Trust STFC chief hails Watkins impact (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

LydiardRED67 wrote:
More importantly, does the adver treat his view as being the views of the fans.

I hope not.

Med Red wrote:
No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

Ardiles wrote:
What exactly are 'the views of the fans'? There are many thousands of fans, for a start - tens of thousands if you include casual/occasional supporters - and I very much doubt for one second that John Ward claims to represent every one of them.

What John Ward has done - unlike those taking pot shots from the side on here - is give up some of his time to head up a properly constituted, independent fans' body that seeks to scrutinise the club and hold those in charge to account. He is only mandated to do that on behalf of those fans who have signed up to the Trust - which I am sure everyone understands.

Really not sure what the early posters' beef is, to be honest. We should be glad that there are fans' representatives out there like John and like Nigel Bennett. The club would be a good deal poorer without them.

Med Red wrote:
No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

the don69 wrote:

Med Red wrote: No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

Jed said,it will be resolved this week,FL still going through the paper work,they don't know what the words,speedy,hurry or even fast means!LOL!!

Med Red wrote:
No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote: No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

There's been plenty of discussion and clarification. You just have to look in the right places ..........

Stilloyal wrote:

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

The trust was formed in the dark days of Donergan & Blatchley when the club REALLY didn't have a dime.
What the trust have done , especially in those early days was to pay for loan players and the training ground at Liddington which the club could not afford at that time.
The original aim was to buy the club to keep it from the clutches of the aformentioned pair who's intent was to bankrupt the club and build housing and commercial premises on the site. However not enough of the fan base were intrested in forking out a tenner to save the club.
They , D & B, almost succeeded due to their wanton and deliberate waste of money eg helicopter rides from London to the C.G instead of driving or taking cheaper forms of transport..
The Trust have quietly done a decent job , however it could do with more members , it's cheap to join and they do worthwhile work behind the scenes as do the official supporters club.

Stilloyal wrote:

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

The trust was formed in the dark days of Donergan & Blatchley when the club REALLY didn't have a dime.
What the trust have done , especially in those early days was to pay for loan players and the training ground at Liddington which the club could not afford at that time.
The original aim was to buy the club to keep it from the clutches of the aformentioned pair who's intent was to bankrupt the club and build housing and commercial premises on the site. However not enough of the fan base were intrested in forking out a tenner to save the club.
They , D & B, almost succeeded due to their wanton and deliberate waste of money eg helicopter rides from London to the C.G instead of driving or taking cheaper forms of transport..
The Trust have quietly done a decent job , however it could do with more members , it's cheap to join and they do worthwhile work behind the scenes as do the official supporters club.

The Jockster wrote:

Stilloyal wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

The trust was formed in the dark days of Donergan & Blatchley when the club REALLY didn't have a dime. What the trust have done , especially in those early days was to pay for loan players and the training ground at Liddington which the club could not afford at that time. The original aim was to buy the club to keep it from the clutches of the aformentioned pair who's intent was to bankrupt the club and build housing and commercial premises on the site. However not enough of the fan base were intrested in forking out a tenner to save the club. They , D & B, almost succeeded due to their wanton and deliberate waste of money eg helicopter rides from London to the C.G instead of driving or taking cheaper forms of transport.. The Trust have quietly done a decent job , however it could do with more members , it's cheap to join and they do worthwhile work behind the scenes as do the official supporters club.

Loyal thanks for the clarification I'm now a lot wiser and to quote Ardiles I don't have a beef - what I do now have thanks to Loyal are some answers to the questions I posed.

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else.
Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Anyway I posted late last night. Watkins is undoubtedly a fine man and a gentleman. But a huge loss? I'm afraid I don't think the club is marketed well at all and I definitely think the food and drink and service inside the ground leaves a lot to be desired and could be improved dramatically. These fell under NW remit and I hope the new board can bring improvements to the benefit of the club as a whole. I wish him well for the future. On the embargo I'm liking the fact that KM isn't in a rush anyway. Better for him to see the players in training and games and make his own mind up without fans telling him who to get in on loan!!

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Anyway I posted late last night. Watkins is undoubtedly a fine man and a gentleman. But a huge loss? I'm afraid I don't think the club is marketed well at all and I definitely think the food and drink and service inside the ground leaves a lot to be desired and could be improved dramatically. These fell under NW remit and I hope the new board can bring improvements to the benefit of the club as a whole. I wish him well for the future. On the embargo I'm liking the fact that KM isn't in a rush anyway. Better for him to see the players in training and games and make his own mind up without fans telling him who to get in on loan!!

