I'm a better boss - Paolo (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

Message clear, Paolo knows best.

Message clear..
ITS ALL ABOUT ME ???

He is the manager and he is still learning - why shouldn't he say what he wants in public - the players know him and what he is really saying - I doubt they read the re-written and re-worded pumped up articles in the press. They use his words but apply a different meaning to them - when he say's a player was rubbish/unprofession
al he means in the moment the press then blow that up out of all proportion.
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Yes he does need to reign it in a little but he is who he is and he will develop over time.
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More importantly the players know they are learning from one of the best players to have never played for his country.
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Leave him to do his job and trust in the man - We'll be climbing the league again very soon!

If Paolo really wants to get the best out his players, he could do with applying a little bit more "arm round the shoulder", like Harry Redknapp. I get the impression it is all stick and no carrot with Paolo, not the ideal way to manage a group of diverse characters.

Nick perhaps you should read thw Andy Williams article. Very 'arm round the shoulder.'

Nick1234 wrote:
If Paolo really wants to get the best out his players, he could do with applying a little bit more "arm round the shoulder", like Harry Redknapp. I get the impression it is all stick and no carrot with Paolo, not the ideal way to manage a group of diverse characters.

To be fair none of us know what goes on in training - I certainly don't believe he is always giving them an ear bashing - a hard task master!?..without doubt, but insensitive!?...nope don't believe that at all - Caddis pushed his luck for too long, according to club sources, so he's out - My way or highway isn't necessarily a stick without a carrot.
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On the contrary - where they play well and work hard they get extra time out, touble is all too often they lose the next game.
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All this talk of arms round shoulders etc. - They're grown men!!..don't pamper them, treat them like men and keep pushing them to improve.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

Nick1234 wrote: If Paolo really wants to get the best out his players, he could do with applying a little bit more "arm round the shoulder", like Harry Redknapp. I get the impression it is all stick and no carrot with Paolo, not the ideal way to manage a group of diverse characters.

To be fair none of us know what goes on in training - I certainly don't believe he is always giving them an ear bashing - a hard task master!?..without doubt, but insensitive!?...nope don't believe that at all - Caddis pushed his luck for too long, according to club sources, so he's out - My way or highway isn't necessarily a stick without a carrot. -- On the contrary - where they play well and work hard they get extra time out, touble is all too often they lose the next game. --- All this talk of arms round shoulders etc. - They're grown men!!..don't pamper them, treat them like men and keep pushing them to improve.

Agree SAP. How many people on here actually go and watch them train. I've done it quite a few times (taken the boys and have a kick around must add) and all I've ever seen is a very clam PDC and coaching team, talking 1-2-1s on occassion in an arm round fashion, and a very enthusiasic group of players training as a unit.
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That said I can quite easily see how PDC comes across as very stick.

Maybe he is better, maybe he has taken 20 steps forward, but, every now and again the moment gets the better of him and he takes a few steps back.

Rather surprised that if his method is so good others haven't adopted it.. One of the best managers we have ever seen in this country was the great Brian Clough, outspoken, a maverick but hugely successful in his hey day, but somehow I can't remember him openly chastising players in public, or use media as a means to do it.

Perhaps PDC is better, until the next hothead moment, we will see.

Carlisle tomorrow and hopefully a point or three, a solid performance and one point would be a good step in the right direction, three points would be amazing.

He is the General,he says what he wants!

Benzel wrote:
Nick perhaps you should read thw Andy Williams article. Very 'arm round the shoulder.'

Try also reading the TAH interview Nick, the one where he states that he wanted to thank the manager for the way in which he spoke to him and encouraged him through his injury period, something that TAH has never experienced when injured under other coaches?
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PDC cannot win, he gets slated for publicly highlighting individual errors of his team, yet when he does an interview based on his own progress and development, he gets slated for it all being about 'PDC'!!
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As for what goes on inside the 4 walls of the county ground, who's to say he does not encourage, does not take people to one side and put an arm around them? Unfortunately, that kind of managerial move is never going to make sensasionalist media headlines is it?
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I reckon we'll be top 3 by Christmas.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

Nick1234 wrote: If Paolo really wants to get the best out his players, he could do with applying a little bit more "arm round the shoulder", like Harry Redknapp. I get the impression it is all stick and no carrot with Paolo, not the ideal way to manage a group of diverse characters.

