SWINDON TOWN: Barker deal to be completed in next 48 hours

George Barker will join Swindon Town from Brighton this week

George Barker will join Swindon Town from Brighton this week

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A DEAL is believed to have been agreed in principle which will see George Barker make the move from Brighton & Hove Albion to Swindon Town.

As revealed by the Advertiser this morning, the Robins have been lining up a swoop for the young striker and discussions are now understood to be at an advanced stage.

Barker, 22, looks set to complete his switch to the County Ground by the end of the week on an 18-month contract and the club remain hopeful he can be involved in the League One clash with Peterborough United on Saturday.

Barker was recommended to chairman Lee Power and manager Mark Cooper by assistant coach Luke Williams, who was previously in charge of Brighton’s development squad.

The diminutive frontman is expected to sign a permanent deal in Wiltshire but he is not seen as a replacement for Nile Ranger, who is set to leave Town in the next few days.

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12:07pm Tue 7 Jan 14

The Black Hand says...

Nile Ranger now Chairman WOW!
Nile Ranger now Chairman WOW! The Black Hand
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12:08pm Tue 7 Jan 14

McNerd says...

Mr Morshead,
Unless there's a bigger story to come, I think you may have named the wrong person as Chairman of STFC in this story.
Mr Morshead, Unless there's a bigger story to come, I think you may have named the wrong person as Chairman of STFC in this story. McNerd
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12:27pm Tue 7 Jan 14

LeGod says...

where does it mentione Nile Ranger as Chairman are you two on pills!!!!!!!!!!
where does it mentione Nile Ranger as Chairman are you two on pills!!!!!!!!!! LeGod
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1:42pm Tue 7 Jan 14

oz ashes says...

LeGod wrote:
where does it mentione Nile Ranger as Chairman are you two on pills!!!!!!!!!!
and if you are i want some
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: where does it mentione Nile Ranger as Chairman are you two on pills!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]and if you are i want some oz ashes
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1:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

For Oi Den.

I read your comments on Fredi's posts on the other thread. Apologies to other posters but as this thread is effectively superceded I thought I could post all Fredi's comment on TISTFC which took me 30 seconds to find !

The posts are in chronological order:

April 23rd

Sam, please ask the following questions:

1) At the time of the takeover from Andrew Black, £1.2 m had to be shown to FL to satisfy them that STFC had sufficient funds to see out the season. Greg Hall's money, sitting in a solicitor's account to his order was shown. This satisfied the FL to allow takeover to proceed. Yet before any monies were invested into STFC, Jed and his three directors saw fit to pay consultancy fees to themselves to the tune of nearly £200,000. Why do they consider this an appropriate way to run our football club ? (Please do not deny this occurred, or I will post more details, including the director whose home address matches that of the consultancy company paid)

2) When Greg Hall decided to walk away, no investment had been forthcoming and another investor was urgently required. for the record, please will Jed confirm that neither he nor any of his original directors have invested one penny into our club.

3) I posted on here some weeks ago that the club was being sold, the directors all removed and Jed being kept on until the end of the season. This was because the sale, to two people I did not name, had already been signed by Jed. Lee Power's name has since been in the public domain as one of the two people but the second name S. C. (I will refer to him as Russell, that being his middle name) has not. Will Jed please confirm that this takeover will occur ( subject to FL approval ).

4) It is noted that Greg Hall's name has quietly disappeared as a director followed now by two more.....why does Jed not consider it appropriate to announce properly when directors stand down or are removed ?

5) Back to the FL. After Greg Hall walked away, £1.2m was still required to lift the embargo, but the FL insisted that this time the money was actually paid in to STFC. Russell made the payment and the embargo was lifted. With the FL now satisfied, why was it deemed appropriate behaviour for the £1.2 to be immediately withdrawn from STFC and paid back to Russell (thereby leaving total investment to date at a nice round zero)

6) At least Russell has funds and has pledged a further £500k so that the club can pay wages at the end of this month. But all his funding is subject to the takeover receiving FL approval and this is clearly taking much longer than hoped - if Russell and Lee fail the fit and proper person test, what is the Board's back up plan ?

7) In view of the tight state of the club's finances, why was it considered appropriate to lease four new Mercedes for the directors? (again please don't deny this took place, since it is a term of the takeover that the directors when they step down will be allowed to keep their cars)

This is not a witch hunt on my part, merely a determination that our club is run in an honest and open way. There are too many examples of clubs being destroyed by "inappropriate" behaviour by directors. I lived through Diamandis and watched as some of my friends vented their anger outside his house. By then the damage had been done and I quietly determined to become vigilant and use the tools at my disposal (I have an "interesting" job) to ensure my club was run properly. When Fitton arrived, it was quickly evident that I could afford to sleep on the job. I wish for nothing more then to return to being an anonymous fan watching the club I love safe in the knowledge it is being properly run. Training has taught me however, that when it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, regrettably in this instance I may have to conclude it is a duck.


April 24th

More smoke and mirrors. Nothing they have done is illegal - they own the club after all and sadly could pay themselves what they want before collapsing it. Directors with real plans for the future well being of our club would have a mission statement, cash flow forecasts etc. They would also have spoken to players about contracts, even if only in outline terms. Only Nathan and Louis have had conversations and they are by far the lowest paid (and brightest stars?) in the squad. Expect all asset - Wes, Aden, Si Ferry to be sold, all out of contract players released.

But while I, like most fans, would not want to see this mass exodus in the summer, that is absolutely the Board's prerogative and not something I can challenge. So let's stick to the points I raised yesterday which if answered truthfully reveal the Board's intentions. Did the directors pay themselves almost £200,000 in total out of our cash strapped club shortly after taking over and with no investment having been made into the club ? A mere couple of weeks after forcing the sale of Matt Ritchie because they couldn't / wouldn't pay any money into the club to cover January's wage bill ? Please explain how such payments were justified or considered in the club's best interests. And Mr Murrall, if nothing inappropriate has taken place, please give addresses of any consultancy companies paid by STFC since you took over......recognise one of them? You should do.

Sam seems to continue to believe that this Board has been merely naive and slightly lacking in communication skills. Well, I have a suggestion. At the meeting today will Jed ask that the Trust to provide one person to be immediately co-opted on to the Board. This person would ideally have some financial/accounting background and would be given immediate access to the club's bank statements etc. This person could quickly ascertain the true state of affairs and if all is hunky dory we can go into the play-offs as a united and relieved fanbase focused merely on cheering STFC into the Championship. I actually suggested this to Nick Watkins some time ago but nothing happened so Jed, here's your chance to prove your real intentions are in our club's best interests.

April 24th

wizard, let me allay a couple of your concerns. Firstly, I have contacted Sam. Secondly, don't worry what Jed does in the future, since the club has been sold to Power and Crouch, Jed signed the agreement ! So as long as they get FL approval, they are the new owners. The BBC correctly reported that the club was being taken over when Lee Power's name was first mentioned, but Sam was "put away" by Jed who said he was just joining the Board. As others have noted, Jed was not correct in his take on Lee Power's previous business dealings and hence Sam was misled again. The truth is that Lee Power is unlikely to pass the FL fit and proper test and therefore Stephen Crouch will have to front things himself. This seems reasonable, since it is his money that will save our club. Hopefully he gets approved asap and we can all move forward.

April 24th

Oi Den! Crouch was only approached when Greg Hall fell away....it was Hall who had put up the money to gain FL approval for the takeover from Black.


April 24th

wizard, I just want openness and honesty. If we bury our heads in the sand and just hope, Portsmouth or Port Vale may be just round the corner. You remember Diamond Mike. If Crouch has put in £1.2m, bought the club and intends to fund it going forward, he will get my 100% support, since such behaviour is clearly to the benefit of STFC. And let's be clear, if he decides to slash budgets, play youth players and buy cast offs from other clubs, that is totally his prerogative - he has put his money where his mouth is if you like and anyone who invests their own money into a football club will surely want to see it succeed.

