Cooper confirms striker N'Guessan could leave Swindon Town

Preston are thought to be interested in taking Dany N'Guessan, right, away from the County Ground

Preston are thought to be interested in taking Dany N'Guessan, right, away from the County Ground

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DANY N’Guessan could go out on loan this week after manager Mark Cooper confirmed that the striker has been made available for transfer by Swindon Town.

The Advertiser revealed on Friday that N’Guessan, who has scored eight goals in 23 appearances for the Robins this term since arriving from Millwall in the summer, has been offered to clubs across the Football League following the signings of George Barker and Michael Smith in recent weeks.

Town’s League One rivals Preston are believed to the interested in the forward.

Cooper stressed that there had been no falling out with N’Guessan, as he suggested that the frontman needs to “put himself in the shop window”, with his current contract due to expire at the end of the campaign.

“We sent out a circular last week saying that we had numerous people available for transfer or loan,” Cooper said.

“We’ve had a few enquiries for Dany and I chose not to put him on the bench today. He can only go on loan because he’s already played for two clubs in the season and you’re only allowed to play for two, or three if it’s an emergency loan.

“He’s out of contract in the summer. He started really well, faded a little bit and he needs to go and play and maybe put himself in the shop window.

“It can happen, it’s one of those things. There was no falling out, Dany was good as gold about it and we’ll see what happens next week.”

When asked whether N’Guessan could leave the club by the time Town travel to the Midlands to face Walsall tomorrow night, Cooper said: “There’s also a chance he may come back into the reckoning with us, that’s football.”

Meanwhile, the Advertiser understands Town could still make a loan move for Liverpool striker Michael Ngoo despite the January signings of Smith and Barker.

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7:08am Mon 27 Jan 14

Haydonender says...

Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty. Haydonender
  • Score: 16

7:15am Mon 27 Jan 14

Swindon1984 says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
All very sensible points, think myself though they're trying to get rid of him. Would be interested to know who the other players transfer listed are?
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]All very sensible points, think myself though they're trying to get rid of him. Would be interested to know who the other players transfer listed are? Swindon1984
  • Score: 3

7:25am Mon 27 Jan 14

Baritone says...

Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found! Baritone
  • Score: -38

7:37am Mon 27 Jan 14

who am i says...

Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
some very good points there. not sure everyone will agree with them but i does make you wonder with some of the decisions that are being made. i just hope that power does have swindon best interest to heart.
[quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]some very good points there. not sure everyone will agree with them but i does make you wonder with some of the decisions that are being made. i just hope that power does have swindon best interest to heart. who am i
  • Score: 0

7:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

LeGod says...

To me he hasnt been given a faor crack in the side one week he is the next he is out and all players need three or four games to establish theirselves and now we have a top 6 sde in Preston who are looking to take him on loan so to me we have used him in the right way. If he is good enough for Preston surely MC and LP must be looking at that and think are they doing the right thing letting him go on loan.
To me he hasnt been given a faor crack in the side one week he is the next he is out and all players need three or four games to establish theirselves and now we have a top 6 sde in Preston who are looking to take him on loan so to me we have used him in the right way. If he is good enough for Preston surely MC and LP must be looking at that and think are they doing the right thing letting him go on loan. LeGod
  • Score: 4

7:54am Mon 27 Jan 14

WirralRed says...

still need a defender CB..
still need a defender CB.. WirralRed
  • Score: 9

7:57am Mon 27 Jan 14

Billy hunt 65 says...

Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same,
Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart
Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same, Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart Billy hunt 65
  • Score: -46

8:04am Mon 27 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

I feel sorry for Dany, he's always put in a decent shift, been very professional and he's scored some important goals for us. He has got more of a physical presence than Nile but I guess we now have Smith who also has that physical strength in his game. I know football these days no longer seems to have any loyalty left in it but I still can't help feeling we haven't given Dany a fair crack of the whip. If employers show such little concern for their employees then that culture is reflected by their workforce.

I feel concerned about Cooper's comment about having "......numerous people available for transfer or loan." Sounds like we are becoming a lower league player Ebay.

All the very best for the future Dany and thank you for all you have done for our club. I hope you find a decent club and do well.
I feel sorry for Dany, he's always put in a decent shift, been very professional and he's scored some important goals for us. He has got more of a physical presence than Nile but I guess we now have Smith who also has that physical strength in his game. I know football these days no longer seems to have any loyalty left in it but I still can't help feeling we haven't given Dany a fair crack of the whip. If employers show such little concern for their employees then that culture is reflected by their workforce. I feel concerned about Cooper's comment about having "......numerous people available for transfer or loan." Sounds like we are becoming a lower league player Ebay. All the very best for the future Dany and thank you for all you have done for our club. I hope you find a decent club and do well. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 12

8:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either.

If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either. If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again. old town robin
  • Score: 2

8:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either.

If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either. If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again. old town robin
  • Score: -3

8:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either.

If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either. If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again. old town robin
  • Score: -3

8:41am Mon 27 Jan 14

old town robin says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either.

If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either. If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again. old town robin
  • Score: -6

8:44am Mon 27 Jan 14

Bassett Hound says...

Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same,
Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart
Why is admin looming ?
[quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same, Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart[/p][/quote]Why is admin looming ? Bassett Hound
  • Score: 11

8:58am Mon 27 Jan 14

Robinonfire says...

Big SALE ends end of January.
Big SALE ends end of January. Robinonfire
  • Score: -14

9:18am Mon 27 Jan 14

sadgit says...

If we are serious about promotion why would we even consider loaning one of our top goal scorers to one of our promotion rivals?
If we are serious about promotion why would we even consider loaning one of our top goal scorers to one of our promotion rivals? sadgit
  • Score: 5

9:28am Mon 27 Jan 14

burley01rs says...

Why cant we let Ward go?
Why cant we let Ward go? burley01rs
  • Score: -11

9:55am Mon 27 Jan 14

Wilesy says...

On reflection I'm not hugely disappointed to see him go, and wish him well, but not sure what his best position is. When up front he's not particularly good at holding up the ball for a big man, and gets caught offside a lot. On the wing, he's not the most fleet of foot and hasn't got the greatest touch and it's a bit of a relief when he gets it under control and lays it off. Not a great one for tracking back either.

Psychadelic Sid are you sure about your comment that he has more of a presence than Ranger....
On reflection I'm not hugely disappointed to see him go, and wish him well, but not sure what his best position is. When up front he's not particularly good at holding up the ball for a big man, and gets caught offside a lot. On the wing, he's not the most fleet of foot and hasn't got the greatest touch and it's a bit of a relief when he gets it under control and lays it off. Not a great one for tracking back either. Psychadelic Sid are you sure about your comment that he has more of a presence than Ranger.... Wilesy
  • Score: 8

9:55am Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now Graham8181
  • Score: -21

10:02am Mon 27 Jan 14

Bassett Hound says...

Graham8181 wrote:
AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 8

10:57am Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens. Oi Den!
  • Score: -8

10:59am Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!! Graham8181
  • Score: -11

11:01am Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
and yes I know hall is injured
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!![/p][/quote]and yes I know hall is injured Graham8181
  • Score: -11

11:02am Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle. Oi Den!
  • Score: -27

11:05am Mon 27 Jan 14

avo says...

Graham8181 wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
Yes he can play centreback.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!![/p][/quote]Yes he can play centreback. avo
  • Score: 2

11:06am Mon 27 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph.

Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season?

I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted.

We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead.

I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.
[quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph. Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season? I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted. We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead. I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 14

11:22am Mon 27 Jan 14

Billy hunt 65 says...

Play Troy in midfield reminded me of Hoddle the last time he played there against the Maccs :))
Play Troy in midfield reminded me of Hoddle the last time he played there against the Maccs :)) Billy hunt 65
  • Score: -6

11:40am Mon 27 Jan 14

Psychedelic Syd says...

Wilesy wrote:
On reflection I'm not hugely disappointed to see him go, and wish him well, but not sure what his best position is. When up front he's not particularly good at holding up the ball for a big man, and gets caught offside a lot. On the wing, he's not the most fleet of foot and hasn't got the greatest touch and it's a bit of a relief when he gets it under control and lays it off. Not a great one for tracking back either.

Psychadelic Sid are you sure about your comment that he has more of a presence than Ranger....
Hi Wilesy, more of a physical presence than Nile in terms of going in harder and letting opposition defenders know he is there (and I suppose giving away fouls in the process!), certainly not greater impact than Ranger - Nile is a better player by far, different class.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: On reflection I'm not hugely disappointed to see him go, and wish him well, but not sure what his best position is. When up front he's not particularly good at holding up the ball for a big man, and gets caught offside a lot. On the wing, he's not the most fleet of foot and hasn't got the greatest touch and it's a bit of a relief when he gets it under control and lays it off. Not a great one for tracking back either. Psychadelic Sid are you sure about your comment that he has more of a presence than Ranger....[/p][/quote]Hi Wilesy, more of a physical presence than Nile in terms of going in harder and letting opposition defenders know he is there (and I suppose giving away fouls in the process!), certainly not greater impact than Ranger - Nile is a better player by far, different class. Psychedelic Syd
  • Score: 5

11:47am Mon 27 Jan 14

LeGod says...

Well sums it up today when the Shrewsbury manager said they have never had so many chances in a game as they did against us as normally they dont get many.

