McCrory leaves the door open for Black return (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
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McCrory leaves the door open for Black return
6:00am Monday 4th March 2013 in Sport By Sam Morshead
Town chairman Jed McCrory
SWINDON Town chairman Jed McCrory has left the door open for former majority shareholder Andrew Black to return to the club.
Black sold his 98 per cent stake in the Robins to McCrory’s Seebeck 87 Limited last Thursday, ending a five-year association with the County Ground club.
The Betfair co-founder released an intriguing statement over social networking website Twitter in which he opened up about a turbulent and fragile final 18 months at the helm of Town - but despite those revelations McCrory hopes he may consider investing in the club in the future.
“I’d like to thank Andrew Black because I thought he was impeccable,” he said.
“He was a man of his word on a handshake which I respect massively because I think that’s a trait that’s gone down a little bit over the years.
“I would welcome him back here any day of the week. Of course I would. You can’t not have people like Andrew.
“It’s not the money side of things; he’s such an intelligent guy and such a caring guy for the community.
“I don’t think that was ever portrayed properly.
“I don’t think people realised how much he liked this club and wanted to grow the club in certain areas.
“I think it’s a real shame. He’s missed an opportunity and hopefully he’ll come back. Swindon Town Football Club would be a much better place with people like Andrew associated to it and I would welcome anybody who wants to take the football club forward.
“The football club is a huge part of the community and if we don’t support football clubs where have the kids got to go nowadays?”
McCrory was at the Ricoh Arena on Saturday to oversee his first victory as chairman, as Town came from behind to win for the first time this season.
Newly-appointed manager Kevin MacDonald got off to a triumphant start thanks to late goals from Andy Williams and former caretaker boss Darren Ward in a 2-1 win at Coventry.
Comments(84)
Psychedelic Syd
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9:05am Mon 4 Mar 13
I reckon our old ego-mad Italian caused far more problems backstage than any of us fully realised. It must have been extremely difficult for Balck and the board. I used to think Wray was a hero but now I can see the problems that his weakness with Paolo must have caused. Rock and a hard place. Still think Black's timing was irresponsible and avoidable but then I'm not in full possesssion of the facts and I don't think we ever will know the complete picture. Onwards and upwards.
International Robin2
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9:39am Mon 4 Mar 13
pat.swindon.f.c.
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9:44am Mon 4 Mar 13
Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement.
Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way.
COYR
Oi Den!
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9:49am Mon 4 Mar 13
NewburyRobin
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10:14am Mon 4 Mar 13
I went to The Ricoh & stayed overnight in the hotel, what a fantastic atmosphere mixing & chatting to the Coventry fans before & after the game down in the casino. It was like a breath of fresh air not being segregated. Didn't manage to see Ernie Hunt though which was a shame. What a difference in prices too, we ate in The gallery restaurant & we would have paid double that here in Newbury.
All the Coventry fans spoke very highly of Kevin Mac & so pleased for him & the players to have got the result that we thoroughly deserved.
I was sorry to hear from the Coventry fans that Coventry FC get no revenue from the casino, reataurants etc & only get gate receipts. I don't know the politics of it but I did see a plaque that said the stadium was built by Coventry City Council. If we were ever get to have a stadium as wonderful as The Ricoh I hope we would not end up in that situation.
NewburyRobin
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10:17am Mon 4 Mar 13
Rogersforengland
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10:25am Mon 4 Mar 13
International Robin2 wrote:Patey did the job he was asked to do, not make friends at the club but to find new buyers. It's always been clear to me that Paolo over spent and often wasted good money then kept insisting on more and by wasted i mean get players, fall out with them and move them on. We will never know the true financial cost of Paolo's decisions but maybe one of them was losing Mr Black, who as other say put real money into the club and got us where we are today
Don't think Black was the problem, I think the problems really started when Patey turned up
Since 1950
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10:27am Mon 4 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Maybe it's just the 'few million quid' thats' behind it Den.
I will never understand why a man who has given so much to our club has been painted as a villain. A debt-free club at the top of the table is about as good as a legacy can get for us. As for the timing, I'm not sure there's ever a good time to lose a major benefactor like Black. If he contacted McCrory now, bearing another few million quid, I know I wouldn't turn him away. We've never had it so good as we did under Black and co. I would be surprised if we ever have it so good again.