To be fair none of us know what goes on in training - I certainly don't believe he is always giving them an ear bashing - a hard task master!?..without doubt, but insensitive!?...nope don't believe that at all - Caddis pushed his luck for too long, according to club sources, so he's out - My way or highway isn't necessarily a stick without a carrot. -- On the contrary - where they play well and work hard they get extra time out, touble is all too often they lose the next game. --- All this talk of arms round shoulders etc. - They're grown men!!..don't pamper them, treat them like men and keep pushing them to improve.

100% spot on - there's too many pampered primadonnas out there already, not the sort of players we need for the fight we'll have this season. Do you really want any of our lot giving an interview after the game telling the press they are "sad" a la Ronaldo?

Grown men, professionals, earn good money, if they screw up, maybe they need a kick up the arse, nothing personal, but just firmly pointing out what's gone wrong. Wrapping them in cotton wool's no good for them, the manager, or the club.

One of the lessons from that great American author, businessman and motivational speaker, Stephen Covey, come to mind...

'Your actions speak so loudly, I cannot hear your words'

Kick up the arse behind closed doors, yes - I'm all for that. Public flogging, no - it is not the right way to manage people. Do all those who agree with it also think it would be right for Jeremy Wray to come out and kick PDC's arse in public every time he makes a mistake? I suspect not. One rule for PDC, another one for everyone else.

red white wrote:
He is the General,he says what he wants!

Well he better start winning Football matches again then!or field-marshal J-Wray will put him on a court marshal charge of dereliction of duty,because in his last three battles,we've been outgunned,outflanked and out maneuvered,in fact we never turned up on the battlefield!LOL!!!!!
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Oi Den! wrote:
Kick up the arse behind closed doors, yes - I'm all for that. Public flogging, no - it is not the right way to manage people. Do all those who agree with it also think it would be right for Jeremy Wray to come out and kick PDC's arse in public every time he makes a mistake? I suspect not. One rule for PDC, another one for everyone else.

Agree with the first part, not in favour of public flogging at all.

Would it be right for J Wray to kick PDC's arse in public? I don't think it would be right as per above but it would be interesting to see what happened and I wouldn't rule it out at some point.

Would Paolo take the point on board, apologise and knuckle down to improve, a la Wes? You know I think he would, if on reflection he had accepted he was in the wrong.

Paolo gave Wes his chance, and likewise J Wray gave Paolo his chance, both Paolo and Wes are in better positions than they would have been without those chances, so despite any histrionics there has to be some respect.

Some very good points today on the style of management.
Di Canio should remember the quote "Self praise is no recommendation"
The next 3 games are difficult in their own way so hoping the team can progress in those games.A draw at Carlisle would be a good start.














good luck to th

All too easy to pick holes, and ignore the positive comments coming out of the club about the manager.

People should also read the interview in the Daily Mail - I put a link up yesterday
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It clearly says he is trying to position himself between Capello and Redknapp to get the best out of the players
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What people seem to keep MISSING - is the repeated statment - I KNOW MY PLAYERS - PdC is clearly taking certain approaches with certain players as he thinks this is how they will respond best - Flint, Wes, Troy and Willams prime examples
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Now if he thinks Wes is big enough and man enough totake a public bashing for his actions - so what!
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Wes came out apologised and is still number 1 - so despite the media and the anti PdC brigade to make it into an issue - it never actually was to the people who matter the most - PdC and Wes!
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If Joe Public or Rio think its is wrong - who actually cares! PdC doesn't - as he said Rio should worry about himslef as he has seen him more on twitter than on the pitch!
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As for JW he has given PdC a few tellings off - OK these have not been in public but he has said in public he has had words with PdC about certain things
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He also said in public that PdC needs to improve on certain aspects - like man management
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But always backs it up with he is still a rookie and is still learning
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To me that is exactly the same as what PdC has done with the likes of Wes and Flint - just in JW's case it was more diplomatic English stiff upper lift style compared to PdC hot blooded Italian style
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Strip them down though and they are the same point underneath!
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I personally think people should focus more on the underlying message - as if they did then all the "incidents" we have seen PdC is usually right
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For example in the Wes case you could see hear how much it pained Claridge to admit it - he said blaming others for your errors was wrong and it needed addressing - which was the bottom line of PdC actions

