SWINDON TOWN: Out-of-contract stars must play waiting game

DELAY?: Nathan Thompson DELAY?: Nathan Thompson

SWINDON Town’s out-of-contract stars may not have their fate decided until the end of the season, as manager Kevin MacDonald waits to discover what level his side will be playing at next term.

Nine of the Robins’ first-team squad, including regular starters Nathan Thompson, Aden Flint, Alan McCormack and Simon Ferry, see their current deals expire in the summer and, while MacDonald has been impressed by each and every one of them since arriving at the club on March 1, he still wants to bide his time before making a final decision.

The Advertiser understands the club’s board intend to sit down with several of those who will become free agents come July in the next few weeks to discuss the possibility of new deals, but MacDonald was non-committal regarding a timeframe when the subject was discussed at his pre-match press conference ahead of the visit of Notts County tomorrow.

He said: “Obviously we’d like to keep them and the good thing for them is that they’re playing very well. I think this football club would like to keep them and it will be down to when we’ve sussed out where we are - whether it’s this division or the next division - we can start talking about contracts.

“The monetary side is a lot different when you’re in the Championship. All the players that I’ve seen so far are worthy of playing for Swindon Town and worthy of playing in the Championship.

“The big focus for me is can we get promotion. If we do get promotion then we can sit down and look at all those things. There are a few out of contract, there are a few of the younger ones out of contract so we’ve got to see where we are.

“If it’s in the Championship it might be a different calibre of player that we require. Nothing is being thought of or spoken about at the moment.”

Ferry and McCormack are believed to have options of extensions to their time at Town built into their contracts but others, like Thompson, do not - meaning they could leave on the cheap in the summer.

MacDonald accepted losing his better players would be a blow but he emphasised how good money for the club and the lure of higher-tier football for the player is sometimes very hard to turn down.

He said: “We’ve got to look at where we are. In the position we are in the third tier of English football, if a club comes knocking on the door for one of our players to go to a higher level the chances are you’d have to sell them because of the money for the club and the fact that the player would want to go and challenge themselves.

“It becomes very difficult to keep players when that sort of thing happens. The great thing for me is if we were to get promotion then those players get a bit more of a chance to be spotted by bigger clubs.

“As much as we want to keep them we have to be aware of that and we are very aware of that, but there’s nothing we can do about that.”

Comments(45)

ScottLeitch says...
6:23am Fri 22 Mar 13

sounds like they are already gone... sooo negative

gibbo1012 says...
6:56am Fri 22 Mar 13

This is very very dangerous we have a premier league quality future player in thompson and someone will snap him for pence !!

Flint, ferry etc etc will all be on their way if we are not careful

Come on the new board sort this out now !!

Scribblemilk says...
7:09am Fri 22 Mar 13

Looks like we are back to the bad old days when we would rather dither and not sign up are better players only to lose them for pittance.

In the last couple of years that fear had gone we had players many coveted yet no sign of selling until Ritchie was sold from underneath us for pennies.

It amazes me how clubs think they can grow fanbases when they disillusion their supporters by selling their best players. Swindon never learns and hence we never grow.

jontyg says...
7:45am Fri 22 Mar 13

The wage bill is too much for this club.
They'll all be gone by the summer.
250K per month is unsustainable in the current financial climate.

LeGod says...
7:49am Fri 22 Mar 13

Agents will be touting other clubs already and expect a mass exodus. Totally negative comments from the club. They should have a clause in the contract that if we go up they are entitled to whatever fee if not the fee is figureA.
The whole situation is boiling up to a total bleak future.

sadgit says...
8:00am Fri 22 Mar 13

That should boost season ticket sales!

smirg kcab says...
8:19am Fri 22 Mar 13

They even blame kmac for this,
We have no money
Onwards and upwards

bradley red 1 says...
8:22am Fri 22 Mar 13

oh dear,very negative words from the manager so what exactley is the ambition of the board and the manager? uninspireing words again from the new people running our club,and a sign of things to come.

