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SWINDON TOWN: MacDonald targets Spurs trio
6:00am Monday 11th March 2013 in Sport Exclusive By Sam Morshead
MAKING MOVES: Kevin MacDonald
SWINDON Town are lining up loan moves for three Tottenham Hotspur youngsters, the Advertiser understands.
Midfielder Dean Parrett and winger Cristian Ceballos are believed to be the Robins’ two main targets and could arrive at the County Ground in time for the trip to Brentford tomorrow, with the Football League expected to lift the transfer embargo currently hanging over the club early this week.
A third, unidentified player – understood to be a midfielder – is also on the radar as manager Kevin MacDonald considers how best to add to his squad as he prepares for the final 10 games of the campaign, with automatic promotion still very much in sight.
The new Town board’s links to Tottenham are strong. The head of youth development at White Hart Lane, Tim Sherwood, has been a guest at the County Ground this season, while Spurs’ striking coach Les Ferdinand is believed to have applied for the manager’s position in SN1.
Now the powers-that-be at Swindon look set to build on that relationship, with three players lined up for a potential switch to Wiltshire.
Parrett, 21, has spent time on loan at Yeovil and Charlton and Aldershot and would add competition for places in the middle of midfield. Former Barcelona wide man Ceballos swapped the Nou Camp for north London in the summer of 2011 but has yet to make his first-team debut for Tottenham.
The club hope to have the embargo removed today, as they continue to mop up unpaid fees.
An instalment of £20,000 due to Shrewsbury as part of the transfer of James Collins has been paid, while other outstanding amounts – one of which is believed to be due to Norwich for the services of Chris Martin – will soon be resolved.
The Swindon board have had to ring-fence around £1.2million in a fund to convince the Football League that they are fit to practise.
General manager Steve Murrall told the Advertiser: “We had an agreement with the Football League that we would bring in certain trenches of money in order for the embargo to be lifted. That’s in progress.”
Murrall also explained why former assistant manager Fabrizio Piccareta and coaches Domenico Doardo and Claudio Donatelli had not yet been paid their February wages.
Piccareta went to the BBC on Thursday to complain about the situation, but Murrall said that it was down to the Italian to return documentation regarding the terms of his departure from the County Ground before the final settlement could be reached.
“The actual situation is Fabrizio and the other guys came into the office on February 26. I asked Fabrizio to sign a document which he took a copy of away in order to translate,” he said. “That document needs signing before Fabrizio can be paid.
“As soon as I receive that back he will be paid immediately. That documentation is just a general closing of his contract that any business would do to protect themselves going forward.”
With regards to Donatelli and Doardo, Murrall said: “All of their equipment was not paid until March 1, so they would not have been paid in February.”
Comments(115)
ScottLeitch
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6:41am Mon 11 Mar 13
Baritone
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6:45am Mon 11 Mar 13
Obika was a total failure when he was here but he had the proven quality - just did not seem to want to use it for some reason! Spurs are traditionally a team who like to get the ball down on the ground and pass the ball - as does McDonald apparently.
The increased ground passing movement was evident at times on Saturday - something a previous manager referred to as "tippy tappy" football. However, it seems to work for Barcelona!
Failing to win "easy" home games has cost us dearly and can only be rectified by wins at our main rivals - starting with the next two games. Let's hope these new acquisitions will tip the balance very much in our favour.
Baritone
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7:02am Mon 11 Mar 13
kimstfc2
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7:35am Mon 11 Mar 13
ScottLeitch wrote:So were Danny Ward, Jimmy Davis and James Milner not 'gambles' at the time?
Not sure youth players are what we need at this stage, seems abit of a gamble...
Benzel
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7:52am Mon 11 Mar 13
kimstfc2 wrote:Charlie Austin, Simon Ferry, Paul Caddis, Nathan Thompson.. Also seems to be working well for Walsall...
ScottLeitch wrote:So were Danny Ward, Jimmy Davis and James Milner not 'gambles' at the time?
Not sure youth players are what we need at this stage, seems abit of a gamble...
Benzel
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7:52am Mon 11 Mar 13
kimstfc2 wrote:Charlie Austin, Simon Ferry, Paul Caddis, Nathan Thompson.. Also seems to be working well for Walsall...
ScottLeitch wrote:So were Danny Ward, Jimmy Davis and James Milner not 'gambles' at the time?
Not sure youth players are what we need at this stage, seems abit of a gamble...
London Red
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8:04am Mon 11 Mar 13
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Looks like KM is on Den's wavelength and thinks the lack of supply is the Mao reason we have not been scoring enough
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Very glad a wideman is on the list and hope that will see us go back to a more traditional 442 and use the wings as that has been where we have been good over the last 21 months
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Even if they come in time for Brentford they should only be on the bench
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How we adopt the team suggested on here yesterday
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Wes
Thompson Flint Ward Jay
Rooney Ferry Macca Williams
Rooney Collins
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Bench - Miller Roberts and RDV as main options plus potentially the Spurs lads - that would suddenly look very strong!!!
London Red
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8:05am Mon 11 Mar 13
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Mao - main
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How - hope
the wizard
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8:18am Mon 11 Mar 13
They get my vote, great news, and hopefully our youngsters will learn from them as well as an added bonus.
Med Red
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8:22am Mon 11 Mar 13
mallorca
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8:27am Mon 11 Mar 13
At the Time the FL concluded the deal why were we not told of major debts that would put an embrgo in place again.
As mormal we ge it all secondhand,no doubt without Jed and CO the sale ofMR we would no longer be her.
Yet as normal it was rumours/speculation Fairy stories.
I´m surprised the players have done as well as the have over tghe last 2 months and also the Fans who have shelled out hard earned money in these bad time.
For me when they came out with he ho here we go debt free etc it was like a lull before a storm.
I think all we ask and deserve is the Truth GOOD OR BAD.
I´m not moaning but if this to be an honest a fresh start let the Board start as it means to go as if the don´t us SWIBNDON FANS are so so fickle
Bassett Hound
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8:29am Mon 11 Mar 13
Med Red wrote:They look like reserve team players not youth players. 21 years old
Di Canio tried to sign 3 experienced players before he departed. Whereas KM's going for 3 youth team players. A totally different approach and more risky, imo. Lets hope it works
umpcah
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8:51am Mon 11 Mar 13
Bassett Hound wrote:Or to put it another way fringe players in a Premiership club waiting to show what they can do in a match.
