Cooper expecting FA action after tempers boil over at Meadow Lane

Tempers boil over at Meadow Lane. Picture: Dave Evans

Tempers boil over at Meadow Lane. Picture: Dave Evans

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SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper accepted that the Football Association could come down hard on the club following a late melee at Meadow Lane on Saturday.

Around 20 players were involved in scuffles in the Swindon penalty area as the Robins’ clash with Notts County entered second-half stoppage time, after Troy Archibald-Henville appeared to push Magpies striker Jimmy Spencer to the floor.

Referee Richard Clark spent several minutes conversing with his two assistants following the incident and, after dismissing Archibald-Henville for violent conduct, dished out three yellow cards to Town players – including a second to Nathan Thompson, resulting in the Swindon captain’s sending-off – and a further two to members of the home side.

Potentially, Town, who lost the game 2-0, could now get slapped with an FA charge of failing to control their players and, when that possible outcome was mooted by the Advertiser to Cooper post-match, he said: “Maybe. I think I’d counter that with failing to control the referee as well.

“When both benches are stood laughing and joking about the performance of the officials, you don’t see that for a long time.”

Cooper branded the scenes and the reaction of the officials as a “disgrace to football”.

He said: “It’s a total shambles. I don’t think words can describe that, at the end, what I’ve just seen.

“Watching football for 30-odd years, I’ve never seen anything like that.

“Before I comment I’d like to see it again. I just think all of it could have been stopped before it happened.

“I thought he was playing bingo at one point, trying to get a full house with all of our players being booked. I’m sure the assessor will have plenty to say on that.

“Nathan’s gone in and tried to get in between his brother and a couple of players, not raised his hands, just got in between them. I think the referee was just playing pot luck.

“I think the linesman was saying ‘book them two’. I think they were the nearest ones to it.”

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7:27am Mon 28 Apr 14

Since 1950 says...

In my view some, or most, of the officials in the league have been very poor this season. There have been some shockers throughout the leagues including the Prem. That having been said our disciplinary record this season has been fairly shocking as well. One of the low points of the season at Nottingham, even if TAH must have been wound up to react like that.
In my view some, or most, of the officials in the league have been very poor this season. There have been some shockers throughout the leagues including the Prem. That having been said our disciplinary record this season has been fairly shocking as well. One of the low points of the season at Nottingham, even if TAH must have been wound up to react like that. Since 1950
  • Score: 13

7:33am Mon 28 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Since 1950 wrote:
In my view some, or most, of the officials in the league have been very poor this season. There have been some shockers throughout the leagues including the Prem. That having been said our disciplinary record this season has been fairly shocking as well. One of the low points of the season at Nottingham, even if TAH must have been wound up to react like that.
I agree. Many good games have been spoilt by poor refereeing.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In my view some, or most, of the officials in the league have been very poor this season. There have been some shockers throughout the leagues including the Prem. That having been said our disciplinary record this season has been fairly shocking as well. One of the low points of the season at Nottingham, even if TAH must have been wound up to react like that.[/p][/quote]I agree. Many good games have been spoilt by poor refereeing. umpcah
  • Score: 12

7:49am Mon 28 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Cooper is right there the whole scenario was like hand bags at 40 paces and a chimps tea party and in my 50 odd years of watching Town I've not seen anything like it either.
There is no doubt the level of officiating at the game was poor, but I don't buy into this perennial biased theory that refs "always have it in for us". Evidently on Saturday the Magpies fans thought the same because they were voicing their displeasure at some decisions in the same way as the Town fans were with the universal chants of "we always get...,& you don't know what...etc"
The worrying thing is that our disciplinary record seems to be getting worse instead of better and if Terry Cooper's remarks are correct re us having the smallest budget in L1 next year, which surely means a smaller squad next year then we're in trouble if we get the same level of cards as this year. Nobody wants the likes of Nathan T to change their playing style but the players must try to curb making so many reckless challenges and also zip their lips too.
Cooper is right there the whole scenario was like hand bags at 40 paces and a chimps tea party and in my 50 odd years of watching Town I've not seen anything like it either. There is no doubt the level of officiating at the game was poor, but I don't buy into this perennial biased theory that refs "always have it in for us". Evidently on Saturday the Magpies fans thought the same because they were voicing their displeasure at some decisions in the same way as the Town fans were with the universal chants of "we always get...,& you don't know what...etc" The worrying thing is that our disciplinary record seems to be getting worse instead of better and if Terry Cooper's remarks are correct re us having the smallest budget in L1 next year, which surely means a smaller squad next year then we're in trouble if we get the same level of cards as this year. Nobody wants the likes of Nathan T to change their playing style but the players must try to curb making so many reckless challenges and also zip their lips too. The Jockster
  • Score: 4

9:12am Mon 28 Apr 14

Wildwestener says...