Since 1950
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10:29am Mon 4 Mar 13
International Robin2 wrote:It's obvious to me International that Patey wa brought in to break up the PDC/Wray partnership and to sow the seeds for Paolo's exit.
Don't think Black was the problem, I think the problems really started when Patey turned up
STFCman&boy1973
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10:47am Mon 4 Mar 13
pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:you don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post, I agree with most of the rest though, I think we will hear the full story in good time...
It appears certain had it not been for the profligacy of Di Canio Black would not have left in the manner he did.Di Canio though should have been much more closely controlled by Wray.Both Di Canio and Wray were passionate about the Club.Canio bringing good football,training methods,and disciplinepity he,again,failed to control his own discipline,surely his downfall throughout his playing career and long list of clubs he fell out with?Unless he changes the same will apply in his Management career. Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement. Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way. COYR
sadgit
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11:10am Mon 4 Mar 13
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:STFC
pat.swindon.f.c. wrote: It appears certain had it not been for the profligacy of Di Canio Black would not have left in the manner he did.Di Canio though should have been much more closely controlled by Wray.Both Di Canio and Wray were passionate about the Club.Canio bringing good football,training methods,and disciplinepity he,again,failed to control his own discipline,surely his downfall throughout his playing career and long list of clubs he fell out with?Unless he changes the same will apply in his Management career. Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement. Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way. COYRyou don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post, I agree with most of the rest though, I think we will hear the full story in good time...
So how would you account for the amount of missfits PDC aquired?
Another view
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11:16am Mon 4 Mar 13
We were going nowhere and PDC was the firecracker that woke up this whole club from its slumbers. Unfortunately firecrackers in close proximity can do as much harm as provide excitement.
We are where we are. PDC did the job he was paid to do, and Jed appears to be now calming everyone down, while keeping the momentum going.
DarrenSTFCRomain
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11:34am Mon 4 Mar 13
sadgit wrote:you don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post,
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:STFC So how would you account for the amount of missfits PDC aquired?pat.swindon.f.c. wrote: It appears certain had it not been for the profligacy of Di Canio Black would not have left in the manner he did.Di Canio though should have been much more closely controlled by Wray.Both Di Canio and Wray were passionate about the Club.Canio bringing good football,training methods,and disciplinepity he,again,failed to control his own discipline,surely his downfall throughout his playing career and long list of clubs he fell out with?Unless he changes the same will apply in his Management career. Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement. Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way. COYRyou don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post, I agree with most of the rest though, I think we will hear the full story in good time...
Thats why when we never had enough players to fill the bench he STILL left Benson and Rooney out of the hole squade...WHY
themoonraker
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12:04pm Mon 4 Mar 13
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:Oh yes, of course, recommendation by agent and video footage of players is by far the best way to sign players!
pat.swindon.f.c. wrote:you don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post, I agree with most of the rest though, I think we will hear the full story in good time...
It appears certain had it not been for the profligacy of Di Canio Black would not have left in the manner he did.Di Canio though should have been much more closely controlled by Wray.Both Di Canio and Wray were passionate about the Club.Canio bringing good football,training methods,and disciplinepity he,again,failed to control his own discipline,surely his downfall throughout his playing career and long list of clubs he fell out with?Unless he changes the same will apply in his Management career. Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement. Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way. COYR
John Young's Grumpy
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12:08pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Our new Board were there sat behind me.
I have to say it was genuinely refreshing to watch our new Chairman and his colleagues in their enthusiasm throughout the game and afterwards as they moved down to stand above the tunnel and applaud the team as they went in. Then they were across to the corner of the Directors Box and applauding the fans.
"Just look at that, look at them all". It was an impressive turn out and I think all you fans who were there have added to their (I presume) already assured feeling they have invested in the right football club!!!
If the door is open and AB returns or wants to then all ok with me because he will want to be coming back to the Fans and a Club as described above!!
Afcb4life
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12:49pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Davidsyrett
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12:51pm Mon 4 Mar 13
International Robin2 wrote:Patey was bought in by Black to find a buyer for the club, how can he have possibly been the problem? if it had not been for him we may not of had a club at all.
Don't think Black was the problem, I think the problems really started when Patey turned up
The only issue I can see is that Patey put his foot down with PdC and told him exactly what he was, an employee! and we are all the better off for him saying so.
