PORT VALE v SWINDON TOWN: Standard of refereeing disappoints Kasim

Swindon Town's Yaser Kasim

Swindon Town's Yaser Kasim

First published in Sport

YASER Kasim feels a relatively low standard of refereeing has contributed to Swindon Town’s rising total of bookings for dissent this season.

Kasim will miss two matches for the League One Robins after picking up his 10th yellow card of the campaign after chatting back to whistleblower Paul Tierney at Peterborough United on Wednesday night.

Many of his Swindon teammates have been cautioned for things they have said rather than done on the pitch this term but, though Kasim stressed he does not go onto the field of play looking to pick a fight with officials, he suggested that the quality of officiating in recent months has left players concerned.

Speaking about his booking at London Road, the Iraqi told the Advertiser: “I was just really into the game and I got a bit angry at the referee, and I felt like saying things weren’t going our way. Obviously he got really angry, maybe because of the pressure and because it’s on TV.

“You don’t go out and try to have arguments with the referee. I spoke to him (Tierney) throughout the game and he was talking fine but I think because of the standard of refereeing we’ve had throughout the season – I’ve never experienced this standard, which is quite bad – when you go out there you’ve got a little bit of doubt that this guy’s going to face up.

“In a cup game, with a lot of pressure, a 50-50 game which could go either way, you get into it in the moment and, before you know it, he’s losing his cool because he’s getting so much pressure in the situation. You’re a player and you’re fighting to win.

“It could be down to the standard of refereeing. I’m not going to have a go at any referee because it is a tough job but the standard of refereeing has put a lot of doubt in my mind as to whether they can officiate the game.”

Kasim, who has made 34 appearances during a breakout season with Swindon, was unsurprisingly frustrated that he will have to watch Town’s next two outings from the sidelines.

He said: “Obviously I don’t like it because I like to play with momentum, game after game and training session after training session looking forward to games and it slows down my momentum quite a bit, but I’m still looking forward to when I get back even if it’s a bit annoying.

“In midfield you’ve got to make tackles to stop counter attacks and slow the game down so it’s going to happen, you’re going to get quite a few yellows.”

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6:30am Fri 7 Feb 14

california andy says...

The back chat has to stop. Cooper has to lay down the law on this, because it is costing us big time. Kassim and Pritchard are big offenders, and so is Nathan T. It's absolutely foolish. By all accounts many of these officials are useless, but they are that way for both teams much of the time, and in any event to give them excuses for yellow cards is ridiculous. Ten yellows for Kassim and Pritchard tells its own story. These are not dirty players, and most of the bookings are for back-chat. They need to grow up and shut up.

Jay also has this problem, but in addition, the red mist descends on him from time to time. He ought to be too experienced to let that happen, but on the sidelines, you can tell when he is working up to doing something crazy. If Cooper sees that coming, he needs to yank him off, but that is a crazy thing to say about an experienced professional footballer.
The back chat has to stop. Cooper has to lay down the law on this, because it is costing us big time. Kassim and Pritchard are big offenders, and so is Nathan T. It's absolutely foolish. By all accounts many of these officials are useless, but they are that way for both teams much of the time, and in any event to give them excuses for yellow cards is ridiculous. Ten yellows for Kassim and Pritchard tells its own story. These are not dirty players, and most of the bookings are for back-chat. They need to grow up and shut up. Jay also has this problem, but in addition, the red mist descends on him from time to time. He ought to be too experienced to let that happen, but on the sidelines, you can tell when he is working up to doing something crazy. If Cooper sees that coming, he needs to yank him off, but that is a crazy thing to say about an experienced professional footballer. california andy
  • Score: 6

7:04am Fri 7 Feb 14

Ian13 says...

Football would do well to adopt some Rugby rules - only the team captains should have access to the ref. and all this back chat and swearing at the ref. has got to stop.
Football would do well to adopt some Rugby rules - only the team captains should have access to the ref. and all this back chat and swearing at the ref. has got to stop. Ian13
  • Score: 6

8:30am Fri 7 Feb 14

Pewsham Red says...

Kasim is right, the standard of refereeing is really poor and we can see from the likes of Stuart Atwell that TV games tend to affect their displays. But surely if you know that refs are cr@p then why give them an easy reason to book you?