That sums it up for me Shrewsbury are a really poor side yet we made them look good and were lucky to win. I appreciate teams can have games like that but we seem to be having a few lately Stevenage, Giilingham plus most of the away games apart from three of four. I'm just wondering if we play with two big strikers tomorrow night whether Cooper will change the style for a more direct approach. As happenned on saturday where we slowed play down so much when we were in possession they had chance to get 10 men behind the ball and we had no width so i just get this feeling he will change the way we play tomorrow with Smith and Ranger up front.
Well sums it up today when the Shrewsbury manager said they have never had so many chances in a game as they did against us as normally they dont get many. That sums it up for me Shrewsbury are a really poor side yet we made them look good and were lucky to win. I appreciate teams can have games like that but we seem to be having a few lately Stevenage, Giilingham plus most of the away games apart from three of four. I'm just wondering if we play with two big strikers tomorrow night whether Cooper will change the style for a more direct approach. As happenned on saturday where we slowed play down so much when we were in possession they had chance to get 10 men behind the ball and we had no width so i just get this feeling he will change the way we play tomorrow with Smith and Ranger up front. LeGod
  • Score: 6

11:52am Mon 27 Jan 14

NORTH STAND says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph.

Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season?

I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted.

We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead.

I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.
Some good points Baritone - DS I do want to like Power (and do think he's a big step forward from having David Brent as Chair) but I am not currently sharing your optimism re the 'rebuilding'. I think we all understand the 'austerity' message for now but as far as I can see most of the current changes are not setting us up for a sustainable league 1, let alone championship, future....

We have signed a striker that couldn't cut it at Newport, a midfielder from Marlow and a defender bombed out of Plymouth. Smith started with two very welcome goals but I didn't see anything screaming 'exciting talent' in the Cox / Austin (or even Parkin) mode - he looks like a L2 big man (and to be fair, unlike the others, he has shown a modicum of success in that sphere) The three genuine L1 strikers that we did have at Christmas have a) gone back to a play off contender, b) are about to go to a play off contender and c) Lord only knows...

Now to take a positive view it may be that LP is simply buying up young squad players for the back up and development roles and fully intends to use this summers clear out to fund the proven L1 players required for next year. On that basis i am happily prepared to give the benefit of the doubt and write off the rest of this season (my relegation fears have all but eased following nine points from Coventry, Peterborough and Shrewsbury - though anyone who saw those games would be hard pushed to argue that we deserved more than two points in total) And that's without the sheer embarrassment of performances at Stevenage and Gills...

As far as I can see all we are doing at present is slashing spending (Coopers pre-rehearsed explanation that NGuessian is going for footballing reasons is frankly laughable) - if it all turns out ok in the summer and we do buy an experienced spine to play the youngsters around I will back Power all the way - at present however we are building a squad of Torquay, Rovers or Newport proportions and so (for me) until we see some real evidence of intent the jury is very much out...

Cue fifteen dislikes from the usual ostrich claws... but then if Den can get to minus three by asking a simple factual question...:)
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph. Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season? I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted. We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead. I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.[/p][/quote]Some good points Baritone - DS I do want to like Power (and do think he's a big step forward from having David Brent as Chair) but I am not currently sharing your optimism re the 'rebuilding'. I think we all understand the 'austerity' message for now but as far as I can see most of the current changes are not setting us up for a sustainable league 1, let alone championship, future.... We have signed a striker that couldn't cut it at Newport, a midfielder from Marlow and a defender bombed out of Plymouth. Smith started with two very welcome goals but I didn't see anything screaming 'exciting talent' in the Cox / Austin (or even Parkin) mode - he looks like a L2 big man (and to be fair, unlike the others, he has shown a modicum of success in that sphere) The three genuine L1 strikers that we did have at Christmas have a) gone back to a play off contender, b) are about to go to a play off contender and c) Lord only knows... Now to take a positive view it may be that LP is simply buying up young squad players for the back up and development roles and fully intends to use this summers clear out to fund the proven L1 players required for next year. On that basis i am happily prepared to give the benefit of the doubt and write off the rest of this season (my relegation fears have all but eased following nine points from Coventry, Peterborough and Shrewsbury - though anyone who saw those games would be hard pushed to argue that we deserved more than two points in total) And that's without the sheer embarrassment of performances at Stevenage and Gills... As far as I can see all we are doing at present is slashing spending (Coopers pre-rehearsed explanation that NGuessian is going for footballing reasons is frankly laughable) - if it all turns out ok in the summer and we do buy an experienced spine to play the youngsters around I will back Power all the way - at present however we are building a squad of Torquay, Rovers or Newport proportions and so (for me) until we see some real evidence of intent the jury is very much out... Cue fifteen dislikes from the usual ostrich claws... but then if Den can get to minus three by asking a simple factual question...:) NORTH STAND
  • Score: 3

11:56am Mon 27 Jan 14

NORTH STAND says...

avo wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
Yes he can play centreback.
To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here....
[quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!![/p][/quote]Yes he can play centreback.[/p][/quote]To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here.... NORTH STAND
  • Score: 4

11:58am Mon 27 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Players have come and gone as long as football has been played, some sold on, some not offered renewed contracts and since Bosman virtually they move when they want.

Just where have you been ?

Ever confront or accuse Ferguson, Mourihno or the whole list of managers that have had the liberty of control over employment of players over this ??

Players are a marketable commodity that why fees (and some high salries) for their services.

At least our owner has a background in the industry, just look to Cardiff, Hull or a number of other clubs where that tradition doesn't exist and ask your self would you really want that ?

Be careful what you wish for, success is not guaranteed even with an owner of the utmost ambition irrespective of how much they throw at it.

Success is but a passing feature few clubs achieve more.. think back to Arsenal last season their fans were apoplectic at Wengers direction..don't hear the same furore this season... same regime a few different players and guess what the criticism has evaporated ... and that angst was with a team that had a top 4 finish but for more years than I can remember...

If you follow a football team that is the way it is, other wise the alternative is tag rugby, tennis without making the other player run and no winners or losers allowed in any matches. How boring that would be as a spectator.

Just support your club without all this " idealistic " twaddle ..the last 100 years and more prove it just won't happen.
[quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Players have come and gone as long as football has been played, some sold on, some not offered renewed contracts and since Bosman virtually they move when they want. Just where have you been ? Ever confront or accuse Ferguson, Mourihno or the whole list of managers that have had the liberty of control over employment of players over this ?? Players are a marketable commodity that why fees (and some high salries) for their services. At least our owner has a background in the industry, just look to Cardiff, Hull or a number of other clubs where that tradition doesn't exist and ask your self would you really want that ? Be careful what you wish for, success is not guaranteed even with an owner of the utmost ambition irrespective of how much they throw at it. Success is but a passing feature few clubs achieve more.. think back to Arsenal last season their fans were apoplectic at Wengers direction..don't hear the same furore this season... same regime a few different players and guess what the criticism has evaporated ... and that angst was with a team that had a top 4 finish but for more years than I can remember... If you follow a football team that is the way it is, other wise the alternative is tag rugby, tennis without making the other player run and no winners or losers allowed in any matches. How boring that would be as a spectator. Just support your club without all this " idealistic " twaddle ..the last 100 years and more prove it just won't happen. Cleuso
  • Score: 13

11:58am Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph.

Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season?

I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted.

We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead.

I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.
You're right DS. The team will look very different next season. Those who think we've been building a team for next season are kidding themselves. We have 4(?) players on loan, also Foderingham and Luongo will be gone at the end of the season (IMO), Ranger is a stop-gap - and a very unreliable one at that, we have no strength in midfield (Thompson L excepted) and the defence is full of holes. The signing of Michael Smith is a welcome step in the right direction. He is typical of the sort of player we should have been looking for in the summer. Here's hoping that we really are now rebuilding.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph. Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season? I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted. We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead. I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.[/p][/quote]You're right DS. The team will look very different next season. Those who think we've been building a team for next season are kidding themselves. We have 4(?) players on loan, also Foderingham and Luongo will be gone at the end of the season (IMO), Ranger is a stop-gap - and a very unreliable one at that, we have no strength in midfield (Thompson L excepted) and the defence is full of holes. The signing of Michael Smith is a welcome step in the right direction. He is typical of the sort of player we should have been looking for in the summer. Here's hoping that we really are now rebuilding. Oi Den!
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground Cleuso
  • Score: 1

12:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether. Oi Den!
  • Score: -19

12:29pm Mon 27 Jan 14

LeGod says...

with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air.

Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing.

Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players.

I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up.

Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side.

There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in.
Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time.
with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air. Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing. Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players. I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up. Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side. There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in. Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time. LeGod
  • Score: 7

1:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bassett Hound says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph.

Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season?

I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted.

We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead.

I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.
I can't see the spurs trio will make much difference, most on this forum do not rate Hall. Mason is a sick note that can not string more than 2 games, and has only played 1 decent game for us,will possibly miss Pritchard but he will be replaced by our Portugal International winger returning from injury.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Interesting points made here, although I don't agree with the last paragraph. Lets be honest, this team is not good enough for the championship, and the fact we will lose the Spurs contingent at the end of the season strengthens these views. Where would we have been without them this season? I think Power is well aware of that, but can hardly start saying it, otherwise he will be moaned at for having no ambition, lets face who bought a season ticket this year expecting promotion, I didn't, I expected a relegation scrap as many predicted. We are still in a stage of rebuilding and I have a feeling the team will look hugely different next season, the players we are buying in now will form the core of that side. Add our own youngsters already here and I can see it being exiting times ahead. I don't think that Power is here just to make a quick buck, I think he's here for the long term but wants to get the club operating on a sensible budget. We have to walk before we can run.[/p][/quote]I can't see the spurs trio will make much difference, most on this forum do not rate Hall. Mason is a sick note that can not string more than 2 games, and has only played 1 decent game for us,will possibly miss Pritchard but he will be replaced by our Portugal International winger returning from injury. Bassett Hound
  • Score: -2

1:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

Team for next season?

