SWINDON TOWN: Town targeting two new centre-backs

Swindon Town only have two senior centre-backs remaining at the club

Swindon Town only have two senior centre-backs remaining at the club

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SWINDON Town are looking to sign two new centre-backs, according to manager Mark Cooper.

Having lost Troy Archibald-Henville to Carlisle United today, Cooper is left with Darren Ward, Raphael Rossi Branco and youngster Curtis Da Costa to choose from at present, with the new season rapidly approaching.

Speaking to FLIC Wiltshire, the Town boss admitted that area needs attention in the transfer market most urgently.

"We are looking to bring in one, if not two new centre-backs," he said. "We want to bring them in as quick as we can but if they are loan deals, we may have to wait a week or two.

"But I would rather wait and get the right ones in, rather than rush and bring the wrong people in.

"But the recruitment drive is well underway and we want to be as quick as we can."

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3:57pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Fernham Red says...

Great to hear after all the bad news off the field - football is firmly back on the agenda.

Troy leaving was not unexpected but does reveal a lot about the level of pay structure we are looking at this year.

Stephens not being mentioned in the article is a shame but with rose tinted spectacles on, perhaps that is because we are in negotiations already. Hopefully all the has press has not taken the shine off our footballing ambitious too much - last season we could attract young talent on loan from out of fantastic academies because of our style of play.

I hope the link to Spurs is not dead now Sherwood has left, we benefitted last season and so did they.....I expect Pritchard will get a dozen or so outings this year with the first eleven at White Hart Lane. Mason and Hall returning would not be the worst thing that could happen despite some string views on this forum. Experience and familiarity goes a long way in squad building and any level of continuity would have to help our situation now. Each of these young players is still learning and there are many positives to their game that will only continue to improve.

Darren will need a good pre-season to show he's got another year in him as a player. I personally feel he would be great in the dugout alongside MC, his experience lays the bedrock for a long career in football after hanging up his boots.

Starting to get more excited about pre-season now the shackles are off!!
Great to hear after all the bad news off the field - football is firmly back on the agenda. Troy leaving was not unexpected but does reveal a lot about the level of pay structure we are looking at this year. Stephens not being mentioned in the article is a shame but with rose tinted spectacles on, perhaps that is because we are in negotiations already. Hopefully all the has press has not taken the shine off our footballing ambitious too much - last season we could attract young talent on loan from out of fantastic academies because of our style of play. I hope the link to Spurs is not dead now Sherwood has left, we benefitted last season and so did they.....I expect Pritchard will get a dozen or so outings this year with the first eleven at White Hart Lane. Mason and Hall returning would not be the worst thing that could happen despite some string views on this forum. Experience and familiarity goes a long way in squad building and any level of continuity would have to help our situation now. Each of these young players is still learning and there are many positives to their game that will only continue to improve. Darren will need a good pre-season to show he's got another year in him as a player. I personally feel he would be great in the dugout alongside MC, his experience lays the bedrock for a long career in football after hanging up his boots. Starting to get more excited about pre-season now the shackles are off!! Fernham Red
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4:06pm Wed 2 Jul 14

lifelong red says...

Definitely need 2 new centre backs - need to go into the new season with a strong resolute defence , to unable us to have a good shot at the P. O "s , unlike last season where it was this area that cost us . Could also do with a strong tackling defensive midfielder , preferably of leadership quality also a striker and a orthodox winger , don't feel to comfortable with Byrne as our only experienced L.B. , maybe this also needs to be addressed .
Definitely need 2 new centre backs - need to go into the new season with a strong resolute defence , to unable us to have a good shot at the P. O "s , unlike last season where it was this area that cost us . Could also do with a strong tackling defensive midfielder , preferably of leadership quality also a striker and a orthodox winger , don't feel to comfortable with Byrne as our only experienced L.B. , maybe this also needs to be addressed . lifelong red
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4:21pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Bart73 says...

Hope jack Stephen on way ?? Would be nice see him back again
Hope jack Stephen on way ?? Would be nice see him back again Bart73
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4:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Bart73 says...