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

I think Jockster had a valid point and thanks to the replies he has received a number of us have learned more about the trust.

Some rely on this site for information and many may not have known about the trust being set up due to living away from Swindon.

COYMR

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else.
Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

The Jockster wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

I wasn't criticising and said that I didn't was to do the guy any disservice which you would have seen if you read my post properly! I was merely asking pertinent questions to which I have now pertinent answers, unlike your unhelpful response!

ghanimah wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

I think Jockster had a valid point and thanks to the replies he has received a number of us have learned more about the trust. Some rely on this site for information and many may not have known about the trust being set up due to living away from Swindon. COYMR

He may have a valid question if he was unaware of what the Trust has achieved over the years, but he used his own lack of knowledge to essentially accuse John Ward of being self-important. I would suggest that probably isn't the best way of going about things.

MITTED wrote:

Stilloyal wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

The trust was formed in the dark days of Donergan & Blatchley when the club REALLY didn't have a dime. What the trust have done , especially in those early days was to pay for loan players and the training ground at Liddington which the club could not afford at that time. The original aim was to buy the club to keep it from the clutches of the aformentioned pair who's intent was to bankrupt the club and build housing and commercial premises on the site. However not enough of the fan base were intrested in forking out a tenner to save the club. They , D & B, almost succeeded due to their wanton and deliberate waste of money eg helicopter rides from London to the C.G instead of driving or taking cheaper forms of transport.. The Trust have quietly done a decent job , however it could do with more members , it's cheap to join and they do worthwhile work behind the scenes as do the official supporters club.

Who needs enemies when we have fellow supporters like Jockster? Rather than slag the Trust off and its chairman in particular, why don't you visit the Trust website and perhaps attend a meeting or two? I promise that you will be enlightened. And just for the record, the Trust was instrumental in helping to save the club, not just from D&B, but later from the Newbury mafia as well. Also, in conjuction with the Supporters Club, it has helped raise £000s for the Red Army Fund. COYR

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

I think Jockster had a valid point and thanks to the replies he has received a number of us have learned more about the trust. Some rely on this site for information and many may not have known about the trust being set up due to living away from Swindon. COYMR

He may have a valid question if he was unaware of what the Trust has achieved over the years, but he used his own lack of knowledge to essentially accuse John Ward of being self-important. I would suggest that probably isn't the best way of going about things.

Lack of knowledge is why you ask questions.

Until recently many Town fans, including me, were unaware of the Trust. It is only recently that it has been brought to the attention of people, which is a good thing.

I think Jockster raised three important questions.

1. Who is John Ward ?

2. What has the trust done ? i.e. what is its history etc.

3. And why are the Adver contacting John Ward ?

There have been so very good explanations that have answered these questions. Unlike yours which was basically, "don't you know, go and find out" which brings us back to the point of his post I believe.

COYMR

ghanimah wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

ghanimah wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Perhaps you should endeavor to find out before criticising. Your lack of knowledge is your fault and no-one else's.

I think Jockster had a valid point and thanks to the replies he has received a number of us have learned more about the trust. Some rely on this site for information and many may not have known about the trust being set up due to living away from Swindon. COYMR

He may have a valid question if he was unaware of what the Trust has achieved over the years, but he used his own lack of knowledge to essentially accuse John Ward of being self-important. I would suggest that probably isn't the best way of going about things.

Lack of knowledge is why you ask questions. Until recently many Town fans, including me, were unaware of the Trust. It is only recently that it has been brought to the attention of people, which is a good thing. I think Jockster raised three important questions. 1. Who is John Ward ? 2. What has the trust done ? i.e. what is its history etc. 3. And why are the Adver contacting John Ward ? There have been so very good explanations that have answered these questions. Unlike yours which was basically, "don't you know, go and find out" which brings us back to the point of his post I believe. COYMR

Lack of knowledge is a reason to ask questions I quite agree...but it's not a reason to then accuse others of self-importance.

Med Red wrote:

the don69 wrote:

Med Red wrote: No news regards the embargo, despite all the comments on this forum yesterday?? Most fans would like clarification on this matter and yet Mr Morsehead has chosen to ignore the issue, too busy cozying up to the new owners??

Jed said,it will be resolved this week,FL still going through the paper work,they don't know what the words,speedy,hurry or even fast means!LOL!!

Good, when/where did he say that? I hope it's true. Midfield concerns me, apart from Ferry, no creativity. Hopefully KM has someone lined up for when the embargo is lifted.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Don69 thank you or informing me of that. Our pitch is continually brilliant, unlike some of the other swamps and sand pits we've had to endure.

