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Tug of war for Bostock
6:00am Tuesday 12th June 2012 in Sport By Andy Warren
Tug of war for Bostock
SWINDON boss Paolo Di Canio is still confident of bringing former loanee Jay McEveley back to the County Ground, but admitted there are hurdles in the way of any potential deal for midfielder John Bostock.
The pair made their Swindon debuts in the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy final defeat to Chesterfield in March having joined the club on temporary deals, and both went on to play a part in Town’s League Two title victory.
Left back McEveley is available for free as he is at the end of his contract with Barnsley, while Swindon are pursuing another loan move for Tottenham midfielder Bostock, who still has another year to run on his deal at White Hart Lane.
Di Canio is continuing to work on a deal for McEveley, but believes the Premier League club’s desire for Bostock to spend pre-season with them could scupper any potential return.
“There are two different situations,” Di Canio said.
“With McEveley, we’re still in contact and I want to speak to him for different reasons. I want to keep him, he’s free, and there should be no problem with him.
“With Bostock the problem is only the pre-season because normally the top clubs want to keep the players for the pre-season and maybe give them a loan after the pre-season.”
Di Canio values pre-season preparation highly, and if a deal can be done he is keen for Bostock to prepare for the new campaign with the rest of his squad.
“To be honest, I don’t like this because now everybody knows the way we train and everybody knows for me it’s crucial - the first period of the season, where for 25 days you build not only the condition and the fitness but the way you play.
“Especially if you want to try to do something different with the player, to teach him how to prepare, to change maybe his position.
“If they don’t accept to give me the player before pre-season I find it difficult.
“Maybe in the future we can discuss about this but in my opinion I would have him before. In this moment we are talking with them and we’ll see what’s going on. I would like to have Bostock, I like him.”
Comments(56)
London Red
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6:17am Tue 12 Jun 12
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They will probably post an article on the budget and balancing act of shifting 5 on to get in the 8 he wants tomorrow which was also on player last week
who am i
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6:26am Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:They have to print something and not everybody has access to player.......
This is all from the player interview last week - really is a slow news period
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They will probably post an article on the budget and balancing act of shifting 5 on to get in the 8 he wants tomorrow which was also on player last week
Rebel_phish
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6:57am Tue 12 Jun 12
We know jay is on a free, so should be able to sign.
We know John has a year left at Spurs and there are issues to be sorted.
Just tell us that Jay and John, or anybody else, has signed.
jayden
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7:00am Tue 12 Jun 12
Lazaat
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7:05am Tue 12 Jun 12
dreamofacleansheet2
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7:12am Tue 12 Jun 12
Hope Paolo can work his magic and then sign him on a permanent deal in January or end of season.
Back to back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.
Rhs Boydy
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7:21am Tue 12 Jun 12
I can understand Paolo wanting Bostock now but I reckon we'll still get him come August.
Wilesy
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7:27am Tue 12 Jun 12
In other breaking news, Lee Holmes signs for Preston.....
EastleazeRed
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7:41am Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red
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7:57am Tue 12 Jun 12
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He wants Bostock to be involved so he knows what his role will be and how to play with us rather than coming and learning during the season
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Especially as he wants to convert him into a second striker
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We saw against PV he has potential to do that - but still has a lot to learn as PdC was bellowing orders at him as to where to position himself or what runs to make - which will be better in training and pre-season games than the opener
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Why it might be a show stopper is he might line up someone else in the meantime
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Parkin would be good at this level and being Cardiff based is fairly "local"
London Red
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8:01am Tue 12 Jun 12
35yrRED
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8:07am Tue 12 Jun 12
toshman
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8:31am Tue 12 Jun 12
Rebel_phish wrote:If there isn't any news they can't just make it up
This is the reasons I stopped buying the Adver. As a newspaper, it does lack news.
We know jay is on a free, so should be able to sign.
We know John has a year left at Spurs and there are issues to be sorted.
Just tell us that Jay and John, or anybody else, has signed.
Rebel_phish
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8:49am Tue 12 Jun 12
toshman wrote:Tosh, not saying that at all. If there is no new news then fine, they cant print it.
Rebel_phish wrote:If there isn't any news they can't just make it up
This is the reasons I stopped buying the Adver. As a newspaper, it does lack news.
We know jay is on a free, so should be able to sign.
We know John has a year left at Spurs and there are issues to be sorted.
Just tell us that Jay and John, or anybody else, has signed.
And heaven forbid that any paper should feel the need to print a "story" to sell copy. I mean, that thing just does not happen.
