Town boss believes fans will come back

Town boss Mark Cooper

Town boss Mark Cooper

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MARK Cooper is convinced that Swindon Town’s fans will come out and back their club in force, once they’ve been shown that progress is being made in building the Robins’ squad.

Season-ticket sales have been significantly down this summer owing to the High Court hearings regarding the ownership of the club and the subsequent struggle to get new signings tied down early in the transfer window.

However, Cooper believes the supporters will quickly throw their voices behind him and his players when his main targets are officially unveiled at the County Ground.

“Obviously I can understand they want to see progress in terms of the squad and things like that,” he said. “It’s a catch 22 but if we can get those players in over the next couple of days then they’ll support us as they always do.”

Discussions continue regarding the potential signings of the Southampton pair of Jack Stephens and Jordan Turnbull, as well as Liverpool’s Brad Smith, with Cooper saying: “In terms of the players we’re going to use, it’s a pretty small group. Hence the reason we need to add to it quickly. We’ve got a small, tight-knit group and if we can add three players to it that would be great.

“Lee (Power) is very well connected in the game and we’ll sit down and discuss targets and he’ll try to get them over the line. That’s the way it works.”

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6:48am Sat 2 Aug 14

North _Swindon_Red says...

Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football.. North _Swindon_Red
  • Score: -18

7:16am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Nomis says...

You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks
You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks The Nomis
  • Score: -42

7:17am Sat 2 Aug 14

oo-r-ya? says...

North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.
[quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..[/p][/quote]The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them. oo-r-ya?
  • Score: 59

7:20am Sat 2 Aug 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
It costs me that in petrol to get to Swindon and I still think it's worth it. My season ticket is good value and many away matches are much closer to me than the County Ground so I can get to them too. I just don't get the stay away fans with STFC on their doorstep. Swindon till I die. COYMR
[quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..[/p][/quote]It costs me that in petrol to get to Swindon and I still think it's worth it. My season ticket is good value and many away matches are much closer to me than the County Ground so I can get to them too. I just don't get the stay away fans with STFC on their doorstep. Swindon till I die. COYMR Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 44

7:27am Sat 2 Aug 14

castle9 says...

oo-r-ya? wrote:
North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.
Excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..[/p][/quote]The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. castle9
  • Score: 15

7:28am Sat 2 Aug 14

castle9 says...

oo-r-ya? wrote:
North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.
Excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..[/p][/quote]The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. castle9
  • Score: 0

7:33am Sat 2 Aug 14

Davethered says...

So he believes the fans will come back , next he'll be telling us he believes in Santa.
So he believes the fans will come back , next he'll be telling us he believes in Santa. Davethered
  • Score: -41

7:48am Sat 2 Aug 14

STFC wins says...

Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late! STFC wins
  • Score: 19

7:53am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal. The Jockster
  • Score: 10

7:55am Sat 2 Aug 14

Brainy_60 says...

"We'll sit down and discuss targets" ..... Shouldn't you have done that already? Leaving it a bit late!
"We'll sit down and discuss targets" ..... Shouldn't you have done that already? Leaving it a bit late! Brainy_60
  • Score: 17

8:25am Sat 2 Aug 14

whitety says...

Not the way to sell season tickets no team as yet worth watching if i wanted to watch school kids i can do that for nothing, same standard realy look at southampton sold 92 million worth of players no one buying season tickets down there same result here but on a smaller scale. get rid of your best players get rid of your supporters at the same time.
Not the way to sell season tickets no team as yet worth watching if i wanted to watch school kids i can do that for nothing, same standard realy look at southampton sold 92 million worth of players no one buying season tickets down there same result here but on a smaller scale. get rid of your best players get rid of your supporters at the same time. whitety
  • Score: -5

8:27am Sat 2 Aug 14

castle9 says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket? castle9
  • Score: 0

8:38am Sat 2 Aug 14

oo-r-ya? says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
My point exactly - it is a matter of perspective. Everything goes up in price. If we have a limited budget then we choose where we spend our money more carefully. I also have over 100 mile round trip to home games and I am a pensioner. I don't want a medal for my support, the club is in my DNA and that's how I choose to spend my money. If you choose to not go that is your choice, just don't whinge about it.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]My point exactly - it is a matter of perspective. Everything goes up in price. If we have a limited budget then we choose where we spend our money more carefully. I also have over 100 mile round trip to home games and I am a pensioner. I don't want a medal for my support, the club is in my DNA and that's how I choose to spend my money. If you choose to not go that is your choice, just don't whinge about it. oo-r-ya?
  • Score: 23

8:50am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

castle9 wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?
Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it?
[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?[/p][/quote]Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it? The Jockster
  • Score: -3

9:02am Sat 2 Aug 14

Chish and Fips says...

The Jockster wrote:
castle9 wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?
Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it?
Thanks Jock - I wasn't aware it was on match day tickets as well.
I know I don't go out there much nowadays but did feel the concession price eased the pain a bit. Couple more years and on these rules I will qualify again.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?[/p][/quote]Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it?[/p][/quote]Thanks Jock - I wasn't aware it was on match day tickets as well. I know I don't go out there much nowadays but did feel the concession price eased the pain a bit. Couple more years and on these rules I will qualify again. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 4

9:09am Sat 2 Aug 14

sagadude says...

Dreamer!

Not until we get a new stadium like Reading. I blame Swindon council, backhanders for building Witchelstowe instead of a new stadium?

Cooper talks up the kids, then loans out Miles Storey - idiot.
Dreamer! Not until we get a new stadium like Reading. I blame Swindon council, backhanders for building Witchelstowe instead of a new stadium? Cooper talks up the kids, then loans out Miles Storey - idiot. sagadude
  • Score: -4

9:11am Sat 2 Aug 14

old town robin says...

