SWINDON TOWN: Former Town general manager says he did not resign board role

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Steve Murrall Steve Murrall

STEVE Murrall has claimed that he did not resign his position on the board of Swindon Town following his departure as general manager in October.

In an exclusive interview with the Advertiser, Murrall - one of the original members of Jed McCrory’s Seebeck 87 Ltd consortium which took over the club in February - suggests he was pressured out of his day-to-day role at the County Ground earlier than planned and stripped of his directorship without due process.

Murrall’s exit from the club, which occurred on October 25 but was not made official until October 31 and remained unconfirmed by the club until November 7, was billed as giving the former GM the chance to work on personal projects - but Murrall has now stressed he was not made aware of the full extent of his departure.

“I walked away from my job as general manager because pressure was put on me to do so,” he said. “I was going to leave at Christmas anyway but pressure was put on me (to leave) earlier, which I did, but at no stage did I agree to resign from the board.

“I was quite surprised to see that I was no longer a board member.

“I was put under pressure to resign as general manager, which I did, and I tried to do it in a dignified and nice way. However, all of a sudden I was not on the board either and I did not resign from the board.

“To resign from the board you’d need a board meeting and a resolution from the board, or they’d have had to have had my resignation in writing. No one has ever had my resignation in writing.

“I’ll admit that I did walk away from the general manager’s job under pressure to do so even though I’d agreed in principle to work until the end of the year.”

The events of last Friday, during which a club statement stating Lee Power had assumed control of Town’s majority shareholding was later retracted amongst claim and counter-claim, have left many fans wondering what really is going on behind closed doors at the County Ground.

Murrall disputes some of the figures stated in the statement, which claimed Power had invested £1.2million to lift the club out of embargo in March and a further £1million since.

“The initial £1.2million was a loan to Jed that he put into the club and was paid back within 10 days to where it came from. There is definitely nowhere near £1million gone into the club up until the end of October. There was circa £500,000 that had gone in,” he said.

“That’s not a small figure by any stretch but nowhere near the figures that are being claimed.

“I can’t believe there has been another half a million put in in the last month, but the £1.2million was paid back anyway. From my understanding that was a loan to Jed that was then paid back by Jed.

“I think it’s important to remember that when we got there there wasn’t tons of cash lying around, we didn’t start selling season tickets until March. Everything up until the end of May is covered by the audit anyway.

“I’m out of the loop now. I can only talk about up until October 24 when I walked away as general manager.”

Murrall also mentioned a personal “list of concerns” which he has sent via email to chairman McCrory, though he would not be drawn to comment on its contents.

“I’ve also pointed out to Jed a few issues that came to my attention as general manager,” he said.

“I hadn’t brought them up with Jed beforehand purely because I was concerned about Jed. I knew he had some health issues so I was a little concerned about bringing them up. However, I have detailed those to Jed since my departure as general manager.

“I would expect he’d want to look at those until he made any further changes to the way things are.

“Unless the facts are actually known and the truth is known then there are a lot of theories and conspiracy theories going on that really don’t add up.”

Murrall responded to suggestions a number of major and minor creditors have gone unpaid in recent months by saying: “Back in June and July we did have payment plans with quite a number of people. I haven’t been there for five or six weeks and I wouldn’t be able to comment on whether people are being paid at this moment in time.

“There were a lot of people chasing for money back in October so I’d like to think those people now have some kind of payment plan or are being paid.

“That would surely be part of the investments that need to be made - it’s not just about paying the wages it’s about paying the commitments as well.

“They had payment plans when I was general manager, whether those payment plans are being kept to I can’t comment on but if people aren’t being paid it’s obviously down to those people to take it up with the club.”

Murrall recently posted on an internet forum, claiming he worked 14 hours a day, seven days a week in an effort to push Swindon towards sustainability during his six months on the board.

Now, however, he feels the club is making backwards steps.

“Regardless of what people think and what people say and what comments are made, I and Jed and everybody who’s been there - including Lee - have put a lot of work in to get the club to where it was,” he said.

“I feel as though it has gone backwards over the last six weeks. I know the football’s not too bad but from where we were, when we walked into a club losing an awful lot of money a month, we worked very hard to get it right.

“Me, the team there, the team that are still there - it’s not fair on them, it’s not fair that there is this uncertainty. I think it’s important that we have some clarity on what’s what and people understand it.”

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6:12am Tue 3 Dec 13

port de soller says...

wow there you go.stfc in the cart yet again,as I said we need REAL MONEYand quick otherwise this time I do fear administration
wow there you go.stfc in the cart yet again,as I said we need REAL MONEYand quick otherwise this time I do fear administration port de soller

6:23am Tue 3 Dec 13

igiwigi says...

What do you expect .
There venture capitalists.
What do you expect . There venture capitalists. igiwigi

6:23am Tue 3 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject.
This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday.

Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though. Chish and Fips

6:23am Tue 3 Dec 13

igiwigi says...

If It does not work ,they will be gone.
If It does not work ,they will be gone. igiwigi

6:41am Tue 3 Dec 13

stfc2012 says...

igiwigi wrote:
If It does not work ,they will be gone.
If what?
[quote][p][bold]igiwigi[/bold] wrote: If It does not work ,they will be gone.[/p][/quote]If what? stfc2012

6:45am Tue 3 Dec 13

jedthered says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club. jedthered

6:47am Tue 3 Dec 13

who am i says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject.
This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday.

Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about?
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about? who am i

6:55am Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

who am i wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject.
This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday.

Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about?
Please let's not have any more publicity for that numpty. There've been many wind up merchants over the years and none have ever proven themselves to be in the least bit credible.

From the article it would appear there may be a lot going wrong off the field, however we're only getting one side of the story. The club need to act fast to explain what's going on - releasing then immediately retracting a statement about the clubs ownership recently has just confused things further.
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about?[/p][/quote]Please let's not have any more publicity for that numpty. There've been many wind up merchants over the years and none have ever proven themselves to be in the least bit credible. From the article it would appear there may be a lot going wrong off the field, however we're only getting one side of the story. The club need to act fast to explain what's going on - releasing then immediately retracting a statement about the clubs ownership recently has just confused things further. Swindon1984

6:56am Tue 3 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in.
If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear.
I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self. Chish and Fips

7:06am Tue 3 Dec 13

Paul12001 says...

You have to ask the question why he was forced out though.............t
here IS more to this than meets the eye! Perhaps now he has had his say, the other side to the story and as to why he was forced out will come out.......
You have to ask the question why he was forced out though.............t here IS more to this than meets the eye! Perhaps now he has had his say, the other side to the story and as to why he was forced out will come out....... Paul12001

7:09am Tue 3 Dec 13

jayden says...

Enjoy the last few games that you will see Wes in goal because he will have to be sold ,shame but that's life at Swindon Town FC .
Enjoy the last few games that you will see Wes in goal because he will have to be sold ,shame but that's life at Swindon Town FC . jayden

7:11am Tue 3 Dec 13

jedthered says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth.
So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!!
Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate. jedthered

7:24am Tue 3 Dec 13

fredi says...

Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ?

Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.
Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth. fredi

7:24am Tue 3 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth.
So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!!
Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board)
Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print.
Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me. Chish and Fips

7:34am Tue 3 Dec 13

Brainy_G93 says...

I heard from a source connected to the club that Bournemouth have placed an offer for Wes of £350k. They were told when you can come back with £500k he's yours.
I heard from a source connected to the club that Bournemouth have placed an offer for Wes of £350k. They were told when you can come back with £500k he's yours. Brainy_G93

7:48am Tue 3 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

who am i wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject.
This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday.

Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about?
Yes WAI I think it was a 2+2 =5 on my behalf - still it gives one or two the opportunity to have a pop at me again.. ho hum !!
[quote][p][bold]who am i[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]i doubt it as fredi named murrall as one of the people who has taken money out of stfc. once again fredi was right when he said murrall was sacked. what else is fredi right about?[/p][/quote]Yes WAI I think it was a 2+2 =5 on my behalf - still it gives one or two the opportunity to have a pop at me again.. ho hum !! Chish and Fips

7:50am Tue 3 Dec 13

jedthered says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.
Chish , the trouble is this board tries to keep everything under wraps and when a crack appears they try to paper over them and hope they will dissappear, but the cracks are getting bigger and no matter how much bull***t is spouted the cracks are getting to big and little by little more and more information is surfacing and it is not showing this board in a good light. there is a little saying and i quote " when crooks fall out"
I, like you, only want the best for my club and if it means chipping away until all the truth is out then so be it
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.[/p][/quote]Chish , the trouble is this board tries to keep everything under wraps and when a crack appears they try to paper over them and hope they will dissappear, but the cracks are getting bigger and no matter how much bull***t is spouted the cracks are getting to big and little by little more and more information is surfacing and it is not showing this board in a good light. there is a little saying and i quote " when crooks fall out" I, like you, only want the best for my club and if it means chipping away until all the truth is out then so be it jedthered

7:56am Tue 3 Dec 13

Chish and Fips says...

jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.
Chish , the trouble is this board tries to keep everything under wraps and when a crack appears they try to paper over them and hope they will dissappear, but the cracks are getting bigger and no matter how much bull***t is spouted the cracks are getting to big and little by little more and more information is surfacing and it is not showing this board in a good light. there is a little saying and i quote " when crooks fall out"
I, like you, only want the best for my club and if it means chipping away until all the truth is out then so be it
I think we got slightly off on the wrong foot this morning Jedthered so I apologise for my aggressive reply.
It is just I'm concerned like you, and also concerned that rumours and chinese whispers can cause a lot more damage than the initial problem. Maybe not in this case but we just don't know.
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.[/p][/quote]Chish , the trouble is this board tries to keep everything under wraps and when a crack appears they try to paper over them and hope they will dissappear, but the cracks are getting bigger and no matter how much bull***t is spouted the cracks are getting to big and little by little more and more information is surfacing and it is not showing this board in a good light. there is a little saying and i quote " when crooks fall out" I, like you, only want the best for my club and if it means chipping away until all the truth is out then so be it[/p][/quote]I think we got slightly off on the wrong foot this morning Jedthered so I apologise for my aggressive reply. It is just I'm concerned like you, and also concerned that rumours and chinese whispers can cause a lot more damage than the initial problem. Maybe not in this case but we just don't know. Chish and Fips

7:59am Tue 3 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....
Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead..... Wilesy

8:08am Tue 3 Dec 13

umpcah says...

Wilesy wrote:
Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....
I`m trying to keep an open mind but it`s obvious that STFC is not ticking in the way it should. Fingers firmly crossed !
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....[/p][/quote]I`m trying to keep an open mind but it`s obvious that STFC is not ticking in the way it should. Fingers firmly crossed ! umpcah

8:19am Tue 3 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

fredi wrote:
Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ?

Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.
Are you after another exclusive interview Sam ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]fredi[/bold] wrote: Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.[/p][/quote]Are you after another exclusive interview Sam ? COYMR Oxon-Red

8:32am Tue 3 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO
Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO 6degreessouth

8:34am Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon89 says...

So Steve Murrall did not resign from the board, he was pushed out, exactly as Fredi said yesterday. Why Sam's article above doesn't even question WHY he was pushed out I don't know, as you would think that is the million dollar question. Is Fredi right again, that payments were being made without Lee Power's knowledge? Sadly this fails to clear that up.

However, the interview does pretty much confirm that STFC is in an absolute state, creditors are not being paid, and quite frankly I do not trust any of them one iota.

McCrory might of won a few over with his 'in it together lads' lark, but he's at best totally stupid and at worst ruining our football club.

Do I trust Lee Power's intentions or business acumen? Not really, but at the moment he's the one with the money. Without him, or another investor, then we're surely heading to administration.
So Steve Murrall did not resign from the board, he was pushed out, exactly as Fredi said yesterday. Why Sam's article above doesn't even question WHY he was pushed out I don't know, as you would think that is the million dollar question. Is Fredi right again, that payments were being made without Lee Power's knowledge? Sadly this fails to clear that up. However, the interview does pretty much confirm that STFC is in an absolute state, creditors are not being paid, and quite frankly I do not trust any of them one iota. McCrory might of won a few over with his 'in it together lads' lark, but he's at best totally stupid and at worst ruining our football club. Do I trust Lee Power's intentions or business acumen? Not really, but at the moment he's the one with the money. Without him, or another investor, then we're surely heading to administration. Swindon89

8:36am Tue 3 Dec 13

port de soller says...

Wes to go in Jan?????STFC skint/creditors knocking at the door etc.
Why do the Fans bother from what I see they are filling the coffers of jed and coy.They seen a great opportunity,club for nothing good gate revenue,debts cleared,Since day one i fera the STFC fan has been lead up the garden path.
truth is if noby turned up for home games they will be going or are they waiting for a rip off from the sale of WES.I have no idea if rumours are true,yet something aint right
is so so sad looks as if STFC days are numbered unless the club gets rid of LP and jed and find a real money man
Fitton please come back
Wes to go in Jan?????STFC skint/creditors knocking at the door etc. Why do the Fans bother from what I see they are filling the coffers of jed and coy.They seen a great opportunity,club for nothing good gate revenue,debts cleared,Since day one i fera the STFC fan has been lead up the garden path. truth is if noby turned up for home games they will be going or are they waiting for a rip off from the sale of WES.I have no idea if rumours are true,yet something aint right is so so sad looks as if STFC days are numbered unless the club gets rid of LP and jed and find a real money man Fitton please come back port de soller

8:37am Tue 3 Dec 13

umpcah says...

6degreessouth wrote:
Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO
It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance !
[quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO[/p][/quote]It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance ! umpcah

8:38am Tue 3 Dec 13

Rgbargee says...

I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner.
If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid.
We need help..now.
I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner. If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid. We need help..now. Rgbargee

8:39am Tue 3 Dec 13

Brian Hillier's Ghost says...

I wish the Adver had the guts to dig more & print some real truth. Seems they're more worried about upsetting Billy Jed & getting barred.
It's obvious to intelligent fans that 'buy you a pint / build a bar' Billy is not doing this for nowt & is helping himself to the fans money we've paid into STFC for our tickets.
Just go for it Sam you podgy so and so!
I wish the Adver had the guts to dig more & print some real truth. Seems they're more worried about upsetting Billy Jed & getting barred. It's obvious to intelligent fans that 'buy you a pint / build a bar' Billy is not doing this for nowt & is helping himself to the fans money we've paid into STFC for our tickets. Just go for it Sam you podgy so and so! Brian Hillier's Ghost

8:47am Tue 3 Dec 13

harley red says...

Oh Sh!T here we go again
Oh Sh!T here we go again harley red

8:48am Tue 3 Dec 13

umpcah says...

Rgbargee wrote:
I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner.
If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid.
We need help..now.
" I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested " We have all wished that Mr. Moneybags would fancy STFC for a bit of investment but alas this bloke is a very long shot away. I expect dear Andrew is now glad to be clear of the club and who can blame him ? I wish I could be more cheerful today !
[quote][p][bold]Rgbargee[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner. If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid. We need help..now.[/p][/quote]" I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested " We have all wished that Mr. Moneybags would fancy STFC for a bit of investment but alas this bloke is a very long shot away. I expect dear Andrew is now glad to be clear of the club and who can blame him ? I wish I could be more cheerful today ! umpcah

8:54am Tue 3 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

umpcah wrote:
6degreessouth wrote:
Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO
It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance !
Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!!

Keep the faith lads.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO[/p][/quote]It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance ![/p][/quote]Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!! Keep the faith lads. 6degreessouth

8:55am Tue 3 Dec 13

Cookie43 says...

Wellcome to STFC World!!
Ohh what fun to be a town fan!
If Wes has to be sold please not to Bornmuff
Do not think i could cope with the likes of those thick trolls coming on here to gloat!!
Wellcome to STFC World!! Ohh what fun to be a town fan! If Wes has to be sold please not to Bornmuff Do not think i could cope with the likes of those thick trolls coming on here to gloat!! Cookie43

8:59am Tue 3 Dec 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

I hope that I am wrong, but the only way I can see this club being sold to credible owners is via the dredded A word, we had interested parties that wanted the club before. I personally think that Power wants the club himself and may be able to bring in some decent investors, but lets face it, invest in what !! you will never make money on Town, if you look at the guy who owns Cheltenham, he puts around 500k in every year just to keep them healthy and running as a business, he does it because its his club and he loves it, we need a Swindon fan to win 300million on the euro lotto and buy the club for love....
I hope that I am wrong, but the only way I can see this club being sold to credible owners is via the dredded A word, we had interested parties that wanted the club before. I personally think that Power wants the club himself and may be able to bring in some decent investors, but lets face it, invest in what !! you will never make money on Town, if you look at the guy who owns Cheltenham, he puts around 500k in every year just to keep them healthy and running as a business, he does it because its his club and he loves it, we need a Swindon fan to win 300million on the euro lotto and buy the club for love.... Is that you Lovesey

9:03am Tue 3 Dec 13

umpcah says...

6degreessouth wrote:
umpcah wrote:
6degreessouth wrote:
Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO
It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance !
Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!!

Keep the faith lads.
Keep the faith ? I could keep some if I was sure of the integrity of the Board members. Remember Cecil Green ? I wish someone like him was currently involved ! Ah well there`s always Supermarine ! COME ON YOU SOUPS !
[quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO[/p][/quote]It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance ![/p][/quote]Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!! Keep the faith lads.[/p][/quote]Keep the faith ? I could keep some if I was sure of the integrity of the Board members. Remember Cecil Green ? I wish someone like him was currently involved ! Ah well there`s always Supermarine ! COME ON YOU SOUPS ! umpcah

9:04am Tue 3 Dec 13

bradley red 1 says...