Swindonboy
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1:07pm Mon 4 Mar 13
dreamofacleansheet2
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1:09pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Don't see him as so prolifrigate this year. Can't see the point of continually bashing him. Just as KM isn't the Messiah after one game, neither has PDC become a bad manager just because he left us. You can debate the rights and wrongs of the board to give him the money and the rights and wrongs of him leaving but let's be clear he changed standards around here.
Of course as many have pointed out there may be better ways than managing by fear but let's be clear his contribution to the turn around of this club was immense. As was Blacks and as will Jed and Co if they continue as they have started.
They are performing way beyond my expectations and I salute them for it. Like Den i would like them to disclose who mystery backers are as i don't see secrecy as beng helpful. but other than that, magnificent start. Can't wait for Saturday, really looking forward to it.
Blazing Riff
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1:10pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:...and you are a small tin of potted crab which has undoubtedly gone off...a bit like your team!
Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fans
Park North Red
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1:11pm Mon 4 Mar 13
BournemouthRobin
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1:12pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:Porchester school break for lunchtime?
Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fans
Doctor red
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1:19pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Youv'e been told, your welcome back
The new regime is working well,
but fair to say only time will tell,
The fans turned out in force that day,
Don't you think you'd want to stay?
Not long to go till seasons end
Come back now and help us my friend
It is true you may have some more money to spend!
But proud of you, that we are still here some more dosh now, help Jed buy the beer!
Come back now!!!
We are Maccers
RED AND BLACK ARMY!
The Doc
Since 1950
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1:20pm Mon 4 Mar 13
BournemouthRobin wrote:Haaa. Quote of the season. Outstanding!
Afcb4life wrote: Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fansPorchester school break for lunchtime?
When was the last time your 'tin pot club' took 3,000 fans away for a league match?
By the way. How's your season working out for ya since you got Ritchie?
Smart move that.
Now, run along and get your school lunch.
Lambourn Red
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1:31pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:How embarrassing for you trying to drum up a rivalry with a bigger team , I guess it is difficult to drum up debate on your own forum with the level of forgetfulness of the coffin dodgers who frequent it.
Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fans
I see that agent Ritchie is really doing an impressive job and the messiah Eddie Howe proving what a bottler he is again.
BournemouthRobin
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1:58pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Since 1950 wrote:Cheers 1950 - great to see we got £500k in exchange for sending a player to sabotage our rivals promotion chances too!!
BournemouthRobin wrote:Haaa. Quote of the season. Outstanding!
Afcb4life wrote: Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fansPorchester school break for lunchtime?
When was the last time your 'tin pot club' took 3,000 fans away for a league match?
By the way. How's your season working out for ya since you got Ritchie?
Smart move that.
Now, run along and get your school lunch.
Nevermind AFCB4death - maybe you should align your club rivalries with the Poppies instead, more equivalent crowds numbers I hear and not as far for you to skateboard back to Hamworthy
London Red
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2:23pm Mon 4 Mar 13
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He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
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Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
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As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
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I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
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As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
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I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
billbst
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2:25pm Mon 4 Mar 13
STFCman&boy1973
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2:26pm Mon 4 Mar 13
sadgit wrote:Good point, like Hollands, Martin, thompsons, collins, Wes, Williams, ward, Benson, some very bad players there, and in the beginning he did buy some bad players, but he learnt from it...
STFCman&boy1973 wrote:STFC
pat.swindon.f.c. wrote: It appears certain had it not been for the profligacy of Di Canio Black would not have left in the manner he did.Di Canio though should have been much more closely controlled by Wray.Both Di Canio and Wray were passionate about the Club.Canio bringing good football,training methods,and disciplinepity he,again,failed to control his own discipline,surely his downfall throughout his playing career and long list of clubs he fell out with?Unless he changes the same will apply in his Management career. Well done McCrory,so far,and another positive step in this Statement. Brilliant choice of Manager.He will have some bad results,no doubt,when he will require support from the Board and fans.Right now everything is fantastic after the disappointment of Bury.But that was a blessing in disguise in bringing in immediately Kevin McDonald and Mark Cooper,two very experienced and talented coaches who I am sure will give much more stability to the Club.It is the very welcome calm after the storm left by Di Canio.Now just need two or three good loanees to see us through.I am sure they will be carefully selected unlike the Di Canio way. COYRyou don't have a clue if you think PDC just picked players willy nilly, he was so methodical in his selection, stupid bit of the post, I agree with most of the rest though, I think we will hear the full story in good time...
