MATCHDAY LIVE: Preston North End v Swindon Town (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
NOT A GOOD START...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Oh dear, he comes trouble!

ciclosporindorset wrote:
A passionate manager should not let his feelings affect his judgement & decision making .

We are PANTS wrote:
Di Canio is really starting to niggle me with his stupid ever increasing rants!!! We all make mistakes. Foderigham is class and hardly makes ANY!!! I really hope that PDC hasn't shot himself in the foot!!! He needs to nip this in the bud with Wes....

Exmouth_red69 wrote:
I notice you only post Mallorca when it's negative. Strange?

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

We are PANTS wrote:
Di Canio is really starting to niggle me with his stupid ever increasing rants!!! We all make mistakes. Foderigham is class and hardly makes ANY!!! I really hope that PDC hasn't shot himself in the foot!!! He needs to nip this in the bud with Wes....

I think alot of people are thinking on the same lines...
Dont get me wrong hes doing a good job BUT must stop throwing toys from the dougout

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Oh dear, he comes trouble!

the man needs to carm down or if not he will kill himself.OR A PLAYER LOL

mike1990 wrote:
What 3-0 down,oh dear back to earth with a big bump,think we got too big for our boots,Preston giving us a thrashing today.

stokes_stfc wrote:
i'm not gonna come and slag off paolo, as i am a big fan of what he has done at town, but taking off fodders is a rash decision that was never going to get us back in the game. This game is beyond us at half time, so I just hope that there won't be a falling out between wes and paolo.

Lazaat wrote:
I am at the match, forget Barcelona this is like Brazil v Swindon! We are rubbish and being totally outclassed, they should be 5-0 up by now!!! Can't see anyway back but remember when we were 4-0 down at Brum and won 6-4? Wes had a right tantrum when he went off, Paulo gave him a right bo110cking as he walked off!! Very good turnout by our supporters but gone very quiet now. I don't know whether we are rubbish or Preston are brilliant, but they look very very good and brilliant on the break.

We are PANTS wrote:

stokes_stfc wrote:
i'm not gonna come and slag off paolo, as i am a big fan of what he has done at town, but taking off fodders is a rash decision that was never going to get us back in the game. This game is beyond us at half time, so I just hope that there won't be a falling out between wes and paolo.

We are ALL fans of Di Canio as a Football Manager that is not in question. People are simply voicing their concerns about his man management.. Two different subjects.

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Well with Mat Ritchie out, today could be the day when Luke Rooney shows exactly why he should be included in all matchday squads, good luck to you Luke,gutted i couldn't be a Deepdale today but i intend to enjoy this matchday thread with Sam and Andy, coyr`s

Steve. Brentford wrote:

mike1990 wrote:
What 3-0 down,oh dear back to earth with a big bump,think we got too big for our boots,Preston giving us a thrashing today.

Fcking hell mike dont sound so upbeat about it :O) you seem to be nearly enjoying it ,-)

mallorca wrote:
Spot on Oltown Red,it's no way to manage men

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Caddis got man of the match yesterday for Brum, what does that say about Di Canio's man management?

Chish and Fips wrote:
Looks like Luke Rooney blue his chance to impress then, subbed for Bostock

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Alot off slaging going on 2day......
DO YOU LOT WONT PAOLO OUT OR SOMETHING...
We all know hes mental but hes is the manager of STFC or will he jack after the game as he aint a happy chappy..
Well we all know what hes like

Oi Den! wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Caddis got man of the match yesterday for Brum, what does that say about Di Canio's man management?

PDC's man management is definitely questionable on occasions, but I don't think Caddis getting man of the match tells us anything. If Caddis had been crap yesterday, that wouldn't have said anything about PDC's man management either.

stigger wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote: Alot off slaging going on 2day...... DO YOU LOT WONT PAOLO OUT OR SOMETHING... We all know hes mental but hes is the manager of STFC or will he jack after the game as he aint a happy chappy.. Well we all know what hes like

Its not about wanting him out, practically no one has said that, but no one person is bigger than the club including PDC and he has made some mistakes in his time here and if he wants to be a top manager, he will have to improve his man management that is evident

jonnyb4532 wrote:
get di canio out always upsetting players man management at times is poor just presses the trigger at first sign of trouble look at clarke and caddis situation hes a coward who wont back down and sort summit out sensibly i guess that fodders gone now

Oxon-Red wrote:
Not sure of the decision but it does give Leigh valuable experience.

COYMR

jonnyb4532 wrote:
get di canio out always upsetting players man management at times is poor just presses the trigger at first sign of trouble look at clarke and caddis situation hes a coward who wont back down and sort summit out sensibly i guess that fodders gone now

jonnyb4532 wrote:
get di canio out always upsetting players man management at times is poor just presses the trigger at first sign of trouble look at clarke and caddis situation hes a coward who wont back down and sort summit out sensibly i guess that fodders gone now

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Bad day and just hope Wes doesn't do anything rash to aggravate the situation although it was a ridiculous decision by Paolo. No thought at all just a red mist reaction. The fall out could be catastrophic. Wes gives his all every match, to lose him or demotivate him is senseless. Much as I think Paolo can be amazing as a manager he is also deeply flawed. Emotional intelligence? I think not.

Malkym wrote:
A very disappointing result after the euphoria of Stoke. I wonder if it's that age old scenario of the players thinking they only had to turn up today

Clearly a wake up call and a reminder that winning this league won't be the cakewalk some payers and fans think perhaps it might be.

