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SWINDON TOWN: We're friends again
6:00am Tuesday 4th September 2012 in Sport By Sam Morshead
Wes Foderingham
WES Foderingham will be available for selection for Swindon Town’s trip to Oxford tomorrow after he apologised to the club’s players, management and fans and accepted a fine for his reaction to being substituted in the 4-1 defeat at Preston on Sunday.
Foderingham incurred the wrath of manager Paolo Di Canio after lashing out at a water bottle and marching off down the tunnel when he was withdrawn after just 21 minutes at Deepdale, with the Italian boss branding his display on the day as one of the worst professional performances he had ever seen.
However, within 24 hours of the incident the goalkeeper and his manager had made up and, while his actions will cost him financially, Di Canio said Foderingham would still be considered for Wednesday’s starting line-up.
“He came in to see me and he apologised,” he said. “It was a moment that he felt hurt by the situation but it’s obvious that it’s an action that is unacceptable.
“It can happen, a moment of madness, and a simple substitution he went out kicking the bottle everywhere and left the ground, left his teammates.
“It’s not acceptable because I know the mentality sometimes is ‘I’m the goalkeeper, I can’t be subbed’ like there is some rules in football. When you have a bad day like he did yesterday, then you can be subbed.
“Now it’s done, he said sorry and apologised to everybody and we move on. Obviously that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to pay something, he will have to pay the club he will be fined.
“Otherwise with (Matt) Ritchie, the next time I drop him he comes with a gun, shoots people, says sorry and escapes from a fine or punishment. This is normal but we move on. It is clear that if it happens again the same player is out for the rest of my managerial career – in here or somewhere else.
“Once it can happen - I know, I was a footballer and I can understand and I know him exactly because he’s a genuine guy, a strong character is some way. He’s a bit arrogant, I was more arrogant than him in the past in my life, it can happen.
“But there are rules you have to respect but now everything is done, we move on and we are looking forward to working together.”
Comments(87)
grove red
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6:32am Tue 4 Sep 12
3ampcb wrote:agree lets move on coyr lets give the oxford a good spanking would love to see us win 3 or 4-0
OK. Let's put the issue behind us and get on and beast the Oxford scum.
stfcknowitall
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6:51am Tue 4 Sep 12
Sky sports almost seemed dissapointed that this whole thing was resolved yesterday, lets just hope from now on the only thing they will have to report is an amazing season for the mighty Swindon Town FC!!
Cant wait for tomorrows game, got my ticket ready and my seat booked on the coach!
COME ON YOU REDS!!
Wilesy
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7:38am Tue 4 Sep 12
Since 1950
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7:43am Tue 4 Sep 12
London Red
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8:28am Tue 4 Sep 12
dreamofacleansheet2
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8:49am Tue 4 Sep 12
PDC is not bigger than our club but my god the DiCanio Express is still roaring along. To me he's lost a battle to win the war. No passengers anywhere in the team in the first 20 minutes. Respect and discipline absolute.
Following on from Martinez at Swansea and his revolution of playing proper entertaining football they have subsequently chosen managers with his ethos. De Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup.
I am hoping that once Paolo has left the board somehow choose someone who is massively into sports science, fitness, discipline on and off the pitch.
Whatever his imperfections (and there are many) I love the dedeication, drive, attention to detail he has brought to this club. Whatever the results no one can accuse the players of not giving there all in a professional manager. That for me is everything. As I said I think he'll do at least three seasons with us and take us into the Premiership.
Back to back to back promotions coming.....
Lanky
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9:13am Tue 4 Sep 12
Wilesy wrote:Its the news. Its made the national headlines. You would just be complaining if the local paper wasn't writing stories about it.
This has been done to death now, just the four articles today. Please, Sam, that is enough now.
dave bamber`s caravan
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9:19am Tue 4 Sep 12
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:At least 3 seasons?.... i hope your're right!!
I mentioned this yesterday but I will do so again to try and get some debate going on a different subject.
PDC is not bigger than our club but my god the DiCanio Express is still roaring along. To me he's lost a battle to win the war. No passengers anywhere in the team in the first 20 minutes. Respect and discipline absolute.
Following on from Martinez at Swansea and his revolution of playing proper entertaining football they have subsequently chosen managers with his ethos. De Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup.
I am hoping that once Paolo has left the board somehow choose someone who is massively into sports science, fitness, discipline on and off the pitch.
Whatever his imperfections (and there are many) I love the dedeication, drive, attention to detail he has brought to this club. Whatever the results no one can accuse the players of not giving there all in a professional manager. That for me is everything. As I said I think he'll do at least three seasons with us and take us into the Premiership.
Back to back to back promotions coming.....
In my opinion i think we will be lucky for him to see out the season.
the way he is carring on (right or wrong) he is falling out with too many players, there is only so much much a team can take!. I'm just dreading the time that he falls out with the board, because i can see that happening sooner rather than later.
I really do hope im wrong.
As Paolo said yesterday on sky sports news we will have a new manager sooner rather than later.