It's a personal thing, but I just don't like buying papers full of "filler stories" or rejuvinated stories.
I made a contious decision years ago not to buy news papers... unless there was an article that particulary caught my eye.... national or local, as, just by their shear nature, they can not keep up with breaking news from radio or tv, and are therefore full of stories the following day that were reported by other media means 24 hours earlier.
Having said that. I have supported the Adver for many years - just not now in recent times - by spending £100's of pounds a month advervising my business.
London Red
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9:01am Tue 12 Jun 12
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All their "news" so far is coming from BBC Wiltshire Interviews
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Do the adver not have access to anyone at the club to do their own?
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They could easily look to speak to JW, PdC, the Fitness Coach or some of the players
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At least then their fillers would actually be new
old town robin
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9:32am Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:Agree with that, there are plenty of topics the adver can focus on without feeding off the BBC.
They can't make it up no - but they could actually make some
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All their "news" so far is coming from BBC Wiltshire Interviews
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Do the adver not have access to anyone at the club to do their own?
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They could easily look to speak to JW, PdC, the Fitness Coach or some of the players
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At least then their fillers would actually be new
1. Season ticket sales, have we reached 5500
2. Who are the our main rivals for div 1, when does the fixture list come out and who do we want first game.
3 Ground development has gone quiet again, when are we going to see the plans.
4 Arrivals and departure, squad numbers, will Wes take No 1 or stick with 33
5 Will Stratton bank be open next season
6 What do the fans think about us playing in red shirts and white shorts and who likes the second strip of light blue. (new red strip not on sale until July)
7 Is Sam M on the plane to Italy like gary was last year. 18 days to go and we don't know who will be going yet.
8 What's happening on the Tahue allegation with the FA
9 how is it going with the new pitch with all this rain it should be knee high by now.
10 When will Jeremy be announced as the chairman and who else is joining the board.
A few ideas there for Sam to think about that might just generate a bit of interest or maybe not. Has he got ideas of his own, who knows.
Rebel_phish
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9:47am Tue 12 Jun 12
old town robin wrote:Now that's news. That would be a lot better than the "Lazy reporting" of late.
London Red wrote:Agree with that, there are plenty of topics the adver can focus on without feeding off the BBC.
They can't make it up no - but they could actually make some
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All their "news" so far is coming from BBC Wiltshire Interviews
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Do the adver not have access to anyone at the club to do their own?
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They could easily look to speak to JW, PdC, the Fitness Coach or some of the players
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At least then their fillers would actually be new
1. Season ticket sales, have we reached 5500
2. Who are the our main rivals for div 1, when does the fixture list come out and who do we want first game.
3 Ground development has gone quiet again, when are we going to see the plans.
4 Arrivals and departure, squad numbers, will Wes take No 1 or stick with 33
5 Will Stratton bank be open next season
6 What do the fans think about us playing in red shirts and white shorts and who likes the second strip of light blue. (new red strip not on sale until July)
7 Is Sam M on the plane to Italy like gary was last year. 18 days to go and we don't know who will be going yet.
8 What's happening on the Tahue allegation with the FA
9 how is it going with the new pitch with all this rain it should be knee high by now.
10 When will Jeremy be announced as the chairman and who else is joining the board.
A few ideas there for Sam to think about that might just generate a bit of interest or maybe not. Has he got ideas of his own, who knows.
Good points OTRobin.
who am i
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9:47am Tue 12 Jun 12
dreamofacleansheet2
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10:04am Tue 12 Jun 12
On that I do think you may see an article on the ground extension maybe starting in a years time, coming soon.
Personally I'd like to see in depth interviews with Messrs Habib, Black and any other major shareholder. Exactly what is your percentage ownership? Is this matched with % funds loaned? Why did you invest? What are you're plans for your investment? How much are you prepared to invest? How long do you see your investment horizon? How do you see your out in realising investment? What are you un/happy about? What would like to improve? Etc etc etc. Please add as you see fit?!
who am i
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10:35am Tue 12 Jun 12
Rebel_phish
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10:37am Tue 12 Jun 12
Let us not forget that this is suposed to be the close season. So news stories about our beloved STFC will be scarce.
Perhaps some of us are suffering withdraw symptoms after such a fantactic season and in the antisipation as to what is to follow.
mallorca
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10:38am Tue 12 Jun 12
Somebody mentioned John Parkin of Cardiff, last time I seen him he was so overweight and had job to run, so even if Pdc was interested his fitness would be an issue.