In a ideal scenario who ever is the owner should sell up and get out of the club new investors/owners but as i said in a ideal world!,too many lies and making up as they go along= administration! but i am sure jed will be telling his followers on twitter that we are in it together and how well the club is doing!
In a ideal scenario who ever is the owner should sell up and get out of the club new investors/owners but as i said in a ideal world!,too many lies and making up as they go along= administration! but i am sure jed will be telling his followers on twitter that we are in it together and how well the club is doing! bradley red 1

9:07am Tue 3 Dec 13

Bassett Hound says...

umpcah wrote:
6degreessouth wrote:
umpcah wrote:
6degreessouth wrote:
Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO
It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance !
Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!!

Keep the faith lads.
Keep the faith ? I could keep some if I was sure of the integrity of the Board members. Remember Cecil Green ? I wish someone like him was currently involved ! Ah well there`s always Supermarine ! COME ON YOU SOUPS !
Cecil Green, Lovely man umpcah
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]6degreessouth[/bold] wrote: Oh sh1t, not good. I do fear for our great club. I dont think a statement from Jed or co would do ay good in my eyes, sorry, but I just dont beleive a word they say. IMO[/p][/quote]It`s League One footie at the CG at present so let`s all watch it while we have the chance ![/p][/quote]Umpcah very true, I just wish we had a bit of money and a bit of stability for once. People are calling for a cash rich investor but thats not as easy as some think, L1 footie is not the best place to invest ones cash and investors are not kicking the CG doors down to hand over large amounts of cash. Another roller coaster in the making me thinks, Oh happy days!! Keep the faith lads.[/p][/quote]Keep the faith ? I could keep some if I was sure of the integrity of the Board members. Remember Cecil Green ? I wish someone like him was currently involved ! Ah well there`s always Supermarine ! COME ON YOU SOUPS ![/p][/quote]Cecil Green, Lovely man umpcah Bassett Hound

9:14am Tue 3 Dec 13

NEWBURYREDS says...

Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT?
Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT? NEWBURYREDS

9:21am Tue 3 Dec 13

umpcah says...

NEWBURYREDS wrote:
Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT?
Christmastime editions are usually good ! Watch the space !
[quote][p][bold]NEWBURYREDS[/bold] wrote: Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT?[/p][/quote]Christmastime editions are usually good ! Watch the space ! umpcah

9:29am Tue 3 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth.
So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!!
Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board)
Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print.
Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.
Jeez Chish how much more "proof" do you want - I was poo-pooed for suggesting the lecky bill hadn't been paid- then we have Mitted and a few others citing examples of creditors not being paid, Murrell confirms that there were/still are problems paying suppliers and yet you still refuse to accept that all is not well?
As Fredi says will Shah now retract her solvency quote because that statement is clearly getting more iffy by the day.
BTW I'm happy to accept apologies from all those who slated me for saying there was "trouble at mill" re paying people because there clearly was/is eh?
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]Isn't there another side to be heard from this conversation before the accused is ' hung, drawn and quartered.' (the Board) Whilst you smell bullsh!t - I also believe in seeing the facts before making my decision, and certainly will be very guarded about putting any accusations in print. Whether we ever do see all the facts is another question -- which will leave it in limbo, and you'll be even more wound up than me.[/p][/quote]Jeez Chish how much more "proof" do you want - I was poo-pooed for suggesting the lecky bill hadn't been paid- then we have Mitted and a few others citing examples of creditors not being paid, Murrell confirms that there were/still are problems paying suppliers and yet you still refuse to accept that all is not well? As Fredi says will Shah now retract her solvency quote because that statement is clearly getting more iffy by the day. BTW I'm happy to accept apologies from all those who slated me for saying there was "trouble at mill" re paying people because there clearly was/is eh? The Jockster

9:30am Tue 3 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

NEWBURYREDS wrote:
Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT?
Newburyreds, 'Sheik Al Bin Loads of Money' arrives at the County Ground with £50 million cash only to realise our burgers are not Halal ! Just our luck
[quote][p][bold]NEWBURYREDS[/bold] wrote: Supporting our wonderful club is like watching all the soaps on tv rolled into one - WHAT NEXT?[/p][/quote]Newburyreds, 'Sheik Al Bin Loads of Money' arrives at the County Ground with £50 million cash only to realise our burgers are not Halal ! Just our luck 6degreessouth

9:34am Tue 3 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Wilesy wrote:
Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....
Finally you've seen the light :)
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....[/p][/quote]Finally you've seen the light :) The Jockster

9:38am Tue 3 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

port de soller wrote:
Wes to go in Jan?????STFC skint/creditors knocking at the door etc.
Why do the Fans bother from what I see they are filling the coffers of jed and coy.They seen a great opportunity,club for nothing good gate revenue,debts cleared,Since day one i fera the STFC fan has been lead up the garden path.
truth is if noby turned up for home games they will be going or are they waiting for a rip off from the sale of WES.I have no idea if rumours are true,yet something aint right
is so so sad looks as if STFC days are numbered unless the club gets rid of LP and jed and find a real money man
Fitton please come back
Still p!ssed on the sangria then I see Stuie :)
[quote][p][bold]port de soller[/bold] wrote: Wes to go in Jan?????STFC skint/creditors knocking at the door etc. Why do the Fans bother from what I see they are filling the coffers of jed and coy.They seen a great opportunity,club for nothing good gate revenue,debts cleared,Since day one i fera the STFC fan has been lead up the garden path. truth is if noby turned up for home games they will be going or are they waiting for a rip off from the sale of WES.I have no idea if rumours are true,yet something aint right is so so sad looks as if STFC days are numbered unless the club gets rid of LP and jed and find a real money man Fitton please come back[/p][/quote]Still p!ssed on the sangria then I see Stuie :) The Jockster

9:40am Tue 3 Dec 13

Old Town says...

fredi wrote:
Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ?

Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.
Fredi - why would she want to retract her statement ? Who says the club is NOT financially robust ? It's not a "revelation" about the £1.2M is it ? The money was ALWAYS a short term loan to prove to the FL we had the funding SHOULD IT BE NECESSARY - which it obviously wasn't - it's standard practice and all above board - so why make more of it than there is ?

Of course Steve Murrall et al would want to be paid - if I spent 50+ hours trying to run a football club (or any other job) I would want to be paid - again whats wrong with that ?

I don't know about you - but I always wait until the Red Bill comes from the utility company before I pay it - sometimes they send me "threatening" letters before I pay - I would rather my money be in my bank account than theirs !

What is it that you have been "proved right" about ?

I see a lot of inflammatory comments but not much in the way of anything else - it's easy to put 2 and 2 together and make 5 - it's also just as easy the other way round to shoot your claims down in flames !
[quote][p][bold]fredi[/bold] wrote: Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.[/p][/quote]Fredi - why would she want to retract her statement ? Who says the club is NOT financially robust ? It's not a "revelation" about the £1.2M is it ? The money was ALWAYS a short term loan to prove to the FL we had the funding SHOULD IT BE NECESSARY - which it obviously wasn't - it's standard practice and all above board - so why make more of it than there is ? Of course Steve Murrall et al would want to be paid - if I spent 50+ hours trying to run a football club (or any other job) I would want to be paid - again whats wrong with that ? I don't know about you - but I always wait until the Red Bill comes from the utility company before I pay it - sometimes they send me "threatening" letters before I pay - I would rather my money be in my bank account than theirs ! What is it that you have been "proved right" about ? I see a lot of inflammatory comments but not much in the way of anything else - it's easy to put 2 and 2 together and make 5 - it's also just as easy the other way round to shoot your claims down in flames ! Old Town

9:45am Tue 3 Dec 13

the wizard says...

I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain.

All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.
I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain. All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in. the wizard

9:56am Tue 3 Dec 13

Wilesy says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wilesy wrote: Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....
Finally you've seen the light :)
For the first time we have hard official evidence of all not being well at the CG. Previously it has been 'the Adver understands' or 'sources within'.

But you are right I am now firmly in the suspicious camp, how can anyone not be when an ex Director comes out with these sorts of comments.