I'm extremely thankful Marcus and his team remain here because if i was running a bigger club I'd definitely be trying to nick him!

He'll win it in racing parlance going away.....

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else.
Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

JAFisGod wrote:
John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

Steve. Brentford wrote:
My canaries,goldfinches and mules were all tweeting well this morning,must be something in the air!

Steve. Brentford wrote:
My canaries,goldfinches and mules were all tweeting well this morning,must be something in the air!

The Jockster wrote:
I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

Stickshaker wrote:
I rename this site........ One flew over the Robin's nest!

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:
My canaries,goldfinches and mules were all tweeting well this morning,must be something in the air!

They wouldn't be if a sparrowhawk sat in the garden mate :).

Environmental Agency depositing 40 tonnes of gravel in the River for spawning grounds at present.
Nothing in the mink traps for months and the water levels dropping to a reasonable level. One more week to go and looks like I am not going to have any time for the river, however as soon as we have some Sun I am going to land some Tench.

.........I will look out for you Tuesday at Brentford and am on the terraces. Sponsoring the programme Saturday so better be on the best behaviour whilst prawn munching.

Tight Lines Stevo.

JAFisGod wrote:
John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

JAFisGod wrote:
John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

The Jockster wrote:

MITTED wrote:

Stilloyal wrote:

The Jockster wrote: I've often wondered why this chap Ward is given such credence by the Adver. By that I mean who is he? What exactly do the "Trust" actually do or have done? What's the difference between them and the Supporters club because from what I know which is precious little, Mr Ward comes across as someone whom is perhaps full of his own self-importance but not much else. Don't want to do the bloke any disservice but like I said what does he and the Trust actually do that benefits STFC as an entity?

The trust was formed in the dark days of Donergan & Blatchley when the club REALLY didn't have a dime. What the trust have done , especially in those early days was to pay for loan players and the training ground at Liddington which the club could not afford at that time. The original aim was to buy the club to keep it from the clutches of the aformentioned pair who's intent was to bankrupt the club and build housing and commercial premises on the site. However not enough of the fan base were intrested in forking out a tenner to save the club. They , D & B, almost succeeded due to their wanton and deliberate waste of money eg helicopter rides from London to the C.G instead of driving or taking cheaper forms of transport.. The Trust have quietly done a decent job , however it could do with more members , it's cheap to join and they do worthwhile work behind the scenes as do the official supporters club.

Who needs enemies when we have fellow supporters like Jockster? Rather than slag the Trust off and its chairman in particular, why don't you visit the Trust website and perhaps attend a meeting or two? I promise that you will be enlightened. And just for the record, the Trust was instrumental in helping to save the club, not just from D&B, but later from the Newbury mafia as well. Also, in conjuction with the Supporters Club, it has helped raise £000s for the Red Army Fund. COYR

Mitted my reply to ghanimah equals ditto to yourself. As with Loyal I'm indebted to you for additional information as to why the trust was set up and what it has achieved to date. And now that I know they have a website I'll take a look and I'll ignore your snide comment "who needs enemies etc" ... Because right now and as always clubs of the stature of Swindon need all the support they can get both from the extremely well informed about the Trust supporters like you and those like me of which I'm sure there are many who are not quite so up to speed with their activities and involvement. Cheers!

Stilloyal wrote:
When the Trust was formed there was plenty of publicity . They also had bucket collections outside the ground and in nearby pubs on matchdays, when they also issued leaflets asking people to join.
The trust office used to be the building next to SAS travel from where they sold their merchandise.I personally cleared the building of all the rubbish left behind by the football club. Now they meet in a corner in the Legends.
I was living in West London when I joined and I became the first life member. Saying you don't live in Swindon maybe isn't that much of an excuse not to join or why you havn't joined. Possibly if you've not heard of the Trust then maybe you havn't been a fan for that many years. (Not an accusation BTW just a thought )

I too would like to applaud Paul Davis and the other founders of the trust for their outstanding contribution , without which I have no doubt that we'd now be in the Conference or worse.

