Town to terminate Ranger's contract

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Nile Ranger Nile Ranger

SWINDON Town are to hold talks with Nile Ranger’s representatives later this week as they prepare to terminate the striker’s contract at the County Ground.

The Advertiser understands Town’s management team and chairman Lee Power are at the end of their tether with Ranger following the former Newcastle frontman’s latest disciplinary indiscretion.

The 22-year-old, who has scored six goals in 19 appearances for the Robins after joining the club in the summer, missed training on Friday and did not travel with the squad to Bradford on Sunday.

His absence from the session at the club’s Liddington base was the latest in a string of misdemeanours which have plagued Ranger’s stay in Wiltshire, as well as the rest of his career, and it’s proved to be the tipping point, with Town now ready to bring the forward’s time at the County Ground to an end.

Ranger is due to go on trial in Newcastle on January 20 on a rape charge, which he denies, but Swindon look ready to get rid of the frontman before his court date.

A meeting is understood to have been scheduled for Thursday, 24 hours after Town face Crawley Town in League One - a match Ranger will not play a part in.

After taking a leap of faith in drafting the tearaway in on a one-year deal in August, Swindon feel let down by the number of times Ranger has missed training. Misfortune appears to have followed him around off the pitch, as well, and on Christmas Day Ranger tweeted a picture of his Range Rover after it was involved in an accident.

While the Robins’ striking options may be increasingly limited, Power and manager Mark Cooper have had to take action after Ranger’s antics negatively affected the rest of the Swindon dressing room, with some players questioning why their teammate could get away with actions they would not.

Therefore, Town are expected to discuss the cancellation of Ranger’s contract this week.

Assistant coach Luke Williams gave his thoughts on Ranger’s antics when he spoke to the local media yesterday.

He said: “Nile is having a difficult time with managing his life. We are trying to be as patient as we can with him and support him as much as we possibly can but we’ve got a job to do and a duty of care to the wonderful professionals that we’ve got that come in and do their work diligently day in, day out.

“At some point Nile has to get onboard with that or he has to take a step back and realise he needs to get one or two issues sorted out before he embarks on a career in football.”

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5:39am Tue 31 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

Now get Kevin Phillips !!!!!!
Now get Kevin Phillips !!!!!! smirg kcab

5:51am Tue 31 Dec 13

nosyrudeman says...

Will be missed from the footballing side of things, but certainly not from the dressing room disruption and stay away antics. Maybe football is the wrong job for him, he really needs to knuckle down and do what normal working people do and get a proper job,and earn some much needed self respect and learn that you just can't go missing in everyday working life when you feel like it. Most of us STFC supporters would have loved to have been given the chance to become a pro' footballer, and not waste it. I imagine he is already a very wealthy young man from his early part of his footballing life.

3 points tomorrow please.
Big drawback on losing Nicky Ajose.
Will be missed from the footballing side of things, but certainly not from the dressing room disruption and stay away antics. Maybe football is the wrong job for him, he really needs to knuckle down and do what normal working people do and get a proper job,and earn some much needed self respect and learn that you just can't go missing in everyday working life when you feel like it. Most of us STFC supporters would have loved to have been given the chance to become a pro' footballer, and not waste it. I imagine he is already a very wealthy young man from his early part of his footballing life. 3 points tomorrow please. Big drawback on losing Nicky Ajose. nosyrudeman

6:25am Tue 31 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Shame as Ranger was a very good player and could have had a career in football but well done Cooper and Power correct decision for STFC. Hopefully a lesson learned that some gambles just not worth the risk.
Shame as Ranger was a very good player and could have had a career in football but well done Cooper and Power correct decision for STFC. Hopefully a lesson learned that some gambles just not worth the risk. Wilesy

7:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

The Spurs Farmer says...

Recall Benson.
Recall Benson. The Spurs Farmer

7:25am Tue 31 Dec 13

Scouse Red says...

Big shame, especially with Ajose going but the right call probably, needs of the many and all that

In all seriousness, hope Cooper has a massive load of cotton wool to wrap up Dany and Miles!!
Big shame, especially with Ajose going but the right call probably, needs of the many and all that In all seriousness, hope Cooper has a massive load of cotton wool to wrap up Dany and Miles!! Scouse Red

8:01am Tue 31 Dec 13

Haydonender says...

Fairplay to the club for making the stand, we'll miss him on the pitch but fully back the club's decision - we want professionals giving it their all for STFC.

With Ajose gone too and it seeming like El Gabbas is not going to get a new contract, we really need two strikers to go with N'Guessan and Storey. Can't see us being able to pay a couple of hundred thousand for players like Thomas (or Ajose) without selling someone like Wes first though unfortunately.
Fairplay to the club for making the stand, we'll miss him on the pitch but fully back the club's decision - we want professionals giving it their all for STFC. With Ajose gone too and it seeming like El Gabbas is not going to get a new contract, we really need two strikers to go with N'Guessan and Storey. Can't see us being able to pay a couple of hundred thousand for players like Thomas (or Ajose) without selling someone like Wes first though unfortunately. Haydonender

8:12am Tue 31 Dec 13

bradley red 1 says...