If Jed and co had been open and honest from the start, I would have had no problem with them. But they have neither invested nor behaved in the club's best interests

April 24th

wizard, I agree with your summary of Jed, not all bad, maybe in too deep. You were wrong in your understanding of the takeover - no money transferred, debts all written off with exception of about £3m which was carried forward as loan to Black
For Oi Den. I read your comments on Fredi's posts on the other thread. Apologies to other posters but as this thread is effectively superceded I thought I could post all Fredi's comment on TISTFC which took me 30 seconds to find ! The posts are in chronological order: April 23rd Sam, please ask the following questions: 1) At the time of the takeover from Andrew Black, £1.2 m had to be shown to FL to satisfy them that STFC had sufficient funds to see out the season. Greg Hall's money, sitting in a solicitor's account to his order was shown. This satisfied the FL to allow takeover to proceed. Yet before any monies were invested into STFC, Jed and his three directors saw fit to pay consultancy fees to themselves to the tune of nearly £200,000. Why do they consider this an appropriate way to run our football club ? (Please do not deny this occurred, or I will post more details, including the director whose home address matches that of the consultancy company paid) 2) When Greg Hall decided to walk away, no investment had been forthcoming and another investor was urgently required. for the record, please will Jed confirm that neither he nor any of his original directors have invested one penny into our club. 3) I posted on here some weeks ago that the club was being sold, the directors all removed and Jed being kept on until the end of the season. This was because the sale, to two people I did not name, had already been signed by Jed. Lee Power's name has since been in the public domain as one of the two people but the second name S. C. (I will refer to him as Russell, that being his middle name) has not. Will Jed please confirm that this takeover will occur ( subject to FL approval ). 4) It is noted that Greg Hall's name has quietly disappeared as a director followed now by two more.....why does Jed not consider it appropriate to announce properly when directors stand down or are removed ? 5) Back to the FL. After Greg Hall walked away, £1.2m was still required to lift the embargo, but the FL insisted that this time the money was actually paid in to STFC. Russell made the payment and the embargo was lifted. With the FL now satisfied, why was it deemed appropriate behaviour for the £1.2 to be immediately withdrawn from STFC and paid back to Russell (thereby leaving total investment to date at a nice round zero) 6) At least Russell has funds and has pledged a further £500k so that the club can pay wages at the end of this month. But all his funding is subject to the takeover receiving FL approval and this is clearly taking much longer than hoped - if Russell and Lee fail the fit and proper person test, what is the Board's back up plan ? 7) In view of the tight state of the club's finances, why was it considered appropriate to lease four new Mercedes for the directors? (again please don't deny this took place, since it is a term of the takeover that the directors when they step down will be allowed to keep their cars) This is not a witch hunt on my part, merely a determination that our club is run in an honest and open way. There are too many examples of clubs being destroyed by "inappropriate" behaviour by directors. I lived through Diamandis and watched as some of my friends vented their anger outside his house. By then the damage had been done and I quietly determined to become vigilant and use the tools at my disposal (I have an "interesting" job) to ensure my club was run properly. When Fitton arrived, it was quickly evident that I could afford to sleep on the job. I wish for nothing more then to return to being an anonymous fan watching the club I love safe in the knowledge it is being properly run. Training has taught me however, that when it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, regrettably in this instance I may have to conclude it is a duck. April 24th More smoke and mirrors. Nothing they have done is illegal - they own the club after all and sadly could pay themselves what they want before collapsing it. Directors with real plans for the future well being of our club would have a mission statement, cash flow forecasts etc. They would also have spoken to players about contracts, even if only in outline terms. Only Nathan and Louis have had conversations and they are by far the lowest paid (and brightest stars?) in the squad. Expect all asset - Wes, Aden, Si Ferry to be sold, all out of contract players released. But while I, like most fans, would not want to see this mass exodus in the summer, that is absolutely the Board's prerogative and not something I can challenge. So let's stick to the points I raised yesterday which if answered truthfully reveal the Board's intentions. Did the directors pay themselves almost £200,000 in total out of our cash strapped club shortly after taking over and with no investment having been made into the club ? A mere couple of weeks after forcing the sale of Matt Ritchie because they couldn't / wouldn't pay any money into the club to cover January's wage bill ? Please explain how such payments were justified or considered in the club's best interests. And Mr Murrall, if nothing inappropriate has taken place, please give addresses of any consultancy companies paid by STFC since you took over......recognise one of them? You should do. Sam seems to continue to believe that this Board has been merely naive and slightly lacking in communication skills. Well, I have a suggestion. At the meeting today will Jed ask that the Trust to provide one person to be immediately co-opted on to the Board. This person would ideally have some financial/accounting background and would be given immediate access to the club's bank statements etc. This person could quickly ascertain the true state of affairs and if all is hunky dory we can go into the play-offs as a united and relieved fanbase focused merely on cheering STFC into the Championship. I actually suggested this to Nick Watkins some time ago but nothing happened so Jed, here's your chance to prove your real intentions are in our club's best interests. April 24th wizard, let me allay a couple of your concerns. Firstly, I have contacted Sam. Secondly, don't worry what Jed does in the future, since the club has been sold to Power and Crouch, Jed signed the agreement ! So as long as they get FL approval, they are the new owners. The BBC correctly reported that the club was being taken over when Lee Power's name was first mentioned, but Sam was "put away" by Jed who said he was just joining the Board. As others have noted, Jed was not correct in his take on Lee Power's previous business dealings and hence Sam was misled again. The truth is that Lee Power is unlikely to pass the FL fit and proper test and therefore Stephen Crouch will have to front things himself. This seems reasonable, since it is his money that will save our club. Hopefully he gets approved asap and we can all move forward. April 24th Oi Den! Crouch was only approached when Greg Hall fell away....it was Hall who had put up the money to gain FL approval for the takeover from Black. April 24th wizard, I just want openness and honesty. If we bury our heads in the sand and just hope, Portsmouth or Port Vale may be just round the corner. You remember Diamond Mike. If Crouch has put in £1.2m, bought the club and intends to fund it going forward, he will get my 100% support, since such behaviour is clearly to the benefit of STFC. And let's be clear, if he decides to slash budgets, play youth players and buy cast offs from other clubs, that is totally his prerogative - he has put his money where his mouth is if you like and anyone who invests their own money into a football club will surely want to see it succeed. If Jed and co had been open and honest from the start, I would have had no problem with them. But they have neither invested nor behaved in the club's best interests April 24th wizard, I agree with your summary of Jed, not all bad, maybe in too deep. You were wrong in your understanding of the takeover - no money transferred, debts all written off with exception of about £3m which was carried forward as loan to Black Oxon-Red
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1:46pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

May 1st

"it's down to the manager" - if only that was true, don't blame KMac here, he is powerless, he has not even signed a contract himself. None of the players know what is going on, but perversely that may help the play-off push since they are all playing for their futures, be it with us or elsewhere. And some have been appallingly treated, notably Alan McCormack, who has bust a gut for this club and has been badly let down, by this board and the previous lot with continued broken promises about a new contract.

The truth is, nobody knows what will happen until the playoffs are over and the takeover is completed. What is clear, is that our future will definitely be brighter, in any scenario, if we gain promtion to the Championship. So for three (hopefully!) games, even I am trying to focus on the football....(althoug

h written answers to the Trust's questions would be appreciated, 24 hours really is a long time in Jedworld)

May 17th

Ok, enough is enough. I do not know who feeds Sam the persistent misinformation, but I would hope that his editor's recent treatment by Mr Murrall has not scared him into merely becoming the mouthpiece for an unpleasant regime who see bully boy tactics as the best way to excuse their own behaviour and to ensure that the the lies that are told go unquestioned.

So rather than have the fans suffer death by a thousand cuts as a miserable summer of bad news unfolds ( we have suffered enough already this season, on and off the field), let me raise a few uncomfortable truths now so that they can be discussed openly on here, investigated properly by the media and hopefully pursued thoroughly by bodies such as the STFC Trust.

I will start with the players. Aden Flint is for sale. Nathan Thompson is for sale. Wes Foderingham is for sale. Any player with a monetary value is for sale. The club has an agent running round at present trying to offload the high wage earners and secure transfer fees where possible. Interestingly, the players' agents are all dealing direct with the Club's real owner Lee Power - for how long is Jed going to deny he sold the club to Power and Crouch months ago, as correctly reported on local radio ?

Initially I was going to ignore the "introductory fee" Jed secured from Power on the basis it was outside the Club's books, a good bit of business for Jed, fair play to him. But his claim in the truly pathetic answers to the Trust's questions, that all he has got for his hard work and investment is a "headache", will be hard to swallow by most hardworking Town fans. Combined with the "consultancy fees" taken out in the first few weeks, Jed has trousered over £250k, the sort of migraine most of us would put up with. And his "investment"? Still a round number - zero. Waving a piece of paper in front of us at that meeting is hardly proof of anything - the only investment into the club remains Power's £1.2m loan and that is all but spent.

Hence the Club's critical financial state once more. It will not survive the summer without proper investment or the sale of every saleable asset. Trade creditors are being ignored - I know of at least two who are initiating legal proceedings to get what they are owed and another served a winding up order on the Club recently. Perhaps Mr Murrall can explain why it is considered appropriate business practice to pay "consultancy" fees to the directors on taking over, out of club cash flow, in preference to creditors who have been owed money for months ? Simple question, let's have an answer. And once and for all, can we put an end to the myth that the Club will raise more than a million pounds this summer from concerts at the CG ? This is our Board's so called area of expertise, so let's hear their amusing logistics of how this is going to happen in the three months that remain before next season. Any dates set ? Any acts booked ? Any council/police etc permissions sought ? Any advertising booked, tickets for sale ? Do the Board think we are all stupid ?

One person must be exonerated from any blame. KMac has behaved stoically throughout all this and so nearly got the Wembley trip he and the players deserved. He has been properly shafted by this Board and is powerless to affect what goes on. He has no idea which players will be here next season and can make no plans. What is happening preseason ? This is a football club for goodness sake. Does the Board have any strategy going forward ? Would they care to tell us ? And a final question - does everyone understand now what asset stripping is ?


May 17th

Ok let's lance this boil once and for all. Lee Power is the majority owner of STFC, having bought the holding company Seebeck 87 from Jed.