This does not look good at all. What on earth is going on at the club it sounds an absolute shambles!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: Uh-oh. Looks like there may be trouble ahead.....[/p][/quote]Finally you've seen the light :)[/p][/quote]For the first time we have hard official evidence of all not being well at the CG. Previously it has been 'the Adver understands' or 'sources within'. But you are right I am now firmly in the suspicious camp, how can anyone not be when an ex Director comes out with these sorts of comments. This does not look good at all. What on earth is going on at the club it sounds an absolute shambles! Wilesy

9:58am Tue 3 Dec 13

Redgollum says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
I hope that I am wrong, but the only way I can see this club being sold to credible owners is via the dredded A word, we had interested parties that wanted the club before. I personally think that Power wants the club himself and may be able to bring in some decent investors, but lets face it, invest in what !! you will never make money on Town, if you look at the guy who owns Cheltenham, he puts around 500k in every year just to keep them healthy and running as a business, he does it because its his club and he loves it, we need a Swindon fan to win 300million on the euro lotto and buy the club for love....
I would volunteer to be that guy! Mind you, it would help if I bought a ticket!
I don't understand any of this, but then I am just a football fan.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: I hope that I am wrong, but the only way I can see this club being sold to credible owners is via the dredded A word, we had interested parties that wanted the club before. I personally think that Power wants the club himself and may be able to bring in some decent investors, but lets face it, invest in what !! you will never make money on Town, if you look at the guy who owns Cheltenham, he puts around 500k in every year just to keep them healthy and running as a business, he does it because its his club and he loves it, we need a Swindon fan to win 300million on the euro lotto and buy the club for love....[/p][/quote]I would volunteer to be that guy! Mind you, it would help if I bought a ticket! I don't understand any of this, but then I am just a football fan. Redgollum

10:01am Tue 3 Dec 13

Since 1950 says...

Never trusted this lot with our club from day one. I started to get taken in in recent weeks with the effort that was being put in on the pitch - in the main.

This doesn't make for good reading again. I can see a fire sale in January with more than just Wes heading for the exit and a battle to stay in League 1 for the rest of the season. It really isn't easy being a Town Fan!

COYR!
Never trusted this lot with our club from day one. I started to get taken in in recent weeks with the effort that was being put in on the pitch - in the main. This doesn't make for good reading again. I can see a fire sale in January with more than just Wes heading for the exit and a battle to stay in League 1 for the rest of the season. It really isn't easy being a Town Fan! COYR! Since 1950

10:01am Tue 3 Dec 13

the don69 says...

Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!!
Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!! the don69

10:02am Tue 3 Dec 13

Stilloyal says...

BREAKING NEWS OWERIS THE NEW OWNER OF STFC
BREAKING NEWS OWERIS THE NEW OWNER OF STFC Stilloyal

10:02am Tue 3 Dec 13

Another view says...

Well said, Wiz. One thing we all have in common is we're concerned about the issues going on at our club. Shouldn't the Adver be asking some of the questions that are being asked on this forum?
Well said, Wiz. One thing we all have in common is we're concerned about the issues going on at our club. Shouldn't the Adver be asking some of the questions that are being asked on this forum? Another view

10:13am Tue 3 Dec 13

6degreessouth says...

So its official 'LP is the new owner'

Hmmmmm
So its official 'LP is the new owner' Hmmmmm 6degreessouth

10:14am Tue 3 Dec 13

Stilloyal says...

Meant Power is new owner
Meant Power is new owner Stilloyal

10:19am Tue 3 Dec 13

Since 1950 says...

the don69 wrote:
Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!!
Trouble is there are two people claiming to be in charge of the club at the moment. Are you telling me they are both telling the truth? We also have a former Director who, it was claimed by the board, had resigned. We have been told from the horses mouth that that is not true either. That is the truth of the matter for all to see.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Trouble is there are two people claiming to be in charge of the club at the moment. Are you telling me they are both telling the truth? We also have a former Director who, it was claimed by the board, had resigned. We have been told from the horses mouth that that is not true either. That is the truth of the matter for all to see. Since 1950

10:22am Tue 3 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

Power has taken over the club and its in black and white so means its true. All this speculating is fine but also damaging the club we all support and its been a salvo of points scoring for too many posters. No I do not trust McCrory and never confessed in doing so but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage and sure enough if they were up to no good then they would ultimately get found out. Whilst some posters take great pleasure in the "I told you so" the facts are that we may well never ever find out the truth and until the facts are published in black and white I will support the club and the board. This does not mean I like the board but I actually realize unlike some that we have no alternative do we? If Jed tells lies then surely he will be found out but all this carp on here today lambasting fans like myself and Chish and others really is pathetic and also distorting of the true facts none of us as I can recall have openly said we totally trust this board and believe every word they say and if you think we have then give us proof please.
Power has taken over the club and its in black and white so means its true. All this speculating is fine but also damaging the club we all support and its been a salvo of points scoring for too many posters. No I do not trust McCrory and never confessed in doing so but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage and sure enough if they were up to no good then they would ultimately get found out. Whilst some posters take great pleasure in the "I told you so" the facts are that we may well never ever find out the truth and until the facts are published in black and white I will support the club and the board. This does not mean I like the board but I actually realize unlike some that we have no alternative do we? If Jed tells lies then surely he will be found out but all this carp on here today lambasting fans like myself and Chish and others really is pathetic and also distorting of the true facts none of us as I can recall have openly said we totally trust this board and believe every word they say and if you think we have then give us proof please. Di kanny oh

10:26am Tue 3 Dec 13

uruguay whitey the red says...

if u listened to the tripe that jed comes out with whilst boozing with the `riffraff`in the pub after matches!!,the companies providing the help for the pitch have been chasing payments since july,nearly everything and body has been outsourced from the club!.spurs must be wondering what they have got themselves mixed up in.myopic town fans please see through these total shysters,donnegan,bl
atchley,brady,those portugeezers,kingswo
od,diamandis-wow we certainly enjoy getting into bed with devils!!
if u listened to the tripe that jed comes out with whilst boozing with the `riffraff`in the pub after matches!!,the companies providing the help for the pitch have been chasing payments since july,nearly everything and body has been outsourced from the club!.spurs must be wondering what they have got themselves mixed up in.myopic town fans please see through these total shysters,donnegan,bl atchley,brady,those portugeezers,kingswo od,diamandis-wow we certainly enjoy getting into bed with devils!! uruguay whitey the red

10:28am Tue 3 Dec 13

the don69 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!!
Trouble is there are two people claiming to be in charge of the club at the moment. Are you telling me they are both telling the truth? We also have a former Director who, it was claimed by the board, had resigned. We have been told from the horses mouth that that is not true either. That is the truth of the matter for all to see.
Power is the new owner now,so he needs to do a q/a with the fans!!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Jed has said costs are under control and the club has a solid base to kick on,Shah says the club is financially robust!so what are we saying chaps,both are bare faced liars?Jed also said things have been blown out of all proportion and the club is fine,he blames social media for stirring things up and Shah is very well respected in the financial world,I don't know the truth and I don't think any other poster does,so unless their both bare faced liars and crooks,it's just a case of keeping very vigilant and hoping Sam can do his job and dig deep!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Trouble is there are two people claiming to be in charge of the club at the moment. Are you telling me they are both telling the truth? We also have a former Director who, it was claimed by the board, had resigned. We have been told from the horses mouth that that is not true either. That is the truth of the matter for all to see.[/p][/quote]Power is the new owner now,so he needs to do a q/a with the fans!! the don69

10:33am Tue 3 Dec 13

the wizard says...

Stilloyal wrote:
Meant Power is new owner
Yes, indeed, thanks for that. I have just read the front page news.

For the rest of you here is the link,

http://www.swindonad
vertiser.co.uk/sport
/10850921.Town_relea
se_statement_regardi
ng_club_ownership/?r
ef=var_0

So much for all the 5hyte circulating for the last few days. I suppose all the old chestnuts about Power will start to re surface.
I do consider that some here thrive on doom and gloom, just wish them well and hope they go back packing and take it all with them in a rucksack, where it belongs.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: Meant Power is new owner[/p][/quote]Yes, indeed, thanks for that. I have just read the front page news. For the rest of you here is the link, http://www.swindonad vertiser.co.uk/sport /10850921.Town_relea se_statement_regardi ng_club_ownership/?r ef=var_0 So much for all the 5hyte circulating for the last few days. I suppose all the old chestnuts about Power will start to re surface. I do consider that some here thrive on doom and gloom, just wish them well and hope they go back packing and take it all with them in a rucksack, where it belongs. the wizard

10:36am Tue 3 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth.
So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!!
Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
jedthered whilst you are entitled to your opinion where has it been said that Chish and myself have openly said we believe in every word that Jed and Co say and if you think we have then provide proof please because talk about contradiction, its ok for you to accuse Jed and Co of lies but you are doing the same. I have never ever said that I trust Jed or believe every word he says and in fact no I do not trust them but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage the club. We have no alternative as I see it but all this constant accusations thrown at the board is not doing any of us any good and if they were up to no good then surely they would get found out and the football league would act accordingly. All this point scoring is pathetic let alone distortion of the truth hey? pot kettle.
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]jedthered whilst you are entitled to your opinion where has it been said that Chish and myself have openly said we believe in every word that Jed and Co say and if you think we have then provide proof please because talk about contradiction, its ok for you to accuse Jed and Co of lies but you are doing the same. I have never ever said that I trust Jed or believe every word he says and in fact no I do not trust them but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage the club. We have no alternative as I see it but all this constant accusations thrown at the board is not doing any of us any good and if they were up to no good then surely they would get found out and the football league would act accordingly. All this point scoring is pathetic let alone distortion of the truth hey? pot kettle. Di kanny oh

11:12am Tue 3 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain.

