MATCHDAY LIVE: Swindon Town v Walsall (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

smirg kcab wrote:
My vision
Tah sidelined and miles storey out for season.
Get back with further update.
Forgot to mention kmac pleased how n.t reacted after slip u
Onwards a d upwards
Coymr

tony69er wrote:
I'm loving these straight forward answers on the Q and A forum.

tony69er wrote:
Where is everyone? The county ground is half empty.

vikingred wrote:
Listening on STFC Player and have to say that Alan Mcloughlin as co-commentator is doing my head in. Great player but please get rid of him..!!

Blazing Riff wrote:
Doncaster ahead at B'muff

Blazing Riff wrote:
C'mon Bournemouth....1 or 2 late goals will help us!

Blazing Riff wrote:

Blazing Riff wrote:
C'mon Bournemouth....1 or 2 late goals will help us!

By jove ...they have ... got 1 anyway!

alchafreds wrote:
best midfielder pushed out of position
no shape
no structure
no idea
oh and a manager that just stands there arms folded

London Red wrote:
While keeping an eye on 7th is important as top 6 gives us a shot at promotion our number 1 aim should be the title - if not that then automatic and then only if we miss out on that the POs
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This should be renamed the LEAGUE (no) ONE (wants to win)!
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We still have every chance as we have a game in hand and still to play Donny and Sheff - but playing like today will not do it
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Still early doors so will not be on KMs back - but next two weeks will tell us a lot about our promotion hopes and KM as a manager

Di kanny oh wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
best midfielder pushed out of position
no shape
no structure
no idea
oh and a manager that just stands there arms folded

Actually he did not stand there with his arms folded he was drinking water by the gallon it seemed and had his arms down behind his back rest of the time. As for your other comments he should be judged on more than just two games and 4 points ain't that bad so far is it?

London Red wrote:
Woeful is the only way to describe today!
.
We had no shape and it was like watching a kids team play!
.
Needs to decide on his midfield and get Rooney or RDV back out wide
.
Williams was dreadful - how did he stay on???? His goal was a deflected handball and after that did nothing - didn't win one header, didn't hold the bal up once and made no decent runs - when he did get clear he crossed (poorly) without looking - needs to be benched!
.
Collins huffed and puffed and put himself about - but was always getting pulled out wide so has no chances
.
We need two wide players whipping balls in to him and A Rooney to attack
.
Macca was brilliant and by far the MOTM - so think Miller should join Williams on the bench
.
Jekyll and Hyde at the moments - lets hope the other one from today (not sure which way round they are) turns up again on out travels!
.
Board seem very open and honest and glad the Q&A seems a success
.
Said there would be two sides so and it appears the board have done nothing wrong
.
Also they must have some money as they have had to stump up £1.2m into a new ring fenced account to get us out of the embargo - so nothing to do with unpaid bills!
.
Last instalment going in on Monday and we can then sign players and not a day too soon now
.
I was pro giving the lads a chance - but after today we need fresh ideas on the pitch - winger and forward and even a CM would go a miss in that order

Deancourt2013 wrote:
What a joke of a club
We're afc bournemouth we sign who we want

Chish and Fips wrote:

Deancourt2013 wrote:
What a joke of a club
We're afc bournemouth we sign who we want

Why come on here saying that about your club - better sign some more up - you're dropping a lot points and slipping out of contention.

London Red wrote:
Southside you completely missed the point
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I said it will tell us a lot about him - we will see how he adapts the team, what signings he makes, what tactical decisions he makes (ie subs) etc
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I never said I would judge him after 3 weeks - I give up sometimes!

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

Deancourt2013 wrote:
What a joke of a club
We're afc bournemouth we sign who we want

Why come on here saying that about your club - better sign some more up - you're dropping a lot points and slipping out of contention.

is this bloke for real lost 5 on the bounce

muppet

Deancourt2013 wrote:
What a joke of a club
We're afc bournemouth we sign who we want

Haydonender wrote:
Reasonable result against an in form team. Good that we at least tried to pass the ball about a bit, it was certainly a better performance than some of the others at home this year.

On a side note, I'm seriously thinking about moving my season ticket seat due to the negative idiots around me and could do with some advice. At the moment I'm in Don Rogers, about 3/4rs of the way along (nearer to stratton bank than town end) in the top half of the stand. They were moaning and groaning about any misplaced pass from about 2 minutes in to a new managers first home game in charge. Nothing like giving them a chance! Unfortunately a fair few of them like to shout at our own players as if that is going to help them and I'm just sick of it. Don't really know if its the same in the rest of the ground, could anyone advise if there's a decent area where the fans don't abuse our own players? Cheers

smirg kcab wrote:

London Red wrote:
Woeful is the only way to describe today!
.
We had no shape and it was like watching a kids team play!
.
Needs to decide on his midfield and get Rooney or RDV back out wide
.
Williams was dreadful - how did he stay on???? His goal was a deflected handball and after that did nothing - didn't win one header, didn't hold the bal up once and made no decent runs - when he did get clear he crossed (poorly) without looking - needs to be benched!
.
Collins huffed and puffed and put himself about - but was always getting pulled out wide so has no chances
.
We need two wide players whipping balls in to him and A Rooney to attack
.
Macca was brilliant and by far the MOTM - so think Miller should join Williams on the bench
.
Jekyll and Hyde at the moments - lets hope the other one from today (not sure which way round they are) turns up again on out travels!
.
Board seem very open and honest and glad the Q&A seems a success
.
Said there would be two sides so and it appears the board have done nothing wrong
.
Also they must have some money as they have had to stump up £1.2m into a new ring fenced account to get us out of the embargo - so nothing to do with unpaid bills!
.
Last instalment going in on Monday and we can then sign players and not a day too soon now
.
I was pro giving the lads a chance - but after today we need fresh ideas on the pitch - winger and forward and even a CM would go a miss in that order

