MacDonald's case for the defence (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

For all you Australian fans out there - Tuesdays game (Yeovil v Swindon), is LIVE on SETANTA !. So get up early and watch it !. COYR.

Gone a bit flat recently, has our bubble burst? Recent results have been relegation form and nothing from the managers interviews have filled me with optimism. We obviously need some loan signings in but there seems absolutely no urgency in getting the embargo lifted and then getting these players in!

Looks like the board and manager are letting a wonderful opportunity slip away? Hope I'm wrong but I think play offs look our best bet now and unless we can pick things up we may not even achieve that as Walsall are looking likely to get into the top 6 soon!

Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

Lazaat wrote:
Gone a bit flat recently, has our bubble burst? Recent results have been relegation form and nothing from the managers interviews have filled me with optimism. We obviously need some loan signings in but there seems absolutely no urgency in getting the embargo lifted and then getting these players in!

Looks like the board and manager are letting a wonderful opportunity slip away? Hope I'm wrong but I think play offs look our best bet now and unless we can pick things up we may not even achieve that as Walsall are looking likely to get into the top 6 soon!

Sad but all very true.

Playoffs at best. A great opportunity has been wasted I afraid.....

Last time we made the play offs look what happened the following season.

Sad to say, but I can't see us getting through the play-offs with our current form.

According to local reports Paolo to be unveiled as Reading manager today. At least we can stand back & watch the roller coaster ride from afar & see how good a manager he really is

As I posted on the other thread - we all signed up again this season for the roller-coaster ride that is STFC
...and boy did we get one - who is to say that there aren't a couple of twists and turns yet to come despite a tired and battered squad.
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Had Robert's header hit the inside of the post on Tuesday night we could have been cheering a big win and 2nd place - this league is so close and 5 wins and 2 draws from the last 9 could yet secure 2nd.
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I would have taken the play-offs at the start of the season had it been offered and let's not forgot what this squad of players have been through this season.
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Glass half full again at the moment - albeit not quite as full as it was in mid-January. :-)

newburymike wrote:
According to local reports Paolo to be unveiled as Reading manager today. At least we can stand back & watch the roller coaster ride from afar & see how good a manager he really is

Report in the Daily Mail stating that Reading players have said they do NOT want him there!
Too fiery; lack of experience etc!
I wonder if he does get the job, whether there will be back-room antics from the players such as when AVB was at Chelski??

KM or Supermac to give you your recently accredited new title, although you don't seem to have warranted it yet, hindsight is a wonderful thing but it does not unfortunately give you back the points that have been thrown away to start with.
I share the concerns of many others that despite our still good position the play offs at best beckon because we're not cooking with gas the squad is threadbare and winning them is a pipe dream I think.
I hope KM's get up and go hasn't already get up and gone because he just doesn't sound or come across as convincing to moi!

Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

newburymike wrote:
According to local reports Paolo to be unveiled as Reading manager today. At least we can stand back & watch the roller coaster ride from afar & see how good a manager he really is

The circus is about to reconvene a few miles down the M4 - will it be a case of the ringmaster orchestrating the show or send in the clowns- one thing is for sure you Biscuit fans it ain't gonna be dull and MoTD's entertainment value will hit new heights - lets hope the dugouts are made with reinforced perspex/plastic lol!

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

robstfc wrote:

Lazaat wrote: Gone a bit flat recently, has our bubble burst? Recent results have been relegation form and nothing from the managers interviews have filled me with optimism. We obviously need some loan signings in but there seems absolutely no urgency in getting the embargo lifted and then getting these players in! Looks like the board and manager are letting a wonderful opportunity slip away? Hope I'm wrong but I think play offs look our best bet now and unless we can pick things up we may not even achieve that as Walsall are looking likely to get into the top 6 soon!

Sad but all very true. Playoffs at best. A great opportunity has been wasted I afraid.....

In respect of the Embargo - I'm not sure that there's a lack of urgency to get it lifted. What worries me is do we have the ability to get it lifted?
The news on this has dribbled out slowly over the last ten days or so. I suspect that not many of us had any idea that this embargo even existed.
It's moved from what seemed like optimistic comments from the Board at the start to pretty much complete silence since then - and the extent of what we need to overcome (if rumours can be believed) seems to be far greater than we had been led to believe.
If only the Club and the Football League were subject to freedom of information legislation!!
Come on Jed - we gave you a decent enough welcome - please have the decency to be straight about the situation.

Scribblemilk wrote:
Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

3 wins and 5 draws 1 loss in the nine games previous to Kmac taking over is hardly a winning side

Played 3, won 1 drawn 1 lost 1. That's not relegation form. Look at Paolo record for his first few games? We've played 3 of the better sides and looked the better team in all of them.
If Paolo was here he'd be blaming the board for not lifting the embargo and saying he needs to keep signing players (at a rate of one a fortnight) which just isn't sustainable. Kev just gets on with the job.
We make a lot of chance but don't take them, but that's been the same all season, and we desperately miss Ritchie - but that's life!
We might not go up, but that's not the end of the world. We've had a good season and played good football.
Impressed with Jed, Kevin and team, fully behind them and cheering on my team.

The Jockster wrote:

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

What a ridiculous and stupid analogy, particularly as it was a comment about Michael Howard.
The manager has been in charge for just three games. It didn't take long for the knives to come out, did it.
Get behind the team and stop all this critical nonsense.

akershaker wrote:
Played 3, won 1 drawn 1 lost 1. That's not relegation form. Look at Paolo record for his first few games? We've played 3 of the better sides and looked the better team in all of them. If Paolo was here he'd be blaming the board for not lifting the embargo and saying he needs to keep signing players (at a rate of one a fortnight) which just isn't sustainable. Kev just gets on with the job. We make a lot of chance but don't take them, but that's been the same all season, and we desperately miss Ritchie - but that's life! We might not go up, but that's not the end of the world. We've had a good season and played good football. Impressed with Jed, Kevin and team, fully behind them and cheering on my team.

Jed impresses you??? You're easily impressed then aren't you. Apart from buying the club for £1 and signing up MacDonald, what else has he done that impresses you?

Not rocket science then-don't go chasing the ball-Ward and Flint guilty on Tuesday of just that and defend the lead when you get it.Tactical defensive substitutions should have been made on Tuesday,especially if some were carrying a knock.We are not getting much return from sending Ward and Flint up for poor corners-exposing our defence for quick counter attack.We were lucky it wasn't 4 on Tuesday night.I thought McLevely was poor on Tues night-hence Ward being dragged out to the touchline.Got to get it right at Yeovil or we are going to slide away out of contention.

I have been coming onto this forum for quite along time now and i have seen some posts over the years that have infuriated me and incensed me but what i have been recently i truly can not believe.
The manager has had 3 games!! and people are calling him cr.ap un- inspiring,boring and comparing him to Malpass etc etc 3 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!
The new board are being called liars,
wanna bees, skint, not wanting promotion etc etc
I am sorry but i have never read such a croc of sh.t in my entire life.
How do you know they have no money?
How do you know they are liars?
How do you know they have no money or backers behind them?
How do you know they have no ambition and do not want promotion.?
As for people saying they think the players are not fit enough the players have said the training is harder,
I will give you a scenario if we had won the last 3 games would all of this negative cr.ap and people saying what they THINK and not what they know be posted on here.
After all we have had to put up with at swindon a group of men save us from the brink of financial ruin and administration and all some of our so called fans can do is berate them call them liars after only a couple of weeks in charge, what would you of rather had
ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!

!
lastly we are 4th in the table and after what we have had this season to put up with i thinks thats a fantastic achievement and its not over yet.
I am going to give Jed and co my support for helping my club, and give Kevin Mac my full support, If you are true swindon fans you will do it for your club SWINDON TOWN
Yes I know I posted this last night but it was late

The Jockster wrote:

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

no nor i
he looks like a bloke about to get the sack not someone who has just started

i sadi a number of times yesterday and i agree with all the comments made by people on here today.

Why do you change a winning formula???

We look vulnerable now when other teams attack us and its down to KM changing the formation of the team i dont get it why he has done what he ahs done.

Yes we have played 3 and won only 1 when we should have won all 3. Bad tactics in my book and he is P*****g me off already. All this rubbish about giving him a chance Yes if we were doen the bottom of the league and struggling im all up for changing the team to get a winning formula but when your at the top and its successful you dont change it. Somne people need to get a reality check.
Jed has got him in as a cheap option and so far he is proving to be the cheap option with his tactical naiviety and with all due respect to Cooper his number 2 he hasnt set the world on fire wherever he's been in fact his record is shocking.
Dont come on here either people saying people are being negative either about KM as you need to look at what is happenning.
Jed thinks he is running a conference south side here and beware what is around the corner. Players contracts up i nthe summer i can guarantee now they will get offered cheaper contracts to stay so expect the majority to go and a load of youth coming in and a season of struggle next season in L1.
I dont think there is any intent to get into the championship they will be happy with a play off final to get some money in and work from there and then say its been a successful season. This is our best ever chance to get out of this league and i cant see us doing it.

EMBARGO - Still dragging on and on and on and on so its a week tomorrow we were told its going to be sorted - Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

JED TELL US THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

alchafreds wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

no nor i
he looks like a bloke about to get the sack not someone who has just started

Good to see you all supporting the team. You must have had something really bad happen to you, for you to be so utterly negative. You have my sympathy.

davel4848 wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

no nor i
he looks like a bloke about to get the sack not someone who has just started

Good to see you all supporting the team. You must have had something really bad happen to you, for you to be so utterly negative. You have my sympathy.

if your happy with the situation
you have mine

Some of you need to get real.

We have lost a significant financial benefactor. Manager walked out on us.

Saved from admin and 4th in league.

Be thankful and support your club.

We are supporting the team but look at what is happenning on the pitch. 2 winning positions in the last 2 games 1point so is that promotion form - NO.

Walsall to me werent that good a side we made it easy for them to defend as we had no width as we were too narrow and to defend when everything is narrow is a defenders dream.
Brentford we were absolutley coasting it and again tactically i thought he got it wrong second half when he should have changed things. So you keep believing he s got it right as so far one win in three is rubbish.

heard from good source! the team were at Cheltenham races yday. i know we dont have match till tues but would pdc have let them out on pss after defeat

davel4848 wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

lifelongred wrote:
Come on people....he has been in charge for just 3 games....lets get behind kev and the team...onwards and upwards to the playoffs and promotion...COYR

We all want to but as someone once said (Ann Widdicombe?) about Michael Portillo - he seems to have something of the night about him. I'm just not getting the right vibes from Kevin at the moment I'm afraid.

What a ridiculous and stupid analogy, particularly as it was a comment about Michael Howard.
The manager has been in charge for just three games. It didn't take long for the knives to come out, did it.
Get behind the team and stop all this critical nonsense.

What's in a name the sentiment is still the same!
Sorry but to date his public personna just doesn't do it for me. I know it's early days the signs aren't good we should have beaten both walsall & brentford and the defensive c0ck ups just have to be sorted let alone our woeful striking rate. Haven't we gone from the tightest defence in the league to the slackest? Why's that happened then?

Well another day and still an embargo maybe tomorrow. But tomorrow never comes. This time next season we will be fighting relegation and I can see us droping down once again to the fourth division. Whilst some would say they are happy to just have a club to support they I'm afraid will be in short numbers our gates will drop to 5000. I'm not convinced with jed and his lot I know three weeks is not long but when you buy a club you would expect the new owners too have some money behind then but this does not seem the case otherwise it wouldn't take three weeks to get out of embargo. I fully agree with legod. Something's not right with this lot. I truly hope that I'm proved wrong.

Cookie43 wrote:
I have been coming onto this forum for quite along time now and i have seen some posts over the years that have infuriated me and incensed me but what i have been recently i truly can not believe.
The manager has had 3 games!! and people are calling him cr.ap un- inspiring,boring and comparing him to Malpass etc etc 3 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!
The new board are being called liars,
wanna bees, skint, not wanting promotion etc etc
I am sorry but i have never read such a croc of sh.t in my entire life.
How do you know they have no money?
How do you know they are liars?
How do you know they have no money or backers behind them?
How do you know they have no ambition and do not want promotion.?
As for people saying they think the players are not fit enough the players have said the training is harder,
I will give you a scenario if we had won the last 3 games would all of this negative cr.ap and people saying what they THINK and not what they know be posted on here.
After all we have had to put up with at swindon a group of men save us from the brink of financial ruin and administration and all some of our so called fans can do is berate them call them liars after only a couple of weeks in charge, what would you of rather had
ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!


!
lastly we are 4th in the table and after what we have had this season to put up with i thinks thats a fantastic achievement and its not over yet.
I am going to give Jed and co my support for helping my club, and give Kevin Mac my full support, If you are true swindon fans you will do it for your club SWINDON TOWN
Yes I know I posted this last night but it was late

Good post and totally agree. 3 games people it takes a little time. I know that we have stalled a little but everything is still achievable and has Ferry not scored twice in last few games ? Now is not the time to be having a dig at the manager and the board.....why do we all expect instant success ? I was a massive fan of PDC but he had money to literally throw away and didn't he just.

Stability is the key. This club in many years to come still being here is the most important thing I think we all agree.

We support our team, manager, each other... So let's stop digging and speculating and give the boys everything for the last couple of months of this season and who knows !! We may not have to worry about the play offs after all.

COYR !!

That's it had enough not going to read any more posts on here (probably). Okay hands up anyone who on starting a new job does not a) have a look at who they are working with b) try to make some changes to improve things? This poor guy has half the squad di Canio had, has been here five minutes, has played three good teams, has some slight knocks to deal with, a transfer embargo, had nothiing to do with the penalty or late equaliser this is just madness and doing my head in. Give him a chance, get behind the team blah blah.

If he is playing a player out of position it is probably because he can see a shortfall and is trying to fix it. This guy clearly knows what needs doing and if trying to do it with what is available. I am glad he is here - I think we will go up. I have a good friend who is a senior employee at Villa and he is adamant he will a) do a great job b) bring in good players c) have superb links across the game which is important.

Also the fact that chappie did not go to the game because he was trying to sort out the embargo suggests to me where priorities are!!!! Working for the club on a pressing matter or corporate hospitality? Speak volumes to me.

Lastly the Stratton Bank idea - brilliant, absolutely brilliant - does it not tell you anything about what they are wanting to achieve!

Sometimes I would rather read what Deancourt has to say. sorry rant over

COYR

Guess I am getting so old,first FL approve the deal I never knew we were undeer embargo after everything was sanctioned by the FL etc.
Now we find a 1.2 million pound bond has to be deposited.
STFC are a 1st div club.
I would bet none of the prenrere clubs have to put this amount in place??????
Also when you look at the debts of the bigger clubs it is scary.
If money is the problem ref this lateste Embargo why not just tell us,no more side stepping.
As for the nw Boss wish him well however his press is sounding more and more like Malpas.
Still thr fans nedd to be fair with him.
SO TRUTH PLEASE

buckobassettboy wrote:
Not rocket science then-don't go chasing the ball-Ward and Flint guilty on Tuesday of just that and defend the lead when you get it.Tactical defensive substitutions should have been made on Tuesday,especially if some were carrying a knock.We are not getting much return from sending Ward and Flint up for poor corners-exposing our defence for quick counter attack.We were lucky it wasn't 4 on Tuesday night.I thought McLevely was poor on Tues night-hence Ward being dragged out to the touchline.Got to get it right at Yeovil or we are going to slide away out of contention.

manager says his play a higher line,how can you play that when you got flint and ward whos got no pace,its ok playing that if maccasplaying at the back his the only one who can read the game and got pace,flint must come out of the side he cost us the last goal again at brentford

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Some of you need to get real.

We have lost a significant financial benefactor. Manager walked out on us.

Saved from admin and 4th in league.

Be thankful and support your club.

Exactly, we were saved. OK, at present it looks like we're surviving on a shoestring but better that than 15 point deductions or demotions. The manager walked remember, he couldn't hack it when it got really tough. Jed & co. have picked up the pieces, and I for one am greatful. Fcuk Reading, they can have the sulking child, I hope they all like pasta.

There is one basic fact that seems to be ignored. Paolo cleared the decks to bring in 3 loan players because he was not happy with the squad. That never happened. KMac inherited that situation and has not been free to address it.

joeyboy wrote:
For all you Australian fans out there - Tuesdays game (Yeovil v Swindon), is LIVE on SETANTA !. So get up early and watch it !. COYR.

lucky aussie fans for the eight years i was in perth i never got to see swindon live but i did watch dave mitchell turn out for sydney united against perth around 1997 a couple of years after i watched him v leicester at wembley

billbst wrote:
There is one basic fact that seems to be ignored. Paolo cleared the decks to bring in 3 loan players because he was not happy with the squad. That never happened. KMac inherited that situation and has not been free to address it.