Hope sign jack Stephen ! Would be nice see him again ! He did good well player last season
Hope sign jack Stephen ! Would be nice see him again ! He did good well player last season Bart73
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4:46pm Wed 2 Jul 14

port de soller says...

What we must realize is LP is on his own,we know the budget will be tight and maybe a player will need to be sold as was explained thie Court case really messed the club up as season tickets stopped selling(who can blame fans as thoght of Jed getting the dosh etc was on the cards)
Ok so it´s the loan market ,several playes have departed so wage bill must have come down.
Feel as fans we were spoilt by Black and his mega rich board,as for Pdc aint saying a word as would cause more problems.
Would be good if LP could attract another investor. We do get decent gates and proving we don´t overspend I just think the club may again surprise a few Teams in Div 1.
So how time goes will soon be start of new season.Good Luck to the Town
What we must realize is LP is on his own,we know the budget will be tight and maybe a player will need to be sold as was explained thie Court case really messed the club up as season tickets stopped selling(who can blame fans as thoght of Jed getting the dosh etc was on the cards) Ok so it´s the loan market ,several playes have departed so wage bill must have come down. Feel as fans we were spoilt by Black and his mega rich board,as for Pdc aint saying a word as would cause more problems. Would be good if LP could attract another investor. We do get decent gates and proving we don´t overspend I just think the club may again surprise a few Teams in Div 1. So how time goes will soon be start of new season.Good Luck to the Town port de soller
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4:54pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Fernham Red says...

Just took a look on the pfa.com transfer list for under 24 players (our target market) . Sam Hutchinson (24) out of Chelsea looks like he could do a job but otherwise hard to identify any others with similar experience (he played under Brendan Rodgers).

As for premier league U21's for loan - Lewis Baker (Chelsea) and Thomas Eisfeld look like they can score goals from midfield. If we promised Chelsea & Arsenal they'd play every game, would they come?
Just took a look on the pfa.com transfer list for under 24 players (our target market) . Sam Hutchinson (24) out of Chelsea looks like he could do a job but otherwise hard to identify any others with similar experience (he played under Brendan Rodgers). As for premier league U21's for loan - Lewis Baker (Chelsea) and Thomas Eisfeld look like they can score goals from midfield. If we promised Chelsea & Arsenal they'd play every game, would they come? Fernham Red
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5:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Fernham Red says...

As for forwards, does anyone else rate Connor Jennings? Stitched us up good and proper in the FA cup on loan to Macclesfield from the Iron. He's a free agent now and only 22.
As for forwards, does anyone else rate Connor Jennings? Stitched us up good and proper in the FA cup on loan to Macclesfield from the Iron. He's a free agent now and only 22. Fernham Red
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6:48pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Rednwhitewalrus699 says...

Dont we also have that Antonio bloke from Samsung at CB?

We need to get Stephens back as a priority and weren't we looking at Cheyenne Dunkley before as a CB too?

Lets get Westcarr on a free as a striker and a few prem loanees to complete the side.

Luckily, we only need 4 or 5 players max as the team is good enough already to challenge for the playoffs.

I hope Ward doesnt get near the side as he's past it big time. Hall has gone to Brum by the way guys.
Dont we also have that Antonio bloke from Samsung at CB? We need to get Stephens back as a priority and weren't we looking at Cheyenne Dunkley before as a CB too? Lets get Westcarr on a free as a striker and a few prem loanees to complete the side. Luckily, we only need 4 or 5 players max as the team is good enough already to challenge for the playoffs. I hope Ward doesnt get near the side as he's past it big time. Hall has gone to Brum by the way guys. Rednwhitewalrus699
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7:16pm Wed 2 Jul 14

LeGod says...

Fernham Red - Hall signed for Birmingham about 4-6 weeks ago and not worried about him anyway who to me was a liability.

Stephens would be great to get back plus one experienced centre back along side him hopefully we can do a loan deal with saints to get him back.
Fernham Red - Hall signed for Birmingham about 4-6 weeks ago and not worried about him anyway who to me was a liability. Stephens would be great to get back plus one experienced centre back along side him hopefully we can do a loan deal with saints to get him back. LeGod
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7:29pm Wed 2 Jul 14

joey butler says...