Avo, it's not a question of ignoring the positive aspects. I just have a concern that all PDC's good work can be undone by his indiscreet public comments.
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Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick here but I read these comments from PDC as saying that he's still trying to convert some of the players to his philosophies. I hope he succeeds with all of them but I have the feeling we've not seen the last of the public disagreements and sharp exits.

The thing is with behaviour, its all about perception and interpretation.

Different people perceive behaviour as acceptable or not, and that is their interpretation. As we grow older our standards probably rise, and what we saw as ok in our twenties through to our late forties, and into the mellowing years, seems less so, as we become less cavalier ourselves. We have that as our experience in life, as life has taught us so, and for somebody like PDC who sets himself up as a flag bearer for right and wrong etc, he also makes a rod for his own back.
Would PdC agree with PdC the player as the behaviour being acceptable. Sitting down in the penalty area and demanding to be subbed because a penalty appeal went against him. He was also known not to turn up for some away games, so because he did that as a player and was acceptable to him then, would that behaviour be acceptable to him now, as he had such high standards as a player ????? Kettle, pot, black comes to mind. Maybe he is like an old dog, they have selective hearing, seems PDC suffers from selective memory.

Onward to Carlisle, and lets go back to winning ways.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

Nick1234 wrote:
If Paolo really wants to get the best out his players, he could do with applying a little bit more "arm round the shoulder", like Harry Redknapp. I get the impression it is all stick and no carrot with Paolo, not the ideal way to manage a group of diverse characters.

To be fair none of us know what goes on in training - I certainly don't believe he is always giving them an ear bashing - a hard task master!?..without doubt, but insensitive!?...nope don't believe that at all - Caddis pushed his luck for too long, according to club sources, so he's out - My way or highway isn't necessarily a stick without a carrot.
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On the contrary - where they play well and work hard they get extra time out, touble is all too often they lose the next game.
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All this talk of arms round shoulders etc. - They're grown men!!..don't pamper them, treat them like men and keep pushing them to improve.

agree saPf he kicks them up the jacksee when he's happy. When he puts his arms around you beware in the tunnel ala Clarke.
Onwards and upwards
Hope we get 50 post after the game and not 200

read this good PDC sets out his future plans he intends to manage England in the World Cup Final - but will be at STFC for another 2/3 years http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2200435/Pa
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ob-crazy-beautiful-t
oo.html

Interesting in the carlise news and star cadamatteri and Abbott are Saying about the di canio circus coming to town.
I see fire in paolos belly
Onwards and upwards

The last time someone said that we came back with a 3-0 win!

London Red wrote:
The last time someone said that we came back with a 3-0 win!

Would take the same again.

Anyway we are no longer a circus, more a west end show.

mrclick wrote:
read this good PDC sets out his future plans he intends to manage England in the World Cup Final - but will be at STFC for another 2/3 years http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2200435/Pa

olo-Di-Canio-Doing-j

ob-crazy-beautiful-t

oo.html

2 or 3 more years here - then the premier league? Fingers crossed we are in the prem in 2 or 3 years then !! :P

smirg kcab wrote:
Interesting in the carlise news and star cadamatteri and Abbott are Saying about the di canio circus coming to town.
I see fire in paolos belly
Onwards and upwards

Didn't see that article grim, but went on their forum and their not very complimentry to PdC, One said there is only one person he hates more than PdC and that's Blatter, another said he needs to throw away his khaki coat and beanie hat. All said they are going to give paolo stick from their Paddock end. Hope we get a decent ref by way of a change.

Think Gregg Abbott has his own problems to worry about before taking the p1ss out of paolo, one suspension and several injuries including their first choice goalie.

McGovern is expected to start though so hope this won't be another old boy having a good day against us..