Oxon-Red wrote:

JAFisGod wrote: John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

Not knocking the work they have done and I suspect I am not alone in being educated this morning. However they should be shouting this from the rooftops and letting others know. When the Trust was identified on here recently, following Paolo's offer to fund players, I was keen to help. I went on the Trust website to find out more. The website tells you very little other than how to join. These acheivements should be on there under the History section replacing the "page to be updated soon..." and to be honest this put me off. The trust has been excellent from what you have said and ALL fans should be made aware of it. Donations could increase as a result, and with the instability of football clubs the funds could be very useful in the future. There have been moans about Jockster's post, which was worded badly to a certain degree but we have been treated as completely brain dead by some that know and, I suspect, are or have been involved with the Trust. COYMR

Afcb4life wrote:
Swinscum a joke of a club league 2 in few seasons you bunch of tossers

Steve. Brentford wrote:
A little message; Around here they put out signs, they being the local council i believe,the signs read Do not feed the pigeons or wildlife or as in the case of Afcb4life the vermin.Yep no food and they soon die off, facking hate rats.

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Last step wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Yes, just seen that but nothing reported here yet. Hopefully just an oversight which can be sorted asap.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Last step wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Yes, just seen that but nothing reported here yet. Hopefully just an oversight which can be sorted asap.

Lets hope so or that embargo is going to be harder to get lifted than many of us thought!

Afcb4life wrote:
Swinscum a joke of a club league 2 in few seasons you bunch of tossers

SummerOf1969 wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

JAFisGod wrote: John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

Not knocking the work they have done and I suspect I am not alone in being educated this morning. However they should be shouting this from the rooftops and letting others know. When the Trust was identified on here recently, following Paolo's offer to fund players, I was keen to help. I went on the Trust website to find out more. The website tells you very little other than how to join. These acheivements should be on there under the History section replacing the "page to be updated soon..." and to be honest this put me off. The trust has been excellent from what you have said and ALL fans should be made aware of it. Donations could increase as a result, and with the instability of football clubs the funds could be very useful in the future. There have been moans about Jockster's post, which was worded badly to a certain degree but we have been treated as completely brain dead by some that know and, I suspect, are or have been involved with the Trust. COYMR

Unfortunately, the original Trust website crashed, and the hosting company lost all the historic data, so they've had to set up a new website from scratch. I believe in time they will add to the website, but when your time is already limited, and don't forget it's all done voluntarily, there is only so much they can do with around 5-6 board members.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

Last step wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Yes, just seen that but nothing reported here yet. Hopefully just an oversight which can be sorted asap.

Lets hope so or that embargo is going to be harder to get lifted than many of us thought!

Steve. Brentford wrote:
OTR,
That`s how i would deal with it with my staff but if Swindon play this out then we could shoot ourselves in the foot by putting this sort of thing in public really wont do us no favours,for instance if players,clubs and anyone in the game thinks this is the way we do business then we will struggle to get any decent players be it loans or permanent,so that to me is the reason i would get this out the way,

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

old town robin wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:
OTR,
That`s how i would deal with it with my staff but if Swindon play this out then we could shoot ourselves in the foot by putting this sort of thing in public really wont do us no favours,for instance if players,clubs and anyone in the game thinks this is the way we do business then we will struggle to get any decent players be it loans or permanent,so that to me is the reason i would get this out the way,

Steve,
If they haven't been paid, then for sure the Italian whose name we don't mention hasn't been paid either.

To be honest, I've given up hope this lot will bring in any loanees, I'm really beginning to think we are going to have to go for it with what we've got for the last 11 games, seems like a total mess behind the scenes, big ask for Kev and the boys to get us up, but strangerv things have happened, take one game at a time and see how far we can go is all we can ask for..

mallorca wrote:
Come on New Swindon Owners.
Is the Club under an embago??????
There all kinds of rumours etc.Has this new Board actually got any Money???????
The Team has played under terrible presure,a new Boss is in Place.
Yet not apeep about some loan players coming in.
Nothing is never normal at the Town.all tthis paper todddle this week but no info

Now is the time for the new owners to come clean.
Did AB give it to them and there part of the deal was to keep the Town ticking over.
NO JED COME CLEAN

Steve. Brentford wrote:

old town robin wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:
OTR,
That`s how i would deal with it with my staff but if Swindon play this out then we could shoot ourselves in the foot by putting this sort of thing in public really wont do us no favours,for instance if players,clubs and anyone in the game thinks this is the way we do business then we will struggle to get any decent players be it loans or permanent,so that to me is the reason i would get this out the way,

Steve,
If they haven't been paid, then for sure the Italian whose name we don't mention hasn't been paid either.

To be honest, I've given up hope this lot will bring in any loanees, I'm really beginning to think we are going to have to go for it with what we've got for the last 11 games, seems like a total mess behind the scenes, big ask for Kev and the boys to get us up, but strangerv things have happened, take one game at a time and see how far we can go is all we can ask for..

