Robins number two praises MacDonald's man-management skills (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
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Robins number two praises MacDonald's man-management skills
6:00am Wednesday 6th March 2013 in Sport By Andy Warren
Mark Cooper
NEW Swindon number two Mark Cooper believes manager Kevin MacDonald’s man-management skills hold the key as the pair look to secure promotion from League One.
The duo took training for the first time on Friday morning, and the following day oversaw Town’s dramatic 2-1 comeback victory away at Coventry.
Former Peterborough boss Cooper believes MacDonald has all the tools necessary to be a success in management, but highlighted his ability to encourage and reassure his players as his major strength.
“Kevin has got the ability to treat the players like human beings, and he gets the message across that if you give him everything you’ve got you will be alright, no matter if you make mistakes,” he said. “As long as you give everything you’ve got he will be happy.
“If everyone understands that I don’t think there will be any problems, and I’m sure he will do well. Nathan Thompson proved that on Saturday, because after the mistake early on he bounced back and did really well.”
Cooper left his role as boss of AFC Telford to assist MacDonald at the County Ground, and he has no thoughts of managing again in the near future.
“I’m here as an assistant to Kevin and I’m happy where I am, so let’s see what happens,” he said.
“I’m happy to be here and learning from someone with Kevin’s experience, he has been at a big club at Aston Villa and brought through some great players, and I’m looking forward to learning from him.”
Cooper was a senior pro at Hartlepool while Tommy Miller was a youngster at Victoria Park and, despite not knowing any other members of the Town squad personally, he is well aware of the talent the squad possesses.
“I’ve come across a lot of them and knew a lot of the players having seen them play lots of times, and you do your homework because when you are out watching games you see a lot of players. So I think I knew every player,” he said.
Both MacDonald and Cooper are already planning to attend games on a regular basis in a bid to identify transfer targets, but the Advertiser understands the club are not in a position to make any loan signings this week due to a transfer embargo imposed while financial issues regarding the recent takeover at Town are ironed out.
Comments(107)
Airframe-dtm
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6:54am Wed 6 Mar 13
AFDTM
Wickham Red
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7:08am Wed 6 Mar 13
Since 1950
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7:28am Wed 6 Mar 13
Med Red
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7:36am Wed 6 Mar 13
old town robin
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7:39am Wed 6 Mar 13
Since 1950 wrote:My thoughts exactly, almost l a by the way comment as if it is of little relevance. I feel like we've been lied too by Jed, spouting yesterday that getting loanees in was just a matter of Kev telling him who he wants to bring in.
Embargo?? Funny how a major issue is tucked away at the end of a nothing column. Unpaid bills then.
Lambourn Red
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7:41am Wed 6 Mar 13
Since 1950
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7:50am Wed 6 Mar 13
Lambourn Red wrote:Well if Sam 'Tweeted' the news then Sam should have darn well written a piece about it!
Sam tweeted a couple of days ago that no signings this week because of embargo from takeover still in place. The situation should be resolved this week , I suspect it is Shrewsbury kicking off about one of the appearance based payments from Collins transfer being missed due to the takeover. There should be money from the Ritchie sale to pay that
This is big news. The new board saying their intent is promotion this season and we are in an Embargo that could stop us bringing in much needed players to get us there - and it goes vertually unreported!
old town robin
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7:59am Wed 6 Mar 13
Since 1950
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8:26am Wed 6 Mar 13
old town robin wrote:Agreed Old Town. Sam has obviously been warned off reporting it as it should have been. Instead he's tried to bury it at the foot of a slow news day article about nothing.
Good job Andy Warren mentioned it or those of us that don't tweet would still be in the dark. Shoddy journalism on Sams part if he doesn't report news worthy information as and when he learns of it.
The real worry is, do the consortium have any 'real' money at the moment or are they 'potless'? Have they actually yet to bring in true investors? Who are the two 'mystery men' or are they just imaginary?
LeGod
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8:29am Wed 6 Mar 13
Too slow to get this sorted.
Cookie43
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8:40am Wed 6 Mar 13
Shame about Nick Watkins as well
Med Red
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8:48am Wed 6 Mar 13
Cookie43 wrote:What's happened to Nick Watkins?
