Kasim: 'We need to understand our roles more'

Yaser Kasim takes a shot

Yaser Kasim takes a shot

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MIDFIELDER Yaser Kasim has admitted he still feels a little lost in Town’s formation but is confident the team can make it work for them as the new season draws near.

Swindon get their League One campaign under way against Scunthorpe on Saturday and will be doing so with three centre halves flanked by two attacking wing backs.

Kasim’s role in manager Mark Cooper’s strategy is as part of the three-man central midfield, with the Iraqi admitting it is not a formation he or his teammates are particularly familiar with.

The 23-year-old is confident the squad will quickly get to grips with their new way of playing but insisted it will only come through hard work and every member of the team buying into the club’s philosophy.

“We need to do more, on the training ground, everywhere,” he said.

“We need to understand our roles a lot more and for me personally there are certain times I don’t understand what’s going on and I don’t like to be in that position on a football pitch.

“If it’s like that I don’t know how to solve the problem and in my position I have to make the play for long periods of time so we have to do a bit more.

“We have two players who maybe haven’t played in this sort of system and haven’t played with these players before, so they need to get a lot of work in and we have to look after them.

“For sure it’s not inbred for us to play this way from a young age. Some clubs play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 but not this system.

“The most important thing is the football philosophy and no matter what system you’re playing you must have a certain philosophy about your play and your passing.”

Despite his concerns, Kasim insisted he is comfortable with Town’s formation going into the Scunthorpe clash and insisted it is perhaps performances, rather than results, on which the tactics should be judged.

“I’m comfortable in any formation but we have to get it down and sorted,” he said.

“It’s all about performance because even if you have a bad performance and you win then you won’t feel as great as you should do.

“If you have a bad performance, win 2-1 and everybody’s happy, then the cracks will soon appear.

“We have to work on it, even after the first game, because footballers know that even after you take two steps forward you can take one back with a mistake.

“Everyone in the changing room wants to do it because we want to have a good season for ourselves as a group and everyone at the club.”

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7:22am Tue 5 Aug 14

old town robin says...

An honest interview from Yaser, which suggest neither he nor the rest of them totally understand the way Cooper is trying to get them to play. A big big gamble for Cooper, if they don't know yet what their role is after a pre-season of working with a back 3 of centre backs and Wes as the sweeper, it's rather worrying, but it sounds like Cooper is staking his reputation on it working, if it does fans will sing his praises, if it doesn't.............
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An honest interview from Yaser, which suggest neither he nor the rest of them totally understand the way Cooper is trying to get them to play. A big big gamble for Cooper, if they don't know yet what their role is after a pre-season of working with a back 3 of centre backs and Wes as the sweeper, it's rather worrying, but it sounds like Cooper is staking his reputation on it working, if it does fans will sing his praises, if it doesn't............. .............. old town robin
  • Score: 8

7:28am Tue 5 Aug 14

whitety says...

If it does not work taxi for cooper. Very brave choice mark hope the players dont let you down watch this space.
If it does not work taxi for cooper. Very brave choice mark hope the players dont let you down watch this space. whitety
  • Score: 6

7:32am Tue 5 Aug 14

smirg kcab says...

Not good news, even the players ain't got a clue, so what chance do the fans have.?
If the stay always reads this then it just justifies why they stay away and why they won't return.
Not good news, even the players ain't got a clue, so what chance do the fans have.? If the stay always reads this then it just justifies why they stay away and why they won't return. smirg kcab
  • Score: 4

7:51am Tue 5 Aug 14

London Red says...

We played the 352 for about 8 or 9 games at the end of last season and to great sucess - so not sure why they wouldn't understand it now - especially as most played in that system
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Ok we are tweaking the style to play a higher line and pressing and therefore certain aspects will change - like Wes acting as a sweeper keeper - but surely most is similar to last season?
We played the 352 for about 8 or 9 games at the end of last season and to great sucess - so not sure why they wouldn't understand it now - especially as most played in that system . Ok we are tweaking the style to play a higher line and pressing and therefore certain aspects will change - like Wes acting as a sweeper keeper - but surely most is similar to last season? London Red
  • Score: 10

7:53am Tue 5 Aug 14

EastleazeRed says...