Belford/Bedwell

Thomo (N) Troy Branco Bryne
Reis, Mass Thomo (L) Gladwin Kasim
Smith

subs: Barthram, Storey, Barker, Smith, Francis, Harley,

All these players are signed up for next season I think. Add a few loans (couple experienced) and a few more signings (CB's) then I don't think we will be to far away from a decent young side.
Team for next season? Belford/Bedwell Thomo (N) Troy Branco Bryne Reis, Mass Thomo (L) Gladwin Kasim Smith subs: Barthram, Storey, Barker, Smith, Francis, Harley, All these players are signed up for next season I think. Add a few loans (couple experienced) and a few more signings (CB's) then I don't think we will be to far away from a decent young side. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 5

1:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ?

Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ?

If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ? Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ? If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded. Cleuso
  • Score: 4

1:54pm Mon 27 Jan 14

London Red says...

I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period! London Red
  • Score: 27

2:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Totally agree LR, only thing I would add though is Wes has a get out clause to leave at the end of this season if we don't reach the championship, whether he uses it is another matter, but I have a funny feeling that Power will want to sell him to use the cash to improve the squad, I have no issues with that.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Totally agree LR, only thing I would add though is Wes has a get out clause to leave at the end of this season if we don't reach the championship, whether he uses it is another matter, but I have a funny feeling that Power will want to sell him to use the cash to improve the squad, I have no issues with that. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 3

2:24pm Mon 27 Jan 14

buckobassettboy says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.[/p][/quote]all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks. buckobassettboy
  • Score: -16

2:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ?

Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ?

If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.
Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ? Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ? If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it. Oi Den!
  • Score: -1

2:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

smirg kcab says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
London glad you see our away games easier in 2014.
That's what I thought about Stevenage and gills.
We look more like losing at home as we do away now in 2014.
3 very lucky home wins has kept us out of the relegation area
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]London glad you see our away games easier in 2014. That's what I thought about Stevenage and gills. We look more like losing at home as we do away now in 2014. 3 very lucky home wins has kept us out of the relegation area smirg kcab
  • Score: -10

2:36pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
avo wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
Yes he can play centreback.
To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here....
thought so, so I go back to my original point. I really can't understand why our main concern is never being addressed and just being brushed aside.
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!![/p][/quote]Yes he can play centreback.[/p][/quote]To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here....[/p][/quote]thought so, so I go back to my original point. I really can't understand why our main concern is never being addressed and just being brushed aside. Graham8181
  • Score: -12

2:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha
hahaha !!!!!
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!! Graham8181
  • Score: 4

2:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

buckobassettboy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.
So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!!
[quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.[/p][/quote]all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.[/p][/quote]So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!! Davidsyrett
  • Score: 12

2:49pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Billy hunt 65 wrote:
Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same, Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart
Please someone correct me if I am wrong but did Fitton "earn" a percentage of the Austin money ?

Does Fitton still have shares in the club or did he waive right to the money he invested ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Billy hunt 65[/bold] wrote: Jed has made a few hundred thousand now Power will do the same, Admin looming again for Town I fear .. Get Fitton back a proper chairman with the club at heart[/p][/quote]Please someone correct me if I am wrong but did Fitton "earn" a percentage of the Austin money ? Does Fitton still have shares in the club or did he waive right to the money he invested ? COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -3

3:04pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

LR, I wasn't knocking Power. I accept that we are in transition. Survival always had to be the aim this season. My point is that there have been a number of posts on here to the effect of "We have a young team that is learning. They'll be stronger next season." etc. I can't see that being the case as I think it will be a completely different team next season. If you disagree with that, tell us what you expect the starting line-up to be in August and we'll see how it turns out.
LR, I wasn't knocking Power. I accept that we are in transition. Survival always had to be the aim this season. My point is that there have been a number of posts on here to the effect of "We have a young team that is learning. They'll be stronger next season." etc. I can't see that being the case as I think it will be a completely different team next season. If you disagree with that, tell us what you expect the starting line-up to be in August and we'll see how it turns out. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

3:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha

hahaha !!!!!
And they have had a stable long time supporter throwing millions at it every year ....good example of my earlier point made to Baritone
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]And they have had a stable long time supporter throwing millions at it every year ....good example of my earlier point made to Baritone Cleuso
  • Score: 4

3:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

TelSTFC says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here.
I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!!
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here. I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!! TelSTFC
  • Score: 11

3:28pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Cleuso says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ?

Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ?

If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.
Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.
Well if it wasn't that important to you resolve on Saturday, why raise it here today ? I would have thought that its importance today would have been far less vital than when you wanted view it on Saturday.

May be its just that my logic is just awry from all rational thinking...
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ? Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ? If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.[/p][/quote]Well if it wasn't that important to you resolve on Saturday, why raise it here today ? I would have thought that its importance today would have been far less vital than when you wanted view it on Saturday. May be its just that my logic is just awry from all rational thinking... Cleuso
  • Score: -4

3:38pm Mon 27 Jan 14

bradley red 1 says...

Baritone wrote:
Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge".

It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price.

Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc.

We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found!
Yes what you say is true! i also hope mr power sells on to a owner with real investment and AMBITION.
[quote][p][bold]Baritone[/bold] wrote: Note the continuing lack of talk about "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge". It seems the main purpose of this press release is to advertise that we have many players for sale - at the right price. Do we really have a team with ambition to support or are we merely being asked to help fund a company engaged in the business of "body shopping" (i.e. buy any potential young talent, work on their skills, then either dump them or - hopefully - sell for profit?) "Bodyshopping" is a totally legitimate modus operandi for a business - if that is how they see a return on investment. What it is NOT is a business operation aimed at footballing progress in terms league position, promotion etc. We can only hope that Mr. Power will - eventually - make what he sees as sufficient return on his investment and decide to sell the club - to owners with real football ambition - if such can be found![/p][/quote]Yes what you say is true! i also hope mr power sells on to a owner with real investment and AMBITION. bradley red 1
  • Score: -8

3:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

avo says...

Graham8181 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote:
avo wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Graham8181 wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.
yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!!
Yes he can play centreback.
To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here....
thought so, so I go back to my original point. I really can't understand why our main concern is never being addressed and just being brushed aside.
In was mentioned at the weekend that he can play centre back. I can only quote the information I heard. However, if this is not the case then it does seem a strange loan.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]avo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]We have just signed a defender that can play left back or centre half,and we have Troy coming back. Perhaps he is happy with that.[/p][/quote]yeah I heard he was a left back, didn't know he was a centre back as well ?!? are you sure about that??? I don't rate Troy, if he's firing on all cylinders and is better than what I've seen before then fair enough but what I saw of him before he was terrible (please prove me wrong) however that still only leaves us with 2 decent centre backs if he does perform (him and branco) so rather than covering ourselves with lots of strikers I think we need another centre back for sure, basically ward and hall need to be dropped urgently !!![/p][/quote]Yes he can play centreback.[/p][/quote]To be fair you or I can play centre back - it's just to what degree...Interviewed on Wiltshire Radio however this lad said no he hadn't previously and no he wasn't expecting to here....[/p][/quote]thought so, so I go back to my original point. I really can't understand why our main concern is never being addressed and just being brushed aside.[/p][/quote]In was mentioned at the weekend that he can play centre back. I can only quote the information I heard. However, if this is not the case then it does seem a strange loan. avo
  • Score: -2

3:52pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

TelSTFC wrote:
London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
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I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
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As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
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I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
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He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
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Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
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We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
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Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
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That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
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With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here.
I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!!
good post indeed, very positive !! I still don't think it's a bad thing when people post negative things on here, they are only doing for the sake of the club and wanting them to do well. the positives definitely out weight the negatives this season by a long way, I guess it's just the obvious frustrations of seeing things that clearly need to be done at the club not being addressed. i.e. the defensive line. this and coopers away tactics are my only two negatives of the current champagne. I think power has done a stern job in what he has done so far and very impressed with his signings compared to that of di canios
[quote][p][bold]TelSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here. I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!![/p][/quote]good post indeed, very positive !! I still don't think it's a bad thing when people post negative things on here, they are only doing for the sake of the club and wanting them to do well. the positives definitely out weight the negatives this season by a long way, I guess it's just the obvious frustrations of seeing things that clearly need to be done at the club not being addressed. i.e. the defensive line. this and coopers away tactics are my only two negatives of the current champagne. I think power has done a stern job in what he has done so far and very impressed with his signings compared to that of di canios Graham8181
  • Score: 1

3:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

London Red says...