As long as its sorted soon as the window shuts end of month. Shame about Nick Watkins as well
Oldhamred
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8:51am Wed 6 Mar 13
The embargo has been in place since PD Whatshisname tried to sign Pack and BWP.
It has not been removed yet so the reporting of it from Sam has not been withheld.
The headline you are waiting for is "Town Finally Out Of Embargo", but that will only come when it happens.
If you want minute by minute updates as they become known, join twitter and follow Sam.
We are all very lucky on this site as we get a regular read everything morning without fail at 6.00am.
Sam is often tweeting at gone midnight about all things STFC.
Those of you complaining need to get a grip.
Oi Den!
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8:52am Wed 6 Mar 13
The club is at the dawn of a new era and a matter of huge importance is mentioned in a footnote as if it's merely incidental.
Tell us what these "issues" are. And why not do some investigation into who is supposed to be funding the club - and how?
Meanwhile, let's see if we can find a scapegoat... Ah yes, it's that nasty Football League again, or perhaps that nasty Shrewsbury Town...
Oxon-Red
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8:52am Wed 6 Mar 13
LeGod wrote:Jed delivered a wheel barrow full of 25,000 shiny pennies and Shrewsbury are still counting them :-)
if its only 20k as moaner Turner mentioned then why dont we sort it. We are short on the ground player wise and we do need addiitional players in to boost the squad. Too slow to get this sorted.
COYMR
London Red
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9:00am Wed 6 Mar 13
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
Oi Den!
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9:05am Wed 6 Mar 13
Med Red
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9:17am Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:And always you rubbishing others opinions.
Always the same few complaining! . Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week! . Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours . Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed . He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day . If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing! . As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
the don69
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9:17am Wed 6 Mar 13
oncearedalwaysared
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9:19am Wed 6 Mar 13
Med Red
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9:20am Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Agreed. Most of us thought the embargo issue had been resolved with the completion of the take over.
Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.
Cookie43
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9:22am Wed 6 Mar 13
Med Red wrote:He has left med according to bbc wilts sound he left on friday
Cookie43 wrote:What's happened to Nick Watkins?
As long as its sorted soon as the window shuts end of month. Shame about Nick Watkins as well
Lambourn Red
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9:23am Wed 6 Mar 13
avo
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9:27am Wed 6 Mar 13
oncearedalwaysared wrote:The Pox as well, sorry, wrong division!
On a brighter note, good to see both Doncaster and Brentford lost last night!!
avo
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9:29am Wed 6 Mar 13
Med Red wrote:Why did you think that though? I must have missed that bit of information when it was released. can you enlighten me please?
Oi Den! wrote: Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.Agreed. Most of us thought the embargo issue had been resolved with the completion of the take over.
Oi Den!
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9:29am Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred
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9:31am Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:I can clearly see how you would assume the embargo had been lifted once ratification had taken place, but you must understand FL approval was only given to the incoming board, their backers and their bussiness plan going forward.
Sorry Oldham. Disagree on this one. I think we were entitled to believe that any such problem would have been resolved when the takeover was done. The fact that it is still hanging over us is a major concern and certainly not something that should have been relegated to the foot of a largely uninformative piece.
It was rushed through when compared to other takeovers to avoid the threat of administation.
I would have always thought there would be some "dotting of i's" and "crossing of t's" to take place after the takeover.
The removal of the embargo has probably been delayed by a late payment to Shrewsbury, but this only came to light after the takeover.
The Adver did report this story, so maybe Sam should of mentioned then that it could effect the lifting of the transfer ban.
That said, maybe I'm on my own, but I thought we were still under embargo as I hadn't read different.
For the first time ever (according to the missus), I am right.
sadgit
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9:38am Wed 6 Mar 13
It seemed the previous manager only watched dvds before splashing the cash.
Steve. Brentford
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9:44am Wed 6 Mar 13
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
the don69
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9:51am Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Calm down dear!you'll get your fishing line in a tangle!Lol!!!!!!!!!!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
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Ginge09
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10:01am Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Spot on as always London
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
Norfolk Red
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10:04am Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Does anybody actually listen to you anymore? Just because it doesn't fit in with your opinion you rubbish it, some of your posts would actually be interesting if you lost your arrogance. As Oi Den stated, don't keep trying to tell us how to support OUR club. We are all supporters and all of our opinions count, regrettably even yours.
