to do with anything?

Darren,

I don't think he does "substance", in that meaning of the word, but your line, pardon the pun,

Me be thinking L.Red is on the smack again.....

This time of night after a difficult weekend, yeh, it gave me a much needed laugh, sorry LR, but it was a "be there" moment.

Have a good week, both of you.

Darren I have to say since they revamped the website the link I had tto the accounts page has gone and it now only takes you to the home page
.
They were there and I did download a copy when first released - so if you are actually interested - I will post the post balance sheet page tomorrow (as not on my phone) so you can see what was recorded in that net transfer expenditure

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

Malkym wrote: Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!" Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Hi malkym yep spot on i dont agree with everything PDC says but why are so many of our fans like a woman always wanting us to be like someone else .....no? must be just mine then .Isee that fleck is ok then but some off the city fans were attacked after the game ,hope it wasnt the ones having a go at Pdc ...oh no they were town fans

Not suprised most of them were gobby twatts..
I hope the one in the cream jumper got a slap as he was doing my head in !!!! AND I WAS IN THE TOWNEND

The town end were in good voice Darren yesterday a poor turn out by coventry i thought; or did they not fancy the bank.

London Red wrote:
Darren I have to say since they revamped the website the link I had tto the accounts page has gone and it now only takes you to the home page
.
They were there and I did download a copy when first released - so if you are actually interested - I will post the post balance sheet page tomorrow (as not on my phone) so you can see what was recorded in that net transfer expenditure

And a christmas card?

LR,

Sorry, please explain,

Also what did the hope that the majority of our PO finalist squad would pull off a woeful 5th from bottom finish TWO seasons ago got to do with anything?

I don't follow, where did I mention them ?

Darren I have found a link
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http://origin-www.sw
indontownfc.co.uk/st
aticFiles/fb/b6/0,,1
0341~177915,00.pdf
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It's on the last page - I was wrong the releases only go up to Jan - so include Atuki, Amankwaah and Comazzi but not Kerrouhe, Magera and Esajas as those are counted the year after so will be in the post balance sheet section of our L2 accounts
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It does however include the pay-offs to JPM and Lucas - who were pre PdC!

Come on,let's have sing up!

We do want we want,we'll do what we waaaant,

We are Swindon,we'll do what we want!

Yooouu Reds!

Championes(remember)
,championes,

olé olé olé!

D,I Canio, D,I Canio...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=cxcbFFRYK
S8&feature=related

stfc2011 wrote:

southside7 wrote:

Mediterranean wrote: Hi, Stfc fan abroad. I'm f*****g tired to read all these comments on our manager from many so called "supporters". Just to refresh our recent past, read some comments that most of you used to write before the PDC era..... "Stop moaning mr wilson you have had 8 months to sort this mess out told you in august this team is crap we are going down thanks to you and mr fitton you have had your time old son." "Wilson....you never take ANY responsibility for the poor results that have been a regular occurrance. We are sick of hearing more and more drivvell and excuses from you. As things are YOU ARe guiding our beloved club to relegation and its simply not good enough. Get out Wilson ..you are an irresponsible blagger and will cost our club dearly. WAKE UP FITTON" "the table tells you every thing you need to know it does not lie wilsons exscuses week after week , we are going down club being run on a shoe string. no investment now showing wait for it a couple of loan deals THE SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WILL NOT BE ENOUGH good bye league 1 hello league2." "So it wasn't the wind, the referee, the defence or bad luck this time then? This time it was because you haven't a the strike power, is that right Wilson? What excuse are you going to come up with next I wonder, it is embarrassing and tedious listening to your drivel! Can you tell us why you didn't play the young lad from Spurs up front from the start, and play Ritchie on the left wing instead of playing a full back there? And what was that all about bring on subs 2 minutes into the second half? Let me give my opinion why we are going to get relegated; it is because both you and Shirtliff don't know what you are doing, you don't motivate or inspire the players, haven't got a clue about tactics and your substitutions are bizarre to put it mildly, and you don't know how to change things during a match, in short you are an incompetent idiot who has ruined our beloved Swindon Town and shortly you can add your 5th relegation to your CV!!! You are delusional with your pathetic excuses so please go now, the players don't want you and us supporters are starting to dispise you! If you have any dignity left clear your desk and go this morning." "I have just seen Wilson going into the CG witha cardboard box under his arm.... Is he going in to clean out his desk.......No... Hang on, that's just the box carrying his book of excuses... Pathetic. DW OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " !!! "Wilson you have become a joke and you have lost our respect, how many more "types of player" do you want ? You got yourself a striker, so you put him on the bench. You don't start your strongest side, you leave half of it, on the bench. You dont put players in their correct positions, you shuffle them like a pack of cards, and then you put a joker on the pitch and leave the Ace, on the bench. Its time for the men in white coats, because it has become very clear to all of us, - YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING" "I have never asked for a Town manager to go, not even MM, and in comparison with you, he was a Saint. You seem to do everything other than , TELL THE TRUTH, WE WERE CRAP, YOU MADE MISTAKES. - People will accept that, but not this stuff you utter in the post match interview, you have lost the team and the public. Don't bother closing the door or turning out the light, we are used to picking up the pieces. - Wilson out .... Macca IN, at least he will restore respect in the players, and pride with the public. Lots of PR rebuilding all round necessary." AND THIS ONE SUMS EVERYTHING, DOESN'IT? "I am so cheesed off with snapping at everyone cos i feel so hurt by Andy. We are going down that is a fact......so whether we change managers or not at this stage means fu*k all. But, and its a massive but, if we bring someone in who can: 1 - Motivate 2 - Inspire 3 - Give Courage 4 - Give Desire 5 - Show Passion. Then we just may and i mean just may have a chance of staying in this league....." SO, NOW EVERYONE GET A GRIP AND STAY BEHIND PDC AND THE TEAM!!

No, you get a grip and realise that you don't have to kiss PdC's arse and forgive everything carte blanche to be a Swindon supporter. The fans on here holding him to account for his despicable comments after the game yesterday are bigger fans than him as we've been supporting the club for decades not months. I still back PdC but we can't shy away from highlighting his lack of regard for his collegues.

No we dont have to kiss Di Canios arse but im sorry our fans wanted a strict and passionate manager, He has done that and made our club respectable, In my view he told Benson the truth he is past it for League One and he cant play many games anymore, Yes he played well yesterday but we have better strikers then benson, In my view Di Canio is the boss and can say what on earth he likes plenty of bosses do that in the world. I will always back him as its got us results.

As for the Danny Wilson era, He did ok for one season and then the year we got relegated was awful, I will give him a good reception when he returns as i think he is a nice person and he he had the dignity to resign and give someone else a chance to keep us up, And if you look at Him since he been at Sheffield United he has done a good job and mainly where he has been he has done well. I will always blame Paul Hart for our relegation as he had plenty of time to save us but didnt, I just felt wilson was a soft touch and let the players get away with things, Di Canio doesnt and if they dont do what he wants your out, well thats a good think just look at the ones he kicked out Leon Clarke bad attitude, Medhi Kerrouche good player didnt want to work hard and wanted to be lazy, Esajas was the same as kerrouche even when he was injured, Caddis big ego wrong attitude.

He has done a brilliant job since he has been here, so all the fans who criticise him why dont you stop. i really dont know who you would want if di canio went, as i wouldnt have anyone on the market so far.

Passionate - great. Strict - great. Continually humiliating players in public and threatening to resign (as if he is bigger than the club) - completely out of order.
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And blaming Hart - or anyone else who might have been unlucky enough to inherit that shower of sh1t - for our relegation is absurd. When Wilson was sacked, we had taken 3 points from 33. How was anyone supposed to turn that around? I can't help concluding that if PDC had taken over instead of Hart did, you would now be blaming him for our relegation. No? You think PDC would have kept us up? If so, why did he sack most of the rabble as soon as he could?