Davidsyrett - I'm with you that if we don't go up and Wes wants to leave and someone comes in (that is the big thing as no one has in Jan!) then fine he should go like Parkin and Cox did. Especially as we prepared for it well in advance and signed Belford up.
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All I hope is that a decent fee was part of that agreement and we don't get shafted as we seemed to have a lot in the past
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I also trust Power will invest it too as we saw with movves this year - i.e Flint money was used on Luongo
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Den - shall I give you the lotto numbers for Wed too? What a ridiculous comment to ask to pick the starting XI for next year - no one including Cooper and Power coud do that!
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Of course it is going to be different - never said it wouldn't be - all I said is we have a lot of young players tied up for a season or 2 beyond this one so the basis of the squad should be similar to this years squad
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I don't expect a massive overhaul like we have seen this year as most who will go are not really in the squad now - ie Navarro, Benson, Cox, Williams are not in our active squad so them going will not have an impact other than the financial one
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I also don't expect a fire sale of all our stars - never happened this year so why next year when we will be under less financial strain????
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Smirg - 3 lucky wins - really I thought we were miles clear of the relegation zone (14 points) as we have won 12 and drawn 4 - which the likes of Sheff U (6 wins) and Bristol (4 wins) have not!
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Yes I do see our away games as easier as we are not travelling to Brentford (top) ,Wolves (3rd), Preston (4th), Rotherham (5th), Posh (7th) MK (10th), Colchester (12th) and Bradford (13th) - which is pratically the entire top half!
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Yes we have turn up and win them and we didn't do that at Stevenage and Gills - but that doesn't mean that will 100% happen at Notts Co, Crewe, Carlisle and Tranmere for example
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Who knows what will happen in a derby at Bristol - could go anyway as form means nothing those games
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I've said for a long time that we have a chance at 6th - I do think that has now opened up to include 5th as Posh have not sacked Fergie or purchased anyone as expected
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The fact we have been so poor away and are still 8th and only 5 points off 5th shows that none below the top 4 are good enough to secure those spots until May - so why not us? We only need to add a few more points away and we could shoot up the league
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Smith has come in, Ranger is back, Tijane and Troy coming back from injury - that could be the difference?????
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We certainly have more of a chance of going up than down
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I'm sure a bookie would be willing to take your money if you think that is not the case - you could clear up on the current 100/1 odds available!
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by the way there are 14 teams above us and 3 level at 100/1 to go down and to get promoted we are 14/1
Davidsyrett - I'm with you that if we don't go up and Wes wants to leave and someone comes in (that is the big thing as no one has in Jan!) then fine he should go like Parkin and Cox did. Especially as we prepared for it well in advance and signed Belford up. . All I hope is that a decent fee was part of that agreement and we don't get shafted as we seemed to have a lot in the past . I also trust Power will invest it too as we saw with movves this year - i.e Flint money was used on Luongo . Den - shall I give you the lotto numbers for Wed too? What a ridiculous comment to ask to pick the starting XI for next year - no one including Cooper and Power coud do that! . Of course it is going to be different - never said it wouldn't be - all I said is we have a lot of young players tied up for a season or 2 beyond this one so the basis of the squad should be similar to this years squad . I don't expect a massive overhaul like we have seen this year as most who will go are not really in the squad now - ie Navarro, Benson, Cox, Williams are not in our active squad so them going will not have an impact other than the financial one . I also don't expect a fire sale of all our stars - never happened this year so why next year when we will be under less financial strain???? . Smirg - 3 lucky wins - really I thought we were miles clear of the relegation zone (14 points) as we have won 12 and drawn 4 - which the likes of Sheff U (6 wins) and Bristol (4 wins) have not! . Yes I do see our away games as easier as we are not travelling to Brentford (top) ,Wolves (3rd), Preston (4th), Rotherham (5th), Posh (7th) MK (10th), Colchester (12th) and Bradford (13th) - which is pratically the entire top half! . Yes we have turn up and win them and we didn't do that at Stevenage and Gills - but that doesn't mean that will 100% happen at Notts Co, Crewe, Carlisle and Tranmere for example . Who knows what will happen in a derby at Bristol - could go anyway as form means nothing those games . I've said for a long time that we have a chance at 6th - I do think that has now opened up to include 5th as Posh have not sacked Fergie or purchased anyone as expected . The fact we have been so poor away and are still 8th and only 5 points off 5th shows that none below the top 4 are good enough to secure those spots until May - so why not us? We only need to add a few more points away and we could shoot up the league . Smith has come in, Ranger is back, Tijane and Troy coming back from injury - that could be the difference????? . We certainly have more of a chance of going up than down . I'm sure a bookie would be willing to take your money if you think that is not the case - you could clear up on the current 100/1 odds available! . by the way there are 14 teams above us and 3 level at 100/1 to go down and to get promoted we are 14/1 London Red
  • Score: 3

3:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Graham8181 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
TelSTFC wrote:
London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
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Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
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He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
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We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
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Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
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That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
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With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here.
I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!!
good post indeed, very positive !! I still don't think it's a bad thing when people post negative things on here, they are only doing for the sake of the club and wanting them to do well. the positives definitely out weight the negatives this season by a long way, I guess it's just the obvious frustrations of seeing things that clearly need to be done at the club not being addressed. i.e. the defensive line. this and coopers away tactics are my only two negatives of the current champagne. I think power has done a stern job in what he has done so far and very impressed with his signings compared to that of di canios
mmm champagne, now that would help todays Monday blues go away
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TelSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Well said London Red this is why a lot of sensible people who read these posts like me don't hardly bother to post anymore as so much negative posting on here. I rather go back to the old forum to discuss things rather than what happens now. Shame really best post for a long time and Rome wasn't built in a day totally agree!![/p][/quote]good post indeed, very positive !! I still don't think it's a bad thing when people post negative things on here, they are only doing for the sake of the club and wanting them to do well. the positives definitely out weight the negatives this season by a long way, I guess it's just the obvious frustrations of seeing things that clearly need to be done at the club not being addressed. i.e. the defensive line. this and coopers away tactics are my only two negatives of the current champagne. I think power has done a stern job in what he has done so far and very impressed with his signings compared to that of di canios[/p][/quote]mmm champagne, now that would help todays Monday blues go away Graham8181
  • Score: -1

3:55pm Mon 27 Jan 14

fitton 93 says...

Think some people are stuck in the past having got used to Andrew Black bankrolling the club for the past few years. I will freely admit that whilst the money was around I was really excited for the future of the club and in particular during the Wray and PDC years. I know it's been said many times on this forum but the reality is that whilst Lee Power is Wealthy man he simply can not afford to run the club like it was before and personally I applaud his honesty on this front as he has openly admitted we have a budget to stick to and that we are targeting young hungry prospects that we could possibly sell on to make money. I would much rather that then try to run a team of ready made products on money we simply don't have which would result in endangering the future of the club. It may be that later down the line those who doubt Power are proved right and it is clear that his history in buissness is shady at best. However, he has so far given me no reason to doubt that the club is being taken in the right direction so until it is proved otherwise he will have my full backing.
Think some people are stuck in the past having got used to Andrew Black bankrolling the club for the past few years. I will freely admit that whilst the money was around I was really excited for the future of the club and in particular during the Wray and PDC years. I know it's been said many times on this forum but the reality is that whilst Lee Power is Wealthy man he simply can not afford to run the club like it was before and personally I applaud his honesty on this front as he has openly admitted we have a budget to stick to and that we are targeting young hungry prospects that we could possibly sell on to make money. I would much rather that then try to run a team of ready made products on money we simply don't have which would result in endangering the future of the club. It may be that later down the line those who doubt Power are proved right and it is clear that his history in buissness is shady at best. However, he has so far given me no reason to doubt that the club is being taken in the right direction so until it is proved otherwise he will have my full backing. fitton 93
  • Score: 7

4:38pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

fitton 93 wrote:
Think some people are stuck in the past having got used to Andrew Black bankrolling the club for the past few years. I will freely admit that whilst the money was around I was really excited for the future of the club and in particular during the Wray and PDC years. I know it's been said many times on this forum but the reality is that whilst Lee Power is Wealthy man he simply can not afford to run the club like it was before and personally I applaud his honesty on this front as he has openly admitted we have a budget to stick to and that we are targeting young hungry prospects that we could possibly sell on to make money. I would much rather that then try to run a team of ready made products on money we simply don't have which would result in endangering the future of the club. It may be that later down the line those who doubt Power are proved right and it is clear that his history in buissness is shady at best. However, he has so far given me no reason to doubt that the club is being taken in the right direction so until it is proved otherwise he will have my full backing.
Well said, totally agree with you.

Now, can you answer my questions above about Austin money and shares :-)

London Red, why is everyone obsessed with thinking Wes will move on. Firstly a team has to have a vacancy and secondly I don't necessarily see Wes moving to provide cover unless he does so for the money.

He dropped two leagues when he joined and recently extended his contract with us which suggests he is happy because he is playing regular. Decent goalkeepers are often retained by clubs for far longer periods than players in any other position and IMO only the exceptional attract bids when in contract. Wes is good but not exceptional (yet) so might be around for a lot longer than most anticipate

COYMR.
[quote][p][bold]fitton 93[/bold] wrote: Think some people are stuck in the past having got used to Andrew Black bankrolling the club for the past few years. I will freely admit that whilst the money was around I was really excited for the future of the club and in particular during the Wray and PDC years. I know it's been said many times on this forum but the reality is that whilst Lee Power is Wealthy man he simply can not afford to run the club like it was before and personally I applaud his honesty on this front as he has openly admitted we have a budget to stick to and that we are targeting young hungry prospects that we could possibly sell on to make money. I would much rather that then try to run a team of ready made products on money we simply don't have which would result in endangering the future of the club. It may be that later down the line those who doubt Power are proved right and it is clear that his history in buissness is shady at best. However, he has so far given me no reason to doubt that the club is being taken in the right direction so until it is proved otherwise he will have my full backing.[/p][/quote]Well said, totally agree with you. Now, can you answer my questions above about Austin money and shares :-) London Red, why is everyone obsessed with thinking Wes will move on. Firstly a team has to have a vacancy and secondly I don't necessarily see Wes moving to provide cover unless he does so for the money. He dropped two leagues when he joined and recently extended his contract with us which suggests he is happy because he is playing regular. Decent goalkeepers are often retained by clubs for far longer periods than players in any other position and IMO only the exceptional attract bids when in contract. Wes is good but not exceptional (yet) so might be around for a lot longer than most anticipate COYMR. Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

5:06pm Mon 27 Jan 14

fitton 93 says...