Yep,i`m desperately trying to hold on to any optimism i have left myself, i just keep hoping that teething problems need sorting,god forbid if we lose a couple on the trot,people will not have the patience they appear to have right now,again it wont do us no favours mate.Good to talk OTR.

mallorca wrote:
Come on New Swindon Owners.
Is the Club under an embago??????
There all kinds of rumours etc.Has this new Board actually got any Money???????
The Team has played under terrible presure,a new Boss is in Place.
Yet not apeep about some loan players coming in.
Nothing is never normal at the Town.all tthis paper todddle this week but no info

Now is the time for the new owners to come clean.
Did AB give it to them and there part of the deal was to keep the Town ticking over.
NO JED COME CLEAN

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

the wizard wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Den, They knew what they were doing, and they were instructed to do by The Manipulator. They obviously thought which ever board would go back to them cap-in-hand "Oh boys please stay", NO, they burnt their bridges, and if I were Jed I'd make them wait, especially if they have broken their contract.
They were telling the team on the coach all the way up to Tranmere that they couldn't win the game without The manipulator being in charge, the Manipulator being on the phone to his staff for the entire journey.
Out of work are they, serves them right, they had a good job and blew it.
They thought it was right and proper to leave us high and dry, their future employers may consider that before giving them a second chance.

Oldhamred wrote:
OTR,
Sorry, just read your 6.03 post.
Same points, but yours makes better reading (allowing for the stubby fingers).

Oldhamred wrote:
OTR,
Sorry, just read your 6.03 post.
Same points, but yours makes better reading (allowing for the stubby fingers).

Okus Road wrote:

the wizard wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:
It seems our recently resigned coaching staff are claiming they've not been paid wages owed to them. (BBC)

Den, They knew what they were doing, and they were instructed to do by The Manipulator. They obviously thought which ever board would go back to them cap-in-hand "Oh boys please stay", NO, they burnt their bridges, and if I were Jed I'd make them wait, especially if they have broken their contract.
They were telling the team on the coach all the way up to Tranmere that they couldn't win the game without The manipulator being in charge, the Manipulator being on the phone to his staff for the entire journey.
Out of work are they, serves them right, they had a good job and blew it.
They thought it was right and proper to leave us high and dry, their future employers may consider that before giving them a second chance.

100% correct Wiz. I know for a fact that it was Ward at half time who got the players together and said WE the players can do this and inspired the team to victory

old town robin wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
OTR,
Sorry, just read your 6.03 post.
Same points, but yours makes better reading (allowing for the stubby fingers).

didn't know you were also ex-pinehurst Den. I'll put that down as a plus

jason900 wrote:
Is anyone else feeling just a bit nervy about the financial side of things:

Turner bleeting about unpaid fees..
Ex staff not being paid...
No new signings....
embargo....

Maybe its just me.

SummerOf1969 wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

JAFisGod wrote: John Ward is the current Chairman of TrustSTFC, who is attached to Supporters Direct. He is democratically elected by it's members. (Answering questions 1&3 above) What has the Trust done? Over the last ten years they have paid for the clubs rental of their training ground, ran the Red Army Fund, paying for players like Gordon Greer, done a ground redevelopment plan, in liaison with the Council and local residents groups, which the club has a copy, but their main job has been to be a big voice in saving this great club from Andy Andronikou and the Newbury mafia. They were the ones who raised doubts about Diamond Mike years before we nearly went bust. (Just put Trust STFC in the Adver search engine, and read some of the stories from that time), which is probably the greatest thing this organisation could've done. They don't need to publish leaflets telling people what they've achieved...the history speaks for itself.

Not knocking the work they have done and I suspect I am not alone in being educated this morning. However they should be shouting this from the rooftops and letting others know. When the Trust was identified on here recently, following Paolo's offer to fund players, I was keen to help. I went on the Trust website to find out more. The website tells you very little other than how to join. These acheivements should be on there under the History section replacing the "page to be updated soon..." and to be honest this put me off. The trust has been excellent from what you have said and ALL fans should be made aware of it. Donations could increase as a result, and with the instability of football clubs the funds could be very useful in the future. There have been moans about Jockster's post, which was worded badly to a certain degree but we have been treated as completely brain dead by some that know and, I suspect, are or have been involved with the Trust. COYMR

Unfortunately, the original Trust website crashed, and the hosting company lost all the historic data, so they've had to set up a new website from scratch.

I believe in time they will add to the website, but when your time is already limited, and don't forget it's all done voluntarily, there is only so much they can do with around 5-6 board members.