Robins number two praises MacDonald's man-management skills

Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

NEW Swindon number two Mark Cooper believes manager Kevin MacDonald’s man-management skills hold the key as the pair look to secure promotion from League One.

The duo took training for the first time on Friday morning, and the following day oversaw Town’s dramatic 2-1 comeback victory away at Coventry.

Former Peterborough boss Cooper believes MacDonald has all the tools necessary to be a success in management, but highlighted his ability to encourage and reassure his players as his major strength.

“Kevin has got the ability to treat the players like human beings, and he gets the message across that if you give him everything you’ve got you will be alright, no matter if you make mistakes,” he said. “As long as you give everything you’ve got he will be happy.

“If everyone understands that I don’t think there will be any problems, and I’m sure he will do well. Nathan Thompson proved that on Saturday, because after the mistake early on he bounced back and did really well.”

Cooper left his role as boss of AFC Telford to assist MacDonald at the County Ground, and he has no thoughts of managing again in the near future.

“I’m here as an assistant to Kevin and I’m happy where I am, so let’s see what happens,” he said.

“I’m happy to be here and learning from someone with Kevin’s experience, he has been at a big club at Aston Villa and brought through some great players, and I’m looking forward to learning from him.”

Cooper was a senior pro at Hartlepool while Tommy Miller was a youngster at Victoria Park and, despite not knowing any other members of the Town squad personally, he is well aware of the talent the squad possesses.

“I’ve come across a lot of them and knew a lot of the players having seen them play lots of times, and you do your homework because when you are out watching games you see a lot of players. So I think I knew every player,” he said.

Both MacDonald and Cooper are already planning to attend games on a regular basis in a bid to identify transfer targets, but the Advertiser understands the club are not in a position to make any loan signings this week due to a transfer embargo imposed while financial issues regarding the recent takeover at Town are ironed out.

Comments(107)

smirg kcab says...
6:41am Wed 6 Mar 13

So we are still in embargo then?
News to me
O&u

Airframe-dtm says...
6:54am Wed 6 Mar 13

It's most probably the payment to Shrewsbury for JC that was reported last week!

AFDTM

Wickham Red says...
7:08am Wed 6 Mar 13

Another transfer embargo. It seems that the football league are never happy unless they are messing with our club. Does anyone know if this is short term ?, knowing our luck they will make us wait till the end of season. Always something going on SN 1

Since 1950 says...
7:28am Wed 6 Mar 13

Embargo?? Funny how a major issue is tucked away at the end of a nothing column. Unpaid bills then.

Med Red says...
7:36am Wed 6 Mar 13

TOWN STILL UNDER TRANSFER EMBARGO.... that should have been the headline. How long before Jed and his crew sort it out? He indicated yesterday that funds where immediately available for loan targets no mention of "once the embargo has been lifted".... hmmm!

old town robin says...
7:39am Wed 6 Mar 13

Since 1950 wrote:
Embargo?? Funny how a major issue is tucked away at the end of a nothing column. Unpaid bills then.
My thoughts exactly, almost l a by the way comment as if it is of little relevance. I feel like we've been lied too by Jed, spouting yesterday that getting loanees in was just a matter of Kev telling him who he wants to bring in.

Lambourn Red says...
7:41am Wed 6 Mar 13

Sam tweeted a couple of days ago that no signings this week because of embargo from takeover still in place. The situation should be resolved this week , I suspect it is Shrewsbury kicking off about one of the appearance based payments from Collins transfer being missed due to the takeover. There should be money from the Ritchie sale to pay that

Since 1950 says...
7:50am Wed 6 Mar 13

Lambourn Red wrote:
Sam tweeted a couple of days ago that no signings this week because of embargo from takeover still in place. The situation should be resolved this week , I suspect it is Shrewsbury kicking off about one of the appearance based payments from Collins transfer being missed due to the takeover. There should be money from the Ritchie sale to pay that
Well if Sam 'Tweeted' the news then Sam should have darn well written a piece about it!

This is big news. The new board saying their intent is promotion this season and we are in an Embargo that could stop us bringing in much needed players to get us there - and it goes vertually unreported!

old town robin says...
7:59am Wed 6 Mar 13

Good job Andy Warren mentioned it or those of us that don't tweet would still be in the dark. Shoddy journalism on Sams part if he doesn't report news worthy information as and when he learns of it.

Since 1950 says...
8:26am Wed 6 Mar 13

old town robin wrote:
Good job Andy Warren mentioned it or those of us that don't tweet would still be in the dark. Shoddy journalism on Sams part if he doesn't report news worthy information as and when he learns of it.
Agreed Old Town. Sam has obviously been warned off reporting it as it should have been. Instead he's tried to bury it at the foot of a slow news day article about nothing.