Jed and his directors have not invested any money into STFC, but have taken money out. Let the Adver turn the tables on the unpleasant Mr Murrall and ask him to explain the amounts paid to "consultancy" companies shortly after the takeover was completed. One of these "third party" companies shares an address with Mr Murrall. Why were these payments made ahead of several longstanding creditors ? Fans want more facts ? Sam, start by asking why Begbies Traynor, the would be administrators before the takeover, saw fit to issue a winding up order on the club when their repeated requests for payment were ignored. If money had been invested, surely normal business creditors would be paid ? With regard to players, again if money had been invested, why the fire sale of all our best players ? Reducing the playing budget is one thing, but Nathan and Wes are not top earners at STFC so why are they top of the "for sale" list other than the urgent need for cash. Will the club admit that they have appointed an agent with the specific remit of cashing in on these players ? Since Lee Power is dealing with all football related matters directly, perhaps it would be good to hear from him directly ? Enough to be going on with, Adver, BBC, Trust ?

And to some of the fans on here, sorry if you find all this "boring", it's just that others of us really do care what happens to our club.


May 24th

"The whole redundancy thing puts our footballing issues and concerns into perspective"

Well said robstfc, and maybe before we get the usual mindless attacks on fellow fans on this forum, others may reflect on why some of us are concerned to expose the behaviour of a Board who have put lining their own pockets ahead of honest workers at STFC. Perhaps those who criticise the concerns some of us have expressed on here regarding the lies we have been told by the Board and the immorality of some of their behaviour, can explain to me and others why the six figure sums the Directors paid themselves in "consultancy fees" out of season ticket money was net better deployed protecting jobs or keeping footballing talent like Simon Ferry.

It really is hard not to conclude that the interests of this Board are different from the fans they purport to represent. Good luck to those who have lost their jobs as a direct consequence of this Board's greed, thank you for all you have done for our club and best of luck finding new work in a difficult environment.


May 27th

Nothing negative from me on this, fair play to them, looks a positive initiative which, given decent weather, should succeed. Would be nice to hear beforehand what revenue projections, breakeven figures are, but no doubt we will be given details in July. I am big enough to admit I didn't see this being feasible in the timeframe, first genuinely positive news I have seen from the Board, happy to be one of the first to endorse it.


May 31st

Ok, time for a little "truth update". And before I get shouted down by the same people who prefer to live in denial, let me state at the outset that certain documents will find their way to STFC Trust within 48 hours to support what is explained here.

Firstly, it should be pointed out that the club has chosen to marginalise all but Sam at the Adver in terms of communication. Jed feeds him what he wants disseminated, ignoring both the BBC and, more importantly, it's own in house communication team, which is why Chris Tanner resigned in frustration. The danger of this is that rubbish such as yesterday's story about Adam Rooney is passed off as fact, leaving fans angry and seemingly justifying the Board's behaviour.

One of the documents to which I refer above, is a spreadsheet showing last year's budgets with complete wage details, contract terms, agents fees, signing on fees etc. It makes interesting reading and to put fans' minds at rest, every player last season and all those contracted for next season are on less than £4k per week. It shows that every last pound was budgeted for and shows how £500k was to be spent from January to fit within a season's budget of £4.5 M. Obviously this £500k was not forthcoming and with the sale of Ritchie, the actual budget was under £3.5M. Further it includes all agents fees and shows that Spencer was on a fraction of what is generally assumed. He took nothing from individual deals but rather received a monthly retainer equivalent to less than 3% of total budget.

Back to Rooney - when KMac last saw him, he praised him for his efforts last season and said he would see him preseason. Two days later, Rooney gets a letter from STFC attempting to renege on his contract. How is the player meant to react ? Where does this leave KMac, once again left totally undermined, just as he was over Benson? He is back from holiday now, so would be good to hear his thoughts.

Lee Power continues to run the show and in recent meetings has openly referred to his ownership of the club. If he cannot pass the fit and proper test, is this acceptable - we don't need to discover we are back to the days of breaching FL regulations ? All players are still up for sale, with at least £500k of sales/wage savings required to get through June. No investment from the Board (bluffer Jed still put in zero, taken out loads) but Power admits they would sell the club if there was a few quid in it for him and his cronies.

Worrying times still, I'm afraid. On the positive side, proper fan ownership like Portsmouth may be a step closer.
May 1st "it's down to the manager" - if only that was true, don't blame KMac here, he is powerless, he has not even signed a contract himself. None of the players know what is going on, but perversely that may help the play-off push since they are all playing for their futures, be it with us or elsewhere. And some have been appallingly treated, notably Alan McCormack, who has bust a gut for this club and has been badly let down, by this board and the previous lot with continued broken promises about a new contract. The truth is, nobody knows what will happen until the playoffs are over and the takeover is completed. What is clear, is that our future will definitely be brighter, in any scenario, if we gain promtion to the Championship. So for three (hopefully!) games, even I am trying to focus on the football....(althoug h written answers to the Trust's questions would be appreciated, 24 hours really is a long time in Jedworld) May 17th Ok, enough is enough. I do not know who feeds Sam the persistent misinformation, but I would hope that his editor's recent treatment by Mr Murrall has not scared him into merely becoming the mouthpiece for an unpleasant regime who see bully boy tactics as the best way to excuse their own behaviour and to ensure that the the lies that are told go unquestioned. So rather than have the fans suffer death by a thousand cuts as a miserable summer of bad news unfolds ( we have suffered enough already this season, on and off the field), let me raise a few uncomfortable truths now so that they can be discussed openly on here, investigated properly by the media and hopefully pursued thoroughly by bodies such as the STFC Trust. I will start with the players. Aden Flint is for sale. Nathan Thompson is for sale. Wes Foderingham is for sale. Any player with a monetary value is for sale. The club has an agent running round at present trying to offload the high wage earners and secure transfer fees where possible. Interestingly, the players' agents are all dealing direct with the Club's real owner Lee Power - for how long is Jed going to deny he sold the club to Power and Crouch months ago, as correctly reported on local radio ? Initially I was going to ignore the "introductory fee" Jed secured from Power on the basis it was outside the Club's books, a good bit of business for Jed, fair play to him. But his claim in the truly pathetic answers to the Trust's questions, that all he has got for his hard work and investment is a "headache", will be hard to swallow by most hardworking Town fans. Combined with the "consultancy fees" taken out in the first few weeks, Jed has trousered over £250k, the sort of migraine most of us would put up with. And his "investment"? Still a round number - zero. Waving a piece of paper in front of us at that meeting is hardly proof of anything - the only investment into the club remains Power's £1.2m loan and that is all but spent. Hence the Club's critical financial state once more. It will not survive the summer without proper investment or the sale of every saleable asset. Trade creditors are being ignored - I know of at least two who are initiating legal proceedings to get what they are owed and another served a winding up order on the Club recently. Perhaps Mr Murrall can explain why it is considered appropriate business practice to pay "consultancy" fees to the directors on taking over, out of club cash flow, in preference to creditors who have been owed money for months ? Simple question, let's have an answer. And once and for all, can we put an end to the myth that the Club will raise more than a million pounds this summer from concerts at the CG ? This is our Board's so called area of expertise, so let's hear their amusing logistics of how this is going to happen in the three months that remain before next season. Any dates set ? Any acts booked ? Any council/police etc permissions sought ? Any advertising booked, tickets for sale ? Do the Board think we are all stupid ? One person must be exonerated from any blame. KMac has behaved stoically throughout all this and so nearly got the Wembley trip he and the players deserved. He has been properly shafted by this Board and is powerless to affect what goes on. He has no idea which players will be here next season and can make no plans. What is happening preseason ? This is a football club for goodness sake. Does the Board have any strategy going forward ? Would they care to tell us ? And a final question - does everyone understand now what asset stripping is ? May 17th Ok let's lance this boil once and for all. Lee Power is the majority owner of STFC, having bought the holding company Seebeck 87 from Jed. Jed and his directors have not invested any money into STFC, but have taken money out. Let the Adver turn the tables on the unpleasant Mr Murrall and ask him to explain the amounts paid to "consultancy" companies shortly after the takeover was completed. One of these "third party" companies shares an address with Mr Murrall. Why were these payments made ahead of several longstanding creditors ? Fans want more facts ? Sam, start by asking why Begbies Traynor, the would be administrators before the takeover, saw fit to issue a winding up order on the club when their repeated requests for payment were ignored. If money had been invested, surely normal business creditors would be paid ? With regard to players, again if money had been invested, why the fire sale of all our best players ? Reducing the playing budget is one thing, but Nathan and Wes are not top earners at STFC so why are they top of the "for sale" list other than the urgent need for cash. Will the club admit that they have appointed an agent with the specific remit of cashing in on these players ? Since Lee Power is dealing with all football related matters directly, perhaps it would be good to hear from him directly ? Enough to be going on with, Adver, BBC, Trust ? And to some of the fans on here, sorry if you find all this "boring", it's just that others of us really do care what happens to our club. May 24th "The whole redundancy thing puts our footballing issues and concerns into perspective" Well said robstfc, and maybe before we get the usual mindless attacks on fellow fans on this forum, others may reflect on why some of us are concerned to expose the behaviour of a Board who have put lining their own pockets ahead of honest workers at STFC. Perhaps those who criticise the concerns some of us have expressed on here regarding the lies we have been told by the Board and the immorality of some of their behaviour, can explain to me and others why the six figure sums the Directors paid themselves in "consultancy fees" out of season ticket money was net better deployed protecting jobs or keeping footballing talent like Simon Ferry. It really is hard not to conclude that the interests of this Board are different from the fans they purport to represent. Good luck to those who have lost their jobs as a direct consequence of this Board's greed, thank you for all you have done for our club and best of luck finding new work in a difficult environment. May 27th Nothing negative from me on this, fair play to them, looks a positive initiative which, given decent weather, should succeed. Would be nice to hear beforehand what revenue projections, breakeven figures are, but no doubt we will be given details in July. I am big enough to admit I didn't see this being feasible in the timeframe, first genuinely positive news I have seen from the Board, happy to be one of the first to endorse it. May 31st Ok, time for a little "truth update". And before I get shouted down by the same people who prefer to live in denial, let me state at the outset that certain documents will find their way to STFC Trust within 48 hours to support what is explained here. Firstly, it should be pointed out that the club has chosen to marginalise all but Sam at the Adver in terms of communication. Jed feeds him what he wants disseminated, ignoring both the BBC and, more importantly, it's own in house communication team, which is why Chris Tanner resigned in frustration. The danger of this is that rubbish such as yesterday's story about Adam Rooney is passed off as fact, leaving fans angry and seemingly justifying the Board's behaviour. One of the documents to which I refer above, is a spreadsheet showing last year's budgets with complete wage details, contract terms, agents fees, signing on fees etc. It makes interesting reading and to put fans' minds at rest, every player last season and all those contracted for next season are on less than £4k per week. It shows that every last pound was budgeted for and shows how £500k was to be spent from January to fit within a season's budget of £4.5 M. Obviously this £500k was not forthcoming and with the sale of Ritchie, the actual budget was under £3.5M. Further it includes all agents fees and shows that Spencer was on a fraction of what is generally assumed. He took nothing from individual deals but rather received a monthly retainer equivalent to less than 3% of total budget. Back to Rooney - when KMac last saw him, he praised him for his efforts last season and said he would see him preseason. Two days later, Rooney gets a letter from STFC attempting to renege on his contract. How is the player meant to react ? Where does this leave KMac, once again left totally undermined, just as he was over Benson? He is back from holiday now, so would be good to hear his thoughts. Lee Power continues to run the show and in recent meetings has openly referred to his ownership of the club. If he cannot pass the fit and proper test, is this acceptable - we don't need to discover we are back to the days of breaching FL regulations ? All players are still up for sale, with at least £500k of sales/wage savings required to get through June. No investment from the Board (bluffer Jed still put in zero, taken out loads) but Power admits they would sell the club if there was a few quid in it for him and his cronies. Worrying times still, I'm afraid. On the positive side, proper fan ownership like Portsmouth may be a step closer. Oxon-Red
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1:46pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Oxon-Red says...