So how would you account for the amount of missfits PDC aquired?
My point was that he didn't just pick players....this shouldn't be what were talking about, we should be talking about, the great result Saturday and how were going to win this league...
I think we can win it still...
dreamofacleansheet2
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2:44pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Oi Den!
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3:00pm Mon 4 Mar 13
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"Does knowing their names really change anything?" Yes, it does. It gives the whole thing substance.
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I agree with you that it would be good to have some detail on the "model" but I don't see why you have to rank that and say it's more important than knowing who the investors are. To me, it is all part of the same thing and all the detail is equally important. I will continue to feel uneasy until we know more about what is going on.
After the unwarranted abuse Black received, I'd be amazed if he had the slightest inclination towards getting involved again.
the don69
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3:13pm Mon 4 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Agree with that LR!Fans like communication and Black never explained didley sh1t about anything at any time!the only time he did sing like a canary!was on twitter,when the deal was done!but now we move on,a fresh start I'd like to know the true facts about how much debt,Jed and his gang have taken on?and what is the exact number the last board have written off?and yes I'd like details of this magic Model,but for me the most important Model in football,is the wage BILL and Budget,keeping it under control and bloody sticking to it!because we all know what happens when the board loses control of it's budget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
.
He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
.
Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
.
As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
.
I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
.
As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
.
I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
!
smirg kcab
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3:18pm Mon 4 Mar 13
The futures black.
The futures administration.(his words not ours)
Onwards and upwards (without him )
FORZASTFC
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3:25pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:WHAT A MORON!
Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fans
Where are you in the league, LOL can't see you from all the way up here & you SCUM down there? :-)
RED-MERLIN
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4:04pm Mon 4 Mar 13
BournemouthRobin wrote:JUST BECAUSE YOUR LOSING !!!!
Afcb4life wrote:Porchester school break for lunchtime?
Shame ur a small tin pot club with a crap set of fans
Afcb4life
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4:18pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Cheers for matt Richie for 500k
Wilesy
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4:21pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:What if the backers are Oxford based? They may like to remain anonymous.
LR, I suppose it all comes down to what you prefer. I would much rather we have a known benefactor who sits happily in the background and appoints people to run the show than have mystery people who are "ready to invest". . "Does knowing their names really change anything?" Yes, it does. It gives the whole thing substance. . I agree with you that it would be good to have some detail on the "model" but I don't see why you have to rank that and say it's more important than knowing who the investors are. To me, it is all part of the same thing and all the detail is equally important. I will continue to feel uneasy until we know more about what is going on. After the unwarranted abuse Black received, I'd be amazed if he had the slightest inclination towards getting involved again.
Wouldn't rule out a return for Black at some point. Great he has written off the millions, but if he is presented with a credible case of put in £x and get out £xx then why not. He's a businessman and money talks.
Black got abuse because of lack of communication as simple as that. Still hasn't fully explained exactly the reason for the panic sale, and probably (and quite sensibly) won't with the PDC solicitors on standby.
BournemouthRobin
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4:54pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:Porchester school home time now??
Ur team is crap and full of foreign players we currently don't have one watch when we get are captain back we will be auto or play offs position unlike u inbreads
Cheers for matt Richie for 500k
Really now Afcb4death, is your school letting you down again?
To label others as 'inbreads' is really not good now is it? I've never been sat in a loaf of bread - I assume that is what you mean, after all you are so intelligent that you would know the correct word is 'inbred'??
'Are captain' - I believe you mean 'Our captain'?? (actually your's but you get the point).
Full of foreign players - not only are they neglecting your spelling at Porchester but now they are neglecting your mathematics too - we have one foreign player - now I know I'm not a maths genius like yourself but I'm sure 1 in 11 (or 18 for a squad) does not constitute 'full'.
Finally - where abouts is 7th these days in comparison to 3rd???
Can only give you a C- for the work you have produced - effort alone would get you a B- but more originality in your work is required.
Now skate off back to Hamworthy - there's a good chap!!
alchafreds
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4:56pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:you still here w@nker
Ur team is crap and full of foreign players we currently don't have one watch when we get are captain back we will be auto or play offs position unlike u inbreads
Cheers for matt Richie for 500k
TheDukeOfBanbury
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4:59pm Mon 4 Mar 13
John Young's Grumpy wrote:I was just along from you then (to the left as you were looking on to the pitch).
