MacDonald reveals the final breakdown (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

Dover Red wrote:

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote: Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

Thanks for that, nearly time to do battle with the M25 ! its worth it for 3 points !

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

smirg kcab wrote:
Snow settled chucking it down
No chance of game on
Onwards and upwards

smirg kcab wrote:
Snow settled chucking it down
No chance of game on
Onwards and upwards

fredi wrote:
Today is a day to focus on the men that really matter - the eleven on the pitch and those in the dugout. Snow boots on, scarf held high, time to shout myself hoarse. But, and it's a big but, we need our friends in the media to ask the awkward questions today. Believe me, every day that passes puts our club further at risk. Let's not slag each other off on here for being "negative" but rather accept that the anonymity of message boards allows some with real facts to tell the fans what is really going on. The football league are giving us the strongest possible hint, by keeping the embargo in place, that this Board are not to be trusted. They will not allow us to increase our financial exposure to fellow clubs by a single penny until they see funds being put into the club. Not a penny has gone in, but scandalously large amounts of our season ticket money has already been trousered by the Board and others. Will somebody please have the courage to confront them before it is too late. Our club is being raped in front of our eyes.

old town robin wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:
Snow settled chucking it down
No chance of game on
Onwards and upwards

wonder if they put the covers on, not expecting an early inspection after the rain last night

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote:

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote: Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

Thanks for that, nearly time to do battle with the M25 ! its worth it for 3 points !

Well done, an agenda of songs should be devised and given to every Swindon fan on the turnstiles , someone, apologies for not remembering who said it but suggested that we stood up and sang stand up for De Canio and we all did it, the atmosphere was brilliant and I am sure if we do that for our players and sings stand up for the Swindon Players it will be a big confidence boost, please no negativity today let’s get behind our team  and sing until we have no voices left, after all Kevin as requested we get behind the team COYR

Not so Smart Roger wrote:

fredi wrote:
Today is a day to focus on the men that really matter - the eleven on the pitch and those in the dugout. Snow boots on, scarf held high, time to shout myself hoarse. But, and it's a big but, we need our friends in the media to ask the awkward questions today. Believe me, every day that passes puts our club further at risk. Let's not slag each other off on here for being "negative" but rather accept that the anonymity of message boards allows some with real facts to tell the fans what is really going on. The football league are giving us the strongest possible hint, by keeping the embargo in place, that this Board are not to be trusted. They will not allow us to increase our financial exposure to fellow clubs by a single penny until they see funds being put into the club. Not a penny has gone in, but scandalously large amounts of our season ticket money has already been trousered by the Board and others. Will somebody please have the courage to confront them before it is too late. Our club is being raped in front of our eyes.

Morning Fredi, I have no inside track on what's going on unfortunately, but a couple of questions on your post: If the Football League don't trust the new board, why did they sanction the takeover? And don't the outstanding debts all apply to previous regimes?

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote:
Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

The Jockster wrote:

Swindonfan wrote:

Dover Red wrote: Heavy snow in Dover, leaving soon, any white stuff in Swindon ?

Just started snowing here but wont settle, have a safe journey, COYR

Err think you'll find it might? I'd be wary of playing Michael Fish! Suggest all you long distance travellers consult all the weather oracles before starting out!

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
...sorry that was out of the four teams at home this weekend they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th! :-)
....
Am hoping for the Sheff Utd game to be called off as it will give then and Brentford a real headache to re-arrange

fredi wrote:
London Red you have often been criticized on here, but I am surprised that with your obvious accounting knowledge you cannot see that those clubs were paid out of existing cash resources....you should know the difference between cash and profit...the club had significant cash in it at the completion of takeover, but it will have needed every penny and more to pay existing bills and more...so the new owners could pay Shrewsbury and others, could help themselves to that lovely cash (they own it after all) and allow the creditors to be pushed further into the distance...cash flow from season tickets will mask the issue but the club collapses in the non revenue generating summer months)

fredi wrote:
Today is a day to focus on the men that really matter - the eleven on the pitch and those in the dugout. Snow boots on, scarf held high, time to shout myself hoarse. But, and it's a big but, we need our friends in the media to ask the awkward questions today. Believe me, every day that passes puts our club further at risk. Let's not slag each other off on here for being "negative" but rather accept that the anonymity of message boards allows some with real facts to tell the fans what is really going on. The football league are giving us the strongest possible hint, by keeping the embargo in place, that this Board are not to be trusted. They will not allow us to increase our financial exposure to fellow clubs by a single penny until they see funds being put into the club. Not a penny has gone in, but scandalously large amounts of our season ticket money has already been trousered by the Board and others. Will somebody please have the courage to confront them before it is too late. Our club is being raped in front of our eyes.

jayden wrote:

fredi wrote:
London Red you have often been criticized on here, but I am surprised that with your obvious accounting knowledge you cannot see that those clubs were paid out of existing cash resources....you should know the difference between cash and profit...the club had significant cash in it at the completion of takeover, but it will have needed every penny and more to pay existing bills and more...so the new owners could pay Shrewsbury and others, could help themselves to that lovely cash (they own it after all) and allow the creditors to be pushed further into the distance...cash flow from season tickets will mask the issue but the club collapses in the non revenue generating summer months)

Arrrrrrrrrrr!