Any news on our incoming strikers??????
Pete59
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10:51am Tue 12 Jun 12
Wilesy
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11:00am Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:Agree but Spurs not even involving Bostock in their own pre-season may send out a very negative message to him about his Spurs future. Would be good for him to arrive as soon as poss though obviously for the the reasons you state.
It's about integration - PdC has already said a lot more technical work will go on this pre-season on top of the fitness stuff . He wants Bostock to be involved so he knows what his role will be and how to play with us rather than coming and learning during the season . Especially as he wants to convert him into a second striker . We saw against PV he has potential to do that - but still has a lot to learn as PdC was bellowing orders at him as to where to position himself or what runs to make - which will be better in training and pre-season games than the opener . Why it might be a show stopper is he might line up someone else in the meantime . Parkin would be good at this level and being Cardiff based is fairly "local"
Parkin would be a good signing, good scoring record. A few comments made by others about his mobility, but that's a bit like criticising Ronan Murray for not winning every header. To be fair it's unlikely that big target men at this level will be sprinters as well.
Stilloyal
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11:07am Tue 12 Jun 12
old town robin
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11:11am Tue 12 Jun 12
Pete59 wrote:I maybe wrong but I thought they have to register 25 players prior to the start of season, if that's the case Bostock is either included or not and if not no sense in keeping him at spurs pre-season.
Don't blame Spurs for wanting to hold on to one of their youngsters, blame Bayern Munich's inability to beat Chelsea. If Chelsea had lost, Tottenham would have been in next season's Champions League. Now Spurs are in the Euro Disney Cup instead, they will play most of their young talent in that - simples. If JB does return, it will be more likely to be next January.
LeGod
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11:11am Tue 12 Jun 12
Oxon-Red
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11:23am Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:At least an old, new article gives us a chance to post comments (good or bad) !
They can't make it up no - but they could actually make some . All their "news" so far is coming from BBC Wiltshire Interviews . Do the adver not have access to anyone at the club to do their own? . They could easily look to speak to JW, PdC, the Fitness Coach or some of the players . At least then their fillers would actually be new
COYMR
ps. BTW, I am not saying your comments are bad LR :-)
madterrier
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11:36am Tue 12 Jun 12
Wilesy wrote:I agree. It's not as if he doesn't know Bostock or what he can do. And it's not as if we didn't bring in players after the pre-season training either. How many did we use last season? 39?
I don't see why Bostock doing a Spurs pre season should be a show stopper, it's not like he would have his feet up and presumably Spurs know what they are doing.
In other breaking news, Lee Holmes signs for Preston.....
It's more a question of whether a deal can be done, because if Spurs plan to keep him (surely they won't) then Paolo is right to look elsewhere.
Seems like Spurs just being a bit pedantic. Surely they could get an indication either way.
mike1990
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11:41am Tue 12 Jun 12
alcazares
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12:22pm Tue 12 Jun 12
What is annoying is fans quoting a quote that quoted a quote and you have to scroll down for ever to find they are just making social arrangements to meet up in the pub! What ever happened to email?
Is that you Lovesey
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12:27pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Stilloyal
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12:31pm Tue 12 Jun 12
alcazares wrote:Yea, know what you mean mate :-)
As a Swindon Town Expat supporter, I love the Adver´s coverage. They are usually ahead of the official site who dont even update the team profiles. What is annoying is fans quoting a quote that quoted a quote and you have to scroll down for ever to find they are just making social arrangements to meet up in the pub! What ever happened to email?
Oi Den!
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12:39pm Tue 12 Jun 12
madterrier wrote:Redknapp is a shrewd old b*gger. Maybe he wants to take a look at Bostock to see if his spell with us has sharpened him up. It will also give him the chance to see how well he's looked after himself in the close season. Arry's first duty has to be to look after his club's interests. Seems to me that's exactly what he's doing.
Wilesy wrote:I agree. It's not as if he doesn't know Bostock or what he can do. And it's not as if we didn't bring in players after the pre-season training either. How many did we use last season? 39?
I don't see why Bostock doing a Spurs pre season should be a show stopper, it's not like he would have his feet up and presumably Spurs know what they are doing.
In other breaking news, Lee Holmes signs for Preston.....
It's more a question of whether a deal can be done, because if Spurs plan to keep him (surely they won't) then Paolo is right to look elsewhere.
Seems like Spurs just being a bit pedantic. Surely they could get an indication either way.