Backchat is easy to cut out and is the most pointless and avoidable card to receive. Cooper needs to sort this aspect out as we are not a dirty side.
Kasim is right, the standard of refereeing is really poor and we can see from the likes of Stuart Atwell that TV games tend to affect their displays. But surely if you know that refs are cr@p then why give them an easy reason to book you? Backchat is easy to cut out and is the most pointless and avoidable card to receive. Cooper needs to sort this aspect out as we are not a dirty side. Pewsham Red
  • Score: 5

9:31am Fri 7 Feb 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Learn to keep your mouth shut son.
Learn to keep your mouth shut son. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 6

9:53am Fri 7 Feb 14

London Red says...

The sub-standard refs may count for 1 or 2 bookings across the entire squad and be acceptable - but 10 by 2 players and numerous others on top across the squad is not acceptable
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I think Kasims yellow at MK could be "allowable" as the ref has sent Byrne off for a yellow card offence (Robinson never thought it was a red!) and then let Alli get away with a extremely dangerous lunge at Jay's knee without a booking or even a free kick! So players were right to be extremely angry at that one!
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But as I said that is 1 - but the other 9 haven't followed that type of action!
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I think as others have said it is time we lay down the law internally and fine all players who pick up yellows through dissent - if that doesn't teach them - nothing will!
The sub-standard refs may count for 1 or 2 bookings across the entire squad and be acceptable - but 10 by 2 players and numerous others on top across the squad is not acceptable . I think Kasims yellow at MK could be "allowable" as the ref has sent Byrne off for a yellow card offence (Robinson never thought it was a red!) and then let Alli get away with a extremely dangerous lunge at Jay's knee without a booking or even a free kick! So players were right to be extremely angry at that one! . But as I said that is 1 - but the other 9 haven't followed that type of action! . I think as others have said it is time we lay down the law internally and fine all players who pick up yellows through dissent - if that doesn't teach them - nothing will! London Red
  • Score: 2

10:18am Fri 7 Feb 14

Lordjim13 says...

The referees being poor leads directly to this, because they cover up their mistakes by booking anybody who tells them how crap they are being. I don't think we backchat any worse than any other team, but I do think we get victimised. I'm trying to be objective, I know you always think your team is getting the rough end of the stick, but I really think we do get the worse of the refereeing decisions. It's got something to do with our style of play--if you are trying to pass and move and beat the opposition with skill, then constant fouling on their part is frustrating. Pritchard gets the stuffing kicked out of him, and then he gets booked when he reacts. If we got any protection from the referees we'd be able to play better football and wouldn't have so many bookings from when the frustration boils over.

Refs can't even get it right at the top level (Javier Mascherano anyone? Andy Carroll?) and so at League One level we get complete incompetence most weeks.

Sure, they've got to learn to shut up...but I completely sympathise.
The referees being poor leads directly to this, because they cover up their mistakes by booking anybody who tells them how crap they are being. I don't think we backchat any worse than any other team, but I do think we get victimised. I'm trying to be objective, I know you always think your team is getting the rough end of the stick, but I really think we do get the worse of the refereeing decisions. It's got something to do with our style of play--if you are trying to pass and move and beat the opposition with skill, then constant fouling on their part is frustrating. Pritchard gets the stuffing kicked out of him, and then he gets booked when he reacts. If we got any protection from the referees we'd be able to play better football and wouldn't have so many bookings from when the frustration boils over. Refs can't even get it right at the top level (Javier Mascherano anyone? Andy Carroll?) and so at League One level we get complete incompetence most weeks. Sure, they've got to learn to shut up...but I completely sympathise. Lordjim13
  • Score: 1

10:58am Fri 7 Feb 14

MoonrakerMatelot says...

"Standard of Kasim's indiscipline disappoints fans"
"Standard of Kasim's indiscipline disappoints fans" MoonrakerMatelot
  • Score: -2

11:25am Fri 7 Feb 14

Redgollum says...

Refs are almost human & don't like continual criticism of their decisions. So, if a particular player keeps on moaning, the easiest way out is to book him. I learnt that from Sunday football, where we had a lot of little Hitlers in charge, mostly incompetent. I got fed up getting fined, so worked out that the best way was to compliment the guy from the start, get him on my side. Then, when there might be a controversial incident later, he would listen to me.
Refs are almost human & don't like continual criticism of their decisions. So, if a particular player keeps on moaning, the easiest way out is to book him. I learnt that from Sunday football, where we had a lot of little Hitlers in charge, mostly incompetent. I got fed up getting fined, so worked out that the best way was to compliment the guy from the start, get him on my side. Then, when there might be a controversial incident later, he would listen to me. Redgollum
  • Score: 1

11:31am Fri 7 Feb 14

London Red says...