London Red wrote:
Roger another question would be if a single penny has not been put in then who paid Shrewsbury and Norwich? - as it certainly was not Black
.
I know everyone is entitled to their opinion and all that usual guff - but they should also read the terms of this board and note the liable one before posting - comments like above could have someone in court!

DBTSTFC wrote:
As the snow is starting to settle any one thinking of going down to the CG and helping clear the car perk? Im up for it but don't want to be the only mug sweeping.
Might be better to be pro active.

With everything going on we can still show the board the red army have more passion for the team than any other lower class supporters.

I wanna see a win at home today so want the game to go on.

Just a thought

fredi wrote:
London Red I am well aware of the rules of this forum, but am "opening up" to urge our media friends to ask the questions before it is too late. Let them ask " it has been suggested on a fans' forum that you have not yet put a penny into the club, is this true ? " and further " can you categorically deny that Board members have taken substantial payments out of the club already ? " Let us use press privilege to unmask the truth.

old town robin wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
...sorry that was out of the four teams at home this weekend they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th! :-)
....
Am hoping for the Sheff Utd game to be called off as it will give then and Brentford a real headache to re-arrange

well that wish came true, great chance to go at least second today, rather have the points than games in hand

jayden wrote:
Please can we just talk about football just for one day even the snow not all the other crap.Didnt David Bowie have a song about talking football for just one day lol.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

old town robin wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
...sorry that was out of the four teams at home this weekend they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th! :-)
....
Am hoping for the Sheff Utd game to be called off as it will give then and Brentford a real headache to re-arrange

well that wish came true, great chance to go at least second today, rather have the points than games in hand

:-)
..
That's a big plus as Sheff Utd still have 9 games left with 8 of those to be played in April...and unless they schedule for between Easter MOnday and the following Saturday then they will have to play 2 mid-week games in one week.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Four teams out of the top 13 in Lgue 1 who technically still have a chance at the play-offs, strangely they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
..
None of these can be considered easy games except for Bournemouth at home to Bury but equally all of the away fixtures are going to be tricky banana skins as well.
..
Any postponements and the fixtures are REALLY going to start piling up in April.
Sheff Utd only have one spare mid-week date but could not replay v Brentford in that week as Brentford already have a fixture scheduled, so that would mean teams starting to play 2 games in a week.....or an unlikely extension to the league season.

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Four teams out of the top 13 in Lgue 1 who technically still have a chance at the play-offs, strangely they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
..
None of these can be considered easy games except for Bournemouth at home to Bury but equally all of the away fixtures are going to be tricky banana skins as well.
..
Any postponements and the fixtures are REALLY going to start piling up in April.
Sheff Utd only have one spare mid-week date but could not replay v Brentford in that week as Brentford already have a fixture scheduled, so that would mean teams starting to play 2 games in a week.....or an unlikely extension to the league season.

I suspect that the Football League will grant an unlikely extension to all League One Clubs, with the exception of Swindon Town for no particular reason they wish to discuss.

jayden wrote:

DBTSTFC wrote:
As the snow is starting to settle any one thinking of going down to the CG and helping clear the car perk? Im up for it but don't want to be the only mug sweeping.
Might be better to be pro active.

With everything going on we can still show the board the red army have more passion for the team than any other lower class supporters.

I wanna see a win at home today so want the game to go on.

Just a thought

Need to find out if nots county team are here or got to travel first as if they cant get here ......no game but yes lets get the game on we can clear snow with out pdc.

jayden wrote:

fredi wrote:
London Red you have often been criticized on here, but I am surprised that with your obvious accounting knowledge you cannot see that those clubs were paid out of existing cash resources....you should know the difference between cash and profit...the club had significant cash in it at the completion of takeover, but it will have needed every penny and more to pay existing bills and more...so the new owners could pay Shrewsbury and others, could help themselves to that lovely cash (they own it after all) and allow the creditors to be pushed further into the distance...cash flow from season tickets will mask the issue but the club collapses in the non revenue generating summer months)

Arrrrrrrrrrr!

