SWINDON TOWN: Cooper has Storey in his plans

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Miles Storey is understood to be interesting three Football League clubs but Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper still has the striker in his plans for next season Miles Storey is understood to be interesting three Football League clubs but Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper still has the striker in his plans for next season

SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper has said that Miles Storey currently remains in his first-team plans.

The Advertiser understands Portsmouth, Notts County and Shrewsbury Town are all interested in the possibility of taking on the striker and could make a loan move for Storey during the summer transfer window.

However, Cooper has said he has not been made aware of any interest in the frontman, who netted three goals in Swindon colours last season.

"The story that was in the paper was the first I heard of it. Miles went out on loan to Salisbury earlier in the season, got injured, came back, got fit and went to Shrewsbury," Cooper told FLIC Wiltshire.

"We needed him to go and score a few goals, he didn't, he got some game time but didn't get the goals.

"He came back in and we decided to give him a go in the team, he got a couple of goals and he looked as though he was starting to come on a little bit so that's news to me that these teams are interested.

"I've certainly not heard anything about that interest.

"I think if you look at the strikers we have got, we have Andy Williams who is still under contract, he will start training with the rest of the group two or three weeks after we start back.

"He's looked really, really strong in training. We have got Michael Smith who is more of a number nine than Williams or Storey, we have got young Connor Waldon and that's it in terms of forwards.

"If we don't add any forwards then you would have to say that they are all going to have a part to play so we have to look at where we are.

"We're not in a position where we can go and get another Nile Ranger because those kind of players cost you a lot of money and we only got Nile because of the way he was.

"So you would have to look and say that the strikers we have will have to feature and they've got to help us.

"We've got to work with them and try and make them better which we have done with Miles and Michael Smith.

"People have got to understand that we are trying to teach them a way of playing that they've not really played before so in a way we are teaching them to read and write another language.

"It's going to take them time and it won't happen over night.

"I've certainly not heard or nobody has said to me or nobody has rang me and asked me 'can we have Miles Storey on loan."

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5:11pm Thu 8 May 14

port de soller says...

Good news as the player needs the chance to go out and prove himself.Would hate for him to leave and it´s sods law he most likely would score mega goals
so good luck miles
Good news as the player needs the chance to go out and prove himself.Would hate for him to leave and it´s sods law he most likely would score mega goals so good luck miles port de soller
  • Score: 1

5:18pm Thu 8 May 14

itslove says...

Agree you should use miles.
Agree you should use miles. itslove
  • Score: 2

5:23pm Thu 8 May 14

STFC Boyo says...

Great 2 c he's staying on at Swindon Town.Great news.
Great 2 c he's staying on at Swindon Town.Great news. STFC Boyo
  • Score: 0

5:32pm Thu 8 May 14

old town robin says...

So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him.

If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them

Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up
So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him. If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up old town robin
  • Score: 2

5:48pm Thu 8 May 14

picolo.pete says...

I believe Miles will prove that he can score more goals if given the game time we saw in the recent games that he played that he is also capable of taking on the opposition one on one & beating them getting the ball to the the by-line & firing over some beautiful crosses & seemed to be the only Town player willing to do this not inclusive Pritchard of course, it seemed that the others were afraid to do this, IE Byrne, Barthram even Nathan Thompson yet we know that they are all capable of doing it. Give Storry a Run of games with Smith I think they will prove a lot of People wrong & score plenty between them, from those we have I would say they have to be 1st choice. Sorry Williams may be a good player out wide but as never scored a lot of goals for us.
I believe Miles will prove that he can score more goals if given the game time we saw in the recent games that he played that he is also capable of taking on the opposition one on one & beating them getting the ball to the the by-line & firing over some beautiful crosses & seemed to be the only Town player willing to do this not inclusive Pritchard of course, it seemed that the others were afraid to do this, IE Byrne, Barthram even Nathan Thompson yet we know that they are all capable of doing it. Give Storry a Run of games with Smith I think they will prove a lot of People wrong & score plenty between them, from those we have I would say they have to be 1st choice. Sorry Williams may be a good player out wide but as never scored a lot of goals for us. picolo.pete
  • Score: -3

6:06pm Thu 8 May 14

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him.