The Jockster wrote:
Cooper is right there the whole scenario was like hand bags at 40 paces and a chimps tea party and in my 50 odd years of watching Town I've not seen anything like it either.
There is no doubt the level of officiating at the game was poor, but I don't buy into this perennial biased theory that refs "always have it in for us". Evidently on Saturday the Magpies fans thought the same because they were voicing their displeasure at some decisions in the same way as the Town fans were with the universal chants of "we always get...,& you don't know what...etc"
The worrying thing is that our disciplinary record seems to be getting worse instead of better and if Terry Cooper's remarks are correct re us having the smallest budget in L1 next year, which surely means a smaller squad next year then we're in trouble if we get the same level of cards as this year. Nobody wants the likes of Nathan T to change their playing style but the players must try to curb making so many reckless challenges and also zip their lips too.
Yep, it's called discipline. We need it with a budget like ours more than ever now.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Cooper is right there the whole scenario was like hand bags at 40 paces and a chimps tea party and in my 50 odd years of watching Town I've not seen anything like it either. There is no doubt the level of officiating at the game was poor, but I don't buy into this perennial biased theory that refs "always have it in for us". Evidently on Saturday the Magpies fans thought the same because they were voicing their displeasure at some decisions in the same way as the Town fans were with the universal chants of "we always get...,& you don't know what...etc" The worrying thing is that our disciplinary record seems to be getting worse instead of better and if Terry Cooper's remarks are correct re us having the smallest budget in L1 next year, which surely means a smaller squad next year then we're in trouble if we get the same level of cards as this year. Nobody wants the likes of Nathan T to change their playing style but the players must try to curb making so many reckless challenges and also zip their lips too.[/p][/quote]Yep, it's called discipline. We need it with a budget like ours more than ever now. Wildwestener
  • Score: 4

9:34am Mon 28 Apr 14

hertz says...

Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then
Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then hertz
  • Score: 5

9:37am Mon 28 Apr 14

uruguay whitey the red says...

what with ill discipline on and off the pitch this last 2 seasons I`d like to know if these role models have been hit hard with club fines,might be able to fund a new £million striker with the wages banked!
what with ill discipline on and off the pitch this last 2 seasons I`d like to know if these role models have been hit hard with club fines,might be able to fund a new £million striker with the wages banked! uruguay whitey the red
  • Score: 4

9:39am Mon 28 Apr 14

Cleuso says...

Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.
Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems. Cleuso
  • Score: 3

10:06am Mon 28 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Cleuso wrote:
Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.
Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it.
I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.[/p][/quote]Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it. I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there. The Jockster
  • Score: -12

10:10am Mon 28 Apr 14

Swindon1984 says...

Have seen some very poor refs this season but Cooper making excuses really doesn't help. Our disciplinary record is VERY poor, and needs sorting out. Have said before some of our team need to man up - we seem to get pushed around by more physical sides, but instead of responding with strong tackles we respond with petulance and end up getting bookings for chucking our toys out of the pram.

Standard of officials is poor at this level but is poor for all teams, and on it's own wouldn't explain why our record is worse than most.

Needs sorting out, that's the bottom line.
Have seen some very poor refs this season but Cooper making excuses really doesn't help. Our disciplinary record is VERY poor, and needs sorting out. Have said before some of our team need to man up - we seem to get pushed around by more physical sides, but instead of responding with strong tackles we respond with petulance and end up getting bookings for chucking our toys out of the pram. Standard of officials is poor at this level but is poor for all teams, and on it's own wouldn't explain why our record is worse than most. Needs sorting out, that's the bottom line. Swindon1984
  • Score: 4

10:22am Mon 28 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso, Pritchard committed a sending off offence. He had no complaints about the red card and he apologised to his teammates for it. The play acting is a separate issue and needs to be dealt with. If the Bristol City player went to ground deliberately, that's City's problem, not ours. I've seen several examples of it from our own team this season. If we get our house in order, then we might have case to complain about others. Otherwise, it's just the pot calling the kettle black.

Our discipline has been appalling this season, in the form of backchat, crude tackles and trying to con the ref. I'm among the first to applaud Cooper for what he's achieved with his hands tied but this problem rests squarely with him. He can't absolve himself with constant moaning about refs.
Cleuso, Pritchard committed a sending off offence. He had no complaints about the red card and he apologised to his teammates for it. The play acting is a separate issue and needs to be dealt with. If the Bristol City player went to ground deliberately, that's City's problem, not ours. I've seen several examples of it from our own team this season. If we get our house in order, then we might have case to complain about others. Otherwise, it's just the pot calling the kettle black. Our discipline has been appalling this season, in the form of backchat, crude tackles and trying to con the ref. I'm among the first to applaud Cooper for what he's achieved with his hands tied but this problem rests squarely with him. He can't absolve himself with constant moaning about refs. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

10:24am Mon 28 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place.

I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of.

Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said.
Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place. I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of. Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said. the wizard
  • Score: 3

10:26am Mon 28 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

The Jockster wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.
Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it.
I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there.
Mistaken identity Jock. It was ciclo.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.[/p][/quote]Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it. I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there.[/p][/quote]Mistaken identity Jock. It was ciclo. Oi Den!
  • Score: -5

10:27am Mon 28 Apr 14

EastleazeRed says...

hertz wrote:
Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then
You forgot to mention him beating the crap out of a defenceless woman as well . What a scumbag !
[quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention him beating the crap out of a defenceless woman as well . What a scumbag ! EastleazeRed
  • Score: 0

10:35am Mon 28 Apr 14

eareds says...

The ref was a total nugget, he lost the game when one of the county players was eventually booked for diving, and then clattered Nathan Thompson five minutes later, the ref approached the player reaching for the back pocket but totally bottled it. When surronded by a few county players, No second yellow, no sending off, Spencer had spent most of the first half holding his face after every tackle, the lack of action prompted him to feign injury even more, OK Troy was in the wrong to react, and a least deserved a yellow, if he had actually punched him he would have been down for a lot longer. I really hope that county get relegated,
On the town, we could still be playing now without scoring we looked dreadful.
The ref was a total nugget, he lost the game when one of the county players was eventually booked for diving, and then clattered Nathan Thompson five minutes later, the ref approached the player reaching for the back pocket but totally bottled it. When surronded by a few county players, No second yellow, no sending off, Spencer had spent most of the first half holding his face after every tackle, the lack of action prompted him to feign injury even more, OK Troy was in the wrong to react, and a least deserved a yellow, if he had actually punched him he would have been down for a lot longer. I really hope that county get relegated, On the town, we could still be playing now without scoring we looked dreadful. eareds
  • Score: 7

10:39am Mon 28 Apr 14

grove red says...

EastleazeRed wrote:
hertz wrote:
Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then
You forgot to mention him beating the crap out of a defenceless woman as well . What a scumbag !
It looked like a very young little girl he was slapping about. And why didnt the other person standing on the otherside of the film stop him?? Time to get rid of this scumbag from our club.
[quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Talking of discipline , I heard on th local TV news lastnight that Nile Ranger is wanted for questioning by the police after CCTV footage showed him kicking down a 3 inch thick door . That is s good news means his ham string must be better then[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention him beating the crap out of a defenceless woman as well . What a scumbag ![/p][/quote]It looked like a very young little girl he was slapping about. And why didnt the other person standing on the otherside of the film stop him?? Time to get rid of this scumbag from our club. grove red
  • Score: 2

10:59am Mon 28 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Oi Den! wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.
Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it.
I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there.
Mistaken identity Jock. It was ciclo.
Ah thanks Den apologies to Cleuso for my senile error, you're spot on it was our Dorset based friend I was addressing my comments to.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: Conspiracy eh ? ...that ref has done over well over 50 games in last two seasons only 8 away teams have won games where he has officiated and unusual percentage??... look up the complaints by other sides at his officiating...who was it who pushed a player in the chest in yesterday's premier league game and got a yellow card ...Pritchard got a red for doing the same thing at City....if you watch the video their player falls over like a sack of spuds but soon springs to life after feigning injury and struts around none the worse for the altercation ...doesn't even rub his face because he got what he was after. Brilliant play acting in the first place it seems.[/p][/quote]Cleuso by the way, thanks for your character assassination of my posting style on the matchday thread which I obviously don't agree with. You and some others don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a debating site where views differ and where counter arguments are sometimes made in expressing those views. Your insinuation that my posts mostly convey a degree of arrogance did make me chuckle because I've often thought that your good self has a tendency to convey exactly the same in some of your posts, a slight air of superiority I'd call it. I confess to having a pop at one or two in the past but haven't done so for a good while and have confined my posts mainly to what I have seen on the pitch. Grim & Den despite their vast differences in posting styles were both spot on in their remarks about the number of minus votes (41) at the last count, my post attracted for just recounting what I'd seen, and I'm willing to bet my last shilling that not one of those attended the game. I'd also challenge you to find any degree of arrogance in the narrative I wrote. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoint as I am to mine, after all that's the beauty of free speech isn't it - we're all entitled to agree to disagree but if we're going to do so why not have the balls to post a counter opinion rather than just press a thumbs down button, although I suppose it's difficult to do so when as I said they weren't there.[/p][/quote]Mistaken identity Jock. It was ciclo.[/p][/quote]Ah thanks Den apologies to Cleuso for my senile error, you're spot on it was our Dorset based friend I was addressing my comments to. The Jockster
  • Score: -10

11:23am Mon 28 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Just seen that Town and Notts County are the joint worst offenders in the division. Both have 87 yellow cards and 7 red. For some reason, County are 4 disciplinary points worse than us, making them the "league leaders". Looks like we still have a title to aim for after all!
Just seen that Town and Notts County are the joint worst offenders in the division. Both have 87 yellow cards and 7 red. For some reason, County are 4 disciplinary points worse than us, making them the "league leaders". Looks like we still have a title to aim for after all! Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Yes Den, I know that was all in jest, but we really do have to turn things around. Our record is disgraceful and the Coops complains at times about refs. We have hardly endeared ourselves to them and that probably is reflected in the stance towards us. Who do you reward, the good player with a tidy approach and reputation or the bad boy who fouls wantonly most weeks and picks up a collection of yellows and three reds ?