Lordjim might have apoint - are we actually worse than any other team?
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I've lost count of the times I've said to the old man - why doesn't the ref just book X and that would stop them all gobbing off at him throughout the game
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So why is it we seem to get bookings for dissent and others don't - yet clearly do it?
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Is it what we actually say?
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Anyway - Power and Cooper need to address it internally as we can't afford to lose our key players to dissent
Lordjim might have apoint - are we actually worse than any other team? . I've lost count of the times I've said to the old man - why doesn't the ref just book X and that would stop them all gobbing off at him throughout the game . So why is it we seem to get bookings for dissent and others don't - yet clearly do it? . Is it what we actually say? . Anyway - Power and Cooper need to address it internally as we can't afford to lose our key players to dissent London Red
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

Cooper has to put his foot down, as mentioned above, take the rugby stance, only the captain to talk to the ref, any player booked for back chat should be fined and deducted a weeks wage if suspended,
Cooper has to put his foot down, as mentioned above, take the rugby stance, only the captain to talk to the ref, any player booked for back chat should be fined and deducted a weeks wage if suspended, Davidsyrett
  • Score: 0

1:13pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

Keep your comments to yourself Kasim. Also have to say we aren't great in terms of discipline, Thompson can be petulant (was poorly tackled at Yeovil last season and then flattened the bloke who did it afterwards) and his over reaching, studs up last ditch attempt to retain the ball on Wednesday was totally unnecessary as he should have layed the ball off long before, better options were available.

We don't get great refs, but then neither do other teams and I can't accept that we have it considerably worse than them. Also some comments above that we are a footballing side and therefore get kicked about the park are slightly wide of the mark, as it implies we don't do the same to others. I'd like us to be a hard, fair tackling side but often I've seen our lads lack of ability to win the ball back result in lunges which could have seen red on the wrong day (Coventry rings a bell - chasing shadows at times earlier in the game and you could see frustration from the town midfield, a few seemingly unable to stay on their feet whilst trying to win the ball back).

Trying to be a bit objective here - don't want us to be the team that are always whinging that we don't get treated fairly, there've been comments from a few players and manager recently, not to mention Jed a few months back getting on the bandwagon. If there's a genuine grievance take it up through the appropriate channels, moaning isn't really the answer. After all, we had a poor ref last week but he didn't cost us the game, we did that on our own.

Basically, your paid to do a job, the ref's paid to do his, each concentrate on their own. I always likened arguing with a ref with arguing with a bouncer - chuck me out of your nightclub, and I'll call you every name under the sun, is the bloke then going to think "ah, you're right and I was wrong, all is forgiven?" Same with refs, you may not agree with their decisions but you can only make the situation worse by being gobby.
Keep your comments to yourself Kasim. Also have to say we aren't great in terms of discipline, Thompson can be petulant (was poorly tackled at Yeovil last season and then flattened the bloke who did it afterwards) and his over reaching, studs up last ditch attempt to retain the ball on Wednesday was totally unnecessary as he should have layed the ball off long before, better options were available. We don't get great refs, but then neither do other teams and I can't accept that we have it considerably worse than them. Also some comments above that we are a footballing side and therefore get kicked about the park are slightly wide of the mark, as it implies we don't do the same to others. I'd like us to be a hard, fair tackling side but often I've seen our lads lack of ability to win the ball back result in lunges which could have seen red on the wrong day (Coventry rings a bell - chasing shadows at times earlier in the game and you could see frustration from the town midfield, a few seemingly unable to stay on their feet whilst trying to win the ball back). Trying to be a bit objective here - don't want us to be the team that are always whinging that we don't get treated fairly, there've been comments from a few players and manager recently, not to mention Jed a few months back getting on the bandwagon. If there's a genuine grievance take it up through the appropriate channels, moaning isn't really the answer. After all, we had a poor ref last week but he didn't cost us the game, we did that on our own. Basically, your paid to do a job, the ref's paid to do his, each concentrate on their own. I always likened arguing with a ref with arguing with a bouncer - chuck me out of your nightclub, and I'll call you every name under the sun, is the bloke then going to think "ah, you're right and I was wrong, all is forgiven?" Same with refs, you may not agree with their decisions but you can only make the situation worse by being gobby. Swindon1984
  • Score: 1