The Wes scenario is very worrying especially as we didn't sign an experienced back up keeper during the transfer window and if Paolo has now cooked Wes's goose then our bird is well and truly stuffed.

Bootlegger wrote:

Malkym wrote:
A very disappointing result after the euphoria of Stoke. I wonder if it's that age old scenario of the players thinking they only had to turn up today

Clearly a wake up call and a reminder that winning this league won't be the cakewalk some payers and fans think perhaps it might be.

The Wes scenario is very worrying especially as we didn't sign an experienced back up keeper during the transfer window and if Paolo has now cooked Wes's goose then our bird is well and truly stuffed.

An emergency loan goalkeeper isn't usually hard to find. That's why a back up probably wasn't singed last week.

Exmouth_red69 wrote:
Oldtownred, using the word bullying is a very strong and in my opinion stupid and easily thrown around insult. Yes it was any over reaction taking off wes, but paolo is the manager and results reflect on him. Wednesday he was the messiah today a bully! Wes will come back stronger and better.

Malkym wrote:

Bootlegger wrote:

Malkym wrote:
A very disappointing result after the euphoria of Stoke. I wonder if it's that age old scenario of the players thinking they only had to turn up today

Clearly a wake up call and a reminder that winning this league won't be the cakewalk some payers and fans think perhaps it might be.

The Wes scenario is very worrying especially as we didn't sign an experienced back up keeper during the transfer window and if Paolo has now cooked Wes's goose then our bird is well and truly stuffed.

An emergency loan goalkeeper isn't usually hard to find. That's why a back up probably wasn't singed last week.

Yes agreed but finding onehalf as good as Wes is the problem.

Oi Den! wrote:
I heard someone say on the radio that all will be forgotten when we beat Oxford.
.
3 points have just gone down the swannee, there's a potential major fall-out between the manager and our best player, and a win against a fourth rate team in a fourth rate competition will put everything right? Not for me.

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Whats the betting, Di Canio will be fired if he doesnt apologise!

the don69 wrote:
Just leaving Deepdale Chaps!what can I say other than we played like a Pub Team,no tactics,no desire,no energy,worst performance I've seen under PDC,It's back to the drawing board,we made Preston look like Spain,good job I'm driving home,time for me to have a few drinks!!!!!!!!!!!

Oxon-Red wrote:
I won't judge the decision until we have heard (hopefully) from Paolo.

A lot of assumptions being made, best to wait for the reasoning rather than make rash statements in the heat of a disappointing moment.

Saints 2-1 up against the Mancs !!!

COYMR

the don69 wrote:

the don69 wrote:
Just leaving Deepdale Chaps!what can I say other than we played like a Pub Team,no tactics,no desire,no energy,worst performance I've seen under PDC,It's back to the drawing board,we made Preston look like Spain,good job I'm driving home,time for me to have a few drinks!!!!!!!!!!!

That should be Not driving,I'm one of the passengers,having a few beers,what did PDC say about the game!!!!!!!

bradley red 1 wrote:
I have commented before that this season could all end in tears! di canio is a unstable personality in my opinion,all the good which has happened is fantastic but things are now happening that could actually destroy di canios job as a manager! this is definately a case of di canio thinking he is bigger than the club! i see trouble ahead while he is in charge and only jeremy wray has the power to sort this out,to take the goalie off is not right,unless things have been happening behind closed doors? i am baffled and listening to the managers rant on the radio fills me with worry for the club.dissapointed to say the least but the manager needs to have a look at himself because these players will not want to perform and ultimately he will lose the dressing room!!!

Oi Den! wrote:
Oh dear, I really am starting to wonder whether PDC's inability to keep calm in these situations is going to be the undoing of all his good work. Wray needs to sit him down and try to get some of his own diplomacy to rub off. It just can't go on like this.

Oi Den! wrote:
Oh dear, I really am starting to wonder whether PDC's inability to keep calm in these situations is going to be the undoing of all his good work. Wray needs to sit him down and try to get some of his own diplomacy to rub off. It just can't go on like this.

Bootlegger wrote:

Malkym wrote:
A very disappointing result after the euphoria of Stoke. I wonder if it's that age old scenario of the players thinking they only had to turn up today

Clearly a wake up call and a reminder that winning this league won't be the cakewalk some payers and fans think perhaps it might be.

The Wes scenario is very worrying especially as we didn't sign an experienced back up keeper during the transfer window and if Paolo has now cooked Wes's goose then our bird is well and truly stuffed.

An emergency loan goalkeeper isn't usually hard to find. That's why a back up probably wasn't singed last week.

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Whats the betting, Di Canio will be fired if he doesnt apologise!

bradley red 1 wrote:
I have commented before that this season could all end in tears! di canio is a unstable personality in my opinion,all the good which has happened is fantastic but things are now happening that could actually destroy di canios job as a manager! this is definately a case of di canio thinking he is bigger than the club! i see trouble ahead while he is in charge and only jeremy wray has the power to sort this out,to take the goalie off is not right,unless things have been happening behind closed doors? i am baffled and listening to the managers rant on the radio fills me with worry for the club.dissapointed to say the least but the manager needs to have a look at himself because these players will not want to perform and ultimately he will lose the dressing room!!!

joey butler wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Whats the betting, Di Canio will be fired if he doesnt apologise!