The real worry is, do the consortium have any 'real' money at the moment or are they 'potless'? Have they actually yet to bring in true investors? Who are the two 'mystery men' or are they just imaginary?

LeGod says...
8:29am Wed 6 Mar 13

if its only 20k as moaner Turner mentioned then why dont we sort it. We are short on the ground player wise and we do need addiitional players in to boost the squad.

Too slow to get this sorted.

Cookie43 says...
8:40am Wed 6 Mar 13

As long as its sorted soon as the window shuts end of month.
Shame about Nick Watkins as well

Med Red says...
8:48am Wed 6 Mar 13

Cookie43 wrote:
As long as its sorted soon as the window shuts end of month. Shame about Nick Watkins as well
What's happened to Nick Watkins?

Oldhamred says...
8:51am Wed 6 Mar 13

When was it reported that Town were no longer under Embargo?

The embargo has been in place since PD Whatshisname tried to sign Pack and BWP.

It has not been removed yet so the reporting of it from Sam has not been withheld.

The headline you are waiting for is "Town Finally Out Of Embargo", but that will only come when it happens.

If you want minute by minute updates as they become known, join twitter and follow Sam.

We are all very lucky on this site as we get a regular read everything morning without fail at 6.00am.

Sam is often tweeting at gone midnight about all things STFC.

Those of you complaining need to get a grip.

Oi Den! says...
8:52am Wed 6 Mar 13

The Adver should hang its head in shame.
The club is at the dawn of a new era and a matter of huge importance is mentioned in a footnote as if it's merely incidental.

Tell us what these "issues" are. And why not do some investigation into who is supposed to be funding the club - and how?

Meanwhile, let's see if we can find a scapegoat... Ah yes, it's that nasty Football League again, or perhaps that nasty Shrewsbury Town...

Oxon-Red says...
8:52am Wed 6 Mar 13

LeGod wrote:
if its only 20k as moaner Turner mentioned then why dont we sort it. We are short on the ground player wise and we do need addiitional players in to boost the squad. Too slow to get this sorted.
Jed delivered a wheel barrow full of 25,000 shiny pennies and Shrewsbury are still counting them :-)

COYMR

London Red says...
9:00am Wed 6 Mar 13

Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on

Oi Den! says...
9:05am Wed 6 Mar 13

Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.

Med Red says...
9:17am Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Always the same few complaining! . Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week! . Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours . Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed . He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day . If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing! . As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
And always you rubbishing others opinions.

the don69 says...
9:17am Wed 6 Mar 13

Yes this Embargo has gone under the radar,needs sorting asap!so come on Jed!lets get this issue resolved now,then focus totally on winning football matches,I'll be asking Jed WHY this has not been sorted by now.Sam should have been pushing this,until the embargo is lifted!get on the case SAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oncearedalwaysared says...
9:19am Wed 6 Mar 13

On a brighter note, good to see both Doncaster and Brentford lost last night!!

Med Red says...
9:20am Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.
Agreed. Most of us thought the embargo issue had been resolved with the completion of the take over.

Cookie43 says...
9:22am Wed 6 Mar 13

Med Red wrote:
Cookie43 wrote:
As long as its sorted soon as the window shuts end of month. Shame about Nick Watkins as well
What's happened to Nick Watkins?
He has left med according to bbc wilts sound he left on friday

Lambourn Red says...
9:23am Wed 6 Mar 13

We saw how long it took the FL to ratify the takeover have any of you thought that it might not actually be the new owners fault ? Unless we know what the technicalities are that are preventing the FL from removing the embargo placed on us a few weeks ago then we cannot point the finger at the new guys.

avo says...
9:27am Wed 6 Mar 13

oncearedalwaysared wrote:
On a brighter note, good to see both Doncaster and Brentford lost last night!!
The Pox as well, sorry, wrong division!

avo says...
9:29am Wed 6 Mar 13

Med Red wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.
Agreed. Most of us thought the embargo issue had been resolved with the completion of the take over.
Why did you think that though? I must have missed that bit of information when it was released. can you enlighten me please?

Oi Den! says...
9:29am Wed 6 Mar 13

LR, please don't try to give us lessons in how to support our club.

Oldhamred says...
9:31am Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.
I can clearly see how you would assume the embargo had been lifted once ratification had taken place, but you must understand FL approval was only given to the incoming board, their backers and their bussiness plan going forward.

It was rushed through when compared to other takeovers to avoid the threat of administation.

I would have always thought there would be some "dotting of i's" and "crossing of t's" to take place after the takeover.

The removal of the embargo has probably been delayed by a late payment to Shrewsbury, but this only came to light after the takeover.

