Cooper brands his side the underdogs ahead of Wembley showdown

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

PETERBOROUGH United remain favourites to progress to the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy final in the eyes of Swindon Town manager Mark Cooper, who’s reiterated that “favourites don’t always win”.

Having recovered from 2-0 and a man down at London Road 12 days ago, Swindon go into tonight’s clash with Posh level on aggregate and looking to secure a third trip to Wembley in less than four years.

Many fans and pundits have earmarked Town as the more likely of the two sides to progress, given their good home record this season, but Cooper feels Peterborough’s expensively-assembled squad - which now includes loan signings Josh McQuoid and Ben Nugent - are a major threat.

“Obviously Peterborough is a really tough game and they’re going to be odds-on favourites to beat us with the squad they’ve got and it’s going to be very difficult for us,” he said.

“Hopefully the resolve we’ve shown can be carried over and we can prove a few people wrong, upset the form book and get to Wembley.

“They have to be favourites because of their squad, the money they’ve spent and you look at the two players they’ve just brought in.

“For me they are favourites but favourites don’t always win.”

Town beat Plymouth Argyle, Wycombe Wanderers and Stevenage en route to reaching the JPT southern section area final and find themselves 90 minutes from Wembley - a prospect Cooper and Swindon owner Lee Power discussed at the start of the campaign.

“Before the first round Lee and myself sat down and we said, because we got a bye, that we were only three or four games away.

“We said it was a realistic opportunity to get to Wembley and bring in some much-needed revenue,” he said.

“I’m not saying we targeted it but we looked at it and thought maybe we had a realistic chance if the draw was kind to us, which it has been.”

Cooper has been a Wembley winner in the past, leading Darlington to FA Trophy success three years ago, and he would recommend the experience to anyone.

“It was brilliant. At whatever level you go to Wembley, in whatever trophy or competition, to win at Wembley or to play at Wembley, I would suggest, is one of the best days of your career,” he said.

“For me, with the way the team I was looking after won it, in the 120th minute, was fantastic.

“I said to the players before last Wednesday that when you finish your career, if you go to Wembley and win - no matter what trophy - you’ll always look back on it and remember it with great fondness.

“You remember the winning goal go in and the end where all your fans are.

“It’s incredible. There’s a lot of work to do before we start talking about that - a really tough game against a team that got a really good result against Leyton Orient last week.

“We’ll have it all to do, it will be a really tough game.”

Talk of the final will be kept to a minimum in the Town dressing room prior to kick-off, however, as Cooper tries to preserve his team’s focus.

“If you start talking about the occasion and everything surrounding it the players forget to concentrate on the football, which is what you have to do to win,” he said. “We’ll be focusing fully on the game, letting all the razzmatazz around it go on and focus fully on what happens in the 90 minutes and penalties if it needs them.”

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8:57am Mon 17 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

Don't want to be pessimistic but if we weren't underdogs before Friday we certainly are with Ranger being out - not sure what kind of a team we'll have out tonight. Would think Dany N'Guessan has to start up front, guessing he'll be played as a loan striker with others supporting. Nathan Thompson and McEveley out will mean Byrne and one other playing (Bartram?).

Thinking it will be quite a defensive lineup, but given that it's fairly likely we'll concede I'm just wondering where our goals will come from. Hoping for a positive performance anyway rather than trying to park the bus at home, and if there's enough resolve we should be able to get something from the game. Got a funny feeling it may end up going to penalties and then it's anyone's guess, although obviously would like us to grind out a win in normal time.