Think Fitton did get a percentage of Austin's transfer fee for finding him though I might be wrong about that. As I understand it when Black wanted out both Fitton and Wray vetoed his decision but as majority share holder he had the final say putting them in a position where it was allow a sale or see their stake become worthless as the club would have been plunged into admin or worse if not for Jed's intervention
Think Fitton did get a percentage of Austin's transfer fee for finding him though I might be wrong about that. As I understand it when Black wanted out both Fitton and Wray vetoed his decision but as majority share holder he had the final say putting them in a position where it was allow a sale or see their stake become worthless as the club would have been plunged into admin or worse if not for Jed's intervention fitton 93
  • Score: 0

5:15pm Mon 27 Jan 14

London Red says...

Oxon - I did say that someone had to come in for him and that was the big thing
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Granted "keepers don't move in Jan" is spouted - but no one moved for him either in Aug or now - so why all of a sudden will they 100% move for him next Aug - especially as lots on here think he has gone backwards!
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My comment about if he does go was more I see him now like Parkin and Cox who did their "time" and moved on with most fans blessing - Wes would get that from me come the summer
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Fitton93 - the ironic thing is that those calling for Fitton to return don't actually see his way was EXACTLY how Power wants to do things now!
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Fitton wanted to be self sufficient and develop young talent to make profit to reinvest in more young talent - which hopefully would raise the standard as a whole - thus he invested in Cox, Caddis, Ferry, Austin, Ritchie and Flint - lets not forget Cox paid for Caddis and Ferry etc!
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Power looks to be doing the same here with Byrne, Luongo coming after Caddias and Flint were sold and now he has splashed out on Smith!
Oxon - I did say that someone had to come in for him and that was the big thing . Granted "keepers don't move in Jan" is spouted - but no one moved for him either in Aug or now - so why all of a sudden will they 100% move for him next Aug - especially as lots on here think he has gone backwards! . My comment about if he does go was more I see him now like Parkin and Cox who did their "time" and moved on with most fans blessing - Wes would get that from me come the summer . Fitton93 - the ironic thing is that those calling for Fitton to return don't actually see his way was EXACTLY how Power wants to do things now! . Fitton wanted to be self sufficient and develop young talent to make profit to reinvest in more young talent - which hopefully would raise the standard as a whole - thus he invested in Cox, Caddis, Ferry, Austin, Ritchie and Flint - lets not forget Cox paid for Caddis and Ferry etc! . Power looks to be doing the same here with Byrne, Luongo coming after Caddias and Flint were sold and now he has splashed out on Smith! London Red
  • Score: 4

5:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

buckobassettboy says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
buckobassettboy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.
So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!!
There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield?
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.[/p][/quote]all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.[/p][/quote]So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!![/p][/quote]There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield? buckobassettboy
  • Score: -1

5:29pm Mon 27 Jan 14

fitton 93 says...

Seems a sensible way of doing thing to me might mean inconsistent performances on the pitch but will make the clubs finances a lot healthier. Always thought if Fitton had stayed chairman and stuck to his model
Then black might have stayed as he would of had to put less money in and players like Pritchard might of actually been a reality to buy.
Seems a sensible way of doing thing to me might mean inconsistent performances on the pitch but will make the clubs finances a lot healthier. Always thought if Fitton had stayed chairman and stuck to his model Then black might have stayed as he would of had to put less money in and players like Pritchard might of actually been a reality to buy. fitton 93
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ?

Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ?

If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.
Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.
Well if it wasn't that important to you resolve on Saturday, why raise it here today ? I would have thought that its importance today would have been far less vital than when you wanted view it on Saturday.

May be its just that my logic is just awry from all rational thinking...
There were many people wondering why the screens weren't working. Nobody was particularly excited about it and I didn't see anyone rushing to find out the reason - but I think they would all have been interested to know. I didn't say it was important to me - either today or on Saturday - and I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition...
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ? Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ? If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.[/p][/quote]Well if it wasn't that important to you resolve on Saturday, why raise it here today ? I would have thought that its importance today would have been far less vital than when you wanted view it on Saturday. May be its just that my logic is just awry from all rational thinking...[/p][/quote]There were many people wondering why the screens weren't working. Nobody was particularly excited about it and I didn't see anyone rushing to find out the reason - but I think they would all have been interested to know. I didn't say it was important to me - either today or on Saturday - and I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition... Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

5:47pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

LR, I agree with much of what you say but there's no getting away from the fact that many posters on here have said this is a team for the future - comparing it with Bert Head's babes etc, suggesting it's a group that will stay together. In my view that is not going to happen, partly because some will not want to be here and partly because some are not good enough. I'm not slating Power and I'm not pessimistic about the medium term. In fact I think Power has probably at last begun the rebuilding. I'm not sure that all the players you quote are anything to shout about though - but at least we are moving in the right direction.
LR, I agree with much of what you say but there's no getting away from the fact that many posters on here have said this is a team for the future - comparing it with Bert Head's babes etc, suggesting it's a group that will stay together. In my view that is not going to happen, partly because some will not want to be here and partly because some are not good enough. I'm not slating Power and I'm not pessimistic about the medium term. In fact I think Power has probably at last begun the rebuilding. I'm not sure that all the players you quote are anything to shout about though - but at least we are moving in the right direction. Oi Den!
  • Score: -3

5:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

LeGod wrote:
with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air.

Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing.

Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players.

I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up.

Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side.

There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in.
Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time.
Good post - several good points - many of which I have said myself in previous posts
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air. Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing. Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players. I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up. Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side. There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in. Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time.[/p][/quote]Good post - several good points - many of which I have said myself in previous posts lifelong red
  • Score: -3

5:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

lifelong red says...

LeGod wrote:
with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air.

Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing.

Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players.

I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up.

Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side.

There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in.
Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time.
Good post - several good points - many of which I have said myself in previous posts
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: with regard to the Spurs contingent Hall has been disappointing and to me is too nice as a centre back, he marks his opponent too tight alot of the time and gets turned easily and also is not good enough in the air. Mason although he has no doubt got talent and just wondering whether he is fully fit but in a number of games he has been disappointing. Pritchard has definetly been the pick on what he has done this season and i can understand a number of championship clubs looking at him and worringly for us if he goes it leaves us with no creative players. I feel there will be a big clear out on the summer i think alot of us said in the nice weather we will be ok and as the winter sets in it will determine how this side will stack up. Again i have said it several times we have no spine in the team and every successful side needs one. If we got the Centre back we needed (could this be Troy) and a tough no nonsense midfield player it could make a masive difference to this side. There are alot of players to clear out that have got no future at the club and they are obviously going to run their contracts down. Powere said he had money for the season and i can see the likes of a couple of players being sold in the summer to keep us going unless some more investment comes in. Fair play to power though he has put his hand in his pocket and you cant fault him for his intentions and i dont get the knockers of him all the time.[/p][/quote]Good post - several good points - many of which I have said myself in previous posts lifelong red
  • Score: -4

5:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

candlestrobe says...

Quite obviously, we should be top of the league, have a bidding war going on from potential investors who are willing to pay ridiculous wages or transfer fees for players who rarely feature in the squad because it is just too good that we cannot be beaten. We also should have a defence who haven't let a goal in all season and a manager who fans and players have a man-crush on.

OK, OK, This it's pretty unrealistic to expect this immediately, but surely this will happen by the end of the season?
Quite obviously, we should be top of the league, have a bidding war going on from potential investors who are willing to pay ridiculous wages or transfer fees for players who rarely feature in the squad because it is just too good that we cannot be beaten. We also should have a defence who haven't let a goal in all season and a manager who fans and players have a man-crush on. OK, OK, This it's pretty unrealistic to expect this immediately, but surely this will happen by the end of the season? candlestrobe
  • Score: -4

6:03pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

buckobassettboy wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
buckobassettboy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.
So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!!
There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield?
How about losing to Tooting and Mitcham, Dagenham when non-league. These results happen. We were poor at Macclesfield but why not recognise that we lost at home to them the year before and were probably equally bad.

Aren't you are making light of this season by focusing on one result and poor away form but omit to mention the 5 goals against Crewe and Port Vale, the result at QPR

You may not like Lee or Mark or Jed but unless you can produce the funds to replace them you are stuck with them for the time being.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.[/p][/quote]all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.[/p][/quote]So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!![/p][/quote]There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield?[/p][/quote]How about losing to Tooting and Mitcham, Dagenham when non-league. These results happen. We were poor at Macclesfield but why not recognise that we lost at home to them the year before and were probably equally bad. Aren't you are making light of this season by focusing on one result and poor away form but omit to mention the 5 goals against Crewe and Port Vale, the result at QPR You may not like Lee or Mark or Jed but unless you can produce the funds to replace them you are stuck with them for the time being. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 3

6:11pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oi Den! says...