The Adver did report this story, so maybe Sam should of mentioned then that it could effect the lifting of the transfer ban.

That said, maybe I'm on my own, but I thought we were still under embargo as I hadn't read different.

For the first time ever (according to the missus), I am right.

sadgit says...
9:38am Wed 6 Mar 13

Lets hope the embargo is soon lifted but isn't refreshing to hear the new management team are actually going out to watch players prior to any signings.
It seemed the previous manager only watched dvds before splashing the cash.

Steve. Brentford says...
9:44am Wed 6 Mar 13

Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)

the don69 says...
9:51am Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Calm down dear!you'll get your fishing line in a tangle!Lol!!!!!!!!!!
!!

Ginge09 says...
10:01am Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
.
He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
.
If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
Spot on as always London

Norfolk Red says...
10:04am Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
.
He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
Does anybody actually listen to you anymore? Just because it doesn't fit in with your opinion you rubbish it, some of your posts would actually be interesting if you lost your arrogance. As Oi Den stated, don't keep trying to tell us how to support OUR club. We are all supporters and all of our opinions count, regrettably even yours.

eastmidsred says...
10:07am Wed 6 Mar 13

For God's sake stop all the moaning and criticising. These guys have just taken over, there are bound to be glitches and a few unknowns that come out of the woodwork at this early stage. Give them a chance to sort it. I'm sure the transfer embargo will be short term. Having gone through all this upheaval in the last few weeks, I'd rather be in our shoes now than Portsmouth, Leicester and a whole bunch of other clubs. Jed and Kev have started extremely well.

Stilloyal says...
10:08am Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever. SISTER STEVE. (and don't think i missed that one Don)
Good shout Steve. Far too much abuse of our own players.
How are ya buddy ?

Wilesy says...
10:23am Wed 6 Mar 13

Saw Sam's tweet on the embargo last week thought it was common knowledge.

Guess until KMac needs to get the loans in then hold onto the latest Collins installment.

Fast getting to the point though where there's no point getting them.

How is Hollands doing must be about recovered?

Did Martin go to a Championship club in the end?

As above having Macca in CM, Devera and Luke Rooney back boosts numbers nicely.

Guess KMac will either

a) keep the togetherness and team spirit and not get loans in

b) be ruthless and get a winger, centre mid and striker

wouldn't be surprised if he goes for a) although if he's chosen an unfit Ferry ahead of Raffa and Luke Rooney he might fancy getting a winger in.

I also like the thought of Macca and Pack in the middle (MaccaPacka!) but not sure if Pack would want to make the move now he seems rejuvenated at Cheltenham

Steve. Brentford says...
10:32am Wed 6 Mar 13

Stilloyal wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever. SISTER STEVE. (and don't think i missed that one Don)
Good shout Steve. Far too much abuse of our own players.
How are ya buddy ?
Hello Al,although it was a little tongue in cheek,i really cant see any reason why this current bunch of players deserve to be abused,i understand that some feel our forwards should convert more shots to goals but if they did we would not have them for long would we,come the end of the season i will be surprised if Willo and JC have not finished with a similar tally to Cox and Paynter and bearing in mind they have not played every game whats to moan about.Take care Al look forward to seeing you soon mate.

tally38 says...
10:45am Wed 6 Mar 13

Lambourn Red wrote:
We saw how long it took the FL to ratify the takeover have any of you thought that it might not actually be the new owners fault ? Unless we know what the technicalities are that are preventing the FL from removing the embargo placed on us a few weeks ago then we cannot point the finger at the new guys.
YOU GOT A LOT TO SAY FOR YOURSELF THIS MORNING

London Red says...
10:53am Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve please don't tell us how to "support" our club :)
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We all know the definition of support is different in Swindon to the rest of the world - elsewhere it is to encurage, provide reassurance, provide the needs to survive - in Swindon it is clearly to ridicule and pre judge!

London Red says...
10:59am Wed 6 Mar 13

If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!)
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons

old town robin says...
11:39am Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!)
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
so to start your message with "always the same few complaining" in your eyes isn't been disrespectful to the opinions of others. Maybe you would like to name and shame who we are then LR, bring it out in the open which ones of us should stop posting because we may have opinions different to yours. Personally I get fed up of those that moan about the moaners. Kettle & Pot comes to mind.
I think we all understand the board and team management have only just arrived and things take time, but I think you are missing the point that was raised that the fact we are still under embargo was tucked away as a footnote which was probably of more interest to those of us that were not aware than reading Marks praise of Kevin,