If you were a ref, who would you listen too, a player with a good record, or one who has "form" over the season. Of course you have to be impartial, but your instinct will lean you to giving more ear to the good guy, even though on this particular occasion he may have been the aggressor, but human nature will step in and he gets a verbal warning, but the innocent guy in this instance, will have probably set himself up for a yellow because of the abuse he is giving you, and that has been how we have collected a lot of cards, needlessly, this season.

Its no good Cooper or any other manager standing there and letting this nonsense go on every week, he should have stepped in very early in the season and got stuck into the whole squad and set down some hard and fast rules. Too many pretty boys getting away with far too much for far too long and now against The Slug, we have key men missing, BAH !!!!!
Not acceptable.
Yes Den, I know that was all in jest, but we really do have to turn things around. Our record is disgraceful and the Coops complains at times about refs. We have hardly endeared ourselves to them and that probably is reflected in the stance towards us. Who do you reward, the good player with a tidy approach and reputation or the bad boy who fouls wantonly most weeks and picks up a collection of yellows and three reds ? If you were a ref, who would you listen too, a player with a good record, or one who has "form" over the season. Of course you have to be impartial, but your instinct will lean you to giving more ear to the good guy, even though on this particular occasion he may have been the aggressor, but human nature will step in and he gets a verbal warning, but the innocent guy in this instance, will have probably set himself up for a yellow because of the abuse he is giving you, and that has been how we have collected a lot of cards, needlessly, this season. Its no good Cooper or any other manager standing there and letting this nonsense go on every week, he should have stepped in very early in the season and got stuck into the whole squad and set down some hard and fast rules. Too many pretty boys getting away with far too much for far too long and now against The Slug, we have key men missing, BAH !!!!! Not acceptable. the wizard
  • Score: -1

12:52pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

Wiz, I think you've hit on a good point there. A booking can be for something that looks fairly innocuous but it's often the case that it comes at the end of repeated fouls or verbals. We often see refs warning players that it's their last chance but it doesn't seem to stop ours. A classic example was Kasim (I think) in the JPT at Peterborough. As the ref was booking him he said "I told you to shut up and you didn't!" In the heat of the moment we all say and do things we regret later but there's not much excuse when you've been given the chance to get off the hook and don't take it.
Wiz, I think you've hit on a good point there. A booking can be for something that looks fairly innocuous but it's often the case that it comes at the end of repeated fouls or verbals. We often see refs warning players that it's their last chance but it doesn't seem to stop ours. A classic example was Kasim (I think) in the JPT at Peterborough. As the ref was booking him he said "I told you to shut up and you didn't!" In the heat of the moment we all say and do things we regret later but there's not much excuse when you've been given the chance to get off the hook and don't take it. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

1:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

Without doubt our discipline on the pitch this season has been appalling , being carded for a tackling is one thing and may or may not be justified for a variety of reasons , in which case the ref has to decide ,rightfully or wrongly .But their is no excuse for back- chatting the ref or getting involved in off the ball fracas , its been on going all season , and should of been nipped in the bud a lot sooner by Mark Cooper , nothing wrong with being aggressive , but for goodness sake lets channel it into the right areas, like sweating blood for the cause and giving it everything for 90 minutes . I agree with the above posts- discipline will definitely have to improve next season , with a smaller squad .
Without doubt our discipline on the pitch this season has been appalling , being carded for a tackling is one thing and may or may not be justified for a variety of reasons , in which case the ref has to decide ,rightfully or wrongly .But their is no excuse for back- chatting the ref or getting involved in off the ball fracas , its been on going all season , and should of been nipped in the bud a lot sooner by Mark Cooper , nothing wrong with being aggressive , but for goodness sake lets channel it into the right areas, like sweating blood for the cause and giving it everything for 90 minutes . I agree with the above posts- discipline will definitely have to improve next season , with a smaller squad . lifelong red
  • Score: 2