Oxon, whether or not anyone likes Mr McCrory, I think he's consigned to STFC history now.
Oxon, whether or not anyone likes Mr McCrory, I think he's consigned to STFC history now. Oi Den!
  • Score: -2

6:29pm Mon 27 Jan 14

red white says...

Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG?

There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day.
Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG? There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day. red white
  • Score: -3

6:30pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Davidsyrett says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
buckobassettboy wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
buckobassettboy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.
all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.
So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!!
There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield?
How about losing to Tooting and Mitcham, Dagenham when non-league. These results happen. We were poor at Macclesfield but why not recognise that we lost at home to them the year before and were probably equally bad.

Aren't you are making light of this season by focusing on one result and poor away form but omit to mention the 5 goals against Crewe and Port Vale, the result at QPR

You may not like Lee or Mark or Jed but unless you can produce the funds to replace them you are stuck with them for the time being.

COYMR
Bucko.. We have spent the vast majority of our history in the 3rd tier of English football. You honestly think that after 1 year of Jed/Power we should miraculously turn into a championship/premier
ship outfit? We've gone from near administration to a club pretty much able to balance it's books and an owner prepared to invest money into the club, thats not a bad start. Perhaps if people like you actually started to get behind the board we might actually in a few years start realising your dreams. For goodness sake give them some time.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckobassettboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I see I've already got a minus for asking a question! That gave me a chuckle.[/p][/quote]all the minus marks are from bit part supporters and have never witnessed better times at the County Ground-so have nothing to compare current offerings with.Many are deluded and are unable to read between the lines,view everything with rose tinted spectacles and the minute something controversial is posted(normally with an element of truth) they become all pious because it doesn't fit with their way of thinking.Carry on the posting sir and forget the minus marks.[/p][/quote]So your saying anyone who is optimistic for the future is a bit part supporter?? Having seen good times and also very bad times I wonder where exactly you place are current regime? Since Jed/Power took over what have the bad times been out of interest? Play-offs last season, 8th this season, over the past 40 years how many times have we been higher?? 1 premiership season and a few Championship seasons!![/p][/quote]There you are-written by your own hand.Making light of the Premiership season and Championship season.What's next-The league Cup Final was a fluke by a third rate 3rd Div side.?How can you can compare our current team,management and league status with the legends of 69,the premiership side who played out one of the best games at Wembley,robbed of promotion to the Premiership and dumped 3 leagues and clawed their way back and numerous giant-killing cup games.Jed and Power?Just tell me exactly what is good about a 4-0 thumping by Macclesfield?[/p][/quote]How about losing to Tooting and Mitcham, Dagenham when non-league. These results happen. We were poor at Macclesfield but why not recognise that we lost at home to them the year before and were probably equally bad. Aren't you are making light of this season by focusing on one result and poor away form but omit to mention the 5 goals against Crewe and Port Vale, the result at QPR You may not like Lee or Mark or Jed but unless you can produce the funds to replace them you are stuck with them for the time being. COYMR[/p][/quote]Bucko.. We have spent the vast majority of our history in the 3rd tier of English football. You honestly think that after 1 year of Jed/Power we should miraculously turn into a championship/premier ship outfit? We've gone from near administration to a club pretty much able to balance it's books and an owner prepared to invest money into the club, thats not a bad start. Perhaps if people like you actually started to get behind the board we might actually in a few years start realising your dreams. For goodness sake give them some time. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

MidlandRobin says...

What is wrong with you? Do you have any SENSE, at all..? Do you have any idea how to run a football team?

Everyday you do something stupider then you did, the day before. And I think 'there's no possible way he can, top that'. But what do you, you find a way **** it, to top it!

You are a professional idiot.

- Stanley Hudson.
What is wrong with you? Do you have any SENSE, at all..? Do you have any idea how to run a football team? Everyday you do something stupider then you did, the day before. And I think 'there's no possible way he can, top that'. But what do you, you find a way **** it, to top it! You are a professional idiot. - Stanley Hudson. MidlandRobin
  • Score: 4

6:38pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
He can be a touch lazy at times and I wouldn't compare him to Ranger who is a far better and more effective player.

That said, is goals return has been good and I would be inclined to keep m as back up. Anyone who saw Saturdays performance would probably pay agree that going forward isn't the problem and that we need to look at CB options, given Branco is rookie, Hall is injured, Archibald Henville is a sick note and Ward looks woefully out of form.
[quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]He can be a touch lazy at times and I wouldn't compare him to Ranger who is a far better and more effective player. That said, is goals return has been good and I would be inclined to keep m as back up. Anyone who saw Saturdays performance would probably pay agree that going forward isn't the problem and that we need to look at CB options, given Branco is rookie, Hall is injured, Archibald Henville is a sick note and Ward looks woefully out of form. Pewsham Red
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

old town robin wrote:
Haydonender wrote:
Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him.

If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.
i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either.

If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.
Say that again??
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Haydonender[/bold] wrote: Bit strange as although he can look a little uninterested at times and blow hot and cold like Ranger, I think he's a decent player at this level. It almost sounds like they are saying he has no chance of earning a new contract with us. He can't be on big money as was signed under Jed and if there has been no falling out then it seems like they just don't rate him. If he does go out on loan, we need to make sure we have a recall option in case Ranger is found guilty.[/p][/quote]i agree with you it does sound although there is no intention to offer him a new contract and therefore the sooner he finds another club that can offer him some future security, the better it will be for him. I also agree with others a bit of a surprise decision, as he did start off well, but has faded of late with the illness and injuries have obviously effected him. probably didn't help his cause travelling from London every day either. If there are players being offered on loan, when are they going to make a decision on navarro who will NEVER wear the shirt again.[/p][/quote]Say that again?? Pewsham Red
  • Score: -1

6:42pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

Graham8181 wrote:
AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now
For goodness sake. Most of us are glad we have a club and look like staying up, which many of us didn't think would be the case a few months back. What we don't need is more upheaval.

I don't think we are good enough for the play offs and happy that we are top half, especially as our away form is so shocking.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: AND STILL NO MENTION OF A NEW DEFENDER TO REPLACE WARD AND HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! are this club actually serious about getting into playoffs??? if we don't get in to them, Cooper HAS to go at the end of the season alone for not bringing or suggesting / pushing to bring in a defender. Sick and tired of nothing happening with this. for me we are ok up front now[/p][/quote]For goodness sake. Most of us are glad we have a club and look like staying up, which many of us didn't think would be the case a few months back. What we don't need is more upheaval. I don't think we are good enough for the play offs and happy that we are top half, especially as our away form is so shocking. Pewsham Red
  • Score: 4

6:47pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.
Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground
I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason.

My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.
Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ?

Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ?

If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.
Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.
Funny you should mention the TV's Den, as the ones in the DR were, bizarrely, on their side so you had to crick your neck to see the scores. Very odd.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Off topic, anyone know why the TV screens weren't working in the Arkells Stand on Saturday? I imagine that could cause complications with advertisers who've paid the club to promote their businesses on those screens.[/p][/quote]Asking the football club seems to be the simplest option to find out..they were on else where in the ground[/p][/quote]I don't care what the "simplest option" is. I chose to ask my fellow supporters if any of them knew the reason. My experience of asking questions of the football club over the last year is that it is indeed a very simple process. Getting an answer is another matter altogether.[/p][/quote]Really Den? Given some of the stuff written here and you would then choose to believe that ? Anything legit and the real reason posted by a fan will have come in the first place from the club anyway. Why didn't you ask on Saturday ? If your post was really intended, above all, to be confrontational, then you certainly have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Cleuso, it was not intended to be confrontational at all. I just asked a question. I thought there was a good chance someone would have known the answer. One possibility is technical failure. Another is some problem with the supplier. I don't suggest either is any more likely than the other and I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder what the cause was. You'll have to excuse me for not wanting wander around the County Ground seeking an answer on Saturday. It was hardly that important. It's you who seems to want to create a confrontation out of it.[/p][/quote]Funny you should mention the TV's Den, as the ones in the DR were, bizarrely, on their side so you had to crick your neck to see the scores. Very odd. Pewsham Red
  • Score: -1

6:51pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Pewsham Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
LR, I agree with much of what you say but there's no getting away from the fact that many posters on here have said this is a team for the future - comparing it with Bert Head's babes etc, suggesting it's a group that will stay together. In my view that is not going to happen, partly because some will not want to be here and partly because some are not good enough. I'm not slating Power and I'm not pessimistic about the medium term. In fact I think Power has probably at last begun the rebuilding. I'm not sure that all the players you quote are anything to shout about though - but at least we are moving in the right direction.
Agreed Den. Let's be realistic, no-one in the lower leagues builds teams any more. If they unearth a gem they'll be snapped up by a better club and if we sign a dud we move them on. Rarely does a small club offer any more than a two year contract so as to keep options open.

Even teams that could afford to spend, like Bristol City, never built a team that stayed together longer than a season.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: LR, I agree with much of what you say but there's no getting away from the fact that many posters on here have said this is a team for the future - comparing it with Bert Head's babes etc, suggesting it's a group that will stay together. In my view that is not going to happen, partly because some will not want to be here and partly because some are not good enough. I'm not slating Power and I'm not pessimistic about the medium term. In fact I think Power has probably at last begun the rebuilding. I'm not sure that all the players you quote are anything to shout about though - but at least we are moving in the right direction.[/p][/quote]Agreed Den. Let's be realistic, no-one in the lower leagues builds teams any more. If they unearth a gem they'll be snapped up by a better club and if we sign a dud we move them on. Rarely does a small club offer any more than a two year contract so as to keep options open. Even teams that could afford to spend, like Bristol City, never built a team that stayed together longer than a season. Pewsham Red
  • Score: 2

6:53pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Swindonian63 says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Excellent comment.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Excellent comment. Swindonian63
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Swindonian63 says...

red white wrote:
Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG?