Med Red wrote:They look like reserve team players not youth players. 21 years old
Di Canio tried to sign 3 experienced players before he departed. Whereas KM's going for 3 youth team players. A totally different approach and more risky, imo. Lets hope it works
ScottLeitch
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9:01am Mon 11 Mar 13
kimstfc2 wrote:Its amazing how defensive people are at the moment!. For each of those 3 decent signings how many bad ones have we had?. I'd have liked to see at least one reasonably experienced league 1 player come in... im sure plenty are available.
ScottLeitch wrote:So were Danny Ward, Jimmy Davis and James Milner not 'gambles' at the time?
Not sure youth players are what we need at this stage, seems abit of a gamble...
London Red
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9:01am Mon 11 Mar 13
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Also Cheltenham have now said they don't want to let him go now - so he is no longer available
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BWP is also no longer available - so its only Green out of those 3 about - thus the point they are not that readliy available
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Also maybe this Barca youth product is better than Green?
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Maybe Spurs were not willing to let him go to us under PdC (he never played Bostock after all) but will under KM?
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All we should do is look at it as we have 2 possible 3 new players coming in at a vital to time to add competition and cover tour current squad - that can only be a good thing and hopefully give us that boost we need to get up in to the top 2
Stratton Red
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9:02am Mon 11 Mar 13
Benzel wrote:I agree it is a bit of a gamble. Although the Barca chap sounds like he shuld be quality.
kimstfc2 wrote:Charlie Austin, Simon Ferry, Paul Caddis, Nathan Thompson.. Also seems to be working well for Walsall...ScottLeitch wrote: Not sure youth players are what we need at this stage, seems abit of a gamble...So were Danny Ward, Jimmy Davis and James Milner not 'gambles' at the time?
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Kim, Benzel - It's quite easy to point out the few players that have done well on loan. The list is 10x longer for those that have been mediocre to awful.
Davidsyrett
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9:10am Mon 11 Mar 13
A midfielder who can open up a tight defence is what is needed if we are to get in the autos, something that was missing Saturday,
Expect a completely different performance with or without the loanees tomorrow.
LeGod
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9:11am Mon 11 Mar 13
teddownsouth
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9:12am Mon 11 Mar 13
SimonPrice351
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9:29am Mon 11 Mar 13
Very highly rated by Oldham fans and available for nothing.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=MYFJPh21J
Nk
SimonPrice351
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9:34am Mon 11 Mar 13
BradleyDiallo.
Wilesy
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9:34am Mon 11 Mar 13
We picked a duff one from Arsenal last year in Boateng but maybe he was just too young or not ready or whatever, but Parrett has league experience already, and you would hope Ceballos can have a Robson-Kanu style impact.
Do we not need a forward though, sounds like a winger and 2 centre mids, not sure we need 2 centre mids? Unless there is a forward to come in as well just not yet reported
joeyboy
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9:50am Mon 11 Mar 13
the wizard
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9:53am Mon 11 Mar 13
avo
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9:55am Mon 11 Mar 13
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The old equation, 4 points from every two games works either way around, 3 at home 1 away, or 1 at home and 3 away, and if we win tomorrow, i'll put my hand up and say I would have settled for that return from our last 2 fixtures!!
ScottLeitch
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10:01am Mon 11 Mar 13
stfctrowbridgepaul
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10:09am Mon 11 Mar 13
the wizard
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10:12am Mon 11 Mar 13
mallorca wrote:Mallorca,
OK now we know a few more details.
At the Time the FL concluded the deal why were we not told of major debts that would put an embrgo in place again.
As mormal we ge it all secondhand,no doubt without Jed and CO the sale ofMR we would no longer be her.
Yet as normal it was rumours/speculation Fairy stories.
I´m surprised the players have done as well as the have over tghe last 2 months and also the Fans who have shelled out hard earned money in these bad time.
For me when they came out with he ho here we go debt free etc it was like a lull before a storm.
I think all we ask and deserve is the Truth GOOD OR BAD.
I´m not moaning but if this to be an honest a fresh start let the Board start as it means to go as if the don´t us SWIBNDON FANS are so so fickle
Hope things are well in your neck of the woods. If you had been able to attend the pre match Q & A session in the LL on Saturday I think you would been a lot happier and more settled in your mind with these guys.
They are prepared to listen to many of our concerns and work out solutions.
Their plan for utilising many of our facilities is encouraging because they are looking to maximise our resources to bring money in, not a bad thing. Just now today we are looking at three loan players from Spurs, the debts are paid off, they have done a lot in a short time. A new management team have been appointed and so it goes on, there is also a meeting with PDC and his staff this week to get things cleared up and sorted, if the PDC team should choose to do so. I wouldn't take too much notice of the Fickle Fan Club.
dreamofacleansheet2
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10:48am Mon 11 Mar 13
Bravo, bravo, bravo that man.
Keep William up front with who ever, give them some service and we'll win the league don't you know.
joeyboy
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10:53am Mon 11 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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11:10am Mon 11 Mar 13
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:dreamo, I'm with you entirely on the service but don't you think it's worth giving Williams a go on the wing? We would still benefit from his goalscoring ability (yes Jock, he does have some!) but we'd also be using his pace and strength to good effect. He created his goal on Saturday through a powerful run down the right.
Well well our manager has taken a look at our team over the week in training and on match day and has concluded our weakness is midfield.
Bravo, bravo, bravo that man.
Keep William up front with who ever, give them some service and we'll win the league don't you know.
Stilloyal
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11:14am Mon 11 Mar 13
Home results havn't gone our way recently , most times it's because the away bus has been parked, but that wasn't the case on Saturday.
The balance and shape of the the team was all wrong, Ferry playing wide won't work he's far more effective playing through the middle. However who do you then leave out ? Macca was my MOM and deserves his place there whilst Millar adopts the more holding role.
Ferry can't be left out IMHO so where do you play him ? We need two wingers out there and the only way I can see it is Williams reverts to his more natural wing role with Robbo taking the other side. Keep Millar in the holding role and Macca as playmaker with Ferry in the hole behind Collins.