Correct decision!
Correct decision! bradley red 1

8:19am Tue 31 Dec 13

Since 1950 says...

A shame for both parties in many ways. It had to be brought to a halt and the correct decision has been made. The club have done their best for him but the boy is a fool to himself.
A shame for both parties in many ways. It had to be brought to a halt and the correct decision has been made. The club have done their best for him but the boy is a fool to himself. Since 1950

8:26am Tue 31 Dec 13

Swindon Crier says...

Glad about this just get rid, a lot of young players there, hecould be a negative influence on them
Glad about this just get rid, a lot of young players there, hecould be a negative influence on them Swindon Crier

8:26am Tue 31 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

Can't help feeling one day Nile will put his sensible head on and be a good team / club player, but for now with his present attitude he is too much like high maintenance and looks as if he is going to get what he deserves for this in respect of his contract with us.
Shame but agree with 'get rid of'' .....
Can't help feeling one day Nile will put his sensible head on and be a good team / club player, but for now with his present attitude he is too much like high maintenance and looks as if he is going to get what he deserves for this in respect of his contract with us. Shame but agree with 'get rid of'' ..... Chish and Fips

8:30am Tue 31 Dec 13

Psychedelic Syd says...

Great shame he is wasting his potential. Right decision. COYMR
Great shame he is wasting his potential. Right decision. COYMR Psychedelic Syd

8:33am Tue 31 Dec 13

Mushymushy says...

He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out.
He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out. Mushymushy

8:52am Tue 31 Dec 13

umpcah says...

Well Done Swindon Town for giving this talented player a chance ! Too bad that he blew it completely ! Well Done too Swindon Town for bringing an end to this now obviously lost cause !
Well Done Swindon Town for giving this talented player a chance ! Too bad that he blew it completely ! Well Done too Swindon Town for bringing an end to this now obviously lost cause ! umpcah

9:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

Rgbargee says...

I am sorry to lose a good player, but understand we can't wait any longer for him to change his attitude.
I hope he can sort his life out and providing he is proved innocent get on with his life at some other club.
I am sorry to lose a good player, but understand we can't wait any longer for him to change his attitude. I hope he can sort his life out and providing he is proved innocent get on with his life at some other club. Rgbargee

9:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

glenda hoddle says...

Real shame. nile showed great effort and attitude on the field.whats going on off it is disapointing to say the least. could have been tapped up. all will be revealed in the next month.Big loss for town.
Real shame. nile showed great effort and attitude on the field.whats going on off it is disapointing to say the least. could have been tapped up. all will be revealed in the next month.Big loss for town. glenda hoddle

9:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

southside7 says...

Decision took too long.
Decision took too long. southside7

9:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Right decision. Very unwise to sign him in the first place.
Right decision. Very unwise to sign him in the first place. Oi Den!

9:23am Tue 31 Dec 13

mrwoo says...

Mushymushy wrote:
He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out.
hahaha the guy is a complete moron and will probably spend most of his life in jail
[quote][p][bold]Mushymushy[/bold] wrote: He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out.[/p][/quote]hahaha the guy is a complete moron and will probably spend most of his life in jail mrwoo

10:11am Tue 31 Dec 13

bluesharpbob says...

Glad to see the back end of him, despite his undoubted talent. In truth we don't know exactly what's going on in his mind. But his behaviour would undoubtedly have a very unsettling effect on the rest of the boys. Especially as most of them are so young.

Well done to the management, board and players for keeping us just outside the play-offs. A very good achievement for such a young squad.

I fancy they won't quite make the play-offs, because of lack of experience and inconsistency. But nevertheless, a pretty good job from all concerned at the County Ground up till now.
Glad to see the back end of him, despite his undoubted talent. In truth we don't know exactly what's going on in his mind. But his behaviour would undoubtedly have a very unsettling effect on the rest of the boys. Especially as most of them are so young. Well done to the management, board and players for keeping us just outside the play-offs. A very good achievement for such a young squad. I fancy they won't quite make the play-offs, because of lack of experience and inconsistency. But nevertheless, a pretty good job from all concerned at the County Ground up till now. bluesharpbob

10:12am Tue 31 Dec 13

hertz says...

I am sure one day i the future the light bulb will go on and he will think to himself What have I done ? such a wastof goo talent
I am sure one day i the future the light bulb will go on and he will think to himself What have I done ? such a wastof goo talent hertz

10:13am Tue 31 Dec 13

Robinonfire says...

Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey. Robinonfire

10:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Perhaps you could explain to us why Cooper's days are numbered? At the same time, why not let us know who could do better than him and how?
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could explain to us why Cooper's days are numbered? At the same time, why not let us know who could do better than him and how? Oi Den!