London Red
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12:40pm Tue 12 Jun 12
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I personally don't think it would be a negative sign by them - as if he is to play for us (or another side) for the whole season then surely it is best he trains with that side as soon as posible to "fit"
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Why bother having him train for 3 weeks and then say see you in May?
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I said then I think he will be with us in Italy and signed up in Jan so Spurs can get a buy-back / sell-on included
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PS - Bostock wouldn't need to be registered as under 21
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That makes a mockery of the whole 25 man squad as clubs only have to name 25 players over 21 - so Arsenal can exclude Ramsey, Ox, Walcott and Wilshire yet still play them - so could have a 29 man squad!
Wilesy
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12:59pm Tue 12 Jun 12
So on reflection it would definitely be useful to have Bostock and as many of the '8 new arrivals' here before the Italy trip, think Paolo said he hoped for 4 or 5.
I'm interested where Bostock will play, if 2nd striker I can see Benno missing out (assuming we are going to sign a new striker), and if AM then Ferry could miss out. Both would be big calls IMO.
RamsburyRed
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1:19pm Tue 12 Jun 12
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However, a perceptive poster above has mentioned the Europa League and the fact that Spurs are now in it. If they see him having a bright future with them, some game time in the EL would be ideal from their point of view.
smirg kcab
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2:11pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Onwards and upwards.
No news is good news.
Aargh get me a rope
smirg kcab
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2:48pm Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:london
Smirg and I were discussing this last week whether or not it had merits in Bostock being at Spurs for Pre-Season
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I personally don't think it would be a negative sign by them - as if he is to play for us (or another side) for the whole season then surely it is best he trains with that side as soon as posible to "fit"
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Why bother having him train for 3 weeks and then say see you in May?
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I said then I think he will be with us in Italy and signed up in Jan so Spurs can get a buy-back / sell-on included
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PS - Bostock wouldn't need to be registered as under 21
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That makes a mockery of the whole 25 man squad as clubs only have to name 25 players over 21 - so Arsenal can exclude Ramsey, Ox, Walcott and Wilshire yet still play them - so could have a 29 man squad!
Makes you wonder if he is part of arrys plans now niko kranjcar has left.
I was not sure if you believed me on this story last week, also I can't believe the podcast story has just came to light.
I'm also sure if we do get him (which I doubt) paolo will play him upfront, which I Believe will be the only plus factor for him wanting to come here, after all footballers want to score goals, so I'm sure he will revell in his role as I'm sure arry has never played him as a striker.
As I missed the vale game I only have seen him play at Bradford, so is he really that good?. (hope so).
As said before paolo had a sparkle in his eye when andy Williams name was mentioned to him, I read this is a done deal on July 1st, unless Something really screws the deal up.
I reckon the Williams news will be the story on wednesday as this was not mentioned today.
Onwards a d upwards
super reds
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3:58pm Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:LR, if the news is coming from BBC Wilts interviews then they're (the BBC) as slow as the adver as it was only reported on the BBC website today a full 5 hours after the adver posted it!!!!!!
They can't make it up no - but they could actually make some . All their "news" so far is coming from BBC Wiltshire Interviews . Do the adver not have access to anyone at the club to do their own? . They could easily look to speak to JW, PdC, the Fitness Coach or some of the players . At least then their fillers would actually be new
Robinonfire
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4:02pm Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red
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4:14pm Tue 12 Jun 12
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I think we will get him - as I said last week and above
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I also think we will play more of the in favour formation of 4231
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Fodders
Caddis Flint Macca McEveley
Ferry Risser/Smith
Ritchie Bostock Rooney
Benson
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Ferry to play the Schweinsteiger playmaker role
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Risser/Smith/New to play the Khedira break up play role
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Bostock to play the Ozil creator role
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Or if you want to be English the current England "442"
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With Ferry as Gerrard
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Risser/Smith/New as Parker
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Bostock as Young/Rooney
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As for PV game he was MOTM - had great upper body strength, great movement, good passing, full of running
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However - as I said above still has a lot to learn if playing more "up top" - but certainly has the potential to do it and be a real creator and chip in with 10-15 goals
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If we can land Navarro to play as the holding man I would be more than happy with that team as our starting line up
Swindon1984
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6:06pm Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:Come on, we're better than England :-P
Smirg - I did believe you I had seen them - I have the Football Leage App subscription which is really worth the money as it gives you all the Podcasts and Match highlights on your phone
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I think we will get him - as I said last week and above
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I also think we will play more of the in favour formation of 4231
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Fodders
Caddis Flint Macca McEveley
Ferry Risser/Smith
Ritchie Bostock Rooney
Benson
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Ferry to play the Schweinsteiger playmaker role
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Risser/Smith/New to play the Khedira break up play role
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Bostock to play the Ozil creator role
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Or if you want to be English the current England "442"
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With Ferry as Gerrard
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Risser/Smith/New as Parker
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Bostock as Young/Rooney
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As for PV game he was MOTM - had great upper body strength, great movement, good passing, full of running
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However - as I said above still has a lot to learn if playing more "up top" - but certainly has the potential to do it and be a real creator and chip in with 10-15 goals
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If we can land Navarro to play as the holding man I would be more than happy with that team as our starting line up
smirg kcab
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6:31pm Tue 12 Jun 12
London Red wrote:yeah agree the podcast is worth the money.