Notice a lot of comments from you on here today, with nothing good to say about Swindon.

Which part of Oxford are you posting from please?

jam1 wrote:
having heard the paolo interview i'm fully behind him. Too many players getting far too complacent and not able to perform consistantly. Bit of arrogance creeping into some of the players it seems and possible the odd clique forming... Wes hasn't been great for the last few games and not taking responsibility for your mistakes and then shouting at others isn't on. Mceverley hasnt looked good for a while either really, but sort of gone unnoticed by many. Looks like bessone will get his chance now. Also i expect wardy to come in for flint and keep his place as well. Some of these players better watch out. Get your heads down lads and start working hard again, you lknow who you are

jayden wrote:

jam1 wrote:
having heard the paolo interview i'm fully behind him. Too many players getting far too complacent and not able to perform consistantly. Bit of arrogance creeping into some of the players it seems and possible the odd clique forming... Wes hasn't been great for the last few games and not taking responsibility for your mistakes and then shouting at others isn't on. Mceverley hasnt looked good for a while either really, but sort of gone unnoticed by many. Looks like bessone will get his chance now. Also i expect wardy to come in for flint and keep his place as well. Some of these players better watch out. Get your heads down lads and start working hard again, you lknow who you are

Good post

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts. Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders. Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure. He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage. Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms. PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal. Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit. Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt. After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point. A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ? PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault. I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine. After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end. Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts.

Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders.

Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure.

He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage.

Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms.

PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal.

Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit.

Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt.

After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point.

A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ?

PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault.

I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine.

After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end.

Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Jibberjab wrote:
IMO Di Canio is a dick

Malkym wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
I heard someone say on the radio that all will be forgotten when we beat Oxford.
.
3 points have just gone down the swannee, there's a potential major fall-out between the manager and our best player, and a win against a fourth rate team in a fourth rate competition will put everything right? Not for me.

Den It's a joke and a really sad indictment on some fans who seriously believe that as long as we beat Oxford in the mickey mouse cup all will be rosy again, it truly beggars belief. Don't suppose you caught the guy's name-wasn't Top Secret by any chance was it?

Chish and Fips wrote:

jayden wrote:

jam1 wrote:
having heard the paolo interview i'm fully behind him. Too many players getting far too complacent and not able to perform consistantly. Bit of arrogance creeping into some of the players it seems and possible the odd clique forming... Wes hasn't been great for the last few games and not taking responsibility for your mistakes and then shouting at others isn't on. Mceverley hasnt looked good for a while either really, but sort of gone unnoticed by many. Looks like bessone will get his chance now. Also i expect wardy to come in for flint and keep his place as well. Some of these players better watch out. Get your heads down lads and start working hard again, you lknow who you are

Good post

Whilst yes agreed - wouldn't it be better to keep your feelings and thoughts out of the media and sort them in a cool calm and collective manner behind closed doors.

Chish and Fips wrote:

jayden wrote:

jam1 wrote: having heard the paolo interview i'm fully behind him. Too many players getting far too complacent and not able to perform consistantly. Bit of arrogance creeping into some of the players it seems and possible the odd clique forming... Wes hasn't been great for the last few games and not taking responsibility for your mistakes and then shouting at others isn't on. Mceverley hasnt looked good for a while either really, but sort of gone unnoticed by many. Looks like bessone will get his chance now. Also i expect wardy to come in for flint and keep his place as well. Some of these players better watch out. Get your heads down lads and start working hard again, you lknow who you are

Good post

Whilst yes agreed - wouldn't it be better to keep your feelings and thoughts out of the media and sort them in a cool calm and collective manner behind closed doors.

Jibberjab wrote:
IMO Di Canio is a dick

RobinRobin wrote:
It's only one defeat - but for PDC it needs explaining. The same team as Tuesday (almost), the same talent, the same fitness, a weaker opponent, so there's only one thing that can be different: the players' determination and attitude. According to PDC in his interview it's happened twice now. At Hartlepool (after Brighton) and today (after Stoke) - and according to him he knows the reason and he's working on it to make sure it doesn't happen again. Let's give him chance to show that he knows how to do it. Patience people. It's a long season.

Oxon-Red wrote:

chalkswindon wrote: I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts. Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders. Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure. He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage. Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms. PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal. Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit. Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt. After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point. A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ? PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault. I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine. After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end. Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Thank you Chalk, very good account. People forget that Paolo has subbed players very early in matches in the past. I think the difference this time is that it was Wes. If it had been Rooney would there have been such a reaction ? I posted above that as a positive it has given Leigh some very valuable experience. Both are young and will make mistakes, I put Stoke's first goal on Tuesday down to a mistake from Wes. He has to learn from this and I wonder if the bottle kick was annoyance at himself (I hope so). I don't see distance and lack of matches seen as a reason for not posting, please visit the board more often as your input has been quality today. COYMR

Oxon-Red wrote:

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts. Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders. Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure. He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage. Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms. PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal. Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit. Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt. After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point. A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ? PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault. I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine. After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end. Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Thank you Chalk, very good account.

People forget that Paolo has subbed players very early in matches in the past. I think the difference this time is that it was Wes. If it had been Rooney would there have been such a reaction ?