Yeah ! Cheese and hame can get a bit boring , try spicing them up with a bit of pickle , experiment with different flavours , that's my advice .
Yeah ! Cheese and hame can get a bit boring , try spicing them up with a bit of pickle , experiment with different flavours , that's my advice . EastleazeRed
  • Score: 2

7:53am Tue 5 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

Still beats me why we don't play 4-4-2. I agree with OTR. The manager (or is it Power?) is taking a big gamble by complicating the game. If we struggle or play cautiously simply because we have a weak team again, there will be some understanding of Cooper's position. If we lose matches because it appears players don't understand their jobs, he will get slaughtered.
Still beats me why we don't play 4-4-2. I agree with OTR. The manager (or is it Power?) is taking a big gamble by complicating the game. If we struggle or play cautiously simply because we have a weak team again, there will be some understanding of Cooper's position. If we lose matches because it appears players don't understand their jobs, he will get slaughtered. Oi Den!
  • Score: 5

8:10am Tue 5 Aug 14

smirg kcab says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Still beats me why we don't play 4-4-2. I agree with OTR. The manager (or is it Power?) is taking a big gamble by complicating the game. If we struggle or play cautiously simply because we have a weak team again, there will be some understanding of Cooper's position. If we lose matches because it appears players don't understand their jobs, he will get slaughtered.
Looks like kasim has dropped a big bombshell den.
It looks like from the saints,Leeds game Wes will be coming out under pressure not knowing to kick-hoof or pass the ball.(didn't look good in those two games).
Wouldn't be surprised if kasim is out Saturday now due to a infected toe or any other made up excuse after speaking out.
Good to here the truth from players tho.
Looking forward to Saturday with my freebie ticket.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Still beats me why we don't play 4-4-2. I agree with OTR. The manager (or is it Power?) is taking a big gamble by complicating the game. If we struggle or play cautiously simply because we have a weak team again, there will be some understanding of Cooper's position. If we lose matches because it appears players don't understand their jobs, he will get slaughtered.[/p][/quote]Looks like kasim has dropped a big bombshell den. It looks like from the saints,Leeds game Wes will be coming out under pressure not knowing to kick-hoof or pass the ball.(didn't look good in those two games). Wouldn't be surprised if kasim is out Saturday now due to a infected toe or any other made up excuse after speaking out. Good to here the truth from players tho. Looking forward to Saturday with my freebie ticket. smirg kcab
  • Score: -4

8:10am Tue 5 Aug 14

Rednwhitewalrus699 says...

Personally I really don't like this formation, against Villa it seemed to leave the 3 CB's isolated and gave the attackers a chance to overun us on the counter. Villa just played high balls behind the wing backs and then could get an easy ball into the box, with better finishing we could have been 3 down before halftime!

A certain Paddy Madden will be playing against us on Saturday and he will take any chances that we give him so Cooper has to be more careful in his approach to that game.

Here's hoping we smash Scunny! COYR
Personally I really don't like this formation, against Villa it seemed to leave the 3 CB's isolated and gave the attackers a chance to overun us on the counter. Villa just played high balls behind the wing backs and then could get an easy ball into the box, with better finishing we could have been 3 down before halftime! A certain Paddy Madden will be playing against us on Saturday and he will take any chances that we give him so Cooper has to be more careful in his approach to that game. Here's hoping we smash Scunny! COYR Rednwhitewalrus699
  • Score: 2

8:49am Tue 5 Aug 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

I am not surprised that Yasser doesn't know his position properly, he has been playing in centre defence for much of pre season, I am not a Cooper fan and don't like the guy, but (before you happy clickers start). He has got a tough job, no money, young players and no signings, lets see what the first 10 games bring before I start ranting again....
I am not surprised that Yasser doesn't know his position properly, he has been playing in centre defence for much of pre season, I am not a Cooper fan and don't like the guy, but (before you happy clickers start). He has got a tough job, no money, young players and no signings, lets see what the first 10 games bring before I start ranting again.... Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 6

9:53am Tue 5 Aug 14

mancrobin says...

Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that.

I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days. mancrobin
  • Score: 6

11:03am Tue 5 Aug 14

bradley red 1 says...

Oh dear not the sort of comments youe want to hear s few days before the season starts I fear a long season ahead the current squad is in for a tough time with other teams withseasoned pros and hr
Oh dear not the sort of comments youe want to hear s few days before the season starts I fear a long season ahead the current squad is in for a tough time with other teams withseasoned pros and hr bradley red 1
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11:05am Tue 5 Aug 14

bradley red 1 says...

And experience.
And experience. bradley red 1
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1:12pm Tue 5 Aug 14

RamsburyRed says...

A really puzzling article in the run up to the opening game of the season. The only conclusion I can draw is that Kasim isn't happy here.
A really puzzling article in the run up to the opening game of the season. The only conclusion I can draw is that Kasim isn't happy here. RamsburyRed
  • Score: 5

1:13pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Vintage Trouble says...

Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
Personally I really don't like this formation, against Villa it seemed to leave the 3 CB's isolated and gave the attackers a chance to overun us on the counter. Villa just played high balls behind the wing backs and then could get an easy ball into the box, with better finishing we could have been 3 down before halftime! A certain Paddy Madden will be playing against us on Saturday and he will take any chances that we give him so Cooper has to be more careful in his approach to that game. Here's hoping we smash Scunny! COYR
The formation is fine, if we were getting caught out then it's the players not playing it properly. Only one wing back is supposed to attack at any one time, and if they do both go up then the DM is supposed to drop even deeper. Either way we'd still have 4 back.
[quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: Personally I really don't like this formation, against Villa it seemed to leave the 3 CB's isolated and gave the attackers a chance to overun us on the counter. Villa just played high balls behind the wing backs and then could get an easy ball into the box, with better finishing we could have been 3 down before halftime! A certain Paddy Madden will be playing against us on Saturday and he will take any chances that we give him so Cooper has to be more careful in his approach to that game. Here's hoping we smash Scunny! COYR[/p][/quote]The formation is fine, if we were getting caught out then it's the players not playing it properly. Only one wing back is supposed to attack at any one time, and if they do both go up then the DM is supposed to drop even deeper. Either way we'd still have 4 back. Vintage Trouble
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Davidsyrett says...

Not the sort of interview I would have expected with a few days to go to the start of the season.

Just looked on the Scunny Telegraph, Very positive about the new season, even wondering which players will start such has been their recent performances. With McSheffrey, Deon Burton, Madden and Neil Bishop all likely to start, this is going to be a tough opener. They're hardly going to be quaking in their boots reading this.
Not the sort of interview I would have expected with a few days to go to the start of the season. Just looked on the Scunny Telegraph, Very positive about the new season, even wondering which players will start such has been their recent performances. With McSheffrey, Deon Burton, Madden and Neil Bishop all likely to start, this is going to be a tough opener. They're hardly going to be quaking in their boots reading this. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 5

2:34pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

mancrobin wrote:
Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that.

I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lifelong red says...

" 3-5-2 is the formation we"re going with " - " this is the style of football we play " - " we"re going to play with a high line " , any more information you care to give the rest of league 1 Mr Cooper , might as well write it on a back of a post card and post it to them . What has happened to having teams monitored and setting up a plan accordingly . Nothing like a bit of flexibility .
" 3-5-2 is the formation we"re going with " - " this is the style of football we play " - " we"re going to play with a high line " , any more information you care to give the rest of league 1 Mr Cooper , might as well write it on a back of a post card and post it to them . What has happened to having teams monitored and setting up a plan accordingly . Nothing like a bit of flexibility . lifelong red
  • Score: 6

4:31pm Tue 5 Aug 14

RamsburyRed says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Not the sort of interview I would have expected with a few days to go to the start of the season.