Bondy54 says...
8:26am Fri 22 Mar 13

Worryng times as if we do not go up this season I can see most of the better players leaving & we coud be in danger of plummeting back down to League 2.
That would be a total disaster.

smirg kcab says...
8:26am Fri 22 Mar 13

Don't forget it's only 60% cap next season instead of 65%
Onwards and upwards
We will be changing our name to
Dorcan tec football club
O&u

LeGod says...
8:30am Fri 22 Mar 13

Maybe Jed is a secret agent for Poxford as he was running Banbury Utd and wants it to go tits up.

old town robin says...
8:34am Fri 22 Mar 13

bradley red 1 wrote:
oh dear,very negative words from the manager so what exactley is the ambition of the board and the manager? uninspireing words again from the new people running our club,and a sign of things to come.
bradley, in Kmac's defence if he is asked a question at the weekly press conference and he gives an honest answer, we can't expect any more than that from him. The board on the other hand................
....no comment.

ScottLeitch says...
8:48am Fri 22 Mar 13

Looks like 4 of our best players on their way again. No ambition and probably no replacements... same old swindon im afraid.

MikeJP says...
8:57am Fri 22 Mar 13

old town robin wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote:
oh dear,very negative words from the manager so what exactley is the ambition of the board and the manager? uninspireing words again from the new people running our club,and a sign of things to come.
bradley, in Kmac's defence if he is asked a question at the weekly press conference and he gives an honest answer, we can't expect any more than that from him. The board on the other hand................

....no comment.
Can't blame KMac for this, but you would hope that he puts a strong case forward to the board about keeping potential stars. He has the football knowledge, would appear that the board don't know jack Sh. I think this confirms that the board has no interest in taking this club forward. that's my view anyway. Hope I'm totally wrong and we can all be positive for the remainder of this season and potentially the next season. COYR, lets all work hard tomorrow and get the results the team deserves. A good win.

John Young's Grumpy says...
10:03am Fri 22 Mar 13

MikeJP wrote:
old town robin wrote:
bradley red 1 wrote: oh dear,very negative words from the manager so what exactley is the ambition of the board and the manager? uninspireing words again from the new people running our club,and a sign of things to come.
bradley, in Kmac's defence if he is asked a question at the weekly press conference and he gives an honest answer, we can't expect any more than that from him. The board on the other hand................ ....no comment.
Can't blame KMac for this, but you would hope that he puts a strong case forward to the board about keeping potential stars. He has the football knowledge, would appear that the board don't know jack Sh. I think this confirms that the board has no interest in taking this club forward. that's my view anyway. Hope I'm totally wrong and we can all be positive for the remainder of this season and potentially the next season. COYR, lets all work hard tomorrow and get the results the team deserves. A good win.
Sorry everone but this is no different to nearly all the managerial statements made at this time of year.

I believe (happy to be wrong) that if we reviewed all the media releases on this subject over the past 10 years, any of the STFC managers at that time would be saying similar stuff. Sure there would have been a commitment to 1 or 2 of the key players, but the move in to a new season, especially where you would or could be playing at a different level, will require planning and a look a new players with the skill sets for that division.

I dont think this is all doom and gloom my friends.

We should also consider that our current crop of players - even those due to be out of contract, will likely be prepared to wait to see what's going to be on the table. They are here in a good club, well supported by a strong fan base, in the main probably well paid and also settled in the area. So why rush to move? Only when they have to, or the £s offered are much higher, will they consider leaving.

Cheer up, bigger things to worry about - like automatic promotion and the weekends weather!

COYR!!!

stfcflag says...
10:21am Fri 22 Mar 13

Deary me, I'm not too impressed with the new board and management so far. I hope they achieve brilliant things I really do but come on this is noddy. How many tiems have we left these discussions too long and lost our best players. Even if they haven't followed Swindon in recent years it's not brain surgery to know that a few of the squad will be fantastic in the Championship and league 1. Make sure they're signed up early, surely Thompson is a must no matter what ... Ferry too, sign them up and then win promotion don't let them leave for cheap in the summer ...

MITTED says...
10:36am Fri 22 Mar 13

Contracts wont by offered until we know what league we are in? Then simply do deals which cater for either option, ie. if we are in the Championship you get paid X, if it's League 1 you get Y. It ain't rocket science.
COYR

madterrier says...
11:11am Fri 22 Mar 13

This is not dangerous - it's incredibly stupid.

