THE VIC MORGAN COLUMN: Is there an alternative to penalties?

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Tijane Reis missed the crucial penalty on Monday Tijane Reis missed the crucial penalty on Monday

SO WHAT’S the alternative?

Monday's penalty shoot-out ‘defeat’ to Peterborough was another in the catalogue of Swindon/England disappointments.

Don't know about you but when these things are about to take place, there's a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. A feeling of the inevitable. It always seems to happen, be it World Cups, European Championships, FA Cup or JPT, the empty feeling as you walk away from the stadium or switch off the TV.

On the journey back to Devon on Monday night via yet another roadwork closure at Bristol (when will THAT ever end) I mused on how else a game might be decided.

In years gone by it was the toss of a coin. The two captains in the middle of the pitch with the referee. I can imagine the analysis now can't you? The advice from the pundits and us the fans on how to flip the 50p piece. The endless replays of how gravity pulls the spinning disc to the ground and the look of despair when it falls the wrong way.

The ‘away goals rule’ is another way of deciding it. Seems odd to me that it doesn't apply in the JPT area finals. That's not being written just because we would have gone though had it been in force. It just rewards the side that scores more in the away leg encouraging attacking football. Simple really.

In six-a-sides the number of corners comes into play. Reasonable I suppose. Again it promotes the positive.

Don't suppose the rules will change though and I don't remember worrying about it on a balmy South London night at Charlton a few years back. Any suggestions?

Two Wembley visits denied by 12 yard mishaps, remember Brentford?

What's the alternative?

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7:04am Thu 20 Feb 14

Since 1950 says...

Win it in regulation!
Win it in regulation! Since 1950
  • Score: 4

7:41am Thu 20 Feb 14

mandrossian says...

Of course everyone remembers Brentford.....

I agree away goals should count in the JPT, but not in the playoffs as that is the culmination of a league season where away results are worth no more than home.

I also don't agree that the away goals rule promotes attacking, at least not in the first leg - as the home side is scared of it and plays more defensively.
Of course everyone remembers Brentford..... I agree away goals should count in the JPT, but not in the playoffs as that is the culmination of a league season where away results are worth no more than home. I also don't agree that the away goals rule promotes attacking, at least not in the first leg - as the home side is scared of it and plays more defensively. mandrossian
  • Score: 1

7:54am Thu 20 Feb 14

Billy hunt 65 says...

Be more attack minded in the second half and don't sit back on a 1:0 lead Mr Cooper.
Posh defence was a shambles and we didn't exploit it.
Missed the gangsta big time.
Be more attack minded in the second half and don't sit back on a 1:0 lead Mr Cooper. Posh defence was a shambles and we didn't exploit it. Missed the gangsta big time. Billy hunt 65
  • Score: -5

8:19am Thu 20 Feb 14

mandrossian says...

Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available?

The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error
Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available? The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error mandrossian
  • Score: 6

8:33am Thu 20 Feb 14

castle9 says...

mandrossian wrote:
Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available?

The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error
Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky
through one unfortunate mistake.

Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all.
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available? The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error[/p][/quote]Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky through one unfortunate mistake. Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all. castle9
  • Score: 7

8:33am Thu 20 Feb 14

castle9 says...

mandrossian wrote:
Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available?

The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error
Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky
through one unfortunate mistake.

Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all.
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available? The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error[/p][/quote]Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky through one unfortunate mistake. Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all. castle9
  • Score: 1

8:50am Thu 20 Feb 14

sadgit says...

castle9 wrote:
mandrossian wrote:
Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available?

The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error
Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky
through one unfortunate mistake.

Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all.
You don't need to be a manager to see that the tactics were wrong and ultimately very costly.
[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: Attack with which players? NGuessan who was barely able to walk by the end? Or all the other strikers we had available? The tactics worked fine barring one terrible error[/p][/quote]Exactly. Tactics restricted Posh to very few attempts on goal, they got lucky through one unfortunate mistake. Comments on here criticising "tactics" from armchair fans that have never managed a team for a living are laughable. Probably only ever managed on FIFA and think they know it all.[/p][/quote]You don't need to be a manager to see that the tactics were wrong and ultimately very costly. sadgit
  • Score: -11

9:23am Thu 20 Feb 14

castle9 says...

In your opinion based on no experience. Did you actually read my comment and that of Mandrossian?
In your opinion based on no experience. Did you actually read my comment and that of Mandrossian? castle9
  • Score: 0

10:44am Thu 20 Feb 14

sadgit says...

castle9 wrote:
In your opinion based on no experience. Did you actually read my comment and that of Mandrossian?
You obviously know everything about me then!
[quote][p][bold]castle9[/bold] wrote: In your opinion based on no experience. Did you actually read my comment and that of Mandrossian?[/p][/quote]You obviously know everything about me then! sadgit
  • Score: 0

10:53am Thu 20 Feb 14

McNerd says...

If it ends as a draw, why not just say the most recent goal wins. That should stop the foot coming off the gas if you go one up, since you know that if the opposition can level it then they win.
1 goal isn't a lead, it's just an advantage.
If it ends as a draw, why not just say the most recent goal wins. That should stop the foot coming off the gas if you go one up, since you know that if the opposition can level it then they win. 1 goal isn't a lead, it's just an advantage. McNerd
  • Score: 2

1:00pm Thu 20 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

Have a bye to the final. Or change the manager before big games
Have a bye to the final. Or change the manager before big games smirg kcab
  • Score: -3

1:43pm Thu 20 Feb 14

RamsburyRed says...

I don't know why people still complain about penalty shoot-outs. They have been part of the game for some time and are a fair way of deciding a tie. Some people even call them a lottery - nonsense. A lottery would be the toss of a coin (as mentioned above). Penalties are a test of skill an nerve.
I don't know why people still complain about penalty shoot-outs. They have been part of the game for some time and are a fair way of deciding a tie. Some people even call them a lottery - nonsense. A lottery would be the toss of a coin (as mentioned above). Penalties are a test of skill an nerve. RamsburyRed
  • Score: 0

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