Anyway, let's give it the best go we can, COYR.
Don't want to be pessimistic but if we weren't underdogs before Friday we certainly are with Ranger being out - not sure what kind of a team we'll have out tonight. Would think Dany N'Guessan has to start up front, guessing he'll be played as a loan striker with others supporting. Nathan Thompson and McEveley out will mean Byrne and one other playing (Bartram?). Thinking it will be quite a defensive lineup, but given that it's fairly likely we'll concede I'm just wondering where our goals will come from. Hoping for a positive performance anyway rather than trying to park the bus at home, and if there's enough resolve we should be able to get something from the game. Got a funny feeling it may end up going to penalties and then it's anyone's guess, although obviously would like us to grind out a win in normal time. Anyway, let's give it the best go we can, COYR. Swindon1984
  • Score: 4

10:03am Mon 17 Feb 14

who am i says...

Totally agree with cooper for once. With posh squad and the fact we struggling for strikers and our home form of late I can only see one winner but still very much hoping it will be us of course.
Totally agree with cooper for once. With posh squad and the fact we struggling for strikers and our home form of late I can only see one winner but still very much hoping it will be us of course. who am i
  • Score: 4

11:47am Mon 17 Feb 14

London Red says...

I totally disagree and think it is a case of Cooper tryings some Happy One Mind games
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Posh are suffering just as much as us actually more so with Ajose and Washington Cup-Tied and Tomlin gone. So thats 3 strikers down!
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They also have Nugent and Baldwin cup-tied so their defence is not as strong as it could be and McCann is struggling with an injury in the middle
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We still have plenty of attacking options - so this 460 and defensive talk is nonsence - OK these may not be an out an out target man - but still are attacking players in N'Guessan, Barker, Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane. Plus Waldon is back if we want another "striker"
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The lack of a target man hasn't stopped the likes of Liverpool or Barca playing a similar system! Besides while N'Guessan is not Ranger or Smith - he's no pushover at over 6ft and built like a brick house
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We should be able to adapt - play it on the ground and get it out wide quick to set the wingers free - then we can get crosses into the box as N'Guessan is good in the air and scored a few headers
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Plus we have Kasim to come back in fresh after a short break so will shore up the midfield battle
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So we can also have Luongo and Kasim supporting for cut backs etc to the edge of the box - both have shown they can score from there
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We can easily line up as:
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Wes
Barthram Troy Ward Byrne
Thompson Kasim
Murphy Luongo Pritchard
N'Guessan
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Then the bench will have 5 from Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Harley, Tijane, Barker and possibly Mason who is back in training
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Doesn't look weak to me and doesn't look defensive either
I totally disagree and think it is a case of Cooper tryings some Happy One Mind games . Posh are suffering just as much as us actually more so with Ajose and Washington Cup-Tied and Tomlin gone. So thats 3 strikers down! . They also have Nugent and Baldwin cup-tied so their defence is not as strong as it could be and McCann is struggling with an injury in the middle . We still have plenty of attacking options - so this 460 and defensive talk is nonsence - OK these may not be an out an out target man - but still are attacking players in N'Guessan, Barker, Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane. Plus Waldon is back if we want another "striker" . The lack of a target man hasn't stopped the likes of Liverpool or Barca playing a similar system! Besides while N'Guessan is not Ranger or Smith - he's no pushover at over 6ft and built like a brick house . We should be able to adapt - play it on the ground and get it out wide quick to set the wingers free - then we can get crosses into the box as N'Guessan is good in the air and scored a few headers . Plus we have Kasim to come back in fresh after a short break so will shore up the midfield battle . So we can also have Luongo and Kasim supporting for cut backs etc to the edge of the box - both have shown they can score from there . We can easily line up as: . Wes Barthram Troy Ward Byrne Thompson Kasim Murphy Luongo Pritchard N'Guessan . Then the bench will have 5 from Belford, Branco, A.Smith, Harley, Tijane, Barker and possibly Mason who is back in training . Doesn't look weak to me and doesn't look defensive either London Red
  • Score: 4

12:02pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing.

I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley.

If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.
completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing. I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley. If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes. Graham8181
  • Score: 0

12:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing.

I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley.

If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.
I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing. I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley. If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.[/p][/quote]I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start Graham8181
  • Score: -4

12:06pm Mon 17 Feb 14

AdderB says...