We MUST get Thompson signed up on a new contract NOW. If we don't, the new regime may well lose this club hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more.

It doesn't matter which League we are playing in next season. I realise that might affect whether some of the other players are required, but not Thompson.

It's such a no-brainer. I'm baffled.

STFC 67 says...
11:17am Fri 22 Mar 13

Madness - and so I am expected to renew 2 season tickets - sorry it needs 2 to make a commitment and I dont see that from the club

London Red says...
11:21am Fri 22 Mar 13

It clear that most bar John missed a very important sentance in this article
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The Advertiser understands the club’s board intend to sit down with several of those who will become free agents come July in the next few weeks to discuss the possibility of new deals
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Note the time frame - next few weeks!
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Has anyone for one second thought they might be a tad busy at the moment sorting out lifting the embargo and then getting new recruits in?
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Once that is done and dusted they can look at existing players contracts at the start of April
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Only Thompson is possibly urgent as Ferry has a extension in it like Caddis so we can extend it at anytime between now and July
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Even if we offer Thompson a deal if a big Championship club comes in and he goes for it we are f*cked anyway - just like when we poached Collins and Troy!
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If he wants to be off he would have already set those wheels in motion - so offering a deal today will make no difference to that
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If not then I'm sure there is no issue with him waiting until April to start talks
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People really are looking for anything to put the boot into the board
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If it is that easy why don't all the fans join the Trust - attend the AGM next week and then put together a proposal to buy out the club
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Apparently our current board are useless and don't have a pot to p1ss in - so why can't the anti board brigade simply do it instead?????

Oxon-Red says...
11:35am Fri 22 Mar 13

madterrier wrote:
This is not dangerous - it's incredibly stupid. We MUST get Thompson signed up on a new contract NOW. If we don't, the new regime may well lose this club hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more. It doesn't matter which League we are playing in next season. I realise that might affect whether some of the other players are required, but not Thompson. It's such a no-brainer. I'm baffled.
Even if we offered contracts now there is a chance they won't be signed until May or later. This is a statement of fact, it is what happens, players have far more say in where they go.

We would not necessarily lose out on thousands for Thompson unless he is released by the club. Because of his age, if he is offered a contract and another club comes in that he decides is better for him then a tribunal will set a transfer fee and add-ons. This is what happened to us with Coliins and Troy.

Most clubs will be in exactly the same position as us, not knowing which league to prepare for.

If you get relegated you have to offload to reduce bills like we did two seasons ago.

If you get promoted you have to make a decision as to whether a player will make the step up. Like we did last season with Connell, Smith and Kennedy.

We all want to see certain players stay but it doesn't really matter whether you offer the contract now or in a couple of months.

COYMR

Oxon-Red says...
11:41am Fri 22 Mar 13

Oxon-Red wrote:
madterrier wrote: This is not dangerous - it's incredibly stupid. We MUST get Thompson signed up on a new contract NOW. If we don't, the new regime may well lose this club hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more. It doesn't matter which League we are playing in next season. I realise that might affect whether some of the other players are required, but not Thompson. It's such a no-brainer. I'm baffled.
Even if we offered contracts now there is a chance they won't be signed until May or later. This is a statement of fact, it is what happens, players have far more say in where they go. We would not necessarily lose out on thousands for Thompson unless he is released by the club. Because of his age, if he is offered a contract and another club comes in that he decides is better for him then a tribunal will set a transfer fee and add-ons. This is what happened to us with Coliins and Troy. Most clubs will be in exactly the same position as us, not knowing which league to prepare for. If you get relegated you have to offload to reduce bills like we did two seasons ago. If you get promoted you have to make a decision as to whether a player will make the step up. Like we did last season with Connell, Smith and Kennedy. We all want to see certain players stay but it doesn't really matter whether you offer the contract now or in a couple of months. COYMR
Meant to add that promotion would improve our chances of players signing new contracts.