June 3rd

On the basis that the truth comes out, however they like to spin in, about two months after the event, we should soon get an Adver exclusive that Jed has sold the club to Power and Crouch.....the disinformation and misinformation emanating from the County Ground would be vaguely amusing if the situation wasn't so serious and didn't involve our football club.


June 3rd

No grudge ciclo and nothing to do with the club other than genuine fan. Have always supported and will continue to support anyone whose best interests are aligned with the Club's. I was genuinely shocked and angered by this lot's behaviour when they took over and the lies that were told to appease fans. The trouble when you start lying is how do you stop and how do you dress up the truth when it finally comes out - politicians the world over have fallen foul of this. Funnily enough, I like Jed 's enthusiasm - it comes across clearly when you chat to him on twitter - and no fan would argue with the principle of running the club on a sound financial basis and "cutting one's cloth" accordingly....the trouble is Jed started on the wrong foot by pretending to be something he isn't and while the lies continue it is hard to believe anything. If he were big enough to tell the whole truth, his enthusiasm might win over a lot of the doubters, but, like so many politicians, his ego only allows him to plough on the way he started.


June 3rd

I know nothing about Crouch and with regard to Power, only the stuff that is in the public domain that is evidently causing him issues with the FL. What I do know is that it is they who have put up the £1.2m which has allowed the club to survive to here, for which I am as grateful as any other fan. It will be good when we can hear from them directly - the fact that they have invested real money demands and gets my respect, but it is not enough to see us through the summer so we need to hear their plans for the way forward. Power paid Jed a nice introductory fee, so it will be interesting to hear his views on the role he envisages for Jed going forward. Initially the plan was for Jed to step down but if there are still FL difficulties outstanding that may have changed.


August 1st

London Red, I read your (almost daily) comments and note that you are constantly condescending and patronising towards fellow posters. Some of us, while reading the message boards daily, only feel the need to contribute when there is something valid to say. You should try it.

My concerns, and those of many other fans, have not been dispelled by the summer activity, but rather heightened. I sat quietly listening to Steve Murrall's business plans and though the numbers seemed wildly optimistic, did not comment because I am not negative for negative's sake but rather like any true fan want to hear positive ideas for taking the club forward which Steve certainly attempted to convey. I found it amusing that Steve "knew" who I was, and kept silent when told that my comments were personal in nature. I have never been employed by STFC and my previous comments were purely factual, not personal.

I have asked for honesty and transparency from the Board but we have not got it. Whether he was the right man for the job or not, KMAC is one of the nicest guys you could meet and for him to leave because he considered his position untenable should have raised more media concern than it did. When Lee Power bought the club, he paid off Jed and those briefly associated with the club, Greg Hall, Tommy Agombar and Martin King. Nothing wrong with that, but we have a right to know who owns the club. I think we also have a right to know the details of the Spurs arrangement. An excellent deal for Spurs clearly, but I am only concerned about STFC - I am told that under the agreement, the Spurs players have to play, but I think it is right to question the integrity of such an arrangement. Against this background, what chance of attracting a new manager, if there is a meagre wage (KMAC never even had a contract), no say in player acquisition and even a limited say in team selection ? Power let it be known that he expected to make an appointment "within 48 hours " of KMAC's departure, with a Spurs mate lined up, but for whatever reason that fell through and attracting someone from outside the "circle of trust" may prove difficult.

It seems highly likely that if we get a half decent start, Cooper keeps the job full time - he seems to have handled himself very well over the summer and probably deserves his chance. Whether or not we all agree on that, there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that is to give the manager and players our 100% support from Saturday. While off field concerns remain valid, so does the need to get behind the team on the pitch. COYR

p.s. question for London Red. I have some silver cutlery at home. If I hock it for whatever I can get, and borrow some cheap silver plated stuff, I've still got a drawer full of cutlery, right ? So nothing's changed ?


August 8th

Hilarious timing of Lee Power's statement, with last real asset, Wes, about to be given to Brentford for £450k. Can't wait for Jed's spin on this one after promising he wouldn't be sold. And the two of them are already in talks to sell the club on, trying to blag a ridiculous sum. And still people will believe the bullsh*t. The fans deserve better, the players and staff deserve better. Fortunately, it will get better, but more pain first.


August 8th

Thedon69 maybe you are one of Jed's fans on twitter, or maybe you know someone who is.......if so, ask him two simple questions 1) is Wes about to be sold 2) are you in talks to sell the club ? just want to see if he is prepared to lie on Twitter......


August 16th

I believe in second chances, so for his previous misdemeanours, if he has paid his dues to society and is intent on leading a better life, then he deserves a chance. But he has an outstanding rape charge ffs ! No talks should have been entered into until he has been cleared of this offence. Then take the risk by all means, but to try to be opportunistic now is totally wrong and shows a morally bankrupt attitude by Jed and the Board. Would Jed be so blasé if it was his wife/sister/daughter who had made the rape allegations that the authorities have seen fit to prosecute ? Or is Jed saying rape is not a serious enough charge to prevent an exciting footballing talent carrying on his career ? Did he need to be on a murder charge, Jed ? Perhaps we could get Dave Lee Travis on the cheap to play a few records at half time ? Just wrong on so many levels. Don't mind us being poor, don't mind us being in League 1 still, but we are a family based, community aware club, as our Board keep telling us, so how can this be right ?


August 19th

"with the Chairman and the owners "......but Jed, you keep telling people you are the owner, must be an Adver mistake....unless the Chairman hasn't been telling the truth these last few months....


August 19th

No great shock, it is Cooper, with LP continuing to run the show (pick the team ?). Think it's going to be tough on Cooper, but the players all seem onside....next few results will be crucial.


August 23rd

How on earth can we loan Williams out the day before a home league game ? With Ranger not yet fit, Cooper is staring at the possibility of playing the infamous Craig Levein 4-6-0 in his first full game in charge, at home to Gillingham no less. Hardly making it easy for your new man are you Jed ? If it is only a loan move, surely wait until the last moment and give STFC the best chance of actually winning tomorrow ? Feel really sorry for Cooper, he desperately needs a home win to keep the fans onside. But of course, he has no say....