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
eastmidsred
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10:07am Wed 6 Mar 13
Stilloyal
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10:08am Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Good shout Steve. Far too much abuse of our own players.
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever. SISTER STEVE. (and don't think i missed that one Don)
How are ya buddy ?
Wilesy
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10:23am Wed 6 Mar 13
Guess until KMac needs to get the loans in then hold onto the latest Collins installment.
Fast getting to the point though where there's no point getting them.
How is Hollands doing must be about recovered?
Did Martin go to a Championship club in the end?
As above having Macca in CM, Devera and Luke Rooney back boosts numbers nicely.
Guess KMac will either
a) keep the togetherness and team spirit and not get loans in
b) be ruthless and get a winger, centre mid and striker
wouldn't be surprised if he goes for a) although if he's chosen an unfit Ferry ahead of Raffa and Luke Rooney he might fancy getting a winger in.
I also like the thought of Macca and Pack in the middle (MaccaPacka!) but not sure if Pack would want to make the move now he seems rejuvenated at Cheltenham
Steve. Brentford
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10:32am Wed 6 Mar 13
Stilloyal wrote:Hello Al,although it was a little tongue in cheek,i really cant see any reason why this current bunch of players deserve to be abused,i understand that some feel our forwards should convert more shots to goals but if they did we would not have them for long would we,come the end of the season i will be surprised if Willo and JC have not finished with a similar tally to Cox and Paynter and bearing in mind they have not played every game whats to moan about.Take care Al look forward to seeing you soon mate.
Steve. Brentford wrote:Good shout Steve. Far too much abuse of our own players.
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever. SISTER STEVE. (and don't think i missed that one Don)
How are ya buddy ?
tally38
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10:45am Wed 6 Mar 13
Lambourn Red wrote:YOU GOT A LOT TO SAY FOR YOURSELF THIS MORNING
We saw how long it took the FL to ratify the takeover have any of you thought that it might not actually be the new owners fault ? Unless we know what the technicalities are that are preventing the FL from removing the embargo placed on us a few weeks ago then we cannot point the finger at the new guys.
London Red
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10:53am Wed 6 Mar 13
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We all know the definition of support is different in Swindon to the rest of the world - elsewhere it is to encurage, provide reassurance, provide the needs to survive - in Swindon it is clearly to ridicule and pre judge!
London Red
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10:59am Wed 6 Mar 13
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
old town robin
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11:39am Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:so to start your message with "always the same few complaining" in your eyes isn't been disrespectful to the opinions of others. Maybe you would like to name and shame who we are then LR, bring it out in the open which ones of us should stop posting because we may have opinions different to yours. Personally I get fed up of those that moan about the moaners. Kettle & Pot comes to mind.
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!)
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
I think we all understand the board and team management have only just arrived and things take time, but I think you are missing the point that was raised that the fact we are still under embargo was tucked away as a footnote which was probably of more interest to those of us that were not aware than reading Marks praise of Kevin,
Maybe Oldham red has a good point that we wrongly assumed once the new owners take over was ratified, many of us thought we had the all clear to bring some much needed additions to our waifer thin squad. McCrory has said kevin only needs to let him know who he wants and the board would sanction it. he also said the same for renewing of contracts of existing team members. Seems like a lot of promises being made, let's hope he lives up to them
Oi Den!
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11:51am Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:LR, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't see anyone bashing the new manager or the new board. Yes, we are asking questions, and I admit to feeling uneasy because I don't feel that we are getting the same openness as when Fitton and co came in.
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!)
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Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why!
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Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others
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Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic
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Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults?
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What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth!
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I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week
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If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
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As for getting to the Q&A to ask questions, well I can tell you I've done that many times over the years and I've nearly always walked out knowing about the same as when I walked in. So please don't tell me I should get to the ground three hours early if I want to know what is going on. In any case, if the club is under a transfer embargo, it shouldn't be a matter of having to ask about it. I would have thought the new owners would want to show us what they're about by telling us how it has happened and what they intend to do about it.
Oi Den!
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11:54am Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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12:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
stigger
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12:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:yes he is, saw him on FL show this week missing a chance!
Wilesy, Martin is at Derby (unless there's another striker of the same name).