COYMR

themoonraker says...
12:00pm Fri 22 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
It clear that most bar John missed a very important sentance in this article
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The Advertiser understands the club’s board intend to sit down with several of those who will become free agents come July in the next few weeks to discuss the possibility of new deals
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Note the time frame - next few weeks!
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Has anyone for one second thought they might be a tad busy at the moment sorting out lifting the embargo and then getting new recruits in?
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Once that is done and dusted they can look at existing players contracts at the start of April
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Only Thompson is possibly urgent as Ferry has a extension in it like Caddis so we can extend it at anytime between now and July
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Even if we offer Thompson a deal if a big Championship club comes in and he goes for it we are f*cked anyway - just like when we poached Collins and Troy!
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If he wants to be off he would have already set those wheels in motion - so offering a deal today will make no difference to that
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If not then I'm sure there is no issue with him waiting until April to start talks
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People really are looking for anything to put the boot into the board
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If it is that easy why don't all the fans join the Trust - attend the AGM next week and then put together a proposal to buy out the club
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Apparently our current board are useless and don't have a pot to p1ss in - so why can't the anti board brigade simply do it instead?????
LR...I am astonished at the last part of your post,a very radical thought indeed!!
I am afraid some of them want to support the club, but only on their terms.
I said in a post last week that none of them have the wherewithal or b@lls to put money into the club so that they can have their say, they would rather just moan and complain at the people who do.
As for the trust, I thought they were meant to be a link between the board and the fans??, but yet nobody is berating them for not asking questions and getting answers from our mysterios board....why is that?,would they also rather just moan on here instead?

stfc4ever!! says...
12:23pm Fri 22 Mar 13

This is getting ridiculous!! At what point has he said that they wont be offering them new contracts? With all thats going on with the embargo situation dont you think that getting that sorted out takes priority anyway? Doesnt it also make perfect sense to wait and assess the situation in the sense of what league we will be in next season? If we were a mid table club with no chance of promotion or relegation then it would be deemed stupid not to sign them up now however we are not in the situation and we are at an exciting time with a real possibility of promotion to a league we havent been in for years therefore better players will be needed therefore showing ambition!!
Thats my view anyway feel free to disagree...

London Red says...
12:29pm Fri 22 Mar 13

The Trust can only be as big or as good as it members/board
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If no one joins then they are not really representing the fans - just a small proportion who are members
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Even if lots did join but never turned up to meetings or contribute - then the actual concerns of the fans could never be raised - just the views of the few who are there
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I'm personally not a member purely as I don't think there is enough appitite from fans to actually act
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I know John personally and he is a very decent bloke who has the club at heart - he warned of the Black scenario happening years ago and said that is why the Trust remained an important concept after the last takeover - but myself and clearly thousands other didn't agree and let their membership expire
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When AF did a rights issue and over 98% was forced to be purchsed by the board - that showed me that fans have no interest in actually running the club (or even a stake to just have a say)
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Which is why my suggestion will not happen and people will continue to simply moan instead of act
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If it was shown that the Trust (who should merge with the Supoorters club - din't see the need for two groups) were serious at buying a stake of the club - getting a rpresentative on the actual board and had fans join to do this I too would rejoin

Mikeyg107 says...
12:42pm Fri 22 Mar 13

So it's best to wait and give players the chance to speak to other clubs first?

Dont talk silly, I'm all one for patience but how is it not both business and common sense to sign extensions to players like Thompson before the end of the season??

What possible benefit is there to the club....apart from a possible signing on FEE or an increase in the WAGE bill.

If we drop points again at home this weekend with all of our injuries then I can see some fans turning against this new board in numbers, as the embargo is clearly effecting the team and there are players the manager has wanted to bring in for a couple of weeks now.......and the silence around it has been deafening.

ps. there was no reason the board couldn't have issued the statement regarding the embargo over a week ago - rather than Steve Murrall saying it'll be lifted Monday and new players should be here before Yeovil.

I personally think anyone who has been a town fan for over 10-20 years can clearly see the patern developing here.....as we've seen it all before.

madterrier says...
12:48pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Oxon-Red wrote:
madterrier wrote:
This is not dangerous - it's incredibly stupid. We MUST get Thompson signed up on a new contract NOW. If we don't, the new regime may well lose this club hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more. It doesn't matter which League we are playing in next season. I realise that might affect whether some of the other players are required, but not Thompson. It's such a no-brainer. I'm baffled.
Even if we offered contracts now there is a chance they won't be signed until May or later. This is a statement of fact, it is what happens, players have far more say in where they go.