1:50pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Den, there are quite a few of us on here that have brought this up since the season started, and here we are in the last week with a terrible record that the club, players and management should be ashamed of , and yet they have done nothing seemingly to change things around. Only the other week Cooper was bleating away about players out, and there were many here saying, "Well Coops, who's fault is that", and still we continue doing just the same, week in, week out, last game of the season, at home , players missing. That tells me Cooper either isn't worried, doesn't care, or discipline is not a priority, yet history tells me that the teams that play well keep it tight, exercise good tackling and focus and put themselves in better positions because their minds are on the game, not only win games but invariably trophies , or gain promotion etc because their focus and skill is where they emphasize their game, not on ill timed tackles and remarks which will only ever bring about confrontations with officials. Get the players fit like a certain Italian did, fit bodies bring fit minds and less grief. Thompson needs to clean up his game before his popularity wanes, and surely it will if he continues to get dismissed from the field of play.. No point him being here if he continues to get three match bans, that is now the first two games next season as well, and TAH, 5oddin splendid, not.
Den, there are quite a few of us on here that have brought this up since the season started, and here we are in the last week with a terrible record that the club, players and management should be ashamed of , and yet they have done nothing seemingly to change things around. Only the other week Cooper was bleating away about players out, and there were many here saying, "Well Coops, who's fault is that", and still we continue doing just the same, week in, week out, last game of the season, at home , players missing. That tells me Cooper either isn't worried, doesn't care, or discipline is not a priority, yet history tells me that the teams that play well keep it tight, exercise good tackling and focus and put themselves in better positions because their minds are on the game, not only win games but invariably trophies , or gain promotion etc because their focus and skill is where they emphasize their game, not on ill timed tackles and remarks which will only ever bring about confrontations with officials. Get the players fit like a certain Italian did, fit bodies bring fit minds and less grief. Thompson needs to clean up his game before his popularity wanes, and surely it will if he continues to get dismissed from the field of play.. No point him being here if he continues to get three match bans, that is now the first two games next season as well, and TAH, 5oddin splendid, not. the wizard
  • Score: -4

2:45pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Wilesy says...

the wizard wrote:
Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place.

I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of.

Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said.
Cooper has previously said there is a fine system in place so they are already being penalised. I don't see how you can blame Cooper for some of Kasim's and Pritchard's silly bookings. It is something they need to sort out themselves and apply some self-discipline. In the heat of battle Cooper is powerless to stop them!

I suppose if the players were fitter then they would be able to reduce some of the lazy, cynical fouls where they don't fancy tracking back, but gobbing off is down to the player, not Cooper. Saying that I don't perceive us as a dirty side, like say Preston. I would be surprised if more than 25 of the cards were for bad tackles.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place. I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of. Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said.[/p][/quote]Cooper has previously said there is a fine system in place so they are already being penalised. I don't see how you can blame Cooper for some of Kasim's and Pritchard's silly bookings. It is something they need to sort out themselves and apply some self-discipline. In the heat of battle Cooper is powerless to stop them! I suppose if the players were fitter then they would be able to reduce some of the lazy, cynical fouls where they don't fancy tracking back, but gobbing off is down to the player, not Cooper. Saying that I don't perceive us as a dirty side, like say Preston. I would be surprised if more than 25 of the cards were for bad tackles. Wilesy
  • Score: 2

3:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

1 upfront on a must win game
Lost 2-0
4 yellows
2 reds
Tips from daddy.
Watering the pitch.
Another gutless away performance against another relegation fodder side.
Get real cooper you are weak,
Stop blaming the ref every game after our pathetic player fell into the same trap as Pritchard
Don't learn won't learn
1 upfront on a must win game Lost 2-0 4 yellows 2 reds Tips from daddy. Watering the pitch. Another gutless away performance against another relegation fodder side. Get real cooper you are weak, Stop blaming the ref every game after our pathetic player fell into the same trap as Pritchard Don't learn won't learn smirg kcab
  • Score: -13

3:12pm Mon 28 Apr 14

jillyh says...

Wilesy wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place.

I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of.

Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said.
Cooper has previously said there is a fine system in place so they are already being penalised. I don't see how you can blame Cooper for some of Kasim's and Pritchard's silly bookings. It is something they need to sort out themselves and apply some self-discipline. In the heat of battle Cooper is powerless to stop them!

I suppose if the players were fitter then they would be able to reduce some of the lazy, cynical fouls where they don't fancy tracking back, but gobbing off is down to the player, not Cooper. Saying that I don't perceive us as a dirty side, like say Preston. I would be surprised if more than 25 of the cards were for bad tackles.
Yes but I do see us an unfit side and as wizard mentioned if the players had the same training regime and focus as with pdc we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hate to think what next season will be like.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Sorry Coops but discipline has been laughable all season through its absence, and if the FA are going to punish anybody it should be you, because you have not stopped the rot from day one. Thompson sent off again, please tell, why is this, please explain why we have become the shambles and laughing stock, a dirty bunch who back chat the ref . Does the changing room have a competition going to who can muster the most reds. Fit players in mind and body do nor incur fouls or back chat the ref, They keep themselves under control and focus on the game and read it so reckless tackles and subsequent conversations with the ref don't take place. I suggest you put things in place for next season to prevent a re occurrence and from now on enforce a strict code throughout the club at all levels concerning on and off field activities and a heavy fine structure to prevent this club falling into the complete gutter as it has done this season. The conduct of some, on and off the field has been an embarrassment and our card tally is one that you as manager should be ashamed of. Sorry rant over, but it needed to be said.[/p][/quote]Cooper has previously said there is a fine system in place so they are already being penalised. I don't see how you can blame Cooper for some of Kasim's and Pritchard's silly bookings. It is something they need to sort out themselves and apply some self-discipline. In the heat of battle Cooper is powerless to stop them! I suppose if the players were fitter then they would be able to reduce some of the lazy, cynical fouls where they don't fancy tracking back, but gobbing off is down to the player, not Cooper. Saying that I don't perceive us as a dirty side, like say Preston. I would be surprised if more than 25 of the cards were for bad tackles.[/p][/quote]Yes but I do see us an unfit side and as wizard mentioned if the players had the same training regime and focus as with pdc we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hate to think what next season will be like. jillyh
  • Score: -7