There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day.
You can see them on YouTube...just put Swindon Town v Shrewsbury Town highlights January 2014 in the search.
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG? There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day.[/p][/quote]You can see them on YouTube...just put Swindon Town v Shrewsbury Town highlights January 2014 in the search. Swindonian63
  • Score: 0

7:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

red white says...

Swindonian63 wrote:
red white wrote:
Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG?

There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day.
You can see them on YouTube...just put Swindon Town v Shrewsbury Town highlights January 2014 in the search.
Ha ha ha! Just seen it, thanks tried earlier (6am) great to see Smitho in there,christ he's tall!

Loved Niles nod in too.

Yooouu Reds!
[quote][p][bold]Swindonian63[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: Anyone know how we can see the goals from Saturday at the CG? There was no FLS this weekend due to the FA cup and the BBC don't run it if there are less than 7 championship fixtures on the day.[/p][/quote]You can see them on YouTube...just put Swindon Town v Shrewsbury Town highlights January 2014 in the search.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha! Just seen it, thanks tried earlier (6am) great to see Smitho in there,christ he's tall! Loved Niles nod in too. Yooouu Reds! red white
  • Score: 0

8:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha

hahaha !!!!!
Would you believe we have lost more games than City?
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]Would you believe we have lost more games than City? Brainy_G93
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Mon 27 Jan 14

LydiardRED67 says...

As dreadfull as it was on Saturday, and the defending at times was woeful, we are by no means the worst in the league by some distance. Couple that with a quite impressive scoring record and we are not that bad.

For me, league one is becoming a tricky league to predict. Teams that come down from the championship drop right through, teams such as Leyton Orient come from seemingly nowhere and it is only the likes of Brentford who have been there or there abouts and who have built year on year.

We have rebuilt this team three times now, and it shows. We have been through more takeovers and quarrels in the the boardroom than is healthy for a football club and thankfully we appear to be on the way back.

For my part, the loans from Spurs were only ever a quick fix for this year to balance the books and keep us in the division. I think as we have maintained the top 10 position and are still in contention for a play off place has encouraged Power to invest in some permanent signings. Next season I think there will be less loans, we will still have them but they will maybe add strength, rather than be relied upon.

That is my hope anyway.
As dreadfull as it was on Saturday, and the defending at times was woeful, we are by no means the worst in the league by some distance. Couple that with a quite impressive scoring record and we are not that bad. For me, league one is becoming a tricky league to predict. Teams that come down from the championship drop right through, teams such as Leyton Orient come from seemingly nowhere and it is only the likes of Brentford who have been there or there abouts and who have built year on year. We have rebuilt this team three times now, and it shows. We have been through more takeovers and quarrels in the the boardroom than is healthy for a football club and thankfully we appear to be on the way back. For my part, the loans from Spurs were only ever a quick fix for this year to balance the books and keep us in the division. I think as we have maintained the top 10 position and are still in contention for a play off place has encouraged Power to invest in some permanent signings. Next season I think there will be less loans, we will still have them but they will maybe add strength, rather than be relied upon. That is my hope anyway. LydiardRED67
  • Score: 2

9:29pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha


hahaha !!!!!
Would you believe we have lost more games than City?
Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City !

Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City !

Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops...

...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought !

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]Would you believe we have lost more games than City?[/p][/quote]Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City ! Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City ! Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops... ...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought ! COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: -1

9:47pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha



hahaha !!!!!
Would you believe we have lost more games than City?
Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City !

Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City !

Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops...

...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought !

COYMR
Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]Would you believe we have lost more games than City?[/p][/quote]Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City ! Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City ! Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops... ...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man. Brainy_G93
  • Score: 3

10:24pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha




hahaha !!!!!
Would you believe we have lost more games than City?
Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City !

Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City !

Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops...

...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought !

COYMR
Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man.
Sorry G93, the Grumpy old man bit was not aimed at you in particular. I know we are a nation of moaners but this board is becoming progressively more negative. We lose and you can guarantee over 100 posts by 8pm. Win and we may get 30 !!!

Your comment was totally negative to read. We played carp on Saturday but we won, we were lucky but we still get masses of negative comments. We are a poor side etc but by my reckoning at the moment we are 8th best in the league.

Many thought we would struggle and perhaps we may later but at the moment we are not so why aren't we thinking positively about that ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]Would you believe we have lost more games than City?[/p][/quote]Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City ! Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City ! Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops... ...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man.[/p][/quote]Sorry G93, the Grumpy old man bit was not aimed at you in particular. I know we are a nation of moaners but this board is becoming progressively more negative. We lose and you can guarantee over 100 posts by 8pm. Win and we may get 30 !!! Your comment was totally negative to read. We played carp on Saturday but we won, we were lucky but we still get masses of negative comments. We are a poor side etc but by my reckoning at the moment we are 8th best in the league. Many thought we would struggle and perhaps we may later but at the moment we are not so why aren't we thinking positively about that ? COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

11:02pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, whether or not anyone likes Mr McCrory, I think he's consigned to STFC history now.
You are right Den and we should look forward. We have stability of sorts and a team that are more than holding their own at the moment.

We have a young squad that should improve and it would be nice to keep most of them for next season. I know teams usually sell the best but that to an extent is nature of football sadly. It is not just in the lower leagues as teams such as Everton have to sell to survive.

Someone mentioned that lower league teams are no longer built but I think we should look at Orient, Walsall and Brentford who are not massive clubs but have kept a core and built on it despite having to sell.

Apologies again to G93, I read the ? as an exclamation mark.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Oxon, whether or not anyone likes Mr McCrory, I think he's consigned to STFC history now.[/p][/quote]You are right Den and we should look forward. We have stability of sorts and a team that are more than holding their own at the moment. We have a young squad that should improve and it would be nice to keep most of them for next season. I know teams usually sell the best but that to an extent is nature of football sadly. It is not just in the lower leagues as teams such as Everton have to sell to survive. Someone mentioned that lower league teams are no longer built but I think we should look at Orient, Walsall and Brentford who are not massive clubs but have kept a core and built on it despite having to sell. Apologies again to G93, I read the ? as an exclamation mark. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 1

12:53am Tue 28 Jan 14

The Jockster says...

Oxon a couple of your posts recently are very scathing - you seem to have a problem with players being given "tongue - in - cheek" nicknames & you constantly refer to posters whose take on things at the CG differs to yours as negative.
Surely it's not rocket science - if we get beat more people are unhappy about the performance and want to say so. Particularly those of us like me who've witnessed some pretty abject away performances and again tomorrow we will be travelling with more trepidation than anticipation because we know Walsall are a good side and our away form is cr@p. Conversely of course a win often means that some don't feel the need to post because they're happy with what they've seen.
Is it really worth getting worked up over other's opinion on an open forum? I don't think so.
Oxon a couple of your posts recently are very scathing - you seem to have a problem with players being given "tongue - in - cheek" nicknames & you constantly refer to posters whose take on things at the CG differs to yours as negative. Surely it's not rocket science - if we get beat more people are unhappy about the performance and want to say so. Particularly those of us like me who've witnessed some pretty abject away performances and again tomorrow we will be travelling with more trepidation than anticipation because we know Walsall are a good side and our away form is cr@p. Conversely of course a win often means that some don't feel the need to post because they're happy with what they've seen. Is it really worth getting worked up over other's opinion on an open forum? I don't think so. The Jockster
  • Score: 0

2:35am Tue 28 Jan 14

Wilesy says...

London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
Really good post LR, certainly the signings have been very good on the whole, and the rebuilding process is clearly a 2 year not 1 year process. I've said over recent weeks id like more steel and a bit of experience to go with the promising youngsters though, and I'm fed up travelling distance and spending the readies in watching performances like Stevenage away the other week, but accept we are a work in progress.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]Really good post LR, certainly the signings have been very good on the whole, and the rebuilding process is clearly a 2 year not 1 year process. I've said over recent weeks id like more steel and a bit of experience to go with the promising youngsters though, and I'm fed up travelling distance and spending the readies in watching performances like Stevenage away the other week, but accept we are a work in progress. Wilesy
  • Score: 1

7:24am Tue 28 Jan 14

Brainy_G93 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Brainy_G93 wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha





hahaha !!!!!
Would you believe we have lost more games than City?
Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City !

Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City !

Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops...

...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought !

COYMR
Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man.
Sorry G93, the Grumpy old man bit was not aimed at you in particular. I know we are a nation of moaners but this board is becoming progressively more negative. We lose and you can guarantee over 100 posts by 8pm. Win and we may get 30 !!!

Your comment was totally negative to read. We played carp on Saturday but we won, we were lucky but we still get masses of negative comments. We are a poor side etc but by my reckoning at the moment we are 8th best in the league.

Many thought we would struggle and perhaps we may later but at the moment we are not so why aren't we thinking positively about that ?