Dare i Say , Mark Cooper has loaned out Miles Storey before possibly our biggest game this season and now we dont have many striking options.

I hope N'guessen proves me wrong tonight but I was noti mpressed with him playing as a target man when Ranger was injured on Friday.

On the plus side , Troy has been immense and showed what a player we have missed for 18 months.

I have a feeling , this could go to pens
Dare i Say , Mark Cooper has loaned out Miles Storey before possibly our biggest game this season and now we dont have many striking options. I hope N'guessen proves me wrong tonight but I was noti mpressed with him playing as a target man when Ranger was injured on Friday. On the plus side , Troy has been immense and showed what a player we have missed for 18 months. I have a feeling , this could go to pens AdderB
  • Score: 0

12:12pm Mon 17 Feb 14

cricklade red says...

Think Smith is cup-tied .
Think Smith is cup-tied . cricklade red
  • Score: 4

12:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

AdderB wrote:
Dare i Say , Mark Cooper has loaned out Miles Storey before possibly our biggest game this season and now we dont have many striking options.

I hope N'guessen proves me wrong tonight but I was noti mpressed with him playing as a target man when Ranger was injured on Friday.

On the plus side , Troy has been immense and showed what a player we have missed for 18 months.

I have a feeling , this could go to pens
totally agree with your post on Troy, I have been his biggest critic since him playing his shocking couple of games back under Di Cannio I witnessed and was dreading him coming back. How wrong I was, he looks brilliant at the back and quite a threat when he breaks forward with the ball. Good in the air as well
[quote][p][bold]AdderB[/bold] wrote: Dare i Say , Mark Cooper has loaned out Miles Storey before possibly our biggest game this season and now we dont have many striking options. I hope N'guessen proves me wrong tonight but I was noti mpressed with him playing as a target man when Ranger was injured on Friday. On the plus side , Troy has been immense and showed what a player we have missed for 18 months. I have a feeling , this could go to pens[/p][/quote]totally agree with your post on Troy, I have been his biggest critic since him playing his shocking couple of games back under Di Cannio I witnessed and was dreading him coming back. How wrong I was, he looks brilliant at the back and quite a threat when he breaks forward with the ball. Good in the air as well Graham8181
  • Score: 0

12:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Swindonian63 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing.

I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley.

If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.
I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start
Smith played for Wimbledon in the JPT when he was on loan there. Pity!
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing. I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley. If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.[/p][/quote]I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start[/p][/quote]Smith played for Wimbledon in the JPT when he was on loan there. Pity! Swindonian63
  • Score: 0

12:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

cricklade red wrote:
Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
[quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ??? Graham8181
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12:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

Swindonian63 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing.

I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley.

If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.
I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start
Smith played for Wimbledon in the JPT when he was on loan there. Pity!
ah ok shame :(((
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: completely disagree with Cooper here and yep I think he's pulling a jose mourinho type comment for sure. I think we have got this one tonight. Since their key midfielder went (who got sent off against us) they look like nothing. I don't think Ranger being out will make too much difference (obviously wish he was playing though), we have a lot of depth in our squad now and am fully confident we will get a win tonight. I would not like to go as far as saying it will be comfortable but am confident we will be making the trip to Wembley. If we were playing someone like Walsall I would agree with above article, but Peterborough are nothing to be worried about in my eyes.[/p][/quote]I think Smith should start up front, he looks a good target man up front and I personally think he's had a very good start to his time at Swindon. him and n'guessan up front would be a good start[/p][/quote]Smith played for Wimbledon in the JPT when he was on loan there. Pity![/p][/quote]ah ok shame :((( Graham8181
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
cricklade red wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker.

LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively.

Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays.

But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building...

I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???[/p][/quote]London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see. Swindon1984
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Mon 17 Feb 14

stutest says...