We would not necessarily lose out on thousands for Thompson unless he is released by the club. Because of his age, if he is offered a contract and another club comes in that he decides is better for him then a tribunal will set a transfer fee and add-ons. This is what happened to us with Coliins and Troy.

Most clubs will be in exactly the same position as us, not knowing which league to prepare for.

If you get relegated you have to offload to reduce bills like we did two seasons ago.

If you get promoted you have to make a decision as to whether a player will make the step up. Like we did last season with Connell, Smith and Kennedy.

We all want to see certain players stay but it doesn't really matter whether you offer the contract now or in a couple of months.

COYMR
Well that's all fine then. Let's just leave it and hope for the best, and take these new guys at their word.

I know the FL tribunal sets fees for young players, but they usually come as a disappointment to the selling club.

Frankly I was amazed to learn that Thompson is out of contract this summer. But you're right - even if we offered new contracts now, the players may well say 'let's leave it to the summer'.

Despite the on field heroics and entertainment, I guess I don't like being reminded what a shambles our club has become off the pitch.

The game against Yeovil will have alerted more clubs.

And LR - 'a few weeks' can mean anything. April is in ten days' time and the season ends the following month. All the article says is those dreaded words "The Adver understands" that the board intends to discuss possible new contracts but then that MacDonald admits there is no timeframe for this. Need to get your reading glasses on!

There are pressing issues right now of course, although I regard protecting our existing assets of value as being as or even more important than being able to sign new young players on loan.

buckobassettboy says...
1:33pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Jed,we need to sort these contracts out
Jed:Don't worry,I'm on the blower to Ticket master
Sorry Jed,what are you on about-the contracts of Ferry,Flint,Thomson and Collins.
Jed:I told ya,Ticket Master are on it now.
Jed,this is sounding like a disaster waiting to happen
Jed:Not yet-Bryan Ferry is on tour with Phil Collins,Mcguiness Flint -and guess what -the Thomson twins as well.
I am trying to get a job lot-get them all here under floodlights for the Easter Weekend
Oh for Christ sake Jed-the players contracts.What about the players.
Jed:Don't you know anything-The Ohio players split up years ago-besides,this is a rock concert.
Oh for F**ks sake,you absolute C**T!

London Red says...
2:27pm Fri 22 Mar 13

I refer you back to the attached article - if anyone is to blame for the "delay" then it is KM - not the board
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http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
s/headlines/10266120
.McCrory_happy_to_ha
nd_out_new_deals____
if_MacDonald_agrees/

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Players can not talk to other clubs until their deals expire - so unless they are doing dodgy underhand deals like Paynter - which we would be unable to anything about - there is no immeadeate rush
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You can twist a few weeks anyway you like so its a bit pointless
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Few to most people is 2 or 3 - April is in two weeks (i.e. not Monday but the Monday after so week 2) so the start of April is clearly 2-3 weeks away as 3 weeks time will only be W/C 8th April
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Like I said if you are really that unhappy - launch your own takeover bid - either on your own or via the Trust

ScottLeitch says...
2:55pm Fri 22 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
I refer you back to the attached article - if anyone is to blame for the "delay" then it is KM - not the board
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http://www.thisisswi

ndontownfc.co.uk/new

s/headlines/10266120

.McCrory_happy_to_ha

nd_out_new_deals____

if_MacDonald_agrees/


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Players can not talk to other clubs until their deals expire - so unless they are doing dodgy underhand deals like Paynter - which we would be unable to anything about - there is no immeadeate rush
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You can twist a few weeks anyway you like so its a bit pointless
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Few to most people is 2 or 3 - April is in two weeks (i.e. not Monday but the Monday after so week 2) so the start of April is clearly 2-3 weeks away as 3 weeks time will only be W/C 8th April
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Like I said if you are really that unhappy - launch your own takeover bid - either on your own or via the Trust
Is anyone happy at the moment, with the way the club is being run?.