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

Malkym wrote: Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!" Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Hi malkym yep spot on i dont agree with everything PDC says but why are so many of our fans like a woman always wanting us to be like someone else .....no? must be just mine then .Isee that fleck is ok then but some off the city fans were attacked after the game ,hope it wasnt the ones having a go at Pdc ...oh no they were town fans

Not suprised most of them were gobby twatts.. I hope the one in the cream jumper got a slap as he was doing my head in !!!! AND I WAS IN THE TOWNEND

The town end were in good voice Darren yesterday a poor turn out by coventry i thought; or did they not fancy the bank.

Yes WE were but not at the same time...
When we were 2.0 down i thought the hole crowd did a very good job getting behind the team.....
NOT BAD FOR FANS THAT ONLY MOAN WAS IT
Yes Very poor turnout by coventry which suprised me but away days do come at a cost....
How do you think we played yesterday jay?

Sorry - ignore the "did" after Hart. Bit of a garbled post.

Well, with the weekend all but over maybe time for a bit of reflection.

We conceded two early goals, we took off a top man. We went on and changed shape, and perhaps tactics and our luck changed with it. We scored two fine goals and were unlucky not to score more. Roberts got his first and another for Collins. Indeed had the weekend finished there most would have been happy, and talked a lot about all the positives the last 20 minutes brought with them. A good call by the manager who had an eye for what was needed, Plan B.

Sadly controversy is never far away and all the good of the team performance was forgotten by the utterance of a sentence in public by the manager. After being criticised for exactly the same before, the name and shame culture of this man continues, something which may be common place in Italy but is rejected here. Instead of more supporters enjoying the performance of the team on the pitch, more has been said about his words which came after. Instead of endearing support, he has caused some to be deeply dis satisfied. What a massive shame after the efforts of the team, which were all things good in the last 20 minutes, undone in a second. With the team not at its peak a shrewd operator would be looking to get people behind him.

Nick1234 wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

bongiaz wrote:

YateleyRed wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
“Probably it is a big, big problem. What do you want to do? You want to go 32 times in the box and not score. Is that the manager’s fault.

Yes. You buy and manage the players, you pick the team. It is your fault.

But he is not the one out there who cannot put the ball in the net despite numerous chances.

How can it be the managers fault Nick! I bet you Paulo would not have missed the chances our boys had today.

LEAGA 1 LEAGA 1 NOT BARCELONA NOT CHAMPION LEAG, LEAGA 1

PS Paulo might of missed them but Paolo would of netted a few but then again as he told us thisa LEAGA1, he cant expect our players to be on par with what he done if they were then i'm afraid they wouldn't be with us in ummmm LEAGA 1.

It is PDC's fault because he is responsible for buying, coaching and picking players who cannot put the ball in the net. He has had a huge budget, he should have bought better - that is the job of the manager!

Sorry dont agree, he bought two of the best strikers in Williams and Collins and I bet most teams would want these two. A bit of patience with both..wait and see!

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jayden wrote:

Malkym wrote: Had to laugh travelling back from Wales this afternoon -listening to Talksport -couldn't tell you the guy's name but as soon as I switched on I heard him say " I was asked what I'm doing for two hours on here -he said -I'm listening to football fans moan, because that's what football fans do -they moan don't they!" Having trawled through all of the above posts to gauge the reaction to yesterday's result I have to say it's hard to disagree lol!!

Hi malkym yep spot on i dont agree with everything PDC says but why are so many of our fans like a woman always wanting us to be like someone else .....no? must be just mine then .Isee that fleck is ok then but some off the city fans were attacked after the game ,hope it wasnt the ones having a go at Pdc ...oh no they were town fans

Not suprised most of them were gobby twatts.. I hope the one in the cream jumper got a slap as he was doing my head in !!!! AND I WAS IN THE TOWNEND

The town end were in good voice Darren yesterday a poor turn out by coventry i thought; or did they not fancy the bank.

Yes WE were but not at the same time...
When we were 2.0 down i thought the hole crowd did a very good job getting behind the team.....
NOT BAD FOR FANS THAT ONLY MOAN WAS IT
Yes Very poor turnout by coventry which suprised me but away days do come at a cost....
How do you think we played yesterday jay?

The first 10 mins not bad after that very poor then the last 15 were good but on the whole not that good.At half time i was wondering what the hell i was doing their and was not looking foward to the second half thinking i should have worked instead.