London forget stats I told you and everyone else Williams is utter shiit. 20 games ago
Sorry for being blunt .
Don't like the mr foldy arms syndrome with kmac also,
Miller can't pass to save his life.
We would never have dropped points under the old regime
2 shots two goals for them.
Set pieces very poor.
The new board are a bunch of con men with no ambition.
I'm sure kmac gave smith a big kiss after the game being best of friends.
Another dreadful game.
Get real swindle fans no ambition and that's why fans will never come back.
Onwards upwards to the abyss

Bassett Hound wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

London Red wrote:
Woeful is the only way to describe today!
.
We had no shape and it was like watching a kids team play!
.
Needs to decide on his midfield and get Rooney or RDV back out wide
.
Williams was dreadful - how did he stay on???? His goal was a deflected handball and after that did nothing - didn't win one header, didn't hold the bal up once and made no decent runs - when he did get clear he crossed (poorly) without looking - needs to be benched!
.
Collins huffed and puffed and put himself about - but was always getting pulled out wide so has no chances
.
We need two wide players whipping balls in to him and A Rooney to attack
.
Macca was brilliant and by far the MOTM - so think Miller should join Williams on the bench
.
Jekyll and Hyde at the moments - lets hope the other one from today (not sure which way round they are) turns up again on out travels!
.
Board seem very open and honest and glad the Q&A seems a success
.
Said there would be two sides so and it appears the board have done nothing wrong
.
Also they must have some money as they have had to stump up £1.2m into a new ring fenced account to get us out of the embargo - so nothing to do with unpaid bills!
.
Last instalment going in on Monday and we can then sign players and not a day too soon now
.
I was pro giving the lads a chance - but after today we need fresh ideas on the pitch - winger and forward and even a CM would go a miss in that order

London forget stats I told you and everyone else Williams is utter shiit. 20 games ago
Sorry for being blunt .
Don't like the mr foldy arms syndrome with kmac also,
Miller can't pass to save his life.
We would never have dropped points under the old regime
2 shots two goals for them.
Set pieces very poor.
The new board are a bunch of con men with no ambition.
I'm sure kmac gave smith a big kiss after the game being best of friends.
Another dreadful game.
Get real swindle fans no ambition and that's why fans will never come back.
Onwards upwards to the abyss

Give them a chance you idiot!

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

Wilesy wrote:
Macca man of the match by a mile, but a disjointed midfield didn't help our cause today. Fitting Ferry, Miller and Macca into the team is a conundrum, one needs dropping imo.

Ferry had a decent game in centre mid but was supposed to be playing wide right. He is no right winger, plus by drifting inside it left no outlet on the right and exposed Nathan then Devera a lot. Reminiscent of Caddis in the Hart era, except Nathan doesn't bomb forward as much.

Not sure what Adam Rooney has to do to get a game. Should be him up front and pacy Williams on the wing. Collins and Williams have occasional good games, but don't combine well that's for sure.

At this stage no idea whatsoever who will win the league, no-one seems to want to. Our decent away form might just see us over the line....

Still it could be worse, we could have spent £500k on a right winger and played him at left back, and lost 5 on the bounce?

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Disappointing, but we could well have lost this one as well.

Conditions didn't help, but the lads should have been sharper and quicker than they were. Walsall aren't a bad side and seemed up for it more than us.

10 to go, not too sure we'll go up (hope we do, but I think we're starting to run on empty) but the main thing is we still have a club and next season we can plan for a promotion push.

The damage was done before Kevin took over - give him time to prove himself.

Deancourt2013 wrote:
You can't even pay your employers shambles

Deancourt2013 wrote:
You can't even pay your employers shambles

Stratton Red wrote:
It's really not that difficult.
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Macca needs to go back to playing CH.
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Ferry needs to play centre mid.
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We need a decent right winger.
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We need a decent centre forward, both were woeful today.
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We need a decent left back.
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Very poor today.

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

London Red wrote:
Woeful is the only way to describe today!
.
We had no shape and it was like watching a kids team play!
.
Needs to decide on his midfield and get Rooney or RDV back out wide
.
Williams was dreadful - how did he stay on???? His goal was a deflected handball and after that did nothing - didn't win one header, didn't hold the bal up once and made no decent runs - when he did get clear he crossed (poorly) without looking - needs to be benched!
.
Collins huffed and puffed and put himself about - but was always getting pulled out wide so has no chances
.
We need two wide players whipping balls in to him and A Rooney to attack
.
Macca was brilliant and by far the MOTM - so think Miller should join Williams on the bench
.
Jekyll and Hyde at the moments - lets hope the other one from today (not sure which way round they are) turns up again on out travels!
.
Board seem very open and honest and glad the Q&A seems a success
.
Said there would be two sides so and it appears the board have done nothing wrong
.
Also they must have some money as they have had to stump up £1.2m into a new ring fenced account to get us out of the embargo - so nothing to do with unpaid bills!
.
Last instalment going in on Monday and we can then sign players and not a day too soon now
.
I was pro giving the lads a chance - but after today we need fresh ideas on the pitch - winger and forward and even a CM would go a miss in that order

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

jayden wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

spot on.

Oi Den! wrote:
I meant to add that it was good to see us trying to play the ball out from the back, instead of getting Foderingham to launch it towards the heads of wingers on the halfway line. Just a pity that we didn't have the energy and composure in midfield to make it work.

Steaming-in wrote:
Well, I thought we tried to play football but came up against a good counter- attacking side. We tried to play to feet a lot more than in recent months but it just didn't happen I the last 3rd.

It was actually a good game and a draw was a fair result.

I really don't understand some of the negative comments on here.

If we can keep trying to play like that it will be exciting and we'll stand a chance of doing something.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote: sometimes its not negative just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth? You can't handle the truth!! I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment. Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half. MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG. A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r. Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling. I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours. The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support. The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

jayden wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
I meant to add that it was good to see us trying to play the ball out from the back, instead of getting Foderingham to launch it towards the heads of wingers on the halfway line. Just a pity that we didn't have the energy and composure in midfield to make it work.