10:29am Tue 31 Dec 13

toonarmy11 says...

best decision he is a bad apple ..and just a point the court case isnt in newcastle he is barred from within 5 miles for his own safety after offering newcastle fans fights on twitter ..just hope stfc dont pay his contract up he broke it give him nowt
best decision he is a bad apple ..and just a point the court case isnt in newcastle he is barred from within 5 miles for his own safety after offering newcastle fans fights on twitter ..just hope stfc dont pay his contract up he broke it give him nowt toonarmy11

10:38am Tue 31 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Robinonfire wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Perhaps you could explain to us why Cooper's days are numbered? At the same time, why not let us know who could do better than him and how?
Very good point - not sure any sensible supporter would say Cooper's not doing a good job, I certainly don't have any issue with him and what he's accomplished so far. We may struggle without Ranger but we'll just need to adapt and hopefully this will allow Storey more of a chance in the team (different types of players I know but at least he may get more of an opportunity now).

Would be interested to know more about the contact Ranger was on - I believe the right decision was made in getting rid as no-one can receive special treatment as I'd rather we lose one player than lose the whole dressing room due to discontent (Robinonfire - I'd argue Cooper's days may have been numbered if he'd kept Ranger rather than getting rid). That said the pragmatic part of me is wondering whether we could have frozen him out of the matchday squad, waited on the result of the trial and then sold him on for a profit if found not guilty. This wouldn't have been the right thing to do but just wondering if it could've been done - some on here seem to think our owners are only out for a quick buck (not my view) and if this were true surely they would have explored that option?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could explain to us why Cooper's days are numbered? At the same time, why not let us know who could do better than him and how?[/p][/quote]Very good point - not sure any sensible supporter would say Cooper's not doing a good job, I certainly don't have any issue with him and what he's accomplished so far. We may struggle without Ranger but we'll just need to adapt and hopefully this will allow Storey more of a chance in the team (different types of players I know but at least he may get more of an opportunity now). Would be interested to know more about the contact Ranger was on - I believe the right decision was made in getting rid as no-one can receive special treatment as I'd rather we lose one player than lose the whole dressing room due to discontent (Robinonfire - I'd argue Cooper's days may have been numbered if he'd kept Ranger rather than getting rid). That said the pragmatic part of me is wondering whether we could have frozen him out of the matchday squad, waited on the result of the trial and then sold him on for a profit if found not guilty. This wouldn't have been the right thing to do but just wondering if it could've been done - some on here seem to think our owners are only out for a quick buck (not my view) and if this were true surely they would have explored that option? Swindon1984

11:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

MarksDad says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Why do we have so many pratts like you supposedly supporting our club. Please go away.

Pity about Ranger but couldn't continue.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.[/p][/quote]Why do we have so many pratts like you supposedly supporting our club. Please go away. Pity about Ranger but couldn't continue. COYR MarksDad

11:08am Tue 31 Dec 13

MarksDad says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Why do we have so many pratts like you supposedly supporting our club. Please go away.

Pity about Ranger but couldn't continue.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.[/p][/quote]Why do we have so many pratts like you supposedly supporting our club. Please go away. Pity about Ranger but couldn't continue. COYR MarksDad

11:23am Tue 31 Dec 13

Graham8181 says...

Well done Town good decision
Well done Town good decision Graham8181

11:31am Tue 31 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

The right decision in my eyes, obviously the lad has talent but no respect or discipline and for those saying he will come good after his trial is a bit like saying Hannibal Lecter’s new year’s resolution is to give up eating liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti, it isn’t gonna happen.

Well done to MC and Mr. Power for making the right decision, no one is bigger than our club, respect to you both.

On a lighter note I would like to wish all Town fans a very happy and prosperous 2014, happy New Year, take care and stay safe.

Good luck to MC and the lads tomorrow, 3 point pleeeease.
The right decision in my eyes, obviously the lad has talent but no respect or discipline and for those saying he will come good after his trial is a bit like saying Hannibal Lecter’s new year’s resolution is to give up eating liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti, it isn’t gonna happen. Well done to MC and Mr. Power for making the right decision, no one is bigger than our club, respect to you both. On a lighter note I would like to wish all Town fans a very happy and prosperous 2014, happy New Year, take care and stay safe. Good luck to MC and the lads tomorrow, 3 point pleeeease. 6degreessouth

11:44am Tue 31 Dec 13

jfmorty says...

RANGE ROVER
RANGER OVER
RANGE ROVER RANGER OVER jfmorty

12:06pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Twinplums says...

I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.
I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway. Twinplums

12:08pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mrwoo says...

I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him!
I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him! mrwoo

12:28pm Tue 31 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

Twinplums wrote:
I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.
I've also heard your the bolloxx twinplums
[quote][p][bold]Twinplums[/bold] wrote: I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.[/p][/quote]I've also heard your the bolloxx twinplums smirg kcab

12:30pm Tue 31 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

mrwoo wrote:
I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him!
Incredibly a post like this gets a +3 rating, just goes to show how low the quality of posts has deteriorated on here
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him![/p][/quote]Incredibly a post like this gets a +3 rating, just goes to show how low the quality of posts has deteriorated on here The Jockster

12:36pm Tue 31 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Twinplums wrote:
I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.
So you've seen all the trial transcripts and the evidence then mein dumpkof? Or were you present when he allegedly committed the offence?
[quote][p][bold]Twinplums[/bold] wrote: I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.[/p][/quote]So you've seen all the trial transcripts and the evidence then mein dumpkof? Or were you present when he allegedly committed the offence? The Jockster

12:37pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Digby22 says...