October 17th

No Mike, still here, enjoying the football like most fans, impressed with Coops and the players. Won't bother you too much with the other stuff going on, doesn't seem to worry most fans. True cash and creditors position horrific, lawsuits pending, statutory demands and winding up threats ongoing (one high profile story will surely break soon)......fully expect the only credible Board member SS to walk away soon, apparently appalled that Jed did not tell her the true state of STFC finances......but like you I will be there to cheer the team on on Friday....


October 17th

So if I told you that no money actually changed hands for those two young players and that a truly eye watering amount ( over £750 k) is being pursued legally against STFC in no less than four separate actions, you would still think all is ok....I'll stay vigilant, others can believe what JM tells them


December 2nd

An attempt at some clarity. A brief resume of the facts is necessary, not least so that fans know who they need to support in all this, however unpalatable that may seem. When Billy Liar bought the club for £1, together with Martin King who because of his disqualified director status remains in the background, but is still 50/50 with Billy, they managed to stump up the £1 themselves. The club had substantial cash in the bank , having just taken in the season ticket money, but substantial ongoing liabilities in the months ahead, based on the budget of the previous Board which Black was no longer prepared to fund.

Billy, King and sidekick Murrall immediately helped themselves to some of the lovely cash (innitogether some might say), to the tune of nearly £200k. They then seek outside investment for the club, up steps Greg Hall, who becomes a director, but when he discovers the lies Billy has told him, he decides not to invest. Enter Lee Power, who steps into the investor role and is persuaded to pay off Hall for his troubles and a further £150k to Billy and King for an equity stake. As the club continues to need funds over the following months, Power puts more cash in.

Fast forward to about a month ago. Power is concerned about the continued cash outflows, grabs control of the bank account and is horrified at payments made without his knowledge, not least to Billy's account in Malta. Murrall is asked in no uncertain terms to leave. Power, furious at the lies Billy has told him, tries to get control of the club. Problem is, despite investing in the club, Power has not secured the proper paperwork to reflect what he believes is his true stake in the club. His latest investment , he believes, triggers an option to take control of a majority holding, but, from a legal standpoint, does it ?

Meanwhile Billy, probably realizing the game is nearly up, renews attempts initiated a few months earlier to flog the club. A third party is mandated to sell it and is currently hawking it around, Billy and King only wanting £1M each for their share !!

There are only two answers to the poll the Adver ran on Friday and sadly, one of them ("neither") is not realistic. Fans may have preconceived ideas about Power, but at least he has been putting money into our club not sucking it out. Billy has done the complete opposite whilst maintaining an almost admirable bravado. Not surprisingly, the Club has suffered in the interim, as debts pile up. Legal writs for payments not made are in danger of sinking it and trade creditors, with key people like pitch and kit suppliers at the forefront, are at horrific levels. To gain our support, Power should be upfront about these issues, fans respect honesty. He also needs to put someone in daily charge that he can trust and who is credible - if he can only be in the country 90 days then he needs a proper chief exec.

Let's be clear, Power's plans may be painful to witness, as the budget is slashed to pre Sturrock levels. Wes and others will leave in Jan. But we may still have a club to support - the alternative is unthinkable.


December 2nd

Chish, watch the film Billy Liar and you may get the analogy. This is not personal against Jed, he strikes me as a chancer who may have unwittingly ended up running the show and is now living the role. Sangita Shah was brought in as the face of credibility but she too has expressed her frustration at the stories she has been told. She has her reputation to protect and I doubt she will stay on the Board for long. Look to me it's quite simple. Power has put money into our club, so gains my respect. He may subsequently have had regrets, but has made further investment (more respect) and not unreasonably needs to protect his position. I have no idea what his ultimate motives are, but if he sells the club for a profit a year down the line, good luck to him. Irrefutably, Jed has taken money out of our club during a period when the club is desperately short of funds. This hardly seems in the best interests of the club and at best is a p*ss take after investing 50p.


December 3rd

Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ?

Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.


December 3rd

What a breath of fresh air, the first professional and credible statement in almost a year....the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, but believe me this is the best news for STFC fans all year