As has been mentioned the defence isn't performing as solidly the last couple of games and I can't put my finger on why except to say that Nathan was playing too narrow on Saturday ( probably to orders).
However we do lose something when he's not playing because we lose the attacking option, Devera doesn't do that. Seems like Nathan might be out for tomorrow , he was getting his knee treated and strapped in the dugout after he came off, I do hope he's fit.
I welcome these loan players and hope they can spark us a little.
My gut feeling is that we are not going anywhere now this season , going by Saturdays performance we have lost a spark and the urgency although we did play some decent football at times. I hope I'm wrong otherwise Joe Coral will be keeping my money.
HOOKEY
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11:16am Mon 11 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Apart form Flint go along with that team now Devera fit a gain he will make a big difference at the back,his not a hoofer lke Flint
Ready made pros don't tend to come up for loans that often - then if they do they tend to be on pretty big wages as their clubs won't just let them out for free
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Looks like KM is on Den's wavelength and thinks the lack of supply is the Mao reason we have not been scoring enough
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Very glad a wideman is on the list and hope that will see us go back to a more traditional 442 and use the wings as that has been where we have been good over the last 21 months
.
Even if they come in time for Brentford they should only be on the bench
.
How we adopt the team suggested on here yesterday
.
Wes
Thompson Flint Ward Jay
Rooney Ferry Macca Williams
Rooney Collins
.
Bench - Miller Roberts and RDV as main options plus potentially the Spurs lads - that would suddenly look very strong!!!
RED-MERLIN
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11:29am Mon 11 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Miller is a must for the bench, he made only 1 past to a red shirt on saturday, can't believe he is even considered for our first team ! stupid tackle to give away the pen. wasn't that good at coventry !
Ready made pros don't tend to come up for loans that often - then if they do they tend to be on pretty big wages as their clubs won't just let them out for free
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Looks like KM is on Den's wavelength and thinks the lack of supply is the Mao reason we have not been scoring enough
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Very glad a wideman is on the list and hope that will see us go back to a more traditional 442 and use the wings as that has been where we have been good over the last 21 months
.
Even if they come in time for Brentford they should only be on the bench
.
How we adopt the team suggested on here yesterday
.
Wes
Thompson Flint Ward Jay
Rooney Ferry Macca Williams
Rooney Collins
.
Bench - Miller Roberts and RDV as main options plus potentially the Spurs lads - that would suddenly look very strong!!!
Davidsyrett
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11:39am Mon 11 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:I'd play L Rooney on the wing, still a great prospect and under the right guidance could be a very good player, but needs his confidence restoring after PdC tore it to shreds.
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:dreamo, I'm with you entirely on the service but don't you think it's worth giving Williams a go on the wing? We would still benefit from his goalscoring ability (yes Jock, he does have some!) but we'd also be using his pace and strength to good effect. He created his goal on Saturday through a powerful run down the right.
Well well our manager has taken a look at our team over the week in training and on match day and has concluded our weakness is midfield.
Bravo, bravo, bravo that man.
Keep William up front with who ever, give them some service and we'll win the league don't you know.
Williams isn't a winger and can't cross but he is a handful up front with his pace.
My team tomorrow:
Wes
Joe, Flinty, Ward, Jay,
Robbo, Macca, Ferry, L. Rooney
Willo, A Rooney
Stilloyal
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11:52am Mon 11 Mar 13
Bassett Hound
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12:04pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Stilloyal wrote:He scored most of his 20 odd goals last year from wide positions.
Dave, Williams is a winger at least thats where he played before coming to Town.
the wizard
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12:18pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Stilloyal wrote:Loyal, Bassett and many others,
Dave, Williams is a winger at least thats where he played before coming to Town.
Stilloyal wrote:
Dave, Williams is a winger at least thats where he played before coming to Town.
Which is why I have been pleading for him to be tried there for weeks and weeks, same as Raffa is a striker, so why not try them in their best positions ??? surely it has to be worth a punt, please, very nice pretty please.
burley01rs
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12:24pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Davidsyrett
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12:25pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Bassett Hound wrote:I stand corrected!! but makes it even worse that his crossing is so poor.
Stilloyal wrote:He scored most of his 20 odd goals last year from wide positions.
Dave, Williams is a winger at least thats where he played before coming to Town.
If he's played the majority of the his career on the wing, 65 goals from 322 appearances is a pretty good return.
Davidsyrett
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12:28pm Mon 11 Mar 13
burley01rs wrote:well unless Thompson is the worlds best player I'm sure there are a few players better, even at Spurs!
How is youth player from Spurs better than Louis Thompson?
the wizard
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12:44pm Mon 11 Mar 13
TownGooner68
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12:48pm Mon 11 Mar 13
grove red wrote:John Bostock is now playing in the MLS with Toronto FC
Shame we could not have got bostock back to. think bostock is in america playing now on loan for another club. Things need to happen soon as i think we need to freshen the squad up asap. massive games coming up now this is make or break now and its time for the players to step up to the challenge after all the hard work they have done in the past. Just glad we are playing away from home as i think it suits our play better at the moment.
TownGooner68
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1:08pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Bassett Hound
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1:11pm Mon 11 Mar 13
He has played 22\23 games for Spurs Elite under 21's and Spurs reserves scoring 11 goals most of those from striker position.
Oi Den!
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1:14pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Davidsyrett wrote:Yes, but identifying which ones are better than those we have already is the hard part. There are always plenty of youth players at Premier League clubs who will never make it at any level of professional football. It's always puzzles me how it's assumed that just because we have "links" with Spurs, Man City, Liverpool or whoever that we'll end up being able to borrow superb players. Yes, we could get lucky but if they are good enough to walk straight into our first team they are probably good enough to be knocking on the door at their own clubs. Usually the big clubs loan their youth players out to the likes of us as a way of giving them experience and finding out how good they are. Let's see how good these Spurs players are if we do sign them.
burley01rs wrote:well unless Thompson is the worlds best player I'm sure there are a few players better, even at Spurs!
How is youth player from Spurs better than Louis Thompson?
How satisfying it would be if we could build a squad of our own players that's big enough and good enough. I know I'll be told that loan players are all part of football at our level nowadays. Maybe that's true. But why? And does it really have to be that way?