LeGod
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12:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13
I wonder if this Pack loan will go ahead or will he stay at Cheltenham or maybe he doesnt want to come any more or KM may look at other players.
the don69
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12:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Yes he's playing for Derby and he scored last night,but was given offside when he was onside,but as they say,that's football!!!!!!!!!
Wilesy, Martin is at Derby (unless there's another striker of the same name).
Steve. Brentford
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12:21pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
the don69
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12:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:And the important question Steve!which is the best Pub to go to before the match(haven't been to Brentford for a few years)!!!!!!!!!!
Oi Den! wrote:Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Steve. Brentford
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12:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:of not off
Oi Den! wrote:Strangely enough Den there is still plenty off free parking around Brentford unlike most other places in London,you can still park anywhere along Green Dragon Lane, that's the road where the Tower blocks are just avoid the curbs and you will be fine.
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
Steve. Brentford
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12:37pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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12:43pm Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red
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12:46pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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We hear repeatedly the phases like potless, cowboys and all sorts refering to them before they have even had a chance to do anything
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Granted prior Q&A's may have not been fuitful - but that doesn't mean future ones will be - they are different people after all
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Most people who have actually spoken to Jed seem to think he is an open, honest and genuine guy
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All i'm saying is lets cut them some slack - after all they DID save us from oblivion!
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Get behind the club and see if they are true to their word about driving us forward and taking us up
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1 week is not a time frame to judge on - end of the season and in to next is more of a realistic time to see how things have progressed
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I have a few questions which I bet others do - what is the current debt level? Has the JC issue been resolved? How serious is the issue relating to the embargo? When is this likely to be lifted?
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So lets see if they do answer it on Sat - I'm sure someone from these boards will be at the CG early and could ask the questions!
London Red
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12:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13
the don69
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12:52pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Thanks Steve!the Griffin Garden it is then!!!!!!!!!!!
Don,as you are probably aware Griffin park as a pub on all four corners of the ground and the Griffin pub is closest to the away end,to be honest none of the 4 pubs are out of bounds to away fans but they all get packed, well they did the last time we played there hope this helps and maybe i will see you in the garden of the Griffin,cheers.
avo
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1:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
hertz
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1:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13
the don69
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1:09pm Wed 6 Mar 13
avo wrote:Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
the wizard
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1:15pm Wed 6 Mar 13
The biz over the embargo is not a worry in my book, as the original embargo was lifted hence the loan signings of Pack etc. The problem lays with Big Ears Turner acting like a pillock. He will get his money and then we can all move on. These things take time and the new guys need time to come to grips with all that is going on, no doubt a whole raft more than what they are used to. Nick Watkins being politely shown the exit will not help, I thought it would have been prudent for him to stay in place until the end of the season, never mind its done now.
The whole bigger picture of SuperMac integrating with youth and players being brought on bodes well for me and the exploration of playing guys in different positions also shows a degree of imagination. With a whole different approach we may be able to save time and money on bringing in new faces.
Rebel_phish
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1:16pm Wed 6 Mar 13
oncearedalwaysared wrote:Shame on you, wishing ill on our rivals.!!!
On a brighter note, good to see both Doncaster and Brentford lost last night!!
Big match for us at the weekend and I don't mean Walsall.
Bournemouth v Doncaster. Could do with the Cherries putting one over on Donny. I don't really want Bournemouth to get 3 points, but I don't want Doncaster to get even 1 point.
Bournemouth could go 5 straight defeats (ha), but that would make catching Doncaster a little harder.
But then we need to get a win against Walsall....
Ooooo .... all the possibilities ....
Oi Den!
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1:17pm Wed 6 Mar 13
RedRich
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1:26pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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1:27pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred
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2:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13
the don69 wrote:With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.
avo wrote:Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.
swwindon61uk
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2:35pm Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:What questions do you intend to ask then LR?
Always the same few complaining!
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Give them a chance - they have only been in charge for a week!
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Last week it was moan moan moan over not having a manager - then bang one was hired within 24 hours
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Have you thopught KM is not worried as he has clearly said he wants to access the current squad (first team and youths) to see what he has and where he thinks extra cover might be needed
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He then has to identify those players - that takes time and as he said Monday was his first real day
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If we get a player or two in between Brentford and Yeovil I will be happy with that - especially as Rooney and Devera returning are like new signings and the return of Macca to midfield is like another signing!