I think LR was probably referring to Alex Smith.
I think Branco will start at right back, with Bartram able to come on later to add some pace.
I think LR was probably referring to Alex Smith. I think Branco will start at right back, with Bartram able to come on later to add some pace. stutest
  • Score: 0

1:00pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

Mind games from Cooper.

Is Ranger definitely out.....?

No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect!
Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect! Wilesy
  • Score: 2

1:20pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

Wilesy wrote:
Mind games from Cooper.

Is Ranger definitely out.....?

No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect!
I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so!
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect![/p][/quote]I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so! Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Mon 17 Feb 14

London Red says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cricklade red wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.
Barker is a striker is he not?
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Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not?
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So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated!
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Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top!
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So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers
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The styles I'm talking about are totally different too!
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In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything
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However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace
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We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too
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Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny
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Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry!
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Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either!
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We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game?
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We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening
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Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped?????
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???[/p][/quote]London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.[/p][/quote]Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not? . So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated! . Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top! . So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers . The styles I'm talking about are totally different too! . In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything . However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace . We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too . Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny . Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry! . Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either! . We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game? . We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening . Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped????? London Red
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2:16pm Mon 17 Feb 14

London Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Wilesy wrote: Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect!
I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so!
BBC say he MAY be out - was it he was taken off very early to ensure he didn't miss any more action?
.
Though if he is tight down there - maybe best not to play him on a boggy pitch as I would rathe rhim out tonight - than the whole of Feb and some of March!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect![/p][/quote]I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so![/p][/quote]BBC say he MAY be out - was it he was taken off very early to ensure he didn't miss any more action? . Though if he is tight down there - maybe best not to play him on a boggy pitch as I would rathe rhim out tonight - than the whole of Feb and some of March! London Red
  • Score: -1

2:29pm Mon 17 Feb 14

MoonrakerMatelot says...

5 hrs, 15 mins encounting...All this pre-match talk is now giving me the jitters.
Nervous, excitement...Hoping for a great atmosphere tonight, an inspired team selection from Coops and 100% effort and performance from the boys. We can do this! COYR!
5 hrs, 15 mins encounting...All this pre-match talk is now giving me the jitters. Nervous, excitement...Hoping for a great atmosphere tonight, an inspired team selection from Coops and 100% effort and performance from the boys. We can do this! COYR! MoonrakerMatelot
  • Score: 0

2:31pm Mon 17 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

S.M just tweeted rangers shirt is laid out in the dressing room.
Yippeeeee
S.M just tweeted rangers shirt is laid out in the dressing room. Yippeeeee smirg kcab
  • Score: 3

2:43pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cricklade red wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker.

LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively.

Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays.

But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building...

I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.
oh yes A Smith, my bad. apologies.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???[/p][/quote]London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.[/p][/quote]oh yes A Smith, my bad. apologies. Graham8181
  • Score: 0

2:51pm Mon 17 Feb 14

hertz says...

Ay ideas on gate tniht ?
Ay ideas on gate tniht ? hertz
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Mon 17 Feb 14

London Red says...

smirg kcab wrote:
S.M just tweeted rangers shirt is laid out in the dressing room. Yippeeeee
Nice one!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: S.M just tweeted rangers shirt is laid out in the dressing room. Yippeeeee[/p][/quote]Nice one! London Red
  • Score: 1

3:08pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

London Red wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cricklade red wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.
Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not? . So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated! . Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top! . So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers . The styles I'm talking about are totally different too! . In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything . However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace . We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too . Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny . Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry! . Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either! . We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game? . We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening . Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped?????
"Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not?"

Well yes, but you've mentioned three strikers, and I've said only one (N'Guessan) is recognised - Barker's played one game for us in which he did fairly poorly and Waldon's a bit of an unknown quantity. Not saying these players won't come good but as we're talking about a game being played this evening, our striking options are limited, our first choice strikers (Ranger and Smith) both unavailable (Smith certainly, Ranger likely). You've mentioned first teamers, Waldon and Barker aren't regular first team players for us at the moment, that surely can't be in dispute.