Smirg - I did believe you I had seen them - I have the Football Leage App subscription which is really worth the money as it gives you all the Podcasts and Match highlights on your phone . I think we will get him - as I said last week and above . I also think we will play more of the in favour formation of 4231 . Fodders Caddis Flint Macca McEveley Ferry Risser/Smith Ritchie Bostock Rooney Benson . Ferry to play the Schweinsteiger playmaker role . Risser/Smith/New to play the Khedira break up play role . Bostock to play the Ozil creator role . Or if you want to be English the current England "442" . With Ferry as Gerrard . . Risser/Smith/New as Parker . Bostock as Young/Rooney . As for PV game he was MOTM - had great upper body strength, great movement, good passing, full of running . However - as I said above still has a lot to learn if playing more "up top" - but certainly has the potential to do it and be a real creator and chip in with 10-15 goals . If we can land Navarro to play as the holding man I would be more than happy with that team as our starting line up
i think smith is a top top player, to step up to the plate like he did last year, its players like him who must have been in dreamland last season, to pick up a champions medal and play at wembley.
is navarro a player you like or has been linked to us?.
see jake jervis has signed an extra year for brum.
cant wait for the price on benson to be top scorer. as a flutter may be on the cards.
onwards and upwards
London Red
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6:41pm Tue 12 Jun 12
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Had a solid season in the Championship and seems to be over his injuries - would be excellent back in L1
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Then again looking at the PFA lost you could easily put together a shortlist of 20 players+ who would really add to us in pretty much every position
dreamofacleansheet2
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6:56pm Tue 12 Jun 12
There we go, cats out of the bag, I've called it!
Back t back promotions coming. Watching the birth of a managerial legend.
London Red
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7:15pm Tue 12 Jun 12
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Davis say a fee would be involved - good job they just got £3m!
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Would personally look for a buy back / sell on over a "massive" fee - £25k with 25% sell on would be better than £75-100k now
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Also looking to land Kennedy - who has not actually signed for Scunny
Jona_1985
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8:04pm Tue 12 Jun 12
mikek
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9:10pm Tue 12 Jun 12
Stratton Red
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9:31pm Tue 12 Jun 12
ciclosporindorset
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9:59pm Tue 12 Jun 12
BillyLucas4me
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10:09pm Tue 12 Jun 12
12:22pm Tue 12 Jun 12
As a Swindon Town Expat supporter, I love the Adver´s coverage. They are usually ahead of the official site who dont even update the team profiles.
What is annoying is fans quoting a quote that quoted a quote and you have to scroll down for ever to find they are just making social arrangements to meet up in the pub! What ever happened to email?”
Some just opine 'I agree' or 'I disagree'!!!
hertz
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11:19pm Tue 12 Jun 12
aussieg
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1:05am Wed 13 Jun 12
BillyLucas4me wrote:I to am a expat--but the adver at times give some good updates--but also some old hat stuff--other clubs are signing players--we may hear soon who these three players that PDC has offered contracts to--if you look at this site--check the club logo and see what team it has--not last years--PDC will build a good side--for this league 1
alcazares says...
12:22pm Tue 12 Jun 12
As a Swindon Town Expat supporter, I love the Adver´s coverage. They are usually ahead of the official site who dont even update the team profiles.
What is annoying is fans quoting a quote that quoted a quote and you have to scroll down for ever to find they are just making social arrangements to meet up in the pub! What ever happened to email?”
Some just opine 'I agree' or 'I disagree'!!!
old town robin
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11:03pm Wed 13 Jun 12
hertz wrote:You got that right Hertz, lol!
'Arry has to worry about his own future before he worries about Bostock ,
california andy says...
6:09am Tue 12 Jun 12