Mikeyg107 says...
3:05pm Fri 22 Mar 13

If anyone is 'happy' or satisified with the way the club is being run - then I believe your standards need to be raised!!

This is a complete joke. If the board were honest in saying we aren't spending any money and gave us the truth they would at least still have their credibility.

I for one wont be treated like an idiot.

London Red says...
3:30pm Fri 22 Mar 13

I'm not saying anyone is delighted or even happy - it just a few of us are prepared to give the board more than 5 minutes before condemning them - especially when everthing they are being condemned for has come from before they arrived!
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We went into an embargo under Black, PdC quit under Black, Ritchie was sold under Black and BY Black etc!
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Everything else is just made up sh@t which no one has any clue about
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All this talk of they don't want promotion, they want shot of all our stars etc is pure made up nonsence without any substance whatsoever by random posters on here
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Sorry but I not going to simply take posters who have no knowledge of what is actually happening as fact - I will wait to see what actually happens
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Jed has said we will be out of the embargo by 28th March and will reveal all then - so I will give him until the Easter Weekend to sort it and make a statment/give an interview - otherwise as said elsewhere he will lose his "word" card - PdC has certainly lost his - his was worth more than 15,000 contracts!
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He has said he will sit down with players to discuss contracts in a few weeks - so I will give him until mid April to show this is happened
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That's just being rational!
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Like I have said before -if anyone doesn't like the new board - the Trust are holding an AGM on 27th March - join - go along - and propose a takeover
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Remember this board are a bunch of jokers who haven't got a pot to p1ss and and apparentkly only paid out £1 to get a debt free club in tip top condition - so why can't the fans buy them out and do a better job??????

Since 1950 says...
4:04pm Fri 22 Mar 13

From the tone of it the message is; if we're not in the Championship next season then expect some/all of our out of contract players to be gone.

From that you can read that unless we do it this season then there wont be a challenge next.

P*ssed Off says...
4:07pm Fri 22 Mar 13

London Red: "a debt free club in tip top condition" - don't make me laugh.....furthermor
e "why can't the fans buy them out" - again don't make me laugh.....it is hard enough getting the people on here to understand just what this board may have taken on, what on e of these people would put their hand in their pocket to help buy the club? half of them don't even attend the matches!!
Give us a break and let the board do their thing, the manager manage and the players get us up where we belong!!

RED-MERLIN says...
4:45pm Fri 22 Mar 13

what happened to the gov ?

stfc4ever!! says...
4:54pm Fri 22 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
I'm not saying anyone is delighted or even happy - it just a few of us are prepared to give the board more than 5 minutes before condemning them - especially when everthing they are being condemned for has come from before they arrived! . We went into an embargo under Black, PdC quit under Black, Ritchie was sold under Black and BY Black etc! . Everything else is just made up sh@t which no one has any clue about . All this talk of they don't want promotion, they want shot of all our stars etc is pure made up nonsence without any substance whatsoever by random posters on here . Sorry but I not going to simply take posters who have no knowledge of what is actually happening as fact - I will wait to see what actually happens . Jed has said we will be out of the embargo by 28th March and will reveal all then - so I will give him until the Easter Weekend to sort it and make a statment/give an interview - otherwise as said elsewhere he will lose his "word" card - PdC has certainly lost his - his was worth more than 15,000 contracts! . He has said he will sit down with players to discuss contracts in a few weeks - so I will give him until mid April to show this is happened . That's just being rational! . Like I have said before -if anyone doesn't like the new board - the Trust are holding an AGM on 27th March - join - go along - and propose a takeover . Remember this board are a bunch of jokers who haven't got a pot to p1ss and and apparentkly only paid out £1 to get a debt free club in tip top condition - so why can't the fans buy them out and do a better job??????
Agree completely. People seem to forget this takeover was completed VERY quickly so its fair to assume that not everything has been cleaned up as it would have done had it been done during a standard takeover timescale.

Like you say Jed has said 100% the embargo will be lifted before next thursday therefore I will hold my judgement on him till then.

People want instant success and instant answers but sometimes patience and faith is needed!!

KEEP THE FAITH!!
UP THE REDS!!
3 POINTS TOMORROW MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER!!