December 28th

Looks like we will have to face the second half of the season without maybe five key players: Foderingham and Luongo (bids Power can't refuse), Pritchard (Spurs to cash in), Ajose (Power won't pay Peterborough asking price) and Ranger (no explanation needed). Time for doom and gloom ? Not necessarily. Expect exciting young recruits from one particular Premiership side and I don't mean Spurs. They will feel at home in Red and we may find ourselves singing "you'll never walk alone". January won't be dull !
June 3rd On the basis that the truth comes out, however they like to spin in, about two months after the event, we should soon get an Adver exclusive that Jed has sold the club to Power and Crouch.....the disinformation and misinformation emanating from the County Ground would be vaguely amusing if the situation wasn't so serious and didn't involve our football club. June 3rd No grudge ciclo and nothing to do with the club other than genuine fan. Have always supported and will continue to support anyone whose best interests are aligned with the Club's. I was genuinely shocked and angered by this lot's behaviour when they took over and the lies that were told to appease fans. The trouble when you start lying is how do you stop and how do you dress up the truth when it finally comes out - politicians the world over have fallen foul of this. Funnily enough, I like Jed 's enthusiasm - it comes across clearly when you chat to him on twitter - and no fan would argue with the principle of running the club on a sound financial basis and "cutting one's cloth" accordingly....the trouble is Jed started on the wrong foot by pretending to be something he isn't and while the lies continue it is hard to believe anything. If he were big enough to tell the whole truth, his enthusiasm might win over a lot of the doubters, but, like so many politicians, his ego only allows him to plough on the way he started. June 3rd I know nothing about Crouch and with regard to Power, only the stuff that is in the public domain that is evidently causing him issues with the FL. What I do know is that it is they who have put up the £1.2m which has allowed the club to survive to here, for which I am as grateful as any other fan. It will be good when we can hear from them directly - the fact that they have invested real money demands and gets my respect, but it is not enough to see us through the summer so we need to hear their plans for the way forward. Power paid Jed a nice introductory fee, so it will be interesting to hear his views on the role he envisages for Jed going forward. Initially the plan was for Jed to step down but if there are still FL difficulties outstanding that may have changed. August 1st London Red, I read your (almost daily) comments and note that you are constantly condescending and patronising towards fellow posters. Some of us, while reading the message boards daily, only feel the need to contribute when there is something valid to say. You should try it. My concerns, and those of many other fans, have not been dispelled by the summer activity, but rather heightened. I sat quietly listening to Steve Murrall's business plans and though the numbers seemed wildly optimistic, did not comment because I am not negative for negative's sake but rather like any true fan want to hear positive ideas for taking the club forward which Steve certainly attempted to convey. I found it amusing that Steve "knew" who I was, and kept silent when told that my comments were personal in nature. I have never been employed by STFC and my previous comments were purely factual, not personal. I have asked for honesty and transparency from the Board but we have not got it. Whether he was the right man for the job or not, KMAC is one of the nicest guys you could meet and for him to leave because he considered his position untenable should have raised more media concern than it did. When Lee Power bought the club, he paid off Jed and those briefly associated with the club, Greg Hall, Tommy Agombar and Martin King. Nothing wrong with that, but we have a right to know who owns the club. I think we also have a right to know the details of the Spurs arrangement. An excellent deal for Spurs clearly, but I am only concerned about STFC - I am told that under the agreement, the Spurs players have to play, but I think it is right to question the integrity of such an arrangement. Against this background, what chance of attracting a new manager, if there is a meagre wage (KMAC never even had a contract), no say in player acquisition and even a limited say in team selection ? Power let it be known that he expected to make an appointment "within 48 hours " of KMAC's departure, with a Spurs mate lined up, but for whatever reason that fell through and attracting someone from outside the "circle of trust" may prove difficult. It seems highly likely that if we get a half decent start, Cooper keeps the job full time - he seems to have handled himself very well over the summer and probably deserves his chance. Whether or not we all agree on that, there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that is to give the manager and players our 100% support from Saturday. While off field concerns remain valid, so does the need to get behind the team on the pitch. COYR p.s. question for London Red. I have some silver cutlery at home. If I hock it for whatever I can get, and borrow some cheap silver plated stuff, I've still got a drawer full of cutlery, right ? So nothing's changed ? August 8th Hilarious timing of Lee Power's statement, with last real asset, Wes, about to be given to Brentford for £450k. Can't wait for Jed's spin on this one after promising he wouldn't be sold. And the two of them are already in talks to sell the club on, trying to blag a ridiculous sum. And still people will believe the bullsh*t. The fans deserve better, the players and staff deserve better. Fortunately, it will get better, but more pain first. August 8th Thedon69 maybe you are one of Jed's fans on twitter, or maybe you know someone who is.......if so, ask him two simple questions 1) is Wes about to be sold 2) are you in talks to sell the club ? just want to see if he is prepared to lie on Twitter...... August 16th I believe in second chances, so for his previous misdemeanours, if he has paid his dues to society and is intent on leading a better life, then he deserves a chance. But he has an outstanding rape charge ffs ! No talks should have been entered into until he has been cleared of this offence. Then take the risk by all means, but to try to be opportunistic now is totally wrong and shows a morally bankrupt attitude by Jed and the Board. Would Jed be so blasé if it was his wife/sister/daughter who had made the rape allegations that the authorities have seen fit to prosecute ? Or is Jed saying rape is not a serious enough charge to prevent an exciting footballing talent carrying on his career ? Did he need to be on a murder charge, Jed ? Perhaps we could get Dave Lee Travis on the cheap to play a few records at half time ? Just wrong on so many levels. Don't mind us being poor, don't mind us being in League 1 still, but we are a family based, community aware club, as our Board keep telling us, so how can this be right ? August 19th "with the Chairman and the owners "......but Jed, you keep telling people you are the owner, must be an Adver mistake....unless the Chairman hasn't been telling the truth these last few months.... August 19th No great shock, it is Cooper, with LP continuing to run the show (pick the team ?). Think it's going to be tough on Cooper, but the players all seem onside....next few results will be crucial. August 23rd How on earth can we loan Williams out the day before a home league game ? With Ranger not yet fit, Cooper is staring at the possibility of playing the infamous Craig Levein 4-6-0 in his first full game in charge, at home to Gillingham no less. Hardly making it easy for your new man are you Jed ? If it is only a loan move, surely wait until the last moment and give STFC the best chance of actually winning tomorrow ? Feel really sorry for Cooper, he desperately needs a home win to keep the fans onside. But of course, he has no say.... October 17th No Mike, still here, enjoying the football like most fans, impressed with Coops and the players. Won't bother you too much with the other stuff going on, doesn't seem to worry most fans. True cash and creditors position horrific, lawsuits pending, statutory demands and winding up threats ongoing (one high profile story will surely break soon)......fully expect the only credible Board member SS to walk away soon, apparently appalled that Jed did not tell her the true state of STFC finances......but like you I will be there to cheer the team on on Friday.... October 17th So if I told you that no money actually changed hands for those two young players and that a truly eye watering amount ( over £750 k) is being pursued legally against STFC in no less than four separate actions, you would still think all is ok....I'll stay vigilant, others can believe what JM tells them December 2nd An attempt at some clarity. A brief resume of the facts is necessary, not least so that fans know who they need to support in all this, however unpalatable that may seem. When Billy Liar bought the club for £1, together with Martin King who because of his disqualified director status remains in the background, but is still 50/50 with Billy, they managed to stump up the £1 themselves. The club had substantial cash in the bank , having just taken in the season ticket money, but substantial ongoing liabilities in the months ahead, based on the budget of the previous Board which Black was no longer prepared to fund. Billy, King and sidekick Murrall immediately helped themselves to some of the lovely cash (innitogether some might say), to the tune of nearly £200k. They then seek outside investment for the club, up steps Greg Hall, who becomes a director, but when he discovers the lies Billy has told him, he decides not to invest. Enter Lee Power, who steps into the investor role and is persuaded to pay off Hall for his troubles and a further £150k to Billy and King for an equity stake. As the club continues to need funds over the following months, Power puts more cash in. Fast forward to about a month ago. Power is concerned about the continued cash outflows, grabs control of the bank account and is horrified at payments made without his knowledge, not least to Billy's account in Malta. Murrall is asked in no uncertain terms to leave. Power, furious at the lies Billy has told him, tries to get control of the club. Problem is, despite investing in the club, Power has not secured the proper paperwork to reflect what he believes is his true stake in the club. His latest investment , he believes, triggers an option to take control of a majority holding, but, from a legal standpoint, does it ? Meanwhile Billy, probably realizing the game is nearly up, renews attempts initiated a few months earlier to flog the club. A third party is mandated to sell it and is currently hawking it around, Billy and King only wanting £1M each for their share !! There are only two answers to the poll the Adver ran on Friday and sadly, one of them ("neither") is not realistic. Fans may have preconceived ideas about Power, but at least he has been putting money into our club not sucking it out. Billy has done the complete opposite whilst maintaining an almost admirable bravado. Not surprisingly, the Club has suffered in the interim, as debts pile up. Legal writs for payments not made are in danger of sinking it and trade creditors, with key people like pitch and kit suppliers at the forefront, are at horrific levels. To gain our support, Power should be upfront about these issues, fans respect honesty. He also needs to put someone in daily charge that he can trust and who is credible - if he can only be in the country 90 days then he needs a proper chief exec. Let's be clear, Power's plans may be painful to witness, as the budget is slashed to pre Sturrock levels. Wes and others will leave in Jan. But we may still have a club to support - the alternative is unthinkable. December 2nd Chish, watch the film Billy Liar and you may get the analogy. This is not personal against Jed, he strikes me as a chancer who may have unwittingly ended up running the show and is now living the role. Sangita Shah was brought in as the face of credibility but she too has expressed her frustration at the stories she has been told. She has her reputation to protect and I doubt she will stay on the Board for long. Look to me it's quite simple. Power has put money into our club, so gains my respect. He may subsequently have had regrets, but has made further investment (more respect) and not unreasonably needs to protect his position. I have no idea what his ultimate motives are, but if he sells the club for a profit a year down the line, good luck to him. Irrefutably, Jed has taken money out of our club during a period when the club is desperately short of funds. This hardly seems in the best interests of the club and at best is a p*ss take after investing 50p. December 3rd Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth. December 3rd What a breath of fresh air, the first professional and credible statement in almost a year....the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, but believe me this is the best news for STFC fans all year December 28th Looks like we will have to face the second half of the season without maybe five key players: Foderingham and Luongo (bids Power can't refuse), Pritchard (Spurs to cash in), Ajose (Power won't pay Peterborough asking price) and Ranger (no explanation needed). Time for doom and gloom ? Not necessarily. Expect exciting young recruits from one particular Premiership side and I don't mean Spurs. They will feel at home in Red and we may find ourselves singing "you'll never walk alone". January won't be dull ! Oxon-Red
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6:15pm Wed 8 Jan 14

International Robin2 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
June 3rd

On the basis that the truth comes out, however they like to spin in, about two months after the event, we should soon get an Adver exclusive that Jed has sold the club to Power and Crouch.....the disinformation and misinformation emanating from the County Ground would be vaguely amusing if the situation wasn't so serious and didn't involve our football club.


June 3rd

No grudge ciclo and nothing to do with the club other than genuine fan. Have always supported and will continue to support anyone whose best interests are aligned with the Club's. I was genuinely shocked and angered by this lot's behaviour when they took over and the lies that were told to appease fans. The trouble when you start lying is how do you stop and how do you dress up the truth when it finally comes out - politicians the world over have fallen foul of this. Funnily enough, I like Jed 's enthusiasm - it comes across clearly when you chat to him on twitter - and no fan would argue with the principle of running the club on a sound financial basis and "cutting one's cloth" accordingly....the trouble is Jed started on the wrong foot by pretending to be something he isn't and while the lies continue it is hard to believe anything. If he were big enough to tell the whole truth, his enthusiasm might win over a lot of the doubters, but, like so many politicians, his ego only allows him to plough on the way he started.


June 3rd

I know nothing about Crouch and with regard to Power, only the stuff that is in the public domain that is evidently causing him issues with the FL. What I do know is that it is they who have put up the £1.2m which has allowed the club to survive to here, for which I am as grateful as any other fan. It will be good when we can hear from them directly - the fact that they have invested real money demands and gets my respect, but it is not enough to see us through the summer so we need to hear their plans for the way forward. Power paid Jed a nice introductory fee, so it will be interesting to hear his views on the role he envisages for Jed going forward. Initially the plan was for Jed to step down but if there are still FL difficulties outstanding that may have changed.


August 1st

London Red, I read your (almost daily) comments and note that you are constantly condescending and patronising towards fellow posters. Some of us, while reading the message boards daily, only feel the need to contribute when there is something valid to say. You should try it.

My concerns, and those of many other fans, have not been dispelled by the summer activity, but rather heightened. I sat quietly listening to Steve Murrall's business plans and though the numbers seemed wildly optimistic, did not comment because I am not negative for negative's sake but rather like any true fan want to hear positive ideas for taking the club forward which Steve certainly attempted to convey. I found it amusing that Steve "knew" who I was, and kept silent when told that my comments were personal in nature. I have never been employed by STFC and my previous comments were purely factual, not personal.

I have asked for honesty and transparency from the Board but we have not got it. Whether he was the right man for the job or not, KMAC is one of the nicest guys you could meet and for him to leave because he considered his position untenable should have raised more media concern than it did. When Lee Power bought the club, he paid off Jed and those briefly associated with the club, Greg Hall, Tommy Agombar and Martin King. Nothing wrong with that, but we have a right to know who owns the club. I think we also have a right to know the details of the Spurs arrangement. An excellent deal for Spurs clearly, but I am only concerned about STFC - I am told that under the agreement, the Spurs players have to play, but I think it is right to question the integrity of such an arrangement. Against this background, what chance of attracting a new manager, if there is a meagre wage (KMAC never even had a contract), no say in player acquisition and even a limited say in team selection ? Power let it be known that he expected to make an appointment "within 48 hours " of KMAC's departure, with a Spurs mate lined up, but for whatever reason that fell through and attracting someone from outside the "circle of trust" may prove difficult.