1:16pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

Redgollum wrote:
Refs are almost human & don't like continual criticism of their decisions. So, if a particular player keeps on moaning, the easiest way out is to book him. I learnt that from Sunday football, where we had a lot of little Hitlers in charge, mostly incompetent. I got fed up getting fined, so worked out that the best way was to compliment the guy from the start, get him on my side. Then, when there might be a controversial incident later, he would listen to me.
Good point. I always remember when I gave grief to a Sunday League ref he just laughed and politely said 'I'm sorry, we all get things wrong, that's why I'm reffing Sunday League and that's why you're playing Sunday League!!' Couldn't argue with that. Albeit that was after he had given a corner not a pen after their defender dived and tipped a shot round the post...

As for Kasim and Pritchard, they should take a leaf out of Ranger's book and just shut up and get on with it.
[quote][p][bold]Redgollum[/bold] wrote: Refs are almost human & don't like continual criticism of their decisions. So, if a particular player keeps on moaning, the easiest way out is to book him. I learnt that from Sunday football, where we had a lot of little Hitlers in charge, mostly incompetent. I got fed up getting fined, so worked out that the best way was to compliment the guy from the start, get him on my side. Then, when there might be a controversial incident later, he would listen to me.[/p][/quote]Good point. I always remember when I gave grief to a Sunday League ref he just laughed and politely said 'I'm sorry, we all get things wrong, that's why I'm reffing Sunday League and that's why you're playing Sunday League!!' Couldn't argue with that. Albeit that was after he had given a corner not a pen after their defender dived and tipped a shot round the post... As for Kasim and Pritchard, they should take a leaf out of Ranger's book and just shut up and get on with it. Wilesy
  • Score: 1

1:30pm Fri 7 Feb 14

RamsburyRed says...

No brainer really, if you think the refs are bad it's even more reason to keep your mouth shut.
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Brian Clough had many claims to greatness as a manager and one of them, for me, was that he would not accept any dissent or indiscipline from his players. For him, the ref was 'always right, even when he was wrong'. (It's pleasing that this attitude was handed down to some of his protegees, ie Martin O'Neil and Stuart Pearce to name two).
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As said above, players should be fined if booked for dissent, but I doubt if the club will instigate this because there is a definite air of persecution about us when it comes to refs and refereeing (totaly unwarranted).
No brainer really, if you think the refs are bad it's even more reason to keep your mouth shut. * Brian Clough had many claims to greatness as a manager and one of them, for me, was that he would not accept any dissent or indiscipline from his players. For him, the ref was 'always right, even when he was wrong'. (It's pleasing that this attitude was handed down to some of his protegees, ie Martin O'Neil and Stuart Pearce to name two). * As said above, players should be fined if booked for dissent, but I doubt if the club will instigate this because there is a definite air of persecution about us when it comes to refs and refereeing (totaly unwarranted). RamsburyRed
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

RamsburyRed wrote:
No brainer really, if you think the refs are bad it's even more reason to keep your mouth shut. * Brian Clough had many claims to greatness as a manager and one of them, for me, was that he would not accept any dissent or indiscipline from his players. For him, the ref was 'always right, even when he was wrong'. (It's pleasing that this attitude was handed down to some of his protegees, ie Martin O'Neil and Stuart Pearce to name two). * As said above, players should be fined if booked for dissent, but I doubt if the club will instigate this because there is a definite air of persecution about us when it comes to refs and refereeing (totaly unwarranted).
Couldn't agree more.
[quote][p][bold]RamsburyRed[/bold] wrote: No brainer really, if you think the refs are bad it's even more reason to keep your mouth shut. * Brian Clough had many claims to greatness as a manager and one of them, for me, was that he would not accept any dissent or indiscipline from his players. For him, the ref was 'always right, even when he was wrong'. (It's pleasing that this attitude was handed down to some of his protegees, ie Martin O'Neil and Stuart Pearce to name two). * As said above, players should be fined if booked for dissent, but I doubt if the club will instigate this because there is a definite air of persecution about us when it comes to refs and refereeing (totaly unwarranted).[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Swindon1984
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Fri 7 Feb 14

hertz says...