What do you suggest then? Quick nip down the garden to the money tree?. We are a small club that has survived by the skin of its teeth.

bearwoodred wrote:
That's it had enough not going to read any more posts on here (probably). Okay hands up anyone who on starting a new job does not a) have a look at who they are working with b) try to make some changes to improve things? This poor guy has half the squad di Canio had, has been here five minutes, has played three good teams, has some slight knocks to deal with, a transfer embargo, had nothiing to do with the penalty or late equaliser this is just madness and doing my head in. Give him a chance, get behind the team blah blah.

If he is playing a player out of position it is probably because he can see a shortfall and is trying to fix it. This guy clearly knows what needs doing and if trying to do it with what is available. I am glad he is here - I think we will go up. I have a good friend who is a senior employee at Villa and he is adamant he will a) do a great job b) bring in good players c) have superb links across the game which is important.

Also the fact that chappie did not go to the game because he was trying to sort out the embargo suggests to me where priorities are!!!! Working for the club on a pressing matter or corporate hospitality? Speak volumes to me.

Lastly the Stratton Bank idea - brilliant, absolutely brilliant - does it not tell you anything about what they are wanting to achieve!

Sometimes I would rather read what Deancourt has to say. sorry rant over

COYR

Your mental, you have to be, to mention that scum bag, d**nc***t...

Good post, I think this is sustainable football, that so many posts ranted for suck it up, we won't get relegated, this season, so enjoy the season, get behind the team, players, cough manager...

COYMRs

It's not the change in formation that is exposing the defence to counter attacks - it's playing a high defensive line. For that you need defenders with a bit of pace. We've got two old fashioned, tall strong defenders - doesn't suit a high defensive line. Only Thompson has any pace, yet he's the one who has been caught out a few times.

Apparently KMac has asked the defence to play the ball out rather than hoof it. Again, fine if you've got players who are comfortable on the ball. If Miller and McEveley had put the ball into Row Z rather than put Wes under pressure, we could have avoided conceding that penalty.

It's alright bringing your own philosophy to your new team, but you have to have the players to implement it. And I would rather see changes made in the close season, not with ten games to go.

Adam Rooney looked lost in a midfield role at Brentford, yet we hardly have enough midfielders to play a 4-5-1. If we do, then two of them have to be wingers (Roberts, L.Rooney, De Vita) but he chose to use only one.

southside7 wrote:

billbst wrote:
There is one basic fact that seems to be ignored. Paolo cleared the decks to bring in 3 loan players because he was not happy with the squad. That never happened. KMac inherited that situation and has not been free to address it.

What do you suggest then? Quick nip down the garden to the money tree?. We are a small club that has survived by the skin of its teeth.

No southside. I was just making the point that KMac inherited that position so why all the criticism. I'm totally onside with living wthin our means.

LeGod wrote:
i sadi a number of times yesterday and i agree with all the comments made by people on here today.

Why do you change a winning formula???

We look vulnerable now when other teams attack us and its down to KM changing the formation of the team i dont get it why he has done what he ahs done.

Yes we have played 3 and won only 1 when we should have won all 3. Bad tactics in my book and he is P*****g me off already. All this rubbish about giving him a chance Yes if we were doen the bottom of the league and struggling im all up for changing the team to get a winning formula but when your at the top and its successful you dont change it. Somne people need to get a reality check.
Jed has got him in as a cheap option and so far he is proving to be the cheap option with his tactical naiviety and with all due respect to Cooper his number 2 he hasnt set the world on fire wherever he's been in fact his record is shocking.
Dont come on here either people saying people are being negative either about KM as you need to look at what is happenning.
Jed thinks he is running a conference south side here and beware what is around the corner. Players contracts up i nthe summer i can guarantee now they will get offered cheaper contracts to stay so expect the majority to go and a load of youth coming in and a season of struggle next season in L1.
I dont think there is any intent to get into the championship they will be happy with a play off final to get some money in and work from there and then say its been a successful season. This is our best ever chance to get out of this league and i cant see us doing it.

EMBARGO - Still dragging on and on and on and on so its a week tomorrow we were told its going to be sorted - Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

JED TELL US THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

Played 3, could easily have been 3wins or losses.

Coventry - excellent performance, just result but could eaasily have been a 1-0 defeat.
Walsall - the form team with quick & confident players, diapppointed to draw, penalty given on another day not & late equaliser, this happens.
Brentford - should of got a result, hit the post, if that had gone in then 3 points probably to us.
I notice from some stats (in the Cov programme amongst others) that we have hit the woodwork most in Div 1.
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I do find your comments negative, give it a rest, slating a manager after 3 games is not on.
Any appointment to manager you would say is a cheap option. If it had been a high profile manager would you have said "too expensive?"
Critising the board who have saved our club, whether they have loads of money or not, is better than Admistration/Insolve
ncy.
How do you know the players will be offered cheaper contracts?

There is a lot of "I" in your comments, yes you are entitled to your opinions, but you are negative.

The Embargo is frustating as getting s couple of new faces in will freshen up the squad, but we are in a very good position, 9 games to go & 2 points from the top. With a bit more luck in front of goal we will get promoted.

P.S Clubs in the play offs do not make loads extra money (apart from their own merchantising) as the good old Football League take it.

Keep the faith, we all want our team to progress.

COYR

southside7 wrote:

billbst wrote:
There is one basic fact that seems to be ignored. Paolo cleared the decks to bring in 3 loan players because he was not happy with the squad. That never happened. KMac inherited that situation and has not been free to address it.

What do you suggest then? Quick nip down the garden to the money tree?. We are a small club that has survived by the skin of its teeth.

southside, it might help if McCrory actually said something constructive. All we have had so far is a load of vague platitudes.

I think Bill has it spot on. I didn't interpret his post as demanding more spending. Rather, he was pointing out that MacDonald can't be blamed for a squad that the previous manager had already identified as weak.

Oi Den! wrote:

southside7 wrote:

billbst wrote:
There is one basic fact that seems to be ignored. Paolo cleared the decks to bring in 3 loan players because he was not happy with the squad. That never happened. KMac inherited that situation and has not been free to address it.

What do you suggest then? Quick nip down the garden to the money tree?. We are a small club that has survived by the skin of its teeth.

southside, it might help if McCrory actually said something constructive. All we have had so far is a load of vague platitudes.

I think Bill has it spot on. I didn't interpret his post as demanding more spending. Rather, he was pointing out that MacDonald can't be blamed for a squad that the previous manager had already identified as weak.

Yes, you may be right. Easy to misconstrue posts sometimes, so apologies Billbo. There may be unanswered questions like who are the investors etc that are not currently forthcoming, but in the meantime I think we can only look at the bigger picture, i.e. the consortium, even if short lived has given us a lifeline, without which, the alternative would be in the region of the apocalyptic.

RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

stfc-manila wrote:

newburymike wrote:
According to local reports Paolo to be unveiled as Reading manager today. At least we can stand back & watch the roller coaster ride from afar & see how good a manager he really is

Report in the Daily Mail stating that Reading players have said they do NOT want him there!
Too fiery; lack of experience etc!
I wonder if he does get the job, whether there will be back-room antics from the players such as when AVB was at Chelski??

just a bunch of namby pamby over paid poseurs who are scared of PDC. In a warped way, I hope he gets the job and frightens the living daylights of out them!
COYR

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

Include me in that LeGod for the record.

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

KMac took over a side that was well-drilled, disciplined, confident, stylish and top of the league having got better and better throughout the season.

Overnight, we have players playing out of position in a completely different shape and style and, centre backs being asked to play tippy-tappy football. Such radicle changes might be needed when a new manager takes over a struggling team at the bottom of the league but not at the top.

In a nutshell, too much revolution and not enough evolution causes uncertainty and destroys confidence.
COYR

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

Include me in that LeGod.

All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

MITTED wrote:

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

KMac took over a side that was well-drilled, disciplined, confident, stylish and top of the league having got better and better throughout the season.

Overnight, we have players playing out of position in a completely different shape and style and, centre backs being asked to play tippy-tappy football. Such radicle changes might be needed when a new manager takes over a struggling team at the bottom of the league but not at the top.

In a nutshell, too much revolution and not enough evolution causes uncertainty and destroys confidence.
COYR

Two excellent post and bang on the money and talking about money if the STFC board want my season ticket money then I want some answers to the many questions being asked in the recent days, come on Jed or who ever give me the plan of action and why has the manager started tinkering with a winning formula. I and many fans want to know before we commit for a season just where you aim to take our club and with what funds???????????// over to you Jed.

Scribblemilk wrote:
Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

Scribblemilk........
.more like dribbled your milk down your chin from your corn flakes. Blame, blame, blame....are you American with the blame culture seem to have? Give the man a chance for gods sake or did you apply for the managers post and are having sour grapes at not getting it? No, I thought not - we are all great managers, players etc from the sidelines and stands. Perhaps you should go to the training ground or the CG and tell Kevin exactly what you think to his face.....again probably not just as I thought. Oh and by the way this is not just aimed at you (you just happen to be the fall guy for today) but at all the moaners and groaners on this site. As Vic Morgan said in his column, This is our team, we are in it for the ride and for life......if you can't handle it, then off you go!! Does you boss at work tell you every little thing that goes on behind the scenes with what you might not agree or don't even know why the decisions have been taken? No, you just take your wages, keep your trap shut and keep your job. How about doing the same with STFC and let the board/manager get on with their job!!

MITTED wrote:

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

KMac took over a side that was well-drilled, disciplined, confident, stylish and top of the league having got better and better throughout the season.

Overnight, we have players playing out of position in a completely different shape and style and, centre backs being asked to play tippy-tappy football. Such radicle changes might be needed when a new manager takes over a struggling team at the bottom of the league but not at the top.

In a nutshell, too much revolution and not enough evolution causes uncertainty and destroys confidence.
COYR

Two excellent post and bang on the money and talking about money if the STFC board want my season ticket money then I want some answers to the many questions being asked in the recent days, come on Jed or who ever give me the plan of action and why has the manager started tinkering with a winning formula. I and many fans want to know before we commit for a season just where you aim to take our club and with what funds???????????// over to you Jed.

stfc-manila wrote:

newburymike wrote:
According to local reports Paolo to be unveiled as Reading manager today. At least we can stand back & watch the roller coaster ride from afar & see how good a manager he really is

Report in the Daily Mail stating that Reading players have said they do NOT want him there!
Too fiery; lack of experience etc!
I wonder if he does get the job, whether there will be back-room antics from the players such as when AVB was at Chelski??

They don't want him there as these overpaid prima-donnas couldn't handle his regime! Whoever gets him is welcome to him after he sh*t on us!!

Adver get onto Jed today, I expect a statement!

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

EMBARGO...........CO
ME ON ADVER FIND OUT WHATS GOING ON ???????????????

No answers then no season ticket I am not investing in something I am unsure about.

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

I did in fact write to the club and complain, yes, did you ?

P*ssed Off wrote:

Scribblemilk wrote:
Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

Scribblemilk........

.more like dribbled your milk down your chin from your corn flakes. Blame, blame, blame....are you American with the blame culture seem to have? Give the man a chance for gods sake or did you apply for the managers post and are having sour grapes at not getting it? No, I thought not - we are all great managers, players etc from the sidelines and stands. Perhaps you should go to the training ground or the CG and tell Kevin exactly what you think to his face.....again probably not just as I thought. Oh and by the way this is not just aimed at you (you just happen to be the fall guy for today) but at all the moaners and groaners on this site. As Vic Morgan said in his column, This is our team, we are in it for the ride and for life......if you can't handle it, then off you go!! Does you boss at work tell you every little thing that goes on behind the scenes with what you might not agree or don't even know why the decisions have been taken? No, you just take your wages, keep your trap shut and keep your job. How about doing the same with STFC and let the board/manager get on with their job!!

I agree with a lot of that. I certainly can't understand the criticism of MacDonald. The man has inherited a squad that was already on the slide. Let's not forget the results and performances we put in just before he arrived. The Tranmere win was impressive on the surface but it was against a team 7 players short of its best starting line-up. We played well at Coventry, not so well against Walsall (a good side) but got a deserved point, and superbly at Brentford for the first half and a bit more. Of course he has to take responsibility for the collapse in the last 20 minutes but it was the players who lacked the character to see it through - and they are not "his" players. I think he's done as well as can be expected. Let's give the man a chance.

What I would say though is that I think the club not being trusted to sign new players, several weeks after the takeover, is not just a little thing happening behind the scenes. It's a major concern. I am astounded that McCrory says "I just leave all that to my lawyers". Are the lawyers going to talk to us then?

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager?
To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh?
Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion.

But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated.

How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got.

More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income.

The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it.

As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

everyone has got this idea in their brain that those of us that are moaning are being negative - how many times t=do we have to spell it out so i will do it one last time.

WHY CHANGE A WINNING FORMATION THAT GOT US TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE.?


CAN WE BE TOLD ABOUT THE EMBARGO ?

THREE WEEKS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE SORTED UNLESS I HAVE BEEN ASLEEP FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME NOTHING HAS HAPPENNED.

So Yes Wiz im being negative those are really negative questions.

OTR, very good post (if you'll permit me to say so!)

cheer up everyone!
look on the bright side, the transfer embargo is getting lifted this week...

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

So Wiz,

Did you ever get your meeting with Di canio??

LeGod wrote:
everyone has got this idea in their brain that those of us that are moaning are being negative - how many times t=do we have to spell it out so i will do it one last time.

WHY CHANGE A WINNING FORMATION THAT GOT US TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE.?


CAN WE BE TOLD ABOUT THE EMBARGO ?

THREE WEEKS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE SORTED UNLESS I HAVE BEEN ASLEEP FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME NOTHING HAS HAPPENNED.

So Yes Wiz im being negative those are really negative questions.

Then why not at least write to Jed at the club and ask the questions and do something positive and constructive. Then if he doesn't answer your reservations will be proven to a point.

"For all you Australian fans out there - Tuesdays game (Yeovil v Swindon), is LIVE on SETANTA !. So get up early and watch it !. COYR.”

I came back for 3 home games, 3 of the most pathetic displays ever. I just returned to oz today and starting to thaw out. so, I'll get up at "sparrows ****" but, I really dont expect any fight, desire or passion after what I saw !

Di kanny oh wrote:
No answers then no season ticket I am not investing in something I am unsure about.

you and 1,500 others

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o)

COYR

Oi Den! wrote:
OTR, very good post (if you'll permit me to say so!)

Thanks den

The Jockster wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager?
To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh?
Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

Thanks for the laugh, Jockster. You brightened my day!
COYR

the wizard wrote:

LeGod wrote:
everyone has got this idea in their brain that those of us that are moaning are being negative - how many times t=do we have to spell it out so i will do it one last time.

WHY CHANGE A WINNING FORMATION THAT GOT US TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE.?


CAN WE BE TOLD ABOUT THE EMBARGO ?

THREE WEEKS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE SORTED UNLESS I HAVE BEEN ASLEEP FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME NOTHING HAS HAPPENNED.

So Yes Wiz im being negative those are really negative questions.

Then why not at least write to Jed at the club and ask the questions and do something positive and constructive. Then if he doesn't answer your reservations will be proven to a point.

Wiz, don't you think the ball is firmly in McCrory's court? Transparency does not seem to be the watchword of this regime.

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o)

COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open.

Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

MITTED wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager?
To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh?
Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

Thanks for the laugh, Jockster. You brightened my day!
COYR

OTR - to continue the footie theme "nice one Cyril nice one son" pencils to all those who can remember his surname and who he played for? Easy one!
MITTED- my pleasure mon ami!

LeGod wrote:
everyone has got this idea in their brain that those of us that are moaning are being negative - how many times t=do we have to spell it out so i will do it one last time.

WHY CHANGE A WINNING FORMATION THAT GOT US TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE.?


CAN WE BE TOLD ABOUT THE EMBARGO ?

THREE WEEKS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE SORTED UNLESS I HAVE BEEN ASLEEP FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME NOTHING HAS HAPPENNED.

So Yes Wiz im being negative those are really negative questions.

That winning team had Ritchie, Hollands, Bostock, Martin and a fit Devera this side does not. Hence trying Ferry on the right because the service has gone! Remember how bad we were when Ward and Miller took over? Surely a big improvement since then and a clear intention to play football and remove the errors. A different ref and we would have beaten Walsall in my opinion and you cannot blame the manager for the 10 minute spell against Brentford a game we should have by that point been out of sight! Look at the positives for heaven's sake! It is going to get better.

A win at Yeovil and off we go.