I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ! Digby22

12:49pm Tue 31 Dec 13

hereford says...

The Spurs Farmer wrote:
Recall Benson.
very good choice he is doing a good job at luton scoring goals for fun and only on loan there
[quote][p][bold]The Spurs Farmer[/bold] wrote: Recall Benson.[/p][/quote]very good choice he is doing a good job at luton scoring goals for fun and only on loan there hereford

12:51pm Tue 31 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

The Jockster wrote:
Twinplums wrote:
I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.
So you've seen all the trial transcripts and the evidence then mein dumpkof? Or were you present when he allegedly committed the offence?
Or possibly Twinplums is the alleged victim!! Ha Ha
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Twinplums[/bold] wrote: I've heard he is a cert to go down, so he would be on his way anyway.[/p][/quote]So you've seen all the trial transcripts and the evidence then mein dumpkof? Or were you present when he allegedly committed the offence?[/p][/quote]Or possibly Twinplums is the alleged victim!! Ha Ha 6degreessouth

1:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mrwoo says...

Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
[quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man. mrwoo

1:11pm Tue 31 Dec 13

MITTED says...

Can't help thinking that the incredible pressure Ranger is under because of his impending court case is being largely ignored, all this is heaped on a young man who clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the box based on his checkered past. If he is guilty then he goes to prison and good riddance, if he is innnocent, the pressure will be off and another club is going to pick up a very talented for footballer for nothing. A little over 3 weeks is all the club needs to wait - by all means suspend him in the meantime and fine him if necessary, but don't chuck the baby out with the bath water FFS.
Can't help thinking that the incredible pressure Ranger is under because of his impending court case is being largely ignored, all this is heaped on a young man who clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the box based on his checkered past. If he is guilty then he goes to prison and good riddance, if he is innnocent, the pressure will be off and another club is going to pick up a very talented for footballer for nothing. A little over 3 weeks is all the club needs to wait - by all means suspend him in the meantime and fine him if necessary, but don't chuck the baby out with the bath water FFS. MITTED

1:26pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
You're the latest of many to suggest that his antics are the result of the rape trial distracting him. Why do you think that, when he has done exactly the same things - and worse - at other clubs, long before he was ever accused of rape?
[quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]You're the latest of many to suggest that his antics are the result of the rape trial distracting him. Why do you think that, when he has done exactly the same things - and worse - at other clubs, long before he was ever accused of rape? Oi Den!

1:32pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

MITTED wrote:
Can't help thinking that the incredible pressure Ranger is under because of his impending court case is being largely ignored, all this is heaped on a young man who clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the box based on his checkered past. If he is guilty then he goes to prison and good riddance, if he is innnocent, the pressure will be off and another club is going to pick up a very talented for footballer for nothing. A little over 3 weeks is all the club needs to wait - by all means suspend him in the meantime and fine him if necessary, but don't chuck the baby out with the bath water FFS.
Unless he changes his plea only 2 people will ever know whether he's innocent or guilty. The rest of us can only hope the jury reaches the right verdict.
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: Can't help thinking that the incredible pressure Ranger is under because of his impending court case is being largely ignored, all this is heaped on a young man who clearly isn't the sharpest tool in the box based on his checkered past. If he is guilty then he goes to prison and good riddance, if he is innnocent, the pressure will be off and another club is going to pick up a very talented for footballer for nothing. A little over 3 weeks is all the club needs to wait - by all means suspend him in the meantime and fine him if necessary, but don't chuck the baby out with the bath water FFS.[/p][/quote]Unless he changes his plea only 2 people will ever know whether he's innocent or guilty. The rest of us can only hope the jury reaches the right verdict. Oi Den!

2:22pm Tue 31 Dec 13

the wizard says...

There is obviously something wrong going way back with his back ground and up bringing, and a deep seated feeling of insecurity which trigger many of his actions..
That said it does not excuse his behavior and in no way is it to be condoned .
I think it was a massive risk/gamble to sign him, and the short sharp of having to come down the leagues to get a game and an income seemed to work for him initially, but he only too easily led and fell back into his old ways once more. If he is guilty and does go to prison he will only come out worse than he went in as I suspect from his behaviour he is too easily led by the wrong sort.

Big shame, big talent, wasted by a young impressionable mind which is all to easily led. He needed some sort of rehab as opposed to coming here. While I sympathize with our management and owners for giving him the chance I hope now their future signings are of a more respectable and savoy nature and the lesson has been learned. Like many others who share a more usual job, I am very surprised that it has taken this long for things to get sorted.

Wish all of you the very best for 2014, may your sporting and private lives be wholesome and successful and may you all enjoy good health and fortune.