COYMR
That's okay, Oxon. Your comment just wound me up a bit because, like you, I find there are far too many negative comments on here and it wasn't my intention to add to these. I was just sharing a fact that I found hard to believe. Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brainy_G93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: on another note LOOK WHERE BRISTOL SHITY ARE STILL SITTING IN THE TABLE hahahahahahahahahaha hahaha !!!!![/p][/quote]Would you believe we have lost more games than City?[/p][/quote]Would you believe, I know it is depressing, but we have won more games than City ! Any other negatives ? We get fewer fans than City ? We spend less money than City ! We have a smaller debt than City ! Swindon fans are definitely Top of the Pops... ...find a negative and have a pop. The next series of Grumpy Old Men is being filmed at the next home game. Perhaps if we find a negative about a negative it will become a positive, now there's a thought ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Oh shut up you boring old ****. I wasn't having a pop nor am I a grumpy old man.[/p][/quote]Sorry G93, the Grumpy old man bit was not aimed at you in particular. I know we are a nation of moaners but this board is becoming progressively more negative. We lose and you can guarantee over 100 posts by 8pm. Win and we may get 30 !!! Your comment was totally negative to read. We played carp on Saturday but we won, we were lucky but we still get masses of negative comments. We are a poor side etc but by my reckoning at the moment we are 8th best in the league. Many thought we would struggle and perhaps we may later but at the moment we are not so why aren't we thinking positively about that ? COYMR[/p][/quote]That's okay, Oxon. Your comment just wound me up a bit because, like you, I find there are far too many negative comments on here and it wasn't my intention to add to these. I was just sharing a fact that I found hard to believe. Cheers. Brainy_G93
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11:25am Tue 28 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
Oxon a couple of your posts recently are very scathing - you seem to have a problem with players being given "tongue - in - cheek" nicknames & you constantly refer to posters whose take on things at the CG differs to yours as negative. Surely it's not rocket science - if we get beat more people are unhappy about the performance and want to say so. Particularly those of us like me who've witnessed some pretty abject away performances and again tomorrow we will be travelling with more trepidation than anticipation because we know Walsall are a good side and our away form is cr@p. Conversely of course a win often means that some don't feel the need to post because they're happy with what they've seen. Is it really worth getting worked up over other's opinion on an open forum? I don't think so.
Hi Jocelyn,

"tongue in cheek" depends whether the recipient is happy to be known by that name or not. Pretty sure our strikers from 3 seasons ago would have rejoiced in the names they were called on here.

So you agree, those that don't post when we win are moaners that only ever find fault :-)

There are posters on here that cannot get to games for financial or distance reasons and I suspect they would like to read the views from a variety of fans that were at the match. They tend to get that variety now, but only when we lose.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Oxon a couple of your posts recently are very scathing - you seem to have a problem with players being given "tongue - in - cheek" nicknames & you constantly refer to posters whose take on things at the CG differs to yours as negative. Surely it's not rocket science - if we get beat more people are unhappy about the performance and want to say so. Particularly those of us like me who've witnessed some pretty abject away performances and again tomorrow we will be travelling with more trepidation than anticipation because we know Walsall are a good side and our away form is cr@p. Conversely of course a win often means that some don't feel the need to post because they're happy with what they've seen. Is it really worth getting worked up over other's opinion on an open forum? I don't think so.[/p][/quote]Hi Jocelyn, "tongue in cheek" depends whether the recipient is happy to be known by that name or not. Pretty sure our strikers from 3 seasons ago would have rejoiced in the names they were called on here. So you agree, those that don't post when we win are moaners that only ever find fault :-) There are posters on here that cannot get to games for financial or distance reasons and I suspect they would like to read the views from a variety of fans that were at the match. They tend to get that variety now, but only when we lose. COYMR Oxon-Red
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Swindon1984 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
London Red wrote:
I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life!
.
Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying!
.
He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years!
.
He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal
.
Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension
.
Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan.
.
Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity
.
Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him
.
Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back!
.
Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin
.
Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too!
.
Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while!
.
Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option
.
If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is!
.
Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him!
.
Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land!
.
I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have
.
As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some!
.
I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532!
.
He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing?
.
Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard!
.
We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan!
.
Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford
.
That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit!
.
With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period!
London glad you see our away games easier in 2014.
That's what I thought about Stevenage and gills.
We look more like losing at home as we do away now in 2014.
3 very lucky home wins has kept us out of the relegation area
Not sure why this got so much negative feedback - I agree with a lot of what LR said and his enthusiasm is, as always, infectious, however whether the away games are easier on paper is irrelevant - we have a proven recent track record of losing away to very poor teams i.e. ones looking at relegation, and so "easier" away games still don't fill me with joy. I'd argue we've played better at "harder" away games (Wolves, Rotherham etc) than "easier" ones (Stevenage, Sheffield United...)

I'm fairly optimistic in general but you can't polish a turd and trying to be optimistic about our abysmal away form by saying we have "easier" sides to play against is ludicrous - the problem isn't the opposition, it's us. That we have hard games to play at home as well as dealing with a poor away record could be cause for concern rather than optimism.

That said we've been in far worse positions, we're probably ahead of all realistic expectations for this season and I can't knock Power for what he's done so far. Just trying to be realistic - I'm conscious people seem to be tarred with the rose tinted/head in the sand or moaning/negative brush, and both sides are getting a bit personal. So just call me an optimistic realist! Or a ****, I don't care ;-)
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't get where some people form their ideas from because normally it isn't from real life! . Comments about when have we ever heard about not "improving the squad", "building for the future" or "strengthening for a play off challenge" - that is exactly what Power HAS been saying! . He clearly came in said he is not here to flip it and wants to take us to the Championship and then look at the Premiership in the next 5 years! . He has signed up Wes (The best keeper in L1) up on a 3 year deal . Tied N.Thompson (one of best RBs in L1) down to a 2 year extension . Paid £100k+ for Byrne an exciting young prospect who we knew about after a successful loan. . Spent £400k on Luongo - who for me could be a future captain at our club and like Byrne was known entity . Spent £100k+ on Smith - a lad known to our manager, had a decent sesaon to date on loan and had 10 other clubs including MK and Coventry looking at him . Sign Tijane - a real hot prospect who if it was not for visa issues would have signed for Chelsea for EUR 1m a few years back! . Widened our scouting network and picked up some potential gems in Branco and Kasim - and other potentials who may have "slipped through the net" ie Gladwin . Plus has been snapping up youngsters released from Premiership sides to add a potentially bit of qulaity - i.e. Belford, Ranger, Smith, Bathram and potentially Ngoo too! . Used his contacts to land us some quality loanees - with Pritchard in particular being better than we have seen for a while! . Also gave contracts to the most home grown players we have had for a long time - which depending on certain arguements is good or bad - i.e we want local lads playing as it means something to them ala Thompson and Thompson or its simply the cheap option . If all of the above is not laying down the foundations for a long term development of a squad I don't know what is! . Plus he signed up a really highly rated coach to assist us in Williams - who Poyet wanted to take to Sunderland with him! . Yes we are not finished - but if any one thought it could be turned around in under 12 months with the legacy we were left with clearly lives in cloud cookoo land! . I'm certain that once the likes of Navarro (who will be released in the summer who ever asked - but can't go out on loan as injured!), Williams (likewise!), Benson, Cox and potentially Troy - then we will see money available to address holes we have currently have . As he said don't judge him after 5 minutes judge him after 5 years - but hey as we saw with the ridiculous comments about Reckford - that is not possible for some! . I'll admit I was shocked by the N'Guessan move - but as said above is not a natural forward like Ranger or Smith by the looks of it, not an out an out winger so where do we play him? Especially if we move to 442 or 532! . He has gone off the boil - thus not playing - so if someone wants him and it means we could get another in - Ngoo???? - then is it really a bad thing? . Simple question - would be N'Guessan V A.N.Other - how often would he get picked? I already know the answer for a fair few like Ranger and Pritchard! . We are 8th - only 5 of the POs and probably only 3 wins and a draw away from safety - not bad for Jan! . Even if our away form remains shocking we easily have enough home games to stay in mid table - i.e Oldham, Colchester, Crawley, Sheff U, Bradford . That is before we consider Brentford, Wolves, Preston, MK and Rotherham still have to viisit! . With our away games being "easier" in 2014 we certainly should be looking up and not down - which is a fine place to be in during a transition period![/p][/quote]London glad you see our away games easier in 2014. That's what I thought about Stevenage and gills. We look more like losing at home as we do away now in 2014. 3 very lucky home wins has kept us out of the relegation area[/p][/quote]Not sure why this got so much negative feedback - I agree with a lot of what LR said and his enthusiasm is, as always, infectious, however whether the away games are easier on paper is irrelevant - we have a proven recent track record of losing away to very poor teams i.e. ones looking at relegation, and so "easier" away games still don't fill me with joy. I'd argue we've played better at "harder" away games (Wolves, Rotherham etc) than "easier" ones (Stevenage, Sheffield United...) I'm fairly optimistic in general but you can't polish a turd and trying to be optimistic about our abysmal away form by saying we have "easier" sides to play against is ludicrous - the problem isn't the opposition, it's us. That we have hard games to play at home as well as dealing with a poor away record could be cause for concern rather than optimism. That said we've been in far worse positions, we're probably ahead of all realistic expectations for this season and I can't knock Power for what he's done so far. Just trying to be realistic - I'm conscious people seem to be tarred with the rose tinted/head in the sand or moaning/negative brush, and both sides are getting a bit personal. So just call me an optimistic realist! Or a ****, I don't care ;-) Swindon1984
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