Anyway, as I said earlier we could sit here all day and speculate on how the team's going to perform and what tactics will be used - on paper it's easy enough to say what you think the lineup will be, how attacking we'll play, where we're going to get goals from, but we'll see before kick off if talking of a defensive lineup is nonsense, and we'll see during the match if we play defensively or not. I'm not saying we don't have attacking options, I'm saying based on some notable absentees I think it's likely we'll line up fairly defensively.

Will give you top marks for optimism though, only a world class spin doctor could take having our two preferred strikers out and call it a positive thing!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???[/p][/quote]London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.[/p][/quote]Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not? . So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated! . Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top! . So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers . The styles I'm talking about are totally different too! . In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything . However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace . We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too . Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny . Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry! . Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either! . We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game? . We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening . Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped?????[/p][/quote]"Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not?" Well yes, but you've mentioned three strikers, and I've said only one (N'Guessan) is recognised - Barker's played one game for us in which he did fairly poorly and Waldon's a bit of an unknown quantity. Not saying these players won't come good but as we're talking about a game being played this evening, our striking options are limited, our first choice strikers (Ranger and Smith) both unavailable (Smith certainly, Ranger likely). You've mentioned first teamers, Waldon and Barker aren't regular first team players for us at the moment, that surely can't be in dispute. Anyway, as I said earlier we could sit here all day and speculate on how the team's going to perform and what tactics will be used - on paper it's easy enough to say what you think the lineup will be, how attacking we'll play, where we're going to get goals from, but we'll see before kick off if talking of a defensive lineup is nonsense, and we'll see during the match if we play defensively or not. I'm not saying we don't have attacking options, I'm saying based on some notable absentees I think it's likely we'll line up fairly defensively. Will give you top marks for optimism though, only a world class spin doctor could take having our two preferred strikers out and call it a positive thing! Swindon1984
  • Score: 1

3:12pm Mon 17 Feb 14

umpcah says...

hertz wrote:
Ay ideas on gate tniht ?
blinkley men ong ?
[quote][p][bold]hertz[/bold] wrote: Ay ideas on gate tniht ?[/p][/quote]blinkley men ong ? umpcah
  • Score: 1

4:01pm Mon 17 Feb 14

itslove says...

Footballs a funny game. this is the comp for us. having lost to the spireites we need revenge and this cup at wembley . we are at home . we got a good draw at posh . we can do this. patience. consentration. no sillyness and we will get thro .
Footballs a funny game. this is the comp for us. having lost to the spireites we need revenge and this cup at wembley . we are at home . we got a good draw at posh . we can do this. patience. consentration. no sillyness and we will get thro . itslove
  • Score: 0

4:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

lifelong red says...