I had the privelidge of being hosted by Jaguar at the Ricoh arena and which involved seats in the Directors Box.
Our new Board were there sat behind me.
I have to say it was genuinely refreshing to watch our new Chairman and his colleagues in their enthusiasm throughout the game and afterwards as they moved down to stand above the tunnel and applaud the team as they went in. Then they were across to the corner of the Directors Box and applauding the fans.
"Just look at that, look at them all". It was an impressive turn out and I think all you fans who were there have added to their (I presume) already assured feeling they have invested in the right football club!!!
If the door is open and AB returns or wants to then all ok with me because he will want to be coming back to the Fans and a Club as described above!!
You must of heard / seen me jumping around like an idiot when we scored :)
Impressive stadium.
Went down to see Jed after the game and had a great chat.
Fabulous day and like a home game being so close.
therock4u
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5:04pm Mon 4 Mar 13
alchafreds wrote:How are you doing right now. What is it 4 straight losses.
Afcb4life wrote:you still here w@nker
Ur team is crap and full of foreign players we currently don't have one watch when we get are captain back we will be auto or play offs position unlike u inbreads
Cheers for matt Richie for 500k
And what a bargain Richie has turned out to be, One millon spent on 2 players with 31 team members and still cant win.
Think you will need more people attending your home matches to pay for wages.
Seem to remember you lost to Coventry at home,and theyre playing rubbish, says a lot about your team.
Oi Den!
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5:12pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Was it a panic sale? Black has said that he wanted to sell in mid 2011, so it was hardly a sudden decision. But I always thought PDC was pushing his luck with his constant threats and accusations towards the board. There was all the talk about him walking out, being poached etc, but it was rarely suggested that he could actually be shown the door. Maybe Black would have stayed with us if he thought he could have survived the political fallout from sacking PDC?
As regards any legal action, if my information concerning the PDC dead of night office visit is correct, we could be in for some entertainment if the CCTV footage ever gets into the public domain!
Afcb4life
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5:13pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afc bournemouth best in the south
BournemouthRobin
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5:20pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:Afcb4death - please read my last post to you and do not return until your homework is corrected.
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
Bournemouth - best team in the south??
You are barely the best team in Dorset. I think probably Southampton are the best team on the south coast - however you could not really mention that on their site as you would hear them laughing in Aberdeen!!!
PS - What exactly is a crap cub, or is that what your group leader just referred to you as???
Now, how is Hamworthy today - any buses bean set fire to yet today???
BournemouthRobin
says...
5:23pm Mon 4 Mar 13
BournemouthRobin wrote:PS - where's your money come from, where's your money from??? Certainly not your huge crowds in the three sided stadium.
Afcb4life wrote:Afcb4death - please read my last post to you and do not return until your homework is corrected.
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
Bournemouth - best team in the south??
You are barely the best team in Dorset. I think probably Southampton are the best team on the south coast - however you could not really mention that on their site as you would hear them laughing in Aberdeen!!!
PS - What exactly is a crap cub, or is that what your group leader just referred to you as???
Now, how is Hamworthy today - any buses bean set fire to yet today???
Best worry if your dodgy Russian pulls out!!!
street2000
says...
5:24pm Mon 4 Mar 13
DarrenSTFCRomain
says...
5:35pm Mon 4 Mar 13
????
swwindon61uk
says...
5:49pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Bit by bit,little comment here little comment here and we are seeing more revaluations.
Pottered
says...
5:54pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:Illiterate and mentally retarded. Please understand that, your also"SICK IN THE HEAD"
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
Wilesy
says...
5:56pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Oi Den! wrote:Den I agree with most of that. Di Canio has I think pushed Black and the board too far with both his comments and 'no choice' summer contract signing, and has been carefully managed out with compensation nicely avoided. Can't see PDC getting any compo here with all that's happened as I've previously posted but he may well have been suckered into the resignation trap.
Wilesy, I don't see why we need communication direct from the owners. A chairman is appointed to do that for them. Until a few months ago most of us had no idea that Black was propping the club up single-handedly. He clearly wasn't looking for any plaudits for doing that, as quite obviously he's a quiet man who shuns the limelight.