Maybe Oldham red has a good point that we wrongly assumed once the new owners take over was ratified, many of us thought we had the all clear to bring some much needed additions to our waifer thin squad. McCrory has said kevin only needs to let him know who he wants and the board would sanction it. he also said the same for renewing of contracts of existing team members. Seems like a lot of promises being made, let's hope he lives up to them

Oi Den! says...
11:51am Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!)
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
LR, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't see anyone bashing the new manager or the new board. Yes, we are asking questions, and I admit to feeling uneasy because I don't feel that we are getting the same openness as when Fitton and co came in.
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As for getting to the Q&A to ask questions, well I can tell you I've done that many times over the years and I've nearly always walked out knowing about the same as when I walked in. So please don't tell me I should get to the ground three hours early if I want to know what is going on. In any case, if the club is under a transfer embargo, it shouldn't be a matter of having to ask about it. I would have thought the new owners would want to show us what they're about by telling us how it has happened and what they intend to do about it.

Oi Den! says...
11:54am Wed 6 Mar 13

Wilesy, Martin is at Derby (unless there's another striker of the same name).

Oi Den! says...
12:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!

Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!

stigger says...
12:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Wilesy, Martin is at Derby (unless there's another striker of the same name).
yes he is, saw him on FL show this week missing a chance!

LeGod says...
12:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Chris Martin is on a months loan at Derby.
I wonder if this Pack loan will go ahead or will he stay at Cheltenham or maybe he doesnt want to come any more or KM may look at other players.

the don69 says...
12:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Wilesy, Martin is at Derby (unless there's another striker of the same name).
Yes he's playing for Derby and he scored last night,but was given offside when he was onside,but as they say,that's football!!!!!!!!!

Steve. Brentford says...
12:21pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!

Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.

the don69 says...
12:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!

Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.
And the important question Steve!which is the best Pub to go to before the match(haven't been to Brentford for a few years)!!!!!!!!!!

Steve. Brentford says...
12:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!

Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.
of not off

Steve. Brentford says...
12:37pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Don,as you are probably aware Griffin park as a pub on all four corners of the ground and the Griffin pub is closest to the away end,to be honest none of the 4 pubs are out of bounds to away fans but they all get packed, well they did the last time we played there hope this helps and maybe i will see you in the garden of the Griffin,cheers.

Oi Den! says...
12:43pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve, thanks for the info.

London Red says...
12:46pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Den - you may not be bashing them but asking a few sensible questions - which is fine I'm sure most of us have questions - but there are others doing it
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We hear repeatedly the phases like potless, cowboys and all sorts refering to them before they have even had a chance to do anything
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Granted prior Q&A's may have not been fuitful - but that doesn't mean future ones will be - they are different people after all
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Most people who have actually spoken to Jed seem to think he is an open, honest and genuine guy
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All i'm saying is lets cut them some slack - after all they DID save us from oblivion!
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Get behind the club and see if they are true to their word about driving us forward and taking us up
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1 week is not a time frame to judge on - end of the season and in to next is more of a realistic time to see how things have progressed
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I have a few questions which I bet others do - what is the current debt level? Has the JC issue been resolved? How serious is the issue relating to the embargo? When is this likely to be lifted?
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So lets see if they do answer it on Sat - I'm sure someone from these boards will be at the CG early and could ask the questions!

London Red says...
12:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13

That get behind the club bit was more general not aimed at you Den

the don69 says...
12:52pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Don,as you are probably aware Griffin park as a pub on all four corners of the ground and the Griffin pub is closest to the away end,to be honest none of the 4 pubs are out of bounds to away fans but they all get packed, well they did the last time we played there hope this helps and maybe i will see you in the garden of the Griffin,cheers.
Thanks Steve!the Griffin Garden it is then!!!!!!!!!!!

avo says...
1:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?

hertz says...
1:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13

And back to the start of the article , I think we already saw Kev treating his players like humans on Saturday , when n young Nathan lost that ball for Coventrys first Kevin was on the corner of his technical area encouraging ,also when Andy missed two chances Kev kept the faith and finally Andy rewarded us with a goal ,he that does'nt get mentioned anymore would have probably hauled them both off and simply knocked the confidence out of them for the next game , both will be better for the experience and Andy will just grow in confidence ,IMHO COYR

the don69 says...
1:09pm Wed 6 Mar 13

avo wrote:
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!

the wizard says...
1:15pm Wed 6 Mar 13

I have observed that SuperMac is a bit shy when it comes to the press, refreshing. It seems that Mark Cooper is more the media man and I have no problem with that either, we new era.
The biz over the embargo is not a worry in my book, as the original embargo was lifted hence the loan signings of Pack etc. The problem lays with Big Ears Turner acting like a pillock. He will get his money and then we can all move on. These things take time and the new guys need time to come to grips with all that is going on, no doubt a whole raft more than what they are used to. Nick Watkins being politely shown the exit will not help, I thought it would have been prudent for him to stay in place until the end of the season, never mind its done now.
The whole bigger picture of SuperMac integrating with youth and players being brought on bodes well for me and the exploration of playing guys in different positions also shows a degree of imagination. With a whole different approach we may be able to save time and money on bringing in new faces.