All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.
Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC?
Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain. All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.[/p][/quote]Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC? Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps? The Jockster

11:45am Tue 3 Dec 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain.

All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.
Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC?
Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps?
Which suppliers and their names please, amounts would be useful to get an accurate picture. Does it matter now, Power has taken over and again will probably inject more cash. I don't know that for sure but its a possibility.
A few months back we were staring admin in the face and probably demotion. jed staved that off, nobody else was prepared to take the club on.
I've never said that I was "in love" with Jed, but he has cleared out a lot of dross, and nobody can deny that. At least he has tried to sort things out, although my thoughts are he has bitten of more than he could chew with this club. His bravado carried him through the early days but the millstone of this money pit of a club has probably been responsible for him becoming ill. Stress is a silent killer as people cannot see it. this club has been in and out of admin and embargo for years, yet nobody was slagging Black off when he mispent through his Chairmen millions of pounds. Rich men they may have been, but they clearly didn't have a clue on how to run this club in profit, they just wrote cheques and wrote off millions of pounds of debt. Seems Power has been trying to do the same. Quite why some people here will not name names, don't quantify the figures outstanding or name the companies owed. I don't doubt that the club may have bills owing, most companies do. I respect the views of others, but that doesn't mean they right or wrong, but I do object to some trying to brain wash and brow beat others into submission because their mates third cousins uncle heard something in a pub so it must be right.

Jock, if it is right, correct and true then it will be published, then we will all see the the facts, then those that said so can feel good about it.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain. All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.[/p][/quote]Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC? Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps?[/p][/quote]Which suppliers and their names please, amounts would be useful to get an accurate picture. Does it matter now, Power has taken over and again will probably inject more cash. I don't know that for sure but its a possibility. A few months back we were staring admin in the face and probably demotion. jed staved that off, nobody else was prepared to take the club on. I've never said that I was "in love" with Jed, but he has cleared out a lot of dross, and nobody can deny that. At least he has tried to sort things out, although my thoughts are he has bitten of more than he could chew with this club. His bravado carried him through the early days but the millstone of this money pit of a club has probably been responsible for him becoming ill. Stress is a silent killer as people cannot see it. this club has been in and out of admin and embargo for years, yet nobody was slagging Black off when he mispent through his Chairmen millions of pounds. Rich men they may have been, but they clearly didn't have a clue on how to run this club in profit, they just wrote cheques and wrote off millions of pounds of debt. Seems Power has been trying to do the same. Quite why some people here will not name names, don't quantify the figures outstanding or name the companies owed. I don't doubt that the club may have bills owing, most companies do. I respect the views of others, but that doesn't mean they right or wrong, but I do object to some trying to brain wash and brow beat others into submission because their mates third cousins uncle heard something in a pub so it must be right. Jock, if it is right, correct and true then it will be published, then we will all see the the facts, then those that said so can feel good about it. the wizard

12:15pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Rgbargee wrote:
I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner. If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid. We need help..now.
Fitton RED I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Rgbargee[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised at all at the goings on. I have for some time said we need "real money" to be invested. Jed and Co are not able to finance a football club without some help so a priority should be to attract a cashed up investor/s or a new owner. If Andrew Fitton still reads this board I implore him to put together a group of investors and make a takeover bid. We need help..now.[/p][/quote]Fitton RED I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! COYMR Oxon-Red

12:27pm Tue 3 Dec 13

The Jockster says...

Wiz - why do you need it to be so b&w? You are entirely missing my point I got slagged off for saying the club owed money to creditors when I was right as Murrell confirmed. I'm told that the lecky bill was reported to be circa £34k but of course I can't prove it. I was also told
that the company who beamed the game to the TV sets dotted around the ground hadn't been paid and pulled the plug but again I cannot prove this.
I just get p!ssed off when after having my statements effectively
confirmed by a former club director people still choose to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well when it clearly isn't. As Den said all we want is honesty and clarity and to date we have been bullsh!ted and patronised since day one and if you can't see that then we will have to agree to disagree.
Wiz - why do you need it to be so b&w? You are entirely missing my point I got slagged off for saying the club owed money to creditors when I was right as Murrell confirmed. I'm told that the lecky bill was reported to be circa £34k but of course I can't prove it. I was also told that the company who beamed the game to the TV sets dotted around the ground hadn't been paid and pulled the plug but again I cannot prove this. I just get p!ssed off when after having my statements effectively confirmed by a former club director people still choose to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well when it clearly isn't. As Den said all we want is honesty and clarity and to date we have been bullsh!ted and patronised since day one and if you can't see that then we will have to agree to disagree. The Jockster

12:46pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

fredi wrote:
Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.
You're back, fantastic.

Said it till I'm blue in the face - adver=local paper. They employ sports correspondents who report on what they're told by the club and what they see on the pitch.

If you want the cook report as seems to be suggested by "digging deeper" into the off-pitch activities, I suggest you hire a PI - this is not the adver's job.

Also I see you've reappeared just as another off field "scandal" has landed - you've never indicated who you are, how you know the stuff you claim to know or exactly what your axe to grind is, and frankly I couldn't care less, but what I do care about is the football, and you're notable by your absence in any football related discussion - when we beat QPR away from home to get to the next round of the cup? No Fredi. When we beat Rotherham - no Fredi. Sticking five past Port Vale? No Fredi.

Crawling out of the woodwork only to sling acusations at the board (whether those accusations are true or false) suggests that you couldn't give a **** what happens to the club in footballing terms. "Fellow fans?" I've never heard you utter one word which would suggest you're a fan of this club, your most recent comments included. This is not me "lambasting" you, but putting forward some observations which you might wish to consider.
[quote][p][bold]fredi[/bold] wrote: Wonder whether Sangita may wish to retract her "financially robust" comments in the light of Steve's comments ? Wonder whether the FL will look closely into our club's affairs after the revelation that the £1.2m was put into the club to satisfy them about embargo only to be whipped out ten days later (as I pointed out at the time). Shame if there was not much cash lying around that Murrall was, along with King and McCrory, the beneficiary of "consultancy payments". If there were payment plans in place, seems odd that several creditors were forced to issue Statutory Orders and instigate winding up proceedings against the club to gain payment and that there are several such claims currently ongoing. Sorry to hear about Jed's "health issues", let's hope it's just a sore throat and he gets his ROAARR back soon...or is this just paving the way for his attempt to bolt for the exit citing "health related issues" ? Sam, most of us who have been pressurizing this Board (and getting lambasted by fellow fans in the process) do not take any pleasure in being proved right, but have continued to ask the likes of the Adver to dig a lot deeper into what is really happening at our club. There are enough threads in Murrall's interview to follow up that should start to expose far more of the truth.[/p][/quote]You're back, fantastic. Said it till I'm blue in the face - adver=local paper. They employ sports correspondents who report on what they're told by the club and what they see on the pitch. If you want the cook report as seems to be suggested by "digging deeper" into the off-pitch activities, I suggest you hire a PI - this is not the adver's job. Also I see you've reappeared just as another off field "scandal" has landed - you've never indicated who you are, how you know the stuff you claim to know or exactly what your axe to grind is, and frankly I couldn't care less, but what I do care about is the football, and you're notable by your absence in any football related discussion - when we beat QPR away from home to get to the next round of the cup? No Fredi. When we beat Rotherham - no Fredi. Sticking five past Port Vale? No Fredi. Crawling out of the woodwork only to sling acusations at the board (whether those accusations are true or false) suggests that you couldn't give a **** what happens to the club in footballing terms. "Fellow fans?" I've never heard you utter one word which would suggest you're a fan of this club, your most recent comments included. This is not me "lambasting" you, but putting forward some observations which you might wish to consider. Swindon1984

1:04pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Oi Den! says...

84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.
84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club. Oi Den!