fredi wrote:
London Red you are correct in what you say...the £1 for the club was paid to the previous owners....let the questions be asked, and accept that some on here are well informed....Jayden, I would love to focus on football and for the last few years we have had that luxury, we don't now.... For 90 minutes this afternoon I will roar us on, otherwise I will focus on ensuring my son has also got an STFC to support in years to come

jayden wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Four teams out of the top 13 in Lgue 1 who technically still have a chance at the play-offs, strangely they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
..
None of these can be considered easy games except for Bournemouth at home to Bury but equally all of the away fixtures are going to be tricky banana skins as well.
..
Any postponements and the fixtures are REALLY going to start piling up in April.
Sheff Utd only have one spare mid-week date but could not replay v Brentford in that week as Brentford already have a fixture scheduled, so that would mean teams starting to play 2 games in a week.....or an unlikely extension to the league season.

I suspect that the Football League will grant an unlikely extension to all League One Clubs, with the exception of Swindon Town for no particular reason they wish to discuss.

AND call todays game off and give notts county the points lol.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Four teams out of the top 13 in Lgue 1 who technically still have a chance at the play-offs, strangely they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
..
None of these can be considered easy games except for Bournemouth at home to Bury but equally all of the away fixtures are going to be tricky banana skins as well.
..
Any postponements and the fixtures are REALLY going to start piling up in April.
Sheff Utd only have one spare mid-week date but could not replay v Brentford in that week as Brentford already have a fixture scheduled, so that would mean teams starting to play 2 games in a week.....or an unlikely extension to the league season.

I suspect that the Football League will grant an unlikely extension to all League One Clubs, with the exception of Swindon Town for no particular reason they wish to discuss.

AND call todays game off and give notts county the points lol.

:-)
...
No doubt we'll also get a points deduction for not having called off the game despite being able to play...and another 2pts for every player in the match day squad....errmmm - are we relegated yet?
.
NO!!....that's another 10pt penalty!!
...
Come on Scunny - Cancel your game!!

DBTSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:

DBTSTFC wrote:
As the snow is starting to settle any one thinking of going down to the CG and helping clear the car perk? Im up for it but don't want to be the only mug sweeping.
Might be better to be pro active.

With everything going on we can still show the board the red army have more passion for the team than any other lower class supporters.

I wanna see a win at home today so want the game to go on.

Just a thought

Need to find out if nots county team are here or got to travel first as if they cant get here ......no game but yes lets get the game on we can clear snow with out pdc.

Good point.

Adver any chance of some news of the situation on teams and state of the pitch and grounds ect.

Glad some one is more concered about getting the game on rather than speculation surounding the rest of the club.

louiscassius wrote:

jayden wrote:

fredi wrote:
London Red you have often been criticized on here, but I am surprised that with your obvious accounting knowledge you cannot see that those clubs were paid out of existing cash resources....you should know the difference between cash and profit...the club had significant cash in it at the completion of takeover, but it will have needed every penny and more to pay existing bills and more...so the new owners could pay Shrewsbury and others, could help themselves to that lovely cash (they own it after all) and allow the creditors to be pushed further into the distance...cash flow from season tickets will mask the issue but the club collapses in the non revenue generating summer months)

Arrrrrrrrrrr!

Nice one Jayden,

Keep going my son, someone will stop posting the board stuff soon....lol.

I luv this forum....lol

COYR'sss

I'm in Harrogate, 13 miles north of Leeds and its been snowing all night, there about 6 inches and more in places....

Sheff Utd and Northern Teams i wouldnt think that they'll be on.....even though under the snow, the ground isnt frozen.

I hope the game remains on.

Louis :-)))

jayden wrote:
Please can we just talk about football just for one day even the snow not all the other crap.Didnt David Bowie have a song about talking football for just one day lol.

fredi wrote:
Roger, amongst the various tests to pass the FL approval, proof of funds needs to be shown. To get the embargo lifted, the FL need to see those funds put into the club - two separate things. With regard to debts, old debts (to shareholders) were written off on takeover. But the club has the everyday debts that a business will incur. STFC loses money so needs cash injections to keep it going. When Black decided not to fund any more, he sold to a group who said they would pick up the monthly funding requirement. But in truth, they have put no money in but rather taken advantage of one of the few months when the club is cash flow positive ( because of season ticket revenue) to take money out for themselves....I am not talking pennies but six figure sums....now it may be that they still intend to invest the money needed and have just hit a small hitch, but the FL will guide us on that....if the embargo is lifted, funds must have been deposited. The danger is that this is not the intention and sucking out obscene amounts now does not augur well. My fear is that pathetic excuses continue to be made as to why the embargo has not been lifted, whilst they help themselves to the ST money (and indeed the sums from FL if we get promoted)....skip a few tax payments, delay paying regular bills and then scarper, leaving Admin as an inevitable consequence. Classic asset strip. I hope I am wrong, but the facts suggest otherwise and the reality is dire.