Rebel_phish says...
1:16pm Wed 6 Mar 13

oncearedalwaysared wrote:
On a brighter note, good to see both Doncaster and Brentford lost last night!!
Shame on you, wishing ill on our rivals.!!!

Big match for us at the weekend and I don't mean Walsall.

Bournemouth v Doncaster. Could do with the Cherries putting one over on Donny. I don't really want Bournemouth to get 3 points, but I don't want Doncaster to get even 1 point.

Bournemouth could go 5 straight defeats (ha), but that would make catching Doncaster a little harder.

But then we need to get a win against Walsall....

Ooooo .... all the possibilities ....

Oi Den! says...
1:17pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Fair enough LR. I give McCrory and co every chance. It may be a bit generous to say they've saved us from oblivion though. Black and co certainly did that by paying off all our debts 5 years ago. And now they've given us the bonus of writing off the money they lent to pay those debts. The new owners have acquired a club that is free of all callable debt - and it's the old owners who made that possible. So far, all McCrory and his men have done is get their hands on the club. We have no information whatsoever on how they are going to fund it. It may well be that they are about to make a fantastic job of it. But why isn't he chomping at the bit to tell us what he and his associates are going to do, starting with talking about getting rid of this transfer embargo?

RedRich says...
1:26pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Transfer embargo is a bit of a surprise, good old Football League again! Might not be anything to do with any payment due to Shrewsbury as nothing in their press

Oi Den! says...
1:27pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Wiz, why do make the assumption that this has anything to do with "Big Ears Turner" acting like a "pillock"? It is surely a Football League matter? Perhaps it is indeed related to the money we owe Shrewsbury for Collins. If so, I don't think for a second that the League base their strategies and sanctions on a few lines of interview in the Shropshire Star. If we've failed to meet our obligations, it's not Turner's fault and it's not the League's fault - it's ours.

Oldhamred says...
2:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13

the don69 wrote:
avo wrote:
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.

The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.

swwindon61uk says...
2:35pm Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
What questions do you intend to ask then LR?
I can not get down there as unfortunately (or fortunately as the case might be) i am working until 2pm.

swwindon61uk says...
2:38pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.

SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!

Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Last season when we went by car we parked outside the away end.
We were there very early though,like midday,but just jumped on the number 65 bus and went to Richmond where we had a couple of beers and some lunch.

Since 1950 says...
3:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13

avo wrote:
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo? . I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it? . I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion? . Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
Avo. I don't know if this is the 'old embargo or a new one. certainly I for one had assumed that the old embargo would have been lifted as part of the take over. Surely the take over wouldn't have been allowed to go ahead with an embargo in place.
The article is written as if it were a 'new' embargo for sure. 'The Advertiser UNDERSTANDS the club are not in a position.... certainly gives the impression of a new embargo. If it were the old one then surely Sam would have said 'ongoin' or 'continuing' Embargo.
Either way it is very poor reporting and that was the point.

the don69 says...
3:07pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oldhamred wrote:
the don69 wrote:
avo wrote:
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
.
Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.

The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.
I think most of us assumed(wrongly) that when the takeover went through we came out of the embargo,so questions must be asked?what is holding up the embargo lifting???????

joey butler says...
3:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Paul Benson scored for Cheltenham again last night.

Perhaps he would be better back with us, even as an 'impact sub?'

He was scoring plenty of goals for Swindon this time last year and I don't think Cheltenham will release Pack now, after current embargo ends.

Ideally we would have Pack and Benson, but I guess life is never that easy!!

Oldhamred says...
3:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13

the don69 wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
the don69 wrote:
avo wrote:
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
.
I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
.
Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.

The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.
I think most of us assumed(wrongly) that when the takeover went through we came out of the embargo,so questions must be asked?what is holding up the embargo lifting???????
I fully agree that questions should be asked; but I get the impression from how Jed has talked about incoming loanees that it is a fairly minor hiccup.

I'm fairly certain that we can have confidence in what Jed says, afterall his word and actions have been positive to date.