Another view
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9:22am Tue 4 Sep 12
Ferguson has a long history of falling out with star players once he's had enough of them, and the recurring complaint is that he won't talk to the player, or give a straight answer. Great careers often end in bitterness at Old Trafford. At least our players cannot complain of being ignored by the boss!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
470785
London Red
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9:22am Tue 4 Sep 12
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We saw a very similar thing with Wise - where fitness was key and they used all sorts of technology to measure heart rates etc during pre-season
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Navarro said that Poyet is similar to Di canio in certain elements - with fitness and preperation etc
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We should expect a few more to adopt these appraoches once entering management if they have played under someone like Poyet or Di Canio
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Other example include AVB who is a water downed version of Jose - who he worked under
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I would expect Xavi for example to become a Guardiola copy in the future if management takes his fancy
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Though having said that can anyone actually think who could continue the PdC appraoch - of fast flowing football backed up by a work hard play hard ethos - I can't really think of any
London Red
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9:30am Tue 4 Sep 12
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AV I saw that and was going to comment on it too as no batters an eyelid when SAF does it (remember he slated Morrison and Pogba in public recently too)
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Another high profile manager has a similar trait - he is also is very succesful and indeed "Special"
dreamofacleansheet2
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9:42am Tue 4 Sep 12
It doesn't have to be someone famous. Look at Adkins who started as a physio.
I'm just hopeful the board realise the positive effect and see it as mandatory for taking the club forward in the future.
For example Eddie Howe at Burnley places great store by it. I'm sure most teams do but knowing someone who's an expert in the field who's shed some light on it, your money goes a long way in Sports Science rather than a knackered fifth striker!
jam1
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9:44am Tue 4 Sep 12
Anyone criticising Paolo and saying that we can't go on like this etc etc... honestly you are talking complete and utter boll0cks!!
hertz
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9:47am Tue 4 Sep 12
Wilesy
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10:30am Tue 4 Sep 12
Lanky wrote:Maybe the pages and pages of Adver coverage has not been extensive enough for you Lanky but in my opinion we have had two penneths from the world and his wife on this. It's overkill and then some for me.
Wilesy wrote: This has been done to death now, just the four articles today. Please, Sam, that is enough now.Its the news. Its made the national headlines. You would just be complaining if the local paper wasn't writing stories about it.
My concern is that STFC will get irritated by this, like the Luke McCormick situation.
In other news we have a game against our rivals tomorrow.
Is Wilder going to Coventry? Are Lee Cox or James Constable likely to play? Duberry is injured so who at centre back? Who to look out for in their team?
stfcknowitall
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10:57am Tue 4 Sep 12
hertz wrote:Lol love this post!!
Dave Bamber , I am dreading him falling out with Matt Ritchie now , if Matt turns up with a gun who knows how many he would take out . Matt has a good shot on him :0) COYR
southside7
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10:58am Tue 4 Sep 12
Another view wrote:Phil Smith
I don't think any of us would deny that Paolo has a lot to learn in man management, but I had to smile when reading this article on Berbatov criticising Ferguson for continually lying to him.
Ferguson has a long history of falling out with star players once he's had enough of them, and the recurring complaint is that he won't talk to the player, or give a straight answer. Great careers often end in bitterness at Old Trafford. At least our players cannot complain of being ignored by the boss!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
470785
stfcknowitall
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11:01am Tue 4 Sep 12
hertz wrote:Lol love this post!!
Dave Bamber , I am dreading him falling out with Matt Ritchie now , if Matt turns up with a gun who knows how many he would take out . Matt has a good shot on him :0) COYR
Stilloyal
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11:02am Tue 4 Sep 12
southside7 wrote:Exactly Southsider.
Another view wrote: I don't think any of us would deny that Paolo has a lot to learn in man management, but I had to smile when reading this article on Berbatov criticising Ferguson for continually lying to him. Ferguson has a long history of falling out with star players once he's had enough of them, and the recurring complaint is that he won't talk to the player, or give a straight answer. Great careers often end in bitterness at Old Trafford. At least our players cannot complain of being ignored by the boss!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/19 470785Phil Smith
the don69
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11:46am Tue 4 Sep 12
ayers looking after their selves which is all well and good,but can Paolo or anybody else tell me Why Preston were faster,sharper,fitte
r,outran us,outplayed us and made us look like an unfit PUB team???????????
Steve. Brentford
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11:55am Tue 4 Sep 12
London Red wrote:If Paolo worked/ran the adver LR and you decided to complain about it (yet again) he would undoubtedly tell you to go and use another site,you repeat yourself over and over,you love to tell us what you have already said a number of days ago,so whats up with the adver (who`s job it is to report-unlike yours) reporting whats gone on or how one of the reporters who happens to be a town fan feels about the whole sorry saga.
Lanky - most news outlets have 1 story on it - the adver have now run at least 7 - OTT don't you think?
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AV I saw that and was going to comment on it too as no batters an eyelid when SAF does it (remember he slated Morrison and Pogba in public recently too)
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Another high profile manager has a similar trait - he is also is very succesful and indeed "Special"
Your just another poster
your just another poster O)
Rebel_phish
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12:36pm Tue 4 Sep 12
When PdC was apointed manager my first reaction was one of "Another Rookie Manager".
I thought it could be a good appointment. I certainly was NOT anti Paolo. I thought if he brought with him the flair, commitment and work ethic he had as a player, then he would do OK. His passion and latin temperment could be seen by some/many as a problem. Nevertheless I was all for his chance to show what he had to offer.