3:20pm Mon 28 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role smirg kcab
  • Score: -5

3:33pm Mon 28 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

smirg kcab wrote:
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role[/p][/quote]I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Mon 28 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.
Nothing wrong with ranger.
I would buy a S/t just to see him.
I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role[/p][/quote]I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with ranger. I would buy a S/t just to see him. I'm sure you said he was guilty last time? smirg kcab
  • Score: -3

6:15pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the wizard says...

Wilesy, Whether Coooper has a structure in place or not, it is plain to see that it is not working, simple as that. he needs to be stricter and stronger when dealing with these issues. Strong and fair management brings with it respect and right now I feel that respect is not there.

Twenty five cards less on the tally I think everybody would welcome, especially Cooper as it would mean that probably all his players would be available for the last game of the season. There is obviously something not right with Thompson to incur the number of cards he has received this season, and I could not see that happening under PDC, he would not suffer the back chat so I see no reason as to why a ref should.
Cooper should have it well installed and into the mind set of his players back chat is costing us games and will not be tolerated. Player fitness is also down to Cooper or is it lack of player fitness this term, he was in charge of the pre season, so I hope his forthcoming season will see correction of some if not all the fundamental short comings of this season. I wish him well and am as anxious as everybody over tomorrows court ruling though I fear Jed will have the upper hand because the three puppets have already been allowed to sit where we don't want them. .
Wilesy, Whether Coooper has a structure in place or not, it is plain to see that it is not working, simple as that. he needs to be stricter and stronger when dealing with these issues. Strong and fair management brings with it respect and right now I feel that respect is not there. Twenty five cards less on the tally I think everybody would welcome, especially Cooper as it would mean that probably all his players would be available for the last game of the season. There is obviously something not right with Thompson to incur the number of cards he has received this season, and I could not see that happening under PDC, he would not suffer the back chat so I see no reason as to why a ref should. Cooper should have it well installed and into the mind set of his players back chat is costing us games and will not be tolerated. Player fitness is also down to Cooper or is it lack of player fitness this term, he was in charge of the pre season, so I hope his forthcoming season will see correction of some if not all the fundamental short comings of this season. I wish him well and am as anxious as everybody over tomorrows court ruling though I fear Jed will have the upper hand because the three puppets have already been allowed to sit where we don't want them. . the wizard
  • Score: -1

6:22pm Mon 28 Apr 14

lifelong red says...

smirg kcab wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.
Nothing wrong with ranger.
I would buy a S/t just to see him.
I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?
Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw .
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role[/p][/quote]I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with ranger. I would buy a S/t just to see him. I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?[/p][/quote]Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw . lifelong red
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Mon 28 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.
Nothing wrong with ranger.
I would buy a S/t just to see him.
I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?
Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw .
Now he's summond for discipline.
Who's going to discipline him? My guess it's the tea lady, because nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club?
[quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role[/p][/quote]I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with ranger. I would buy a S/t just to see him. I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?[/p][/quote]Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw .[/p][/quote]Now he's summond for discipline. Who's going to discipline him? My guess it's the tea lady, because nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club? smirg kcab
  • Score: 1

7:26pm Mon 28 Apr 14

umpcah says...

smirg kcab wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
lifelong red wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role
I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.
Nothing wrong with ranger.
I would buy a S/t just to see him.
I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?
Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw .
Now he's summond for discipline.
Who's going to discipline him? My guess it's the tea lady, because nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club?
" nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club? " SOMEONE must know but is not ready to confess to it !
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lifelong red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: We need a commited leader as captain like ranger for next seaso as clearly thompsons a liability in this role[/p][/quote]I think you may have a good point there- maybe it is to early for Thompson to be lumbered with the role of captain at this point in his young career , perhaps someone older and with a little bit more experience , but please don't mention Rangers name - not after what was witnessed yesterday.[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with ranger. I would buy a S/t just to see him. I'm sure you said he was guilty last time?[/p][/quote]Like most others- was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt , and with the hope he would mend his ways off the pitch , but this latest episode was the last straw .[/p][/quote]Now he's summond for discipline. Who's going to discipline him? My guess it's the tea lady, because nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club?[/p][/quote]" nobody knows who owns this shambles of a club? " SOMEONE must know but is not ready to confess to it ! umpcah
  • Score: 0

7:44pm Mon 28 Apr 14

subbuteoles says...