Was it a panic sale? Black has said that he wanted to sell in mid 2011, so it was hardly a sudden decision. But I always thought PDC was pushing his luck with his constant threats and accusations towards the board. There was all the talk about him walking out, being poached etc, but it was rarely suggested that he could actually be shown the door. Maybe Black would have stayed with us if he thought he could have survived the political fallout from sacking PDC?
As regards any legal action, if my information concerning the PDC dead of night office visit is correct, we could be in for some entertainment if the CCTV footage ever gets into the public domain!
Black and Patey were unlikely to give a threat of dismissal, Paolo probably would walked there and then the ego would not have liked that.
Not sure how real the threat of administration was either - would Black really have let us like that if such a 'nice guy who cares for the community'? But from the outside with no reason given why it appeared very hasty.
avo
says...
5:59pm Mon 4 Mar 13
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Plug it in son, and trundle off to bingo....
Wilesy
says...
6:03pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Oi Den!
says...
6:04pm Mon 4 Mar 13
swwindon61uk
says...
6:10pm Mon 4 Mar 13
John Young's Grumpy wrote:That is really nice to hear,just hope Jed and Co realise we do not take 3000 plus to every game!
I had the privelidge of being hosted by Jaguar at the Ricoh arena and which involved seats in the Directors Box.
Our new Board were there sat behind me.
I have to say it was genuinely refreshing to watch our new Chairman and his colleagues in their enthusiasm throughout the game and afterwards as they moved down to stand above the tunnel and applaud the team as they went in. Then they were across to the corner of the Directors Box and applauding the fans.
"Just look at that, look at them all". It was an impressive turn out and I think all you fans who were there have added to their (I presume) already assured feeling they have invested in the right football club!!!
If the door is open and AB returns or wants to then all ok with me because he will want to be coming back to the Fans and a Club as described above!!
stfc2012
says...
6:23pm Mon 4 Mar 13
London Red
says...
6:24pm Mon 4 Mar 13
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The model would outline how the board believe the club can be moved forward and more than likely become self sufficent - otherwise why would others be interested in joining later on?
.
To me that is far more important than have X to look up on wiki - as if you are honest that is all we will do with that info and then what?
.
Black told us nothing - so did knowing his name really benefit us?
.
The answer is clearly no as otherwise he wouldn't have been portrayed incorrectly
.
To me this is no different now than before with Jed simply becoming Fitton - both put together a group to invest led by their initial funding
.
To answer the question on was it a desperate sale yes it was and its been well documented that the process didn't start until Jan 2013
.
Yes he initially looked to sell before but when that fell through he agreed to another year - but "changed his mind" in Jan
.
That's when it was sell by 31st or bust scenario came into play and people came sniffing thinking they could pick up the aftermath of administration
.
It's that bit with no explanation as to why people are hacked off with him - a simple clear explanation could go along way of "restoring" his reputation around the town
davel4848
says...
7:01pm Mon 4 Mar 13
avo wrote:You sure you're on the right forum ?
The blue rinse boys are back again. Flat battery on the mobility scooter is it?
.
Plug it in son, and trundle off to bingo....
Explain please.
35 year fan
says...
7:10pm Mon 4 Mar 13
if in doubt, read his twitter postings.
TheDukeOfBanbury
says...
7:24pm Mon 4 Mar 13
35 year fan wrote:....I didn't enjoy his last weeks at Swindon either threatening us with immediate closure if "his" rushed deal had not have gone through.
i'll let you (and jed) into a seret. black has not enjoyed his experience of owning stfc. and he wont be getting involved with any football club ever again. if in doubt, read his twitter postings.
Pity he will be remembered by some on his final weeks rather than his start where he funded our club and it looked a great future and prospect.
Very sad when it all ended so sour.
Time to move on now.
Don't think Mr Black will be involved with football as you say and think he will continue to be involved in his love, horse racing.
Still can't believe why he got involved in the first place.
Steve. Brentford
says...
7:37pm Mon 4 Mar 13
avo wrote:You will get a walking stick across you`re ar$e young man :O)
The blue rinse boys are back again. Flat battery on the mobility scooter is it?
.
Plug it in son, and trundle off to bingo....
Oi Den!
says...