How about young Irish International John Egan, who was recently released by Sunderland and is from a family rich in sporting history? He shows enormous promise as a quality defender for the future.
How about young Irish International John Egan, who was recently released by Sunderland and is from a family rich in sporting history? He shows enormous promise as a quality defender for the future. joey butler
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9:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

Rednwhitewalrus699 wrote:
Dont we also have that Antonio bloke from Samsung at CB?

We need to get Stephens back as a priority and weren't we looking at Cheyenne Dunkley before as a CB too?

Lets get Westcarr on a free as a striker and a few prem loanees to complete the side.

Luckily, we only need 4 or 5 players max as the team is good enough already to challenge for the playoffs.

I hope Ward doesnt get near the side as he's past it big time. Hall has gone to Brum by the way guys.
Westcarr has signed for Portsmouth
[quote][p][bold]Rednwhitewalrus699[/bold] wrote: Dont we also have that Antonio bloke from Samsung at CB? We need to get Stephens back as a priority and weren't we looking at Cheyenne Dunkley before as a CB too? Lets get Westcarr on a free as a striker and a few prem loanees to complete the side. Luckily, we only need 4 or 5 players max as the team is good enough already to challenge for the playoffs. I hope Ward doesnt get near the side as he's past it big time. Hall has gone to Brum by the way guys.[/p][/quote]Westcarr has signed for Portsmouth London Red
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9:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
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Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers London Red
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9:45pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
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Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
Any of them any good?
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers[/p][/quote]Any of them any good? Oi Den!
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9:48pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

Forwards there are a few under 24 too: Michael Ngoo (Liverpool) who we were after last Jan, Milan Lalkovic (Chelsea) who was scoring at Walsall last term, Nathan Delfouneso (Villa), John Cofie (Newcastle) or Nat Jarvis (Cardiff)
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Plus a few over 24: Andy Keogh, Will Hoskins or Calvin Andrew
Forwards there are a few under 24 too: Michael Ngoo (Liverpool) who we were after last Jan, Milan Lalkovic (Chelsea) who was scoring at Walsall last term, Nathan Delfouneso (Villa), John Cofie (Newcastle) or Nat Jarvis (Cardiff) . Plus a few over 24: Andy Keogh, Will Hoskins or Calvin Andrew London Red
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9:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
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Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
Any of them any good?
Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers[/p][/quote]Any of them any good?[/p][/quote]Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level. London Red
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10:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
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Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
Any of them any good?
Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level.
Hope we don't take punts on that basis. I'd rather we sign people the manager thinks fit the bill. As we've discussed, these clubs overrecruit, often on the offchance that the players will come good. And we've had plenty of players from the top flight who've been very poor. We don't want to be playing triallists if we are going to compete seriously.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers[/p][/quote]Any of them any good?[/p][/quote]Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level.[/p][/quote]Hope we don't take punts on that basis. I'd rather we sign people the manager thinks fit the bill. As we've discussed, these clubs overrecruit, often on the offchance that the players will come good. And we've had plenty of players from the top flight who've been very poor. We don't want to be playing triallists if we are going to compete seriously. Oi Den!
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10:09pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
London Red wrote:
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
.
Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
Any of them any good?
Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level.
Hope we don't take punts on that basis. I'd rather we sign people the manager thinks fit the bill. As we've discussed, these clubs overrecruit, often on the offchance that the players will come good. And we've had plenty of players from the top flight who've been very poor. We don't want to be playing triallists if we are going to compete seriously.
Den - you don't rate anyone even proven players at our level
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Obviously Power will have more knowledge than us as he has contacts and would have watch certain players in their U18 or U21 games or when out on loan
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As for example Swan was marked up as one to watch and described as a commanding centre-back with the ability to read the game and his strengths lie in winning the ball in the air and his timing of tackles. He can also get forward and score goals with his powerful long-range shots
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He been out on loan in Norway and at Wednesday
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Obviously would be a punt - but so are all transfers and some come off!
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Stephens was a punt and he came off!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers[/p][/quote]Any of them any good?[/p][/quote]Won't know unless we sign them and see them in action. But you would hope that coming from some of the biggest clubs in the world let alone England they have had a good education to be capable of performing at L1 level.[/p][/quote]Hope we don't take punts on that basis. I'd rather we sign people the manager thinks fit the bill. As we've discussed, these clubs overrecruit, often on the offchance that the players will come good. And we've had plenty of players from the top flight who've been very poor. We don't want to be playing triallists if we are going to compete seriously.[/p][/quote]Den - you don't rate anyone even proven players at our level . Obviously Power will have more knowledge than us as he has contacts and would have watch certain players in their U18 or U21 games or when out on loan . As for example Swan was marked up as one to watch and described as a commanding centre-back with the ability to read the game and his strengths lie in winning the ball in the air and his timing of tackles. He can also get forward and score goals with his powerful long-range shots . He been out on loan in Norway and at Wednesday . Obviously would be a punt - but so are all transfers and some come off! . Stephens was a punt and he came off! London Red
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10:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