I posted above that as a positive it has given Leigh some very valuable experience. Both are young and will make mistakes, I put Stoke's first goal on Tuesday down to a mistake from Wes. He has to learn from this and I wonder if the bottle kick was annoyance at himself (I hope so).

I don't see distance and lack of matches seen as a reason for not posting, please visit the board more often as your input has been quality today.

COYMR

Malkym wrote:

bradley red 1 wrote:
I have commented before that this season could all end in tears! di canio is a unstable personality in my opinion,all the good which has happened is fantastic but things are now happening that could actually destroy di canios job as a manager! this is definately a case of di canio thinking he is bigger than the club! i see trouble ahead while he is in charge and only jeremy wray has the power to sort this out,to take the goalie off is not right,unless things have been happening behind closed doors? i am baffled and listening to the managers rant on the radio fills me with worry for the club.dissapointed to say the least but the manager needs to have a look at himself because these players will not want to perform and ultimately he will lose the dressing room!!!

Excellent post Bradley and oxon r we have now heard pdc's rant including a cuss or two. We all know that Wray took a huge gamble in appointing him and this and recent affrays with players won't do his cv or the club any good. I backed him 100% re Caddis but I fear he's lost the plot here with Wes. If he was hacked off with the lad's performance wait till half time have a word pull him off and tell him why. JW really needs as others have said to sit down and tell Paolo that these bust ups can't go on. Wes was the primary reason IMO why we won promotion and by miles the best Town keeper I've seen and that includes the two D's. JW must realise Wes is vital to the cause. Given there are no other underlying factors that pre-empted Pdc's rant then I wouldn't blame Wes if he said stuff it and walked away.

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

candlestrobe wrote:
I might be wrong, but Wes Foderingham's twitter feed looks like it shows he was posting tweets well into the early hours of this morning (3.00 am).

tanvardy wrote:
Preston fan here. You guys don't need to worry you will win far more than you'll lose this season. Great support passionate manager good footballing side. We've been waiting to do that to somebody in the league this season it just happened to be you. PDC was hilarious today arguing with everybody even our supporters. but he really is very passionate about Swindon so don't knock him to much. My prediction is that we wilboth be in the top six come the end of the season. I just hope that we are automatics because we don't do playoffs very well. Good luck for the rest of the season guys. See you at your place in Feb.

paddyblue wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

Oh dear! Don't believe for one minute Swindon fans blame the keeper, I think they will be behind him 100% if anyone needs to rein it in and apologise its the mad manager, but then I've always said he was unstable. Plus knocking your players confidence isn't the way forward, then again it's his way or no way, ask caddis?

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

tanvardy wrote:
Preston fan here. You guys don't need to worry you will win far more than you'll lose this season. Great support passionate manager good footballing side. We've been waiting to do that to somebody in the league this season it just happened to be you. PDC was hilarious today arguing with everybody even our supporters. but he really is very passionate about Swindon so don't knock him to much. My prediction is that we wilboth be in the top six come the end of the season. I just hope that we are automatics because we don't do playoffs very well. Good luck for the rest of the season guys. See you at your place in Feb.

Fairplay to ya...
A very bad day at the office 2day but thats life and we will be back BIGGER AND BETTER...
good luck for the rest of the season BUT hope we finish above your lot..
.
ps Yes Paolo is a nutter

tifosi wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

tanvardy wrote:
Preston fan here. You guys don't need to worry you will win far more than you'll lose this season. Great support passionate manager good footballing side. We've been waiting to do that to somebody in the league this season it just happened to be you. PDC was hilarious today arguing with everybody even our supporters. but he really is very passionate about Swindon so don't knock him to much. My prediction is that we wilboth be in the top six come the end of the season. I just hope that we are automatics because we don't do playoffs very well. Good luck for the rest of the season guys. See you at your place in Feb.

Fairplay to ya...
A very bad day at the office 2day but thats life and we will be back BIGGER AND BETTER...
good luck for the rest of the season BUT hope we finish above your lot..
.
ps Yes Paolo is a nutter

Tanvardy - a club with your proud history and tradition needs to be higher than League 2. It seems that you're going to be. We'll be with you if Paulo can calm down a bit.

paddyblue wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote: Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

Oh dear! Don't believe for one minute Swindon fans blame the keeper, I think they will be behind him 100% if anyone needs to rein it in and apologise its the mad manager, but then I've always said he was unstable. Plus knocking your players confidence isn't the way forward, then again it's his way or no way, ask caddis?

joey butler wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote:
Whats the betting, Di Canio will be fired if he doesnt apologise!

Notice a lot of comments from you on here today, with nothing good to say about Swindon.

Which part of Oxford are you posting from please?

Oxon-Red wrote:
I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue.

People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait.

Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

CAROLYN1962 wrote:
WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS THAT DICANIO HAS GOT TO BIG FOR HIS BOOTS.1ST TIMLIN WHICH HE GOT AWAY WITH.THEN CLARKE WHO HAD ONLY JUST JOINED THEN TENHUE WHO WAS ONLY ON LOAN THEN HE PICKED ON CADDIS BUT NOW BY DOING THAT HE HAS SPLIT THE CAMP WITH SEVERAL PLAYERS SIDING WITH CADDIS.ME I PREFER STFC RATHER THAN DICANIO FC.MR WRAY PLEASE SORT THIS BEFORE ITS TO LATE AND DO WHATS BEST FOR STFC.