On a different point, have noticed on BBC Donny have signed Dean Furman from Oldham. Experienced, hard & quality player. Fans favouite & previous player of the year. This is the sort of signing we should be looking at.

This bloody embaro is getting more than frustrating! When it is lifted the kids we get in from Spurs or whoever will be expected to take the pressure & hit the ground running.

COYR

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped.

It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!!

If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis.

Kmac was the cheap option ?

Was he ?

Who was the expensive option ?

Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ?

Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!!

I know who I would prefer.

It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO.

I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre.

If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this.

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so".

COYMR

Oxon, some of us just want the owners to do some straight talking. If the club has to be run as a tight ship, fine. Maybe it's about time. We can live with that. But we've been told that the manager is going to get the same playing budget as PDC. Oh yes? When they can't even convince the Football League that we can be trusted to sign players? Sorry, but there's an unmistakable whiff of bullshiit in the air.

STFCman&boy1973 wrote:

bearwoodred wrote: That's it had enough not going to read any more posts on here (probably). Okay hands up anyone who on starting a new job does not a) have a look at who they are working with b) try to make some changes to improve things? This poor guy has half the squad di Canio had, has been here five minutes, has played three good teams, has some slight knocks to deal with, a transfer embargo, had nothiing to do with the penalty or late equaliser this is just madness and doing my head in. Give him a chance, get behind the team blah blah. If he is playing a player out of position it is probably because he can see a shortfall and is trying to fix it. This guy clearly knows what needs doing and if trying to do it with what is available. I am glad he is here - I think we will go up. I have a good friend who is a senior employee at Villa and he is adamant he will a) do a great job b) bring in good players c) have superb links across the game which is important. Also the fact that chappie did not go to the game because he was trying to sort out the embargo suggests to me where priorities are!!!! Working for the club on a pressing matter or corporate hospitality? Speak volumes to me. Lastly the Stratton Bank idea - brilliant, absolutely brilliant - does it not tell you anything about what they are wanting to achieve! Sometimes I would rather read what Deancourt has to say. sorry rant over COYR

Your mental, you have to be, to mention that scum bag, d**nc***t... Good post, I think this is sustainable football, that so many posts ranted for suck it up, we won't get relegated, this season, so enjoy the season, get behind the team, players, cough manager... COYMRs

Great post bear - totally agree.
We've played some nice football on the deck since k-mac.

The only reason that k-mac is forced to be experimental at such a critical stage in the season is because Pdc walked out on us at such a critical stage!

Coyr's - I'm right behind the new regime!

bearwoodred wrote:

LeGod wrote:
everyone has got this idea in their brain that those of us that are moaning are being negative - how many times t=do we have to spell it out so i will do it one last time.

WHY CHANGE A WINNING FORMATION THAT GOT US TO THE TOP OF THE TABLE.?


CAN WE BE TOLD ABOUT THE EMBARGO ?

THREE WEEKS AGO IT WAS GOING TO BE SORTED UNLESS I HAVE BEEN ASLEEP FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME NOTHING HAS HAPPENNED.

So Yes Wiz im being negative those are really negative questions.

That winning team had Ritchie, Hollands, Bostock, Martin and a fit Devera this side does not. Hence trying Ferry on the right because the service has gone! Remember how bad we were when Ward and Miller took over? Surely a big improvement since then and a clear intention to play football and remove the errors. A different ref and we would have beaten Walsall in my opinion and you cannot blame the manager for the 10 minute spell against Brentford a game we should have by that point been out of sight! Look at the positives for heaven's sake! It is going to get better.

A win at Yeovil and off we go.

Agree with most of your post but a different ref may well have given Walsall a penalty for McEveley pulling their striker back in the box. If this..., if that... If your granny had b@lls, she'd be your granddad. Both teams deserved no more and no less than a point from that game.

Di kanny oh wrote:

MITTED wrote:

LeGod wrote:
RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it.

I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong.

Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

KMac took over a side that was well-drilled, disciplined, confident, stylish and top of the league having got better and better throughout the season.

Overnight, we have players playing out of position in a completely different shape and style and, centre backs being asked to play tippy-tappy football. Such radicle changes might be needed when a new manager takes over a struggling team at the bottom of the league but not at the top.

In a nutshell, too much revolution and not enough evolution causes uncertainty and destroys confidence.
COYR

Two excellent post and bang on the money and talking about money if the STFC board want my season ticket money then I want some answers to the many questions being asked in the recent days, come on Jed or who ever give me the plan of action and why has the manager started tinkering with a winning formula. I and many fans want to know before we commit for a season just where you aim to take our club and with what funds???????????// over to you Jed.

We did not have a winning formula 3wins 5 draws,and 1 loss 14 points out of 27 do you think that is ok?

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order!

Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week.

Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh!

No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.

Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

I will be purchasing my season ticket next week. It is the club I support and whether or not I agree with some of the going's on, that will never change.

Sorry to hear about the three awful games you watched whilst back in England, Bast01. Which 3 games were they ?.

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order!

Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week.

Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh!

No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.

Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

What would you of rather had then?
Administration!!!!!
This is the hand we have been dealt with
This or admin with points deduction
The football league decides when we come out of embargo according to advertiser we have done what we can just waiting on FL
Jesus just be thankful they pulled us out the cr.ap!!!
Would you really of wanted admin instead of where we are??
Black left Pdc left
We were up the creek without a paddle
They dragged us out if a world of **** and all we can do is moan moan demand answers they owe us nothing at the moment apart from our thanks for stopping admin and saving us
So stop all the negativity and get on with supporting the team !!!
I for one will be at Yeovil and be proud I still have a club to support win loose or draw!! And my season ticket will be renewed for next season whatever division we are in cause I support Swindon Town through thick and thin good and bad !!!!!

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order!

Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week.

Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh!

No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.

Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

Sorry then 1950, I with draw my post and the comments.

If everybody is so convinced that they are right then I bow to their greater intellect and confidence that the club is on route to going down the pan and that the new owners are nothing more than a bunch of chancers as was noted in an earlier post.

I take it then most are not renewing their season tickets ?

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order! Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week. Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh! No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into. Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

What would you of rather had then? Administration!!!!! This is the hand we have been dealt with This or admin with points deduction The football league decides when we come out of embargo according to advertiser we have done what we can just waiting on FL Jesus just be thankful they pulled us out the cr.ap!!! Would you really of wanted admin instead of where we are?? Black left Pdc left We were up the creek without a paddle They dragged us out if a world of **** and all we can do is moan moan demand answers they owe us nothing at the moment apart from our thanks for stopping admin and saving us So stop all the negativity and get on with supporting the team !!! I for one will be at Yeovil and be proud I still have a club to support win loose or draw!! And my season ticket will be renewed for next season whatever division we are in cause I support Swindon Town through thick and thin good and bad !!!!!

And those of us that ask questions are negative and not real Town fans then Cookie?

Administration, or the threat of it, was lifted with the sale of Ritchie - not the take over by Jed &Co so you need to get that right for a start.

When that money runs out there is no guarantee that the threat wont be back as far as I can tell.

It's ok. Just ignore it. Heads back in the sand, it might go away.

IF the board had any money we would have been out of embargo ,they are skint in footbal terms ,ok they bravely stepped in and bought the club for the fortuna dusseldorf sum of 1 quid and took on its debts etc but if these guys were serious players that should have been sorted by now ,alas not and wont be anytime soon .
We need a russian a chinaman or an indian we deff dont need cowboys though!! with ten gallon hats on six pint heads.old mcdonald had a team eei eei oh and down the leauge we will go eeei eei oh.

the wizard wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order! Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week. Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh! No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into. Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

Sorry then 1950, I with draw my post and the comments. If everybody is so convinced that they are right then I bow to their greater intellect and confidence that the club is on route to going down the pan and that the new owners are nothing more than a bunch of chancers as was noted in an earlier post. I take it then most are not renewing their season tickets ?

It's okay Wiz were are all prone to outburst at the moment, myself included.

I do hope I am wrong about the latest occupants of SN1, believe me.

As far as season ticket renewal goes, well we'll wait and see. I have yet to renew mine. I was going to do it this week but having just got a £1,000+ bill for my car I am not sure I can afford it just yet!

I am sure there will be many who wait until the last minute to see how the land lies.

Scribblemilk wrote:
Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

I so agree with everything you say, he is approaching things in an inexperienced way to say the least. My other concern is his apparent attitude towards what can only be described as mediocre performances. All he say's is the more good performances the more games we'll win lol. Did he learn that at Villa? Is that the best he can come up with? We need new players urgently and get back to the tried and tested shape. These players do not have enough time and games left to get used to big changes, everything looks wrong to me. Having said that we play are best football on the ground and that has only come back intermittently, so surely he would be better off making sure we are doing that throughout the whole match. At the last home match it was so obvious to anyone who understands football and what this Swindon team are best at. This will only get worse IMHO.

what rhymes with mccrory oh i know jackanory !

Don't get me wrong, thanks to he'd and co for buying the club.

However I'm getting the distinct impression that this job is just to big for them.

They may be nice guys with a bit if business experience.

But f@£k me were talking about running a division 1 team angling for the potentially juicy championship.

I just feel we need some big hitters running the club, not some mates running the local corner shop which this feels like!!

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped.

It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!!

If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis.

Kmac was the cheap option ?

Was he ?

Who was the expensive option ?

Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ?

Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!!

I know who I would prefer.

It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO.

I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre.

If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this.

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so".

COYMR

Oxon, i'm finding it difficult to understand what your point is. With regards mentioning Mitchell and B'Muff what is that to do with our present situation, we don't have a Russian Oligarch, we have a bunch of entreprenures that don't seem to have any "loose change" or as you say a pot to p**s in.

Every other team in div 1 except for Coventry and us have brought in loanees in the last 6 weeks, the reason we haven't done so is down to the board, not the old board, not the FL, not the manager or the players or the fans. THE BOARD have not lived upto any of the promises they made, it's not just me or others that are concerned, it's not Sam or the Adver that are unable to shed any light on what's happening, it's the CHAIRMAN of the BOARD who made a fool of himself on SKY when he said he'd welcome back paolo if he called him and another empty quote that he would endorse the loanees he wanted without the means to do it. He made the same promises to Mac, he is skipping and jumping from giving one honest answer of the real situation and passing the buck to Murrell or his lawyers. A Luton wide boy. With no disrespect to market people the guy is beginning to look like a clown I'm. wondering if we have our very own Dell Boy, has he ever run a market stall, because that is what he is beginning to sound like it, step up Mr knightly when he tried to take over United.

One honest answer from Jed and most would accept that the situation is going to get resolved on ........... or it ain't going to happen any time soon because of..............

Honesty Mr McCory is the best policy, not the bulls**t you seem to wallow in.

On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o)

COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open.

Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Jed was there too, but I can't remember him sitting down with Murrall, I think Steve gave answers to most of the answers of questions being asked on this forum. if they were the right answers is another question.

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped.

It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!!

If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis.

Kmac was the cheap option ?

Was he ?

Who was the expensive option ?

Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ?

Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!!

I know who I would prefer.

It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO.

I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre.

If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this.

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so".

COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

The story of JED leaving the Embargo to his lawyers to sort is a total whitewash. If they are determined to get to the championship he should be fighting tooth and nail alongside his lawyers to sort it with the FA the excuse can then be the legal side was the issue.

Doesnt wash with me Jed i'm afraid total poppycock.

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order!

Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week.

Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh!

No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.

Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

Which 'Towers' will the STFC supporter prefer?

Mandela, Alton, Fawlty?

I'm going for the Leaning Tower right now, but no longer with an Italian influence.

Since 1950 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order! Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week. Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh! No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into. Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

What would you of rather had then? Administration!!!!! This is the hand we have been dealt with This or admin with points deduction The football league decides when we come out of embargo according to advertiser we have done what we can just waiting on FL Jesus just be thankful they pulled us out the cr.ap!!! Would you really of wanted admin instead of where we are?? Black left Pdc left We were up the creek without a paddle They dragged us out if a world of **** and all we can do is moan moan demand answers they owe us nothing at the moment apart from our thanks for stopping admin and saving us So stop all the negativity and get on with supporting the team !!! I for one will be at Yeovil and be proud I still have a club to support win loose or draw!! And my season ticket will be renewed for next season whatever division we are in cause I support Swindon Town through thick and thin good and bad !!!!!

And those of us that ask questions are negative and not real Town fans then Cookie?

Administration, or the threat of it, was lifted with the sale of Ritchie - not the take over by Jed &Co so you need to get that right for a start.

When that money runs out there is no guarantee that the threat wont be back as far as I can tell.

It's ok. Just ignore it. Heads back in the sand, it might go away.

Ohh come on Ritchie was sold to help cover wages until end of season
If jed and co had not been there it was only a matter of time before admin happened. Then what after Ritchie sell Wes to keep admin at bay after that sell Thompson after that sell McCormack ??? The moaners would of been out in force if we had to keep selling players
Black had stopped paying the bills!!
So you need to wake up and smell the coffee who was going to keep us going then?
You have no substance to your argument apart from what you think.
They took on Swindon before it went into oblivion because black left
I for one will be happy if they keep us ticking along on an even keel better that than sinking into the abyss
Be thankful you still have a club to support

Getting a bit fed up of reading "would you rather have administration"
The takeover is now complete.
What we as supporters need now are the plans for the future.
Surely a football club needs to outline their plans to their customers i.e. me
The silence regarding the embargo is deafening.
Where are the answers?

red steam zulu wrote:
IF the board had any money we would have been out of embargo ,they are skint in footbal terms ,ok they bravely stepped in and bought the club for the fortuna dusseldorf sum of 1 quid and took on its debts etc but if these guys were serious players that should have been sorted by now ,alas not and wont be anytime soon .
We need a russian a chinaman or an indian we deff dont need cowboys though!! with ten gallon hats on six pint heads.old mcdonald had a team eei eei oh and down the leauge we will go eeei eei oh.

Don't come on here talking about Bournemouth. Go to the Echo site please.

The Jockster wrote:

MITTED wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote:
All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager?
To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh?
Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

Thanks for the laugh, Jockster. You brightened my day!
COYR

OTR - to continue the footie theme "nice one Cyril nice one son" pencils to all those who can remember his surname and who he played for? Easy one!
MITTED- my pleasure mon ami!

Malk,

Who can forget the "nice one Cyril" chant for Cyril Knowles the Spurs and England fullback, you missed the last 2 lines, "Nice one Cyril, let's have another one".

Brother Peter played for Wolves I believe and turned to religion, a bit like that David Icke, you should read his book by the way, who and what is controlling the world and it isn't Paolo even though he missed out on the pope job, good job he did or we would all be calling him St Francis, lol.

Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about?

You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine.

When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Since 1950 wrote:
Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about?

You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine.

When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please
What do you want?
Black gone no money coming in from him
On the brink of admin
Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told
So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ?
Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline
What was the answer ??
If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me??
All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!!
I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel
I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club.
So come on tell us all
What was the answer?
We had no owner willing to put in another penny
A manager doing a runner
Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager
So what would you of done any different?
Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there.
As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Med Red wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped.

It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!!

If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis.

Kmac was the cheap option ?

Was he ?

Who was the expensive option ?

Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ?

Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!!

I know who I would prefer.

It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO.

I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre.

If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this.

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so".

COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

Med Red, I have on many occassions supported your views, but to say there are fans on here that want to see these guys fail and therefore see our club fail is to say the least, a tad unfair. I for one don't think there is one fan on here whatever their opinions that doesn't want to have that feel good euphorbia we had going into Xmas when we were the best team in Europe. I for one do not have that optimism at the moment due to lack of numbers within the squad, but I'm a season ticket holder and will continue to support the team until the last match of the season. The manager and the team have it in their own hands to complete what Paolo started, so please don't say there are fans that want to see them fail, that is completely untrue.

The board on the other hand have less time to demonstrate to the fans and prove what they are about. By 31st march when phase 1 of renewals are due, they should have procured £400k with pre-sales, but unless they have done something to deserve the fans support i think they will fall well short of that. I'm fully expecting a backlash of protest with a drop of sales and many fans will wait and see before committing to renewing, I maybe wrong of course, so let's wait and see what pans out.

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about?

You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine.

When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please
What do you want?
Black gone no money coming in from him
On the brink of admin
Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told
So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ?
Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline
What was the answer ??
If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me??
All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!!
I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel
I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club.
So come on tell us all
What was the answer?
We had no owner willing to put in another penny
A manager doing a runner
Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager
So what would you of done any different?
Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there.
As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh
at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

old town robin wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

MITTED wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager? To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh? Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

Thanks for the laugh, Jockster. You brightened my day! COYR

OTR - to continue the footie theme "nice one Cyril nice one son" pencils to all those who can remember his surname and who he played for? Easy one! MITTED- my pleasure mon ami!