The Town has a history of appointing firts time managers, with varying degrees of success. Trollop, Beamish, Macari, Ardilies, Hoddle, Gorman, McMahon and Onoura, have all been rookie managers at Swindon. Now Di Canio.
The one thing thats different with this current rookie, is that the finances are in the best shape since, oh, I don't know when and the board is right behind him. Its been said before, by me and others, the similarities between Paolo and Lou. The era is different, the football is different, but the drive, passion and commitment is very much evident.
Paolo wants to win EVERY match, cup or league. He wants everyone to sit up and take notice of Swindon. Well, he's doing that, on and off the field, but still, everyone IS talking about the club. If the overall results on the pitch are favourable, then all this talk and publicity will be for the best. You might say Paolo is doing this to put himself in the limelight, ready for when he moves one. True, but dont we all want to better ourselves.
Some people say that Paolo wont be here for much longer, probably the same ones that were saying that he would be off anytime soon during last season.
One thing is for sure, He WILL leave this club, but for what its worth, I think he will stay for the term of his new contract to stear us to the Championship, hopefully by the end of this season.
I've said this before as well. Once we are in the championship, why wouldn't Paolo want to guide us to the Prem. Then for him, its job well done, someone come and get me.
Any follow-on manager should be inheriting a club that has a good work ethic, good fitness, good disipline and good exposure to the media.
Heres to the next 2+ seasons under Mr Di Canio.
ShearerShearer
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12:38pm Tue 4 Sep 12
the don69 wrote:It was mystery to all of us from the first whistle to the last and still is.
I know Paolo is big on fitness,lifestyle,pl ayers looking after their selves which is all well and good,but can Paolo or anybody else tell me Why Preston were faster,sharper,fitte r,outran us,outplayed us and made us look like an unfit PUB team???????????
We looked like a team of strangers for most of the game.
Let's get back on track tomorrow night.
sally2
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1:01pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Caddis Man of the match Birmingham
Say no more
Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
STFCSTFC
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1:14pm Tue 4 Sep 12
sally2 wrote:Like Paolo says get a refund watch oxford what do u want Paul Hart back! How are you Caddis' mummy?
Preston 4 Swindon1 Caddis Man of the match Birmingham Say no more Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
chrystovski
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1:30pm Tue 4 Sep 12
In the last 10 – 15 years footballers in general have only cared about the best deal they can get for themselves and their agent. Paolo is trying to change this attitude amongst our players.
Modern day footballers really don’t realise how privileged they are, which as far as I can tell is why Caddis bit the bullet.
I've read alot of comments, interviews etc about Wes and the way I see it is if Paolo deems we would of got a better result by subbing off Wes, then I have to back him. Maybe a word at half time would suffice for most, but not Paolo.
He doesn’t care who he upsets and whilst his discipline is one of this strengths, I also feel when he does leave for a bigger club then this could also be his downfall.
We don’t know how long is tenure at the CG will last but currently I think he might struggle to walk into a job that he deems fit for himself.
I think some chairmen would look at how he handles the press, his players etc and just wouldn’t want to touch him.
I can see his style failing massively at some clubs ala AVB at Chelsea, so that could be why we keep him longer then this season. (fingers crossed)
I personally think his style is a breath of fresh of air but we all know what effect player power can have in a club.
I think some fans just need to remember what we had 2 – 3 years ago with Danny Wilson when we would be lucky to have 2 or 3 shots at goal, getting beaten at home by the likes of Leyton Orient & Yeovil.
He’d then come out with the same dribble, back the players and put out the same 11 the week after, when unsurprisingly we would get beat again!!!
Since day 1 Paolo has tried to create a them and us mentality ala Mouriniho, you’re either with him 100 percent or against him. I think he see’s the players, staff, fans, board as part of that, hence his comment yesterday about fans getting a refund and watching Oxford instead.
Whilst we might not always morally agree with everything he does, we have to be united as fans and back him and his decisions 100 percent and understand everything he does is for the best of the club.
And who are we to argue with his methods? The results speak for themselves.
That’s why I appreciate Paolo and what he’s done for us. You’ll only have a manager like him once every 20 – 30 years, entertaining on and off the pitch, his attention to detail his second to none and his press conferences well, they’re explosive!
I’m loving every minute of having him in charge and feel it’s a time to saviour for Town fans, I dread the day he goes and also feel sorry for the man who has to feel his boots.
Itchy Bush
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1:32pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Now that Wes is back in-the-fold the other billy bonus working in our favour would be the fact Wilder has been linked with the Coventry job, thus unsettling the “Pox” team & LeGod showing his talents in upsetting the “pox” fans on their site. Well done sir. I take my hat off to you!!
Onwards & upwards in PDC we trust!!
London Red
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1:40pm Tue 4 Sep 12
sally2 wrote:Swindon 3 Brighton 0
Preston 4 Swindon1 Caddis Man of the match Birmingham Say no more Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
Hartlpool 0 Swindon 0
Swindon 3 Crawley 0
Swindon 1 MK Doms 0
Stoke 3 Swindon 4
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Did Caddis play in any of those?