London Red says...

Sokolik has gone to Yeovil - so Johnson obviously has seen something in him from his time at Liverpool or out on loan at Southend to do a job in L1
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Like it or not most player will have come from the bigger clubs dropping down the leagues if they don't make it!
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It's not often you get a Kasim who has not made it at a L2 or Conference club and goes on to forge a career higher up the ladder
Sokolik has gone to Yeovil - so Johnson obviously has seen something in him from his time at Liverpool or out on loan at Southend to do a job in L1 . Like it or not most player will have come from the bigger clubs dropping down the leagues if they don't make it! . It's not often you get a Kasim who has not made it at a L2 or Conference club and goes on to forge a career higher up the ladder London Red
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10:34pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

I don't rate anyone? That's a strange comment LR. I'll never give an opinion on a player I haven't seen in a Town shirt. That means they start with a clean sheet for me, whether their previous form has been good, bad or indifferent. But signing someone who's played for a big club is no guarantee they'll be good. A few names come to mind straightaway: Pericard, Obika, Magera, Parrett, Hall. I know your view of a couple of those differs from mine but I think the general consensus is they were poor. I would hope the manager will sign players because of what he's seen in them. That way the door might not have to revolve too much.
I don't rate anyone? That's a strange comment LR. I'll never give an opinion on a player I haven't seen in a Town shirt. That means they start with a clean sheet for me, whether their previous form has been good, bad or indifferent. But signing someone who's played for a big club is no guarantee they'll be good. A few names come to mind straightaway: Pericard, Obika, Magera, Parrett, Hall. I know your view of a couple of those differs from mine but I think the general consensus is they were poor. I would hope the manager will sign players because of what he's seen in them. That way the door might not have to revolve too much. Oi Den!
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10:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

old town robin says...

London Red wrote:
There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton)
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Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers
If we are only looking at bringing in one CB, I'm not sure an under 24 would be the answer, although I would welcome back Stephens remember he was playing alongside Archibald, which proved to be a solid pairing. Bring in an under 24 to play along side Ward and we will be in trouble. We need to replace Ward as well as Archibald not only do we need someone experienced but also someone with leadership and possible captain credentials.

Still believe Fittons decision to sell Greer to Brighton was one of the worse pieces of business ever by STFC. Doubt if we could ever again afford someone of his calibre
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: There seems to be a fair few CB's under 24 still around: George Swan (Man City), Jakub Sokolik (Liverpool), Sam Hutchingson (Chelsea), Aaron Tumwa (Blackburn), Leander Siemman (Arsenal), Aaron Martin (Birmingham), Obasiarinse Uade (Arsenal), Jonny Fenwick (Wednesday), Matt Fry (Charlton) . Over 24 there are still some who be affordable (?): Anthony Gardner, Peter Clarke or Liam Chilvers[/p][/quote]If we are only looking at bringing in one CB, I'm not sure an under 24 would be the answer, although I would welcome back Stephens remember he was playing alongside Archibald, which proved to be a solid pairing. Bring in an under 24 to play along side Ward and we will be in trouble. We need to replace Ward as well as Archibald not only do we need someone experienced but also someone with leadership and possible captain credentials. Still believe Fittons decision to sell Greer to Brighton was one of the worse pieces of business ever by STFC. Doubt if we could ever again afford someone of his calibre old town robin
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11:09pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him.
OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him. Oi Den!
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11:10pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