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As for the "issues" ask the board directly - they are doing a Q&A in the Legends on sat at noon - get yourself down there see what is going on
I can not get down there as unfortunately (or fortunately as the case might be) i am working until 2pm.
swwindon61uk
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2:38pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Last season when we went by car we parked outside the away end.
Steve. Brentford wrote:Steve, I think there's only one - and he'll change his tune when he coughs up at the end of the season on the wager I'm going to have with him on his two favourite strikers!
Right, to all you lot who feel the need to call our players by female names,grow up and show some respect FFS the thing is most of this is being done by men over 40 and many over 50yrs old,come on its not clever.
SISTER STEVE.
(and don't think i missed that one Don)
Where's the best place to park in your neck of the woods nowadays? I vaguely remember parking near a newish development of flats and houses once - but that was about 20 years ago!
We were there very early though,like midday,but just jumped on the number 65 bus and went to Richmond where we had a couple of beers and some lunch.
Since 1950
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3:04pm Wed 6 Mar 13
avo wrote:Avo. I don't know if this is the 'old embargo or a new one. certainly I for one had assumed that the old embargo would have been lifted as part of the take over. Surely the take over wouldn't have been allowed to go ahead with an embargo in place.
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo? . I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it? . I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion? . Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
The article is written as if it were a 'new' embargo for sure. 'The Advertiser UNDERSTANDS the club are not in a position.... certainly gives the impression of a new embargo. If it were the old one then surely Sam would have said 'ongoin' or 'continuing' Embargo.
Either way it is very poor reporting and that was the point.
the don69
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3:07pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred wrote:I think most of us assumed(wrongly) that when the takeover went through we came out of the embargo,so questions must be asked?what is holding up the embargo lifting???????
the don69 wrote:With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.
avo wrote:Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.
joey butler
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3:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Perhaps he would be better back with us, even as an 'impact sub?'
He was scoring plenty of goals for Swindon this time last year and I don't think Cheltenham will release Pack now, after current embargo ends.
Ideally we would have Pack and Benson, but I guess life is never that easy!!
Oldhamred
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3:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13
the don69 wrote:I fully agree that questions should be asked; but I get the impression from how Jed has talked about incoming loanees that it is a fairly minor hiccup.
Oldhamred wrote:I think most of us assumed(wrongly) that when the takeover went through we came out of the embargo,so questions must be asked?what is holding up the embargo lifting???????
the don69 wrote:With respect Don, he didn't ask when Sam said we were IN embargo, he asked where it had been stated that we were OUT of embargo since the takeover had been ratified.
avo wrote:Sam has said on twitter,it should be sorted very soon and KM is already looking at targets,hope he's right!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have information on when it might have been made public that we were out of embargo?
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I still don't remember anything along those lines being said in any statements but I might have missed it?
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I can only assume lol, that some of our fans that were upset this morning to find we were still under embargo, did indeed themselves assume, that all in the garden was rosey at the point of the takeover completion?
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Like I said earlier, have I missed something? If so, when was it?
The answer is: It has NOT been stated that we have had the embargo lifted since the takeover.
I'm fairly certain that we can have confidence in what Jed says, afterall his word and actions have been positive to date.
I see no reason to doubt him, and as he has said loans could come in next week, that is good enough for me.
avo
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3:48pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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I agree with others that it would be nice though to now be told the reason behind this state of limbo.
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I also dismiss any panicky reaction though, as less than 7 days ago we went away to a team with promotion aspirations of their own, with a depleted squad, new manager a whopping 24 hours into a new role for both him and our beloved club, and a massive away following, played them off the park and bagged the 3 points.
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Nothing to panic about just yet.
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Obviously I hope it's lifted sooner rather than later, but I won't be pressing any alarm buttons on the back of this article.
smirg kcab
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3:51pm Wed 6 Mar 13
In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards
smirg kcab
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3:54pm Wed 6 Mar 13
See archive
avo
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3:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred
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4:02pm Wed 6 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo.
Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.
In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards
It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc.
I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning.
Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
smirg kcab
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4:22pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been lifted
smirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
smirg kcab
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4:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:Slippery sans words not mine cocky
Oldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been liftedsmirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
the don69
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4:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred wrote:I play the Euro-million's!Sadly I'm very disappointed after checking my ticket,that I can't afford to buy STFC!lol!!!!!!!!!!!
smirg kcab wrote:I remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo.
Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether.
In the adver by slippery Sam.
Onwards and upwards
It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc.
I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning.
Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
smirg kcab
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4:29pm Wed 6 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:Saying that he did say McCormick was signing that's twice now I believed this buffoon of a reporter.
smirg kcab wrote:Slippery sans words not mine cockyOldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been liftedsmirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Onwards and upwards cocky
Oldhamred
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4:37pm Wed 6 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:What's with the "cocky" comment?
smirg kcab wrote:Slippery sans words not mine cocky
Oldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been liftedsmirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
Very brave words behind a username.
You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously?
Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.
Oxon-Red
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4:40pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oldhamred wrote:I thought it was Sam MORShead :-)
smirg kcab wrote:What's with the "cocky" comment? Very brave words behind a username. You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously? Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.smirg kcab wrote:Slippery sans words not mine cockyOldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been liftedsmirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
COYMR
Since 1950
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4:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:NOT complaining London, just passing comment. That is what the comments section is for I believe.
If all opinions count then why is mine regrettable and appatrently the only one which is disrespectful? (when truthfully its far from that as I don't personally inuslt others like lots on here fall into!) . Surely if you don't agree you simply say so BUT add in why! . Unfortuntely too often on here people get into a hissy-fit when others disagree with them and claim people don't respoect others . Thats nonsence - its called debate - its simply differing view points discussing a topic . Why not come back with an actual arguement rather than personal insults? . What I said is true - look back over the comments and 1950 and Med are always complaining - thats not an insult its the truth! . I simply don't agree with bashing the new board and manager who have only been here for a week . If you think that is fine thats your choice - but back it up with actual reasons
Also I was not 'complaining' about any aspect of the club. What I was 'complaining' about was the shoddy journalism and the manner in which the latest embargo issue was reported.
That in a later post led me to ask what else wasn't being reported about the club.
Please get your facts right.
Thank you.
Oldhamred
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4:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oxon-Red wrote:I walked right into that one. lol ;-)
Oldhamred wrote:I thought it was Sam MORShead :-)
smirg kcab wrote:What's with the "cocky" comment? Very brave words behind a username. You post half of the article you are quoting and expect people to take you seriously? Furthermore, his name is Sam...D1ckhead.smirg kcab wrote:Slippery sans words not mine cockyOldhamred wrote:Swindon fans need not worry about that now, however, and the transfer embargo placed on Town during the takeover saga while an issue revolving around unpaid loan fees was resolved is now understood to have been liftedsmirg kcab wrote: Swindon are expected to be able to register new players once again following the sale of the club, but the Advertiser understands that moves for Marlon Pack, Danny Green and Bradley Wright-Phillips are close to breaking down altogether. In the adver by slippery Sam. Onwards and upwardsI remember this article, but it does NOT state that we out of embargo. It says Swindon are "expected" to be able to register new players etc etc etc. I play the national lottery every Saturday and I "expect" to buy a porsche 911 every Monday morning. Sadly, I'm very disappointed on Mondays.
COYMR
smirg kcab
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4:46pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Sorry jed we are in embargo
No can dooooooooo
Steve. Brentford
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5:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13
smirg kcab wrote:Yep it was this article that made me think we no longer had a embargo placed on us and i find it a little strange that words like "i will get on the phone now" can be used. Oh well never a dull day in the life of a town supporter.Embargo or not we are still in it at the moment so hopefully this will be sorted rather sharpish.
“I think it’s got to be Kevin’s decision as a manager, he may have a different view on how we play,” he said. “Let’s let him get the players if he wants Marlon and Danny then I’ll get on the phone now. I’ll do what he requires to get this team up.”
Sorry jed we are in embargo
No can dooooooooo
old town robin
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6:47pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Window closes 25th March, after which we still have seven games left to play, it would be great if Holland would be fit by then, but put my trust in Kevin to bring a midfielder and a striker in to help us get that automatic place.