Oi Den! wrote:
Avo, it's not a question of ignoring the positive aspects. I just have a concern that all PDC's good work can be undone by his indiscreet public comments. . Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick here but I read these comments from PDC as saying that he's still trying to convert some of the players to his philosophies. I hope he succeeds with all of them but I have the feeling we've not seen the last of the public disagreements and sharp exits.

I agree, I don't think we've seen the last of such instances, but so far have to say that I back the manager, not the player.

the wizard wrote:
The thing is with behaviour, its all about perception and interpretation.

Different people perceive behaviour as acceptable or not, and that is their interpretation. As we grow older our standards probably rise, and what we saw as ok in our twenties through to our late forties, and into the mellowing years, seems less so, as we become less cavalier ourselves. We have that as our experience in life, as life has taught us so, and for somebody like PDC who sets himself up as a flag bearer for right and wrong etc, he also makes a rod for his own back.
Would PdC agree with PdC the player as the behaviour being acceptable. Sitting down in the penalty area and demanding to be subbed because a penalty appeal went against him. He was also known not to turn up for some away games, so because he did that as a player and was acceptable to him then, would that behaviour be acceptable to him now, as he had such high standards as a player ????? Kettle, pot, black comes to mind. Maybe he is like an old dog, they have selective hearing, seems PDC suffers from selective memory.

Onward to Carlisle, and lets go back to winning ways.

Very well written and spot on.i recently read his autobiography and he hasnt changed either as player or managerThe introduction to the book reads
Paolo Di Canio is a player who doesn’t recognise the footballer’s code of conduct: he says what he thinks and heaven help the person who has crossed him. That’s the root of his troubles as well, of course.

Thanks again for your interesting comments

old town robin wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Interesting in the carlise news and star cadamatteri and Abbott are Saying about the di canio circus coming to town.
I see fire in paolos belly
Onwards and upwards

Didn't see that article grim, but went on their forum and their not very complimentry to PdC, One said there is only one person he hates more than PdC and that's Blatter, another said he needs to throw away his khaki coat and beanie hat. All said they are going to give paolo stick from their Paddock end. Hope we get a decent ref by way of a change.

Think Gregg Abbott has his own problems to worry about before taking the p1ss out of paolo, one suspension and several injuries including their first choice goalie.

McGovern is expected to start though so hope this won't be another old boy having a good day against us..

I guess he don't know anything about slug Evans then?.
My son works in Leeds and works with sheff we'd/united / Leeds and Bradford fans they just love it on Monday's when he shows them footage of his actions. The united fans wish they had paolo instead of mr foldy arms.
Onwards and upwards

Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey and Paolo Ci Canio

the wizard wrote:
Maybe he is better, maybe he has taken 20 steps forward, but, every now and again the moment gets the better of him and he takes a few steps back. Rather surprised that if his method is so good others haven't adopted it.. One of the best managers we have ever seen in this country was the great Brian Clough, outspoken, a maverick but hugely successful in his hey day, but somehow I can't remember him openly chastising players in public, or use media as a means to do it. Perhaps PDC is better, until the next hothead moment, we will see. Carlisle tomorrow and hopefully a point or three, a solid performance and one point would be a good step in the right direction, three points would be amazing.

Hi Wiz, yes that old Italian temperament does tend to explode like Etna eh on occasions and you do wonder sometimes whether any berating of individual players in public is the best way to approach disputes with players.

I think its fair to say that with the Drinksgate row which involved several players including ironically Flint & Fods, most people backed his stance of publicising why they were out of the team.

Again I believe his highly public latest spat with Wes wasnt too damaging Wes, threw toys out of pram and was given an ultimatum apologise or walk which clearly showed who was boss.

Then there's Clarke, Tehoue, Caddis where the "facts" are more grey? we haven't been privy to all details and there is much speculation as to actually what was said by whom.

Once again SAPF purports to dangle a carrot " Caddis pushed his luck for too long, according to club sources, so he's out" Perhaps you would care your supposed inside knowledge with the rest of the forum as to what extent/in what way Caddis is supposed to have pushed his luck? Or are you as usual going to use your standard get out clause of " cant reveal my sources"

If the latter then we will all have to assume that you are merely speculating and don't know SFA more than anyone else - so please do tell!