If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them

Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up
Totally unrealistic to expect your strikers to contribute 60 goals a season.. Wolves top scorer last season was Dicko 17 (Some for Rotherham as well) and Sako was next with 11. Having said that Town are certainly going to someone to score 15/20 goals if we are to have a chance of promotion. Smith had 8 goals from 20 appearances so we could well expect him to score so we could expect 15 or so goals from him if he plays a full season. Storey in comparison scored 3 goals in 20 appearances. Williams will be the interesting one.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him. If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up[/p][/quote]Totally unrealistic to expect your strikers to contribute 60 goals a season.. Wolves top scorer last season was Dicko 17 (Some for Rotherham as well) and Sako was next with 11. Having said that Town are certainly going to someone to score 15/20 goals if we are to have a chance of promotion. Smith had 8 goals from 20 appearances so we could well expect him to score so we could expect 15 or so goals from him if he plays a full season. Storey in comparison scored 3 goals in 20 appearances. Williams will be the interesting one. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 3

6:13pm Thu 8 May 14

old town robin says...

picolo.pete wrote:
I believe Miles will prove that he can score more goals if given the game time we saw in the recent games that he played that he is also capable of taking on the opposition one on one & beating them getting the ball to the the by-line & firing over some beautiful crosses & seemed to be the only Town player willing to do this not inclusive Pritchard of course, it seemed that the others were afraid to do this, IE Byrne, Barthram even Nathan Thompson yet we know that they are all capable of doing it. Give Storry a Run of games with Smith I think they will prove a lot of People wrong & score plenty between them, from those we have I would say they have to be 1st choice. Sorry Williams may be a good player out wide but as never scored a lot of goals for us.
In principle I would agree with you that Miles can improve with goals and assist if given more game time. Whether he should go out on another short term loan or not would really depend on where he stands in the pecking order, If he is number 3 then he should stay if he is only fifth then better for him to gain more experience elsewhere. Don't agree with you about Williams not scoring many goals for us. he only played one game this season and scored and under PdC he was top scorer, granted he missed a lot and should have scored more, but if he gets a regular game next season I would expect him to score more than Smith and Storey. Too early to say at the moment, what's best for any players, have more idea by the the time pre-season takes off and hopefully we have assembled a decent squad.
[quote][p][bold]picolo.pete[/bold] wrote: I believe Miles will prove that he can score more goals if given the game time we saw in the recent games that he played that he is also capable of taking on the opposition one on one & beating them getting the ball to the the by-line & firing over some beautiful crosses & seemed to be the only Town player willing to do this not inclusive Pritchard of course, it seemed that the others were afraid to do this, IE Byrne, Barthram even Nathan Thompson yet we know that they are all capable of doing it. Give Storry a Run of games with Smith I think they will prove a lot of People wrong & score plenty between them, from those we have I would say they have to be 1st choice. Sorry Williams may be a good player out wide but as never scored a lot of goals for us.[/p][/quote]In principle I would agree with you that Miles can improve with goals and assist if given more game time. Whether he should go out on another short term loan or not would really depend on where he stands in the pecking order, If he is number 3 then he should stay if he is only fifth then better for him to gain more experience elsewhere. Don't agree with you about Williams not scoring many goals for us. he only played one game this season and scored and under PdC he was top scorer, granted he missed a lot and should have scored more, but if he gets a regular game next season I would expect him to score more than Smith and Storey. Too early to say at the moment, what's best for any players, have more idea by the the time pre-season takes off and hopefully we have assembled a decent squad. old town robin
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Thu 8 May 14

avo says...

Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously.
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Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.
Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside. avo
  • Score: 11

6:30pm Thu 8 May 14

old town robin says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him.

If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them

Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up
Totally unrealistic to expect your strikers to contribute 60 goals a season.. Wolves top scorer last season was Dicko 17 (Some for Rotherham as well) and Sako was next with 11. Having said that Town are certainly going to someone to score 15/20 goals if we are to have a chance of promotion. Smith had 8 goals from 20 appearances so we could well expect him to score so we could expect 15 or so goals from him if he plays a full season. Storey in comparison scored 3 goals in 20 appearances. Williams will be the interesting one.
David,

Not sure 60 is unrealistic for a top team spread over 4 or 5 players all contributing, Austin and Paynter were close to that with just the two of them. Obviously the more games a player gets the higher their chance of scoring. Given Smith and William (when fit) would probably play a fair amount of games, it would not be beyond the realms of possibility they could both target to get 15 a piece over a season, if Storey was too play a part nobody would expect him to score more than 10, which would be a reasonable return. Waldon I don't think is anywhere near ready and will either be a bench warmer or sent out to get experience hopefully in a league club rather than conference.