Just looked on the Scunny Telegraph, Very positive about the new season, even wondering which players will start such has been their recent performances. With McSheffrey, Deon Burton, Madden and Neil Bishop all likely to start, this is going to be a tough opener. They're hardly going to be quaking in their boots reading this.
I agree. My concern is not just over the depth and quality of the squad - although that is worrying enough - but the general message coming from the club. Cooper says we need more work and are three or four players short, whilst openly admitting that he's not sure we'll get them in. And now this. I'm sure you could look at the local press for most league clubs and find an air of excitement and optimism emanating from them. Unless it is all a gigantic bluff to put other clubs off their guard!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Not the sort of interview I would have expected with a few days to go to the start of the season. Just looked on the Scunny Telegraph, Very positive about the new season, even wondering which players will start such has been their recent performances. With McSheffrey, Deon Burton, Madden and Neil Bishop all likely to start, this is going to be a tough opener. They're hardly going to be quaking in their boots reading this.[/p][/quote]I agree. My concern is not just over the depth and quality of the squad - although that is worrying enough - but the general message coming from the club. Cooper says we need more work and are three or four players short, whilst openly admitting that he's not sure we'll get them in. And now this. I'm sure you could look at the local press for most league clubs and find an air of excitement and optimism emanating from them. Unless it is all a gigantic bluff to put other clubs off their guard! RamsburyRed
  • Score: 3

4:57pm Tue 5 Aug 14

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that.

I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.[/p][/quote]Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch. mancrobin
  • Score: 0

5:43pm Tue 5 Aug 14

London Red says...

mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.
Both Andrew at FLIC and Sam have been saying how impressed they have been with the midfield in pre-season and how much choice Cooper has in there - Sam said it looked very creative in his tweets after Villa and that had Luongo mising - who for me is the star of the bunch
.
Kasim and Rodgers as holders
Thompson and Kasim as box to box
Luongo and Gladwin as the attacking ones
.
Could even have Gladwin in box to box as well - and Luongo - though I would prefer him to be utilised pushed further forward
.
Midfield is not and should not be a worry
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.[/p][/quote]Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.[/p][/quote]Both Andrew at FLIC and Sam have been saying how impressed they have been with the midfield in pre-season and how much choice Cooper has in there - Sam said it looked very creative in his tweets after Villa and that had Luongo mising - who for me is the star of the bunch . Kasim and Rodgers as holders Thompson and Kasim as box to box Luongo and Gladwin as the attacking ones . Could even have Gladwin in box to box as well - and Luongo - though I would prefer him to be utilised pushed further forward . Midfield is not and should not be a worry London Red
  • Score: -2

6:06pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lifelong red says...

London Red wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.
Both Andrew at FLIC and Sam have been saying how impressed they have been with the midfield in pre-season and how much choice Cooper has in there - Sam said it looked very creative in his tweets after Villa and that had Luongo mising - who for me is the star of the bunch
.
Kasim and Rodgers as holders
Thompson and Kasim as box to box
Luongo and Gladwin as the attacking ones
.
Could even have Gladwin in box to box as well - and Luongo - though I would prefer him to be utilised pushed further forward
.
Midfield is not and should not be a worry
Not sure Kasim as the holding midfielder , gave to many free kicks away in danger areas last season , not seen Rodgers yet, agree that Louis , box to box, and mass and gladwin as our more attacking options , I think Kasim looks more suited to a more attacking role than when defending , but that's just me, everyone has their own opinion.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.[/p][/quote]Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.[/p][/quote]Both Andrew at FLIC and Sam have been saying how impressed they have been with the midfield in pre-season and how much choice Cooper has in there - Sam said it looked very creative in his tweets after Villa and that had Luongo mising - who for me is the star of the bunch . Kasim and Rodgers as holders Thompson and Kasim as box to box Luongo and Gladwin as the attacking ones . Could even have Gladwin in box to box as well - and Luongo - though I would prefer him to be utilised pushed further forward . Midfield is not and should not be a worry[/p][/quote]Not sure Kasim as the holding midfielder , gave to many free kicks away in danger areas last season , not seen Rodgers yet, agree that Louis , box to box, and mass and gladwin as our more attacking options , I think Kasim looks more suited to a more attacking role than when defending , but that's just me, everyone has their own opinion. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lifelong red says...

Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present.
Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present. lifelong red
  • Score: 2

6:45pm Tue 5 Aug 14

London Red says...

lifelong red wrote:
Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present.
Agree and ideally would have loved one and most know who my choice was
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But I guess the management think we can do a job with the current bunch and must be looking to Kasim/Rodgers to play a deep role the same way Gerrard and Lampard do now - who are not defensive midfielders (Sam has said Rodgers looks like a Kasim understudy)
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Guess the idea is to be the playmaker from deep and use positioning to aid the defence rather than crunching tackles
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Whether it works or not will be seen in a few weeks/months - though it is the same trio as last season and we did OK then finishing 8th
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present.[/p][/quote]Agree and ideally would have loved one and most know who my choice was . But I guess the management think we can do a job with the current bunch and must be looking to Kasim/Rodgers to play a deep role the same way Gerrard and Lampard do now - who are not defensive midfielders (Sam has said Rodgers looks like a Kasim understudy) . Guess the idea is to be the playmaker from deep and use positioning to aid the defence rather than crunching tackles . Whether it works or not will be seen in a few weeks/months - though it is the same trio as last season and we did OK then finishing 8th London Red
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7:04pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that.

I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.
manc, I don't suggest we're short of midfielders. I'm saying we're short of the one who's going to make the difference. We could have 10 midfield players but if we didn't have the right ones, it would be no better than having 5. If I've got this wrong (let's hope so), then either at least one of last season's midfielders has made a massive leap forward or Rodgers is better than most people are expecting. And I agree of course that we're short at the back - and probably up front too.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.[/p][/quote]Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.[/p][/quote]manc, I don't suggest we're short of midfielders. I'm saying we're short of the one who's going to make the difference. We could have 10 midfield players but if we didn't have the right ones, it would be no better than having 5. If I've got this wrong (let's hope so), then either at least one of last season's midfielders has made a massive leap forward or Rodgers is better than most people are expecting. And I agree of course that we're short at the back - and probably up front too. Oi Den!
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1:15am Wed 6 Aug 14

uruguay whitey the red says...

don't forget at certain stages of last season we had good experienced or exciting talented players,ajose,ranger
,pritch,n`guessan.bu
t here we seem to have just a load of midfielders and actual teenage kids on the bench!
don't forget at certain stages of last season we had good experienced or exciting talented players,ajose,ranger ,pritch,n`guessan.bu t here we seem to have just a load of midfielders and actual teenage kids on the bench! uruguay whitey the red
  • Score: 1

7:04am Wed 6 Aug 14

red white says...

London Red wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present.
Agree and ideally would have loved one and most know who my choice was
.
But I guess the management think we can do a job with the current bunch and must be looking to Kasim/Rodgers to play a deep role the same way Gerrard and Lampard do now - who are not defensive midfielders (Sam has said Rodgers looks like a Kasim understudy)
.
Guess the idea is to be the playmaker from deep and use positioning to aid the defence rather than crunching tackles
.
Whether it works or not will be seen in a few weeks/months - though it is the same trio as last season and we did OK then finishing 8th
We'll go up as effin Champions!

Just gettin me singin head on :)
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: Still think we could do with a no nonsense ballwinner in a defensive midfield role to enable the likes of Mass- Thompson- Gladwin to get forward more and to act as a shield to the defence , it looks like we"ll need it the way things are going at present.[/p][/quote]Agree and ideally would have loved one and most know who my choice was . But I guess the management think we can do a job with the current bunch and must be looking to Kasim/Rodgers to play a deep role the same way Gerrard and Lampard do now - who are not defensive midfielders (Sam has said Rodgers looks like a Kasim understudy) . Guess the idea is to be the playmaker from deep and use positioning to aid the defence rather than crunching tackles . Whether it works or not will be seen in a few weeks/months - though it is the same trio as last season and we did OK then finishing 8th[/p][/quote]We'll go up as effin Champions! Just gettin me singin head on :) red white
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8:43am Wed 6 Aug 14

mancrobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
mancrobin wrote:
Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that.