London Red wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cricklade red wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .
London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???
London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.
Barker is a striker is he not?
.
Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not?
.
So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated!
.
Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top!
.
So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers
.
The styles I'm talking about are totally different too!
.
In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything
.
However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace
.
We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too
.
Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny
.
Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry!
.
Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either!
.
We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game?
.
We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening
.
Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped?????
WOW ! are you by any chance - related to the " special one " lol.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cricklade red[/bold] wrote: Think Smith is cup-tied .[/p][/quote]London red has included him on the bench which is why I thought he wasn't ???[/p][/quote]London Red was referring to A Smith (i.e. Alex Smith) not Michael Smith, and not a striker. LR - I'm not sure you can say 4-6-0 and defensive talk is "nonsense" - N'Guessan is our only recognised striker and although I don't think we'll go 4-6-0 as N'Guessan will probably play lone striker, it's no good talking about getting balls in the box from your wingers if you only have one bloke in the box to aim for. In the one breath you've said we don't have a target man on the field and in the next you're suggesting playing a style of football that really needs a target man to work effectively. Hoping for a win tonight and it's not out of the question but I can't share your irrespressible optimism. I've seen the town play with attacking options out there in games (Crawley being the worst) where not having a proper striker up front meant we could only go so far and wouldn't have scored in a month of Sundays. But who knows - we can hypothesise all day but ultimately football's not an easy sport to predict - if it was I'd be a millionaire, and so will just have to wait and see. Tension is building... I'm guessing at 0-0 / 1-1 with penalties but we'll see.[/p][/quote]Barker is a striker is he not? . Also Waldon has returned from his laon and is a striker is he not? . So alongside N'Guessan that is 3 strikers available for tonight game - they can't be disguared just because they are not rated! . Also I included the wide men as forwards - they were classed as that when we had Ajose and N'Guessan playing there - so why are they not included now? so that gives us 6 clear options up top! . So yes talk of 460 and having to go defensive is nonsence as we have lots of options - of which 4 would clearly be seen as first teamers . The styles I'm talking about are totally different too! . In a 433 with a big man in the middle - attacks would normally pivot around the big man where balls are played up to him to start a move off - your old fashion Chelsea with Drogba involved in everything . However, I'm suggesting we don't have to go down that route tonight - as said Liverpool don't play this way at all - they simply break with midfielders (Cioutinho or Gerrard) looking to thread the channels with the wide men of Suarez and Stirling breaking at pace . We could adopt this approach as Pritchard, Murphy and Tijane are no slow coaches - so we should have Kasim or Luongo looking to thread balls down the Channels for them to break on too . Then if a decent ball is put into the box - you don't have to be a 7ft giant to get on the end of it - you just have to be in the right place - its the same way Falcao scores most his goals via headers at only 5'10 and at our level how Sam Baldock scores a fair few with his head despite being tiny . Look back to the Chelsea game and see N'Guessan's disallowed goal - that shows what he can do with decent balls coming into the box and against England internationals Cahill and Terry! . Yes he is no Ranger - but he is no Steven Cowe or Alan Young either! . We had No Ranger from Carlisleat home to Posh at home in the League - so no big man - yet coped - so why can't we now for 1 game? . We like to build from the back anyway - so playing it on the ground should not be an issue - its just about playing it forward and WIDE quicker - than via little triangles allowing the opposition to settle their back line to prevent gaps opening . Also if we can't play like this - how the hell would Storey have helped?????[/p][/quote]WOW ! are you by any chance - related to the " special one " lol. lifelong red
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Mon 17 Feb 14

old town robin says...

London Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
Wilesy wrote: Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect!
I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so!
BBC say he MAY be out - was it he was taken off very early to ensure he didn't miss any more action?
.
Though if he is tight down there - maybe best not to play him on a boggy pitch as I would rathe rhim out tonight - than the whole of Feb and some of March!
Saw Nile leaving the ground on Friday hopping along outside the Legends, judging by the fact he couldn't walk without a helping hand, i would think as much as I would like him to start, there is very little chance he could recover that quickly.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Mind games from Cooper. Is Ranger definitely out.....? No behind the scenes tours tonight I suspect![/p][/quote]I was thinking the same thing, it's strange there has been no mention of his injury leading up to the game, was Friday night all a show? lets hope so![/p][/quote]BBC say he MAY be out - was it he was taken off very early to ensure he didn't miss any more action? . Though if he is tight down there - maybe best not to play him on a boggy pitch as I would rathe rhim out tonight - than the whole of Feb and some of March![/p][/quote]Saw Nile leaving the ground on Friday hopping along outside the Legends, judging by the fact he couldn't walk without a helping hand, i would think as much as I would like him to start, there is very little chance he could recover that quickly. old town robin
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Mon 17 Feb 14

nosyrudeman says...

Come on you REDZZZZZZZZZ. any kind of win will do nicely. OTR I'll c u in the Legends.
Come on you REDZZZZZZZZZ. any kind of win will do nicely. OTR I'll c u in the Legends. nosyrudeman
  • Score: 0

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