Brainy_60 wrote:
"We'll sit down and discuss targets" ..... Shouldn't you have done that already? Leaving it a bit late!
Agreed I thought I was reading an old article when i read that. see the incomings are also down to 3 now, does that mean no new striker?
[quote][p][bold]Brainy_60[/bold] wrote: "We'll sit down and discuss targets" ..... Shouldn't you have done that already? Leaving it a bit late![/p][/quote]Agreed I thought I was reading an old article when i read that. see the incomings are also down to 3 now, does that mean no new striker? old town robin
  • Score: 3

9:13am Sat 2 Aug 14

TelSTFC says...

whitety wrote:
Not the way to sell season tickets no team as yet worth watching if i wanted to watch school kids i can do that for nothing, same standard realy look at southampton sold 92 million worth of players no one buying season tickets down there same result here but on a smaller scale. get rid of your best players get rid of your supporters at the same time.
Not sure where you get your info from about Southampton but im a Town fan living down here and the season tickets were purchased before the players were sold?
In fact the season ticket sales were put on hold due to large sales and having to catch up. Yes Saints fans are complaining now due to the players now sold but the season tickets were already bought so you are wrong,

My girlfriend is a Saints season ticket holder and all of her friends have renewed.

I wish people would post accurate stuff on here instead of misinformed comments
Anyway I will be travelling up for the first home game COYR need some signings this week though.

Match day prices won't do much to attract the casual fans im afraid this season and we need to get in these players we are targeting very soon.
[quote][p][bold]whitety[/bold] wrote: Not the way to sell season tickets no team as yet worth watching if i wanted to watch school kids i can do that for nothing, same standard realy look at southampton sold 92 million worth of players no one buying season tickets down there same result here but on a smaller scale. get rid of your best players get rid of your supporters at the same time.[/p][/quote]Not sure where you get your info from about Southampton but im a Town fan living down here and the season tickets were purchased before the players were sold? In fact the season ticket sales were put on hold due to large sales and having to catch up. Yes Saints fans are complaining now due to the players now sold but the season tickets were already bought so you are wrong, My girlfriend is a Saints season ticket holder and all of her friends have renewed. I wish people would post accurate stuff on here instead of misinformed comments Anyway I will be travelling up for the first home game COYR need some signings this week though. Match day prices won't do much to attract the casual fans im afraid this season and we need to get in these players we are targeting very soon. TelSTFC
  • Score: 8

9:27am Sat 2 Aug 14

South Stand says...

The Jockster wrote:
castle9 wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?
Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it?
I see your argument to an extent. Having said that, if you bought a season ticket at £373 it would work out at £16 per game so you wouldn't have to pay anywhere near £25 or £27 per game.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Can you clarify the bit about the OAP season ticket?[/p][/quote]Castle- up until this season anybody over 60 could buy a "concession" match day ticket or season ticket e.g. Last season instead of £25 I paid £19 - but now because Power has deemed that you are not and oap until you reach 65 I will have to pay £27 or £25 etc whatever the full price matchday ticket is. When the recent 10% offer was on I enquired the cost - don Rogers /Arkells - was £292 oap(65) or £373 (under 65) If I could have paid the lower price I'd be a season ticket holder now. There are probably many more "older but not official oaps" who to date have decided Powers price hike by age stealth isn't for them as well. Hope that explains it?[/p][/quote]I see your argument to an extent. Having said that, if you bought a season ticket at £373 it would work out at £16 per game so you wouldn't have to pay anywhere near £25 or £27 per game. South Stand
  • Score: 9

9:30am Sat 2 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

It's all very well for people to complain about fans not being supportive of their club but it has to be a two way street. The club must take the initiative and encourage hesitant fans, lapsed fans and potential fans to come through the turnstiles. You don't do that by talking up the nursery service you provide to other clubs and saying you want those clubs to buy our players. You do it by showing intent to win games and win promotion. If that is an unrealistic short-term aim, fair enough - but for goodness sake let's have some evidence that we are building the foundations to do it at some point in the future. Everything is just wishywashy at the moment, with the focus apparently more on being an academy than being a football club with intent to progress.
It's all very well for people to complain about fans not being supportive of their club but it has to be a two way street. The club must take the initiative and encourage hesitant fans, lapsed fans and potential fans to come through the turnstiles. You don't do that by talking up the nursery service you provide to other clubs and saying you want those clubs to buy our players. You do it by showing intent to win games and win promotion. If that is an unrealistic short-term aim, fair enough - but for goodness sake let's have some evidence that we are building the foundations to do it at some point in the future. Everything is just wishywashy at the moment, with the focus apparently more on being an academy than being a football club with intent to progress. Oi Den!
  • Score: 10

9:33am Sat 2 Aug 14

uruguay whitey the red says...

been blindly following home and away since early 70`s,ive become cheesed off my club is now just a `stepping stone`for basically youth footballers for the benefit of other clubs.wheres our fans dreams of competing in the championship/premier
?ask burnley,swansea,card
iff,hull.im now just having sustainability and cutbacks quotes thrown at me all the time from lee powers puppet mark cooper!.we are a large club fanbase wise in this 3rd division,we charge at the top end admission aswell.andrew black walked away after spending millions on debt and (thanks to Jeremy wray and phil spencer) huge wages,this doesn't impact on the current hierarchy.we always seem to attract shysters with no money and ulterior motives.im disturbed that my club is now just a mediocre one with no ambition,we polish a gem and the gem leaves for nothing.for a pre-season this has been absolutely non eventful and most fans have no real excitement with regard to additions,ive never felt that before in almost 40 years.we saw last season away from home that we got bullied and we haven't addressed that at all!,to have no senior pro`s so to speak is walking on thin ice.when cooper says they cost money he needs to know that an exciting addition puts bums on seats.going back to sustainability then if Swindon town fc actually released the financial accounts every year into the public/shareholders domain then the fans could see how and when the money went awol or was spent wisely.i hope we do well this season,i hope we play some decent attack minded football,i hope when things are glaringly wrong that personnel issues are addressed and we get players in/out.COYR.
been blindly following home and away since early 70`s,ive become cheesed off my club is now just a `stepping stone`for basically youth footballers for the benefit of other clubs.wheres our fans dreams of competing in the championship/premier ?ask burnley,swansea,card iff,hull.im now just having sustainability and cutbacks quotes thrown at me all the time from lee powers puppet mark cooper!.we are a large club fanbase wise in this 3rd division,we charge at the top end admission aswell.andrew black walked away after spending millions on debt and (thanks to Jeremy wray and phil spencer) huge wages,this doesn't impact on the current hierarchy.we always seem to attract shysters with no money and ulterior motives.im disturbed that my club is now just a mediocre one with no ambition,we polish a gem and the gem leaves for nothing.for a pre-season this has been absolutely non eventful and most fans have no real excitement with regard to additions,ive never felt that before in almost 40 years.we saw last season away from home that we got bullied and we haven't addressed that at all!,to have no senior pro`s so to speak is walking on thin ice.when cooper says they cost money he needs to know that an exciting addition puts bums on seats.going back to sustainability then if Swindon town fc actually released the financial accounts every year into the public/shareholders domain then the fans could see how and when the money went awol or was spent wisely.i hope we do well this season,i hope we play some decent attack minded football,i hope when things are glaringly wrong that personnel issues are addressed and we get players in/out.COYR. uruguay whitey the red
  • Score: 15