Malk, Who can forget the "nice one Cyril" chant for Cyril Knowles the Spurs and England fullback, you missed the last 2 lines, "Nice one Cyril, let's have another one". Brother Peter played for Wolves I believe and turned to religion, a bit like that David Icke, you should read his book by the way, who and what is controlling the world and it isn't Paolo even though he missed out on the pope job, good job he did or we would all be calling him St Francis, lol.

Otr yep I did miss last two lines couldn't be arsed to type the words:) David Icke what a laugh he was and you're right Peter became St. Peter a hot gospeller.
Jed mccrory = Walter Mitty !

I think a lot of people are missing the point here.
All we want is information, be it good or bad so that we know which way the club is heading.
Come on Jed!

If and when paolo sues the club for breach of contract and he wins and we go into administration and folds what will happen to your season ticket money you paid?
Just a thought.
Onwards and uowards

smirg kcab wrote:
If and when paolo sues the club for breach of contract and he wins and we go into administration and folds what will happen to your season ticket money you paid?
Just a thought.
Onwards and uowards

wont happen but good point

sadgit wrote:
I think a lot of people are missing the point here.
All we want is information, be it good or bad so that we know which way the club is heading.
Come on Jed!

We're waiting for the FL to lift the Embargo!(they won't hurry)Jed said everything is in place!but some on here think what they wanna think add 2#2=5,load of doomsters,scare moongers!!!!!!!!!!

The Jockster wrote:

old town robin wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

MITTED wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Di kanny oh wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

Like you did with Di Canio then Wiz?

Di kanny oh - surely you're not insinuating that Wizard has double standards here? Oh wait a minute I've just read his post again and I think he may have after all he never moaned about PDc did he? As you say wonder why he come up with the same suggestion to make representation to the old board and manager? To quote Dumbledore himself-" I think he's overstepped the mark" here eh? Not to mention that he has referred to all those being critical as "aahhswipes" now that's not being very respectful to fellow posters is it? Maybe his celiac is playing him up and he's a tad grumpy - sorry to digress to my Dr Hilary hat I wouldn't have mentioned it had Wiz not given us chapter and verse about it. Hope you feel better soon Wiz we all have our own medical foibles to deal with its just that most of us don't feel inclined to go into print every time our chalfonts are playing up or to get back to a footie theme - our Nobby Stiles lol!

Thanks for the laugh, Jockster. You brightened my day! COYR

OTR - to continue the footie theme "nice one Cyril nice one son" pencils to all those who can remember his surname and who he played for? Easy one! MITTED- my pleasure mon ami!

Malk, Who can forget the "nice one Cyril" chant for Cyril Knowles the Spurs and England fullback, you missed the last 2 lines, "Nice one Cyril, let's have another one". Brother Peter played for Wolves I believe and turned to religion, a bit like that David Icke, you should read his book by the way, who and what is controlling the world and it isn't Paolo even though he missed out on the pope job, good job he did or we would all be calling him St Francis, lol.

Otr yep I did miss last two lines couldn't be arsed to type the words:) David Icke what a laugh he was and you're right Peter became St. Peter a hot gospeller.
Jed mccrory = Walter Mitty !

Water Mitty ? Or billy liar
Perhaps he Is hidding behind the mask
Of rocking robin listens and says nothing.
Makes you wonder why Watkins left, perhaps it was because he spoke to fellow fans.
Thought we was out of embargo as sm told us last week it would be done lol.
Onwards and upwards

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order! Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week. Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh! No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into. Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

Calm down Trigger! :-)

smirg kcab wrote:
If and when paolo sues the club for breach of contract and he wins and we go into administration and folds what will happen to your season ticket money you paid?
Just a thought.
Onwards and uowards

Paolo won't sue the club Grim!if he tried to no other club would ever employ him,he want's the Reading job!but their thinking twice about employing him,cause most of their fans don't want him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cookie43 wrote:
I have been coming onto this forum for quite along time now and i have seen some posts over the years that have infuriated me and incensed me but what i have been recently i truly can not believe.
The manager has had 3 games!! and people are calling him cr.ap un- inspiring,boring and comparing him to Malpass etc etc 3 GAMES!!!!!!!!!!
The new board are being called liars,
wanna bees, skint, not wanting promotion etc etc
I am sorry but i have never read such a croc of sh.t in my entire life.
How do you know they have no money?
How do you know they are liars?
How do you know they have no money or backers behind them?
How do you know they have no ambition and do not want promotion.?
As for people saying they think the players are not fit enough the players have said the training is harder,
I will give you a scenario if we had won the last 3 games would all of this negative cr.ap and people saying what they THINK and not what they know be posted on here.
After all we have had to put up with at swindon a group of men save us from the brink of financial ruin and administration and all some of our so called fans can do is berate them call them liars after only a couple of weeks in charge, what would you of rather had
ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!


!
lastly we are 4th in the table and after what we have had this season to put up with i thinks thats a fantastic achievement and its not over yet.
I am going to give Jed and co my support for helping my club, and give Kevin Mac my full support, If you are true swindon fans you will do it for your club SWINDON TOWN
Yes I know I posted this last night but it was late

well said!!

smirg kcab wrote:
If and when paolo sues the club for breach of contract and he wins and we go into administration and folds what will happen to your season ticket money you paid?
Just a thought.
Onwards and uowards

maybe best to pay monthly installments then!

It's that quiet on the news front that it feels like the club has already passed away.

Now I know why they went for someone like KM - he was so desperate for an opportunity to be the No1, they knew they'd have an easy to control 'yes' man, too frightened to ask really pertinent questions like 'wheres my transfer money gone?'
.
That's my conspiracy, erm I meant theory, or was it conspiracy theory! anyway.

avo wrote:
It's that quiet on the news front that it feels like the club has already passed away.

According to some Avo we have!are you going to the funeral LOL!!!!!!!!!!

The club should extend the season ticket offer into april due to the EMBARGOOO.

Dont buy a seson ticket until we know whats going on......come del boy sort it out.

old town robin wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped. It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!! If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis. Kmac was the cheap option ? Was he ? Who was the expensive option ? Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ? Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!! I know who I would prefer. It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO. I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre. If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this. I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so". COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

Med Red, I have on many occassions supported your views, but to say there are fans on here that want to see these guys fail and therefore see our club fail is to say the least, a tad unfair. I for one don't think there is one fan on here whatever their opinions that doesn't want to have that feel good euphorbia we had going into Xmas when we were the best team in Europe. I for one do not have that optimism at the moment due to lack of numbers within the squad, but I'm a season ticket holder and will continue to support the team until the last match of the season. The manager and the team have it in their own hands to complete what Paolo started, so please don't say there are fans that want to see them fail, that is completely untrue. The board on the other hand have less time to demonstrate to the fans and prove what they are about. By 31st march when phase 1 of renewals are due, they should have procured £400k with pre-sales, but unless they have done something to deserve the fans support i think they will fall well short of that. I'm fully expecting a backlash of protest with a drop of sales and many fans will wait and see before committing to renewing, I maybe wrong of course, so let's wait and see what pans out.

OTR, I was quoting Ox Reds views (badly obviously) and then adding my comments after. Which were... "I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club"

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, some of us just want the owners to do some straight talking. If the club has to be run as a tight ship, fine. Maybe it's about time. We can live with that. But we've been told that the manager is going to get the same playing budget as PDC. Oh yes? When they can't even convince the Football League that we can be trusted to sign players? Sorry, but there's an unmistakable whiff of bullshiit in the air.

I think you are correct o den. It took ages to get football league ratification on the takeover,and now it appears just as difficult to get the embargo lifted. They must have been told about the £1.2 m needed to be ring fenced when the t/over was first talked about. Money must be hard to get. Some criticism of the new board is justified, but I think it is unfair to be critical of Kmac after only 3 games. He has taken over without Richie,Hollands, Martin.

Hi as we are a rural club I think that they brought in a farm manager and did not realise we were top of div 1 how are some of you happy with that ????? Even his name is of the very old rhyme . The board are tosses with no money to take this club of ours forward I'm just glad that we have enough points not to get relegated . Malpas is a good likeness as neither has a clue what to do.

Reading Kmac's coloumn, I realise that he has only been in the job five minutes, and needs a lot more time, but does he have to sing from the same hymn sheets that all other unsuccesful managers preach from, same old cliche's and football talk. Please Kmac be ruthless and kick arse, thats why Di Canio was successful, and not have players quoting that training is just as hard, but we only spend half the time as we did with the previous manager, Kmac you have big shoes to fill !!!. Do not **** foot around let your playing staff know who is the boss. With the regime we had before, it was the last twenty minutes of a game where we showed our superiority and fitness while our oponents where flagging, but it seems the other way round at the moment.
What has happened to Mr Jed and Co have they got lost up their own embargo's????. Mr Ed, the talking horse, "showing my age now" used to say a lot more. "Promises but no deliverence".

Med Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped. It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!! If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis. Kmac was the cheap option ? Was he ? Who was the expensive option ? Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ? Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!! I know who I would prefer. It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO. I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre. If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this. I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so". COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

Med Red, I have on many occassions supported your views, but to say there are fans on here that want to see these guys fail and therefore see our club fail is to say the least, a tad unfair. I for one don't think there is one fan on here whatever their opinions that doesn't want to have that feel good euphorbia we had going into Xmas when we were the best team in Europe. I for one do not have that optimism at the moment due to lack of numbers within the squad, but I'm a season ticket holder and will continue to support the team until the last match of the season. The manager and the team have it in their own hands to complete what Paolo started, so please don't say there are fans that want to see them fail, that is completely untrue. The board on the other hand have less time to demonstrate to the fans and prove what they are about. By 31st march when phase 1 of renewals are due, they should have procured £400k with pre-sales, but unless they have done something to deserve the fans support i think they will fall well short of that. I'm fully expecting a backlash of protest with a drop of sales and many fans will wait and see before committing to renewing, I maybe wrong of course, so let's wait and see what pans out.

OTR, I was quoting Ox Reds views (badly obviously) and then adding my comments after. Which were... "I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club"

Apologise Med Red, I thought you were saying that fans want the club to fail with these appointments, what ever opinions we have, I'm sure nobody wants that.

Robinonfire wrote:
The club should extend the season ticket offer into april due to the EMBARGOOO.

Dont buy a seson ticket until we know whats going on......come del boy sort it out.

agree with that

At the mo my glass is still half full, even if my hand is a little shaky....

I wasn't at the Brentford game on Tuesday, so can anyone confirm whether tiredness may have been a factor in our defeat? I know under the previous regime we were the fittest i've seen us - however with a threadbare squad playing our 2nd game in three days maybe even with the previous manager we may have struggled away at a very decent Brentford side?

Jed - please get this E thing sorted - we do need a couple more experienced players in to help out. Considering everything thats happened our squad have been magnificent this season to manage to stay in contention, however I do feel they need some more bodies to help with freshness and competition for places....

If you go on to the mail on line and read the story about prince alwaleed bin tala says his in talkes to buy swindon town his worth 20 billion

harley red wrote:
Hi as we are a rural club I think that they brought in a farm manager and did not realise we were top of div 1 how are some of you happy with that ????? Even his name is of the very old rhyme . The board are tosses with no money to take this club of ours forward I'm just glad that we have enough points not to get relegated . Malpas is a good likeness as neither has a clue what to do.

I'm so pleased that you posted on here. The club are desperate to have lots more supporters just like you. Now go back up the A420.

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

HOOKEY wrote:
If you go on to the mail on line and read the story about prince alwaleed bin tala says his in talkes to buy swindon town his worth 20 billion

I think that's a six week old story.

its 7 days old

HOOKEY wrote:
If you go on to the mail on line and read the story about prince alwaleed bin tala says his in talkes to buy swindon town his worth 20 billion

Don't tell Sam he will write its Osama bin laden.
Onwards and upwards
Embargo should be complete today

Bassett Hound wrote:

Oi Den! wrote: Oxon, some of us just want the owners to do some straight talking. If the club has to be run as a tight ship, fine. Maybe it's about time. We can live with that. But we've been told that the manager is going to get the same playing budget as PDC. Oh yes? When they can't even convince the Football League that we can be trusted to sign players? Sorry, but there's an unmistakable whiff of bullshiit in the air.

I think you are correct o den. It took ages to get football league ratification on the takeover,and now it appears just as difficult to get the embargo lifted. They must have been told about the £1.2 m needed to be ring fenced when the t/over was first talked about. Money must be hard to get. Some criticism of the new board is justified, but I think it is unfair to be critical of Kmac after only 3 games. He has taken over without Richie,Hollands, Martin.

Den,

Don't disagree regarding statements but there might not be anything to report i.e. we are still in embargo (which we know) and we are waiting for the Football League (which again I think we may know).

The board has not been able to show the colour of their money because we are in an embargo. I think it unfair that they are labelled the way they have by some until they have the freedom to show us.

As for the Kmac appointment I think there will always be some that want a manager to fail simply because because they did not get the man of their choice. It happened with Paolo and the same will happen with the next manager.

Totally unfair to judge the man after 3 games with a shortage of fully fit players to choose from. Devera was clearly not fit when he came on on Saturday, Da Vita has been very poor recently, Luke Rooney could be risked maybe but is he match fit ? and Navarro is clearly off the pace.

We would have won on Saturday if Nathan had not picked up the knock. He and Miller were doubtful for Tuesday so the team selection and tactics may have been forced to provide cover for players that are not currently 100% this may also explain the team fading in the final quarter of the game.

I would like the embargo ended and some new faces brought in. We may then see what KMac is all about but until it happens he has a very short deck to deal from.

SAP,

Can I suggest that you have a final table question with total points in the prediction league. Not an easy question but it would be interesting just to see people's choices.

COYMR

HOOKEY wrote:
its 7 days old

This is old stuff HOOKEY as per the following: -

''Monday, January 21, 2013, 21:48:13 »

On Twitter some joker reckons Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal is one of the interested parties ! He's worth 50 billion US dollars apparently.''

Above from the TownEnd.com - a hangover from Patey.

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

1950,

Black did not drop us in it, he gave the club a life line. He sold it basically debt free. Had he dropped us in it, he would have put us into admin. The FL would have probably bounced us down a couple of tiers if not more. The upshot of that would have been all the players leaving, and no ground to play on as we would not have been able to afford the rent at CG. As it is we should be out of embargo tomorrow.
The fact that we have owners who are trying to do a bit we should be grateful for. If anyone else can do it better than them perhaps they should put themselves forward. Got a quid have you, then there you go. I'm very grateful they stepped in when they did, we are still here, and we still have a future.

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!
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Any new manager needs time. It's just a shame we are changing over at such a critical time. High pressure on the new 2 that is for sure. Why we have an embargo now is a bit silly after Jed stating funds would be available for loans. 3 young lads coming through is not what is needed I am afraid. PDC would have got us up I am pretty sure of that. Anyway, 6 concerts a year will solve all our problems. Not. Get the feeling the new lot don't have a clue, have lots of hangers on and are just happy to have a club. Anyway, we are still up there for now.

the wizard wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

1950,

Black did not drop us in it, he gave the club a life line. He sold it basically debt free. Had he dropped us in it, he would have put us into admin. The FL would have probably bounced us down a couple of tiers if not more. The upshot of that would have been all the players leaving, and no ground to play on as we would not have been able to afford the rent at CG. As it is we should be out of embargo tomorrow.
The fact that we have owners who are trying to do a bit we should be grateful for. If anyone else can do it better than them perhaps they should put themselves forward. Got a quid have you, then there you go. I'm very grateful they stepped in when they did, we are still here, and we still have a future.

Wiz!if Jed hadn't done the deal in Black's time frame,he would have put us in ADMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don,

Read my post again, I said precisely that.

Oxon, all we know is:

1. We are under a transfer embargo.

2. It has been suggested by one of the directors that this is because they have been asked to provide a pot of £1.2m, presumably to cover operating costs.

3. Last Saturday we were told that the introduction of the £1.2m was "in process" and would be complete on Monday - or Tuesday at the latest. Therefore we would be able to sign players before Tuesday's game.

4. The manager says he has no information. Presumably the Football League's condition has not been satisfied as we have heard nothing.

How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance?

For several years, I have renewed my season ticket at the earliest opportunity. Although I am sure I'll do it eventually, I am now holding back for a while. If people like me are thinking this way, imagine what it is going to be like to attract people who may have been unsure in the first place, or to attract new fans.

So far the new regime's public relations make Sir William Patey look like a good communicator.

For goodness sake Mr McCrory - say something!