Sorry, question mark at the end was a typo.
Sorry, question mark at the end was a typo. Oi Den!
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8:28am Thu 3 Jul 14

Another view says...

Oi Den! says...
OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him.

- Den, you just depressed me this morning as I was having my coffee before starting work!
I had tried to forget that awful collapse. With a fair wind and no injury worries we could have won the league that year. A few Wednesday fans had come on here when Danny Wilson took over to say, he's a decent manager, but usually bottles it when the pressure is on. After hammering Leeds home and away promotion looked soo close!
Oi Den! says... OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him. - Den, you just depressed me this morning as I was having my coffee before starting work! I had tried to forget that awful collapse. With a fair wind and no injury worries we could have won the league that year. A few Wednesday fans had come on here when Danny Wilson took over to say, he's a decent manager, but usually bottles it when the pressure is on. After hammering Leeds home and away promotion looked soo close! Another view
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8:41am Thu 3 Jul 14

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him.
Den, The biggest mystery for me is why Wilson continued to play a half fit Paynter who had already signed a pre-contract with Leeds. A conflict of interest without a doubt. Reminded me of Daglish taking Duncan Shearer out of our firing line not to improve his team but to stop us..

Regarding the centre backs, Cuthbert has done quite well at Orient and certainly can score a few goals from set pieces as could Morrison, something we sadly missed last season with not one centre back able to net a goal. Trouble was neither of them were captain material and without Greer the dressing room was lost, especially the following season when the ex-Leeds contingent were upset with Charlie. Wilson was too weak to do anything about it and the appointed captain Jonathan Douglas although a sound midfielder was useless as a captain
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: OTR, I think the Greer thing was all part of the Wilson collapse. If Wilson had seen us through to promotion, as he should have done, we'd have been a division higher than Brighton and Greer would not have found them such an attractive proposition. It will always be a mystery how we went from being the best team in the division to one that struggled to beat anyone in that easy run-in. Even after that and losing Greer, Many of us thought Cuthbert and Morrison would have been an effective partnership. Wilson obviously thought so, as Fitton said he was happy to let Greer go. But Wilson had lost it by then. Yes, Greer proved to be a massive loss? We haven't had a proper captain since him.[/p][/quote]Den, The biggest mystery for me is why Wilson continued to play a half fit Paynter who had already signed a pre-contract with Leeds. A conflict of interest without a doubt. Reminded me of Daglish taking Duncan Shearer out of our firing line not to improve his team but to stop us.. Regarding the centre backs, Cuthbert has done quite well at Orient and certainly can score a few goals from set pieces as could Morrison, something we sadly missed last season with not one centre back able to net a goal. Trouble was neither of them were captain material and without Greer the dressing room was lost, especially the following season when the ex-Leeds contingent were upset with Charlie. Wilson was too weak to do anything about it and the appointed captain Jonathan Douglas although a sound midfielder was useless as a captain old town robin
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8:54am Thu 3 Jul 14

Oi Den! says...

Agree with all that OTR.
Agree with all that OTR. Oi Den!
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11:54pm Thu 3 Jul 14

old town robin says...

joey butler wrote:
How about young Irish International John Egan, who was recently released by Sunderland and is from a family rich in sporting history? He shows enormous promise as a quality defender for the future.
Good call Joey, but he's just signed a 2 year deal with the gills.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: How about young Irish International John Egan, who was recently released by Sunderland and is from a family rich in sporting history? He shows enormous promise as a quality defender for the future.[/p][/quote]Good call Joey, but he's just signed a 2 year deal with the gills. old town robin
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