9:55am Sat 2 Aug 14

swindonjason says...

I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi
I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi swindonjason
  • Score: 2

10:02am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

South Stand I take your point but I'd have to shell out £373 up front or more now the offer isn't on. At £292/23 I'd only be paying £12.70 a game :)
Uruguay - some excellent points there.
Den - totally agree - if we are just existing to operate as an academy to nurture future PL stars for the foreseeable future then we have completely lost our identity. We surely want to be Swindon Town FC in our own right and not STFC aka the Spurs Liverpool etc youth academy!
South Stand I take your point but I'd have to shell out £373 up front or more now the offer isn't on. At £292/23 I'd only be paying £12.70 a game :) Uruguay - some excellent points there. Den - totally agree - if we are just existing to operate as an academy to nurture future PL stars for the foreseeable future then we have completely lost our identity. We surely want to be Swindon Town FC in our own right and not STFC aka the Spurs Liverpool etc youth academy! The Jockster
  • Score: 3

10:03am Sat 2 Aug 14

Robinonfire says...

I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper
I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper Robinonfire
  • Score: -8

10:11am Sat 2 Aug 14

EastleazeRed says...

Regardless of the price of a matchday ticket its all down to whether you think its value for money ? A matchday ticket brought over the net with a booking fee can cost nearly £30 on the day for an hour and half of football .
Regardless of the price of a matchday ticket its all down to whether you think its value for money ? A matchday ticket brought over the net with a booking fee can cost nearly £30 on the day for an hour and half of football . EastleazeRed
  • Score: 0

10:15am Sat 2 Aug 14

Cleuso says...

The Nomis wrote:
You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks
And how do you think the club is going to get better without your contribution ? Probably won't make too much difference to the club anyway.

If you never saw a game last season anyway clearly you never saw the tippy tappy football you allege took place, so that's a bit of an own goal on your part. Supporter, really ????

For your information, some of the football played, particularly earlier in the season was the best seen at the County Ground for years..OK it may not have lasted quite all the season, but no reason to stay away from those early games.

I say again supporter ? Really ? Matey ?
[quote][p][bold]The Nomis[/bold] wrote: You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks[/p][/quote]And how do you think the club is going to get better without your contribution ? Probably won't make too much difference to the club anyway. If you never saw a game last season anyway clearly you never saw the tippy tappy football you allege took place, so that's a bit of an own goal on your part. Supporter, really ???? For your information, some of the football played, particularly earlier in the season was the best seen at the County Ground for years..OK it may not have lasted quite all the season, but no reason to stay away from those early games. I say again supporter ? Really ? Matey ? Cleuso
  • Score: 14

10:17am Sat 2 Aug 14

Cleuso says...

STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds
[quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds Cleuso
  • Score: 1

10:23am Sat 2 Aug 14

Cleuso says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Thought I read in the small print somewhere that 60-65 with existing season tickets still could renew at the concession rate and that new or existing season ticket holders can only get the concession in future when reaching 65.. Anyone else firm up those facts ?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Thought I read in the small print somewhere that 60-65 with existing season tickets still could renew at the concession rate and that new or existing season ticket holders can only get the concession in future when reaching 65.. Anyone else firm up those facts ? Cleuso
  • Score: 0

10:29am Sat 2 Aug 14

Cleuso says...

Robinonfire wrote:
I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper
Even if we are top of the league with 10 wins out of 10 you'll still be calling for him to go if we lose the 11th game... actually probably after the 10th because we only won that by just 1 goal.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper[/p][/quote]Even if we are top of the league with 10 wins out of 10 you'll still be calling for him to go if we lose the 11th game... actually probably after the 10th because we only won that by just 1 goal. Cleuso
  • Score: 2

10:40am Sat 2 Aug 14

South Stand says...

swindonjason wrote:
I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi
Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge.
This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
[quote][p][bold]swindonjason[/bold] wrote: I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi[/p][/quote]Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge. This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong. South Stand
  • Score: 0

10:49am Sat 2 Aug 14

South Stand says...