London Red
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6:51pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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He clearly said when asked why us - I didn't want to see one of the football community go
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If that is not saving us from oblivion I don't know what is
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Yes they don't have the debt the previous board did (that's all of them as Fitton and Arbib have written off millions too) but if they didn't do he deal that was it - it wasn't going to be 10 points it was explosion!!!!!!!
avo
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7:25pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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Glad that's cleared that up then. There was me thinking we were all guilty of interpretation and assumption. My apologies.
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Admittedly, Jed did throw a spanner in the thought process with the 'i'll get on the phone now' comments.
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Jed, you're a bad man!
Oi Den!
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7:31pm Wed 6 Mar 13
And I wasn't suggesting it was only Black who had written off his debt. Black has told us that Arbib was always willing to write his loans off but Fitton was less happy to do so. I don't know whether Fitton was persuaded in the end.
swindon1969
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7:52pm Wed 6 Mar 13
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.
avo
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7:59pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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8:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13
swindon1969 wrote:Yep - all true. So what's the problem? (apart from people like me boring everyone senseless of course).
Oh dear oh deary me, is this sight not for debate on things that are Swindon Town related? Is it not the right for Town fans to have their say on what THEY believe is happening with this club? Its getting to the point where my say is better than yours, why? just got new owners, they KNOW what the score is give them time.
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.
London Red
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8:49pm Wed 6 Mar 13
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It has only been said the debt was written off - that's still leaves the equity!
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Now what that totals - who knows as we have not seen the accounts since the last few rights issues but in the last set of accounts it was over £2m
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We were led to believe AB put another £2m in so that could be as high as £4m - but did the split to A and B shares drastically reduce that value????
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So what Jed and Co paid to secure the equity????!!
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Jed clearly said he put his money in - so its clear to me he wasn't given he club as some seem to think he has been
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Guess that is another question to be posed - was equity transferred at face value? And what is the current share capital?
swindon1969
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9:01pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Nothing is boring, I just like reaseond debate, everyone has somthing to debate, just respect eveyone who has somthing sensable to say,without giving each other grief, we all support the same team. Is that not the point of this site, to debate?
swindon1969 wrote:Yep - all true. So what's the problem? (apart from people like me boring everyone senseless of course).
Oh dear oh deary me, is this sight not for debate on things that are Swindon Town related? Is it not the right for Town fans to have their say on what THEY believe is happening with this club? Its getting to the point where my say is better than yours, why? just got new owners, they KNOW what the score is give them time.
As for investers time will tell, there might be, or they might not be, but this new board have the clearence of the FL, so somthing must be in place for the next couple of years, it might be that they will cut costs, we dont Blo*dy know, give it time please.
Everyone on this site have the opportunity(sp) to express themselves, its open to debate, lets use this as tool to get things in prespective.
the wizard
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9:03pm Wed 6 Mar 13
London Red wrote:LR,
Den he either was persuaded or had a gun to his head - you decide which you think it was!
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It has only been said the debt was written off - that's still leaves the equity!
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Now what that totals - who knows as we have not seen the accounts since the last few rights issues but in the last set of accounts it was over £2m
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We were led to believe AB put another £2m in so that could be as high as £4m - but did the split to A and B shares drastically reduce that value????
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So what Jed and Co paid to secure the equity????!!
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Jed clearly said he put his money in - so its clear to me he wasn't given he club as some seem to think he has been
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Guess that is another question to be posed - was equity transferred at face value? And what is the current share capital?
I don't know how much this alters things but there was a sticking point on that last evening as the deadline came closer and closer, and that was Fitton would not "give" the money the club owed him. The way it was put to me was Black eventually had to negotiate a deal with Fitton, and Jed paid Black who then paid Fitton, very nip and tuck, how much that had a bearing on the final deal I don't know. When it came down to the last few hours a few things had to be sorted .
Its all done now, time to let the dust settle. I'll do my best to be in the LL for mid day on Saturday.
Mikey107
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9:24pm Wed 6 Mar 13
If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?
Another day in the life of a town fan
joey butler
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9:40pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Mikey107 wrote:So we cannot, even now, sign new players, or on loan?
Embargo?? I'm sorry but this was not made clear to the public, Jed himself said last week we are looking for new players and if k mac wanted pack or green then he'd get on the phone...
If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?
Another day in the life of a town fan
This makes the new Owners look very silly, if not a bunch of chancers.