It seems highly likely that if we get a half decent start, Cooper keeps the job full time - he seems to have handled himself very well over the summer and probably deserves his chance. Whether or not we all agree on that, there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that is to give the manager and players our 100% support from Saturday. While off field concerns remain valid, so does the need to get behind the team on the pitch. COYR

p.s. question for London Red. I have some silver cutlery at home. If I hock it for whatever I can get, and borrow some cheap silver plated stuff, I've still got a drawer full of cutlery, right ? So nothing's changed ?


August 8th

Hilarious timing of Lee Power's statement, with last real asset, Wes, about to be given to Brentford for £450k. Can't wait for Jed's spin on this one after promising he wouldn't be sold. And the two of them are already in talks to sell the club on, trying to blag a ridiculous sum. And still people will believe the bullsh*t. The fans deserve better, the players and staff deserve better. Fortunately, it will get better, but more pain first.


August 8th

Thedon69 maybe you are one of Jed's fans on twitter, or maybe you know someone who is.......if so, ask him two simple questions 1) is Wes about to be sold 2) are you in talks to sell the club ? just want to see if he is prepared to lie on Twitter......


August 16th

I believe in second chances, so for his previous misdemeanours, if he has paid his dues to society and is intent on leading a better life, then he deserves a chance. But he has an outstanding rape charge ffs ! No talks should have been entered into until he has been cleared of this offence. Then take the risk by all means, but to try to be opportunistic now is totally wrong and shows a morally bankrupt attitude by Jed and the Board. Would Jed be so blasé if it was his wife/sister/daughter who had made the rape allegations that the authorities have seen fit to prosecute ? Or is Jed saying rape is not a serious enough charge to prevent an exciting footballing talent carrying on his career ? Did he need to be on a murder charge, Jed ? Perhaps we could get Dave Lee Travis on the cheap to play a few records at half time ? Just wrong on so many levels. Don't mind us being poor, don't mind us being in League 1 still, but we are a family based, community aware club, as our Board keep telling us, so how can this be right ?


August 19th

"with the Chairman and the owners "......but Jed, you keep telling people you are the owner, must be an Adver mistake....unless the Chairman hasn't been telling the truth these last few months....


August 19th

No great shock, it is Cooper, with LP continuing to run the show (pick the team ?). Think it's going to be tough on Cooper, but the players all seem onside....next few results will be crucial.


August 23rd

How on earth can we loan Williams out the day before a home league game ? With Ranger not yet fit, Cooper is staring at the possibility of playing the infamous Craig Levein 4-6-0 in his first full game in charge, at home to Gillingham no less. Hardly making it easy for your new man are you Jed ? If it is only a loan move, surely wait until the last moment and give STFC the best chance of actually winning tomorrow ? Feel really sorry for Cooper, he desperately needs a home win to keep the fans onside. But of course, he has no say....


October 17th

No Mike, still here, enjoying the football like most fans, impressed with Coops and the players. Won't bother you too much with the other stuff going on, doesn't seem to worry most fans. True cash and creditors position horrific, lawsuits pending, statutory demands and winding up threats ongoing (one high profile story will surely break soon)......fully expect the only credible Board member SS to walk away soon, apparently appalled that Jed did not tell her the true state of STFC finances......but like you I will be there to cheer the team on on Friday....


October 17th

So if I told you that no money actually changed hands for those two young players and that a truly eye watering amount ( over £750 k) is being pursued legally against STFC in no less than four separate actions, you would still think all is ok....I'll stay vigilant, others can believe what JM tells them


December 2nd

An attempt at some clarity. A brief resume of the facts is necessary, not least so that fans know who they need to support in all this, however unpalatable that may seem. When Billy Liar bought the club for £1, together with Martin King who because of his disqualified director status remains in the background, but is still 50/50 with Billy, they managed to stump up the £1 themselves. The club had substantial cash in the bank , having just taken in the season ticket money, but substantial ongoing liabilities in the months ahead, based on the budget of the previous Board which Black was no longer prepared to fund.

Billy, King and sidekick Murrall immediately helped themselves to some of the lovely cash (innitogether some might say), to the tune of nearly £200k. They then seek outside investment for the club, up steps Greg Hall, who becomes a director, but when he discovers the lies Billy has told him, he decides not to invest. Enter Lee Power, who steps into the investor role and is persuaded to pay off Hall for his troubles and a further £150k to Billy and King for an equity stake. As the club continues to need funds over the following months, Power puts more cash in.

Fast forward to about a month ago. Power is concerned about the continued cash outflows, grabs control of the bank account and is horrified at payments made without his knowledge, not least to Billy's account in Malta. Murrall is asked in no uncertain terms to leave. Power, furious at the lies Billy has told him, tries to get control of the club. Problem is, despite investing in the club, Power has not secured the proper paperwork to reflect what he believes is his true stake in the club. His latest investment , he believes, triggers an option to take control of a majority holding, but, from a legal standpoint, does it ?

Meanwhile Billy, probably realizing the game is nearly up, renews attempts initiated a few months earlier to flog the club. A third party is mandated to sell it and is currently hawking it around, Billy and King only wanting £1M each for their share !!

There are only two answers to the poll the Adver ran on Friday and sadly, one of them ("neither") is not realistic. Fans may have preconceived ideas about Power, but at least he has been putting money into our club not sucking it out. Billy has done the complete opposite whilst maintaining an almost admirable bravado. Not surprisingly, the Club has suffered in the interim, as debts pile up. Legal writs for payments not made are in danger of sinking it and trade creditors, with key people like pitch and kit suppliers at the forefront, are at horrific levels. To gain our support, Power should be upfront about these issues, fans respect honesty. He also needs to put someone in daily charge that he can trust and who is credible - if he can only be in the country 90 days then he needs a proper chief exec.

Let's be clear, Power's plans may be painful to witness, as the budget is slashed to pre Sturrock levels. Wes and others will leave in Jan. But we may still have a club to support - the alternative is unthinkable.


December 2nd

Chish, watch the film Billy Liar and you may get the analogy. This is not personal against Jed, he strikes me as a chancer who may have unwittingly ended up running the show and is now living the role. Sangita Shah was brought in as the face of credibility but she too has expressed her frustration at the stories she has been told. She has her reputation to protect and I doubt she will stay on the Board for long. Look to me it's quite simple. Power has put money into our club, so gains my respect. He may subsequently have had regrets, but has made further investment (more respect) and not unreasonably needs to protect his position. I have no idea what his ultimate motives are, but if he sells the club for a profit a year down the line, good luck to him. Irrefutably, Jed has taken money out of our club during a period when the club is desperately short of funds. This hardly seems in the best interests of the club and at best is a p*ss take after investing 50p.


December 3rd

Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ?

Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.


December 3rd

What a breath of fresh air, the first professional and credible statement in almost a year....the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, but believe me this is the best news for STFC fans all year

December 28th

Looks like we will have to face the second half of the season without maybe five key players: Foderingham and Luongo (bids Power can't refuse), Pritchard (Spurs to cash in), Ajose (Power won't pay Peterborough asking price) and Ranger (no explanation needed). Time for doom and gloom ? Not necessarily. Expect exciting young recruits from one particular Premiership side and I don't mean Spurs. They will feel at home in Red and we may find ourselves singing "you'll never walk alone". January won't be dull !
Reading it like that, how can someone really make it up. The detail and the ego that is clearly obvious from those now disappeared, if you haven't filled your ears with sand... Saying that, there will still be at least one... There's only one idiot that can't get their thick skull around it.