Cleuso wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't.
My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money.
As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.
Thought I read in the small print somewhere that 60-65 with existing season tickets still could renew at the concession rate and that new or existing season ticket holders can only get the concession in future when reaching 65.. Anyone else firm up those facts ?
Yes I've just visited the website. The 65 years old rule only applies to new season ticket holders. If you were an existing ST holder aged 64.5 years of age, you would be entitled to the concession rate. Are you an existing ST holder?
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oo-r-ya & Syd it's all a matter of perspective surely? What some consider to be value for money others don't. My stance is that at 64.5 yrs of age Power has shot himself in the foot by hiking the oap concession S/T price from 60-65. Had he left well alone and only put the price up pro rata he'd have had my money. As Cooper says fans are holding back until they know what sort of a side we've got, and who can blame them. Like Syd, although I live locally I'll probably end up doing more away games as it's a day out with the lads and I'll cherry pick the home ones, all down to both individual tastes and finances really and I don't see why any fan should be labelled a glory hunter just because they might be picking and choosing games or are wary of going because pretty passing tippy tappy with no end result in the final third doesn't appeal.[/p][/quote]Thought I read in the small print somewhere that 60-65 with existing season tickets still could renew at the concession rate and that new or existing season ticket holders can only get the concession in future when reaching 65.. Anyone else firm up those facts ?[/p][/quote]Yes I've just visited the website. The 65 years old rule only applies to new season ticket holders. If you were an existing ST holder aged 64.5 years of age, you would be entitled to the concession rate. Are you an existing ST holder? South Stand
  • Score: 3

10:53am Sat 2 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Or maybe we are aiming for even better?
I still say the court case slowed us down in the transfer market.
To be honest i would much rather have loans then sign players to along term contracts on big wages and then not played!
[quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Or maybe we are aiming for even better? I still say the court case slowed us down in the transfer market. To be honest i would much rather have loans then sign players to along term contracts on big wages and then not played! swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

10:56am Sat 2 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

The Nomis wrote:
You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks
The football we played in the late part of the season was superb and if we continue to do that i will be happy enough.
The game against Southampton seemed to indicate that we will be trying to play good football this season.
[quote][p][bold]The Nomis[/bold] wrote: You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks[/p][/quote]The football we played in the late part of the season was superb and if we continue to do that i will be happy enough. The game against Southampton seemed to indicate that we will be trying to play good football this season. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 1

10:58am Sat 2 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

South Stand no I'm not and I was coming from the angle of new s/t rather than existing- still think Power is shouting himself in the foot though - I can't be the only one and sales are down aren't they!
South Stand no I'm not and I was coming from the angle of new s/t rather than existing- still think Power is shouting himself in the foot though - I can't be the only one and sales are down aren't they! The Jockster
  • Score: -1

10:59am Sat 2 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

Robinonfire wrote:
I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper
Proved himself last season by finishing 8th.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper[/p][/quote]Proved himself last season by finishing 8th. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 2

11:29am Sat 2 Aug 14

LionelHutz says...

My season ticket this year cost less than last season's and I pay £33.75 a month on interest-free instalments. Excellent value for money, in my opinion.

This is Swindon Town... we know we're not going to be making massive signings. All I ask is that whoever pulls on the shirt gives their all and looks like they care, and last season, despite all the criticism, that was the case.
My season ticket this year cost less than last season's and I pay £33.75 a month on interest-free instalments. Excellent value for money, in my opinion. This is Swindon Town... we know we're not going to be making massive signings. All I ask is that whoever pulls on the shirt gives their all and looks like they care, and last season, despite all the criticism, that was the case. LionelHutz
  • Score: 13

11:36am Sat 2 Aug 14

Davidsyrett says...

The ST is good value for money, especially if bought early. Have to admit though that the match day prices are high, even if it is cheaper for the TE, it's not a great view for the casual fan.

I still think the club are missing a trick not opening SB, Maybe £13 for adults, £10 concessions. Family of 4 ticket £25. Get the fans & families interested at a cheaper price and then they may well start turning out regularly.
The ST is good value for money, especially if bought early. Have to admit though that the match day prices are high, even if it is cheaper for the TE, it's not a great view for the casual fan. I still think the club are missing a trick not opening SB, Maybe £13 for adults, £10 concessions. Family of 4 ticket £25. Get the fans & families interested at a cheaper price and then they may well start turning out regularly. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 11

11:49am Sat 2 Aug 14

pmc1947 says...

I think Mr Cooper is living in cuckoo land, as a supporter since 1959 and a current season ticket holder. I do not share the same optimism. Players were required before friendlies to build confidence an more than 3 of them to allow for injuries and the inevitable suspensions which will follow.
I think Mr Cooper is living in cuckoo land, as a supporter since 1959 and a current season ticket holder. I do not share the same optimism. Players were required before friendlies to build confidence an more than 3 of them to allow for injuries and the inevitable suspensions which will follow. pmc1947
  • Score: 4

12:08pm Sat 2 Aug 14

MidlandRobin says...

To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management.

Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days'

It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc?

Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?!

A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard.

And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed.

You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto.

Rant over.
To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management. Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days' It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc? Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?! A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard. And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed. You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto. Rant over. MidlandRobin
  • Score: 8

12:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

MidlandRobin says...

STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Lawrence was part of my list in June, and Henderson's a quality player for this level, would have loved to see those two at Swindon. Liam's wasted in leagues 2!
[quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Lawrence was part of my list in June, and Henderson's a quality player for this level, would have loved to see those two at Swindon. Liam's wasted in leagues 2! MidlandRobin
  • Score: 6

12:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

dazzastfc says...

castle9 wrote:
oo-r-ya? wrote:
North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..
The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.
Excellent post.
Just looked at the official site for match day prices..
Whats the gold silver and bronze prices all about ??..
ITS THE UCKING TOWNEND..
Cant afford a season ticket so ME like others just go when I can..
BUT I DO GO even though I dont like are manager ans the style of football we play....I like fast attacking football...ANYONE can pass a ball ITS ROUND AND IT ROLLS
[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Cooper believes the fans will be back.. Not at £28 per game they wont for league one standard of football..[/p][/quote]The most expensive is £27. Adult prices start at £18. Or you could show your support and buy a season ticket and pay even less per game. You obviously haven't been to the theatre, cinema or a Premier League game for a while. Most of us fans haven't deserted the club. We'll still be here after the glory-followers have found something else to entertain them.[/p][/quote]Excellent post.[/p][/quote]Just looked at the official site for match day prices.. Whats the gold silver and bronze prices all about ??.. ITS THE UCKING TOWNEND.. Cant afford a season ticket so ME like others just go when I can.. BUT I DO GO even though I dont like are manager ans the style of football we play....I like fast attacking football...ANYONE can pass a ball ITS ROUND AND IT ROLLS dazzastfc
  • Score: -11

12:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

MidlandRobin wrote:
To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management.

Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days'

It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc?

Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?!

A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard.

And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed.

You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto.

Rant over.
Reasonable concerns MR but I'm not sure you can blame Cooper for delays in transfer deals. The indications are that Power does all the negotiating. And maybe the players' clubs are undecided as to whether they want to let them go?
[quote][p][bold]MidlandRobin[/bold] wrote: To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management. Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days' It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc? Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?! A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard. And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed. You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto. Rant over.[/p][/quote]Reasonable concerns MR but I'm not sure you can blame Cooper for delays in transfer deals. The indications are that Power does all the negotiating. And maybe the players' clubs are undecided as to whether they want to let them go? Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

1:04pm Sat 2 Aug 14

STFCLee says...

STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
^^^^ This^^^^^
[quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]^^^^ This^^^^^ STFCLee
  • Score: 1

1:17pm Sat 2 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

Just wonder if this game was arranged for a new signing or two?
We will see in a couple of hours!
Just wonder if this game was arranged for a new signing or two? We will see in a couple of hours! swwindon61uk
  • Score: -2

1:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Henderson and Lawrence would have pulled the fans back?
I very much doubt it, if we signed Messi and Ronaldo some fans would still find something to moan about.
I also disagree about it having to be a recognized signing,based on that we would not have signed Kasim or Mass etc etc or taken Stephens on loan last season.
Charlie Austin and Simon Cox were hardly hall of famers when they joined us were they?
[quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Henderson and Lawrence would have pulled the fans back? I very much doubt it, if we signed Messi and Ronaldo some fans would still find something to moan about. I also disagree about it having to be a recognized signing,based on that we would not have signed Kasim or Mass etc etc or taken Stephens on loan last season. Charlie Austin and Simon Cox were hardly hall of famers when they joined us were they? swwindon61uk
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

MidlandRobin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
MidlandRobin wrote:
To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management.

Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days'

It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc?

Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?!

A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard.

And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed.

You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto.

Rant over.
Reasonable concerns MR but I'm not sure you can blame Cooper for delays in transfer deals. The indications are that Power does all the negotiating. And maybe the players' clubs are undecided as to whether they want to let them go?
Fair enough Den, but surely if that's the case, we should have widened our net. As you know, I'm particularly concerned that we aren't looking at experienced players at all, I feel that if we're not looking elsewhere then we may not sign anyone at all!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MidlandRobin[/bold] wrote: To be honest Cooper, we never 'left'. But the fans especially on this blog are beginning to get more and more frustrated with the lack of ambition, passion and solidarity in your management. Time and time again I'm reading 'we hope to sign Stephens' 'we should hear from him in 48 hours' (after the Southampton game?) and now, 'the next couple of days' It's all a smokescreen Cooperman, and you need to sort it out, I'm sick of reading this c**p with nothing actually happening. If the deal with Turnbull is close, why have you not signed him for the Aston Villa friendly? To familiarise himself with the squad, introduce himself to the players, learn the way we play etc etc? Smith was linked with Swindon weeks ago, if he's not included in Liverpool's pre season tour, why is he not signed yet?! A playmaker/winger is crying out to be signed as well, you're asking players like Kasim, Luongo and Byrne to step up to the plate, when they are all clearly NOT wingers, bar maybe Byrne, but he's nowhere near the calibre of Pritchard. And the striker dilemma, it's quite obvious we still need a player who can hold the ball up, I'm sure there are PLENTY of players out there that could have put in a good shift. My personal target would have been someone like Matty Tubbs, who's currently at Wimbledon (league 2) ON LOAN, from Bournemouth... Opportunity missed. You need to get your act together MC, the first game is 7 days away, and if you want a good turn out for most home games this season, you need to make some signings. Pronto. Rant over.[/p][/quote]Reasonable concerns MR but I'm not sure you can blame Cooper for delays in transfer deals. The indications are that Power does all the negotiating. And maybe the players' clubs are undecided as to whether they want to let them go?[/p][/quote]Fair enough Den, but surely if that's the case, we should have widened our net. As you know, I'm particularly concerned that we aren't looking at experienced players at all, I feel that if we're not looking elsewhere then we may not sign anyone at all! MidlandRobin
  • Score: 0

1:56pm Sat 2 Aug 14

NORTH STAND says...

Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run....

You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November....

You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine?

The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits....

No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?
Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run.... You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November.... You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine? The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits.... No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ? NORTH STAND
  • Score: -2

2:43pm Sat 2 Aug 14

KeithMorganRules says...

I don't understand how football followers lose all sense of financial nous. Somehow they expect someone rich to support their club financially and lose millions every year so that they can enjoy the football they "deserve". Andrew Black and the Fitton consortium lost MILLIONS over the years (AB is owed £6m I think?) without a lot of support from the fan base (average gates around 8,500 at best?) yet Lee Power is now supposed to shell out and buy in a new team. So he does, loses £1-2m at least, then STFC get promoted (if we are lucky) and then in the Championship the gates go up 25% but of course we now "need" a new team so 50% more money paid out on wages and transfers, with even bigger losses. And so the wheel goes on. Basic facts, STFC don't own the ground so have no real assets, the gates are only able to support the current team and no one in their right mind is going to shell out millions like AB and the Fitton people did.
I don't understand how football followers lose all sense of financial nous. Somehow they expect someone rich to support their club financially and lose millions every year so that they can enjoy the football they "deserve". Andrew Black and the Fitton consortium lost MILLIONS over the years (AB is owed £6m I think?) without a lot of support from the fan base (average gates around 8,500 at best?) yet Lee Power is now supposed to shell out and buy in a new team. So he does, loses £1-2m at least, then STFC get promoted (if we are lucky) and then in the Championship the gates go up 25% but of course we now "need" a new team so 50% more money paid out on wages and transfers, with even bigger losses. And so the wheel goes on. Basic facts, STFC don't own the ground so have no real assets, the gates are only able to support the current team and no one in their right mind is going to shell out millions like AB and the Fitton people did. KeithMorganRules
  • Score: 6

2:44pm Sat 2 Aug 14

South Stand says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run....