Malkym,

I haven't anywhere in by piece above mentioned anything about other instances and have written in comment to the article above and that is all.

PdC says he is now a better boss, then let us give him time to prove that. I don't know anything about Caddis only what has been speculated on here, so "OK lets go start a rumour", not the way to go.
Just when we needed him most, in our worst showing under PdC, by his own admission, Caddis puts in a blinder and gets man of the match. Somehow things don't quite tally up, but pride, oh yes, pride is a hard thing for some to swallow, and it could be interpreted that PdC has found a way around that point for now. For sure with a cool head he is very good, but the Latin in him rises to the top sometimes all too quickly. Until the next explosion he will be a better manager, we will see. Time for4 a cool head.
Looking forward to points on Saturday.

Guess what - The mans not perfect. He took the team, made some players play play a lot better and we won the division as champions. On the way we have some ups and downs. We had a year of not losing at home in the league.
Maybe I am supporting a different team than some of you?

the wizard wrote:
Maybe he is better, maybe he has taken 20 steps forward, but, every now and again the moment gets the better of him and he takes a few steps back.

Rather surprised that if his method is so good others haven't adopted it.. One of the best managers we have ever seen in this country was the great Brian Clough, outspoken, a maverick but hugely successful in his hey day, but somehow I can't remember him openly chastising players in public, or use media as a means to do it.

Perhaps PDC is better, until the next hothead moment, we will see.

Carlisle tomorrow and hopefully a point or three, a solid performance and one point would be a good step in the right direction, three points would be amazing.

Agree entirely and I think (hope) Paolo may be experiencing his own epiphany too, i.e. yes my methods and regime is correct, it will achieve great things.....but, the public executions may be what's spoiling things a little. If he drops this and pulling players off to prove points when he should be waiting until full time to do it, then I think he could be the next Cloughie.

Well then he needs to get a green jersey and a red face and raise his voice and wag his finger saying"young man"

jayden wrote:
Well then he needs to get a green jersey and a red face and raise his voice and wag his finger saying"young man"

And when making up "come 'ere lad an give us a kiss".,

I could never quite work out his buddy Peter Taylor, and they fell out very BIG time, but in a rather ironic twist Cloughie made it right before Taylor died, something which no doubt took a deep breathe and "here goes". A small disagreement which became a storm and then a feud, but it took a man to say, "I'm sorry" . Funny how that key unlocks so many doors.

mrclick wrote:
read this good PDC sets out his future plans he intends to manage England in the World Cup Final - but will be at STFC for another 2/3 years http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2200435/Pa

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ob-crazy-beautiful-t

oo.html

Brilliant article, thanks for the heads up!!

I have to say that there has been really well reasoned arguments on this thread. Pleasure to read guys

the don69 wrote:

red white wrote: He is the General,he says what he wants!

Well he better start winning Football matches again then!or field-marshal J-Wray will put him on a court marshal charge of dereliction of duty,because in his last three battles,we've been outgunned,outflanked and out maneuvered,in fact we never turned up on the battlefield!LOL!!!!! !!!!

Don't panic Captain Mainwaring!!

the wizard wrote:

jayden wrote:
Well then he needs to get a green jersey and a red face and raise his voice and wag his finger saying"young man"

And when making up "come 'ere lad an give us a kiss".,

I could never quite work out his buddy Peter Taylor, and they fell out very BIG time, but in a rather ironic twist Cloughie made it right before Taylor died, something which no doubt took a deep breathe and "here goes". A small disagreement which became a storm and then a feud, but it took a man to say, "I'm sorry" . Funny how that key unlocks so many doors.

It does unlock doors Wiz, you're right and I really hope there's lots of sorrys going on behind closed doors after the heat of the moment. If this manager gets it right, i.e. he f*ckin calms down on the pulling players off the field fiasco then 'this manager' will take us places Hoddle and Gorman only ever dreamed of.

southside7 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

jayden wrote: Well then he needs to get a green jersey and a red face and raise his voice and wag his finger saying"young man"

And when making up "come 'ere lad an give us a kiss"., I could never quite work out his buddy Peter Taylor, and they fell out very BIG time, but in a rather ironic twist Cloughie made it right before Taylor died, something which no doubt took a deep breathe and "here goes". A small disagreement which became a storm and then a feud, but it took a man to say, "I'm sorry" . Funny how that key unlocks so many doors.