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Say no more!!!!!!
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I take it you didn't see or hear any reports from Palace then - where not one person has said Caddis seemed fit or anywhere near his standards from last year
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We had the same comments last year when Clarke went to Chesterfield in a higher division - Where is he now? Where are we now?
dreamofacleansheet2
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1:48pm Tue 4 Sep 12
The Don re your question it normally happens when as a team you turn up and think you're going to win. Knackered after the 120 minutes at Stoke coupled with a poor attitude equals rubbish performance.
As I've said, Poalo is prepared to lose battles to win the war. Imagine if we knock out Burnley, what do you think the response of the players who play again the following Saturday will be?
jfl
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2:09pm Tue 4 Sep 12
London Red wrote:Where is he now? Charlton in the Championship.
sally2 wrote: Preston 4 Swindon1 Caddis Man of the match Birmingham Say no more Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.Swindon 3 Brighton 0 Hartlpool 0 Swindon 0 Swindon 3 Crawley 0 Swindon 1 MK Doms 0 Stoke 3 Swindon 4 . Did Caddis play in any of those? . Say no more!!!!!! . I take it you didn't see or hear any reports from Palace then - where not one person has said Caddis seemed fit or anywhere near his standards from last year . We had the same comments last year when Clarke went to Chesterfield in a higher division - Where is he now? Where are we now?
Where are we now? League 1.
What is your point?
dreamofacleansheet2
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2:15pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Wilesy
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2:16pm Tue 4 Sep 12
I wonder how Paolo would have handled the Stoke team if he had been in Tony Pulis's shoes.
Sorensen playing like it was his first time in goal.
Kenwyne Jones and Cameron Jerome ambling around like they didn't want to be there.
Huth and Upson being ripped to shreds by our strikers, putting the keeper under pressure and losing the ball.
Lazy passes just going into touch.
It would have been interesting to say the least and heads may have rolled.
But unless that club has a Sheik for an owner you can't just sack off those players for nothing they are worth too much money to the club. Multi-millionaires so no financial worries. And used to being sub so no worries about being hauled off early and benched.
Different tactics would be needed at the higher level......
Red-in-exile
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2:38pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Hats off to you. Best and most eloquent post I've seen on this episode.
smirg kcab
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2:43pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Wilesy wrote:Saying that both maccs, Rooney,devera,Navarr
Good posts rebel and chrystovski.
I wonder how Paolo would have handled the Stoke team if he had been in Tony Pulis's shoes.
Sorensen playing like it was his first time in goal.
Kenwyne Jones and Cameron Jerome ambling around like they didn't want to be there.
Huth and Upson being ripped to shreds by our strikers, putting the keeper under pressure and losing the ball.
Lazy passes just going into touch.
It would have been interesting to say the least and heads may have rolled.
But unless that club has a Sheik for an owner you can't just sack off those players for nothing they are worth too much money to the club. Multi-millionaires so no financial worries. And used to being sub so no worries about being hauled off early and benched.
Different tactics would be needed at the higher level......
o played like the stoke players you mentioned if not worse.
Yes every player can have an off day, but it should be collectively not individual.
Onwards and upwards
smirg kcab
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2:47pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Shame because it will be the dearest bottle of power aid he has ever bought.
Onwards and upwards.
smirg kcab
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2:54pm Tue 4 Sep 12
sally2 wrote:Sally you must be unique as no female knows anything about football.
Preston 4 Swindon1
Caddis Man of the match Birmingham
Say no more
Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
FACT.
Onwards and upwards
Looking forward to watching a mans game wednesday
Exmouth_red69
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3:11pm Tue 4 Sep 12
sally2 wrote:boring, move on.
Preston 4 Swindon1
Caddis Man of the match Birmingham
Say no more
Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
SeanG92
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3:31pm Tue 4 Sep 12
smirg kcab wrote:Lets hope they all got it out their system!
Wilesy wrote:Saying that both maccs, Rooney,devera,Navarr
Good posts rebel and chrystovski.
I wonder how Paolo would have handled the Stoke team if he had been in Tony Pulis's shoes.
Sorensen playing like it was his first time in goal.
Kenwyne Jones and Cameron Jerome ambling around like they didn't want to be there.
Huth and Upson being ripped to shreds by our strikers, putting the keeper under pressure and losing the ball.
Lazy passes just going into touch.
It would have been interesting to say the least and heads may have rolled.
But unless that club has a Sheik for an owner you can't just sack off those players for nothing they are worth too much money to the club. Multi-millionaires so no financial worries. And used to being sub so no worries about being hauled off early and benched.
Different tactics would be needed at the higher level......
o played like the stoke players you mentioned if not worse.
Yes every player can have an off day, but it should be collectively not individual.
Onwards and upwards
I think we were just shocked by Preston after starting so bad, adding to that the fact the bad start was down to our won error made it even worse and I think we were kind of stunned all game.
Time for the robin to rise from the ashes now tho. AI have a feeling Oxford are in for a humping.