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable.
But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat.
i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!!
so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat?
This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it.
Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing
For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget.
I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today?
I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care
We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable.
But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat.
i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!!
so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat?
This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it.
Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing
For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget.
I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today?
I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care
We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

tifosi wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

tanvardy wrote:
Preston fan here. You guys don't need to worry you will win far more than you'll lose this season. Great support passionate manager good footballing side. We've been waiting to do that to somebody in the league this season it just happened to be you. PDC was hilarious today arguing with everybody even our supporters. but he really is very passionate about Swindon so don't knock him to much. My prediction is that we wilboth be in the top six come the end of the season. I just hope that we are automatics because we don't do playoffs very well. Good luck for the rest of the season guys. See you at your place in Feb.

Fairplay to ya...
A very bad day at the office 2day but thats life and we will be back BIGGER AND BETTER...
good luck for the rest of the season BUT hope we finish above your lot..
.
ps Yes Paolo is a nutter

Tanvardy - a club with your proud history and tradition needs to be higher than League 2. It seems that you're going to be. We'll be with you if Paulo can calm down a bit.

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable. But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat. i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!! so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat? This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it. Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget. I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today? I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable. But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat. i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!! so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat? This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it. Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget. I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today? I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

gibbo1012 wrote:
You do not sub a keeper for having a bad game after twenty minutes.

How many times has fodders kept us in games since he has been here !!

I think there has been something brewing between paolo and fodders as he was going mental at him against mk dons and Stoke about his distribution.

Just hope we don't have another caddis issue as Wes is a great player who we need !!

But sitting in the stands with Rooney won't help the matter

gibbo1012 wrote:
You do not sub a keeper for having a bad game after twenty minutes. How many times has fodders kept us in games since he has been here !! I think there has been something brewing between paolo and fodders as he was going mental at him against mk dons and Stoke about his distribution. Just hope we don't have another caddis issue as Wes is a great player who we need !! But sitting in the stands with Rooney won't help the matter

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable.
But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat.
i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!!
so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat?
This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it.
Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing
For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget.
I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today?
I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care
We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

Oxon-Red wrote:

paddyblue wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote: Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

Oh dear! Don't believe for one minute Swindon fans blame the keeper, I think they will be behind him 100% if anyone needs to rein it in and apologise its the mad manager, but then I've always said he was unstable. Plus knocking your players confidence isn't the way forward, then again it's his way or no way, ask caddis?

Quel Surprise, its Paddyblue !

Things will be okay now as Paddy has come to give us his valued opinion.

It must be nearly a year since you posted. How is your syndicate ?

Lazaat wrote:
Thanks to the Preston fan for some good fair posts on here. The post from the Town fan who lives in Oldham pretty much sums things up accurately.

Wes did make a bad mistake for the first goal, with the Preston player charging towards him he took a touch before trying to punt the ball upfield, amazing and very silly thing to do! Having said that I think he is a brilliant keeper but I don't think it is right to slag of Paolo on here, he is the manager and we should all back him 100%, as another poster said he came over to us at end of game and asked us to stop clapping him because today was his fault.

I think Rooney is now finished with us, he was very very poor in the 1st half and apart from 1 decent cross he did nothing! Jay at left back was awful too, he was run ragged and looked very tired and dispirited, but up to now has been very good for us! Bostock improved the team when he came on and caused them big problems. The whole back 4 struggled today with little help from our midfield, who also provided few opportunities for our front 2.

I'm not too down as I know we will do a lot better and the season has a very very long way to go. I am disappointed so many Town fans are criticising our manager after what he has done for this club! At least Paulo has the courage to make difficult decisions, mostly they work. And finally as I was there I can tell all you guys who didn't go that we were beaten by a very good Preston team who will definitely be up there challenging this season!

jayden wrote:

Lazaat wrote: Thanks to the Preston fan for some good fair posts on here. The post from the Town fan who lives in Oldham pretty much sums things up accurately. Wes did make a bad mistake for the first goal, with the Preston player charging towards him he took a touch before trying to punt the ball upfield, amazing and very silly thing to do! Having said that I think he is a brilliant keeper but I don't think it is right to slag of Paolo on here, he is the manager and we should all back him 100%, as another poster said he came over to us at end of game and asked us to stop clapping him because today was his fault. I think Rooney is now finished with us, he was very very poor in the 1st half and apart from 1 decent cross he did nothing! Jay at left back was awful too, he was run ragged and looked very tired and dispirited, but up to now has been very good for us! Bostock improved the team when he came on and caused them big problems. The whole back 4 struggled today with little help from our midfield, who also provided few opportunities for our front 2. I'm not too down as I know we will do a lot better and the season has a very very long way to go. I am disappointed so many Town fans are criticising our manager after what he has done for this club! At least Paulo has the courage to make difficult decisions, mostly they work. And finally as I was there I can tell all you guys who didn't go that we were beaten by a very good Preston team who will definitely be up there challenging this season!

As always good post thanks lazaat.

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts.

Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders.

Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure.

He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage.

Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms.

PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal.

Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit.

Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt.

After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point.

A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ?

PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault.

I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine.

After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end.

Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right.

However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none.

Same with Rogers me thinks.

They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru.

COYMR

paddyblue wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

paddyblue wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote: Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

Oh dear! Don't believe for one minute Swindon fans blame the keeper, I think they will be behind him 100% if anyone needs to rein it in and apologise its the mad manager, but then I've always said he was unstable. Plus knocking your players confidence isn't the way forward, then again it's his way or no way, ask caddis?