You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November....

You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine?

The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits....

No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?
Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree.
Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run.... You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November.... You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine? The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits.... No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?[/p][/quote]Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree. Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward? South Stand
  • Score: 2

3:01pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chish and Fips says...

KeithMorganRules wrote:
I don't understand how football followers lose all sense of financial nous. Somehow they expect someone rich to support their club financially and lose millions every year so that they can enjoy the football they "deserve". Andrew Black and the Fitton consortium lost MILLIONS over the years (AB is owed £6m I think?) without a lot of support from the fan base (average gates around 8,500 at best?) yet Lee Power is now supposed to shell out and buy in a new team. So he does, loses £1-2m at least, then STFC get promoted (if we are lucky) and then in the Championship the gates go up 25% but of course we now "need" a new team so 50% more money paid out on wages and transfers, with even bigger losses. And so the wheel goes on. Basic facts, STFC don't own the ground so have no real assets, the gates are only able to support the current team and no one in their right mind is going to shell out millions like AB and the Fitton people did.
'ave a word with North Stand seems he has got all the answers and hopefully he/she is just waiting to plough their millions in ... don't hold your breath though, somehow think it's only 'keyboard talk'.
[quote][p][bold]KeithMorganRules[/bold] wrote: I don't understand how football followers lose all sense of financial nous. Somehow they expect someone rich to support their club financially and lose millions every year so that they can enjoy the football they "deserve". Andrew Black and the Fitton consortium lost MILLIONS over the years (AB is owed £6m I think?) without a lot of support from the fan base (average gates around 8,500 at best?) yet Lee Power is now supposed to shell out and buy in a new team. So he does, loses £1-2m at least, then STFC get promoted (if we are lucky) and then in the Championship the gates go up 25% but of course we now "need" a new team so 50% more money paid out on wages and transfers, with even bigger losses. And so the wheel goes on. Basic facts, STFC don't own the ground so have no real assets, the gates are only able to support the current team and no one in their right mind is going to shell out millions like AB and the Fitton people did.[/p][/quote]'ave a word with North Stand seems he has got all the answers and hopefully he/she is just waiting to plough their millions in ... don't hold your breath though, somehow think it's only 'keyboard talk'. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harley red says...

Cleuso wrote:
The Nomis wrote:
You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks
And how do you think the club is going to get better without your contribution ? Probably won't make too much difference to the club anyway.

If you never saw a game last season anyway clearly you never saw the tippy tappy football you allege took place, so that's a bit of an own goal on your part. Supporter, really ????

For your information, some of the football played, particularly earlier in the season was the best seen at the County Ground for years..OK it may not have lasted quite all the season, but no reason to stay away from those early games.

I say again supporter ? Really ? Matey ?
Idiot all they did was play tip tap down a blind ally and back to Wes if you find that entertaining you have my sympathy , as it's slow and very boring
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Nomis[/bold] wrote: You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks[/p][/quote]And how do you think the club is going to get better without your contribution ? Probably won't make too much difference to the club anyway. If you never saw a game last season anyway clearly you never saw the tippy tappy football you allege took place, so that's a bit of an own goal on your part. Supporter, really ???? For your information, some of the football played, particularly earlier in the season was the best seen at the County Ground for years..OK it may not have lasted quite all the season, but no reason to stay away from those early games. I say again supporter ? Really ? Matey ?[/p][/quote]Idiot all they did was play tip tap down a blind ally and back to Wes if you find that entertaining you have my sympathy , as it's slow and very boring harley red
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harley red says...

Cleuso wrote:
STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds
Who cares , by getting these players they have abetted chance of going up we have no chance we are swindon and we are skint power should go andtake the puppet with him, he's no better than jed he was skintight as well
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds[/p][/quote]Who cares , by getting these players they have abetted chance of going up we have no chance we are swindon and we are skint power should go andtake the puppet with him, he's no better than jed he was skintight as well harley red
  • Score: -2

3:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

NORTH STAND says...

South Stand wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote:
Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run....

You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November....

You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine?

The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits....

No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?
Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree.
Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?
Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un.....

It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules....

1. ignore everything anybody says
2. watch everything everyone does

....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters....

...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish....
[quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run.... You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November.... You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine? The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits.... No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?[/p][/quote]Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree. Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?[/p][/quote]Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un..... It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules.... 1. ignore everything anybody says 2. watch everything everyone does ....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters.... ...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish.... NORTH STAND
  • Score: 4

3:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harley red says...

Cleuso wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper
Even if we are top of the league with 10 wins out of 10 you'll still be calling for him to go if we lose the 11th game... actually probably after the 10th because we only won that by just 1 goal.
Get rid now don't wait put someone out of the stands a go . Would not be any worse would it .
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper[/p][/quote]Even if we are top of the league with 10 wins out of 10 you'll still be calling for him to go if we lose the 11th game... actually probably after the 10th because we only won that by just 1 goal.[/p][/quote]Get rid now don't wait put someone out of the stands a go . Would not be any worse would it . harley red
  • Score: -4

3:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harley red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
The Nomis wrote:
You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks
The football we played in the late part of the season was superb and if we continue to do that i will be happy enough.
The game against Southampton seemed to indicate that we will be trying to play good football this season.
The last time we played well was when PDC was in charge we had excitement ,commitment , and entertainment . Now we have none of these . So were is value for money ?
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Nomis[/bold] wrote: You reckon Cooper??. Last season was the first season that I never attended a game since I first started going in the early 80s!!. My reasons among many was the continual hiking up of match day prices. Think it is well expensive for mediocre 3rd tier football. My other main reason was my concerns of the direction the club is going and major lack of ambition. The same again applies for this season. This id the first season ever that I have not felt excited or optimistic. And it just isn't me. I know loads of supporters, old die hards that feel the same and have stopped going because of this and have had enough. Like matey above said....£28 to watch crap tippy tappy football??.....No thanks[/p][/quote]The football we played in the late part of the season was superb and if we continue to do that i will be happy enough. The game against Southampton seemed to indicate that we will be trying to play good football this season.[/p][/quote]The last time we played well was when PDC was in charge we had excitement ,commitment , and entertainment . Now we have none of these . So were is value for money ? harley red
  • Score: -2

3:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

South Stand says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
South Stand wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote:
Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run....