It does unlock doors Wiz, you're right and I really hope there's lots of sorrys going on behind closed doors after the heat of the moment. If this manager gets it right, i.e. he f*ckin calms down on the pulling players off the field fiasco then 'this manager' will take us places Hoddle and Gorman only ever dreamed of.

I thought Hoddle got use in2 the premiership ????

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

southside7 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

jayden wrote: Well then he needs to get a green jersey and a red face and raise his voice and wag his finger saying"young man"

And when making up "come 'ere lad an give us a kiss"., I could never quite work out his buddy Peter Taylor, and they fell out very BIG time, but in a rather ironic twist Cloughie made it right before Taylor died, something which no doubt took a deep breathe and "here goes". A small disagreement which became a storm and then a feud, but it took a man to say, "I'm sorry" . Funny how that key unlocks so many doors.

It does unlock doors Wiz, you're right and I really hope there's lots of sorrys going on behind closed doors after the heat of the moment. If this manager gets it right, i.e. he f*ckin calms down on the pulling players off the field fiasco then 'this manager' will take us places Hoddle and Gorman only ever dreamed of.

I thought Hoddle got use in2 the premiership ????

yes, but imagine getting there and conceeding less than 100....we still hold the record

mrclick wrote:
read this good PDC sets out his future plans he intends to manage England in the World Cup Final - but will be at STFC for another 2/3 years http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2200435/Pa olo-Di-Canio-Doing-j ob-crazy-beautiful-t oo.html

..and the follow up articles at the bottom of this article show videos of PDc's best goals for West Ham -Town old boys Jonh Moncur & Neil Ruddock feature and there's THAT goal v Man U. and - "my culture interview" a good read and watch.

Thanks Mr C.

Paolo said 10 years in the prem with STFC in his article. We believe in us....You Reds!

the wizard wrote:
The thing is with behaviour, its all about perception and interpretation.

Different people perceive behaviour as acceptable or not, and that is their interpretation. As we grow older our standards probably rise, and what we saw as ok in our twenties through to our late forties, and into the mellowing years, seems less so, as we become less cavalier ourselves. We have that as our experience in life, as life has taught us so, and for somebody like PDC who sets himself up as a flag bearer for right and wrong etc, he also makes a rod for his own back.
Would PdC agree with PdC the player as the behaviour being acceptable. Sitting down in the penalty area and demanding to be subbed because a penalty appeal went against him. He was also known not to turn up for some away games, so because he did that as a player and was acceptable to him then, would that behaviour be acceptable to him now, as he had such high standards as a player ????? Kettle, pot, black comes to mind. Maybe he is like an old dog, they have selective hearing, seems PDC suffers from selective memory.

Onward to Carlisle, and lets go back to winning ways.

Go and sit on the naughty step.
Read the intro to the autobiography it's only seven pages and sums up the man perfectly and it's why I believe we will be successful. Do you? Or is it better that you keep playing devils advocate on this forum?

No reason to sit on the naughty step at all. PdC is a very complex person who is on the learning curve in his new job as manager. He is learning from his mistakes and has said as much, but most humans own up eventually when they make a mistake, That it seems something he is reluctant to do, He will invariably be successful, but why does he persist in making out that he is perfect when as a player , he clearly at times had his moments. It is highly hypocritical to chastise players in the manner he has, when he was little if no better himself. I thought the sign on his door was manager, the buck stops there. He is clearly finding the new crop of players a bit more of a challenge than the crew we had last season. When we get promoted again, and recruit from above again he will find those players more challenging again, so he will learn a lot from his experience this season. Lets hope he does learn those lessons and that will make him a better manager without doubt, but to blindly just accept every word he says now as gospel leaves a bit to be desired, as he is not as yet the finished article as a manager, and while the public humiliations and tantrums persist you cannot take him totally seriously as being better.