Quel Surprise, its Paddyblue ! Things will be okay now as Paddy has come to give us his valued opinion. It must be nearly a year since you posted. How is your syndicate ?

Now now, I haven't slated your team, infact I defend them, i have stayed away and given your god and saviour the benefit of the doubt but I knew it wouldn't be long before he went mad. He embrasses the team the fans and himself with his schoolboy tantrums bad man management and is not a good advert for Swindon at all, he not only bullies and knocks players confidence but publicly outs them so do you really think players want to come and play under this pressure? Maybe he should be subbed for a few games for his unprofessional behaviour, so let the circus continue with paolo the clown!

paddyblue wrote:

BonzoDogDooDa wrote: Di Canio just said on radio that if Wes doesnt apologise to the fans hese out!

Oh dear! Don't believe for one minute Swindon fans blame the keeper, I think they will be behind him 100% if anyone needs to rein it in and apologise its the mad manager, but then I've always said he was unstable. Plus knocking your players confidence isn't the way forward, then again it's his way or no way, ask caddis?

mancrobin wrote:

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts.

Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders.

Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure.

He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage.

Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms.

PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal.

Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit.

Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt.

After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point.

A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ?

PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault.

I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine.

After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end.

Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Having been at the game today, I would would agree with much of this post and glad to hear Fods was interacting with the fans.

A few further points to add...

The biggest factor today was a chap called Jeffrey Monakana. What a player. He ripped Town apart and the defence were not up to it. That's why McEverley, McCormack, Fods etc struggled. A good manager would have sorted that problem out as a priority.

If Fods has been showing poor form and bad attitude for a while why has no new keeper been bought? Why did he start today. I've no seen this bad form. he is the best keeper we've had for years. He made one mistake today and credit to the Town fans who got behind him by chanting his name. Shame on an immature, arrogant manager who made a disgraceful decision by bringing him off.

This club is to big for DiCanio. I think it's time he went to one of these Premiership clubs who are desperate for his talents. That would be fine by me.

mrclick wrote:
might as well have my quids worth, fair point PDC makes why not sub a keeper if he is having a bad game. I don't like the humiliation aspect of this "say sorry to the fans" - no need for this at all. We've all seen Wes and the rest play and I think everyone would agreed they want to win and are happy to play for the shirt much more so than in recent years. Hopefully this will all be done and dusted tomorrow in training and lessons learned from it PDC should have rotated the squad a little more, and should have bought a keeper to give Wes a rest as well

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Den,

I mentioned it because it sounded like a number of comments from people on this board with some jumping to conclusions without hearing the full story.

I do not necessarily support the way Paolo does certain things, though it may seem so from some of my posts, but some have been too quick to jump in and say it was wrong, that enough was enough etc.

Wes is a good keeper but is he great ?

Paolo is a good manager but is he great ?

Both are very early into their prospective careers and both have a lot to learn. Do we really want to turn into a set of fans that wants rid of people as soon as they make a mistake.

Probably not a good way of putting things but both have to learn from today and I am happy to give PDC the benefit of the doubt mainly because of the football and success I have witnessed since his arrival.

I am also a bit dubious of the title that has been bestowed on Wes. In some people's eyes there is only one that has that honour at the CG and he has had a stand named after him and played for more than a season to earn it.

I may upset a few with that statement but it is my view and I don't want to see us turn to into Liverpool as we will never make progress by constantly changing our manager.

COYMR

gibbo1012 wrote:
You do not sub a keeper for having a bad game after twenty minutes.

How many times has fodders kept us in games since he has been here !!

I think there has been something brewing between paolo and fodders as he was going mental at him against mk dons and Stoke about his distribution.

Just hope we don't have another caddis issue as Wes is a great player who we need !!

But sitting in the stands with Rooney won't help the matter

joey butler wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Den, I mentioned it because it sounded like a number of comments from people on this board with some jumping to conclusions without hearing the full story. I do not necessarily support the way Paolo does certain things, though it may seem so from some of my posts, but some have been too quick to jump in and say it was wrong, that enough was enough etc. Wes is a good keeper but is he great ? Paolo is a good manager but is he great ? Both are very early into their prospective careers and both have a lot to learn. Do we really want to turn into a set of fans that wants rid of people as soon as they make a mistake. Probably not a good way of putting things but both have to learn from today and I am happy to give PDC the benefit of the doubt mainly because of the football and success I have witnessed since his arrival. I am also a bit dubious of the title that has been bestowed on Wes. In some people's eyes there is only one that has that honour at the CG and he has had a stand named after him and played for more than a season to earn it. I may upset a few with that statement but it is my view and I don't want to see us turn to into Liverpool as we will never make progress by constantly changing our manager. COYMR

Excellent well balanced post Wizard, other posters would to well to study it.

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Den,

I mentioned it because it sounded like a number of comments from people on this board with some jumping to conclusions without hearing the full story.

I do not necessarily support the way Paolo does certain things, though it may seem so from some of my posts, but some have been too quick to jump in and say it was wrong, that enough was enough etc.

Wes is a good keeper but is he great ?

Paolo is a good manager but is he great ?

Both are very early into their prospective careers and both have a lot to learn. Do we really want to turn into a set of fans that wants rid of people as soon as they make a mistake.