After going back through the archive on this site to the point when I joined, which was after the close of the BBC 606 I feel that the standards have dropped considerably. So as its the end of the year its the end for me as well, as other issues have come into focus which are becoming more mobility and time orientated etc. from now on I'll still be supporting and following The Town, but from a greater distance Wish you all well, and have a good one. Cheers.
There is obviously something wrong going way back with his back ground and up bringing, and a deep seated feeling of insecurity which trigger many of his actions.. That said it does not excuse his behavior and in no way is it to be condoned . I think it was a massive risk/gamble to sign him, and the short sharp of having to come down the leagues to get a game and an income seemed to work for him initially, but he only too easily led and fell back into his old ways once more. If he is guilty and does go to prison he will only come out worse than he went in as I suspect from his behaviour he is too easily led by the wrong sort. Big shame, big talent, wasted by a young impressionable mind which is all to easily led. He needed some sort of rehab as opposed to coming here. While I sympathize with our management and owners for giving him the chance I hope now their future signings are of a more respectable and savoy nature and the lesson has been learned. Like many others who share a more usual job, I am very surprised that it has taken this long for things to get sorted. Wish all of you the very best for 2014, may your sporting and private lives be wholesome and successful and may you all enjoy good health and fortune. After going back through the archive on this site to the point when I joined, which was after the close of the BBC 606 I feel that the standards have dropped considerably. So as its the end of the year its the end for me as well, as other issues have come into focus which are becoming more mobility and time orientated etc. from now on I'll still be supporting and following The Town, but from a greater distance Wish you all well, and have a good one. Cheers. the wizard

2:40pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty.

It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court.

Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon !

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty. It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court. Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon ! COYMR Oxon-Red

2:43pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mrwoo says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty.

It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court.

Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon !

COYMR
Mine is a statement of fact. He either did it or didn't regardless of verdict. IDIOT!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty. It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court. Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Mine is a statement of fact. He either did it or didn't regardless of verdict. IDIOT! mrwoo

2:44pm Tue 31 Dec 13

dazzastfc says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty.

It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court.

Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon !

COYMR
not guilty now a days mean jack...

He will have a top lawyer and barrister...
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty. It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court. Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon ! COYMR[/p][/quote]not guilty now a days mean jack... He will have a top lawyer and barrister... dazzastfc

2:57pm Tue 31 Dec 13

sputnik says...

first brush with the law was at 15yrs. can't blame his high profile on that.
first brush with the law was at 15yrs. can't blame his high profile on that. sputnik

3:12pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Here is a person with a shocking attitude and as he admitted on Twitter " A bad un " this guy really is one bad apple. He has totaled two cars recently and finds it fun to post pictures on twitter about it. This guy is bad news and is a gambling addict and needs help on more than just one problem. Do I feel sorry for him, no I don't he is fully responsible for his own actions and god knows just how many chances he has been given. Fantastic footballer but is wasting all this and even his brother says he is evil. What a problem it causes us though with two excellent strikers being taken away from the squad with the unexpected early recall by Peterborough of Ajose. Certainly looking like all change with a few players being targeted by other clubs. Big shame as we were holding our own very well in the division and may have to build again. Lets hope any of the contracted players are not let go cheaply.
Here is a person with a shocking attitude and as he admitted on Twitter " A bad un " this guy really is one bad apple. He has totaled two cars recently and finds it fun to post pictures on twitter about it. This guy is bad news and is a gambling addict and needs help on more than just one problem. Do I feel sorry for him, no I don't he is fully responsible for his own actions and god knows just how many chances he has been given. Fantastic footballer but is wasting all this and even his brother says he is evil. What a problem it causes us though with two excellent strikers being taken away from the squad with the unexpected early recall by Peterborough of Ajose. Certainly looking like all change with a few players being targeted by other clubs. Big shame as we were holding our own very well in the division and may have to build again. Lets hope any of the contracted players are not let go cheaply. Di kanny oh

3:22pm Tue 31 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger.
You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time.
So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.
Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger. You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time. So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond. The Jockster

3:34pm Tue 31 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

Come on mark tell power super Kevin Phillips has just been released, that would make a statement for promotion
Come on mark tell power super Kevin Phillips has just been released, that would make a statement for promotion smirg kcab

3:41pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger.
You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time.
So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.
I'm an old BBC 606 poster and agree the standard was better - there were still the wind ups but a lot less personal and quite often funny. Also the site had moderators who were quite good.

Some of the posts on here are like War and Peace sometimes, and the personal battles that exist and this stupid thumbs up / down don't help.

Anyway hope you and your family have a Happy New Year.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger. You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time. So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.[/p][/quote]I'm an old BBC 606 poster and agree the standard was better - there were still the wind ups but a lot less personal and quite often funny. Also the site had moderators who were quite good. Some of the posts on here are like War and Peace sometimes, and the personal battles that exist and this stupid thumbs up / down don't help. Anyway hope you and your family have a Happy New Year. Chish and Fips

4:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger.
You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time.
So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.
Hmmmm, yes, the R is missing, savory it should be, anyway, that's it.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger. You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time. So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm, yes, the R is missing, savory it should be, anyway, that's it. the wizard

4:25pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Since 1950 says...