1:05pm Tue 3 Dec 13

the wizard says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wiz - why do you need it to be so b&w? You are entirely missing my point I got slagged off for saying the club owed money to creditors when I was right as Murrell confirmed. I'm told that the lecky bill was reported to be circa £34k but of course I can't prove it. I was also told
that the company who beamed the game to the TV sets dotted around the ground hadn't been paid and pulled the plug but again I cannot prove this.
I just get p!ssed off when after having my statements effectively
confirmed by a former club director people still choose to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well when it clearly isn't. As Den said all we want is honesty and clarity and to date we have been bullsh!ted and patronised since day one and if you can't see that then we will have to agree to disagree.
Jock, I want the same as everybody else, a good sound club on a firm footing. I don't think anyone disputes that we all want that. Many of us got sucked when the take over took place,BUT, who else was there prepared to take the club on as a going concern. Nobody. As I remember it broadly speaking there were plenty but they wanted the club in Admin first. That would have probably brought with it, non league status.
So a lot of us got sucked in to this and that debates about the integrity of Jed and others, but nobody here had the funding to take the club forward. Fair enough, but it is easy to sit back and criticize, but could any of us done it any better ? I doubt it. Seems to me they have been fire fighting from day one. Have they taken a wage ? probably, do I blame them, No, because if its a full time commitment then a wage should be paid as it would to a director in any other company.

They don't have to tell us "all". In fact there is no obligation for them to do so, and although we are supporters we have no rights at all other than goodwill by the board. Previous boards and boards of other clubs do not go into detail workings of the club, as that is basically down to the directors. However, it is an offense to trade any company while knowing it to be insolvent and that is a court room job for sure.

If Jedco didn't care there wouldn't have been the clear out of high earners, neither would there have been an audit etc, etc. I think the bloke does care and the fact he is suffering health wise and I am guessing stress shows to me he does care and has tried. I do honestly think if he is guilty of anything it is biting off more than he could chew, but the club is still here, still in L1 and we are 7th and playing with a young team, vastly in experienced, but now and again flashes of promise. I don't think you get all that from people whose heart isn't in the right place. Debts or not, nothing I think Power can't sort out. So until I hear Jeds side of the story I'm not going to throw him into irons, but I would imagine the debts if we have them, are only a shadow of the bad past debts under previous boards, so why the depth of fear I dunno. If HMRC came on the scene then things might be different, but as yet they haven't. Relax old son, relax.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Wiz - why do you need it to be so b&w? You are entirely missing my point I got slagged off for saying the club owed money to creditors when I was right as Murrell confirmed. I'm told that the lecky bill was reported to be circa £34k but of course I can't prove it. I was also told that the company who beamed the game to the TV sets dotted around the ground hadn't been paid and pulled the plug but again I cannot prove this. I just get p!ssed off when after having my statements effectively confirmed by a former club director people still choose to stick their heads in the sand and pretend all is well when it clearly isn't. As Den said all we want is honesty and clarity and to date we have been bullsh!ted and patronised since day one and if you can't see that then we will have to agree to disagree.[/p][/quote]Jock, I want the same as everybody else, a good sound club on a firm footing. I don't think anyone disputes that we all want that. Many of us got sucked when the take over took place,BUT, who else was there prepared to take the club on as a going concern. Nobody. As I remember it broadly speaking there were plenty but they wanted the club in Admin first. That would have probably brought with it, non league status. So a lot of us got sucked in to this and that debates about the integrity of Jed and others, but nobody here had the funding to take the club forward. Fair enough, but it is easy to sit back and criticize, but could any of us done it any better ? I doubt it. Seems to me they have been fire fighting from day one. Have they taken a wage ? probably, do I blame them, No, because if its a full time commitment then a wage should be paid as it would to a director in any other company. They don't have to tell us "all". In fact there is no obligation for them to do so, and although we are supporters we have no rights at all other than goodwill by the board. Previous boards and boards of other clubs do not go into detail workings of the club, as that is basically down to the directors. However, it is an offense to trade any company while knowing it to be insolvent and that is a court room job for sure. If Jedco didn't care there wouldn't have been the clear out of high earners, neither would there have been an audit etc, etc. I think the bloke does care and the fact he is suffering health wise and I am guessing stress shows to me he does care and has tried. I do honestly think if he is guilty of anything it is biting off more than he could chew, but the club is still here, still in L1 and we are 7th and playing with a young team, vastly in experienced, but now and again flashes of promise. I don't think you get all that from people whose heart isn't in the right place. Debts or not, nothing I think Power can't sort out. So until I hear Jeds side of the story I'm not going to throw him into irons, but I would imagine the debts if we have them, are only a shadow of the bad past debts under previous boards, so why the depth of fear I dunno. If HMRC came on the scene then things might be different, but as yet they haven't. Relax old son, relax. the wizard

1:13pm Tue 3 Dec 13

mr_flibble says...

the wizard wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote: I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain. All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.
Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC? Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps?
Which suppliers and their names please, amounts would be useful to get an accurate picture. Does it matter now, Power has taken over and again will probably inject more cash. I don't know that for sure but its a possibility. A few months back we were staring admin in the face and probably demotion. jed staved that off, nobody else was prepared to take the club on. I've never said that I was "in love" with Jed, but he has cleared out a lot of dross, and nobody can deny that. At least he has tried to sort things out, although my thoughts are he has bitten of more than he could chew with this club. His bravado carried him through the early days but the millstone of this money pit of a club has probably been responsible for him becoming ill. Stress is a silent killer as people cannot see it. this club has been in and out of admin and embargo for years, yet nobody was slagging Black off when he mispent through his Chairmen millions of pounds. Rich men they may have been, but they clearly didn't have a clue on how to run this club in profit, they just wrote cheques and wrote off millions of pounds of debt. Seems Power has been trying to do the same. Quite why some people here will not name names, don't quantify the figures outstanding or name the companies owed. I don't doubt that the club may have bills owing, most companies do. I respect the views of others, but that doesn't mean they right or wrong, but I do object to some trying to brain wash and brow beat others into submission because their mates third cousins uncle heard something in a pub so it must be right. Jock, if it is right, correct and true then it will be published, then we will all see the the facts, then those that said so can feel good about it.
There were 4 serious interested parties. The thing is the time frame was too short for the other 3.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I cannot see why there is so much emphasis here on scoring points off each other when the agenda should be on a far higher plain. All we have seen so far is allegation, followed by counter allegation. For the sake of clarity The Adver should be looking deeper into the bigger picture. Speaking to local suppliers and finding out if the bills are being paid, and trying to contact Power or Crouch to see what the perspective really is. Murrall has only chosen to talk now, why is that do you think. If he was so forced out why not complain and cause a stink at the time, rather than bite back now for cheap points. We need to see some facts and not hear say before jumping to conclusions through because things can be manipulated to suit. We all know Jed has little funding, and we all know that the club has a stock of unfit/unwanted players all on big money, and that millstone is ongoing until their contracts expire. The repercussions of Administration should that occur should be the main concern, not the back biting so many here indulge in.[/p][/quote]Wiz please read or re-read my comment to Chish re payment of bills. It is not an allegation it is fact and Murrell has confirmed it for goodness sake! I can't believe that you have once again changed your mind about whether or not you think all is well behind the scenes- today you seem to have rejoined the I love Jed camp. Murrell has said that there were payment plans in place ( because we couldn't afford to pay up front) and myself and others have quoted examples of suppliers not being paid - why can't you accept that? Especially as Murell has confirmed it or do you think he lying about that? Why do we need Sam ( who knows the square root of burger all anyway and won't ask probing questions) to confirm what are already facts. If you were a contractor to STFC and hadn't been paid you'd know right? Isn't it then conceivable that posters contributing to these threads might know or work for somebody who is owed money by STFC? Nobody is jumping to any conclusions here and Murrell may well have not been in a position to speak before now - eg he's owed money perhaps?[/p][/quote]Which suppliers and their names please, amounts would be useful to get an accurate picture. Does it matter now, Power has taken over and again will probably inject more cash. I don't know that for sure but its a possibility. A few months back we were staring admin in the face and probably demotion. jed staved that off, nobody else was prepared to take the club on. I've never said that I was "in love" with Jed, but he has cleared out a lot of dross, and nobody can deny that. At least he has tried to sort things out, although my thoughts are he has bitten of more than he could chew with this club. His bravado carried him through the early days but the millstone of this money pit of a club has probably been responsible for him becoming ill. Stress is a silent killer as people cannot see it. this club has been in and out of admin and embargo for years, yet nobody was slagging Black off when he mispent through his Chairmen millions of pounds. Rich men they may have been, but they clearly didn't have a clue on how to run this club in profit, they just wrote cheques and wrote off millions of pounds of debt. Seems Power has been trying to do the same. Quite why some people here will not name names, don't quantify the figures outstanding or name the companies owed. I don't doubt that the club may have bills owing, most companies do. I respect the views of others, but that doesn't mean they right or wrong, but I do object to some trying to brain wash and brow beat others into submission because their mates third cousins uncle heard something in a pub so it must be right. Jock, if it is right, correct and true then it will be published, then we will all see the the facts, then those that said so can feel good about it.[/p][/quote]There were 4 serious interested parties. The thing is the time frame was too short for the other 3. mr_flibble

1:19pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Old Town says...

Oi Den! wrote:
84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.
What utter rubbish - yet again !

So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great....

Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all !
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: 84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish - yet again ! So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great.... Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all ! Old Town

1:38pm Tue 3 Dec 13

MITTED says...