London Red says...
5:02pm Fri 22 Mar 13

1950 - I think you are right and for two reasons
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1 - They will want to leave to move up to the Championship if they think they are good enough and have offers
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2 - We have spent way too much on players wages in the past few years - so we may not be able to afford some of them
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Some will just have to get use to the fact that without someone like Black covering the losses that level of spending is simply not possible
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As we have clearly seen this year having them covered is very risky as we were minutes from admionstration because of ity and lost our star player for peanuts

LeGod says...
5:24pm Fri 22 Mar 13

i reckon the GUV was JED funny how he disappeared when the takoever took place.
He likes a Tweet and i would put money on it being JED and the name as well as chairman he is the GUV.

London Red says...
5:56pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Just read an interview in the Standard with Sam Saunders
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Despite him currently staring in Brentford's return to form he is out of contract in the summer and as yet has had no discussions about a new one
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Funny I thought it was only our jokers who were not renewing contracts at this point rather than it being the norm

Oxon-Red says...
6:19pm Fri 22 Mar 13

madterrier wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
madterrier wrote: This is not dangerous - it's incredibly stupid. We MUST get Thompson signed up on a new contract NOW. If we don't, the new regime may well lose this club hundreds of thousands of pounds, or more. It doesn't matter which League we are playing in next season. I realise that might affect whether some of the other players are required, but not Thompson. It's such a no-brainer. I'm baffled.
Even if we offered contracts now there is a chance they won't be signed until May or later. This is a statement of fact, it is what happens, players have far more say in where they go. We would not necessarily lose out on thousands for Thompson unless he is released by the club. Because of his age, if he is offered a contract and another club comes in that he decides is better for him then a tribunal will set a transfer fee and add-ons. This is what happened to us with Coliins and Troy. Most clubs will be in exactly the same position as us, not knowing which league to prepare for. If you get relegated you have to offload to reduce bills like we did two seasons ago. If you get promoted you have to make a decision as to whether a player will make the step up. Like we did last season with Connell, Smith and Kennedy. We all want to see certain players stay but it doesn't really matter whether you offer the contract now or in a couple of months. COYMR
Well that's all fine then. Let's just leave it and hope for the best, and take these new guys at their word. I know the FL tribunal sets fees for young players, but they usually come as a disappointment to the selling club. Frankly I was amazed to learn that Thompson is out of contract this summer. But you're right - even if we offered new contracts now, the players may well say 'let's leave it to the summer'. Despite the on field heroics and entertainment, I guess I don't like being reminded what a shambles our club has become off the pitch. The game against Yeovil will have alerted more clubs. And LR - 'a few weeks' can mean anything. April is in ten days' time and the season ends the following month. All the article says is those dreaded words "The Adver understands" that the board intends to discuss possible new contracts but then that MacDonald admits there is no timeframe for this. Need to get your reading glasses on! There are pressing issues right now of course, although I regard protecting our existing assets of value as being as or even more important than being able to sign new young players on loan.
I think it is fine. If they don't have a nice new contract they will be looking to impress to earn a new one either with STFC or elsewhere. Nice two year contract, they can relax and wind down ready for their summer holidays.

Town probably have to sort the embargo out before they can offer new deals so probably have their hands tied anyway.

The players contracts expire after the end of the season, June at a guess. As London Red said nobody should be contacting them without the permission of the club.

The board are running the club poorly ? Why because we have not been told how much they are prepared to spend next season ?

Did the last board tell us what the budget for this season would be in March last year ?

Is the club being run poorly because they don't tell us anything ? They released a statement yesterday and most people, who obviously have a huge amount of inside knowledge, refused to believe half of what they said.

The Football League may well be being very strict with new takeovers having witnessed the messes that have been left behind in the past.

Leeds have just been bought but can continue, I believe, to sign players. Do they have a possible lawsuit hanging over them ? Don't think so. We do. think about it.

We have what we have and for the time being we have to put some trust in them. I am prepared to do that because in reality I have no choice.

COYMR

ps. Terrier, last part not aimed at you.

SimonPrice351 says...
7:09pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Heard that Storey and Thompson are being looked at by Arsenal.

I am beginning to worry if we actually have any money left at all...