London Red
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3:58pm Tue 4 Sep 12
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He was also farmed out to Crawley on loan - where he made and impressive 3 starts during that period
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This year he has been given the number 40 shirt so is really high up the Charlton pecking order
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I still don't know why they agreed to take him - but lucky for us they are lumbered with him and will have to try and shift him on AGAIN to what his 20th club?
southside7
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3:58pm Tue 4 Sep 12
SeanG92 wrote:wouldn't have guessed Rockin robin lean't that way....you never can tell
smirg kcab wrote:Lets hope they all got it out their system!
Wilesy wrote:Saying that both maccs, Rooney,devera,Navarr
Good posts rebel and chrystovski.
I wonder how Paolo would have handled the Stoke team if he had been in Tony Pulis's shoes.
Sorensen playing like it was his first time in goal.
Kenwyne Jones and Cameron Jerome ambling around like they didn't want to be there.
Huth and Upson being ripped to shreds by our strikers, putting the keeper under pressure and losing the ball.
Lazy passes just going into touch.
It would have been interesting to say the least and heads may have rolled.
But unless that club has a Sheik for an owner you can't just sack off those players for nothing they are worth too much money to the club. Multi-millionaires so no financial worries. And used to being sub so no worries about being hauled off early and benched.
Different tactics would be needed at the higher level......
o played like the stoke players you mentioned if not worse.
Yes every player can have an off day, but it should be collectively not individual.
Onwards and upwards
I think we were just shocked by Preston after starting so bad, adding to that the fact the bad start was down to our won error made it even worse and I think we were kind of stunned all game.
Time for the robin to rise from the ashes now tho. AI have a feeling Oxford are in for a humping.
red dragon
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4:19pm Tue 4 Sep 12
London Red
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4:35pm Tue 4 Sep 12
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Even PdC can accept defeat when it is a merited defeat
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What he can not accept (and we as fans should not either) is lack lusture displays
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Preston by all accounts was a disgrace (unlike MK!) and that should get the reaction it did from PdC
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If you are happy with that you must have loved 2011 under Wilson with our run of 19 without a win!
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Now PdC said he had a feeling it might happen like it did at Hartlepool - so least we and the players know now that post big cup games - changes will be made to ensure this does not happen again
Rebel_phish
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4:41pm Tue 4 Sep 12
red dragon wrote:Paolo wants to win every game, 'cos he wants the Town to be the best.
We cannot possibly win every game as PDC wants. Is he going to react the same way every time we don't? Seems a tad childish to me. His attitude is also quite poor just like his man management. Having said that, we need a strong manager, just think he should temper it a bit or we could have a mutiny at some point
He knows that no one has the right to win a game before a ball is kicked, and he knows that we Will be beaten from time to time. Its all about the maner of the play with him. Play well and lose, so be it, If the players give of their all and lose, Paolo will still be happy with them. Play bad, don't put in the effort and we all know he will berate his players.
Its the same for him when we win. If its a poor performance, Paolo is not happy. He says we should have won by more, or it should have been easier, we put ourselves under too much pressure etc.
For Paolo its all about the effort, belief and commitment of the players.Get that instilled into the playing mentality and the team will win far more than they lose.
SeanG92
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4:42pm Tue 4 Sep 12
red dragon wrote:So your saying wanting to win every game is wrong? :/
We cannot possibly win every game as PDC wants. Is he going to react the same way every time we don't? Seems a tad childish to me. His attitude is also quite poor just like his man management. Having said that, we need a strong manager, just think he should temper it a bit or we could have a mutiny at some point
He reacts the way he does on occasions where he feels the team have failed to give 100% and play to the best of their ability. I cant argue with that. Although obviously he went over the top on this particular occasion.
dreamofacleansheet2
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4:51pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Thanking you in advance.
NEWBURYREDS
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4:56pm Tue 4 Sep 12
go to sam Morsheads twitter page, the links on there re; JW interview
Wilesy
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5:01pm Tue 4 Sep 12
jfl wrote:Presumably he is happy being 6th choice at Charlton.
London Red wrote:Where is he now? Charlton in the Championship. Where are we now? League 1. What is your point?sally2 wrote: Preston 4 Swindon1 Caddis Man of the match Birmingham Say no more Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.Swindon 3 Brighton 0 Hartlpool 0 Swindon 0 Swindon 3 Crawley 0 Swindon 1 MK Doms 0 Stoke 3 Swindon 4 . Did Caddis play in any of those? . Say no more!!!!!! . I take it you didn't see or hear any reports from Palace then - where not one person has said Caddis seemed fit or anywhere near his standards from last year . We had the same comments last year when Clarke went to Chesterfield in a higher division - Where is he now? Where are we now?
I'm surprised Clarke didn't stay at Chesterfield tbh as he did OK there.
Rebel_phish
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5:02pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Rebel_phish
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5:03pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Rebel_phish wrote:Here's a link..
Dreamo, could also go to BBC Iplayer. Radio 5Live Mon 3rd Sep 7-9 pm. Its about 1h 38m into to program
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/iplayer/episode/b01
mdgqq/5_live_Sport_T
he_Monday_Night_Club
_03_09_2012/
dreamofacleansheet2
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5:50pm Tue 4 Sep 12
"What I wanted was discipline and passion and that's what I've got am I delighted". "We've now got a really string squad and will be interesting to see how Paolo develops his man management skills".