Agreed Den though a lot of it was"now where have i heard this" tippy tappy.The ref was bad today for both sides he didnt help the flow of the game but imo he got the pen right. my mom was A M.

Chish and Fips wrote:

Deancourt2013 wrote:
You can't even pay your employers shambles

????? Best ignore the idiot , not a scubbie-doo what he is on or means but hey it takes all sorts ...

Try the old trick of finding a dark corner somewhere, shut your eyes and chant to your self over and over. 'I must not keep posting and making an idiot of myself' ... go on there's hope for you yet, but its the balance..

alchafreds wrote:
best midfielder pushed out of position
no shape
no structure
no idea
oh and a manager that just stands there arms folded

Oi Den! wrote:

jayden wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
I meant to add that it was good to see us trying to play the ball out from the back, instead of getting Foderingham to launch it towards the heads of wingers on the halfway line. Just a pity that we didn't have the energy and composure in midfield to make it work.

Agreed Den though a lot of it was"now where have i heard this" tippy tappy.The ref was bad today for both sides he didnt help the flow of the game but imo he got the pen right. my mom was A M.

Yes jayden, some mystifying decisions from the ref. A bit of an off day for him I think. I thought all the bookings and the pen were right though and a draw was a fair reflection of the two teams' performances, so I think it would be a bit of a distraction to dwell on the ref's performance. Walsall looked more solid and sharper than us, which doesn't bode well for the run-in. In the absence of any new sinings, I think we need Ferry alongside McCormack as the engine room. It's interesting that those two seem to be the popular candidates for Man of the Match. They were amongst our best performers but didn't create anything for the strikers, so I think that shows what a poor all-round team performance it was.

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, I agree entirely about the manager. Some are effective by jumping up and down and gesticulating all the time. Some are effective by getting their message across before the game and at half time, and only communicating during the game when they have something to say - and MacDonald did plenty of communicating today anyway. A win and a draw is not a bad start, especially when the win came in his first game in charge - immediately following one of the worst Town performances I have ever seen. I'll take folded arms and quiet authority if it brings us 67% of the remaining points on offer.

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

the don69 wrote:
I think your all overlooking that Walsall are on the best run in the entire league!their last 12 games chaps,they have amassed 27 points!that's title winning form,if they keep going not only will they make the play-off's they could well win them,so a draw today was a fair result,we just need to play with more confidence at home,they seem much more edgy at home,than we do away,Wilma and Joan still concern me!maybe they should have a girls night out and let their hair down a bit!might relax them to play like men!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!

P*ssed Off wrote:
Maybe the reason we are not playing well at home is the immense expectation that the players feel at having to perform magnificently every time they come out at the CG - or at least that seems to be the expectations of nearly everyone on here. When you go to away games the atmosphere is normally a lot better due to the proximity of the fans and the fact that we don't get on the players back every couple of minutes. Last week at Coventry was a prime example - get behind the team, create a noise and they will respond. lets do that at the CG instead of waiting for the team to do it so we can back them. 400 odd Walsall supporters today and they provided for their team what we did at Coventry amongst other away games. Shame on some of you for even calling yourselves supporters!

jayden wrote:

the don69 wrote:
I think your all overlooking that Walsall are on the best run in the entire league!their last 12 games chaps,they have amassed 27 points!that's title winning form,if they keep going not only will they make the play-off's they could well win them,so a draw today was a fair result,we just need to play with more confidence at home,they seem much more edgy at home,than we do away,Wilma and Joan still concern me!maybe they should have a girls night out and let their hair down a bit!might relax them to play like men!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!

Bet they dont do "shots" on their night out .

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

Deancourt2013 wrote:
You can't even pay your employers shambles

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

Oxon-Red wrote:
Can't believe the posts on here. We have had moans for weeks about Hoof ball but when we try to play the ball from defence we get the same moans because we didn't win.

We tried to play the way many having been calling for but it will take time to be comfortable doing it, especially at home as the pressure is affecting the players.

No wonder our away form is better as they do not receive the flak they get at the CG as soon as they make a mistake. All these perfect people should look at themselves and remember how good they were week in week out on the football pitch.

Who cares how Kmac stood on the touch line why the F*** does it matter.

The reactions on here are why we are struggling at home. Thank god the majority of our remaining games are away.

We do need some players in to refresh the squad. Hollands must be close to recovering fitness, a possibilty ? We need someone capable of delivering a good ball into the box because at the moment we are not supplying Collins, put the ball in the box so he can attack it and you have a different striker (ask Pompey).

It is frustrating but sometimes I wonder if we are third from bottom not third from the top.

COYMR

the wizard wrote:

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

If that is how you feel then you are equally entitled to spend your Saturday afternoons elsewhere, nobody is forcing you to come to County Ground, or is your name PDC.

alchafreds wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

keep chatting youll convince yourself soon but there is a lot more people on here telling it how it is

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Walsall tore us to pieces when they broke - we just don't have that pace in the side and our defence gets pulled all over the place. Little composure from some of our more experienced players and the limitations we have were cruelly exposed - Miller needs resting and Jay Mc still plays like his brain is missing. We were second to the ball most of the afternoon and had no shape or tactical organisation. Midfield created little. The attack offered almost nothing. Collins is a poor target man and too slow and Williams is having an atrocious run. Roberts lacks pace - we are slow and predictable in too many areas. At least there were times when we tried to play it on the floor, so an improvement on the Bury match. Hardly a match to make you feel optimistic about the run in though.

joey butler wrote:
Finally, it is wake up time, which is long overdue for all of us.

We are NOT going up!

Our home form is and was previously absolutely RUBBISH! And in particular, it was already rubbish when PDC was here.

His final interview on SKY recently is simply beyond belief and PDC needs urgent help, hopefully in his own hospital in Italy. He is deluded.