I wish we could all agree to something like ', in reply to your previous post'
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Instead of using this **** quote button all the time and it taking forever to scroll down to 3 new posts at the bottom lol!
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See, I can moan too. It's not exclusive you know.

the wizard wrote:
Don,

Read my post again, I said precisely that.

Yes Wiz,but he would have dropped us in it,if JED had not done the deal in HIS time frame,he only gave us a very,very short lifeline!!!!!!!

sorry, meant "...if they don't communicate..."

what happened to the 'insert name here' bit in my last post? LOL moaning again..

Since 1950 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the wizard wrote:

MITTED wrote:

the wizard wrote: All of those who are dis satisfied with the new owners and the new manager should seek an alliance so they can then get a meeting with Jed, Steve Murrall and Kevin to voice their concerns to them personally and just tell them exactly, face to face, what they think and pinpoint their failings in the take over, the embargo, the team, match tactics, the stadium and their ongoing concerns about the direction the club is going and ongoing issues over players, players wages, budgets etc. Speak to the owners and tell them what is wrong, if you have the spine and courage of conviction to do so, which somehow I doubt, instead of the endless back stabbing here, which is obviously your forte in life, ahhhswipes.

spoken like a true key-board warrior! ;o) COYR

So how many took the chance to attend the face to face Q &A session in the Legends last Saturday, and ask precisely the questions being asked now and voiced the concerns that are now all out in the open. Murrall was there and wanted people to ask these questions but not many did, so perhaps another session should be held here, a Q & A organised by Sam, where these questions and concerns can be asked, answered and subjects addressed.

Firstly Wiz your post was out of order! Some of us have been scepticle of this take over from the off and have said so often enough. Everything connected is, and has been, tomorrow, by Monday, later this week. Never mind Sam organising a Q&A. He should be doing that as a reporter. The BBC have asked the question of Jed re the ongoing saga of the embargo. The enlightening reply. 'His Lawyers were dealing with it'. The Manager when asked the same question, 'didn't know'! Why not ffs? He's the manager and he doesn't know when he'll be in a position to strengthen his squad? Good job we're not chasing promotion or anything eh! No wonder he sounds right down in interviews. The truth is he's probably wondering what he's got himself into. Let's just face it. Black sold out in a panic to a bunch of chancers. SN1 is the new Mandela Towers!

What would you of rather had then? Administration!!!!! This is the hand we have been dealt with This or admin with points deduction The football league decides when we come out of embargo according to advertiser we have done what we can just waiting on FL Jesus just be thankful they pulled us out the cr.ap!!! Would you really of wanted admin instead of where we are?? Black left Pdc left We were up the creek without a paddle They dragged us out if a world of **** and all we can do is moan moan demand answers they owe us nothing at the moment apart from our thanks for stopping admin and saving us So stop all the negativity and get on with supporting the team !!! I for one will be at Yeovil and be proud I still have a club to support win loose or draw!! And my season ticket will be renewed for next season whatever division we are in cause I support Swindon Town through thick and thin good and bad !!!!!

And those of us that ask questions are negative and not real Town fans then Cookie? Administration, or the threat of it, was lifted with the sale of Ritchie - not the take over by Jed &Co so you need to get that right for a start. When that money runs out there is no guarantee that the threat wont be back as far as I can tell. It's ok. Just ignore it. Heads back in the sand, it might go away.

1950,

I agree the Ritchie sale saved the club in one way by providing immediate funds but I don't believe it saved us from admin.

I believe, and I may be wrong, that if the sale of the club had not happened by January 31st the club would have been placed into administration and this is why it was rushed through.

On the board, we don't know all members so we don't actually know how much they have to invest. We may have someone on board that is worth £100M plus.

However being worth £100M does not mean you have £100M sitting in a bank account, it will be invested in property, stocks etc because it is likely to earn more in interest and cost less in taxation. Most posters on here with houses will on paper be worth perhaps £250,000 upwards but getting hold of your paper worth would require the sale of your house.

Raising £1.2M from the investors could also require the cashing in of assets which would explain delays. There is also a new Tax year to consider which starts in a few weeks time !!!!

Like many I would like to know more, particularly about the £1.2M, but I am prepared to be patient and I will reserve judgement for now.

COYMR

Don, Black put more money into our club than anyone else in history. He (and the others) cleared all our debts, gave us 5 years we couldn't have had without him, he didn't want his money back and he left us at the top of the table. I think most clubs would be pretty happy with that result. There would never have been a good time for him to pull out, so all this hand-wringing about the timing is total boll0cks. We all enjoyed the PDC period but with the benefit of hindsight I think we would probably have been better off with a more stable manager. Any half decent manager could have got us to where we are now on the budget PDC had. If we'd had a manager who didn't keep biting the hand that fed him, I think we'd probably still have Andrew Black's backing and be looking forward to continued success on and off the pitch.

Thats a ridiculous statement to say some fans want the board and Jed to fail why would anyone want that.

How many times do people need it spelt out all we want to know is an honest answer to the Embargo which we are not getting the 'its with the lawyers' statement is a red herring made by Jed. I'm afraid Jed the question isnt going away.

Another week goes by and sshhhhhh

Nothing from Chairman JED or Del Boy.

Oxon - very good points you make there, points I myself had overlooked in all of this.
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It may well indeed be all above board and with good intent, but maybe not in time for us to secure some loanees.

We are not waiting for the f.l they are waiting for us to pay picaretta which we won't do until April.
How many more times?
O&u

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, all we know is: 1. We are under a transfer embargo. 2. It has been suggested by one of the directors that this is because they have been asked to provide a pot of £1.2m, presumably to cover operating costs. 3. Last Saturday we were told that the introduction of the £1.2m was "in process" and would be complete on Monday - or Tuesday at the latest. Therefore we would be able to sign players before Tuesday's game. 4. The manager says he has no information. Presumably the Football League's condition has not been satisfied as we have heard nothing. How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance? For several years, I have renewed my season ticket at the earliest opportunity. Although I am sure I'll do it eventually, I am now holding back for a while. If people like me are thinking this way, imagine what it is going to be like to attract people who may have been unsure in the first place, or to attract new fans. So far the new regime's public relations make Sir William Patey look like a good communicator. For goodness sake Mr McCrory - say something!

Den,

I think you have valid points because I would like to know more but there may be good reasons why nothing is being said.

Is the £1.2M to protect against a lawsuit from Paolo ?

I just feel some of the comments are unjustified when no one really knows how much investment they are able to make.

I would be happy for them to make no investment and make the club self sustaining by using the facilities better.

It can be done and a team can have success. Yeovil from Wurzelset announced a £53,000 profit for this year on crowds half the size of ours !

COYMR

ps
I understand they are going to get a Brand New Combine Harvester as a result :-)

Oi Den! wrote:
Don, Black put more money into our club than anyone else in history. He (and the others) cleared all our debts, gave us 5 years we couldn't have had without him, he didn't want his money back and he left us at the top of the table. I think most clubs would be pretty happy with that result. There would never have been a good time for him to pull out, so all this hand-wringing about the timing is total boll0cks. We all enjoyed the PDC period but with the benefit of hindsight I think we would probably have been better off with a more stable manager. Any half decent manager could have got us to where we are now on the budget PDC had. If we'd had a manager who didn't keep biting the hand that fed him, I think we'd probably still have Andrew Black's backing and be looking forward to continued success on and off the pitch.

No he didn't want his money back Den,he just regretted he ever got involved in a football club in the end,just wanted out at all cost,saw his mistake and dumped us,blew £10m and said enough is enough,I'm OUT NOW,he's not a football fan Den,so he must have thought,I'm just wasting money,should have stuck to the nags,that's what he loves!!!!

Oxon, I really think all this stuff about cash being tied up in investments is a red herring. It must be well over a month since McCrory and his associates started the process of acquiring the club. If they cannot raise £1.2m in that time - or convince the Football League that they will do so very soon - something is amiss. If I and others are under a misapprehension, why does McCrory not come out and say so? Does he want people to delay renewing their season tickets, with the cashflow implications that will have? Does he want the club to be seen as unattractive to potential new supporters?

That's it from me. I'm finished commenting on this until the otherwise talkative McCrory or one of his associates actually says something of substance.

i've been a season ticket holder for a number of years and have always renewed but i ma holding off at the moment until the club give a factual and truthful analysis of what is going on. If JED our chairman comes on this site and reads the fans comments surely he has to make a statement or hold on a minute perhaps its with his lawyers to deal with.

Yeah yeah yeah

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, all we know is:

1. We are under a transfer embargo.

2. It has been suggested by one of the directors that this is because they have been asked to provide a pot of £1.2m, presumably to cover operating costs.

3. Last Saturday we were told that the introduction of the £1.2m was "in process" and would be complete on Monday - or Tuesday at the latest. Therefore we would be able to sign players before Tuesday's game.

4. The manager says he has no information. Presumably the Football League's condition has not been satisfied as we have heard nothing.

How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance?

For several years, I have renewed my season ticket at the earliest opportunity. Although I am sure I'll do it eventually, I am now holding back for a while. If people like me are thinking this way, imagine what it is going to be like to attract people who may have been unsure in the first place, or to attract new fans.

So far the new regime's public relations make Sir William Patey look like a good communicator.

For goodness sake Mr McCrory - say something!

den, a few questions for you:

1) Do you know what it's like to run a football club?

2) Do you have £1.2M sitting around to spend on whatever?

3) Do you know the reason why the embargo hasn't been lifted?

I have the funny feeling the answer to all those questions is NO!

"How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance?" you said

What is the situation that bothers you so much? these things take time, why should the board update us each day on the day to day running of the club.

Jed and the board were very open in their Q & A last Saturday by all accounts, they spoke to the fans, that's called communication!! how many other boards would do that?

What are you waiting to find out before you buy your season ticket? I cant believe any hardcore fan would hold back renewing a ST (except for financial reasons) when the club are 4th in the league with an outside chance of auto promotion, or probably play-offs.

It really beggars belief some of the negativity at the moment, give the board and manger a chance to work all the issues out and then start to concentrate on the team building.

Even if we are still in div 1 next season, after all the mess of this season I think that is quite an achievement, after all we may not have even had a team to support.

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!

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Don, I think it is you that doesn't understand, Although I don't agree with the views of Wiz on this occasion, he was actually making the same points of view as you.

What you have failed to comprehend is Black committed to a 4 million budget and because of his hatred for di Canio he decided to withdraw funding not because he doesn't have money (although he was advised a football club is not a good investment).he bottled it and left us in the scheite, nothing to do with Dell Boy & traders, if Black had held his nerve there was no need to sell Ritchie and no need to accept an offer of a quid for ownership, IMO the guy was close to a mental breakdown and needed a shrink rather than investors advising him.

Personally think he was badly advised by Patey who was supposed to SELL the club not give it away. the last 3 months have been a total mess and the only ones that come out with any credit are the players and the fans. Let's leave it there, we are obviously on opposite end of the spectrum if you think we have these chancers for saving the club, hope you are proved right and I'm proved wrong, time will tell.

To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

I think KM should punch the dugout at least once a month !

old town robin wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!


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Don, I think it is you that doesn't understand, Although I don't agree with the views of Wiz on this occasion, he was actually making the same points of view as you.

What you have failed to comprehend is Black committed to a 4 million budget and because of his hatred for di Canio he decided to withdraw funding not because he doesn't have money (although he was advised a football club is not a good investment).he bottled it and left us in the scheite, nothing to do with Dell Boy & traders, if Black had held his nerve there was no need to sell Ritchie and no need to accept an offer of a quid for ownership, IMO the guy was close to a mental breakdown and needed a shrink rather than investors advising him.

Personally think he was badly advised by Patey who was supposed to SELL the club not give it away. the last 3 months have been a total mess and the only ones that come out with any credit are the players and the fans. Let's leave it there, we are obviously on opposite end of the spectrum if you think we have these chancers for saving the club, hope you are proved right and I'm proved wrong, time will tell.

Old Town!Black had enough,he changed his mind!he wanted OUT NOW,you don't understand!there's no if's or buts or about him holding his nerve,he didn't care,he just wanted to stop his loses and get out of STFC end of,he didn't care who he sold to,it was JED or ADMIN full stop GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least I can understand what this manager is saying lol, for all the airtime Paolo got, I only really ever managed to translate a few sentences of it!

We used to hear that J Mc communicated via twitter, even that seems to have stopped. Yes we should have some gratitude to the new board for stepping in but because of lack of communication (they should know the exact position with the embargo for example) they are creating uncertainty in the minds of supporters and that is enough to cause them a cash flow problem in the near future. We did avoid administration but for how long - big dose of reassurance needed by J Mc.

All well and good but my original question still stands
What was the alternative ?
Forget black having the bottle he did not
He had stopped all funding and gave a deadline for the sale
Pdc wanted out he made that clear enough
There was only one offer on the table
The alternative was admin if the sale had not gone through which black would quite willingly of done
Sold Ritchie to help keep us alive but not keep us out of admin for long
Apart from jed what was the alternative
that is my question what other way was there please enlighten me?
That's what we are asking

if we went into Admin the talk was of a massive points deduction and i wouldnt be surprised if it would have been about 30 points if you remember Leeds got 22 i think and Luton was around 30. The FL definetley dont like us and nor does that T**T Adrian Durham as he also made the comment we are the most hated team in the lower leagues. I dont Durham liked us though as he made is blatantly abvious he hated Paolo but then he loves Fat Boy Evans at Rotherham and to me that says it all. Evans should be allowed to manage in the FL.

umpcah wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

I think KM should punch the dugout at least once a month !

Yeah, perhaps he should. I read with amusement the critics on here after just one defeat. I seem to remember any hint of criticism of PdC even after the most woeful of performances (and there were a few) was regarded are heresy. Double standards?

Constructive criticism of the team, manager, Board is of but please give them a chance.

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

So to put it in a nut shell, we are playing better football but our defence has gone from solid to awful in 3 games,so a bit of contradiction on your part, and yes I have been to all 3 games too.
I'm trying not to be negative but also don't want to say we have a great manager.
Onwards and upwards

smirg kcab wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

So to put it in a nut shell, we are playing better football but our defence has gone from solid to awful in 3 games,so a bit of contradiction on your part, and yes I have been to all 3 games too.
I'm trying not to be negative but also don't want to say we have a great manager.
Onwards and upwards

Come home paolo and Jeremy

Davidsyrett wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, all we know is:

1. We are under a transfer embargo.

2. It has been suggested by one of the directors that this is because they have been asked to provide a pot of £1.2m, presumably to cover operating costs.

3. Last Saturday we were told that the introduction of the £1.2m was "in process" and would be complete on Monday - or Tuesday at the latest. Therefore we would be able to sign players before Tuesday's game.

4. The manager says he has no information. Presumably the Football League's condition has not been satisfied as we have heard nothing.

How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance?

For several years, I have renewed my season ticket at the earliest opportunity. Although I am sure I'll do it eventually, I am now holding back for a while. If people like me are thinking this way, imagine what it is going to be like to attract people who may have been unsure in the first place, or to attract new fans.

So far the new regime's public relations make Sir William Patey look like a good communicator.

For goodness sake Mr McCrory - say something!

den, a few questions for you:

1) Do you know what it's like to run a football club?

2) Do you have £1.2M sitting around to spend on whatever?

3) Do you know the reason why the embargo hasn't been lifted?

I have the funny feeling the answer to all those questions is NO!

"How can this situation be acceptable? How can we take these people seriously if that don't communicate with the supporters on a matter of such importance?" you said

What is the situation that bothers you so much? these things take time, why should the board update us each day on the day to day running of the club.

Jed and the board were very open in their Q & A last Saturday by all accounts, they spoke to the fans, that's called communication!! how many other boards would do that?

What are you waiting to find out before you buy your season ticket? I cant believe any hardcore fan would hold back renewing a ST (except for financial reasons) when the club are 4th in the league with an outside chance of auto promotion, or probably play-offs.

It really beggars belief some of the negativity at the moment, give the board and manger a chance to work all the issues out and then start to concentrate on the team building.

Even if we are still in div 1 next season, after all the mess of this season I think that is quite an achievement, after all we may not have even had a team to support.

1. Not a professional football club, no.

2. No - but I have not taken control of decent sized professional football club and been in charge of it for a number of weeks. Is it normal for a club to be under a transfer embargo weeks after coming under new ownership?

3. No. I was hoping the owners would tell us the answer to that one.

4. The situation that bothers me (and others, I think) so much is that there is a serious matter affecting the football club and the owners will not talk to us about it. The club will get my money. But I maintain that this is a public relations disaster and if the club do not start communicating better, there will be a damaging effect on the the take-up of season tickets and the general appeal of the club.