I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.
Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.
Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.
manc, I don't suggest we're short of midfielders. I'm saying we're short of the one who's going to make the difference. We could have 10 midfield players but if we didn't have the right ones, it would be no better than having 5. If I've got this wrong (let's hope so), then either at least one of last season's midfielders has made a massive leap forward or Rodgers is better than most people are expecting. And I agree of course that we're short at the back - and probably up front too.
I guess that's where we differ Den. Whilst like Lifelong and LR, I would agree we lack a ball winner we have a very talented but young/inexperienced midfield. I saw all of them have great games last year but all were inconsistent. The exception to that was Louis who just got better.

Again, with good coaching and further development, I would be surprised if we didn't end up with the best midfield in the division...and also the best keeper.

As others have said, we are not any like as strong at present lies up front and at the back.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: Strikes me as a response to the criticism that we do not play the passing game with enough forward intent. This will enable that. I am not that worried about Kasim not feeling comfortable as we have many other candidates to take his place in midfield. I'm more worried about the non arrival of our third centre back. Would hope to hear something about that within the next few days.[/p][/quote]Interesting stuff manc. You seem to agree with the club line that we have a strong midfield. I don't see it. With or without Kasim, we are not dynamic enough in that department. Kasim himself isn't quick. As talented as Luongo is, he performs only in patches. Louis Thompson has more drive than the first two put together but needs to be more controlled. If he can do that, he could be the midfield engine we're looking for. These views are based on last season's performances of course. A number of posters said our players would be better after getting last season under their belts. Let's hope they're right and my assessment is wide if the mark.[/p][/quote]Gladwin, Rodgers....A few to choose from, whereas not the case in other areas of the pitch.[/p][/quote]manc, I don't suggest we're short of midfielders. I'm saying we're short of the one who's going to make the difference. We could have 10 midfield players but if we didn't have the right ones, it would be no better than having 5. If I've got this wrong (let's hope so), then either at least one of last season's midfielders has made a massive leap forward or Rodgers is better than most people are expecting. And I agree of course that we're short at the back - and probably up front too.[/p][/quote]I guess that's where we differ Den. Whilst like Lifelong and LR, I would agree we lack a ball winner we have a very talented but young/inexperienced midfield. I saw all of them have great games last year but all were inconsistent. The exception to that was Louis who just got better. Again, with good coaching and further development, I would be surprised if we didn't end up with the best midfield in the division...and also the best keeper. As others have said, we are not any like as strong at present lies up front and at the back. mancrobin
  • Score: 1

9:15am Wed 6 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

Seems to me we don't differ all that much manc. I'm with you 100% on Fodders and Louis Thompson. I'm also with you on the talents we have in midfield. However, I think by concentrating on the forwards and defence as weak areas, we overlook the bit that links them together. Power's insistence on a passing game, which I'm not saying is a bad thing in itself, puts a lot of emphasis on a strong midfield. Because we didn't have strength in that area last season, Cooper had to pack the midfield and achieve a form of security through numbers. A driving, inspirational midfielder (maybe even a captain) remains the missing piece of the jigsaw. Louis Thompson has the potential to be that player but is he ready? One of the main reasons we were so dull to watch for much of last season was that we had nobody in midfield who could take the game by the scruff of the neck and get things moving at pace. At the moment I fear we could be the same again this season.
Seems to me we don't differ all that much manc. I'm with you 100% on Fodders and Louis Thompson. I'm also with you on the talents we have in midfield. However, I think by concentrating on the forwards and defence as weak areas, we overlook the bit that links them together. Power's insistence on a passing game, which I'm not saying is a bad thing in itself, puts a lot of emphasis on a strong midfield. Because we didn't have strength in that area last season, Cooper had to pack the midfield and achieve a form of security through numbers. A driving, inspirational midfielder (maybe even a captain) remains the missing piece of the jigsaw. Louis Thompson has the potential to be that player but is he ready? One of the main reasons we were so dull to watch for much of last season was that we had nobody in midfield who could take the game by the scruff of the neck and get things moving at pace. At the moment I fear we could be the same again this season. Oi Den!
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