Old Town wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.
What utter rubbish - yet again !

So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great....

Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all !
Fredi didn't reveal the involvement of Stephen Crouch, Lee Power or that the latter's investment was swiftly taken out of the club on the q/t having appeased the football league or that Lee Power was the de-facto owner. Nope, it was all "baloney" and not a shread of evidence to back it up.......... ;o) Yes, there is hyper-bole on this site at times but when it gets to the serious stuff, the underlining trend is usually spot on. But then again, I have no evidence of that! ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Old Town[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: 84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish - yet again ! So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great.... Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all ![/p][/quote]Fredi didn't reveal the involvement of Stephen Crouch, Lee Power or that the latter's investment was swiftly taken out of the club on the q/t having appeased the football league or that Lee Power was the de-facto owner. Nope, it was all "baloney" and not a shread of evidence to back it up.......... ;o) Yes, there is hyper-bole on this site at times but when it gets to the serious stuff, the underlining trend is usually spot on. But then again, I have no evidence of that! ;o) MITTED

1:43pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ?

Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white.

Who is Fredi ???????

From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it.

Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable.

We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board.

I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC.

COYMR

ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum Oxon-Red

1:59pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

Old Town wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: 84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.
What utter rubbish - yet again ! So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great.... Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all !
My sentiments exactly.
[quote][p][bold]Old Town[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: 84, given the fact that the club has rarely been the source of any credible statement since the McCrory group walked in through the door, some of us are very grateful for fredi's enlightening summaries. The truth is painful but I'd rather hear it any day than the complete baloney those in charge of the club have asked us to swallow. They have insulted our intelligence and disrespected our status as supporters of the club.[/p][/quote]What utter rubbish - yet again ! So please give me any example of the club releasing a statement that is not credible ? Just one would be great.... Again, where is the "baloney" ? What has been said that is untrue ? Apart from certain people on here rambling on like they actually know the FACTS, all there is on here - and this definitely includes Fredi - is he said/she said rumours - backed up by absolutely nothing at all ![/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly. Swindon1984

2:02pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum[/p][/quote]Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only. Swindon1984

2:16pm Tue 3 Dec 13

the don69 says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.
Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum[/p][/quote]Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!! the don69

2:24pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Oxon-Red says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.
Agreed and although I find the current situation worrying I am starting to believe that this person will not rest until Jed is gone.

Much of the distrust of Jed on this forum is a result of his/her posts, job done, the peasants are revolting.

It was interesting yesterday that Fredi was full of praise for Lee and he now seems to be Golden Boy in the eyes of some previous doubters.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum[/p][/quote]Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.[/p][/quote]Agreed and although I find the current situation worrying I am starting to believe that this person will not rest until Jed is gone. Much of the distrust of Jed on this forum is a result of his/her posts, job done, the peasants are revolting. It was interesting yesterday that Fredi was full of praise for Lee and he now seems to be Golden Boy in the eyes of some previous doubters. COYMR Oxon-Red

2:36pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Davidsyrett says...

Haven't attempted to read through all the previous posts, so excuse me if any of this has been covered but what I'd have like Sam to ask would have been:

A) Who put pressure on Murrall to leave (Jed or LP or both)?
B) Why was he leaving at Christmas anyway? (Especially being on the board)

Has raised more questions than answers.

He does seem to clear up the money issue. £500K invested, not the £2M we were lead to believe or nothing as many thought.

Reading "Washbag's" story yesterday, he states the club had £3M liabilities when Jed took over, (see Den, the club was hardly debt free!) £2m has been cut by reduction of wages and staff, meaning we are probably losing £1M a year at the moment, hence the £500K invested so far by LP to keep the club going. Assuming that the money brought in by the sale of Flint will cover some of the losses, I'm guessing a sale or 2 will happen in January (Wes for £500K would balance the books + hopefully add some money to spend). At this rate more cost cutting will be required at the end of the season unless LP invests some more money. Be interesting to know what his plans are.
Haven't attempted to read through all the previous posts, so excuse me if any of this has been covered but what I'd have like Sam to ask would have been: A) Who put pressure on Murrall to leave (Jed or LP or both)? B) Why was he leaving at Christmas anyway? (Especially being on the board) Has raised more questions than answers. He does seem to clear up the money issue. £500K invested, not the £2M we were lead to believe or nothing as many thought. Reading "Washbag's" story yesterday, he states the club had £3M liabilities when Jed took over, (see Den, the club was hardly debt free!) £2m has been cut by reduction of wages and staff, meaning we are probably losing £1M a year at the moment, hence the £500K invested so far by LP to keep the club going. Assuming that the money brought in by the sale of Flint will cover some of the losses, I'm guessing a sale or 2 will happen in January (Wes for £500K would balance the books + hopefully add some money to spend). At this rate more cost cutting will be required at the end of the season unless LP invests some more money. Be interesting to know what his plans are. Davidsyrett

3:27pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Swindon1984 says...

the don69 wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.
Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!!
You know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise, and unfortunately on this site there're more than a few who will gladly lap up anything that Fredi has to say, whether or not there's any truth in it or any evidence to back up the claims. Would rather wait and see, and make up my OWN mind than blindly follow what some unknown entity spouts off on the internet.

I'm happy to have a club to support, one which is doing ok, and will still be watching the town play as is my number one priority. Seems some are so concerned about the off field nonsense they've forgotten what supporting a football club is about - turning up and cheering on your team.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum[/p][/quote]Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!![/p][/quote]You know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise, and unfortunately on this site there're more than a few who will gladly lap up anything that Fredi has to say, whether or not there's any truth in it or any evidence to back up the claims. Would rather wait and see, and make up my OWN mind than blindly follow what some unknown entity spouts off on the internet. I'm happy to have a club to support, one which is doing ok, and will still be watching the town play as is my number one priority. Seems some are so concerned about the off field nonsense they've forgotten what supporting a football club is about - turning up and cheering on your team. Swindon1984

3:46pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Davidsyrett says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
the don69 wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum
Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.
Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!!
You know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise, and unfortunately on this site there're more than a few who will gladly lap up anything that Fredi has to say, whether or not there's any truth in it or any evidence to back up the claims. Would rather wait and see, and make up my OWN mind than blindly follow what some unknown entity spouts off on the internet.

I'm happy to have a club to support, one which is doing ok, and will still be watching the town play as is my number one priority. Seems some are so concerned about the off field nonsense they've forgotten what supporting a football club is about - turning up and cheering on your team.
Well said 84!
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: Just curious really as to why Fredi only started posting after Jed was identified as one of the new owners. If he/she really had Town's fate in his/her heart why did we not hear anything during the Patey reign ? Whatever they have written whether it is true or a lucky guess they do seem to have an agenda. Many posters on here have decided it is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth probably to the extent they could now tell you that black was white. Who is Fredi ??????? From a personal point of view I think Jed and Co have done a sound job at the CG. We were losing thousands a week and could not go on that way when the plug was pulled. They have reduced the wage bill and provided a decent playing squad. It seems to me from Murrell's statement that they have done the correct thing in arranging payment plans to pay debtors or suppliers. I constantly hear on the radio that this is the correct course of action if you are in debt. The road to stability is a long one but we seem to have started driving down it. Do we really want a big investor to come in ? I think I prefered football before money was so important, the results and winners were far less predictable. We hear all the time of small companies complaining of late payments by much bigger companies. Shouldn't happen but it does. Sounds like Murrell is a bit sore about losing his place on the board. I wonder if the Prophet that is Fredi will be with us when/if Jed leaves STFC. COYMR ps calling someone a liar is a very dangerous act on a public forum[/p][/quote]Who is Fredi? Good question, but not one we'll ever get an honest answer to. The only thing I'm convinced of currently is that it's someone with a serious axe to grind, and not, as they would have you believe, a supporter of the club. I've never heard anything to suggest that they are, that they have ever voiced an opinion on the club during the Black era, and have never made any comment related to football during their time on this forum. The interest seems to be in the current board and current OFF-FIELD activities only.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps,can't ever remember a Fredi football related post?those knocking Jed forget that without him,we'd be sampling the delights of Conference football this season.now Powers in charge,I would think it's only a matter of time before Jed goes,I also agree on late payments chaps,big companies try it on for as long as they can,should be stopped by the Government!!!!!![/p][/quote]You know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise, and unfortunately on this site there're more than a few who will gladly lap up anything that Fredi has to say, whether or not there's any truth in it or any evidence to back up the claims. Would rather wait and see, and make up my OWN mind than blindly follow what some unknown entity spouts off on the internet. I'm happy to have a club to support, one which is doing ok, and will still be watching the town play as is my number one priority. Seems some are so concerned about the off field nonsense they've forgotten what supporting a football club is about - turning up and cheering on your team.[/p][/quote]Well said 84! Davidsyrett

5:30pm Tue 3 Dec 13

the wizard says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Haven't attempted to read through all the previous posts, so excuse me if any of this has been covered but what I'd have like Sam to ask would have been:

A) Who put pressure on Murrall to leave (Jed or LP or both)?
B) Why was he leaving at Christmas anyway? (Especially being on the board)

Has raised more questions than answers.