Devils advocate, no, just wise to the ways of the world and some of the attention seekers in it. He will get it right and he will need time, but why make a rod for your own back by giving press statements at such an early point in the season when it is all still to play for. Self belief is one thing and a good thing , but as a manger he has been more than lucky with the backing he has had. Next season will be the tester in the Championship. Between now and then he will learn more than ever before, but those 12 months have yet to pass.

red white wrote:
Paolo said 10 years in the prem with STFC in his article. We believe in us....You Reds!

err don't think he did - read it again "2/3 years with STFC then 10 yrs in the Prem" which doesn't necessarily mean those 10 yrs will be with Town -all somewhat tongue in cheek anyway

Wiz said -. Next season will be the tester in the Championship.

Blo0dy hell Wiz talk about counting chickens!!!

Malkym wrote:
Wiz said -. Next season will be the tester in the Championship.

Blo0dy hell Wiz talk about counting chickens!!!

Well, I think he will do it. I also think it will be a bit squeaky bum, and I don't think it is going to be as easy as amny think.

Whether Canio is right or wrong on his man management I think will be debated for a very long time. We all know he is a firebrand. I don't think he sees that much of any match as he always seems to be explaining to the bench. lol.

However, that said he has amassed a good squad and they should come right, finding the right blend of who plays with who, and the curse of injuries may take a while.

Bumpy ride old buddy, thats what it will be, a very bumpy ride. After all the money Wray has pumped in, and we must be grateful for that, Canio has to deliver, simple as that . Sleepless nights ahead as well.

Crikey the clocks change soon, dark evening games and cold Saturdays, and not too many decent pies to be found, LoL. Caddis will be on soup, and our guys on pasta, I know which one I prefer, but then again, I aint playing out on the park, G'night.

Malkym wrote:
Wiz said -. Next season will be the tester in the Championship.

Blo0dy hell Wiz talk about counting chickens!!!

Let me introduce you to optimism Malky, c'mon try it, it`s quite catchy you know.

the wizard wrote:
No reason to sit on the naughty step at all. PdC is a very complex person who is on the learning curve in his new job as manager. He is learning from his mistakes and has said as much, but most humans own up eventually when they make a mistake, That it seems something he is reluctant to do, He will invariably be successful, but why does he persist in making out that he is perfect when as a player , he clearly at times had his moments. It is highly hypocritical to chastise players in the manner he has, when he was little if no better himself. I thought the sign on his door was manager, the buck stops there. He is clearly finding the new crop of players a bit more of a challenge than the crew we had last season. When we get promoted again, and recruit from above again he will find those players more challenging again, so he will learn a lot from his experience this season. Lets hope he does learn those lessons and that will make him a better manager without doubt, but to blindly just accept every word he says now as gospel leaves a bit to be desired, as he is not as yet the finished article as a manager, and while the public humiliations and tantrums persist you cannot take him totally seriously as being better.

Devils advocate, no, just wise to the ways of the world and some of the attention seekers in it. He will get it right and he will need time, but why make a rod for your own back by giving press statements at such an early point in the season when it is all still to play for. Self belief is one thing and a good thing , but as a manger he has been more than lucky with the backing he has had. Next season will be the tester in the Championship. Between now and then he will learn more than ever before, but those 12 months have yet to pass.

Absolutely brilliant post there Wiz. Sums it up in one.

A quiz question for the insomniacs:

What have Don Rogers, (ooh Aah) Alan Mac and Paul Bodin got in common?

Soon be on the road to Cumbria!

COYR!!!

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Malkym wrote: Wiz said -. Next season will be the tester in the Championship. Blo0dy hell Wiz talk about counting chickens!!!

Let me introduce you to optimism Malky, c'mon try it, it`s quite catchy you know.

Steve I'm as optimistic as anyone to believe that if anyone can get us there PdC can but blimey we've only played a handful of games!

Agree with Wiz that he has to deliver and that both he and wray have stuck their necks out by saying they'll do it - I'm certainly not phased by our dip in form Paolo simply won't allow them to fail.

Pretty sure Williams & Collins will pop some goals in soon but that will require more Stoke like performances than Preston - let's hope that starts today.

red white wrote:
He is the General,he says what he wants!

So was Mussolini!