7:52pm Mon 4 Mar 13
All I can say to that is that it feels very different to me. With the Fitton consortium right from the off we knew who we were getting and we knew what we were getting.
I know I'll be accused of being negative, doom-mongering etc but that's not the case at all.
As you know, I always thought we'd never been in better hands than we were with the Fitton group (despite the fact that they bullshiitted us over the ground redevelopment). To get that lucky twice on the trot would be pretty remarkable. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that everything would feel a lot more solid if we knew who's involved and what they are putting in.
I won't debate this point any further - not out of any disrespect for other people's views but because I know I'm getting boring again. I suppose we just have to await the proof of the pudding.
melnursesear.
says...
8:23pm Mon 4 Mar 13
the wizard
says...
8:48pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Cookie43
says...
8:55pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Pottered wrote:ha ha ha ha
Afcb4life wrote:Illiterate and mentally retarded. Please understand that, your also"SICK IN THE HEAD"
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
you really are one sad sad t.wat
when was the last time you took over 3000 to an away league match?
come to think of it when was the last time you won a game?
actually you spend so much time on here you are totally obsessed with swindon town.
come saturday my sad little no life friend you will be 7 points behind us
loose against doncaster then you are in a crisis!!!
let me tell you something we at swindon to not see your little seaside club as a rival to us we couldnt give a toss about your non league club punching slightly above your weight.
i heard a rumour that if you do not get promotion this year the ruskies are gone!!
Pewsham Red
says...
9:22pm Mon 4 Mar 13
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Pewsham Red
says...
9:23pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Cookie43 wrote:I don't know why you bother Cookie, this lad clearly hasn't got a full deck. Too easy.
Pottered wrote:ha ha ha ha
Afcb4life wrote:Illiterate and mentally retarded. Please understand that, your also"SICK IN THE HEAD"
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
you really are one sad sad t.wat
when was the last time you took over 3000 to an away league match?
come to think of it when was the last time you won a game?
actually you spend so much time on here you are totally obsessed with swindon town.
come saturday my sad little no life friend you will be 7 points behind us
loose against doncaster then you are in a crisis!!!
let me tell you something we at swindon to not see your little seaside club as a rival to us we couldnt give a toss about your non league club punching slightly above your weight.
i heard a rumour that if you do not get promotion this year the ruskies are gone!!
Cookie43
says...
9:29pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Pewsham Red wrote:yeah your right pewsham still fun to wind him up!!
Cookie43 wrote:I don't know why you bother Cookie, this lad clearly hasn't got a full deck. Too easy.
Pottered wrote:ha ha ha ha
Afcb4life wrote:Illiterate and mentally retarded. Please understand that, your also"SICK IN THE HEAD"
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
you really are one sad sad t.wat
when was the last time you took over 3000 to an away league match?
come to think of it when was the last time you won a game?
actually you spend so much time on here you are totally obsessed with swindon town.
come saturday my sad little no life friend you will be 7 points behind us
loose against doncaster then you are in a crisis!!!
let me tell you something we at swindon to not see your little seaside club as a rival to us we couldnt give a toss about your non league club punching slightly above your weight.
i heard a rumour that if you do not get promotion this year the ruskies are gone!!
the wizard
says...
9:35pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Pewsham Red wrote:I asked the same question last week, never seen him so up for the challenge.
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Maybe now the fear has gone the players will open up and express themselves better, I hope so anyway.
Pewsham Red
says...
9:49pm Mon 4 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:Could have a point there Wiz. I thought Alan Mac had his best game for a while too, so maybe a different managerial approach is having a positive effect. Certainly seems from Williams comments that Macdonalds approach is being received better.
Pewsham Red wrote:I asked the same question last week, never seen him so up for the challenge.
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Maybe now the fear has gone the players will open up and express themselves better, I hope so anyway.
the wizard
says...
9:56pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Pewsham Red wrote:Well in my experience, you treat somebody decent and with respect you get on better and from a management point of view they do more and try to bring in suggestions and fresh ideas. I'd love to see some of that too, here is to hope, he says raising a glass, OK its milk but I am allowed.
the wizard wrote:Could have a point there Wiz. I thought Alan Mac had his best game for a while too, so maybe a different managerial approach is having a positive effect. Certainly seems from Williams comments that Macdonalds approach is being received better.
Pewsham Red wrote:I asked the same question last week, never seen him so up for the challenge.