TownGooner68
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1:30pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:I agree, maybe its changing at STFC academy you only have to look at Miles Storey he looks like a premier league striker in the making and I hope we can keep him for as long as possible
Davidsyrett wrote:Yes, but identifying which ones are better than those we have already is the hard part. There are always plenty of youth players at Premier League clubs who will never make it at any level of professional football. It's always puzzles me how it's assumed that just because we have "links" with Spurs, Man City, Liverpool or whoever that we'll end up being able to borrow superb players. Yes, we could get lucky but if they are good enough to walk straight into our first team they are probably good enough to be knocking on the door at their own clubs. Usually the big clubs loan their youth players out to the likes of us as a way of giving them experience and finding out how good they are. Let's see how good these Spurs players are if we do sign them.
burley01rs wrote:well unless Thompson is the worlds best player I'm sure there are a few players better, even at Spurs!
How is youth player from Spurs better than Louis Thompson?
How satisfying it would be if we could build a squad of our own players that's big enough and good enough. I know I'll be told that loan players are all part of football at our level nowadays. Maybe that's true. But why? And does it really have to be that way?
London Red
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1:47pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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Parrett is 21 and has league expereince at 3 different clubs as well as Spurs reserve level
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Thats probably why he is considered better - or more likely more experienced!
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Den don't forget both Wes and Ferry were loan players - but are now STFC players and on top of that the best STFC players!
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No loan potentially no Ferry or Wes!
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Surely it is about getting the balance right - have enough of your own complemented by loanees - either as a short term cover for injuries or with a view to a perm to strengthen the squad
the wizard
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1:52pm Mon 11 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Come on then LR, who would you choose, Macca or Bostock ?
Louis Thompson is 17 and hardly played any league games (if any - aren't all his appearance in the cup?)
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Parrett is 21 and has league expereince at 3 different clubs as well as Spurs reserve level
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Thats probably why he is considered better - or more likely more experienced!
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Den don't forget both Wes and Ferry were loan players - but are now STFC players and on top of that the best STFC players!
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No loan potentially no Ferry or Wes!
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Surely it is about getting the balance right - have enough of your own complemented by loanees - either as a short term cover for injuries or with a view to a perm to strengthen the squad
old town robin
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1:56pm Mon 11 Mar 13
teddownsouth wrote:I agree with you the defence is beginning to look a bit shaky of late, but Devera is not the answer until he gets himself match fit. he was 5 yards off the pace and let the team down with some sloppy defending on Saturday. Mac made a big mistake bringing him on as Thompsons replacement he's not a very good fullback, he's a centre back and he cost us a goal and two points Saturday. Mac would have done better moving macca to right back or even Louis Thompson would have been a good shout as he's not short of pace. With 1 minute left to play I don't know what Devera thought he was playing at getting stranded and losing his man, but I'd be surprised to see him start Tuesday
Great news that additions to the squad are now imminent. IMO the team needs new blood at the back to tighten things up in defence. The points we have lost at home recently indicate that the defence is not performing as well as it was a few months ago. Devera coming back will help but more is needed.
I just hope Nats knee isn't too bad and he's OK for brentford.
old town robin
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1:56pm Mon 11 Mar 13
teddownsouth wrote:I agree with you the defence is beginning to look a bit shaky of late, but Devera is not the answer until he gets himself match fit. he was 5 yards off the pace and let the team down with some sloppy defending on Saturday. Mac made a big mistake bringing him on as Thompsons replacement he's not a very good fullback, he's a centre back and he cost us a goal and two points Saturday. Mac would have done better moving macca to right back or even Louis Thompson would have been a good shout as he's not short of pace. With 1 minute left to play I don't know what Devera thought he was playing at getting stranded and losing his man, but I'd be surprised to see him start Tuesday
Great news that additions to the squad are now imminent. IMO the team needs new blood at the back to tighten things up in defence. The points we have lost at home recently indicate that the defence is not performing as well as it was a few months ago. Devera coming back will help but more is needed.
I just hope Nats knee isn't too bad and he's OK for brentford.
RobinsTalk
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1:59pm Mon 11 Mar 13
My question is, are these players ones that KM has identified as being what we need or are we taking them because the new owners have 'strong links' with Spurs?
My point being, is KM going to miss out on HIS targets so that this Spurs link stays strong?
Oi Den!
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2:14pm Mon 11 Mar 13
I recognise that your comment is a refelection of the way things are ("Surely it is about getting the balance right - have enough of your own complemented by loanees - either as a short term cover for injuries or with a view to a perm to strengthen the squad") but I just wonder why it has to be this way. Wouldn't it be better if all teams were comprised mostly of the clubs' own players, and loan players were signed as a last resort to cover emergency shortages?
MITTED
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2:34pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Stilloyal wrote:Drop Miller. Macca has the legs to do the holding role (not to mention is better than Miller anyway) and support Ferry.
Well some action at last although I do know the reason for nothing happening so far. Any action is better than no action, every action creates a reaction and the current players I hope will react positively to new players coming in.
Home results havn't gone our way recently , most times it's because the away bus has been parked, but that wasn't the case on Saturday.
The balance and shape of the the team was all wrong, Ferry playing wide won't work he's far more effective playing through the middle. However who do you then leave out ? Macca was my MOM and deserves his place there whilst Millar adopts the more holding role.
Ferry can't be left out IMHO so where do you play him ? We need two wingers out there and the only way I can see it is Williams reverts to his more natural wing role with Robbo taking the other side. Keep Millar in the holding role and Macca as playmaker with Ferry in the hole behind Collins.
As has been mentioned the defence isn't performing as solidly the last couple of games and I can't put my finger on why except to say that Nathan was playing too narrow on Saturday ( probably to orders).
However we do lose something when he's not playing because we lose the attacking option, Devera doesn't do that. Seems like Nathan might be out for tomorrow , he was getting his knee treated and strapped in the dugout after he came off, I do hope he's fit.
I welcome these loan players and hope they can spark us a little.
My gut feeling is that we are not going anywhere now this season , going by Saturdays performance we have lost a spark and the urgency although we did play some decent football at times. I hope I'm wrong otherwise Joe Coral will be keeping my money.