ciclosporindorset wrote:

Not so Smart Roger wrote:

fredi wrote:
Today is a day to focus on the men that really matter - the eleven on the pitch and those in the dugout. Snow boots on, scarf held high, time to shout myself hoarse. But, and it's a big but, we need our friends in the media to ask the awkward questions today. Believe me, every day that passes puts our club further at risk. Let's not slag each other off on here for being "negative" but rather accept that the anonymity of message boards allows some with real facts to tell the fans what is really going on. The football league are giving us the strongest possible hint, by keeping the embargo in place, that this Board are not to be trusted. They will not allow us to increase our financial exposure to fellow clubs by a single penny until they see funds being put into the club. Not a penny has gone in, but scandalously large amounts of our season ticket money has already been trousered by the Board and others. Will somebody please have the courage to confront them before it is too late. Our club is being raped in front of our eyes.

Morning Fredi, I have no inside track on what's going on unfortunately, but a couple of questions on your post: If the Football League don't trust the new board, why did they sanction the takeover? And don't the outstanding debts all apply to previous regimes?

Quote from "Ciclosporindorsets Encyclopaedia of Medical Terminology"

Fredicrappery - A term to describe a vessel or individual that is full of faeces and that sheds this only onto cyber sites.

Fredicrap - A term to describe the constituents of faeces relieved onto cyber pages whenever anything slightly stressful takes place -such as new board,new manager, threat of takeover etc.

London Red wrote:
Fredi - far too many people on here have connections to the club for it all to be true and believable on the phase trust me - especially when most the information turns out to be bull
.
Now you may actually have connections and if what you say is true your connection will have evidence and must be worried to be sharing it
.
Therefore, take that evidence to the Trust AGM on 27th and lets start the ball rolling as if John was to take that evidence to the Adver or BBC - I guarantee they would publish it and demand answers!
.
Surely that is the best way of ensuring your son has an STFC to support in years to come rather than making wild statements on here!

who am i wrote:

London Red wrote:
Fredi - far too many people on here have connections to the club for it all to be true and believable on the phase trust me - especially when most the information turns out to be bull
.
Now you may actually have connections and if what you say is true your connection will have evidence and must be worried to be sharing it
.
Therefore, take that evidence to the Trust AGM on 27th and lets start the ball rolling as if John was to take that evidence to the Adver or BBC - I guarantee they would publish it and demand answers!
.
Surely that is the best way of ensuring your son has an STFC to support in years to come rather than making wild statements on here!

Posters like ciclosporindorset might learn well from reading posts like London's. This is what debate is all about without being abusive and name calling... great post London.

louiscassius wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

jayden wrote:

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Four teams out of the top 13 in Lgue 1 who technically still have a chance at the play-offs, strangely they are all 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th.
..
None of these can be considered easy games except for Bournemouth at home to Bury but equally all of the away fixtures are going to be tricky banana skins as well.
..
Any postponements and the fixtures are REALLY going to start piling up in April.
Sheff Utd only have one spare mid-week date but could not replay v Brentford in that week as Brentford already have a fixture scheduled, so that would mean teams starting to play 2 games in a week.....or an unlikely extension to the league season.

I suspect that the Football League will grant an unlikely extension to all League One Clubs, with the exception of Swindon Town for no particular reason they wish to discuss.

AND call todays game off and give notts county the points lol.

:-)
...
No doubt we'll also get a points deduction for not having called off the game despite being able to play...and another 2pts for every player in the match day squad....errmmm - are we relegated yet?
.
NO!!....that's another 10pt penalty!!
...
Come on Scunny - Cancel your game!!

Hey Ian,

You going to the game next Fri mate?

Louis

Rebel_phish wrote:
1) Town 2-0 County
2) 8225
3) A Rooney
4) 9
5) 85 min
----.
A) 18
B) 431
C) 9

Glosteroldboy wrote:
1) swindon 2 Notts 1
2) 7321
3) Collins 24
4) 11
5) 86th min

A) 12
B) 211
C) 8

Stuck in Dartmoor, all snow practically gone but now have issues with Mother in Law being flooded !! Oh Happy Days !!

Rebel_phish wrote:
Sorry for the confussion Sap.

Just woke up in time for the match commentary. Led up in bed at the moment with ManFlu,so not completely with it.

Though the missus says its just a tickly cough. Women eah!

BillyLucas4me wrote:
As a matter of interest how many other clubs are under an embargo?

Is there no way to communicate with the Football League requesting clarification of our position?
Surely the club is entitled to have the fullest information regarding the embarge!