The people who post on here hoping for a miracle need to go to church or somewhere similar, because, we are sure as hell not going up this year!!

RogerJ1969 wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Finally, it is wake up time, which is long overdue for all of us.

We are NOT going up!

Our home form is and was previously absolutely RUBBISH! And in particular, it was already rubbish when PDC was here.

His final interview on SKY recently is simply beyond belief and PDC needs urgent help, hopefully in his own hospital in Italy. He is deluded.

The people who post on here hoping for a miracle need to go to church or somewhere similar, because, we are sure as hell not going up this year!!

Joey, good post, you may be right or you may be wrong, my question is;
Of the promotion candidates this year who is seriously going to survive in the Championchip? Maybe a club the size of Sheff U if they get some cash. Other than that no-one including ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves STFC would need huge investment beyond the funds current owners.
Not negative just my own opinion.Also thought we tried really hard today but players are not used the the new regime as yet but SF is playing out of position and I firmly believe Willo is a wide man, need a fox in the box. .

Chish and Fips wrote:

RogerJ1969 wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Finally, it is wake up time, which is long overdue for all of us.

We are NOT going up!

Our home form is and was previously absolutely RUBBISH! And in particular, it was already rubbish when PDC was here.

His final interview on SKY recently is simply beyond belief and PDC needs urgent help, hopefully in his own hospital in Italy. He is deluded.

The people who post on here hoping for a miracle need to go to church or somewhere similar, because, we are sure as hell not going up this year!!

Joey, good post, you may be right or you may be wrong, my question is;
Of the promotion candidates this year who is seriously going to survive in the Championchip? Maybe a club the size of Sheff U if they get some cash. Other than that no-one including ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves STFC would need huge investment beyond the funds current owners.
Not negative just my own opinion.Also thought we tried really hard today but players are not used the the new regime as yet but SF is playing out of position and I firmly believe Willo is a wide man, need a fox in the box. .

Agree with you both on the promotion issue, too much too quickly under the present circumstances is my opinion. Okay if we did go up revenue would increase, but we have to consider ground improvements along with new player investments and possibly higher wages.

Deancourt2013 wrote:
You can't even pay your employers shambles

London Red wrote:
Wage cap also falls to 60% next year
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So to keep ours at £4m we would either need a revenue of £6.7m or based on our last accounts an equity injection of £1.75m
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Can't see either happening - so we would have to compete with potential powerhouse like Wolves on a significantly smaller wage bill - around £3m!
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That is why I do agree with PdC that we could look back on this season with regret as if we had pushed on in Jan we would be clear now and most certain to go up like we were last year

swwindon61uk wrote:

London Red wrote:
Wage cap also falls to 60% next year
.
So to keep ours at £4m we would either need a revenue of £6.7m or based on our last accounts an equity injection of £1.75m
.
Can't see either happening - so we would have to compete with potential powerhouse like Wolves on a significantly smaller wage bill - around £3m!
.
That is why I do agree with PdC that we could look back on this season with regret as if we had pushed on in Jan we would be clear now and most certain to go up like we were last year

Can not agree with your last paragraph London.yes we MIGHT have gone clear but there again we MIGHT NOT have done so also.
The current team with exception of a need of a killer striker is good enough to go up.
The football last week and at times yesterday was the best i have seen this season,that is not knocking PDC just stating a fact.

London Red wrote:
Wage cap also falls to 60% next year
.
So to keep ours at £4m we would either need a revenue of £6.7m or based on our last accounts an equity injection of £1.75m
.
Can't see either happening - so we would have to compete with potential powerhouse like Wolves on a significantly smaller wage bill - around £3m!
.
That is why I do agree with PdC that we could look back on this season with regret as if we had pushed on in Jan we would be clear now and most certain to go up like we were last year

London Red wrote:
Good enough to go up - Yes
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Why as this league (as I said before a ball was kicked) is p1ss poor - which is why not going up could be a missed opportunity - not seen one team who I think wow they are good
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Will it remain this poor? If Wolves come down etc we may be back to the Norwich, Leeds, Leicester, Saints days etc where they dominate
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Stay up - who knows!
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With no squad changes - I very much doubt it - but I don't think we need 15 new players to get 4th from bottom
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The trick is to identify the key areas and get them strengthened and build from there
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Season after aim for 5th bottom and so on until we are established
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We will certainly need a goal scorer - as we need to be putting away any chance we get - we won't be getting as many as we do this year!

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

old town robin wrote:

jayden wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

spot on.

Not sure where the Swindon AWAY fans come from, but it is certainly not from the town End, they were as quiet as church mouses today, not one chant for Kevin as our new manager, in my days when I was a town ender Sid the KId would have been a little more vocal in getting behind the team, WAKE UP YOU SO CALLED VOICE OF SWINDON AND GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM,

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

The Jockster wrote:

old town robin wrote:

jayden wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

spot on.

Not sure where the Swindon AWAY fans come from, but it is certainly not from the town End, they were as quiet as church mouses today, not one chant for Kevin as our new manager, in my days when I was a town ender Sid the KId would have been a little more vocal in getting behind the team, WAKE UP YOU SO CALLED VOICE OF SWINDON AND GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM,

OTR I think the issue is that at away games the away support is always grouped in one area - and Coventry was a perfect example. The home vocal support was scattered around 3/4of the Ricoh whereas Towns fans filled one end thus generating more noise.

The reverse happened yesterday at the CG with Walsall fans being penned in one area and traditionally when the Town put in an iffy performance there is not the rousing vocal support that is forthcoming when they are on the attack and looking like they will score every time they press forward which gets the fans going.

The Jockster wrote:

old town robin wrote:

jayden wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote:
sometimes its not negative
just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things

its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth?

You can't handle the truth!!

I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment.

Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half.

MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG.

A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r.

Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling.

I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours.

The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support.

The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

spot on.