Probably not a good way of putting things but both have to learn from today and I am happy to give PDC the benefit of the doubt mainly because of the football and success I have witnessed since his arrival.

I am also a bit dubious of the title that has been bestowed on Wes. In some people's eyes there is only one that has that honour at the CG and he has had a stand named after him and played for more than a season to earn it.

I may upset a few with that statement but it is my view and I don't want to see us turn to into Liverpool as we will never make progress by constantly changing our manager.

COYMR

mancrobin wrote:

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts.

Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders.

Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure.

He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage.

Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms.

PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal.

Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit.

Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt.

After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point.

A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ?

PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault.

I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine.

After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end.

Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Having been at the game today, I would would agree with much of this post and glad to hear Fods was interacting with the fans.

A few further points to add...

The biggest factor today was a chap called Jeffrey Monakana. What a player. He ripped Town apart and the defence were not up to it. That's why McEverley, McCormack, Fods etc struggled. A good manager would have sorted that problem out as a priority.

If Fods has been showing poor form and bad attitude for a while why has no new keeper been bought? Why did he start today. I've no seen this bad form. he is the best keeper we've had for years. He made one mistake today and credit to the Town fans who got behind him by chanting his name. Shame on an immature, arrogant manager who made a disgraceful decision by bringing him off.

This club is to big for DiCanio. I think it's time he went to one of these Premiership clubs who are desperate for his talents. That would be fine by me.

Cookie43 wrote:
Firstly i have chose not to comment on here for a while as a lot of the posts on here are just to predictable.
But having been to every game so far this season and reading some of the predictable drivel as expected on here after a defeat.
i feel i need to today was awful not at the races in 1st half better when bostock came on but all to late. Wes has not been great this season. If a outfield player is having a bad game or games we all shout get him off!!!
so whats the difference when a goalie is having a bad game or games the difference is Paulo is brave enough to hall them off. Wes deserved to be subbed and before it starts i am a huge Wes fan (who isn't) but he has no right to stay on the pitch anymore than the outfield players. De Vita gets subbed nearly every game but does he storm off like a spoilt brat?
This was a wake up call and show the players they do not just have to turn up maybe the win at stoke made them think they are better than they are Preston taught them a lesson lets hope they learn from it.
Di Canio saw this and was angry at their attitude and lack luster performance and i am behind his decisions all the way yes he is hot headed and his passion is amazing
For us fans who went to Stoke his passion at the end was truely something i will never forget.
I wonder to all of you slagging him off on here actually went to Stoke or today?
I am sure i will get a lot of flack but i do not care
We are Paulo's Red and white Army!!!!!

Steve. Brentford wrote:
The result is secondary to me, What ever happened to, we win together, we lose together.

Lots of people saying "Wes as not been good this season" nobody said that before today's game,i admit i was not there today i was at Stoke and i have kept up on here,i repeat today is the first time anyone has said Wes has been off form,i also think if this has been the case WHY have we not signed another keeper before today?
I love what our manager has done,i love his passion determination and his no no nonsense style of management however no-one is always right.
I hope ( like most i expect) this shat blows over and togetherness and unity returns to the ranks and we march on and complete the job in hand.

Terryswin wrote:

mancrobin wrote:

chalkswindon wrote:
I dont normally comment on here as Im a Swindon fan who lives in Blackpool and dont get to see Town enough to feel I can comment however went to the game today and Im back home now and here is my thoughts.

Town started dreadful the distribution from the back four was appalling, especially Wes who is usually very good. McCormack had strong words with him about it and Wes just struggled his shoulders.

Wes was at fault for the first goal and he then tried to hurry things along with quick throws out which werent working. I think he was rushing rightly so to try and make up for his mistake. However this was putting us under alot of pressure.

He threw the ball out at someone who wasnt even looking at this point PDC lept up and screamed to Bedwell who was warming up to get ready to come on. Bedwell didnt even have his jersey on at this stage.

Fods kicked a water bottle onto the pitch in temper as he walked straight down the touchline to the changing rooms.

PDC made an emotional and irrational decision at this stage, which Im sure he regretted as Bedwell should have done better for the 3rd goal.

Generally Town were all at sea no talking between the back simple passes that were constantly underhit.

Jay Mceverley was awful, Its been a long time since Ive seen a poor performance from anyone in a town shirt.

After half time Fods and Rooney came into the stands Fods was in the stand the other side of the netting which was next to the town fans however Rooney came and sat right amongst the fans and in fact was sat on the steps at one point.

A poor performance from Town probably an aftermath of Stoke which begs the question why not rotate the team a bit more ?

PDC came over to the town fans at the end and said Sorry blame me not the players it was his fault.

I found this very humble of the man, and It actually sent a shiver down my spine.

After the game Fods was signing shirts for the fans in the away end which was a nice touch just hope this isnt the end.

Only bright spark for me was the introduction of Bostock who did a great job when he came on.

Having been at the game today, I would would agree with much of this post and glad to hear Fods was interacting with the fans.

A few further points to add...

The biggest factor today was a chap called Jeffrey Monakana. What a player. He ripped Town apart and the defence were not up to it. That's why McEverley, McCormack, Fods etc struggled. A good manager would have sorted that problem out as a priority.