London Red says...
7:34pm Fri 22 Mar 13

How is a top premiership club looking at our star youths anyway linked to the wealth of our owners????
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We had owners worth over £500m but still lost Henshall, Stephens and J.Thompson to big clubs!
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If Arsenal are scouting them that is a good thing as it means we have good players on our books - with one who is already contracted until next summer
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Both Thompson's have been scouted by Man U and Arsenal before so nothing new there
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As KM said we have a good reputation and our youth FA Cup and Milk Cup runs have only aided that

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9:36pm Fri 22 Mar 13

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My emails haven't been posted for the predictions league for the last two results threads or the Notts Co so please feel free to post on the MacDonald thread (see link below)...I'll nominate a thread from tomorrow for the results as I've been waiting to post the Brentford results for over a week now and the Yeovil results since Tuesday....so not expecting the Notts Co thread to go up until tomorrow:
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Nice to see an England team doing a positive job - 8-0 better than any others in the last 10yrs and good sharp interchanges....I was quietly content when Hodgson took over and not even thought of changing my mind...big game Tuesday though!!...good win to come as well...I'm certain of that!!

DarrenSTFCRomain says...
11:36pm Fri 22 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
I'm not saying anyone is delighted or even happy - it just a few of us are prepared to give the board more than 5 minutes before condemning them - especially when everthing they are being condemned for has come from before they arrived! . We went into an embargo under Black, PdC quit under Black, Ritchie was sold under Black and BY Black etc! . Everything else is just made up sh@t which no one has any clue about . All this talk of they don't want promotion, they want shot of all our stars etc is pure made up nonsence without any substance whatsoever by random posters on here . Sorry but I not going to simply take posters who have no knowledge of what is actually happening as fact - I will wait to see what actually happens . Jed has said we will be out of the embargo by 28th March and will reveal all then - so I will give him until the Easter Weekend to sort it and make a statment/give an interview - otherwise as said elsewhere he will lose his "word" card - PdC has certainly lost his - his was worth more than 15,000 contracts! . He has said he will sit down with players to discuss contracts in a few weeks - so I will give him until mid April to show this is happened . That's just being rational! . Like I have said before -if anyone doesn't like the new board - the Trust are holding an AGM on 27th March - join - go along - and propose a takeover . Remember this board are a bunch of jokers who haven't got a pot to p1ss and and apparentkly only paid out £1 to get a debt free club in tip top condition - so why can't the fans buy them out and do a better job??????
Somethings not right here London.

I have to agree with you AGAIN
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See i'm a nice person when you talk football and NOT STATS..

Good post

madterrier says...
12:33am Sat 23 Mar 13

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
London Red wrote:
I'm not saying anyone is delighted or even happy - it just a few of us are prepared to give the board more than 5 minutes before condemning them - especially when everthing they are being condemned for has come from before they arrived! . We went into an embargo under Black, PdC quit under Black, Ritchie was sold under Black and BY Black etc! . Everything else is just made up sh@t which no one has any clue about . All this talk of they don't want promotion, they want shot of all our stars etc is pure made up nonsence without any substance whatsoever by random posters on here . Sorry but I not going to simply take posters who have no knowledge of what is actually happening as fact - I will wait to see what actually happens . Jed has said we will be out of the embargo by 28th March and will reveal all then - so I will give him until the Easter Weekend to sort it and make a statment/give an interview - otherwise as said elsewhere he will lose his "word" card - PdC has certainly lost his - his was worth more than 15,000 contracts! . He has said he will sit down with players to discuss contracts in a few weeks - so I will give him until mid April to show this is happened . That's just being rational! . Like I have said before -if anyone doesn't like the new board - the Trust are holding an AGM on 27th March - join - go along - and propose a takeover . Remember this board are a bunch of jokers who haven't got a pot to p1ss and and apparentkly only paid out £1 to get a debt free club in tip top condition - so why can't the fans buy them out and do a better job??????
Somethings not right here London.

I have to agree with you AGAIN
....
See i'm a nice person when you talk football and NOT STATS..

Good post
Hang on Darren - London Red is taking issue with all of us posters who sense that something's not right, not agreeing with us!

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