Not sure where the Swindon AWAY fans come from, but it is certainly not from the town End, they were as quiet as church mouses today, not one chant for Kevin as our new manager, in my days when I was a town ender Sid the KId would have been a little more vocal in getting behind the team, WAKE UP YOU SO CALLED VOICE OF SWINDON AND GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM,

OTR I think the issue is that at away games the away support is always grouped in one area - and Coventry was a perfect example. The home vocal support was scattered around 3/4of the Ricoh whereas Towns fans filled one end thus generating more noise.

The reverse happened yesterday at the CG with Walsall fans being penned in one area and traditionally when the Town put in an iffy performance there is not the rousing vocal support that is forthcoming when they are on the attack and looking like they will score every time they press forward which gets the fans going.

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
Walsall tore us to pieces when they broke - we just don't have that pace in the side and our defence gets pulled all over the place. Little composure from some of our more experienced players and the limitations we have were cruelly exposed - Miller needs resting and Jay Mc still plays like his brain is missing. We were second to the ball most of the afternoon and had no shape or tactical organisation. Midfield created little. The attack offered almost nothing. Collins is a poor target man and too slow and Williams is having an atrocious run. Roberts lacks pace - we are slow and predictable in too many areas. At least there were times when we tried to play it on the floor, so an improvement on the Bury match. Hardly a match to make you feel optimistic about the run in though.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Sorry about the below but had a lot of time on my hands this morning - kiddies with Mummy on mother's day treat.
....
Mini-League matches remaining:
(although as we know it is normally the relegation battlers which turn the tide)
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Doncaster: Must NOT drop points in their next 2 home games as it gets tougher after that:
1st Apr (H) Swindon
6th Apr (H) Tranmere
27th Apr (A) Brentford
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Sheff Utd: I still can't see them lasting the place for an auto slot but they may yet surprise us - next 2 away:
23rd Mar (H) Brentford
29th Mar (A) Tranmere
13th Apr (H) Swindon
(They also have Walsall away)
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Swindon: Never make it easy and we did sign up for a roller coaster ride!!
12th Mar (A) Brentford
19th Mar (A) Yeovil
1st Apr (A) Doncaster
13th April (A) Sheff Utd)
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Tranmere: Don't think we've see the last of them yet!...Walsall away Tues is not easy:
29th Mar (H) Tranmere
6th Apr (A) Doncaster
27th Apr (H) Bournemouth
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Yeovil: They've got the fewest (well only us) top 6 teams to play but do play a lot of relegation battlers - if any of the Top 6 were set up to see off relegation type teams then Yeovil's squad are they:
19th Mar (H) Swindon
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Brentford: Tuesday is a must win for them as they're starting to struggle and were awful at Stevenage last Tues:
12th Mar (H) Swindon
23rd Mar (A) Sheff Utd
27th Apr (H) Doncaster
......
After that they're relying all of those above dropping a lot of points and looking at 5th or 6th at best - only Walsall look like putting in that late run and are already my favourites for the play-offs if Yeovil don't make them.

Pewsham Red wrote:

harley red wrote:
what a load of s%%t i hope all the dicanio knockers are happy now that we have a crap manager with no passion,and thinks a draw is a good result,and he did not know were to play his players,no chance of promotion and all the board want to do is put music at the SN1 what a lod of tos%%%s.down down deeper and down as the song goes.

4 points from 2 games isn't a bad start and let's not forget that under di Canio we had our fair share of poor home performances his season, so not sure why you are getting so uppity.

He is working with a pretty threadbare squad and under a transfer embargo, whereas other teams around us are able to bolster their teams.

I was a big fan of di Canio and didn't want him to go, but we have got to give the new guy a chance and so far he has done pretty well under the circumstances, so lets get a bit of perspective.

We are PANTS wrote:
God, there are some real t##ts on this forum!! Moan, moan, moan...

Those of you that continuosly slate the players shold just do one!!! Insinuating that the forwards are girls is pathetic!! I I bet if they wern't in the limelight they would love to meet you face to face...
You are not helping the team whatsover and should be ashamed of yourselves.. We don't know if the players read this so should assume that they do so..

As for the game, I for one thought Warsaw were a very good team and that a draw was a fair result...

The good news is that Tranmere, Sheffield United and Yeovil are all yet still to play them.. Points will defo be dropped against the poles...

We are PANTS wrote:
God, there are some real t##ts on this forum!! Moan, moan, moan...

Those of you that continuosly slate the players shold just do one!!! Insinuating that the forwards are girls is pathetic!! I I bet if they wern't in the limelight they would love to meet you face to face...
You are not helping the team whatsover and should be ashamed of yourselves.. We don't know if the players read this so should assume that they do so..

As for the game, I for one thought Warsaw were a very good team and that a draw was a fair result...

The good news is that Tranmere, Sheffield United and Yeovil are all yet still to play them.. Points will defo be dropped against the poles...

jayden wrote:
Warsaw is what the sky football programe call them.The one with Hells bells.

Swindon1984 wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

old town robin wrote:

jayden wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote: sometimes its not negative just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth? You can't handle the truth!! I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment. Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half. MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG. A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r. Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling. I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours. The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support. The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

spot on.

Not sure where the Swindon AWAY fans come from, but it is certainly not from the town End, they were as quiet as church mouses today, not one chant for Kevin as our new manager, in my days when I was a town ender Sid the KId would have been a little more vocal in getting behind the team, WAKE UP YOU SO CALLED VOICE OF SWINDON AND GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM,

OTR I think the issue is that at away games the away support is always grouped in one area - and Coventry was a perfect example. The home vocal support was scattered around 3/4of the Ricoh whereas Towns fans filled one end thus generating more noise. The reverse happened yesterday at the CG with Walsall fans being penned in one area and traditionally when the Town put in an iffy performance there is not the rousing vocal support that is forthcoming when they are on the attack and looking like they will score every time they press forward which gets the fans going.