If Fods has been showing poor form and bad attitude for a while why has no new keeper been bought? Why did he start today. I've no seen this bad form. he is the best keeper we've had for years. He made one mistake today and credit to the Town fans who got behind him by chanting his name. Shame on an immature, arrogant manager who made a disgraceful decision by bringing him off.

This club is to big for DiCanio. I think it's time he went to one of these Premiership clubs who are desperate for his talents. That would be fine by me.

P D C Was right ,,,,, wes got a bit big headed, thinking he was a cert to have place in the team. He did have a bad game at stoke. but the result covered his performance. Today he had bad ten minutes,,,,, and when he went of the pitch, his attitude was totally out of order... I agree with P D C .on this...........I back P D C , all the time ,,,, best manager since ,LOU

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Den, I mentioned it because it sounded like a number of comments from people on this board with some jumping to conclusions without hearing the full story. I do not necessarily support the way Paolo does certain things, though it may seem so from some of my posts, but some have been too quick to jump in and say it was wrong, that enough was enough etc. Wes is a good keeper but is he great ? Paolo is a good manager but is he great ? Both are very early into their prospective careers and both have a lot to learn. Do we really want to turn into a set of fans that wants rid of people as soon as they make a mistake. Probably not a good way of putting things but both have to learn from today and I am happy to give PDC the benefit of the doubt mainly because of the football and success I have witnessed since his arrival. I am also a bit dubious of the title that has been bestowed on Wes. In some people's eyes there is only one that has that honour at the CG and he has had a stand named after him and played for more than a season to earn it. I may upset a few with that statement but it is my view and I don't want to see us turn to into Liverpool as we will never make progress by constantly changing our manager. COYMR

Yes, sorry Oxon. I put that post up a bit too hastily. I do understand the comparison you were making. . I agree entirely with your comments here, but I do remain concerned that PDC is a firework with its blue touchpaper permanently lit. He has us (well, me, at least) constantly on edge, wondering what and when the next explosion will be. I think he just has to rein it in a bit, otherwise we are going to have an endless succession of these fall-outs - and we haven't even reached the first altercation of the season with the FA yet! . You are right of course that Foderingham has a very long way to go before he gets anywhere the legendary status of the great man. However, I also continue to believe that he's the best keeper we've had in the 50 years since I saw my first Town game. Perhaps he was poor today; so was Peter Downsborough occasionally and so was Fraser Digby. I think we would be hard pressed to find a single incident in the history of substitutions anywhere in football where a goalkeeper has been replaced because of poor form when there was just over 20 minutes on the clock. . I very much hope I'm wrong about this but I get the impression that there will be no meeting of minds between Foderingham and Di Canio.

Oi Den! wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:
The result is secondary to me, What ever happened to, we win together, we lose together.

Lots of people saying "Wes as not been good this season" nobody said that before today's game,i admit i was not there today i was at Stoke and i have kept up on here,i repeat today is the first time anyone has said Wes has been off form,i also think if this has been the case WHY have we not signed another keeper before today?
I love what our manager has done,i love his passion determination and his no no nonsense style of management however no-one is always right.
I hope ( like most i expect) this shat blows over and togetherness and unity returns to the ranks and we march on and complete the job in hand.

Good post Steve. I was actually expecting a defeat today. Preston are a decent side, rejuvenated by Westley. It was never going to be easy. But I thought it would involve a spirited performance and a hard-fought odd goal defeat, not a tame surrender accompanied by another washing of our dirty laundry in public. Yes, we need to win together and lose together. And I don't see how we can be together if the manager rubbishes his players in public like he did today.

Oxon-Red wrote:

joey butler wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote: I have just heard Liverpool fans ranting on Five Live that they want their new manager out after 3 games because Andy Carroll has gone to West Ham and he hasn't got a clue. People expect too much sometimes and are not prepared to wait. Seems to me that they deserve all they get, bring King Kenny back !

Should have stuck with Hodgson.

Not sure if you said that in jest or not but I think you are right. However Hodgson was not born in Liverpool nor did he play them so you get one chance, none. Same with Rogers me thinks. They'd probably be happy with the kit man as manager though, he's scouse thru and thru. COYMR

Chaps, why are you bothered about what's happening at Liverpool?

Den, I mentioned it because it sounded like a number of comments from people on this board with some jumping to conclusions without hearing the full story. I do not necessarily support the way Paolo does certain things, though it may seem so from some of my posts, but some have been too quick to jump in and say it was wrong, that enough was enough etc. Wes is a good keeper but is he great ? Paolo is a good manager but is he great ? Both are very early into their prospective careers and both have a lot to learn. Do we really want to turn into a set of fans that wants rid of people as soon as they make a mistake. Probably not a good way of putting things but both have to learn from today and I am happy to give PDC the benefit of the doubt mainly because of the football and success I have witnessed since his arrival. I am also a bit dubious of the title that has been bestowed on Wes. In some people's eyes there is only one that has that honour at the CG and he has had a stand named after him and played for more than a season to earn it. I may upset a few with that statement but it is my view and I don't want to see us turn to into Liverpool as we will never make progress by constantly changing our manager. COYMR

Excellent well balanced post Wizard, other posters would to well to study it.

Joey,

I appreciate your comment but I hope your reference to Wizard was in error.

I don't have a need to have multiple identities so please don't accuse me of being Jock, Wiz whatever. I am Oxon Red, I came on this board when 606 closed down as Sap, Red Gollum and Mondeaux among others can testify.

COYMR