No matter how hard Ferry might work out on the right, it is a total waste of his talent and the player who will be crowned Player of the Year in a few weeks.
COYR
BournemouthRobin
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2:42pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Now - wheres my jag????
Stratton Red
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2:57pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Wes
Thompson, Ward, Macca, Jay
Roberts, Miller, Ferry, Rooney L.
Collins, De Vita
smirg kcab
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3:02pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Nicky Powell
Onwards and upwards
Oi Den!
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3:09pm Mon 11 Mar 13
the don69
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3:27pm Mon 11 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:Good call Grim!but Sir Alex is in a bad mood at the minute,he's not even shaking hands the moody ol Jock!best leave him to cool down!good call from Den too!give Wilma a go out wide and see how it goes!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need one loan signing to win us the league
Nicky Powell
Onwards and upwards
jam1
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3:34pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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mallorca
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4:02pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Well 3 new youngsters why not????????
Do reall seeing a 16 year old Trever Francis at the CG he was mustard as ws young Paul Rieout on his debut.
Get the feeling once all this Finance/Embargo thing is over with all will be well.
Still cannot figure out how POMPEY can do what they do.
Thanks again WIZ and if your over in Port de Soller in the summe make sure you let us know,we allways get a few of te guys over,last year our local did show the fl cup game of 69 was good night even thought the quality pic was mmmm thanks again
mallorca
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4:02pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Well 3 new youngsters why not????????
Do reall seeing a 16 year old Trever Francis at the CG he was mustard as ws young Paul Rieout on his debut.
Get the feeling once all this Finance/Embargo thing is over with all will be well.
Still cannot figure out how POMPEY can do what they do.
Thanks again WIZ and if your over in Port de Soller in the summe make sure you let us know,we allways get a few of te guys over,last year our local did show the fl cup game of 69 was good night even thought the quality pic was mmmm thanks again
mallorca
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4:02pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Well 3 new youngsters why not????????
Do reall seeing a 16 year old Trever Francis at the CG he was mustard as ws young Paul Rieout on his debut.
Get the feeling once all this Finance/Embargo thing is over with all will be well.
Still cannot figure out how POMPEY can do what they do.
Thanks again WIZ and if your over in Port de Soller in the summe make sure you let us know,we allways get a few of te guys over,last year our local did show the fl cup game of 69 was good night even thought the quality pic was mmmm thanks again
the wizard
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4:23pm Mon 11 Mar 13
http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
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at 4PM it seems that getting this embargo lifted asap is now of more importance than ever before.
RED-MERLIN
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5:00pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Pewsham Red
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5:32pm Mon 11 Mar 13
joeyboy wrote:Game against Yeovil moved to Tuesday for Sky.
Why are we not playing on Saturday 16th March ?.
Pewsham Red
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5:32pm Mon 11 Mar 13
joeyboy wrote:Game against Yeovil moved to Tuesday for Sky.
Why are we not playing on Saturday 16th March ?.
Pewsham Red
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5:37pm Mon 11 Mar 13
RED-MERLIN wrote:Unless you stick Devera at right back. Looked a bit slow on Saturday but maybe needs a game or two.
Looks like macca will have to play right back at brentford. Now we have a problem will our midfield
smirg kcab
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5:39pm Mon 11 Mar 13
the don69 wrote:Don't call him wilma as kmac likes youngsters he might sign pebbles and bam bam
smirg kcab wrote:Good call Grim!but Sir Alex is in a bad mood at the minute,he's not even shaking hands the moody ol Jock!best leave him to cool down!good call from Den too!give Wilma a go out wide and see how it goes!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need one loan signing to win us the league
Nicky Powell
Onwards and upwards
Onwards and upwards
Powell for me
the wizard
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5:44pm Mon 11 Mar 13
old town robin
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5:51pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred
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5:52pm Mon 11 Mar 13
One or two injuries and we are in the S.H.1 .T!
So near yet so far will be the conclusion ...pay shews £20k or whatever owed now or it may cost us a whole load more money than that by loosing out on promotion!
Time is paramount...a good result at Brentford is imperative.
Not being negative here..just facing the truth!! COYR
Med Red
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6:07pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred
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6:11pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Di kanny oh
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6:13pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred wrote:Shrews were paid last week according to Jed. Agree with others Devera did cost us the game with shocking defending in the last few minutes. How on earth he was wrong side of their winger near the end and yards away at that is just baffling but did cost us 3 points.
Getting embargo lifted is of prime importance if we are to be serious contenders for auto promotion.
One or two injuries and we are in the S.H.1 .T!
So near yet so far will be the conclusion ...pay shews £20k or whatever owed now or it may cost us a whole load more money than that by loosing out on promotion!
Time is paramount...a good result at Brentford is imperative.
Not being negative here..just facing the truth!! COYR
Oi Den!
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6:16pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred wrote:I'm still puzzled as to why there is an embargo in place.
Getting embargo lifted is of prime importance if we are to be serious contenders for auto promotion.
One or two injuries and we are in the S.H.1 .T!
So near yet so far will be the conclusion ...pay shews £20k or whatever owed now or it may cost us a whole load more money than that by loosing out on promotion!
Time is paramount...a good result at Brentford is imperative.
Not being negative here..just facing the truth!! COYR
"We had an agreement with the Football League that we would bring in certain trenches of money in order for the embargo to be lifted. That’s in progress."
If it's in progress and the "trenches" (tranches?) are being introduced as and when instructed by the League, why is there an embargo? I don't remember any embargo when the previous owners took over - and the club was millions in debt then, a problem not facing us now.
Is that you Lovesey
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6:23pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred
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6:24pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Come on JED more urgency required PLEASE!!!!
umpcah
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6:24pm Mon 11 Mar 13
mallorca wrote:MALLORCA : I remember the 16 yr.old Trevor Francis at the CG too ! Absolute dynamite wasn`t he ? We all spot an above-average player from time to time but he really stood out ! I can think of several stand-out players over the years but not in recent seasons - not even Charlie Austin !
Hi WIZ,thanks fo info,have een bit down qith bad virues and with the diebrtic thing and angina has been bit iffy.
Well 3 new youngsters why not????????