Jockster, I was in the DR and definitely heard Kevin Mac's name being sung from the town end on a couple of occasions, although maybe they weren't as vocal as they have been. DR was fairly quiet as usual, hard to get any chanting going there. On a side note, would like to say a big thanks to the stupid cow sat next to me who slagged of Williams from start to finish, even after his goal. Nothing like coming to watch your team only to bash your own players. Sickening. Result was disappointing today but not a totally abysmal performance, just a bit frustrating at times. McCormack was fantastic at charging forwards and defending, a few too many poor passes though, but his commitment was a joy to watch. My MOTM today. Haven't lost any ground so Brentford will be a big chance to move into second. COYR.

The Jockster wrote:

We are PANTS wrote:
God, there are some real t##ts on this forum!! Moan, moan, moan...

Those of you that continuosly slate the players shold just do one!!! Insinuating that the forwards are girls is pathetic!! I I bet if they wern't in the limelight they would love to meet you face to face...
You are not helping the team whatsover and should be ashamed of yourselves.. We don't know if the players read this so should assume that they do so..

As for the game, I for one thought Warsaw were a very good team and that a draw was a fair result...

The good news is that Tranmere, Sheffield United and Yeovil are all yet still to play them.. Points will defo be dropped against the poles...

Pants lighten up for goodness sake ..its called banter and Wilma & Joan have been playing like a couple of girls blouses lately so must expect some stick

As it was me who coined these nicknames I take full responsibility for your over the top wrath and anger but do I feel ashamed -not a snowballs chnce in hell! When you are in the public eye you are there to be shot at..

Didn't realise we were playing a Polish side yesterday but agree that against Walsall a draw was a fair result.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

We are PANTS wrote:
God, there are some real t##ts on this forum!! Moan, moan, moan...

Those of you that continuosly slate the players shold just do one!!! Insinuating that the forwards are girls is pathetic!! I I bet if they wern't in the limelight they would love to meet you face to face...
You are not helping the team whatsover and should be ashamed of yourselves.. We don't know if the players read this so should assume that they do so..

As for the game, I for one thought Warsaw were a very good team and that a draw was a fair result...

The good news is that Tranmere, Sheffield United and Yeovil are all yet still to play them.. Points will defo be dropped against the poles...

Got to agree Pants,i made a similar post just a few days ago.

Some of the players definitely read these pages.,

I could see a draw before we kicked off,so no surprises there,however some feel we have a divine right to win every game

I have been saying for a good few seasons now that as much as i love the COUNTY GROUND i prefer the atmosphere of away days so much more,which is a shame because the CG i used to get goosebumps walking into is not the same unless we are entertaining a so called big club,as i say great shame..

Oh by the way mate Warsaw? along way to go to see the away game.

Oi Den! wrote:
A lot of people have been calling for Williams to be given a try on the right wing. It has to be worth a go. I'd try it, with Luke Rooney on the left, the McCormack-Ferry pairing in the middle and any two of Adam Rooney, Collins and De Vita up front.

Another view wrote:
Just bringing Paolo's outcasts back into the fold could be sufficient to get us up. Luke Rooney is showing promise again, Benson is good with his first touch and at bringing others into the game, and he's not a bad poacher. Caddis could be good on the wing or right midfield. These would help by Kevin time while he assesses all the players at his disposal. If Hollands were fit enough to come back then he would surely help to push us over the finishing line.

London Red wrote:
Den - I guess you are right as ALL our rivals have been adding to their squads - with Sheff U (4 additions) and Bournemouth (7 additions) being by far the busiest
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Yet Bournemouth have gone backwards and Sheff have simply stumbled along
.
So granted spending does guarantee success
.
However - my point wasn't really about spending another £1m like Bournemouth did but more squad maintainance
.
Martin and Hollands were already here so it would be maintaining the current level of spending not increasing it
.
Agree with the line up suggested for Tuesday
.
That was the sort of thing I was saying about we will learn about KM over the next few weeks - will he adapt the team, will he have a plan B, will he be radical in subs rather than like for like as it was on Sat

swwindon61uk wrote:
Going back to the resignations,i find it strange that now apparently that 3 did not want to resign,wonder what changed there mind in a week?
Certainly leaves plenty for speculation,did they just change their mind in reflection?
Realise the grass is not greener on the other side.
FP says PDC goes we all go,that doe snot seem the case now does it,maybe they are not as loyal to PDC as FP?

London Red wrote:
Radical for me means change in system not just like for like
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Yesterday I don't think Rooney for Collins was right - should have been or Williams as he was woeful - and would have given us two targets in the middle
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Then I would have taken Miller off and had Ferry move central - with L Rooney going wide
.
Granted that is not overly radical but would have conpletely changed how we were playing - ie with no width at all
.
Not based on yesterday but other changes could see us go 433
.
Collins or Rooney in the middle an told stay central
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Then Williams and RDV wide - told to stay wide to provide outlets - but If it goes right the left one goes in central and vice versa (Either Rooney or Roberts could be alternatives for these roles)
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That sort of thing is what I meant - A plan B really - granted we may need a new player or two to change system easier in the medium term - but we can still do it in the game with what we have as suggested above
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So as I said yesterday the next few weeks will let us see more from KM if he has this in him - that was a bi criticism of PdC only one or twice did we ever see a plan B - it was normally if A isn't working I'll change someone to see if A works now - I felt yesterday was bit like that
.
Not having a go at KM as he's only been here a week - but would like to see different approaches being adopted in the future once he knows the squad better and has more of his own players in

RogerJ1969 wrote:

joey butler wrote: Finally, it is wake up time, which is long overdue for all of us. We are NOT going up! Our home form is and was previously absolutely RUBBISH! And in particular, it was already rubbish when PDC was here. His final interview on SKY recently is simply beyond belief and PDC needs urgent help, hopefully in his own hospital in Italy. He is deluded. The people who post on here hoping for a miracle need to go to church or somewhere similar, because, we are sure as hell not going up this year!!