He does seem to clear up the money issue. £500K invested, not the £2M we were lead to believe or nothing as many thought.

Reading "Washbag's" story yesterday, he states the club had £3M liabilities when Jed took over, (see Den, the club was hardly debt free!) £2m has been cut by reduction of wages and staff, meaning we are probably losing £1M a year at the moment, hence the £500K invested so far by LP to keep the club going. Assuming that the money brought in by the sale of Flint will cover some of the losses, I'm guessing a sale or 2 will happen in January (Wes for £500K would balance the books + hopefully add some money to spend). At this rate more cost cutting will be required at the end of the season unless LP invests some more money. Be interesting to know what his plans are.
Dave, I was hoping with Power taking over we wouldn't have to sell Wes. Perhaps with Williams and Rooney off our books that would be a start and then get shot of sick notes Troy and Navarro. End of season concentrate on a new back line. I would be bending over backwards now to keep Coopers assistant Williams on board as well. Seems Power is going to be running short of his allowable days here before getting hit with a tax bill so time is of the essence to him. I do think January will see a lot of wheeling and dealing of players, as it will be in Powers biggest interest to get this club out of L1, quickly.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: Haven't attempted to read through all the previous posts, so excuse me if any of this has been covered but what I'd have like Sam to ask would have been: A) Who put pressure on Murrall to leave (Jed or LP or both)? B) Why was he leaving at Christmas anyway? (Especially being on the board) Has raised more questions than answers. He does seem to clear up the money issue. £500K invested, not the £2M we were lead to believe or nothing as many thought. Reading "Washbag's" story yesterday, he states the club had £3M liabilities when Jed took over, (see Den, the club was hardly debt free!) £2m has been cut by reduction of wages and staff, meaning we are probably losing £1M a year at the moment, hence the £500K invested so far by LP to keep the club going. Assuming that the money brought in by the sale of Flint will cover some of the losses, I'm guessing a sale or 2 will happen in January (Wes for £500K would balance the books + hopefully add some money to spend). At this rate more cost cutting will be required at the end of the season unless LP invests some more money. Be interesting to know what his plans are.[/p][/quote]Dave, I was hoping with Power taking over we wouldn't have to sell Wes. Perhaps with Williams and Rooney off our books that would be a start and then get shot of sick notes Troy and Navarro. End of season concentrate on a new back line. I would be bending over backwards now to keep Coopers assistant Williams on board as well. Seems Power is going to be running short of his allowable days here before getting hit with a tax bill so time is of the essence to him. I do think January will see a lot of wheeling and dealing of players, as it will be in Powers biggest interest to get this club out of L1, quickly. the wizard

12:05am Wed 4 Dec 13

jedthered says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
jedthered wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.
Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.
With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.
Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.
jedthered whilst you are entitled to your opinion where has it been said that Chish and myself have openly said we believe in every word that Jed and Co say and if you think we have then provide proof please because talk about contradiction, its ok for you to accuse Jed and Co of lies but you are doing the same. I have never ever said that I trust Jed or believe every word he says and in fact no I do not trust them but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage the club. We have no alternative as I see it but all this constant accusations thrown at the board is not doing any of us any good and if they were up to no good then surely they would get found out and the football league would act accordingly. All this point scoring is pathetic let alone distortion of the truth hey? pot kettle.
Proof, about 4 months ago you accused me of lying about consultant fees paid to Jed and co, you asked me why make up lies about that, whilst it was plainly stated in the Supporters trust Q and A session, and i quote from Jed himself "that noone works for nothing", but no you would not even belive the printed word of the man himself. You must be a very young and naive man, because you have publicly branded me a Liar.
So paint , black and kettle come to mind to you .......... be careful young man or i will take you to court for LIable OK
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: This article will spark some more thought and worries on the subject. This I will admit this is far more eye opening than a lot of the thoughts and accusations yesterday. Could I through this into the mixer - Fredi (Fired) = Steve Murrall ... to me it does seem to add up - maybe another 2+2=5 though.[/p][/quote]Time scale all wrong "oh head in the sand with rose tinted glasses". Murrel sack 6 weeks ago, Ferdi 6 months ago plus, so your theory makes no sense whatsoever, just like all your blind faith in this joke of a boardroom. I hope now we will hear a lot less from the likes of you and DKO now that things that have been said on here and boo hoo'ed at are coming back and slapping you in the face. Oh just another thing, talk to people of other clubs that have had Power or McCorry at boardroom level, i.e. Cambridge, Rushden and Luton, see what sort of nice things they have to say about them, there is now to much smoke for there not to be a fire. I really fear for my club.[/p][/quote]With respect I am entitled to view my thoughts on here as much as you are sunbeam, so wind your neck in. If I am wrong, at least I will admit on here not run away hide for months then re appear. I am still doubtful of some of these accusations and like others will stand by and wait for the proof - then will decide - not on the hearsay of a post on an open forum from persons unnamed or abuse from persons like your good self.[/p][/quote]Oh i see , its all well and good for you and your ilk to spout what you like, calling us all doom merchants and we dont know what we are talking about, and there's you beliving in every word that Jed and co say, but now there is proof you still will not see the truth that there is something not right at SN 1. As I've said before when you get to my age you can sense when you are being told a load of B****hit, to many lies and not enough truth. So , be a good fellow and you wind your neck in!!!!! Oh FAO DKO i did say that i would donate £50 to the clubs charity if i was wrong, are you going to donate.[/p][/quote]jedthered whilst you are entitled to your opinion where has it been said that Chish and myself have openly said we believe in every word that Jed and Co say and if you think we have then provide proof please because talk about contradiction, its ok for you to accuse Jed and Co of lies but you are doing the same. I have never ever said that I trust Jed or believe every word he says and in fact no I do not trust them but what I did say was get off their backs and let them manage the club. We have no alternative as I see it but all this constant accusations thrown at the board is not doing any of us any good and if they were up to no good then surely they would get found out and the football league would act accordingly. All this point scoring is pathetic let alone distortion of the truth hey? pot kettle.[/p][/quote]Proof, about 4 months ago you accused me of lying about consultant fees paid to Jed and co, you asked me why make up lies about that, whilst it was plainly stated in the Supporters trust Q and A session, and i quote from Jed himself "that noone works for nothing", but no you would not even belive the printed word of the man himself. You must be a very young and naive man, because you have publicly branded me a Liar. So paint , black and kettle come to mind to you .......... be careful young man or i will take you to court for LIable OK jedthered

12:08am Wed 4 Dec 13

jedthered says...

libel
libel jedthered

8:49pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Di kanny oh says...

jedthered wrote:
libel
Try it arsshooole
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: libel[/p][/quote]Try it arsshooole Di kanny oh

2:05pm Thu 5 Dec 13

buckobassettboy says...

Well a short reprise for a bit of half decent football-sometimes-a
nd its back to the same old STFC,I was originally very anti Jed and co and at the time I was not convinced it was right for the club-a short term chancer who had previous adverse at other clubs.These people are carpet-baggers,ventu
re capitalists who fly the flag of convenience with no deep rooted love of the club they purport to have interests at heart for.When will the numbnuts on here realise that.Only in it for the money as the saying goes.People tout on about sustainability,balan
cing the books etc .Not sure-or bothered by the way-how long Jed,Power or Murral were tenants,but Murral has publicly stated there are still people owed money!!Well that is a job well done then.Now we have Power who according to some on this forum is all that is good for our club.Best of luck with that one then.Never mind re-imbursing the fans for **** performances-on the pitch and in the boardroom-get the creditors paid before the players get their wages and we may avoid more adverse.I am sick to the stomach with all of it.
Well a short reprise for a bit of half decent football-sometimes-a nd its back to the same old STFC,I was originally very anti Jed and co and at the time I was not convinced it was right for the club-a short term chancer who had previous adverse at other clubs.These people are carpet-baggers,ventu re capitalists who fly the flag of convenience with no deep rooted love of the club they purport to have interests at heart for.When will the numbnuts on here realise that.Only in it for the money as the saying goes.People tout on about sustainability,balan cing the books etc .Not sure-or bothered by the way-how long Jed,Power or Murral were tenants,but Murral has publicly stated there are still people owed money!!Well that is a job well done then.Now we have Power who according to some on this forum is all that is good for our club.Best of luck with that one then.Never mind re-imbursing the fans for **** performances-on the pitch and in the boardroom-get the creditors paid before the players get their wages and we may avoid more adverse.I am sick to the stomach with all of it. buckobassettboy

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