''Ride a **** horse to Banbury Cross
To see a fine lady upon a white horse
With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes,
She shall have music wherever she goes''
Or no music!!.
joey butler
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9:43pm Wed 6 Mar 13
joey butler wrote:Or a horse with a very large diddler, will that pass the censors please?
Mikey107 wrote:So we cannot, even now, sign new players, or on loan?
Embargo?? I'm sorry but this was not made clear to the public, Jed himself said last week we are looking for new players and if k mac wanted pack or green then he'd get on the phone...
If it was common knowledge surely it would have been one of the main questions in last weeks q&a?
Another day in the life of a town fan
This makes the new Owners look very silly, if not a bunch of chancers.
''Ride a **** horse to Banbury Cross
To see a fine lady upon a white horse
With rings on her fingers and bells on her toes,
She shall have music wherever she goes''
Or no music!!.
Oi Den!
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9:49pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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9:57pm Wed 6 Mar 13
sp1dersw3b
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10:05pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:You both have been debating, squabbling, arguing, seething, posturing, crowing, digging, etc etc etc all day on this thread!
LR, I'm not sure equity has a face value, does it? The shares in the company are only worth whatever value is in the company - and that can't be much as we don't own the ground.
If I didn't know better you two must be married - reminds me of a bickering, bored, flameless marriage to me, always trying to have the last and final say!
I normally agree with most of LR's posts as it happens and the personal attacks are unsavoury and unnecessary, to say the least- and Den's are not so bad either but please guys or ladies, your tiffs in public are becoming quite embarrassing - LOL.
IMO only, of course - COYR's
Oi Den!
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10:28pm Wed 6 Mar 13
joey butler
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10:33pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Thank you Den, I really appreciate your comment.
Joey, I think you've hit the nail on the head. The new owners may be doing everything right for all we know, but if so they are not getting their message across, and so they do run the risk of looking silly.
The Jockster
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10:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:"Hang down your head Sam Morshead hang down your head and cry, hang down your head Sam Morshead.....etc Apologies to Tom Dooley!!
The Adver should hang its head in shame.
The club is at the dawn of a new era and a matter of huge importance is mentioned in a footnote as if it's merely incidental.
Tell us what these "issues" are. And why not do some investigation into who is supposed to be funding the club - and how?
Meanwhile, let's see if we can find a scapegoat... Ah yes, it's that nasty Football League again, or perhaps that nasty Shrewsbury Town...
Take 100 lines Samuel " I must endeavour to report important information about the club that I'm supposed to be a life long supporter of"
Pewsham Red
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10:54pm Wed 6 Mar 13
eastmidsred wrote:Is an embargo a glitch? Quite a serious one I would suggest. Certainly not going to blame new guys but I would think that this is something that needs sorting sooner than later.
For God's sake stop all the moaning and criticising. These guys have just taken over, there are bound to be glitches and a few unknowns that come out of the woodwork at this early stage. Give them a chance to sort it. I'm sure the transfer embargo will be short term. Having gone through all this upheaval in the last few weeks, I'd rather be in our shoes now than Portsmouth, Leicester and a whole bunch of other clubs. Jed and Kev have started extremely well.
the wizard
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11:16pm Wed 6 Mar 13
If there is a squabble it is surely between who is liable for the monies owed for Collins, probably Jed saying its Blacks debt and he should pay, while Black says you now own the club and took on its responsibilities.
the don69
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8:46am Thu 7 Mar 13
sp1dersw3b wrote:Caught in the sp1dersw3b chaps,or the the black widow's web!LOL!!!!!!!
Oi Den! wrote:You both have been debating, squabbling, arguing, seething, posturing, crowing, digging, etc etc etc all day on this thread!
LR, I'm not sure equity has a face value, does it? The shares in the company are only worth whatever value is in the company - and that can't be much as we don't own the ground.
If I didn't know better you two must be married - reminds me of a bickering, bored, flameless marriage to me, always trying to have the last and final say!
I normally agree with most of LR's posts as it happens and the personal attacks are unsavoury and unnecessary, to say the least- and Den's are not so bad either but please guys or ladies, your tiffs in public are becoming quite embarrassing - LOL.
IMO only, of course - COYR's

smirg kcab says...
6:41am Wed 6 Mar 13
News to me
O&u