As in rugby , ref says to the Captain next time he back chats me I award 5 yards from the free kick to the opposition , the more chat he gets the further he moves the ball until his own team mates tell him to shut the FCUK up . Love or hate PDC he was despeately trying to break down player power , just had a strange way of administering it COYR
As in rugby , ref says to the Captain next time he back chats me I award 5 yards from the free kick to the opposition , the more chat he gets the further he moves the ball until his own team mates tell him to shut the FCUK up . Love or hate PDC he was despeately trying to break down player power , just had a strange way of administering it COYR hertz
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Fri 7 Feb 14

AdderB says...

I agree with California and many others. Simply saying the Refs are poor is no excuse for 10 bookings. Kasim was warned by the ref at Posh but decided to keep up the back chat. I would have thought that Kasim would remember he was on the verge of suspension , but instead he just talked himself into a booking .
I wonder where Town lay in a Div1 fair play league . My guess is close to bottom of it . Nathan T on 10 bookings I believe. Jay possibly 2 reds ?
I really wish the Advir did not trot out rubbish like this bye line.
Mark Cooper has being saying the same ( according to Advir) but he needs to sort out the bad discipline but blames the refs not his players.
Wake up and smell the coffee Mr Cooper !
I agree with California and many others. Simply saying the Refs are poor is no excuse for 10 bookings. Kasim was warned by the ref at Posh but decided to keep up the back chat. I would have thought that Kasim would remember he was on the verge of suspension , but instead he just talked himself into a booking . I wonder where Town lay in a Div1 fair play league . My guess is close to bottom of it . Nathan T on 10 bookings I believe. Jay possibly 2 reds ? I really wish the Advir did not trot out rubbish like this bye line. Mark Cooper has being saying the same ( according to Advir) but he needs to sort out the bad discipline but blames the refs not his players. Wake up and smell the coffee Mr Cooper ! AdderB
  • Score: -1

6:11pm Fri 7 Feb 14

AdderB says...

Well . Not a bad guess , we are second bottom of the fair play league

56 bookings and 4 reds. Only Notts county are worse.
These are the facts Mr Sports Editor !
Well . Not a bad guess , we are second bottom of the fair play league 56 bookings and 4 reds. Only Notts county are worse. These are the facts Mr Sports Editor ! AdderB
  • Score: -2

9:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

AdderB wrote:
Well . Not a bad guess , we are second bottom of the fair play league

56 bookings and 4 reds. Only Notts county are worse.
These are the facts Mr Sports Editor !
I would be interested to know how many of those are for fouls and how many for backchat....
[quote][p][bold]AdderB[/bold] wrote: Well . Not a bad guess , we are second bottom of the fair play league 56 bookings and 4 reds. Only Notts county are worse. These are the facts Mr Sports Editor ![/p][/quote]I would be interested to know how many of those are for fouls and how many for backchat.... Wilesy
  • Score: 1

8:33am Sat 8 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

London Red wrote:
Lordjim might have apoint - are we actually worse than any other team?
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I've lost count of the times I've said to the old man - why doesn't the ref just book X and that would stop them all gobbing off at him throughout the game
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So why is it we seem to get bookings for dissent and others don't - yet clearly do it?
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Is it what we actually say?
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Anyway - Power and Cooper need to address it internally as we can't afford to lose our key players to dissent
LR how do you know we get more bookings for dissent than other teams? Have you done one of your in-depth statistical reviews of every booking in L1 so far this season?
DS and others are right Cooper has to instil the discipline for players to keep their trap shut and Wardy should be endorsing that on the pitch. These are avoidable bookings and it has to stop because the worst offenders Pritchard, Nathan Kasim & Jmac are key players who we can ill afford to be without.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: Lordjim might have apoint - are we actually worse than any other team? . I've lost count of the times I've said to the old man - why doesn't the ref just book X and that would stop them all gobbing off at him throughout the game . So why is it we seem to get bookings for dissent and others don't - yet clearly do it? . Is it what we actually say? . Anyway - Power and Cooper need to address it internally as we can't afford to lose our key players to dissent[/p][/quote]LR how do you know we get more bookings for dissent than other teams? Have you done one of your in-depth statistical reviews of every booking in L1 so far this season? DS and others are right Cooper has to instil the discipline for players to keep their trap shut and Wardy should be endorsing that on the pitch. These are avoidable bookings and it has to stop because the worst offenders Pritchard, Nathan Kasim & Jmac are key players who we can ill afford to be without. The Jockster
  • Score: 0

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