Joey, good post, you may be right or you may be wrong, my question is; Of the promotion candidates this year who is seriously going to survive in the Championchip? Maybe a club the size of Sheff U if they get some cash. Other than that no-one including ourselves. Let's not kid ourselves STFC would need huge investment beyond the funds current owners. Not negative just my own opinion.Also thought we tried really hard today but players are not used the the new regime as yet but SF is playing out of position and I firmly believe Willo is a wide man, need a fox in the box. .

the wizard wrote:
An observation I have made is one similar to that made some years ago by Andrew Fitton, the County Ground is a quiet stadium. When we are playing away the supporters are clearly audible most the way through the game when listening on the radio. When we are at home there are long periods of obvious silence, even from the T/E. Times like yesterday the team needed us behind them but not on their backs.

That said not enough focus was put onto the very poor ref, a few overtures of "we only get" was about all it amount ed to when the guy deserved a whole raft of stick for putting up with the acting antics of feigning injury etc, from which they got their penalty, indeed his display was the most woeful on the park.
Westcarr and Brandy when they retire will have no problem finding acting jobs, however if they do get promoted they will be surely found out at the higher level.
Meanwhile back at Liddington SuperMac has his work cut out on several fronts, we didn't become a poor team in a week for sure, but that said home performances and tactics by both managers this season are in need of revision. Perhaps the supporters should also look inwardly and get more behind the team and the new manager, yes there are areas that need improvement as Wilson used to say, but SuperMac needs time, this is not a team made up of players he would necessarily pick or choose and we are at a level lower than that he is used to, so patience is key. If we don't go up this year, so what, at least we have owners now putting steps in place to ensure there is a club here next season to support.

Have a good Mothers Day, and if you still have her, treasure and love her, as you will miss her when she is gone.

London Red wrote:
Radical for me means change in system not just like for like
.
Yesterday I don't think Rooney for Collins was right - should have been or Williams as he was woeful - and would have given us two targets in the middle
.
Then I would have taken Miller off and had Ferry move central - with L Rooney going wide
.
Granted that is not overly radical but would have conpletely changed how we were playing - ie with no width at all
.
Not based on yesterday but other changes could see us go 433
.
Collins or Rooney in the middle an told stay central
.
Then Williams and RDV wide - told to stay wide to provide outlets - but If it goes right the left one goes in central and vice versa (Either Rooney or Roberts could be alternatives for these roles)
.
That sort of thing is what I meant - A plan B really - granted we may need a new player or two to change system easier in the medium term - but we can still do it in the game with what we have as suggested above
.
So as I said yesterday the next few weeks will let us see more from KM if he has this in him - that was a bi criticism of PdC only one or twice did we ever see a plan B - it was normally if A isn't working I'll change someone to see if A works now - I felt yesterday was bit like that
.
Not having a go at KM as he's only been here a week - but would like to see different approaches being adopted in the future once he knows the squad better and has more of his own players in

stigger wrote:
would like to see Macca and Ferry cm, with as others have said maybe giving Williams a stint on wing, i'm sure he would continue to beat players and create a lot, i think Miller is steady enough just does not have energy of Macca or ferry. A Rooney and Collins up front and still have options with likes of RDV and L Rooney. That said if nath is injured i would play Macca rb.

Oxon-Red wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote: sometimes its not negative just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth? You can't handle the truth!! I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment. Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half. MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG. A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r. Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling. I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours. The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support. The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

Absolutely spot on.

I reckon some posters are actually on the so called rollercoaster as they are so positive one week and absolutely the opposite the next.

COYMR

jayden wrote:

the wizard wrote:
An observation I have made is one similar to that made some years ago by Andrew Fitton, the County Ground is a quiet stadium. When we are playing away the supporters are clearly audible most the way through the game when listening on the radio. When we are at home there are long periods of obvious silence, even from the T/E. Times like yesterday the team needed us behind them but not on their backs.

That said not enough focus was put onto the very poor ref, a few overtures of "we only get" was about all it amount ed to when the guy deserved a whole raft of stick for putting up with the acting antics of feigning injury etc, from which they got their penalty, indeed his display was the most woeful on the park.
Westcarr and Brandy when they retire will have no problem finding acting jobs, however if they do get promoted they will be surely found out at the higher level.
Meanwhile back at Liddington SuperMac has his work cut out on several fronts, we didn't become a poor team in a week for sure, but that said home performances and tactics by both managers this season are in need of revision. Perhaps the supporters should also look inwardly and get more behind the team and the new manager, yes there are areas that need improvement as Wilson used to say, but SuperMac needs time, this is not a team made up of players he would necessarily pick or choose and we are at a level lower than that he is used to, so patience is key. If we don't go up this year, so what, at least we have owners now putting steps in place to ensure there is a club here next season to support.

Have a good Mothers Day, and if you still have her, treasure and love her, as you will miss her when she is gone.

Wiz the worst diver on the pitch was williams and he is no good at that either but he did con that ref quite a few times he realy needs to toughen up.

stigger wrote:
would like to see Macca and Ferry cm, with as others have said maybe giving Williams a stint on wing, i'm sure he would continue to beat players and create a lot, i think Miller is steady enough just does not have energy of Macca or ferry. A Rooney and Collins up front and still have options with likes of RDV and L Rooney. That said if nath is injured i would play Macca rb.

Di kanny oh wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:

alchafreds wrote: sometimes its not negative just the plain truth

and sometimes it better to give people a chance ... I'm sure all you do in life is not a 100% success... unless you are deluded.

negativity and truth are different things its just the truth hurts sometimes

The truth? You want to hear the truth? You can't handle the truth!! I enjoyed the game today - take nothing away from Walsall you could see why they are one of the in-form teams in the league at the moment. Two teams pressing each other (possibly why the ball was 'given' away at times) with the Town playing some decent stuff, from the back, being mainly camped in their half during the second half. MoM was Alan McCormack IMO but most of the lads tried hard. When Simon scored the second goal it was evident to me the team were asking for more support from the fans with their gestures to the stands - if only we had the away support at the CG. A good deep cross undone the defence at the death which was a bumm3r. Just look at the results of the other teams at the top of the league today most of which are unable to string any wins together so the pressure is telling. I just hope their fans are giving as much stick out to their players as some of our fans continue to do so to ours. The truth is IMO only there is too much negativity and moaning from the home stands in general with the occasional but not, unfortunately, prolonged chants and shouts of support. The players are only human and giving them more (HOME) support during the final few CG games this season might be the difference between automatic promotion or the play-offs (or another League One season).