I see no reason to doubt him, and as he has said loans could come in next week, that is good enough for me.

avo says...
3:48pm Wed 6 Mar 13

OldhamRed - I was indeed asking when it had been stated that we were out of embargo, and thank you for clearing up what I had assumed, and that was that until I hear we are out of embargo, I assume we are still under it.
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I agree with others that it would be nice though to now be told the reason behind this state of limbo.
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I also dismiss any panicky reaction though, as less than 7 days ago we went away to a team with promotion aspirations of their own, with a depleted squad, new manager a whopping 24 hours into a new role for both him and our beloved club, and a massive away following, played them off the park and bagged the 3 points.
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Nothing to panic about just yet.
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Obviously I hope it's lifted sooner rather than later, but I won't be pressing any alarm buttons on the back of this article.

smirg kcab says...
3:51pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.

In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards

smirg kcab says...
3:54pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Reported 19th February 2013.
See archive

avo says...
3:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Expected to yes, but never confirmed?

Oldhamred says...
4:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13

smirg kcab wrote:
Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.

In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo.

It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc.

I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning.

Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.

smirg kcab says...
4:22pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted

smirg kcab says...
4:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13

smirg kcab wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
Slippery sans words not mine cocky

the don69 says...
4:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.

In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo.

It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc.

I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning.

Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
I play the Euro-million's!Sadly I'm very disappointed after checking my ticket,that I can't afford to buy STFC!lol!!!!!!!!!!!

smirg kcab says...
4:29pm Wed 6 Mar 13

smirg kcab wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
Slippery sans words not mine cocky
Saying that he did say McCormick was signing that's twice now I believed this buffoon of a reporter.
Onwards and upwards cocky

Oldhamred says...
4:37pm Wed 6 Mar 13

smirg kcab wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
Slippery sans words not mine cocky
What's with the "cocky" comment?

Very brave words behind a username.

You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously?

Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.

Oxon-Red says...
4:40pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
Slippery sans words not mine cocky
What's with the "cocky" comment? Very brave words behind a username. You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously? Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.
I thought it was Sam MORShead :-)

COYMR

Since 1950 says...
4:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!) . Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why! . Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others . Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic . Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults? . What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth! . I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week . If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
NOT complaining London, just passing comment. That is what the comments section is for I believe.

Also I was not 'complaining' about any aspect of the club. What I was 'complaining' about was the shoddy journalism and the manner in which the latest embargo issue was reported.

That in a later post led me to ask what else wasn't being reported about the club.

Please get your facts right.

Thank you.

Oldhamred says...
4:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oxon-Red wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwards
I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
Slippery sans words not mine cocky
What's with the "cocky" comment? Very brave words behind a username. You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously? Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.
I thought it was Sam MORShead :-)

COYMR
I walked right into that one. lol ;-)

smirg kcab says...
4:46pm Wed 6 Mar 13

“I think it’s got to be Kevin’s decision as a manager, he may have a different view on how we play,” he said. “Let’s let him get the players if he wants Marlon and Danny then I’ll get on the phone now. I’ll do what he requires to get this team up.”

Sorry jed we are in embargo
No can dooooooooo

Steve. Brentford says...
5:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13

smirg kcab wrote:
“I think it’s got to be Kevin’s decision as a manager, he may have a different view on how we play,” he said. “Let’s let him get the players if he wants Marlon and Danny then I’ll get on the phone now. I’ll do what he requires to get this team up.”

Sorry jed we are in embargo
No can dooooooooo
Yep it was this article that made me think we no longer had a embargo placed on us and i find it a little strange that words like "i will get on the phone now" can be used. Oh well never a dull day in the life of a town supporter.Embargo or not we are still in it at the moment so hopefully this will be sorted rather sharpish.

old town robin says...
6:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13

I'm expecting Sam to provide a clarification in the morning as to what the reason is we are still under an embargo after the transfer of ownership was sanctioned. Also would be nice to know when will Kev actually be able to add to the squad. An explanation of Jeds comments that he will get on the phone to bring in loanees seems somewhat premature when he isn't able to do that if we are still under an embargo.

Window closes 25th March, after which we still have seven games left to play, it would be great if Holland would be fit by then, but put my trust in Kevin to bring a midfielder and a striker in to help us get that automatic place.

London Red says...
6:51pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Den - watch the videos on the BBC or Player with Jed and it clearly says if he didn't make a decision that day it was curtains!
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He clearly said when asked why us - I didn't want to see one of the football community go
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If that is not saving us from oblivion I don't know what is
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Yes they don't have the debt the previous board did (that's all of them as Fitton and Arbib have written off millions too) but if they didn't do he deal that was it - it wasn't going to be 10 points it was explosion!!!!!!!

avo says...
7:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Ah. so expected, and understood to have, now translate as 'STFC have today officially announced that the transfer embargo has been lifted' lol
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Glad that's cleared that up then. There was me thinking we were all guilty of interpretation and assumption. My apologies.
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Admittedly, Jed did throw a spanner in the thought process with the 'i'll get on the phone now' comments.
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Jed, you're a bad man!