Love our chairman he's just brilliant.
dreamofacleansheet2
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5:52pm Tue 4 Sep 12
too bloody right we have. Taken the 7's from betvictor to go with the 14s, 12s and 10s, also take the 40-1 on James Collins each way and 28s on Andy Williams. The only way is up!
Shellingpeas2
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5:54pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Rebel_phish
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6:10pm Tue 4 Sep 12
It will all click into place sometime soon, and then just watch out.
Jan Aage
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6:11pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Just because footballing tradition says you wait until the second half to use subs, and you don't sub a keeper, it does not make it right. Di Canio is a visionary. Maybe someone should have told Cruyff not to try that fancy turn of his as it broke the mould?
The Di Canio hate mob should remember tepid performances like Oldham away a couple of years back in the relegation season. Charlie Austin running his heart out with absolutely no help from the rest. I wished Wilson had subbed in the first half that day. That was the ball and chain's first Swindon match and she stil takes the mickey out of me that one of them took a throw in that went straight out of play (granted, it was windy).
Keep the faith!
London Red
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6:20pm Tue 4 Sep 12
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Does anyone really care what Rio or Roberts have to say - I don't!
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If it came from Arry I would take some interest as he actually knows PdC
Jan Aage
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6:28pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Another view
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6:35pm Tue 4 Sep 12
10:58am Tue 4 Sep 12
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Another view wrote:
I don't think any of us would deny that Paolo has a lot to learn in man management, but I had to smile when reading this article on Berbatov criticising Ferguson for continually lying to him.
Ferguson has a long history of falling out with star players once he's had enough of them, and the recurring complaint is that he won't talk to the player, or give a straight answer. Great careers often end in bitterness at Old Trafford. At least our players cannot complain of being ignored by the boss!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
470785
Phil Smith”
- Oops, forgot about Phil!
But apart from that...
what HAS the Roman done for us???
southside7
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6:41pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Another view wrote:Yes he has done amazing things for us, but I believe you still have an obligation to be decent to people whilst doing said 'great things'.....but what do I know, after last nights Sky interview I guess I'm only a lowly supporter of a league 1 club.
southside7 says...
10:58am Tue 4 Sep 12
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Another view wrote:
I don't think any of us would deny that Paolo has a lot to learn in man management, but I had to smile when reading this article on Berbatov criticising Ferguson for continually lying to him.
Ferguson has a long history of falling out with star players once he's had enough of them, and the recurring complaint is that he won't talk to the player, or give a straight answer. Great careers often end in bitterness at Old Trafford. At least our players cannot complain of being ignored by the boss!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/19
470785
Phil Smith”
- Oops, forgot about Phil!
But apart from that...
what HAS the Roman done for us???
smirg kcab
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6:50pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Onwards and upwards
mike1990
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7:01pm Tue 4 Sep 12
lss11051981
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7:15pm Tue 4 Sep 12
LeGod
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7:24pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Lets face it when we appointed Paolo all the so called professional laughed and most said he would last 6 months they said the same about Hoddle when we appointed him and they would all love for things to explode with Paolo at the helm.
For me personally Paolo has been right on everything he has done so far for our club we have to remember he's emotional but dedicated to the cause after all its his head on the line if all fails not the players.
We all know its going to be a roller coaster ride but i would have Paolo anyday on any of the current managers that are unemployed.
So all you idiots that are knocking him need to have a reality check as he will only take so much crap from the fans and he will be off and then we will be stuck with some mediocre manager like the Yellow scum down the road.
So support him and the team and lets move on.
PAOLO RULES
35yrRED
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8:29pm Tue 4 Sep 12
sally2 wrote:Where were you for the all of the matches before this ONE bad game??? Where were your comparisions with and without Caddis then??? What happened to Sally1......stuck down at the Kassam by any chance?
Preston 4 Swindon1
Caddis Man of the match Birmingham
Say no more
Paolo Good coach,not so good man management,gave Paul no way back.Should have told him in private. The captain should be given some respect.He was obviously fit enough to be MOM in a higher division and he always run his guts out for the Town.
Devon Red
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8:40pm Tue 4 Sep 12
We are indeed very fortunate to have such an articulate Chairman who can put things into perspective so well.
After all the furore on here I am glad its all over. I for one can't wait to see what team Paolo puts out tomorrow and what sort of performance the lads give. This in some way will provide us all with a real insight as to what mentality "the team" really has and another opportunity to see if Paolo's methodology is going to work for us again this season. COYR
Rebel_phish
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8:50pm Tue 4 Sep 12
When JW said that he could impose a media ban on Paolo to stop him talking to the press, Chappers said "please dont do that"
Irrespective to what Claridge, and others say, the media actually love Paolo. Why else would the BBC give him is own column on their sports website.
graham81
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8:51pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Stilloyal
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9:00pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Rebel_phish
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9:04pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Swindon v Brighton. We went at them from the start and stiffled them. Got our rewards in the 2nd half.
Stoke v Swindon. Fast start, never let them play, 2 nil up at half time.We never let them settle.
PNE v Town. Preston pushed high up the park, they never let us settle, we just could not get into our game, 2 nil down in 25 mins.
So, fast flowing football from the Town please and let the Di Canio Express roll the Pox over.