Do reall seeing a 16 year old Trever Francis at the CG he was mustard as ws young Paul Rieout on his debut.
Get the feeling once all this Finance/Embargo thing is over with all will be well.
Still cannot figure out how POMPEY can do what they do.
Thanks again WIZ and if your over in Port de Soller in the summe make sure you let us know,we allways get a few of te guys over,last year our local did show the fl cup game of 69 was good night even thought the quality pic was mmmm thanks again
old town robin
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6:25pm Mon 11 Mar 13
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
umpcah
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6:30pm Mon 11 Mar 13
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
old town robin
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6:38pm Mon 11 Mar 13
umpcah wrote:I bet the Reading players are sh*tting themselves with thoughts of PdC arriving. If they do go down and we go up, can look forward to a nice derby, then again if we don't go up we will have Brizzie City to look forward to.
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
Old-Stager, Hilperton
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6:40pm Mon 11 Mar 13
glasred wrote:He would probably succeed in pushing Reading into bankruptcy at the same time !
PDC second favourite to take vacant Reading job and keep then up..how ironic would that be...and I think given the job he would probably succeed in keeping them up.!!!!!!!!!!!!
newburymike
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6:41pm Mon 11 Mar 13
umpcah wrote:8/11 with paddy power, not good for us Newbury STFC supporters if he does well there!!!
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
London Red
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6:49pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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SM said naturally they didn't just have that in their current accounts so it has taken a few days to get the funds together
.
He said the final instalment should be going in today and once that happens the FL will lift the embargo
.
As I said on Sat it shows our board do have a pot to p1ss in as they have raised £1.2m in a week
.
As for the injuries shouldn't make too much of an impact short term - ie tomorrow - but shows we need extra bodies in to prevent another crisis derailing us
.
Most have been calling for Miller to be dropped so now he effectively has been
.
RDV or L Rooney as straight swap with Ferry going central - or RDV or A Rooney up top with Collins with Williams out wide as another option
.
Devera straight in at RB where he has played lots his year
.
Tad harsh blaming him for the goal - should we ignore the ball being given away far too cheaply seconds before to give them procession? Had we kept it they couldn't have played it down the wing in the first place - that was the real error
.
Options on the bench would still be OK with RDV, A Rooney, L Rooney, Navarro and Thompson providing cover and options (bar the one starting obviously)
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Macca will provide cover for the back 4 with Navarro going into midfield if need be
.
Though the Spanish lad sound like a real prospect so if we could get hi in that would be fantastic
the wizard
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7:23pm Mon 11 Mar 13
umpcah wrote:Yeh-yeh-yeh and he was odds on to come back here as well. The sacking of BM was a bad move by Reading IMO but the appointment of PDC would double underline to their fans the short sighted knowledge they have of the game in the bigger scheme of things.
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
Anyway he has baggage here to sort out first.
Either way, many here now would say they are welcome to him knowing what we do now.
NewburyRobin
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7:34pm Mon 11 Mar 13
newburymike wrote:Indeed, especially for those that work in Reading like my son. Although over the years Reading have not been renowned for throwing their money around. Having said that I know one or two people high up at Reading & they are big heads & show off's so PDC would be right up their street.
umpcah wrote:8/11 with paddy power, not good for us Newbury STFC supporters if he does well there!!!
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
stigger
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7:45pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Oldhamred
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7:47pm Mon 11 Mar 13
To take on a relegation threatened side with a view to keeping their Premiership status with only 9 games remaining, would in my view be too big a job for Paolo.
He most definately would not want a relegation, whatever the circumstances on his CV.
I wish him well in whatever job he takes because for the most part he was good for our club.
I am sure given time he will be remembered fondly for the good times he gave us (providing the silly notion of suing us passes him by).
swindon1969
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7:50pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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35 year fan
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8:22pm Mon 11 Mar 13
London Red wrote:we're guessing here arent we but i would guess the FL wanted to see the £1.2m to check that the club could pay its debts and cover its monthly losses until after the end of the season, when contracts are up and players can be sold/released to cut the clubs outgoings to somewhere near its income.
Den for some reason the FL wanted £1.2m put in a ring fenced account to ensure the new board have the finances to keep us running - that is why the embargo is still in place
.
SM said naturally they didn't just have that in their current accounts so it has taken a few days to get the funds together
.
He said the final instalment should be going in today and once that happens the FL will lift the embargo
.
As I said on Sat it shows our board do have a pot to p1ss in as they have raised £1.2m in a week
.
As for the injuries shouldn't make too much of an impact short term - ie tomorrow - but shows we need extra bodies in to prevent another crisis derailing us
.
Most have been calling for Miller to be dropped so now he effectively has been
.
RDV or L Rooney as straight swap with Ferry going central - or RDV or A Rooney up top with Collins with Williams out wide as another option
.
Devera straight in at RB where he has played lots his year
.
Tad harsh blaming him for the goal - should we ignore the ball being given away far too cheaply seconds before to give them procession? Had we kept it they couldn't have played it down the wing in the first place - that was the real error
.
Options on the bench would still be OK with RDV, A Rooney, L Rooney, Navarro and Thompson providing cover and options (bar the one starting obviously)
.
Macca will provide cover for the back 4 with Navarro going into midfield if need be
.
Though the Spanish lad sound like a real prospect so if we could get hi in that would be fantastic
mancrobin
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8:36pm Mon 11 Mar 13
swindon1969 wrote:Bring it on!!
I for sure feel sorry for the Reading players, fit they are not, YET, For me thats a problem,IF we go up AND they come down, its gonna be a tasty match thats for sure, can kmac deal with him running riot down the technical area, and the hostilaty that would create, wow cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
The Jockster
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9:16pm Mon 11 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:Well you certainly would eh Wiz? I' m sorry old chap but IMO your pretence of saying "you didn't want PdC to go" was just that a pretence. Since his departure you've not missed an opportunity to have a dig at him one way or the other and again IMO you were sniping before he went as well.
umpcah wrote:Yeh-yeh-yeh and he was odds on to come back here as well. The sacking of BM was a bad move by Reading IMO but the appointment of PDC would double underline to their fans the short sighted knowledge they have of the game in the bigger scheme of things.
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
Anyway he has baggage here to sort out first.