Nile Ranger will have his contract with STFC terminated. The lads an idiot. He,s had more chances than a game of Monopoly!. I for one don,t want our club associated with a woman beater and dragged through the s**t that the National newspapers will label us with AGAIN. GET RID NOW!.
Nile Ranger will have his contract with STFC terminated. The lads an idiot. He,s had more chances than a game of Monopoly!. I for one don,t want our club associated with a woman beater and dragged through the s**t that the National newspapers will label us with AGAIN. GET RID NOW!. subbuteoles
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Mon 28 Apr 14

oo-r-ya? says...

The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him?
The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him? oo-r-ya?
  • Score: 5

8:47pm Mon 28 Apr 14

smirg kcab says...

oo-r-ya? wrote:
The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him?
You need to worry more about power v mccrory
Instead of ranger. That's more embarrassing.
I class him as a swindon player the best player we have
[quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him?[/p][/quote]You need to worry more about power v mccrory Instead of ranger. That's more embarrassing. I class him as a swindon player the best player we have smirg kcab
  • Score: 2

9:07pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oi Den! says...

oo-r-ya? wrote:
The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him?
Exactly. The notion that we were getting a valuable player for nothing was pie in the sky. We got him because nobody else wanted him and all the trouble that comes with him. They'll want him even less now. Anyway, he's out of contract, so the only way we could possibly get a fee for him is by taking up the option to extend his deal. If we did that, it would be the end of the road for many previously loyal supporters. Stranger things have happened though, and I certainly wouldn't bet against it if the McCrory crew win the court case.

Grim, under normal circumstances I would agree that the prospect of seeing Ranger play would be worth the admission money. The circumstances are far from normal though. For how long is the club supposed to tolerate his terrible behaviour? And what sort of message does it send to the rest of the players if it keeps being tolerated?
[quote][p][bold]oo-r-ya?[/bold] wrote: The only good thing about the Ranger incident is that the papers keep referring to him as "the ex-Newcastle player". Normally that would wind me up but I'm pleased we're not being associated with him. He's had plenty of chances to see the error of his ways. Get rid of him asap. Would be nice to get a fee for him but that's not very likely is it? Who'd touch him?[/p][/quote]Exactly. The notion that we were getting a valuable player for nothing was pie in the sky. We got him because nobody else wanted him and all the trouble that comes with him. They'll want him even less now. Anyway, he's out of contract, so the only way we could possibly get a fee for him is by taking up the option to extend his deal. If we did that, it would be the end of the road for many previously loyal supporters. Stranger things have happened though, and I certainly wouldn't bet against it if the McCrory crew win the court case. Grim, under normal circumstances I would agree that the prospect of seeing Ranger play would be worth the admission money. The circumstances are far from normal though. For how long is the club supposed to tolerate his terrible behaviour? And what sort of message does it send to the rest of the players if it keeps being tolerated? Oi Den!
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Mon 28 Apr 14

the wizard says...

18:10 28th April 2014

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground.

The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case.

The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.
18:10 28th April 2014 by Swindontownfc.co.uk SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground. The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case. The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing. the wizard
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11:59pm Mon 28 Apr 14

joey butler says...

the wizard wrote:
18:10 28th April 2014

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground.

The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case.

The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.
Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday'

There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: 18:10 28th April 2014 by Swindontownfc.co.uk SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground. The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case. The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.[/p][/quote]Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday' There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please? joey butler
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12:29am Tue 29 Apr 14

the wizard says...

joey butler wrote:
the wizard wrote:
18:10 28th April 2014

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground.

The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case.

The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.
Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday'

There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?
A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: 18:10 28th April 2014 by Swindontownfc.co.uk SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground. The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case. The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.[/p][/quote]Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday' There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?[/p][/quote]A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here. the wizard
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12:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

Wilesy says...

Ranger should be sacked and we should move on. Punching a woman is not acceptable, that footage is indefensible and I have no desire for me or my nipper to watch a woman beater play football.

Couldn't care less that he's the best player we have at the moment or that if we sign him we may be able to sell him to a club with low morals.

I do fear that because he is a good player the outcome will be he apologises, goes on an alcoholic rehab program (he's tweeted he's off the sauce as of now), and gets away with it again. I wouldn't give him that opportunity but I fear Power may.
Ranger should be sacked and we should move on. Punching a woman is not acceptable, that footage is indefensible and I have no desire for me or my nipper to watch a woman beater play football. Couldn't care less that he's the best player we have at the moment or that if we sign him we may be able to sell him to a club with low morals. I do fear that because he is a good player the outcome will be he apologises, goes on an alcoholic rehab program (he's tweeted he's off the sauce as of now), and gets away with it again. I wouldn't give him that opportunity but I fear Power may. Wilesy
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1:04am Tue 29 Apr 14

joey butler says...

the wizard wrote:
joey butler wrote:
the wizard wrote:
18:10 28th April 2014

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground.

The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case.

The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.
Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday'

There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?
A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here.
Wizard,

I was trying to give you a bit of credit there for what you posted, but as usual you have totally missed the point in your reply and got your knickers in yet another twist!