Stilloyal
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9:13pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Rebel_phish wrote:Against Brighton the first half was all about possesion and Brighton had slightly more of the ball than us.
Another thing, about the match tomorrow, there's only one way to play it. Go at them right from the start, 100 mile an hour, don't let them settle and we will prevail. Swindon v Brighton. We went at them from the start and stiffled them. Got our rewards in the 2nd half. Stoke v Swindon. Fast start, never let them play, 2 nil up at half time.We never let them settle. PNE v Town. Preston pushed high up the park, they never let us settle, we just could not get into our game, 2 nil down in 25 mins. So, fast flowing football from the Town please and let the Di Canio Express roll the Pox over.
Second half we changed tactics by playing 2 up front instead of the 1 we had in the first half. This ploy took the seagulls by surprise and we ripped them to shreds.
If you recall many fans complained about the boring play in the first half , however the formation change was a Di Caio masterstroke .
Redhouse Red
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9:23pm Tue 4 Sep 12
"Swindon Town Football Club
In 2007, after the deal looked like it was about to fall through and while the club looked likely to fall into administration. He bought 75% of the club with a consortium of others for an undisclosed fee from Sir Seton Wills, James Wills and Mike Diamandis in early 2008. The club at this point was in £4 million of debt but he paid to have the debt cleared, hence removing the transfer embargo and lifting the club out of administration."
After all the fuss of the last couple of days. It just reminded me how much my expectations of the team and board have changed in what is less than 5 years. Perhaps i should be happy to still have a club?
Stilloyal
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9:38pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Redhouse Red wrote:Couldn't agree more about this last paragraph Red.
Just flicking through Wikipedia (bored) and found this under the page about Andrew fitton "Swindon Town Football Club In 2007, after the deal looked like it was about to fall through and while the club looked likely to fall into administration. He bought 75% of the club with a consortium of others for an undisclosed fee from Sir Seton Wills, James Wills and Mike Diamandis in early 2008. The club at this point was in £4 million of debt but he paid to have the debt cleared, hence removing the transfer embargo and lifting the club out of administration." After all the fuss of the last couple of days. It just reminded me how much my expectations of the team and board have changed in what is less than 5 years. Perhaps i should be happy to still have a club?
SAPFanSTFC
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9:38pm Tue 4 Sep 12
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ESS! TEE! EFF! CEE!
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Stuck in London tomorrow night so relying on STFCPlayer now....let the backlash begin!!
Stilloyal
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9:43pm Tue 4 Sep 12
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Karaoke @ the Conservative club Friday SAP, I'll pick you a song or two :-)
We are Paolo's Red & White Army!!! ... ESS! TEE! EFF! CEE! .. Stuck in London tomorrow night so relying on STFCPlayer now....let the backlash begin!!
graham81
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9:46pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Stilloyal wrote:Do they show the whole game on there?
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Karaoke @ the Conservative club Friday SAP, I'll pick you a song or two :-)
We are Paolo's Red & White Army!!! ... ESS! TEE! EFF! CEE! .. Stuck in London tomorrow night so relying on STFCPlayer now....let the backlash begin!!
London Red
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10:25pm Tue 4 Sep 12
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Bet Charlton are praying Chesterfield are stupid enough to take him in Jan!
mancrobin
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10:39pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Jan Aage wrote:My fond memory of that day was the chant "Oldham's a Library!"
Just don't get how any Swindon fan who has had to live through the low, after low, after low (with a couple of high points) of the last 15 years or so can even think about criticising Di Canio. He made a substitution, end of!
Just because footballing tradition says you wait until the second half to use subs, and you don't sub a keeper, it does not make it right. Di Canio is a visionary. Maybe someone should have told Cruyff not to try that fancy turn of his as it broke the mould?
The Di Canio hate mob should remember tepid performances like Oldham away a couple of years back in the relegation season. Charlie Austin running his heart out with absolutely no help from the rest. I wished Wilson had subbed in the first half that day. That was the ball and chain's first Swindon match and she stil takes the mickey out of me that one of them took a throw in that went straight out of play (granted, it was windy).
Keep the faith!
old town robin
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11:09pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Redhouse Red wrote:I was doing the same redhouse, lots of interesting facts, we are the only club in the world with a rolex time clock was a surprise to know, first FL club to have floodlight installed in 1951, (albeit not used for a league match until 1956, 7 days after Pompey. I can remember the lights were fitted on the roof in the fifties, pylons were not installed until 1960.
Just flicking through Wikipedia (bored) and found this under the page about Andrew fitton
"Swindon Town Football Club
In 2007, after the deal looked like it was about to fall through and while the club looked likely to fall into administration. He bought 75% of the club with a consortium of others for an undisclosed fee from Sir Seton Wills, James Wills and Mike Diamandis in early 2008. The club at this point was in £4 million of debt but he paid to have the debt cleared, hence removing the transfer embargo and lifting the club out of administration."
After all the fuss of the last couple of days. It just reminded me how much my expectations of the team and board have changed in what is less than 5 years. Perhaps i should be happy to still have a club?
How many schoolboys of the fifties can remember England always played on wednesday afternoon (half day for shops which were usually shut at midday), very little telly in those days, had to listen to it on the radio.