Used to love coming on here and reading everyones posts but so many negative whining people who are still crying over paolo leaving its so frustrating, yeah everyones entitled to thier opinions blah blah blah but cant everyone just get behind the manager and the team

I think K-Mac got his starting line up spot on in the first 60 minutes or so v Brentford.

It's the best I've seen Tommy Miller play in a Swindon shirt (minus the mistake for the first goal. Roberts, McMormack, Ferry and Rooney had the freedom to burst forward and we caused Brentford all sorts of trouble in the 1st half. The full backs supported the midfield really well as did Williams. I would however like to See Williams play where A.Rooney did and have Collins up top.

The formation really suited our counter attacking style and the only negative was the high line which left Flint and Ward exposed due to their lack of space. Hopefully if Devera is fit again he can slot in next to Flint.

I won't judge K-MAC until next season. It's not his players and it will take time to imbed his formation and ideas. He's also down to the barebones in terms of numbers and quality. Lets get behind him and the team and hopefully we can secure a playoff place at the very minimum.

That was meant to say slot Devera in, instead of Flint.

I shall be asking for an extension to the season ticket deals with all this delay and silence over embargo's and the new boards plans for the club. All I have really heard is 6 concerts mentioned for the future but for me to invest my hard earned dosh I need to know where this board intend to take my club and what the hell is going on with this embargo. I have done a fair bit of painting this week and that has dried well before this embargo getting lifted so Jed what the hell is going on please. No news then no season ticket as I need to know what product I am buying into and from where I am sitting it does not look good. May be the board still think they are on the non-disclosure well guys that finished a few weeks ago so tell us the fans what is happening please.

smirg kcab wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

So to put it in a nut shell, we are playing better football but our defence has gone from solid to awful in 3 games,so a bit of contradiction on your part, and yes I have been to all 3 games too.
I'm trying not to be negative but also don't want to say we have a great manager.
Onwards and upwards

No contradiction on my part smirg,individual errors have cost us goals the last 3 games,
Thompson error lead to the Coventry goal,Devera error to the Walsall equaliser,McEverly 1st goal for Brentford.
I agree that it has not looked as solid but me that is down to having Flint and McEverly,bring back Devera when he is fit,Flint has not done to bad defensively but Devera makes us stronger IMO.
Also where we are playing such attacking football now it may leave us a little more exposed.
Give me football over hoofball any day.

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

chrystovski wrote:
That was meant to say slot Devera in, instead of Flint.

Glad you changed you mind just about to have a rant at you fint must come out of the side

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

What you say is a maybe and who knows how big Jed's pot to p1ss in is?he could be a bullsh1ter,he might not be?but it was a fact,if Jed had not taken over from Black,we WOULD now be in admin and looking forward to div2 football or worse next season!end of!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the absence of forthright communication - and that is something we might have to get used to - then there will only be speculation.

As I see it...

If Black sold the club for £1, and wrote off all the debts, then there obviously were no debts for the new board to take on. In that context, I don't see why the other parties wanted to buy the club out of administration. How could it be any cheaper than £1? In fact it would probably have cost them much more than a quid.

The League took one month to ratify the new consortium's plans. Presumably this included the requirement to ring-fence, or prove they had the £1.2m (which must be the projected remaining costs of running the club until the end of the season. So why it's come as a surprise to them now, I do not know.

Jed said that the same budget would be made available under his consortium. The annual budget was supposedly £4m for the year, although I don't know if it includes admin and staff salaries as well as those of the players and coaching staff. So where is the funding for this maintained budget? Since then we've had Paolo (on £500k reportedly), his backroom team, plus Ritchie, Martin, Hollands, Bostock, and Benson taken off the wage bill.

I also heard from someone at Brentford on Tuesday that all four of these owners are paying themselves a salary. Out of the annual budget presumably. Now that's a worrying development as we've been there before, and a cost that was minimal under the old regime.

Until we are given clear information to the contrary from the new owners, then I will remain on the sceptical side. Minimises the scope for disappointment later.

the don69 wrote:

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

What you say is a maybe and who knows how big Jed's pot to p1ss in is?he could be a bullsh1ter,he might not be?but it was a fact,if Jed had not taken over from Black,we WOULD now be in admin and looking forward to div2 football or worse next season!end of!!!!!!!!!!!!

its not fact Don as it never happened so nobody knows for sure if black would have indeed put the club in adim...he said he would but then jed said PDC could have three loaniees and we all know what happened next.and as far as i can see one things for sure if only somebody from the club came out and said look this is the real reason for the delay and i can assure you that it will be sorted by said date then most fans would be very happy but its all the uncertainty thats getting too us fans me included....anyway another day ticks by and so does our promotion chances.

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

What you say is a maybe and who knows how big Jed's pot to p1ss in is?he could be a bullsh1ter,he might not be?but it was a fact,if Jed had not taken over from Black,we WOULD now be in admin and looking forward to div2 football or worse next season!end of!!!!!!!!!!!!

its not fact Don as it never happened so nobody knows for sure if black would have indeed put the club in adim...he said he would but then jed said PDC could have three loaniees and we all know what happened next.and as far as i can see one things for sure if only somebody from the club came out and said look this is the real reason for the delay and i can assure you that it will be sorted by said date then most fans would be very happy but its all the uncertainty thats getting too us fans me included....anyway another day ticks by and so does our promotion chances.

Who am i,it was a fact JED took over,if he didn't,it would have been a fact that we went into Admin,Black and Jed have said that,in fact Black instructed he legal team to do just that,because Jed took over,you are worried about our promotion chances,if he hadn't,it would have been certain Relegation to worry about Simples!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the point im making Don is black and JED said alot of things and not all of them have come to fruition thats a fact.

Jed likes a full english for breakfast then a glass of fruit juice then at 9.30 has his first dump of the day then he takes his dog for a walk allthough he has no dog then around 1 has a bowl of soup ....ect ....ect .

who am i wrote:
the point im making Don is black and JED said alot of things and not all of them have come to fruition thats a fact.

If you like facts Who am i,here's two more Death and Taxes LOL!!!!!!!!

lol

jayden wrote:
Jed likes a full english for breakfast then a glass of fruit juice then at 9.30 has his first dump of the day then he takes his dog for a walk allthough he has no dog then around 1 has a bowl of soup ....ect ....ect .

Too much information Jayden!all we want to know is?what cheese he likes!LOL!!!!!!!!!

RedRich wrote:
On a different point, have noticed on BBC Donny have signed Dean Furman from Oldham. Experienced, hard & quality player. Fans favouite & previous player of the year. This is the sort of signing we should be looking at.

This bloody embaro is getting more than frustrating! When it is lifted the kids we get in from Spurs or whoever will be expected to take the pressure & hit the ground running.

COYR

they dont want Swindon Town in the championship we have baggage.

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

If they can't get more investors it could happen.

the don69 wrote:

jayden wrote:
Jed likes a full english for breakfast then a glass of fruit juice then at 9.30 has his first dump of the day then he takes his dog for a walk allthough he has no dog then around 1 has a bowl of soup ....ect ....ect .

Too much information Jayden!all we want to know is?what cheese he likes!LOL!!!!!!!!!

Ah the great cheese debate,well i know as a fact that he is not a great cheese lover in fact it keeps him up all night much the same as viagra.

Bassett Hound wrote:

who am i wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Cookie43 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Ok since 1950 tell us all please What do you want? Black gone no money coming in from him On the brink of admin Ritchie sale was only to cover interim wages and costs it would not of held off admin till end of season that we have been told So 1950 what in you wisdom was the answer ? Once black left by his deadline Pdc going by his deadline What was the answer ?? If jed and co had not been there where would we be now please tell me?? All you seem bothered about is embargo off players coming in!!! I and a few others are more concerned we still have a club to support and the club being run on a even keel I couldn't give a monkeys at the moment about new players I am just thankful I have a club. So come on tell us all What was the answer? We had no owner willing to put in another penny A manager doing a runner Almost got to the point of having no owners no manager So what would you of done any different? Jed and co was the only serious deal on the table and me and others are thankful they were there. As before without them admin was the only option selling Ritchie would not of stopped that as we have been told by black

Still waiting!SINCE1950,wh at do you want??????Black Dumped our club at all cost!PDC quit cause he needs load of dosh to do his job!no Jed ADMIN huge points deduction!div2 next season(or worse)get real!you should know better at your age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll tell you what I want 'sunshine'. Some explanation as to why we are still in an embargo Simple as that. Because unless we get out of it soon then there is no chance of us making the play off's much less automatic with the squad we currently have.

Would you think it was so difficult to come out and offer even the smallest of explanations? Some crumb of reassurance as to why the FL don't see us fit to sign new players?


Well, maybe that doesn't worry you but it does me. Dispite the talk of money for players and secret investors has anyone actually seen it or them? The FL apparently haven't and are are still waiting.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the stuation. Maybe someone of your age doesn't have the experience.

I also want a club to support in the future (and for someone of your age to support after I've gone) which is why I and others want some reassurance from Jed that they can actually deliver that and not just postpone what was just a few weeks ago the inevitable. At the moment we don't see much evidence.

You are correct, Black dumped us right in it. I don't think that means we have to be 'everso grateful' to the first one that comes along with a quid in his hand.

I can tell you now 1950.we should be everso grateful to Jed and his gang!because others that wanted to buy us,wanted Black to put us into ADMIN and pick up the pieces,don't you and others UNDERSTAND!it was JED or ADMIN,no one else wanted to do a deal,in Black's time frame,so I TAKE IT YOU,would rather have Admin?I don't think You UNDERSTAND the gravity of what admin would mean to us for a third time?certain relegation and selling all players on high wages,Div2 football or worse,if that's what you'd rather have!I'm staggered!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!

who says administration isnt coming soon.... think about that one....whilst this lot might of promised our beloved previous saviour that admin is not on the cards now they have their hands on a top club whos to say two months down the line,,, you know what we cant afford this because of x y and z so sorry admin we go...i could be wrong of course and like many who are sceptical about this new lot hope we are....

If they can't get more investors it could happen.

Another IF?Who am i, only likes Facts lol!!!!!!!

jayden wrote:

the don69 wrote:

jayden wrote:
Jed likes a full english for breakfast then a glass of fruit juice then at 9.30 has his first dump of the day then he takes his dog for a walk allthough he has no dog then around 1 has a bowl of soup ....ect ....ect .

Too much information Jayden!all we want to know is?what cheese he likes!LOL!!!!!!!!!

Ah the great cheese debate,well i know as a fact that he is not a great cheese lover in fact it keeps him up all night much the same as viagra.

That it jayden only facts wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedRich wrote:
On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

Im not worried about coventry, who cares about them, i am concerned with us as a club going backwards at the moment, its our chance to be were we ought to be, which is a sustainable championship side, bl oody hell, its knarking me off.

No cheese lovers tonight then.

swwindon61uk wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

swwindon61uk wrote:
To me all the slagging off KM after 3 games is nonsense, he has come in with the club basically in turmoil.
The run in to our season was/is a very tough one no matter who was in charge,maybe one reason PDC left?
Coventry tough, Walsall the in form team in the league right now and Brentford who have lost just twice at home,we could have won them all if not for defensive errors.
Tell you something else,i have been to the 3 games under KM and it is some of the most consistent good football we have played all season.
Lets see what happens this season and then judge him next season with his team.
Maybe if he punched the dug out now and then and his press conferences lasted 14 hours people would be more happy?

So to put it in a nut shell, we are playing better football but our defence has gone from solid to awful in 3 games,so a bit of contradiction on your part, and yes I have been to all 3 games too.
I'm trying not to be negative but also don't want to say we have a great manager.
Onwards and upwards

No contradiction on my part smirg,individual errors have cost us goals the last 3 games,
Thompson error lead to the Coventry goal,Devera error to the Walsall equaliser,McEverly 1st goal for Brentford.
I agree that it has not looked as solid but me that is down to having Flint and McEverly,bring back Devera when he is fit,Flint has not done to bad defensively but Devera makes us stronger IMO.
Also where we are playing such attacking football now it may leave us a little more exposed.
Give me football over hoofball any day.

Must agree really enjoyed the game Tuesday. The only difference was that they had a forward who was willing to hassle/batter and use his speed and power, something we havnt had this season.in wilma and Joan.
Onwards and upwards

LeGod wrote:
i sadi a number of times yesterday and i agree with all the comments made by people on here today. Why do you change a winning formula??? We look vulnerable now when other teams attack us and its down to KM changing the formation of the team i dont get it why he has done what he ahs done. Yes we have played 3 and won only 1 when we should have won all 3. Bad tactics in my book and he is P*****g me off already. All this rubbish about giving him a chance Yes if we were doen the bottom of the league and struggling im all up for changing the team to get a winning formula but when your at the top and its successful you dont change it. Somne people need to get a reality check. Jed has got him in as a cheap option and so far he is proving to be the cheap option with his tactical naiviety and with all due respect to Cooper his number 2 he hasnt set the world on fire wherever he's been in fact his record is shocking. Dont come on here either people saying people are being negative either about KM as you need to look at what is happenning. Jed thinks he is running a conference south side here and beware what is around the corner. Players contracts up i nthe summer i can guarantee now they will get offered cheaper contracts to stay so expect the majority to go and a load of youth coming in and a season of struggle next season in L1. I dont think there is any intent to get into the championship they will be happy with a play off final to get some money in and work from there and then say its been a successful season. This is our best ever chance to get out of this league and i cant see us doing it. EMBARGO - Still dragging on and on and on and on so its a week tomorrow we were told its going to be sorted - Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn. JED TELL US THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

An official statement on the embargo is now long overdue.Statement please.

madterrier wrote:
In the absence of forthright communication - and that is something we might have to get used to - then there will only be speculation.

As I see it...

If Black sold the club for £1, and wrote off all the debts, then there obviously were no debts for the new board to take on. In that context, I don't see why the other parties wanted to buy the club out of administration. How could it be any cheaper than £1? In fact it would probably have cost them much more than a quid.

The League took one month to ratify the new consortium's plans. Presumably this included the requirement to ring-fence, or prove they had the £1.2m (which must be the projected remaining costs of running the club until the end of the season. So why it's come as a surprise to them now, I do not know.

Jed said that the same budget would be made available under his consortium. The annual budget was supposedly £4m for the year, although I don't know if it includes admin and staff salaries as well as those of the players and coaching staff. So where is the funding for this maintained budget? Since then we've had Paolo (on £500k reportedly), his backroom team, plus Ritchie, Martin, Hollands, Bostock, and Benson taken off the wage bill.

I also heard from someone at Brentford on Tuesday that all four of these owners are paying themselves a salary. Out of the annual budget presumably. Now that's a worrying development as we've been there before, and a cost that was minimal under the old regime.

Until we are given clear information to the contrary from the new owners, then I will remain on the sceptical side. Minimises the scope for disappointment later.

i think black said he wrote off his debt, but fitton wasnt keen on writing off his. so i am not sure they got the club fully debt free.

a buyer from administrators would have got the club free of fitton's debt and there's also the opportunity for the administrator to cancel any other expensive/unattracti
ve contracts he wants to.thats the attraction.

luckily for the board the italians all cancelled their own contracts - after being given the silent treatment - which reduced the monthly outgoings massively.

but it looks like they still have some cashflow problems and given the opportunity the first question i would ask them is, what exactly are you trying to sell or mortgage to raise this £1.2m, is it assets of the club, the second is have the FL given you a deadline to produce the money and what is it and the third is what exactly are you paying yourselves per month?

super red wrote:
Don't get me wrong, thanks to he'd and co for buying the club. However I'm getting the distinct impression that this job is just to big for them. They may be nice guys with a bit if business experience. But f@£k me were talking about running a division 1 team angling for the potentially juicy championship. I just feel we need some big hitters running the club, not some mates running the local corner shop which this feels like!!

Spot on!Why can they not answer a straight Paxman like question?When will the Club be out of the embargo?

swindon1969 wrote:

RedRich wrote:
On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

Im not worried about coventry, who cares about them, i am concerned with us as a club going backwards at the moment, its our chance to be were we ought to be, which is a sustainable championship side, bl oody hell, its knarking me off.

'Going backwards' - 'w(h)ere we ought to be' and 'a sustainable championship side'.

IMO we are exactly where we ought to be and definitely NOT going backwards (where were we 2 years ago) and we have not been a sustainable second tier club, if at all ever, since the last century.

I understand your frustration but more realism is needed by some supporters - not necessarily you 1969.

We are where we are - the embargo sucks but if you can not learn to just deal with it have your ONE say on here then be patient because the constant demands are becoming boring!

STFC supporters - what (if you were alive) were you doing 44 years ago today?