Thank you Fredi for you're insights! Keep them coming!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: June 3rd On the basis that the truth comes out, however they like to spin in, about two months after the event, we should soon get an Adver exclusive that Jed has sold the club to Power and Crouch.....the disinformation and misinformation emanating from the County Ground would be vaguely amusing if the situation wasn't so serious and didn't involve our football club. June 3rd No grudge ciclo and nothing to do with the club other than genuine fan. Have always supported and will continue to support anyone whose best interests are aligned with the Club's. I was genuinely shocked and angered by this lot's behaviour when they took over and the lies that were told to appease fans. The trouble when you start lying is how do you stop and how do you dress up the truth when it finally comes out - politicians the world over have fallen foul of this. Funnily enough, I like Jed 's enthusiasm - it comes across clearly when you chat to him on twitter - and no fan would argue with the principle of running the club on a sound financial basis and "cutting one's cloth" accordingly....the trouble is Jed started on the wrong foot by pretending to be something he isn't and while the lies continue it is hard to believe anything. If he were big enough to tell the whole truth, his enthusiasm might win over a lot of the doubters, but, like so many politicians, his ego only allows him to plough on the way he started. June 3rd I know nothing about Crouch and with regard to Power, only the stuff that is in the public domain that is evidently causing him issues with the FL. What I do know is that it is they who have put up the £1.2m which has allowed the club to survive to here, for which I am as grateful as any other fan. It will be good when we can hear from them directly - the fact that they have invested real money demands and gets my respect, but it is not enough to see us through the summer so we need to hear their plans for the way forward. Power paid Jed a nice introductory fee, so it will be interesting to hear his views on the role he envisages for Jed going forward. Initially the plan was for Jed to step down but if there are still FL difficulties outstanding that may have changed. August 1st London Red, I read your (almost daily) comments and note that you are constantly condescending and patronising towards fellow posters. Some of us, while reading the message boards daily, only feel the need to contribute when there is something valid to say. You should try it. My concerns, and those of many other fans, have not been dispelled by the summer activity, but rather heightened. I sat quietly listening to Steve Murrall's business plans and though the numbers seemed wildly optimistic, did not comment because I am not negative for negative's sake but rather like any true fan want to hear positive ideas for taking the club forward which Steve certainly attempted to convey. I found it amusing that Steve "knew" who I was, and kept silent when told that my comments were personal in nature. I have never been employed by STFC and my previous comments were purely factual, not personal. I have asked for honesty and transparency from the Board but we have not got it. Whether he was the right man for the job or not, KMAC is one of the nicest guys you could meet and for him to leave because he considered his position untenable should have raised more media concern than it did. When Lee Power bought the club, he paid off Jed and those briefly associated with the club, Greg Hall, Tommy Agombar and Martin King. Nothing wrong with that, but we have a right to know who owns the club. I think we also have a right to know the details of the Spurs arrangement. An excellent deal for Spurs clearly, but I am only concerned about STFC - I am told that under the agreement, the Spurs players have to play, but I think it is right to question the integrity of such an arrangement. Against this background, what chance of attracting a new manager, if there is a meagre wage (KMAC never even had a contract), no say in player acquisition and even a limited say in team selection ? Power let it be known that he expected to make an appointment "within 48 hours " of KMAC's departure, with a Spurs mate lined up, but for whatever reason that fell through and attracting someone from outside the "circle of trust" may prove difficult. It seems highly likely that if we get a half decent start, Cooper keeps the job full time - he seems to have handled himself very well over the summer and probably deserves his chance. Whether or not we all agree on that, there is one thing that we can all agree on, and that is to give the manager and players our 100% support from Saturday. While off field concerns remain valid, so does the need to get behind the team on the pitch. COYR p.s. question for London Red. I have some silver cutlery at home. If I hock it for whatever I can get, and borrow some cheap silver plated stuff, I've still got a drawer full of cutlery, right ? So nothing's changed ? August 8th Hilarious timing of Lee Power's statement, with last real asset, Wes, about to be given to Brentford for £450k. Can't wait for Jed's spin on this one after promising he wouldn't be sold. And the two of them are already in talks to sell the club on, trying to blag a ridiculous sum. And still people will believe the bullsh*t. The fans deserve better, the players and staff deserve better. Fortunately, it will get better, but more pain first. August 8th Thedon69 maybe you are one of Jed's fans on twitter, or maybe you know someone who is.......if so, ask him two simple questions 1) is Wes about to be sold 2) are you in talks to sell the club ? just want to see if he is prepared to lie on Twitter...... August 16th I believe in second chances, so for his previous misdemeanours, if he has paid his dues to society and is intent on leading a better life, then he deserves a chance. But he has an outstanding rape charge ffs ! No talks should have been entered into until he has been cleared of this offence. Then take the risk by all means, but to try to be opportunistic now is totally wrong and shows a morally bankrupt attitude by Jed and the Board. Would Jed be so blasé if it was his wife/sister/daughter who had made the rape allegations that the authorities have seen fit to prosecute ? Or is Jed saying rape is not a serious enough charge to prevent an exciting footballing talent carrying on his career ? Did he need to be on a murder charge, Jed ? Perhaps we could get Dave Lee Travis on the cheap to play a few records at half time ? Just wrong on so many levels. Don't mind us being poor, don't mind us being in League 1 still, but we are a family based, community aware club, as our Board keep telling us, so how can this be right ? August 19th "with the Chairman and the owners "......but Jed, you keep telling people you are the owner, must be an Adver mistake....unless the Chairman hasn't been telling the truth these last few months.... August 19th No great shock, it is Cooper, with LP continuing to run the show (pick the team ?). Think it's going to be tough on Cooper, but the players all seem onside....next few results will be crucial. August 23rd How on earth can we loan Williams out the day before a home league game ? With Ranger not yet fit, Cooper is staring at the possibility of playing the infamous Craig Levein 4-6-0 in his first full game in charge, at home to Gillingham no less. Hardly making it easy for your new man are you Jed ? If it is only a loan move, surely wait until the last moment and give STFC the best chance of actually winning tomorrow ? Feel really sorry for Cooper, he desperately needs a home win to keep the fans onside. But of course, he has no say.... October 17th No Mike, still here, enjoying the football like most fans, impressed with Coops and the players. Won't bother you too much with the other stuff going on, doesn't seem to worry most fans. True cash and creditors position horrific, lawsuits pending, statutory demands and winding up threats ongoing (one high profile story will surely break soon)......fully expect the only credible Board member SS to walk away soon, apparently appalled that Jed did not tell her the true state of STFC finances......but like you I will be there to cheer the team on on Friday.... October 17th So if I told you that no money actually changed hands for those two young players and that a truly eye watering amount ( over £750 k) is being pursued legally against STFC in no less than four separate actions, you would still think all is ok....I'll stay vigilant, others can believe what JM tells them December 2nd An attempt at some clarity. A brief resume of the facts is necessary, not least so that fans know who they need to support in all this, however unpalatable that may seem. When Billy Liar bought the club for £1, together with Martin King who because of his disqualified director status remains in the background, but is still 50/50 with Billy, they managed to stump up the £1 themselves. The club had substantial cash in the bank , having just taken in the season ticket money, but substantial ongoing liabilities in the months ahead, based on the budget of the previous Board which Black was no longer prepared to fund. Billy, King and sidekick Murrall immediately helped themselves to some of the lovely cash (innitogether some might say), to the tune of nearly £200k. They then seek outside investment for the club, up steps Greg Hall, who becomes a director, but when he discovers the lies Billy has told him, he decides not to invest. Enter Lee Power, who steps into the investor role and is persuaded to pay off Hall for his troubles and a further £150k to Billy and King for an equity stake. As the club continues to need funds over the following months, Power puts more cash in. Fast forward to about a month ago. Power is concerned about the continued cash outflows, grabs control of the bank account and is horrified at payments made without his knowledge, not least to Billy's account in Malta. Murrall is asked in no uncertain terms to leave. Power, furious at the lies Billy has told him, tries to get control of the club. Problem is, despite investing in the club, Power has not secured the proper paperwork to reflect what he believes is his true stake in the club. His latest investment , he believes, triggers an option to take control of a majority holding, but, from a legal standpoint, does it ? Meanwhile Billy, probably realizing the game is nearly up, renews attempts initiated a few months earlier to flog the club. A third party is mandated to sell it and is currently hawking it around, Billy and King only wanting £1M each for their share !! There are only two answers to the poll the Adver ran on Friday and sadly, one of them ("neither") is not realistic. Fans may have preconceived ideas about Power, but at least he has been putting money into our club not sucking it out. Billy has done the complete opposite whilst maintaining an almost admirable bravado. Not surprisingly, the Club has suffered in the interim, as debts pile up. Legal writs for payments not made are in danger of sinking it and trade creditors, with key people like pitch and kit suppliers at the forefront, are at horrific levels. To gain our support, Power should be upfront about these issues, fans respect honesty. He also needs to put someone in daily charge that he can trust and who is credible - if he can only be in the country 90 days then he needs a proper chief exec. Let's be clear, Power's plans may be painful to witness, as the budget is slashed to pre Sturrock levels. Wes and others will leave in Jan. But we may still have a club to support - the alternative is unthinkable. December 2nd Chish, watch the film Billy Liar and you may get the analogy. This is not personal against Jed, he strikes me as a chancer who may have unwittingly ended up running the show and is now living the role. Sangita Shah was brought in as the face of credibility but she too has expressed her frustration at the stories she has been told. She has her reputation to protect and I doubt she will stay on the Board for long. Look to me it's quite simple. Power has put money into our club, so gains my respect. He may subsequently have had regrets, but has made further investment (more respect) and not unreasonably needs to protect his position. I have no idea what his ultimate motives are, but if he sells the club for a profit a year down the line, good luck to him. Irrefutably, Jed has taken money out of our club during a period when the club is desperately short of funds. This hardly seems in the best interests of the club and at best is a p*ss take after investing 50p. December 3rd Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth. December 3rd What a breath of fresh air, the first professional and credible statement in almost a year....the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, but believe me this is the best news for STFC fans all year December 28th Looks like we will have to face the second half of the season without maybe five key players: Foderingham and Luongo (bids Power can't refuse), Pritchard (Spurs to cash in), Ajose (Power won't pay Peterborough asking price) and Ranger (no explanation needed). Time for doom and gloom ? Not necessarily. Expect exciting young recruits from one particular Premiership side and I don't mean Spurs. They will feel at home in Red and we may find ourselves singing "you'll never walk alone". January won't be dull ![/p][/quote]Reading it like that, how can someone really make it up. The detail and the ego that is clearly obvious from those now disappeared, if you haven't filled your ears with sand... Saying that, there will still be at least one... There's only one idiot that can't get their thick skull around it. Thank you Fredi for you're insights! Keep them coming! International Robin2
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