Happy days,
Malkym
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11:18pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Just don't get how any Swindon fan who has had to live through the low, after low, after low (with a couple of high points) of the last 15 years or so can even think about criticising Di Canio. He made a substitution, end of!
The Di Canio hate mob should remember tepid performances like Oldham away a couple of years back in the relegation season. Charlie Austin running his heart out with absolutely no help from the rest.
Jan Aage -would that be the same Charlie Austin that was slagged off on here b many a few threads ago when it was announced we were playing Burnley? Would he be the same "Charlie is our darling" who banged in the goals for fun and was universally adored until he decided that he couldn't save the club from going down on his own and asked for a move-at which point he immediately became the subject of those same persons abuse -yeah? -thought so!
old town robin
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11:31pm Tue 4 Sep 12
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:Dreamo, I've taken your sdvise and got my win bet 7-1 laid with them and also an automatic promotion bet for a 1,2,3. As a new customer I'm also entitled to a £25 free bet, do I have to wait a couple of days before that's activated, because as a punter that does not normally gamble too much, I found the site a little bit difficult to get to where i wanted to take advantage of the offer..
strong squad.....
too bloody right we have. Taken the 7's from betvictor to go with the 14s, 12s and 10s, also take the 40-1 on James Collins each way and 28s on Andy Williams. The only way is up!
Jan Aage
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11:42pm Tue 4 Sep 12
Steve. Brentford
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11:47pm Tue 4 Sep 12
LeGod wrote:You were doing just fine Le God until you decided to then call people idiots, not necessary, of course some comments for eg, sack Di Canio,are imo ill thought and again my opinion rubbish but to call every one (what you call knocking him) an idiot is also rubbish some may think you are a idiot for going on the Pox site giving them stick. (not necessarily me by the way)Everyone is entitled to do/say how they feel,we wont always agree with them but so what, for the record i think if our manager quits because some of our fans have a different opinion to his then he will quit every job he takes, because from what Ive seen/heard,witnessed our fans(or the majority of them) sing his name and support him the extent that we almost worship him.no matter where he manages he will never be everyone's cup of tea,there are a lot worse and impatient fans than ours that's for sure.
Alot of managers fall out with players Mancini last season with 3 or 4 of his Ferguson with his time at United theres loads of them but i wish the players of other clubs like Rio who always has to poke his nose concentrates on his own issues and Roberts they all need to shut up.
Lets face it when we appointed Paolo all the so called professional laughed and most said he would last 6 months they said the same about Hoddle when we appointed him and they would all love for things to explode with Paolo at the helm.
For me personally Paolo has been right on everything he has done so far for our club we have to remember he's emotional but dedicated to the cause after all its his head on the line if all fails not the players.
We all know its going to be a roller coaster ride but i would have Paolo anyday on any of the current managers that are unemployed.
So all you idiots that are knocking him need to have a reality check as he will only take so much crap from the fans and he will be off and then we will be stuck with some mediocre manager like the Yellow scum down the road.
So support him and the team and lets move on.
PAOLO RULES
Malkym
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12:19am Wed 5 Sep 12
Memo to Ian/SAP -there you go wise words from Steve that you would do well to note. I know my posts hack you off Ian but you can again for the avoidance of doubt rest assured that as regards to posting on these forums I'll do what I want I'll say what I want and boy oh boy if that rankles and winds you up (and I know it does because you've said so) then that's awfully unfortunate but I'm not stopping posting on your account old chap! Toodle pip!
SAPFanSTFC
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12:41pm Wed 5 Sep 12
cpfc Johnny
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4:05pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Would really love to see you lot go straight through L1, from what I've seen you'd do well in the Champ (just hope we're still in it when you get there!).
Love him or hate him, PdC is good for football, and you should enjoy having him, for however long that may be.
Malkym
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4:35pm Wed 5 Sep 12
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Yep I'll carry on toddling and hacking you off as long as you keep having a dig or hurling abuse in my direction Ian. Isn't it funny I can accept the likes of Steve for example having a dig because there's often good humoured banter involved on both sides but unfortunately it seems your successful charisma by pass operation has left you devoid of a sense of humour unfortunately it seems. Do have a good evening old chap and oh yeah what is it now ess tee fff cee or something coyr!
Get over it Jock and toddle on eh!?
Steve. Brentford
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8:26pm Wed 5 Sep 12
cpfc Johnny wrote:Cheers Johnny, i hope your still in there as well,it makes another away game for me to attend easy and a good friend of mine is a die hard Palace fan from Carshalton it would be good to go to a game with him again.Good luck for the season ahead.
Palace fan here, always rated Wes really highly, so I'm very interested to read about this and your opinions. For what it's worth, I think this will make STFC as a club (and Wes as a player) stronger. You have a manager with a very strong character, and yes, he's volatile, but he expects his players to show tons of character too. So in that kind of environment, things like this are bound to happen from time to time, and it's not about what happened on Sunday, but how the manager and players deal with it, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big response tonight.
Would really love to see you lot go straight through L1, from what I've seen you'd do well in the Champ (just hope we're still in it when you get there!).
Love him or hate him, PdC is good for football, and you should enjoy having him, for however long that may be.

3ampcb says...
6:16am Tue 4 Sep 12