It would not surprise me to see Ajose return which will obviously depend on his wage demands, but he will add value to the club. and could also chip in with a 15 goal haul.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: So if Cooper is to be believed and there is no reason to doubt his word, our strike force of such will be Smith, Williams, Storey and Waldron, he forgot to mention Barker so not sure what the clubs plans are for him. If this is the best we can expect, it doesn't exactly give me a wow factor that we will be competing with the best with scoring goals, The teams that will be pushing for promotion next season will have at least one proven striker if not two. From the 4 Cooper has mentioned I wouldn't expect them to net more than 25 to 30 between them and that's an honest optimistic appraisal that Smith and Williams will hit double figures. The top teams will net around 80 in a season and concede less than 40, so realistically you would want your strikers to get at least 60 between them Of course this could be a "red" herring to fool our rivals and Lee Power has two exciting new strikers already lined up[/p][/quote]Totally unrealistic to expect your strikers to contribute 60 goals a season.. Wolves top scorer last season was Dicko 17 (Some for Rotherham as well) and Sako was next with 11. Having said that Town are certainly going to someone to score 15/20 goals if we are to have a chance of promotion. Smith had 8 goals from 20 appearances so we could well expect him to score so we could expect 15 or so goals from him if he plays a full season. Storey in comparison scored 3 goals in 20 appearances. Williams will be the interesting one.[/p][/quote]David, Not sure 60 is unrealistic for a top team spread over 4 or 5 players all contributing, Austin and Paynter were close to that with just the two of them. Obviously the more games a player gets the higher their chance of scoring. Given Smith and William (when fit) would probably play a fair amount of games, it would not be beyond the realms of possibility they could both target to get 15 a piece over a season, if Storey was too play a part nobody would expect him to score more than 10, which would be a reasonable return. Waldon I don't think is anywhere near ready and will either be a bench warmer or sent out to get experience hopefully in a league club rather than conference. It would not surprise me to see Ajose return which will obviously depend on his wage demands, but he will add value to the club. and could also chip in with a 15 goal haul. old town robin
  • Score: 5

8:19pm Thu 8 May 14

The Jockster says...

avo wrote:
Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously.
.
Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.
Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme.

It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.[/p][/quote]Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme. It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil. The Jockster
  • Score: -8

10:53pm Thu 8 May 14

London Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
avo wrote:
Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously.
.
Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.
Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme.

It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.
Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season!
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Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role
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We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership!
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You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan"
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Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good
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Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc
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So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him
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So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could
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If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine
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As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.[/p][/quote]Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme. It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.[/p][/quote]Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season! . Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role . We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership! . You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan" . Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good . Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc . So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him . So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could . If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine . As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50 London Red
  • Score: 7

11:24pm Thu 8 May 14

akershaker says...

I think most would agree that Williams is a classy player but frustrated by missing so many chances. I think our less direct style of play will favour him and I'm pleased to hear coops talking about playing him rather than trying to get rid. I guess he was loaned out to pay for Nile? He has a habit of scoring lots in the last year of a contract, with a run in the side, a patient team style, a big target man to work off and some confidence he may surprise a few...
I think most would agree that Williams is a classy player but frustrated by missing so many chances. I think our less direct style of play will favour him and I'm pleased to hear coops talking about playing him rather than trying to get rid. I guess he was loaned out to pay for Nile? He has a habit of scoring lots in the last year of a contract, with a run in the side, a patient team style, a big target man to work off and some confidence he may surprise a few... akershaker
  • Score: 5

11:42pm Thu 8 May 14

mancrobin says...

London Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
avo wrote:
Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously.
.
Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.
Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme.

It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.
Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season!
.
Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role
.
We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership!
.
You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan"
.
Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good
.
Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc
.
So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him
.
So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could
.
If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine
.
As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50
Here's another stat for you LR.

Looked earlier at the pre season team photo from 12/13 hanging on my youngest daughter's wall. Less than 2 years ago and only 6 of the 30 individuals featured are still employed by the Club. Williams is one of them, along with Miles, Troy, the Thompson bros, and Fodders.

Unfortunately, all 6 could be gone pre season, let's hope not as all have something to offer and, if nothing else, a bit of continuity. For that reason alone I would appeal to Power to hold on to these players and allow me the chance to save a bit of money on constant renewal of team photos!