Absolutely spot on.

I reckon some posters are actually on the so called rollercoaster as they are so positive one week and absolutely the opposite the next.

COYMR

Totally agree good post and that's how I see the game. Some on here seem to think Walsall were just going to lay down and let us play, well chimps they didn't and gave us one hell of a game and were an excellent team and possibly could have won it. They were one of the quickest breaking sides I have seen at the County Ground. Our football was excellent first 25 minutes be we are only being let down by some off form players which happens to all clubs. Just look at Bounemouth who are affected by injuries and Tranmere who were coasting along but have hit the rocky patch at home with injuries and off form players. I always feel it is actually harder at home as teams park the bus but our form away is fantastic so keep the faith. With all the turmoil we have had at the club the players deserve medals for hanging in there to be honest not slating every two minutes for a miss placed pass. We are still third from top after all that has happened this season off the pitch. Fickle fans not just here but up the A420 and Bounemuff to name a few. Give the new guy time to see what's what and I am sure he will act accordingly.

London Red wrote:
61 - I was referring to the 16-0 run time
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Had Black suddenly not pulled the plug but seen out the year and allowed us to sign up Martin and Hollands until the end of the year
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Or even let them go due to Martin's attitude and Hollands injury but got in Pack and BWP (wouldn't need Green as Ritchie wouldn't have been sold)
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Then I think a lot of the dropped points would not have happened - 3 from 12 at home for example
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Had that even been a pretty average 7 from 12 we'd be level - but a more realistic 10 from 12 as expected from a promotion side would see us clear now
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Granted it may not have happened we will never know - but the team looked unbelievable during that period - we are balanced, confident and had competition in key areas
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You may not agree but if we don't go up I will always look back and say we blew it by what happened then

The Jockster wrote:

jayden wrote:

the wizard wrote:
An observation I have made is one similar to that made some years ago by Andrew Fitton, the County Ground is a quiet stadium. When we are playing away the supporters are clearly audible most the way through the game when listening on the radio. When we are at home there are long periods of obvious silence, even from the T/E. Times like yesterday the team needed us behind them but not on their backs.

That said not enough focus was put onto the very poor ref, a few overtures of "we only get" was about all it amount ed to when the guy deserved a whole raft of stick for putting up with the acting antics of feigning injury etc, from which they got their penalty, indeed his display was the most woeful on the park.
Westcarr and Brandy when they retire will have no problem finding acting jobs, however if they do get promoted they will be surely found out at the higher level.
Meanwhile back at Liddington SuperMac has his work cut out on several fronts, we didn't become a poor team in a week for sure, but that said home performances and tactics by both managers this season are in need of revision. Perhaps the supporters should also look inwardly and get more behind the team and the new manager, yes there are areas that need improvement as Wilson used to say, but SuperMac needs time, this is not a team made up of players he would necessarily pick or choose and we are at a level lower than that he is used to, so patience is key. If we don't go up this year, so what, at least we have owners now putting steps in place to ensure there is a club here next season to support.

Have a good Mothers Day, and if you still have her, treasure and love her, as you will miss her when she is gone.

Wiz the worst diver on the pitch was williams and he is no good at that either but he did con that ref quite a few times he realy needs to toughen up.

Jayden do you think Wilma is auditioning for the next series of Spash! lol!

Oi Den! wrote:
Pewsham, although I agree with the general tenor of your post, I think you contradict yourself in the second para. The fact that we need a couple of players to be a top two side surely means that, without them, we are not as good as anything in this division. Being two players short can make the difference of several positions in the League table. I don't think we looked anything like a promotion side yesterday. Walsall may not have had as much of the ball as us but they had a verve about them that we were sadly lacking.

If we had made the big push in January, as suggested by LR, maybe we would be sitting pretty now. But I think that is oversimplifying things. If PDC had used more of his energy managing the considerable resources he did have at his disposal and a bit less of it taking countless opportunities to attack the owners, Black wouldn't have become disillusioned with it all. You can't keep holding a gun to somebody's head and expect him to hang around forever just accepting it.

the wizard wrote:
An observation I have made is one similar to that made some years ago by Andrew Fitton, the County Ground is a quiet stadium. When we are playing away the supporters are clearly audible most the way through the game when listening on the radio. When we are at home there are long periods of obvious silence, even from the T/E. Times like yesterday the team needed us behind them but not on their backs.

That said not enough focus was put onto the very poor ref, a few overtures of "we only get" was about all it amount ed to when the guy deserved a whole raft of stick for putting up with the acting antics of feigning injury etc, from which they got their penalty, indeed his display was the most woeful on the park.
Westcarr and Brandy when they retire will have no problem finding acting jobs, however if they do get promoted they will be surely found out at the higher level.
Meanwhile back at Liddington SuperMac has his work cut out on several fronts, we didn't become a poor team in a week for sure, but that said home performances and tactics by both managers this season are in need of revision. Perhaps the supporters should also look inwardly and get more behind the team and the new manager, yes there are areas that need improvement as Wilson used to say, but SuperMac needs time, this is not a team made up of players he would necessarily pick or choose and we are at a level lower than that he is used to, so patience is key. If we don't go up this year, so what, at least we have owners now putting steps in place to ensure there is a club here next season to support.

Have a good Mothers Day, and if you still have her, treasure and love her, as you will miss her when she is gone.