Mushymushy wrote:
He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out.
Once his trial is over he might have a lot of 'time' to sort himself out!
[quote][p][bold]Mushymushy[/bold] wrote: He should stay he was brilliant against Coventry once he gets his trial over with I'm sure he would of sorted himself out.[/p][/quote]Once his trial is over he might have a lot of 'time' to sort himself out! Since 1950

4:30pm Tue 31 Dec 13

allshookup says...

mrwoo wrote:
I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him!
you sound like a complete thick moron, get a life!!
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I hope he gets bummed up the bum by a big gay in prison. That'll teach him![/p][/quote]you sound like a complete thick moron, get a life!! allshookup

4:35pm Tue 31 Dec 13

jayden says...

I See Shefield U have done the same with Marlon King.
I See Shefield U have done the same with Marlon King. jayden

4:57pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Swindonian63 says...

For those of you who have indicated that you're not intending to continue contributing to this site can you consider www.ja606.co.uk

There aren't many of us on there but we have a good debate in a good spirit. More contributors would be most welcome.

Can I wish all contributors a Happy New Year.
For those of you who have indicated that you're not intending to continue contributing to this site can you consider www.ja606.co.uk There aren't many of us on there but we have a good debate in a good spirit. More contributors would be most welcome. Can I wish all contributors a Happy New Year. Swindonian63

5:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

mrwoo wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty.

It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court.

Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon !

COYMR
Mine is a statement of fact. He either did it or didn't regardless of verdict. IDIOT!
Thank you for the compliment Mr Twitter Ta. Of course he either did it or he didn't, there is no other option. Very stupid of me not to realise this.

Of course

If he did it and is found not guilty then he is guilty.
If he did it and is found guilty then he is guilty.
If he didn't do it and he is found guilty then he is guilty.
Also if he didn't do it and he is found not guilty he will still be guilty in many eyes.

My guess is you are one of those pairs of eyes.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]You can have your opinion but in mine if he is found not guilty he is just that, not guilty. It is difficult to prove and I suspect there are only two people who know what happened but we have courts for a reason. Your opinion is also the reason why previous convictions should not be used as evidence in court. Rape is a nasty crime but an accusation can also be used as a weapon ! COYMR[/p][/quote]Mine is a statement of fact. He either did it or didn't regardless of verdict. IDIOT![/p][/quote]Thank you for the compliment Mr Twitter Ta. Of course he either did it or he didn't, there is no other option. Very stupid of me not to realise this. Of course If he did it and is found not guilty then he is guilty. If he did it and is found guilty then he is guilty. If he didn't do it and he is found guilty then he is guilty. Also if he didn't do it and he is found not guilty he will still be guilty in many eyes. My guess is you are one of those pairs of eyes. COYMR Oxon-Red

5:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

thrugelmir says...

STFC gave Nile a chance to redeem himself as a professional footballer. Bluntly put he's wasted the chance. The trial has nothing to do with his antics over the past few months. All down to personality and character. Great shame as has terrific natural ability.
STFC gave Nile a chance to redeem himself as a professional footballer. Bluntly put he's wasted the chance. The trial has nothing to do with his antics over the past few months. All down to personality and character. Great shame as has terrific natural ability. thrugelmir

5:11pm Tue 31 Dec 13

lifelong red says...

zSo it seems the nile ranger saga is about to end - good - we can all move on. On a different note , and as we enter a new year , my thoughts are with our beloved football club , and what the future holds - will it be good or bad - who knows ? Looking back over the years - yes we have had our moments - only unfortunately ,to see it all whittled away.My mind goes back to the days of the bert head babes, and promotion to the old div 2 the first in the clubs history .Then there was that great triumph at Wembley against the mighty arsenal ,followed by promotion ,sadly only to see our best players sold to be replaced by average ones - to " help balance the books" so we were told at the time . Then there was the macari - hillier era and the " under the counter payments issue" -which ultimately cost us place in the old div 1 .Then the hoddle era - yes- we achieved premiership football but alas ! we had to sell david kerslake to pay off the taxman during that promotion year , then more recently the di canio - black saga - and so it goes on .All this only emphasises how unstable the club has been over the years , a case of " lets get success no matter what " . So many false dawns . I applaud lee power when he talks of creating a " sustainable model able to stand on its own two feet ",I hope beyond all hope that he succeeds in his quest because if he does it will be the first to my knowledge . How nice it would be to cheer on a winning team
without the nagging worries of " behind the scenes issues . I long for the day when we have a stable club , well and established in the championship
with one eye on the prem, Finally well done to mark cooper and the boys yer doing a great job.
zSo it seems the nile ranger saga is about to end - good - we can all move on. On a different note , and as we enter a new year , my thoughts are with our beloved football club , and what the future holds - will it be good or bad - who knows ? Looking back over the years - yes we have had our moments - only unfortunately ,to see it all whittled away.My mind goes back to the days of the bert head babes, and promotion to the old div 2 the first in the clubs history .Then there was that great triumph at Wembley against the mighty arsenal ,followed by promotion ,sadly only to see our best players sold to be replaced by average ones - to " help balance the books" so we were told at the time . Then there was the macari - hillier era and the " under the counter payments issue" -which ultimately cost us place in the old div 1 .Then the hoddle era - yes- we achieved premiership football but alas ! we had to sell david kerslake to pay off the taxman during that promotion year , then more recently the di canio - black saga - and so it goes on .All this only emphasises how unstable the club has been over the years , a case of " lets get success no matter what " . So many false dawns . I applaud lee power when he talks of creating a " sustainable model able to stand on its own two feet ",I hope beyond all hope that he succeeds in his quest because if he does it will be the first to my knowledge . How nice it would be to cheer on a winning team without the nagging worries of " behind the scenes issues . I long for the day when we have a stable club , well and established in the championship with one eye on the prem, Finally well done to mark cooper and the boys yer doing a great job. lifelong red