I know that we are in a period of flux building on young talent and using loanees where necessary but it would be nice to support a team and not a staging post.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.[/p][/quote]Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme. It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.[/p][/quote]Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season! . Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role . We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership! . You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan" . Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good . Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc . So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him . So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could . If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine . As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50[/p][/quote]Here's another stat for you LR. Looked earlier at the pre season team photo from 12/13 hanging on my youngest daughter's wall. Less than 2 years ago and only 6 of the 30 individuals featured are still employed by the Club. Williams is one of them, along with Miles, Troy, the Thompson bros, and Fodders. Unfortunately, all 6 could be gone pre season, let's hope not as all have something to offer and, if nothing else, a bit of continuity. For that reason alone I would appeal to Power to hold on to these players and allow me the chance to save a bit of money on constant renewal of team photos! I know that we are in a period of flux building on young talent and using loanees where necessary but it would be nice to support a team and not a staging post. mancrobin
  • Score: 3

6:50am Fri 9 May 14

Oi Den! says...

Well said that manc!
Well said that manc! Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

9:02am Fri 9 May 14

London Red says...

mancrobin wrote:
London Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
avo wrote: Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.
Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme. It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.
Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season! . Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role . We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership! . You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan" . Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good . Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc . So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him . So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could . If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine . As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50
Here's another stat for you LR. Looked earlier at the pre season team photo from 12/13 hanging on my youngest daughter's wall. Less than 2 years ago and only 6 of the 30 individuals featured are still employed by the Club. Williams is one of them, along with Miles, Troy, the Thompson bros, and Fodders. Unfortunately, all 6 could be gone pre season, let's hope not as all have something to offer and, if nothing else, a bit of continuity. For that reason alone I would appeal to Power to hold on to these players and allow me the chance to save a bit of money on constant renewal of team photos! I know that we are in a period of flux building on young talent and using loanees where necessary but it would be nice to support a team and not a staging post.
Total rebuilds are needed for different reasons
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10/11 - we needed to ship out the entire squad as they were a total disgrace - can't remember too many complaining about the loss of Prutton and Co then or now!
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12/13 - we needed it as we simply couldn't afford that squad anymore - I would rather support a staging post than no club!
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Now we have moved closer to where we need to be I don't think we will see a total rebuild again - Cooper has already said they are looking at 4 or 5 new signings - we can't totally rebuild with only 4 new players - Otherwise we will be in a Goals league not L1!
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The only people who claim we are losing all our players are posters on here!
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Power has said we will break even from this summer and we do NOT need to sell anyone!
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Yes I'm not naive to think that means no one will go - but what it will mean is we will only sell if a) A player demands to go ala Flint and b) we will get a decent fee fro him ala Flint
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Though Power has shown he will reionvest that - Byrne, Luongo and Smith all cost six figures!
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We now have a core of young talent who all signed new deals under Power so are at a wage he thinks is sustainable - so we should see these kids grow and for the basis of our squad for years to come
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Granted the best ones will go - as they always have done and always will - but that is only likjely to be 1 or 2 a season and we should see 1 or 2 come in to replace them in that evolution
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: Williams scored 15 times for us in a season where most people slated him continuously. . Great interview with McEveley, a real insight. Knowledge from within. Worth more than a hundred 'opinions' from outside.[/p][/quote]Avo as you probably know I've never been a fan of Williams and I may be wrong but weren't those 15 goals in all competitions? Even if they were in the league I can't see him bagging that many if he turns out regularly next season as some of his misses were criminal in the extreme. It's funny but after seeing him and Collins run riot at Stoke I thought we'd found the new Wright & Bright, but like Williams, Collins has hardly set Hibs on fire and the same goes for Williams loan at Yeovil.[/p][/quote]Williams has 13 in 53 for us in total and that includes the goal against Torquay this season! . Still as a wide forward that will be a decent return - similar to what Pritchard delivered from that role . We struck gold in 09/10 - a striker from tier 10 get 20+ in a debut season and Paynter scoring more than the rest of his career in one season - it won't happen again for a long time - you have to go back to 03/04 with Parkin and Mooney to get a 50+ partnership! . You also don't need one always - we won L2 with Connell top scorer with 11 and last season made the POs with "Willma and Joan" . Smith got 18 in 45 this season - which is pretty good . Yes he had some terrible games - Orient away and Sheff at home to name two - but his performance in general against Rotherham was pretty good in terms of hold up etc . So with a decent pre-season under his belt here he could be a 20+ striker at this level - Power wouldn't fork out what he did if he didn't think he had something about him . So we would only really need Williams to deliver 10-15 which he could . If we then get goals from elsewhere - ie The other wide forward be it Storey or another, Luongo push forward more and get into double figures, L Thompson add a couple more and how about our CBs chip in with a few (did they score one in the right net this year?) we should be fine . As said before and by others if we could get Ajose back then we would really be set as him wide right and Williams left behind Smith would easily get 40-50[/p][/quote]Here's another stat for you LR. Looked earlier at the pre season team photo from 12/13 hanging on my youngest daughter's wall. Less than 2 years ago and only 6 of the 30 individuals featured are still employed by the Club. Williams is one of them, along with Miles, Troy, the Thompson bros, and Fodders. Unfortunately, all 6 could be gone pre season, let's hope not as all have something to offer and, if nothing else, a bit of continuity. For that reason alone I would appeal to Power to hold on to these players and allow me the chance to save a bit of money on constant renewal of team photos! I know that we are in a period of flux building on young talent and using loanees where necessary but it would be nice to support a team and not a staging post.[/p][/quote]Total rebuilds are needed for different reasons . 10/11 - we needed to ship out the entire squad as they were a total disgrace - can't remember too many complaining about the loss of Prutton and Co then or now! . 12/13 - we needed it as we simply couldn't afford that squad anymore - I would rather support a staging post than no club! . Now we have moved closer to where we need to be I don't think we will see a total rebuild again - Cooper has already said they are looking at 4 or 5 new signings - we can't totally rebuild with only 4 new players - Otherwise we will be in a Goals league not L1! . The only people who claim we are losing all our players are posters on here! . Power has said we will break even from this summer and we do NOT need to sell anyone! . Yes I'm not naive to think that means no one will go - but what it will mean is we will only sell if a) A player demands to go ala Flint and b) we will get a decent fee fro him ala Flint . Though Power has shown he will reionvest that - Byrne, Luongo and Smith all cost six figures! . We now have a core of young talent who all signed new deals under Power so are at a wage he thinks is sustainable - so we should see these kids grow and for the basis of our squad for years to come . Granted the best ones will go - as they always have done and always will - but that is only likjely to be 1 or 2 a season and we should see 1 or 2 come in to replace them in that evolution London Red
  • Score: 3