You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November....

You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine?

The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits....

No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?
Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree.
Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?
Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un.....

It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules....

1. ignore everything anybody says
2. watch everything everyone does

....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters....

...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish....
Almost unbelievable but you've come up with the answer.........'the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in'.
Now why didn't I think of that? Can you start the ball rolling please because I have no idea how to achieve that. Thanks.
Your qualifications and work record mean nothing because as you said yourself, you ignore everything anybody says.
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run.... You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November.... You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine? The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits.... No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?[/p][/quote]Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree. Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?[/p][/quote]Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un..... It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules.... 1. ignore everything anybody says 2. watch everything everyone does ....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters.... ...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish....[/p][/quote]Almost unbelievable but you've come up with the answer.........'the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in'. Now why didn't I think of that? Can you start the ball rolling please because I have no idea how to achieve that. Thanks. Your qualifications and work record mean nothing because as you said yourself, you ignore everything anybody says. South Stand
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Sat 2 Aug 14

harley red says...

swwindon61uk wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper
Proved himself last season by finishing 8th.
What did we win last season ??? Oh I Remember nothing !!!
[quote][p][bold]swwindon61uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: I give Cooper 10 games to prove himself...or taxi for Cooper[/p][/quote]Proved himself last season by finishing 8th.[/p][/quote]What did we win last season ??? Oh I Remember nothing !!! harley red
  • Score: -5

3:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Cleuso says...

harley red wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
STFC wins wrote:
Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late!
Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds
Who cares , by getting these players they have abetted chance of going up we have no chance we are swindon and we are skint power should go andtake the puppet with him, he's no better than jed he was skintight as well
You gonna pay for them then...if not shut up.
[quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STFC wins[/bold] wrote: Another perfect signing for us goes past with Darius Henderson going to leyton orient, would have been the perfect player for us, strong, holds up play really well , good on the air , horrible to mark , would bring Williams game into play , would blend youth with experience .... But no he goes to a rival because we want another cheap unproven kid no doubt ! Liam Lawrence would have been another one I would have taken , great player and would have given us that much needed width ! Those two signings would have pulled the fans back , and added real strength to our squad. something needs to happen mr power, we are behind you but please start making some recognised signings before it's to late![/p][/quote]Orient have got a sugar daddy this season, probably paying over he odds[/p][/quote]Who cares , by getting these players they have abetted chance of going up we have no chance we are swindon and we are skint power should go andtake the puppet with him, he's no better than jed he was skintight as well[/p][/quote]You gonna pay for them then...if not shut up. Cleuso
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Chish and Fips says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
South Stand wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote:
Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run....

You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November....

You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine?

The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits....

No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?
Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree.
Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?
Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un.....

It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules....

1. ignore everything anybody says
2. watch everything everyone does

....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters....

...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish....
..and with all your qualifications can you expand the .... ' and for those with money to come in.... ' because I think through all the long winded waffle, you highlighted what you thought was the problem ... now the difficult bit .. how do you solve that issue.
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: Oh dear.... Steal a football club, remove all investment, cut any cost you can, remove all thoughts of playing success, remove all hope, take the short term money and run, run, run.... You've still got the simpletons, but others are starting to see what's going on and the cash cow is dying on it's feet.... 5,000 crowds at best by November.... You don't buy a west end theatre ticket expecting to watch am dram, you don't shop in waitrose and eat tesco value and you don't pay 5 star hotel prices and sleep in a travel lodge.... so why would you pay £400 a year to watch supermarine? The numbers don't add up any more, and you don't need a maths degree to realise it - you can take the p155 in the short term but even football fans have their limits.... No more PDC, no more Jed, no more court cases, no more 1950 debts.... what's the pr guru going to come up next to explain a squad of seven real footballers (and one of them on hire purchase) ?[/p][/quote]Hmm....yes I think that's fairly obvious that you don't have a maths degree. Thanks for all the suggestions you keep posting. Please tell us, what is your plan for taking the club forward?[/p][/quote]Purely for context yes I do..... and a proper one, from a proper university and from the days when studying and understanding was a pre-requisite... oh and added to that post graduate financial qualifications and thirty eight years of senior level commercial experience.... None of this has the slightest relevance to a lifelong love for this football club which is simply one of my leisure 'escapes', but it does provide an annoying capacity to smell a wrong 'un..... It's important to me professionally to see through what is colloquially referred to as **** - luckily that's quite easy to achieve using just two simple rules.... 1. ignore everything anybody says 2. watch everything everyone does ....try applying that test to your supposed footballing saviour and you might begin to understand the concerns of so many long term supporters.... ...and if you really do want an answer to your question - the way forward is for those without funds to walk away and for those with money to come in.... football is a rich mans game and no place for anyone trying to 'turn a quick buck'.... always has been and increasingly always will be.... but I suspect you will be more comfortable swallowing the white knight saving the club from imminent closure line..... as any angler will tell you, you don't even need to bait the hook to catch some fish....[/p][/quote]..and with all your qualifications can you expand the .... ' and for those with money to come in.... ' because I think through all the long winded waffle, you highlighted what you thought was the problem ... now the difficult bit .. how do you solve that issue. Chish and Fips
  • Score: -1

1:09am Sun 3 Aug 14

swindonjason says...