5:42pm Tue 31 Dec 13

who am i says...

mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
What a complete and utter pick you. In my breath u call him a poor excuse for a person and in the next rant homophobic remarks against him. You really are a prize pr,ck.
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]What a complete and utter pick you. In my breath u call him a poor excuse for a person and in the next rant homophobic remarks against him. You really are a prize pr,ck. who am i

5:53pm Tue 31 Dec 13

who am i says...

who am i wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
Digby22 wrote:
I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment.
But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :)

Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over !
It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else !

So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be !

If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then.

Nothing to lose !
he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.
What a complete and utter pick you. In my breath u call him a poor excuse for a person and in the next rant homophobic remarks against him. You really are a prize pr,ck.
Lol for pick use pr!ck. for in my breath use in one breath. Either way your still use any expletive you like.
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Digby22[/bold] wrote: I agree with both camps - I think he could be a very good player /source of profit for us, but he is disruptive to the morale of the team at the moment. But I think there is an answer which is a compromise :) Give him time off and tell him to stay away until the trial is over ! It's only natural that this hanging over him and distracting him. Try to imagine if you were a few weeks away from a rape trial - I think you'd agree it would be very difficult to concentrate on anything else ! So, wait until after the trial. If he's found guilty then obviously he is no longer an STFC player. But if he's found innocent it just MAY be that he can relax and begin rebuilding his life, and start to be the great asset to Town that he undoubtably COULD be ! If he then continues to f*%k up then get rid of him then. Nothing to lose ![/p][/quote]he might be found not guilty, as the charge is very difficult to prove, it wouldn't however prove him innocent. He either did or he didn't whatever the verdict. I have my opinion on this poor excuse for a man.[/p][/quote]What a complete and utter pick you. In my breath u call him a poor excuse for a person and in the next rant homophobic remarks against him. You really are a prize pr,ck.[/p][/quote]Lol for pick use pr!ck. for in my breath use in one breath. Either way your still use any expletive you like. who am i

6:05pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ellory says...

Anyone else find the picture used a bit "graphic"? .. Anyway,,
Happy New Year to all. Here's to a healthy and prosperous 2014, starting at around 5pm tomorrow :-)
Anyone else find the picture used a bit "graphic"? .. Anyway,, Happy New Year to all. Here's to a healthy and prosperous 2014, starting at around 5pm tomorrow :-) ellory

6:18pm Tue 31 Dec 13

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.
Hope so.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Without Ranger Coopers days are numbered......We need goals start playing Storey.[/p][/quote]Hope so. stranglers

6:51pm Tue 31 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

Let's hope storey writes the story
Time to see how good this kid is
Let's hope storey writes the story Time to see how good this kid is smirg kcab

7:06pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Happy new year everyone including you JB may you all have prosperous new years and all your wishes come true.
Suarez, Toure, Barkley, Hazard, Giroud, Ozil, may be I should lower my wishes for Town recruits.
Happy new year everyone including you JB may you all have prosperous new years and all your wishes come true. Suarez, Toure, Barkley, Hazard, Giroud, Ozil, may be I should lower my wishes for Town recruits. Di kanny oh

7:16pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Metal Gear says...

I can understand why the club took a gamble on him he's a good player but he's messed up too many times. I'm sure his upcoming case is effecting him but as others have said he's consistently been in trouble at previous clubs long before that accusation came to light.

Instead of getting his head down and concentrating on his football he's self publicising himself on twitter. (surely staying off twitter would be wise) He seems to revel in his so called 'bad boy' or 'misunderstood' reputation. Recently tweeting a picture of his written off car on Christmas Day is just sad.

He needs to grow up the club can't help him if he doesn't show up for training. At the end of the day STFC pay his wages and if he's not turning up for training we're throwing money away. At a time when money is tight at the club you can't blame Lee Power for deciding enough is enough.
I can understand why the club took a gamble on him he's a good player but he's messed up too many times. I'm sure his upcoming case is effecting him but as others have said he's consistently been in trouble at previous clubs long before that accusation came to light. Instead of getting his head down and concentrating on his football he's self publicising himself on twitter. (surely staying off twitter would be wise) He seems to revel in his so called 'bad boy' or 'misunderstood' reputation. Recently tweeting a picture of his written off car on Christmas Day is just sad. He needs to grow up the club can't help him if he doesn't show up for training. At the end of the day STFC pay his wages and if he's not turning up for training we're throwing money away. At a time when money is tight at the club you can't blame Lee Power for deciding enough is enough. Metal Gear

8:35pm Tue 31 Dec 13

joey butler says...

hereford wrote:
The Spurs Farmer wrote:
Recall Benson.
very good choice he is doing a good job at luton scoring goals for fun and only on loan there
I agree with the views of The Spurs Farmer and also Hereford, but on reflection, I would NOT recall Paul Benson.