Oi Den! says...
7:31pm Wed 6 Mar 13

I know exactly what's been said, LR. What I meant was whether the new owners have prevented our extinction or merely postponed it for a while remains to be seen. I can't see that taking over the club is in itself saving us from oblivion. I don't imagine they've paid much for the club, and as agreed they have no debt to clear. You said yourself that there were at least seven bidders when you were telling us how positive it all was that the club was up for sale. Only one of those bidders could succeed. If McCrory's group had dropped out earlier, it must be likely that someone else would have "saved" us. Perhaps we have ended up with the best of the seven - who knows? I think we need something more definite from them in terms of how they are going to take the club forward.

And I wasn't suggesting it was only Black who had written off his debt. Black has told us that Arbib was always willing to write his loans off but Fitton was less happy to do so. I don't know whether Fitton was persuaded in the end.

swindon1969 says...
7:52pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oh dear oh deary me, is this sight not for debate on things that are Swindon Town related? Is it not the right for Town fans to have their say on what THEY believe is happening with this club? Its getting to the point where my say is better than yours, why? just got new owners, they KNOW what the score is give them time.
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.

avo says...
7:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13

that's telling us! Sir.

Oi Den! says...
8:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13

swindon1969 wrote:
Oh dear oh deary me, is this sight not for debate on things that are Swindon Town related? Is it not the right for Town fans to have their say on what THEY believe is happening with this club? Its getting to the point where my say is better than yours, why? just got new owners, they KNOW what the score is give them time.
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.
Yep - all true. So what's the problem? (apart from people like me boring everyone senseless of course).

London Red says...
8:49pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Den he either was persuaded or had a gun to his head - you decide which you think it was!
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It has only been said the debt was written off - that's still leaves the equity!
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Now what that totals - who knows as we have not seen the accounts since the last few rights issues but in the last set of accounts it was over £2m
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We were led to believe AB put another £2m in so that could be as high as £4m - but did the split to A and B shares drastically reduce that value????
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So what Jed and Co paid to secure the equity????!!
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Jed clearly said he put his money in - so its clear to me he wasn't given he club as some seem to think he has been
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Guess that is another question to be posed - was equity transferred at face value? And what is the current share capital?

swindon1969 says...
9:01pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
swindon1969 wrote:
Oh dear oh deary me, is this sight not for debate on things that are Swindon Town related? Is it not the right for Town fans to have their say on what THEY believe is happening with this club? Its getting to the point where my say is better than yours, why? just got new owners, they KNOW what the score is give them time.
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.
Yep - all true. So what's the problem? (apart from people like me boring everyone senseless of course).
Nothing is boring, I just like reaseond debate, everyone has somthing to debate, just respect eveyone who has somthing sensable to say,without giving each other grief, we all support the same team. Is that not the point of this site, to debate?

the wizard says...
9:03pm Wed 6 Mar 13

London Red wrote:
Den he either was persuaded or had a gun to his head - you decide which you think it was!
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It has only been said the debt was written off - that's still leaves the equity!
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Now what that totals - who knows as we have not seen the accounts since the last few rights issues but in the last set of accounts it was over £2m
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We were led to believe AB put another £2m in so that could be as high as £4m - but did the split to A and B shares drastically reduce that value????
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So what Jed and Co paid to secure the equity????!!
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Jed clearly said he put his money in - so its clear to me he wasn't given he club as some seem to think he has been
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Guess that is another question to be posed - was equity transferred at face value? And what is the current share capital?
LR,

I don't know how much this alters things but there was a sticking point on that last evening as the deadline came closer and closer, and that was Fitton would not "give" the money the club owed him. The way it was put to me was Black eventually had to negotiate a deal with Fitton, and Jed paid Black who then paid Fitton, very nip and tuck, how much that had a bearing on the final deal I don't know. When it came down to the last few hours a few things had to be sorted .

Its all done now, time to let the dust settle. I'll do my best to be in the LL for mid day on Saturday.

Mikey107 says...
9:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Embargo?? I'm sorry but this was not made clear to the public, Jed himself said last week we are looking for new players and if k mac wanted pack or green then he'd get on the phone...

If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?

Another day in the life of a town fan

joey butler says...
9:40pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Mikey107 wrote:
Embargo?? I'm sorry but this was not made clear to the public, Jed himself said last week we are looking for new players and if k mac wanted pack or green then he'd get on the phone...

If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?

Another day in the life of a town fan
So we cannot, even now, sign new players, or on loan?

This makes the new Owners look very silly, if not a bunch of chancers.