Med Red wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped. It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!! If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis. Kmac was the cheap option ? Was he ? Who was the expensive option ? Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ? Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!! I know who I would prefer. It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO. I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre. If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this. I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so". COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

Do they or don't they have the money to
lift the club out of the Embargo??That is the question to which everyone wants a one word answer?Simple YES or NO.If
the latter then they should never have bought a Division 1 Club?Conference
South O.K....

Since 1950 wrote:
Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Final paragraph of this post is spot on.
The real proof of Jed & Co is,whether or
not,they have sufficient funds to have the
embargo lifted.If they don't then there is real need for concern as to the future of Swindon Town a.f.c.

pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Final paragraph of this post is spot on.
The real proof of Jed & Co is,whether or
not,they have sufficient funds to have the
embargo lifted.If they don't then there is real need for concern as to the future of Swindon Town a.f.c.

'Swindon Town a.f.c.' ???!!!!????

Just a little hint of the B'muffters here?

Robinonfire wrote:
EMBARGO...........CO ME ON ADVER FIND OUT WHATS GOING ON ???????????????

The etymology of embargo is spanish!
So is manana,manana!!!!
Hasta la vista Swindon a.f.c.
Await Statement from McCrory, the
King of the Leprechauns, has news soon....Slante

sp1dersw3b wrote:

swindon1969 wrote:

RedRich wrote:
On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

Im not worried about coventry, who cares about them, i am concerned with us as a club going backwards at the moment, its our chance to be were we ought to be, which is a sustainable championship side, bl oody hell, its knarking me off.

'Going backwards' - 'w(h)ere we ought to be' and 'a sustainable championship side'.

IMO we are exactly where we ought to be and definitely NOT going backwards (where were we 2 years ago) and we have not been a sustainable second tier club, if at all ever, since the last century.

I understand your frustration but more realism is needed by some supporters - not necessarily you 1969.

We are where we are - the embargo sucks but if you can not learn to just deal with it have your ONE say on here then be patient because the constant demands are becoming boring!

STFC supporters - what (if you were alive) were you doing 44 years ago today?

don't know about you mate, but I was at Wembley watching the Robins.

pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:

Robinonfire wrote:
EMBARGO...........CO ME ON ADVER FIND OUT WHATS GOING ON ???????????????

The etymology of embargo is spanish!
So is manana,manana!!!!
Hasta la vista Swindon a.f.c.
Await Statement from McCrory, the
King of the Leprechauns, has news soon....Slante

Slainte - maybe?

Good bye.

old town robin wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

swindon1969 wrote:

RedRich wrote:
On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

Im not worried about coventry, who cares about them, i am concerned with us as a club going backwards at the moment, its our chance to be were we ought to be, which is a sustainable championship side, bl oody hell, its knarking me off.

'Going backwards' - 'w(h)ere we ought to be' and 'a sustainable championship side'.

IMO we are exactly where we ought to be and definitely NOT going backwards (where were we 2 years ago) and we have not been a sustainable second tier club, if at all ever, since the last century.

I understand your frustration but more realism is needed by some supporters - not necessarily you 1969.

We are where we are - the embargo sucks but if you can not learn to just deal with it have your ONE say on here then be patient because the constant demands are becoming boring!

STFC supporters - what (if you were alive) were you doing 44 years ago today?

don't know about you mate, but I was at Wembley watching the Robins.

No mate, you weren't.

You may have been getting ready to go or whatever.

You will not hear from Jed and Co till Cheltenhams over.

If they didn't win??????

I’m one of the doubters, however I must stress that this is constructive criticism on the basis of what I have seen and read for myself. I am not being negative for negative sake.

My first problem is with the new board and the actual honesty we’ve been given. The first statement was that Jed McCroy claimed to have rung Paolo Di Canio before the agreed deadline. Paolo denies this and I am inclined to believe him. I suspect the new board wanted to get rid because of his £450,000 salary.

This leads to my next point. Jed McCroy stated that they had ‘significant funds’ that were similar to the budget that Black had promised for the season. Is this true? If it were, it would be likely that Paolo would have stayed at least to the season end and in all probability win the league again.

The club was apparently 13 million in debt, 9 million of which was kindly wiped out by the last board (but as Watkins told us Fitton was reluctant to do so). But where has the missing £4m gone? In the Q and A they said the club was debt free. This is not true.

McCroy has been in charge for 5 weeks and yet the embargo is still hanging over our heads. This is seriously hampering our chances. Whilst I applaud his charm offensive to play songs that the fans want, to improve the quality of the chips and to park his car correctly, its players that people want to see play. I am quickly starting to get the impression that he is some sort of loveable Del Boy type chancer.

I also applaud the board for wanting to increase revenue streams to make us sustainable. However is having 6-12 concerts a year going to be good for our pitch or pre-season preparation? Our pitch is our biggest asset and I wonder how our groundsman feels about this? How many concerts do Arsenal, Man City or even Wembley have per year? Our ground is a football stadium, not a purpose built music venue. Can 12 concerts a year fit into what is a football stadium model?

Why did Cheltenham turn McCroy down? With the greatest respect to our friendly rivals, we are a much bigger club, so why did they say no thanks? Just what was on the table?

My next problem is that Jed McCroy claims to be a football man. This means that he would know the difference between a good and bad manager. Paolo and his team left us top of the table with a +14 goal difference better than anyone else. His methods worked. He brought a winning mentality to the club and some of the supporters (those reading this will know who you are) as you are being criticised for being negative.

We now have MacDonald who’s’ task of following PDC mustn’t be easy. However, he’s overseen 5 conceded goals in three matches and has played people out of position with lopsided formations. We’ve slipped down the table as a result. I bet teams now fancy being able to score against us whereas before we could rely on Wes keeping a clean sheet.

The leads against Walsall and Brentford would have been preserved under PDC. No question. To say “that’s football” when conceding in the 90th minute to me demonstrates that MacDonald does not have a winning mentality. Anyone suggesting to PDC “that’s football” when you concede a last minute goal at home would have a 30 minute rant back in his face.

Having watched both of the last games, it also appears that the attacking play is still PDC influenced as the players play to the high work rate pressing game they know. Williams especially puts shifts in. But what has changed is the way we defend and at the moment it’s not working.

It is also possible for players to lose that edge of fitness they had when under PDC, hence the late conceding of goals in matches. As The Washbag reported, that Walsall goal was the first at home after 75 minutes all season.

But what has really got my goat is that MacDonald doesn’t seem to be a people person. There were 1,500 of us at Brentford and managers/coaches have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugouts. It was only when he went past the penalty spot did he think to look across and clap us and give us a wave.

What infuriated me at the end was that he completely ignored us and didn’t offer a clap, wave or instruct players to show any appreciation for my support, £40 I spent taking me and my wife, leaving work early and clocking the miles up from Bristol. It was telling that only Thompson really came over to us.

I’m not asking MacDonald to come and force everyone right over to the fans like PDC did at Bristol City, or milk it generally like PDC did, but at least to show some appreciation. I do fear his ‘mentality’ is like that of a Malpas and Monkey off our backs etc. God Forbid. He should be really hurting after throwing away leads and dare I say it criticise Roberts for that miss after we had scored. Brentford were all over the place and we failed to make it pay.

I wonder if Roberts woke up on Wednesday and thought, I should have won that? Under PDC he'd be told he should. MacDonald may just say 'thats football'. 'Nevermind'.

I wish I could have the same optimism a lot of you have with the manager and board, but to me, for the reasons above, I already have doubts whether the same level of performance can be maintained. This ‘were not ready to go up’ is also complete crap.

Yes I am happy to have a team to support and I am thankful someone has come in. Being 32 years of age, I have already seen us nearly go under something like 4 times now. However, what I object to is this Del Boy charm offensive and boasts of similar ‘significant funds’ and I’m a football person etc when we haven’t seen any of this in practice or reality so far.

If Jed McCroy had come out at the start and admitted PDC is too expensive and the budget needs to be reigned in, then I would accept it and still regard our current position as a good thing. What you fluffers need to understand is that McCroy has not said this and that there ‘is the money for a promotion push’.

Thanks for reading.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

old town robin wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

swindon1969 wrote:

RedRich wrote:
On yet another note, Coventry could be going into administration next week. Also, Leon Clarke has been rulled out for the rest of the season with an ankle problem, so that should scupper them.

COYR

Im not worried about coventry, who cares about them, i am concerned with us as a club going backwards at the moment, its our chance to be were we ought to be, which is a sustainable championship side, bl oody hell, its knarking me off.

'Going backwards' - 'w(h)ere we ought to be' and 'a sustainable championship side'.

IMO we are exactly where we ought to be and definitely NOT going backwards (where were we 2 years ago) and we have not been a sustainable second tier club, if at all ever, since the last century.

I understand your frustration but more realism is needed by some supporters - not necessarily you 1969.

We are where we are - the embargo sucks but if you can not learn to just deal with it have your ONE say on here then be patient because the constant demands are becoming boring!

STFC supporters - what (if you were alive) were you doing 44 years ago today?

don't know about you mate, but I was at Wembley watching the Robins.

No mate, you weren't.

You may have been getting ready to go or whatever.

Ha Ha caught me out there Spider, I don't look at the calendar now I'm a pensioner, I thought it was the ides of march today. I was 23 years old, but what was I doing on the day before the biggest game for Swindon in living memory, probably worked and in the evening I would guess I was having a few beers with my mates, but can't remember where any more than I can of where I went after getting back after the game, most likely I went to the Lucarno..Happy days.

pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

old town robin wrote:

LeGod wrote: RedRich - i'm not being negative i'm just stating the facts if you cant see what is going on then you are blind to it. I really hope i am wrong and if i am i will hold my hands up and say i've been a T**T but i dont think i will be wrong. Call it negative if you like but i want my club to be successful and all im saying is why change a winning formula and im asking for the chairman to give a statement on the embargo. Is that too much too ask for a club i have supported a long long time.

LeGod, personally I think you are right with your thoughts that you think things are not as rosy as many of the Mr McCaubers on here seem to think. Yes it's good to be optimistic and support the team through difficult times and nothing anybody says with regards to Mac is going to change for the foreseeable future. He has to be given time to show he can still pull it off for promotion. But that doesn't mean the board has 100% support, especially as they're seen to have done next to nothing up front to sort out the mess Black and di canio left us in. First impressions are very important and we all hoped the new board would hit the ground running but the fact is that Jed and Co have been in charge for 6 weeks since they paid their £1, the club is living on the fat of the sale of Ritchie and early payments for next seasons sales. There has been several suggestions as to why the board has not yet been able to get the embargo lifted. I don't think it's because of any debts to anyone, it is pointing towards their inability to date to raise the 1.2 million which is very worrying.To keep on saying we'll have it sorted by tomorrow, is not being completely honest if it doesn't happen as they have intimated. How many on here would be happy if you sold someone a car or house and the buyer kept fobbing you off that you'll get your money soon.I have no doubts they will eventually get the money, would not be surprised if it wasn't until after the transfer window closes but hope I'm wrong that we have to scrap to end of the season with what we've got. More worrying is where the money will come from next season as I doubt very much they will be putting another million into the coffers. I can only see players on high wages for div 1 either not having their contract renewed or will be sold. Leaving Mac to rebuild with youth and conferance players on a wage structure that can be managed based on income. The balance of opinion is very much in favour of the red tinted glasses at the moment and probably rightly so, but if things don't go the way they think it will, the pendulum will start to swing as it did a couple of seasons ago when the future of Malpas and Wilson was debated. If gates start to fall as they surely will unless we get promoted, the Board will soon get the message from many of the fans that we are not Banbury FC, we are Swindon Town and proud of it. As with you I hope I'm wrong, but first impressions are not good. When they demonstrate they're fit for purpose, I'll be the first to acknowledge it.......until manyana then.

It is about time this club was run within its means. Our club nearly vanished when the man backing it stopped. It was rescued by a group of people keen to prevent seeing another club fold and the first thing people want is another sugar daddy !!!!! If we continue to rely on people bankrolling the club we are likely to see the January/February debacle occur on a regular basis. Kmac was the cheap option ? Was he ? Who was the expensive option ? Who would you prefer as chairman, Jed or Mitchell ? Mitchell a man that is lining his own pockets with the Russians money by contracting his company to do all the work at the stadium !!!! I know who I would prefer. It is not unusual for new contracts to be left until the end of the season. In our case this makes sense as we have a new manager and issuing new contracts based on what he has seen over 3 matches is not the way to go IMO. I really think some should put the situation we found ourselves in into perspective before demanding investment left right and centre. If someone has positive proof that the new board does not have a pot to p1ss in they should post this. I don't believe I will see a post confirming this. I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so". COYMR

I really think some on here want KMac and the board to fail so they can post "I told you so"...... I think most on here are concerned about whether Jed and his buddies and the mystery investors have sufficient funds to run the club. Jed says they have, but the struggle to stump up the £1.2m that the FL require, to lift the embargo, indicates that maybe they don't. If that is the case, then we should all be very worried for the future well being of the club.

Do they or don't they have the money to
lift the club out of the Embargo??That is the question to which everyone wants a one word answer?Simple YES or NO.If
the latter then they should never have bought a Division 1 Club?Conference
South O.K....

Apparently they tried to buy Forest Green Rovers. Talking to my (FGR supporting) mate last night at football. Will find out more next week.

mr_flibble wrote:
I’m one of the doubters, however I must stress that this is constructive criticism on the basis of what I have seen and read for myself. I am not being negative for negative sake.

My first problem is with the new board and the actual honesty we’ve been given. The first statement was that Jed McCroy claimed to have rung Paolo Di Canio before the agreed deadline. Paolo denies this and I am inclined to believe him. I suspect the new board wanted to get rid because of his £450,000 salary.

This leads to my next point. Jed McCroy stated that they had ‘significant funds’ that were similar to the budget that Black had promised for the season. Is this true? If it were, it would be likely that Paolo would have stayed at least to the season end and in all probability win the league again.

The club was apparently 13 million in debt, 9 million of which was kindly wiped out by the last board (but as Watkins told us Fitton was reluctant to do so). But where has the missing £4m gone? In the Q and A they said the club was debt free. This is not true.

McCroy has been in charge for 5 weeks and yet the embargo is still hanging over our heads. This is seriously hampering our chances. Whilst I applaud his charm offensive to play songs that the fans want, to improve the quality of the chips and to park his car correctly, its players that people want to see play. I am quickly starting to get the impression that he is some sort of loveable Del Boy type chancer.

I also applaud the board for wanting to increase revenue streams to make us sustainable. However is having 6-12 concerts a year going to be good for our pitch or pre-season preparation? Our pitch is our biggest asset and I wonder how our groundsman feels about this? How many concerts do Arsenal, Man City or even Wembley have per year? Our ground is a football stadium, not a purpose built music venue. Can 12 concerts a year fit into what is a football stadium model?

Why did Cheltenham turn McCroy down? With the greatest respect to our friendly rivals, we are a much bigger club, so why did they say no thanks? Just what was on the table?

My next problem is that Jed McCroy claims to be a football man. This means that he would know the difference between a good and bad manager. Paolo and his team left us top of the table with a +14 goal difference better than anyone else. His methods worked. He brought a winning mentality to the club and some of the supporters (those reading this will know who you are) as you are being criticised for being negative.

We now have MacDonald who’s’ task of following PDC mustn’t be easy. However, he’s overseen 5 conceded goals in three matches and has played people out of position with lopsided formations. We’ve slipped down the table as a result. I bet teams now fancy being able to score against us whereas before we could rely on Wes keeping a clean sheet.

The leads against Walsall and Brentford would have been preserved under PDC. No question. To say “that’s football” when conceding in the 90th minute to me demonstrates that MacDonald does not have a winning mentality. Anyone suggesting to PDC “that’s football” when you concede a last minute goal at home would have a 30 minute rant back in his face.

Having watched both of the last games, it also appears that the attacking play is still PDC influenced as the players play to the high work rate pressing game they know. Williams especially puts shifts in. But what has changed is the way we defend and at the moment it’s not working.

It is also possible for players to lose that edge of fitness they had when under PDC, hence the late conceding of goals in matches. As The Washbag reported, that Walsall goal was the first at home after 75 minutes all season.

But what has really got my goat is that MacDonald doesn’t seem to be a people person. There were 1,500 of us at Brentford and managers/coaches have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugouts. It was only when he went past the penalty spot did he think to look across and clap us and give us a wave.

What infuriated me at the end was that he completely ignored us and didn’t offer a clap, wave or instruct players to show any appreciation for my support, £40 I spent taking me and my wife, leaving work early and clocking the miles up from Bristol. It was telling that only Thompson really came over to us.