South Stand wrote:
swindonjason wrote:
I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi
Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge.
This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct during phase 1, but there was no published deadline in phase 2m so thought I would renew in the middle of July, onky to be told that it no longer applies
[quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonjason[/bold] wrote: I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi[/p][/quote]Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge. This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.[/p][/quote]Correct during phase 1, but there was no published deadline in phase 2m so thought I would renew in the middle of July, onky to be told that it no longer applies swindonjason
  • Score: 0

8:32am Sun 3 Aug 14

South Stand says...

swindonjason wrote:
South Stand wrote:
swindonjason wrote:
I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi
Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge.
This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct during phase 1, but there was no published deadline in phase 2m so thought I would renew in the middle of July, onky to be told that it no longer applies
Yeah that's right. All it says is, from April you can pay in nine instalments with a £28 admin fee but no deadline specified. Like you I would have assumed there was no deadline. Not the greatest piece of marketing and I'm sure it's put off others too. I'm lucky enough to pay for mine outright but understand the need for instalments purchasing, as I have used this before in the past.
Maybe if someone from the club reads these message boards, they will bear this in mind in the future.
In the meantime just do what I do. Enjoy the games and sod the expense.
[quote][p][bold]swindonjason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swindonjason[/bold] wrote: I have just bought my season ticket, but wanted to do it with the installment plan being a man with a young family. I was told that this is no longer available but its not nentioned in the small print. I emailed Power abd Sangita and didnt even get a reply. I know I should have done ut earlier but used my money through the close season to treat the children. But having said that I would have done if the club imposed a deadline. I have only bought the season ticket as I know I will go to all the games and would still work out cheaper, but my argunent stands abiut the sudden unannounced withdraw of the installnent plan and no doubt it has detered others toi[/p][/quote]Sorry Jason but I read about this in March. I think(from memory), that the 'free', instalment plan was for early purchase of ST's. Thereafter the instalment plan would incur a £35 charge. This is from memory, so maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.[/p][/quote]Correct during phase 1, but there was no published deadline in phase 2m so thought I would renew in the middle of July, onky to be told that it no longer applies[/p][/quote]Yeah that's right. All it says is, from April you can pay in nine instalments with a £28 admin fee but no deadline specified. Like you I would have assumed there was no deadline. Not the greatest piece of marketing and I'm sure it's put off others too. I'm lucky enough to pay for mine outright but understand the need for instalments purchasing, as I have used this before in the past. Maybe if someone from the club reads these message boards, they will bear this in mind in the future. In the meantime just do what I do. Enjoy the games and sod the expense. South Stand
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sun 3 Aug 14

TheReaper08 says...

Sadly what Town are experiencing is now modern football. Attract a very wealthy owner that doesn't mind throwing cash around or cut your cloth accordingly. You don't need a degree, a strong commercial background or 50 years supporting the club to work that out. The problem being the one you want isn't easy to achieve & is also fraught (dodgy, clueless foreign owner anyone??) with danger. If you have an owner that either isn't prepared to or cannot afford to prop up losses then the club has to be run with a proper balance sheet, this is becoming even more relevant to clubs with directives such as financial fair play rules.

Town will be a development squad for others, but then so will virtually every club in every league except the elite few. The key is to balance the development to say sell 3/keep 3 ratios, 3 that are probably too good that you get good money for that help fund, and 3 that are good enough for the league you are in and take the team forward. It is very very hard to achieve this ratio. The loan system is becoming more & more relevant as a way to improve your squad short term for reduced risk/cost, a way to assess a player with a view to signing permanently, also with reduced risk. Get used to it as this is going to happen more & more.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a moan, financially the pips are being squeezed for many of us. It is worth considering though that until the Swindon born & bred multi billionaire comes along then it is going to be like this. Go if you can, don't if you can't, above all else support your team and be grateful the conundrum of running a modern day club and satisfying thousands of demanding fans is not yours.
Sadly what Town are experiencing is now modern football. Attract a very wealthy owner that doesn't mind throwing cash around or cut your cloth accordingly. You don't need a degree, a strong commercial background or 50 years supporting the club to work that out. The problem being the one you want isn't easy to achieve & is also fraught (dodgy, clueless foreign owner anyone??) with danger. If you have an owner that either isn't prepared to or cannot afford to prop up losses then the club has to be run with a proper balance sheet, this is becoming even more relevant to clubs with directives such as financial fair play rules. Town will be a development squad for others, but then so will virtually every club in every league except the elite few. The key is to balance the development to say sell 3/keep 3 ratios, 3 that are probably too good that you get good money for that help fund, and 3 that are good enough for the league you are in and take the team forward. It is very very hard to achieve this ratio. The loan system is becoming more & more relevant as a way to improve your squad short term for reduced risk/cost, a way to assess a player with a view to signing permanently, also with reduced risk. Get used to it as this is going to happen more & more. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and a moan, financially the pips are being squeezed for many of us. It is worth considering though that until the Swindon born & bred multi billionaire comes along then it is going to be like this. Go if you can, don't if you can't, above all else support your team and be grateful the conundrum of running a modern day club and satisfying thousands of demanding fans is not yours. TheReaper08
  • Score: 2

11:22am Sun 3 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

Reaper (I'm sure you'll be hearing from Grim's lawyers), you say we have to get used to it. I don't see why it should be so sadly inevitable that we've reached a point of no return but, if we have, here is one fan who is very likely to drift away from the game in the not too distant future. I want to support a club that has it's own soul.
Reaper (I'm sure you'll be hearing from Grim's lawyers), you say we have to get used to it. I don't see why it should be so sadly inevitable that we've reached a point of no return but, if we have, here is one fan who is very likely to drift away from the game in the not too distant future. I want to support a club that has it's own soul. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

11:23am Sun 3 Aug 14

Oi Den! says...

its, not it's
its, not it's Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

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