Possibly too late at night for you to understand Wizard, but did the club make a statement on Sunday? In the Adver report at 6.15pm Monday, the club CLEARLY REFER TO 'YESTERDAYS CLUB STATEMENT' which would mean Sunday, would it not??
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: 18:10 28th April 2014 by Swindontownfc.co.uk SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground. The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case. The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.[/p][/quote]Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday' There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?[/p][/quote]A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here.[/p][/quote]Wizard, I was trying to give you a bit of credit there for what you posted, but as usual you have totally missed the point in your reply and got your knickers in yet another twist! Possibly too late at night for you to understand Wizard, but did the club make a statement on Sunday? In the Adver report at 6.15pm Monday, the club CLEARLY REFER TO 'YESTERDAYS CLUB STATEMENT' which would mean Sunday, would it not?? joey butler
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1:15am Tue 29 Apr 14

the wizard says...

joey butler wrote:
the wizard wrote:
joey butler wrote:
the wizard wrote:
18:10 28th April 2014

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground.

The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case.

The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.
Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday'

There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?
A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here.
Wizard,

I was trying to give you a bit of credit there for what you posted, but as usual you have totally missed the point in your reply and got your knickers in yet another twist!

Possibly too late at night for you to understand Wizard, but did the club make a statement on Sunday? In the Adver report at 6.15pm Monday, the club CLEARLY REFER TO 'YESTERDAYS CLUB STATEMENT' which would mean Sunday, would it not??
Yes indeed it would. I must admit that I have not had time to go back that far to check, but I have voted for him to be sacked. The guy has obvious talent on the pitch , big shame his private life is such a huge mess. His goals helped this season, and with Ajose going back, big shame, I suppose he was an affordable option, shame about the luggage but he does invite it on himself. Anyway, I cannot condone this assault on a young lady, however, I did note as did others she didn't run away, so that may cloud the issue in court, unless she has brought a complaint since. It may all turn out to be academic anyway because by this time tomorrow Jed may be back in control and Power out of the loop all together, in that case skid row beckons.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: 18:10 28th April 2014 by Swindontownfc.co.uk SWINDON Town can confirm that, following yesterday's club statement, meetings have taken place between senior members of the Club and, having consulted with the various football bodies, the Club have invited Nile Ranger to attend a disciplinary hearing on Thursday, 1st may 2014 to take place at The County Ground. The Club have contacted Nile informing him of this meeting. Meanwhile, an investigation is being carried out. The Club have provided Nile with reasonable notice of this disciplinary meeting to allow him the opportunity to state his case. The Club will make a further statement following Thursday's hearing.[/p][/quote]Given that it is still Monday at the time of Wizard and I posting, WHAT club statement was issued on Sunday? ie. 'yesterday' There was surely no club statement on Ranger Sunday, or have we all lost the plot please?[/p][/quote]A straight cut and paste from a mailing I received from the club via Facebook, any issues with the timing I suggest you take up with them, I neither added or took away anything. I take it you have added your vote to the poll run by The Adver. No plot lost here.[/p][/quote]Wizard, I was trying to give you a bit of credit there for what you posted, but as usual you have totally missed the point in your reply and got your knickers in yet another twist! Possibly too late at night for you to understand Wizard, but did the club make a statement on Sunday? In the Adver report at 6.15pm Monday, the club CLEARLY REFER TO 'YESTERDAYS CLUB STATEMENT' which would mean Sunday, would it not??[/p][/quote]Yes indeed it would. I must admit that I have not had time to go back that far to check, but I have voted for him to be sacked. The guy has obvious talent on the pitch , big shame his private life is such a huge mess. His goals helped this season, and with Ajose going back, big shame, I suppose he was an affordable option, shame about the luggage but he does invite it on himself. Anyway, I cannot condone this assault on a young lady, however, I did note as did others she didn't run away, so that may cloud the issue in court, unless she has brought a complaint since. It may all turn out to be academic anyway because by this time tomorrow Jed may be back in control and Power out of the loop all together, in that case skid row beckons. the wizard
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6:12am Tue 29 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

As it happens Ranger is only being charged with criminal damage and not assault - not that, that condones his actions in hitting the lady in question.
As it happens Ranger is only being charged with criminal damage and not assault - not that, that condones his actions in hitting the lady in question. The Jockster
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7:10am Tue 29 Apr 14

LydiardRED67 says...

The Jockster wrote:
As it happens Ranger is only being charged with criminal damage and not assault - not that, that condones his actions in hitting the lady in question.
As you say it doesn't condone his actions and I suspect it had more to do with the victim not willing to press charges. If the criminal damage charge is settled financially, he may well escape legel recourse again.

9 lives?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: As it happens Ranger is only being charged with criminal damage and not assault - not that, that condones his actions in hitting the lady in question.[/p][/quote]As you say it doesn't condone his actions and I suspect it had more to do with the victim not willing to press charges. If the criminal damage charge is settled financially, he may well escape legel recourse again. 9 lives? LydiardRED67
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