I’m not asking MacDonald to come and force everyone right over to the fans like PDC did at Bristol City, or milk it generally like PDC did, but at least to show some appreciation. I do fear his ‘mentality’ is like that of a Malpas and Monkey off our backs etc. God Forbid. He should be really hurting after throwing away leads and dare I say it criticise Roberts for that miss after we had scored. Brentford were all over the place and we failed to make it pay.

I wonder if Roberts woke up on Wednesday and thought, I should have won that? Under PDC he'd be told he should. MacDonald may just say 'thats football'. 'Nevermind'.

I wish I could have the same optimism a lot of you have with the manager and board, but to me, for the reasons above, I already have doubts whether the same level of performance can be maintained. This ‘were not ready to go up’ is also complete crap.

Yes I am happy to have a team to support and I am thankful someone has come in. Being 32 years of age, I have already seen us nearly go under something like 4 times now. However, what I object to is this Del Boy charm offensive and boasts of similar ‘significant funds’ and I’m a football person etc when we haven’t seen any of this in practice or reality so far.

If Jed McCroy had come out at the start and admitted PDC is too expensive and the budget needs to be reigned in, then I would accept it and still regard our current position as a good thing. What you fluffers need to understand is that McCroy has not said this and that there ‘is the money for a promotion push’.

Thanks for reading.

That's a good post mr flibble,but as Don69 said,it was jed or administration,we would all like a big hitter running the club,but beggers can't be choosy,jed has said on twitter tonight,the embargo is to be lifted and we will sign players,lets hope he's right and we move on.

Praise McCrory and his gang as much as you want for 'saving us'.....well who is going to save us from McCrory..?
The biggest issue I have is his love of Twitter and the crap he spouts off on there....I thought his #swindononthepiss comment was particularly intelligent after the Coventry game.....
I am not a negative supporter, I believe that KM may well do ok based upon the restrictions he will have to work within......my issue is that I have zero confidence in the new board....saviours or not, these are worrying times off the field....

mr_flibble wrote:
I’m one of the doubters, however I must stress that this is constructive criticism on the basis of what I have seen and read for myself. I am not being negative for negative sake.

My first problem is with the new board and the actual honesty we’ve been given. The first statement was that Jed McCroy claimed to have rung Paolo Di Canio before the agreed deadline. Paolo denies this and I am inclined to believe him. I suspect the new board wanted to get rid because of his £450,000 salary.

This leads to my next point. Jed McCroy stated that they had ‘significant funds’ that were similar to the budget that Black had promised for the season. Is this true? If it were, it would be likely that Paolo would have stayed at least to the season end and in all probability win the league again.

The club was apparently 13 million in debt, 9 million of which was kindly wiped out by the last board (but as Watkins told us Fitton was reluctant to do so). But where has the missing £4m gone? In the Q and A they said the club was debt free. This is not true.

McCroy has been in charge for 5 weeks and yet the embargo is still hanging over our heads. This is seriously hampering our chances. Whilst I applaud his charm offensive to play songs that the fans want, to improve the quality of the chips and to park his car correctly, its players that people want to see play. I am quickly starting to get the impression that he is some sort of loveable Del Boy type chancer.

I also applaud the board for wanting to increase revenue streams to make us sustainable. However is having 6-12 concerts a year going to be good for our pitch or pre-season preparation? Our pitch is our biggest asset and I wonder how our groundsman feels about this? How many concerts do Arsenal, Man City or even Wembley have per year? Our ground is a football stadium, not a purpose built music venue. Can 12 concerts a year fit into what is a football stadium model?

Why did Cheltenham turn McCroy down? With the greatest respect to our friendly rivals, we are a much bigger club, so why did they say no thanks? Just what was on the table?

My next problem is that Jed McCroy claims to be a football man. This means that he would know the difference between a good and bad manager. Paolo and his team left us top of the table with a +14 goal difference better than anyone else. His methods worked. He brought a winning mentality to the club and some of the supporters (those reading this will know who you are) as you are being criticised for being negative.

We now have MacDonald who’s’ task of following PDC mustn’t be easy. However, he’s overseen 5 conceded goals in three matches and has played people out of position with lopsided formations. We’ve slipped down the table as a result. I bet teams now fancy being able to score against us whereas before we could rely on Wes keeping a clean sheet.

The leads against Walsall and Brentford would have been preserved under PDC. No question. To say “that’s football” when conceding in the 90th minute to me demonstrates that MacDonald does not have a winning mentality. Anyone suggesting to PDC “that’s football” when you concede a last minute goal at home would have a 30 minute rant back in his face.

Having watched both of the last games, it also appears that the attacking play is still PDC influenced as the players play to the high work rate pressing game they know. Williams especially puts shifts in. But what has changed is the way we defend and at the moment it’s not working.

It is also possible for players to lose that edge of fitness they had when under PDC, hence the late conceding of goals in matches. As The Washbag reported, that Walsall goal was the first at home after 75 minutes all season.

But what has really got my goat is that MacDonald doesn’t seem to be a people person. There were 1,500 of us at Brentford and managers/coaches have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugouts. It was only when he went past the penalty spot did he think to look across and clap us and give us a wave.

What infuriated me at the end was that he completely ignored us and didn’t offer a clap, wave or instruct players to show any appreciation for my support, £40 I spent taking me and my wife, leaving work early and clocking the miles up from Bristol. It was telling that only Thompson really came over to us.

I’m not asking MacDonald to come and force everyone right over to the fans like PDC did at Bristol City, or milk it generally like PDC did, but at least to show some appreciation. I do fear his ‘mentality’ is like that of a Malpas and Monkey off our backs etc. God Forbid. He should be really hurting after throwing away leads and dare I say it criticise Roberts for that miss after we had scored. Brentford were all over the place and we failed to make it pay.

I wonder if Roberts woke up on Wednesday and thought, I should have won that? Under PDC he'd be told he should. MacDonald may just say 'thats football'. 'Nevermind'.

I wish I could have the same optimism a lot of you have with the manager and board, but to me, for the reasons above, I already have doubts whether the same level of performance can be maintained. This ‘were not ready to go up’ is also complete crap.

Yes I am happy to have a team to support and I am thankful someone has come in. Being 32 years of age, I have already seen us nearly go under something like 4 times now. However, what I object to is this Del Boy charm offensive and boasts of similar ‘significant funds’ and I’m a football person etc when we haven’t seen any of this in practice or reality so far.

If Jed McCroy had come out at the start and admitted PDC is too expensive and the budget needs to be reigned in, then I would accept it and still regard our current position as a good thing. What you fluffers need to understand is that McCroy has not said this and that there ‘is the money for a promotion push’.

Thanks for reading.

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joey butler says...
10:27pm Tue 12 Mar 13

In recent months and including long before PDC and Mr Black left us all in the lurch, we have blamed the following for poor results:

Poor quality of away pitches.

Amazing goalkeepers on the other teams.

Playing against teams with new Managers.

Bad weather.

Terrible referees.

Not enough players in Swindon squad, mainly claimed by PDC.

Forwards who cannot score goals, mainly said by me to be fair.

Shocking home form.

The transfer embargo.

The catering at the County Ground.


Is it not perhaps possible that we are quite simply, just not good enough??”

....................
....................
.


Sorry, but I need to add to my above list of noted excuses for why our form was so very poor, mainly before but also since PDC quit:-

At 9.55am on this thread, RedRich pointed out that we have hit the woodwork more than any other team this season!!!.

I respectfully suggest that if all posts in the league were moved 6 inches outwards and the bar raised 6 inches upwards, we would have already been automatically promoted, simple as that!!!

mr_fibble

Remember PAOLO, well it's Mr McCRORY...........so
me very good points raised, however, if at great length ;-).

OTR

Happy days, indeed!

Some crackers there from Mr.Flibble, very well said sir.

I also agree with the poster on Steve Evans aka Hoggish Greedly from Captain Planet!

Things don't add up, and I fear retrenchment.

sp1dersw3b wrote:
mr_fibble

Remember PAOLO, well it's Mr McCRORY...........so

me very good points raised, however, if at great length ;-).

LOL - my sincere apologies mr fLibble

madterrier wrote:

mr_flibble wrote:
I’m one of the doubters, however I must stress that this is constructive criticism on the basis of what I have seen and read for myself. I am not being negative for negative sake.

My first problem is with the new board and the actual honesty we’ve been given. The first statement was that Jed McCroy claimed to have rung Paolo Di Canio before the agreed deadline. Paolo denies this and I am inclined to believe him. I suspect the new board wanted to get rid because of his £450,000 salary.

This leads to my next point. Jed McCroy stated that they had ‘significant funds’ that were similar to the budget that Black had promised for the season. Is this true? If it were, it would be likely that Paolo would have stayed at least to the season end and in all probability win the league again.

The club was apparently 13 million in debt, 9 million of which was kindly wiped out by the last board (but as Watkins told us Fitton was reluctant to do so). But where has the missing £4m gone? In the Q and A they said the club was debt free. This is not true.

McCroy has been in charge for 5 weeks and yet the embargo is still hanging over our heads. This is seriously hampering our chances. Whilst I applaud his charm offensive to play songs that the fans want, to improve the quality of the chips and to park his car correctly, its players that people want to see play. I am quickly starting to get the impression that he is some sort of loveable Del Boy type chancer.

I also applaud the board for wanting to increase revenue streams to make us sustainable. However is having 6-12 concerts a year going to be good for our pitch or pre-season preparation? Our pitch is our biggest asset and I wonder how our groundsman feels about this? How many concerts do Arsenal, Man City or even Wembley have per year? Our ground is a football stadium, not a purpose built music venue. Can 12 concerts a year fit into what is a football stadium model?

Why did Cheltenham turn McCroy down? With the greatest respect to our friendly rivals, we are a much bigger club, so why did they say no thanks? Just what was on the table?

My next problem is that Jed McCroy claims to be a football man. This means that he would know the difference between a good and bad manager. Paolo and his team left us top of the table with a +14 goal difference better than anyone else. His methods worked. He brought a winning mentality to the club and some of the supporters (those reading this will know who you are) as you are being criticised for being negative.

We now have MacDonald who’s’ task of following PDC mustn’t be easy. However, he’s overseen 5 conceded goals in three matches and has played people out of position with lopsided formations. We’ve slipped down the table as a result. I bet teams now fancy being able to score against us whereas before we could rely on Wes keeping a clean sheet.

The leads against Walsall and Brentford would have been preserved under PDC. No question. To say “that’s football” when conceding in the 90th minute to me demonstrates that MacDonald does not have a winning mentality. Anyone suggesting to PDC “that’s football” when you concede a last minute goal at home would have a 30 minute rant back in his face.

Having watched both of the last games, it also appears that the attacking play is still PDC influenced as the players play to the high work rate pressing game they know. Williams especially puts shifts in. But what has changed is the way we defend and at the moment it’s not working.

It is also possible for players to lose that edge of fitness they had when under PDC, hence the late conceding of goals in matches. As The Washbag reported, that Walsall goal was the first at home after 75 minutes all season.

But what has really got my goat is that MacDonald doesn’t seem to be a people person. There were 1,500 of us at Brentford and managers/coaches have to walk across the pitch to get to the dugouts. It was only when he went past the penalty spot did he think to look across and clap us and give us a wave.

What infuriated me at the end was that he completely ignored us and didn’t offer a clap, wave or instruct players to show any appreciation for my support, £40 I spent taking me and my wife, leaving work early and clocking the miles up from Bristol. It was telling that only Thompson really came over to us.

I’m not asking MacDonald to come and force everyone right over to the fans like PDC did at Bristol City, or milk it generally like PDC did, but at least to show some appreciation. I do fear his ‘mentality’ is like that of a Malpas and Monkey off our backs etc. God Forbid. He should be really hurting after throwing away leads and dare I say it criticise Roberts for that miss after we had scored. Brentford were all over the place and we failed to make it pay.

I wonder if Roberts woke up on Wednesday and thought, I should have won that? Under PDC he'd be told he should. MacDonald may just say 'thats football'. 'Nevermind'.

I wish I could have the same optimism a lot of you have with the manager and board, but to me, for the reasons above, I already have doubts whether the same level of performance can be maintained. This ‘were not ready to go up’ is also complete crap.

Yes I am happy to have a team to support and I am thankful someone has come in. Being 32 years of age, I have already seen us nearly go under something like 4 times now. However, what I object to is this Del Boy charm offensive and boasts of similar ‘significant funds’ and I’m a football person etc when we haven’t seen any of this in practice or reality so far.

If Jed McCroy had come out at the start and admitted PDC is too expensive and the budget needs to be reigned in, then I would accept it and still regard our current position as a good thing. What you fluffers need to understand is that McCroy has not said this and that there ‘is the money for a promotion push’.

Thanks for reading.

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A very good post,

Like you I was disappointed with the behaviour of the team and management at the end of the game at Brentford, I put it down to them being gutted with the defeat.

I can see where your coming from, I'm still confident that the new board will come though, but I suppose we will have to wait and see, what I am asking though is that they are given a chance, lets see what they can do over 18mths or so, realistically none of us know what state the club was left in, I don't think 5 weeks is enough time to be judged on.

sp1dersw3b wrote:
OTR

Happy days, indeed!

Spider, I had a rethink of what I was doing the day before the Wembley game, as I was on nights at press steel at the time, it would have been a couple of hours shut-eye after finishing shift at 6.00 friday morning and out for a bevie at lunch time, there was a pub in Regent St I used to like visiting for their cheese and onion rolls and the juke box, it was near to the golden lion bridge over the canal, can't recall the name, but we had licencing hours in those days, so just a couple of pints to

What made me recall the work situation was we were not allowed to have time off to go to the Hawthorns for the Burnley replay, but we all clocked out to go home and watch the highlight on the TV, think from a football perspective the semi 3-2 win was more exciting than the arsenal game. I read an article from Frank Mclintock that said the Swindon defeat is what spured them on to do the double the following season and win the fairs city cup.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: Thanks, you make my point for me cookie. "Ritchie was sold to help cover the wages until the end of the season". Well wasn't that what the threat of administration is about? You have no more substance to your argument than you claim that I have to mine. When I see the Embargo lifted (next week?) and some money materialises for new players then I might change my mind. until then there seems only to be you and a few others who need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Final paragraph of this post is spot on. The real proof of Jed & Co is,whether or not,they have sufficient funds to have the embargo lifted.If they don't then there is real need for concern as to the future of Swindon Town a.f.c.

'Swindon Town a.f.c.' ???!!!!???? Just a little hint of the B'muffters here?

Don't worry sp1dersw3b....a.f.c.
wimbledon really!!
"Young Man(Cloughie!)in my day all Football Clubs from Arsenal a.f.c.to Wrexham a.f.c.the a.f.c.came after the
club name always!In the days of Sam
Burton ........!!!
COYR

P*ssed Off wrote:

Scribblemilk wrote:
Yes the team was doing well before you came in, so why change a winning formula?

The loss of points I put down directly to you Kevin, changing the shape, playing Ferry out of position, and in my eyes every game you have played has been with one less attacker but higher up the pitch, which as you so rightly say has made our defence more vulnerable.

I totally accept that you may are an individual, and you may have some ideas you wish to implement, but we are not in youth football now Kevin, your priority is winning games. Did you not do your homework before you came in? We were a great defensive team, why change the system!

A good manager would come in and change little to a winning team, and then look to adjust things to improve. You've come in and in my eyes made some big adjustments that haven't worked, so go back to what worked before, don't keep trying to fix what you have broken with new ideas. Go back to what the players know, next season is the time for new ideas, now is about keeping the players fit for the final run in.

If we don't get promotion, it will be your fault, and i will blame you for it. Go back to playing a deeper defence with two wingers and two up front, for the rest of the season, and do it before the players lose confidence, because as we know its a confidence game, and if there heads go down, so does the team!

Scribblemilk........

.more like dribbled your milk down your chin from your corn flakes. Blame, blame, blame....are you American with the blame culture seem to have? Give the man a chance for gods sake or did you apply for the managers post and are having sour grapes at not getting it? No, I thought not - we are all great managers, players etc from the sidelines and stands. Perhaps you should go to the training ground or the CG and tell Kevin exactly what you think to his face.....again probably not just as I thought. Oh and by the way this is not just aimed at you (you just happen to be the fall guy for today) but at all the moaners and groaners on this site. As Vic Morgan said in his column, This is our team, we are in it for the ride and for life......if you can't handle it, then off you go!! Does you boss at work tell you every little thing that goes on behind the scenes with what you might not agree or don't even know why the decisions have been taken? No, you just take your wages, keep your trap shut and keep your job. How about doing the same with STFC and let the board/manager get on with their job!!

For Someone who calls himself **** off, that's quite funny lol Ha Ha

Blah blah blah, yawn,yawn ,yawn.