Having been totally walked over by PDC and not treated much better by the new regime, Paul Benson has quietly got on with things with great dignity.

As Hereford says, he is scoring for free for Luton, who have a very good chance of promotion from The Conference in a few months.

Paul Benson is one of our most genuine players of recent years and I would leave him alone in his current challenges for Luton, where he is appreciated and playing a massive part.

Happy New Year to all STFC posters on here, including DKO, Wizard, Den, Chish, Malky and of course, Steve from Brentford.

''May the road rise with you and the wind be at your back''
[quote][p][bold]hereford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Spurs Farmer[/bold] wrote: Recall Benson.[/p][/quote]very good choice he is doing a good job at luton scoring goals for fun and only on loan there[/p][/quote]I agree with the views of The Spurs Farmer and also Hereford, but on reflection, I would NOT recall Paul Benson. Having been totally walked over by PDC and not treated much better by the new regime, Paul Benson has quietly got on with things with great dignity. As Hereford says, he is scoring for free for Luton, who have a very good chance of promotion from The Conference in a few months. Paul Benson is one of our most genuine players of recent years and I would leave him alone in his current challenges for Luton, where he is appreciated and playing a massive part. Happy New Year to all STFC posters on here, including DKO, Wizard, Den, Chish, Malky and of course, Steve from Brentford. ''May the road rise with you and the wind be at your back'' joey butler

9:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

smirg kcab says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
Happy new year everyone including you JB may you all have prosperous new years and all your wishes come true.
Suarez, Toure, Barkley, Hazard, Giroud, Ozil, may be I should lower my wishes for Town recruits.
Appy new year mate to you and your family
Keep up the good debates for 2014,
3 point with miles motm will do me.
Have a great night all
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: Happy new year everyone including you JB may you all have prosperous new years and all your wishes come true. Suarez, Toure, Barkley, Hazard, Giroud, Ozil, may be I should lower my wishes for Town recruits.[/p][/quote]Appy new year mate to you and your family Keep up the good debates for 2014, 3 point with miles motm will do me. Have a great night all smirg kcab

10:34pm Tue 31 Dec 13

scooby69 says...

Good job, we don’t need this bad apple.
Fancy crashing your car on Christmas day, what a TOOL.
Glad Swindon Town are putting their foot down.
I see Sheffield United have got rid of Marlon King (also a TOOL)
Good job, we don’t need this bad apple. Fancy crashing your car on Christmas day, what a TOOL. Glad Swindon Town are putting their foot down. I see Sheffield United have got rid of Marlon King (also a TOOL) scooby69

12:22pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Steve. Brentford says...

the wizard wrote:
The Jockster wrote: Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger. You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time. So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.
Hmmmm, yes, the R is missing, savory it should be, anyway, that's it.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO Wiz are you leaving again? why do people feel the need to make a big exit if you have had enough then don`t post on here, if you feel the quality has worsened then do something about it, and if you are not getting the responses you used to then maybe just maybe it`s you and your posts that have become transparent, poor or just plain boring.
Sorry Jock me ol fruit bat but going back to previous seasons you would not have been posting very often at all because you picked and choose your games to attend admitting you wanted value for money (nothing wrong with that) now you seem to be attending a lot of away games you have changed your tune considerably.

I hate all this thumbs up and down ball lox it stops some from giving there opinion making it easy to press a button without expressing the reason you/they have an alternative view.

No more drama queens please, if you dont want to post on here then dont, sure as god made little green apples no one will shed any tears.
oh yeah happy new year by the way:O)
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wizard I've no idea what Ranger is doing getting involved with a cabbage (savoy?) lol! but I entirely agree that the quality of postings has deteriorated since the early days as I indeed said in my response to Mr Woo's outrageous homophobic comment about Ranger. You are not alone in leaving the site Stratton Red told me he very rarely posts these days due to the sheer dross and infighting found on here. I've decided to only now, if at all post on the match day threads where I've seen a game because all other threads seem to rehash the same old topics time after time. So I'll bid you adieu together with best wishes for a healthier 2014 and beyond.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm, yes, the R is missing, savory it should be, anyway, that's it.[/p][/quote]OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO Wiz are you leaving again? why do people feel the need to make a big exit if you have had enough then don`t post on here, if you feel the quality has worsened then do something about it, and if you are not getting the responses you used to then maybe just maybe it`s you and your posts that have become transparent, poor or just plain boring. Sorry Jock me ol fruit bat but going back to previous seasons you would not have been posting very often at all because you picked and choose your games to attend admitting you wanted value for money (nothing wrong with that) now you seem to be attending a lot of away games you have changed your tune considerably. I hate all this thumbs up and down ball lox it stops some from giving there opinion making it easy to press a button without expressing the reason you/they have an alternative view. No more drama queens please, if you dont want to post on here then dont, sure as god made little green apples no one will shed any tears. oh yeah happy new year by the way:O) Steve. Brentford

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