Either way, many here now would say they are welcome to him knowing what we do now.
Granted he was no saint but by golly he put the pride and the passion back into this football club.
I will not pre-judge KM or "supermac" as you call him, when the guy has only been here 5mins and done sweet FA" but I will in 12 months time whether he's done good or bad and here's hoping its not the latter.
HOOKEY
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9:17pm Mon 11 Mar 13
London Red
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9:18pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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The FL obviously want all football related expenses covered up front
Oi Den!
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9:35pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Our new owners have said that the manager will have a similar annual playing budget to the one afforded to PDC, i.e. £4.5m. I find it a bit hard to reconcile that with the takeover having been completed weeks ago and the transfer embargo still not lifted because the financial criteria have not been met. So the owners "don't have £1.2m in their current accounts". That's understandable - but how long does it take to effect the electronic transfers, even if it involves selling some investments first? I don't see why it should be taking so long. As others have said, it's a matter of urgency that we try to strengthen the squad. We were led to believe - and the new owners did not correct it until they had to - that the takeover would bring about the lifting of the embargo. We need it lifting now.
Maybe we are about to embark on an exciting new era, but I think it's a bit disappointing that we are still in a state of flux all these weeks after the new owners began the process of bidding for the club. I don't think it's a very inspiring start. Having said all that, I of course hope my unease will prove to be unfounded.
By the way 35 year fan, for a supporter of another club you post some good stuff on here!
DarrenSTFCRomain
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9:38pm Mon 11 Mar 13
HOOKEY wrote:Did they...
Why is everyone slagging di canio off 3weeks ago everyone wanted him back saying he was the best manager we have had
I liked pdc don't get me wrong but he left STFC in the lurch so for that i don't care if he rots in what ever club he roles in2...
igiwigi
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9:41pm Mon 11 Mar 13
He played a blinder at Coventry and Is class
the wizard
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9:53pm Mon 11 Mar 13
The Jockster wrote:No Jock, he wasn't a saint and yes he did put pride back into the club, but at the cost of us almost going out of business. Is that the price you were prepared to pay, the club becoming extinct, seems a dire sort of support. I would have happily supported the club in League Two for as many seasons it took to get out, as long as I had a club to support.
the wizard wrote:Well you certainly would eh Wiz? I' m sorry old chap but IMO your pretence of saying "you didn't want PdC to go" was just that a pretence. Since his departure you've not missed an opportunity to have a dig at him one way or the other and again IMO you were sniping before he went as well.
umpcah wrote:Yeh-yeh-yeh and he was odds on to come back here as well. The sacking of BM was a bad move by Reading IMO but the appointment of PDC would double underline to their fans the short sighted knowledge they have of the game in the bigger scheme of things.
old town robin wrote:Di Canio is the current 4-1 favourite to take over.
old town robin wrote:The Italian is odds on favourite to take over after being seen in the crowd saturday watching the game
Bit of a shock Brian McDermott getting axed by Reading, with limited resources same as with Atkins thought they are both good managers. Oh well doubt he'll be out of work for long.
Anyway he has baggage here to sort out first.
Either way, many here now would say they are welcome to him knowing what we do now.
Granted he was no saint but by golly he put the pride and the passion back into this football club.
I will not pre-judge KM or "supermac" as you call him, when the guy has only been here 5mins and done sweet FA" but I will in 12 months time whether he's done good or bad and here's hoping its not the latter.
Ruling by fear, players afraid to make a move in case it was the wrong one. No, I didn't agree with the booze culture, but nor did I agree with the sale of Greer either. I'm not totally convinced by Mac or SuperMac or Kevin, and I refused to judge the players this weekend, not will I judge him. I think he has done well in the short time he has been here, yes he needs time. One thing is for sure both Jed and Murrell will not stand for either the booze culture or the totalitarian fear factor.
PDC sowed his own seeds of self destruction and as soon as he could see stronger minded people on the horizon who would not stand for his nonsense he threw in the towel, and showed himself as a quitter, which perhaps is not his only side but the one he will be remembered for. There are many other managers who are doing better on a massively smaller budget, we saw one this Saturday, its taken him several seasons to build that side, but they showed us a thing or two, not pretty but they stole a point and made one at the same time. I hope the embargo is lifted asap and we can move on, but my comments on PDC are no more damaging than your constant slagging of our team members, perhaps before you dig at others you should do some self assessment on yourself, you may think your comments are justified, others don't, so why judge others when you are probably worse, undermining players confidence and ability, not the way to go.
HOOKEY
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9:55pm Mon 11 Mar 13
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:I know what you mean but it dont make him a bad manager
HOOKEY wrote:Did they...
Why is everyone slagging di canio off 3weeks ago everyone wanted him back saying he was the best manager we have had
I liked pdc don't get me wrong but he left STFC in the lurch so for that i don't care if he rots in what ever club he roles in2...
DarrenSTFCRomain
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10:01pm Mon 11 Mar 13
HOOKEY wrote:Did i say that he was a bad manager??...
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:I know what you mean but it dont make him a bad managerHOOKEY wrote: Why is everyone slagging di canio off 3weeks ago everyone wanted him back saying he was the best manager we have hadDid they... I liked pdc don't get me wrong but he left STFC in the lurch so for that i don't care if he rots in what ever club he roles in2...
Well if he is the next reading manager so sky sports are saying lets see how good he is...
One thing he cant do is spend any of there money
Bassett Hound
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10:04pm Mon 11 Mar 13
igiwigi wrote:Perhaps he does not rate him.PDC didn't,the 2 clubs he went on loan to didn't. He must be very poor in training. Just add him to the list of signings we payed good money for that have not been good enough. I hope he proves me wrong.
Why the hell Is mcdonald not playing LUKE ROONEY!!!???
He played a blinder at Coventry and Is class
Robinonfire
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10:16pm Mon 11 Mar 13
6 Hours
6 Days
6 Weeks
Tick Tock
London Red
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10:23pm Mon 11 Mar 13
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When we were put under the last embargo and it lasted for 5-6 weeks through which we had a far worse injury crisis than now - you were saying we could simply expect Black to raise money to lift us out and even if he did he couldn't simply magic it up instantly - these things take time
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Yet now the new owners are taking too long - even though they have only owned the club for about 2 weeks!