''Ride a **** horse to Banbury Cross
To see a fine lady upon a white horse
With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes,
She shall have music wherever she goes''

Or no music!!.

joey butler says...
9:43pm Wed 6 Mar 13

joey butler wrote:
Mikey107 wrote:
Embargo?? I'm sorry but this was not made clear to the public, Jed himself said last week we are looking for new players and if k mac wanted pack or green then he'd get on the phone...

If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?

Another day in the life of a town fan
So we cannot, even now, sign new players, or on loan?

This makes the new Owners look very silly, if not a bunch of chancers.

''Ride a **** horse to Banbury Cross
To see a fine lady upon a white horse
With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes,
She shall have music wherever she goes''

Or no music!!.
Or a horse with a very large diddler, will that pass the censors please?

Oi Den! says...
9:49pm Wed 6 Mar 13

LR, I'm not sure equity has a face value, does it? The shares in the company are only worth whatever value is in the company - and that can't be much as we don't own the ground.

Oi Den! says...
9:57pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Joey, I think you've hit the nail on the head. The new owners may be doing everything right for all we know, but if so they are not getting their message across, and so they do run the risk of looking silly.

sp1dersw3b says...
10:05pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
LR, I'm not sure equity has a face value, does it? The shares in the company are only worth whatever value is in the company - and that can't be much as we don't own the ground.
You both have been debating, squabbling, arguing, seething, posturing, crowing, digging, etc etc etc all day on this thread!

If I didn't know better you two must be married - reminds me of a bickering, bored, flameless marriage to me, always trying to have the last and final say!

I normally agree with most of LR's posts as it happens and the personal attacks are unsavoury and unnecessary, to say the least- and Den's are not so bad either but please guys or ladies, your tiffs in public are becoming quite embarrassing - LOL.

IMO only, of course - COYR's

Oi Den! says...
10:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Haha! Point taken, spider. I can see how it all looks. Ah well, time to sit back and see what happens next I suppose.

joey butler says...
10:33pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
Joey, I think you've hit the nail on the head. The new owners may be doing everything right for all we know, but if so they are not getting their message across, and so they do run the risk of looking silly.
Thank you Den, I really appreciate your comment.

The Jockster says...
10:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Oi Den! wrote:
The Adver should hang its head in shame.
The club is at the dawn of a new era and a matter of huge importance is mentioned in a footnote as if it's merely incidental.

Tell us what these "issues" are. And why not do some investigation into who is supposed to be funding the club - and how?

Meanwhile, let's see if we can find a scapegoat... Ah yes, it's that nasty Football League again, or perhaps that nasty Shrewsbury Town...
"Hang down your head Sam Morshead hang down your head and cry, hang down your head Sam Morshead.....etc Apologies to Tom Dooley!!

Take 100 lines Samuel " I must endeavour to report important information about the club that I'm supposed to be a life long supporter of"

Pewsham Red says...
10:54pm Wed 6 Mar 13

eastmidsred wrote:
For God's sake stop all the moaning and criticising. These guys have just taken over, there are bound to be glitches and a few unknowns that come out of the woodwork at this early stage. Give them a chance to sort it. I'm sure the transfer embargo will be short term. Having gone through all this upheaval in the last few weeks, I'd rather be in our shoes now than Portsmouth, Leicester and a whole bunch of other clubs. Jed and Kev have started extremely well.
Is an embargo a glitch? Quite a serious one I would suggest. Certainly not going to blame new guys but I would think that this is something that needs sorting sooner than later.

the wizard says...
11:16pm Wed 6 Mar 13

I honestly don't see that this embargo can be of such big consequence when the FL have said the owners are OK, the business model is OK and the funding is OK. If there is/was a serious problem it does show the FL in a very bad light.
If there is a squabble it is surely between who is liable for the monies owed for Collins, probably Jed saying its Blacks debt and he should pay, while Black says you now own the club and took on its responsibilities.

the don69 says...
8:46am Thu 7 Mar 13

sp1dersw3b wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
LR, I'm not sure equity has a face value, does it? The shares in the company are only worth whatever value is in the company - and that can't be much as we don't own the ground.
You both have been debating, squabbling, arguing, seething, posturing, crowing, digging, etc etc etc all day on this thread!

If I didn't know better you two must be married - reminds me of a bickering, bored, flameless marriage to me, always trying to have the last and final say!

I normally agree with most of LR's posts as it happens and the personal attacks are unsavoury and unnecessary, to say the least- and Den's are not so bad either but please guys or ladies, your tiffs in public are becoming quite embarrassing - LOL.

IMO only, of course - COYR's
Caught in the sp1dersw3b chaps,or the the black widow's web!LOL!!!!!!!

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