9:07am Fri 9 May 14

London Red says...

akershaker wrote:
I think most would agree that Williams is a classy player but frustrated by missing so many chances. I think our less direct style of play will favour him and I'm pleased to hear coops talking about playing him rather than trying to get rid. I guess he was loaned out to pay for Nile? He has a habit of scoring lots in the last year of a contract, with a run in the side, a patient team style, a big target man to work off and some confidence he may surprise a few...
Think the pressure of not being our main striker and goal scorer might help him as well
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He is not a striker - thus he hasn't played his entire careweer there and doesn't have a great goalscoring record
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But his is a good wideman due to his pace and ball control - so being out wide might see him set up someone else rather than think he has to do it himself and miss a chance
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So if we play 4231 or 433 or 343 - he should be able to benefit from playing wide but further forward than a traditional winger in 442
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I think that will see the best of him - adjust peoples expcetations and him actually become an asset - he easily has the ability to contribute as much as N'Guessan did from that role (when DNG was interested that is)
[quote][p][bold]akershaker[/bold] wrote: I think most would agree that Williams is a classy player but frustrated by missing so many chances. I think our less direct style of play will favour him and I'm pleased to hear coops talking about playing him rather than trying to get rid. I guess he was loaned out to pay for Nile? He has a habit of scoring lots in the last year of a contract, with a run in the side, a patient team style, a big target man to work off and some confidence he may surprise a few...[/p][/quote]Think the pressure of not being our main striker and goal scorer might help him as well . He is not a striker - thus he hasn't played his entire careweer there and doesn't have a great goalscoring record . But his is a good wideman due to his pace and ball control - so being out wide might see him set up someone else rather than think he has to do it himself and miss a chance . So if we play 4231 or 433 or 343 - he should be able to benefit from playing wide but further forward than a traditional winger in 442 . I think that will see the best of him - adjust peoples expcetations and him actually become an asset - he easily has the ability to contribute as much as N'Guessan did from that role (when DNG was interested that is) London Red
  • Score: 5

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