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Lets not forget they had to raise money to actually buy the club - SM clearly said on top of the amounts spent in securing the deal they were asked to provide another £1.2m
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The FL would not have informed them of that at the start of the bidding process - which was only about 30 days ago (Jed basically said they entered the race late - only a few day before the 31st deadline)
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I have a fully flexible mortgage with a pre- agreed undrawn facility - yet if I called them tomorrow to ask to draw some down I would not have the cash until Friday if not Monday
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If it takes that long for pre agreed amounts to come through - I don't think a week, 10 days or max a fortnight is dragging their heals in finding over £1m!!!!!
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Not all investments are that liquid to settle overnight - I know as we have some at work which can take weeks if not months to settle!
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Electronic transfers only really work on current account to current account transfers - it still takes 4 day to pay your credit card within the same company!
The Jockster
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10:24pm Mon 11 Mar 13
the wizard
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10:35pm Mon 11 Mar 13
The Jockster
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10:42pm Mon 11 Mar 13
SAPFanSTFC
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10:44pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Bassett Hound wrote:1) He's only been in charge for 2 games to date
igiwigi wrote:Perhaps he does not rate him.PDC didn't,the 2 clubs he went on loan to didn't. He must be very poor in training. Just add him to the list of signings we payed good money for that have not been good enough. I hope he proves me wrong.
Why the hell Is mcdonald not playing LUKE ROONEY!!!???
He played a blinder at Coventry and Is class
and most importantly
2) Even the **** fans did warn that he had a lot of growing up to do and that his..'Potential' was often glimpsed but never actually 'realised'....maybe that is still true.
...
.......or maybe he is going to show his new found maturity and show everyone just how good and what a real team player he really is with great crosses, hard work in defence, selfless passes in the box and finally the glorious dribbling skills and finishing we all know he has.
The Jockster
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11:01pm Mon 11 Mar 13
At Cheltenham trying to pick winners so cant get to Griffin Park in time -looked at the travel logistics non starter so at least my fave strikers can sleep easy tonight eh Wiz lol!!
Di kanny oh
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11:03pm Mon 11 Mar 13
HOOKEY wrote:Everyone???? don't thinks so
Why is everyone slagging di canio off 3weeks ago everyone wanted him back saying he was the best manager we have had
The Jockster
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11:06pm Mon 11 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:Were they the Corleone family -surely we're not talking horses heads in the bed here...:)
Yes I did enjoy the celebration, of course I did, never ever denied it, however you have it set in your mind but I can re assure you my gripe with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture he indulged in. Now the true facts are coming out about his behaviour off pitch, and I have NEVER subscribed to bullying and never will. I also remind you of the Italian side of my family and the line is I can tell you, I HAVE seen it at close quarters and its not nice, and until you have seen it first hand you have absolutely no idea of the mental mind games that go on. I'm going to leave it there, sorry this is one you have lost, you do not know the full score of what some of these Barstwards are really like behind closed doors. Good night.
35 year fan
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11:18pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote::) when the advertiser stops coming up with new revelations every day i promise i'll stop reading it and butt out. this will make a good book for the reporter to write eventually.
35 year fan, I think you've probably called it about right.
Our new owners have said that the manager will have a similar annual playing budget to the one afforded to PDC, i.e. £4.5m. I find it a bit hard to reconcile that with the takeover having been completed weeks ago and the transfer embargo still not lifted because the financial criteria have not been met. So the owners "don't have £1.2m in their current accounts". That's understandable - but how long does it take to effect the electronic transfers, even if it involves selling some investments first? I don't see why it should be taking so long. As others have said, it's a matter of urgency that we try to strengthen the squad. We were led to believe - and the new owners did not correct it until they had to - that the takeover would bring about the lifting of the embargo. We need it lifting now.
Maybe we are about to embark on an exciting new era, but I think it's a bit disappointing that we are still in a state of flux all these weeks after the new owners began the process of bidding for the club. I don't think it's a very inspiring start. Having said all that, I of course hope my unease will prove to be unfounded.
By the way 35 year fan, for a supporter of another club you post some good stuff on here!
couple more thoughts. didnt black say the club was for sale for £1? so basically this £1.2m required by the league just could be the only financial requirement so far for new owners. and have they actually said they are putting it in themselves? am sure they would prefer to have stfc itself borrow it from the bank.
but this is all guessing and maybe they will explain a bit more shortly.
Oi Den!
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8:41am Tue 12 Mar 13
I don't recall saying that Black would not be able to provide funds immediately to lift the embargo caused by breaching the expenditure cap - but if I did I am happy to stand corrected. I certainly believed that he should not have been put under any pressure to do so, given that he had already provided a substantial budget for the season, most of which had already been used.
The club can have very little market value, as there are no substantial assets. And Black indicated that he was not looking to receive any significant sum of money for it, so how much have the new owners actually put in to the club?
You said that the final tranche of the £1.2m was about to be put in to the club yesterday and the embargo would be lifted. Now we are told that the embargo is expected to be lifted "this week".
Sorry, but it still doesn't feel right to me. The new owners could settle everyone's nerves by telling us exactly what is going on - how much has been paid, how much is still to be paid and when it will be paid.
Swindon1984
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11:57am Tue 12 Mar 13
swindon1969 wrote:It'll be tasty regardless given how long it's been since we played eachother. Sacking McDermott really makes me think they've lost the plot and have started believing their own bull****. They were doing well on a modest budget, developing a young side and there wasn't much to dislike about them. They've always been a medium sized club, have had a bit of success over the past few years with Madejski's money, and now the Russian's come in they're looking for more. Can't blame them I suppose but I'll have a bit of shameful joy when they get relegated that's for sure. If they weren't a derby side for us I'd probably be largely indifferent but never liked them and never will.
I for sure feel sorry for the Reading players, fit they are not, YET, For me thats a problem,IF we go up AND they come down, its gonna be a tasty match thats for sure, can kmac deal with him running riot down the technical area, and the hostilaty that would create, wow cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
In Reading's defence though at least they haven't done a QPR and ended up bottom of the league after spending tens of millions on players.
grove red says...
6:40am Mon 11 Mar 13