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Maybe now the fear has gone the players will open up and express themselves better, I hope so anyway.
mancrobin
says...
9:57pm Mon 4 Mar 13
London Red wrote:I feel this is an interesting but slightly pointless debate. Let's be honest, we don't know why Black bought into the Club in the first place and we don't really know why he felt he needed an urgent sale.
Den - I stick by my point that the model is more important as that would actually answer your burning question - why invest at all!!!!
.
The model would outline how the board believe the club can be moved forward and more than likely become self sufficent - otherwise why would others be interested in joining later on?
.
To me that is far more important than have X to look up on wiki - as if you are honest that is all we will do with that info and then what?
.
Black told us nothing - so did knowing his name really benefit us?
.
The answer is clearly no as otherwise he wouldn't have been portrayed incorrectly
.
To me this is no different now than before with Jed simply becoming Fitton - both put together a group to invest led by their initial funding
.
To answer the question on was it a desperate sale yes it was and its been well documented that the process didn't start until Jan 2013
.
Yes he initially looked to sell before but when that fell through he agreed to another year - but "changed his mind" in Jan
.
That's when it was sell by 31st or bust scenario came into play and people came sniffing thinking they could pick up the aftermath of administration
.
It's that bit with no explanation as to why people are hacked off with him - a simple clear explanation could go along way of "restoring" his reputation around the town
We don't really know why Jed has bought into the Club nor who most of his backers are.
And I doubt if we are likely to get sight of the business model either as it is likely that it will have about as much substance as an air fix model. Like most of the other clubs around us.
So let's be thankful that we're Swindon and not poor old Coventry today. We're solvent (on paper), we've got a manager, we're not on the verge of being evicted, oh, and we won on Saturday.
The only way we can seriously get into the ownership debate is to become part owners ourselves. I was hoping that the Trust would lead the way on this. If nothing else, we would then know who all the investors were and we would get a say in the business model. (Probably still air fix).
Another view
says...
9:57pm Mon 4 Mar 13
The kitty might not be that deep and we might not get it so easy against the form teams such as Walsall. At the moment we're just enjoying whatever good news comes our way. Long may it continue...but for how long??
sp1dersw3b
says...
10:14pm Mon 4 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:There is a fine balance between fear, respect and taking responsibility.
Pewsham Red wrote:I asked the same question last week, never seen him so up for the challenge.
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Maybe now the fear has gone the players will open up and express themselves better, I hope so anyway.
The lads were fantastic on Saturday.
KMac's calmness, the players determination and Paolo's fitness IMO only, helped win the game.
The underlying suggestions that seems to be hinted by some well known anti previous management regime is the 'without fear' element assisted greatly in the win.
Could well be the case but I am hoping KMac will be disciplined in his own way or else the players will rule!
Discipline, with allowing the players to express themselves, could be key over the next few weeks.
So please do not dismiss a fear element as part of possible future success.
Need the away support at home too!
COYR's
the wizard
says...
10:26pm Mon 4 Mar 13
sp1dersw3b wrote:I hope to be there Saturday in FULL supportive voice.
the wizard wrote:There is a fine balance between fear, respect and taking responsibility.
Pewsham Red wrote:I asked the same question last week, never seen him so up for the challenge.
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:Bit early to tell, I reckon, but I thought he was excellent on Saturday.
Is it just me or do other think that Miller is playing better now pdc has gone...
????
Maybe now the fear has gone the players will open up and express themselves better, I hope so anyway.
The lads were fantastic on Saturday.
KMac's calmness, the players determination and Paolo's fitness IMO only, helped win the game.
The underlying suggestions that seems to be hinted by some well known anti previous management regime is the 'without fear' element assisted greatly in the win.
Could well be the case but I am hoping KMac will be disciplined in his own way or else the players will rule!
Discipline, with allowing the players to express themselves, could be key over the next few weeks.
So please do not dismiss a fear element as part of possible future success.
Need the away support at home too!
COYR's
red white
says...
10:29pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Cookie43 wrote:I think his mum has must have tucked him into bed!
Pewsham Red wrote:yeah your right pewsham still fun to wind him up!!
Cookie43 wrote:I don't know why you bother Cookie, this lad clearly hasn't got a full deck. Too easy.
Pottered wrote:ha ha ha ha
Afcb4life wrote:Illiterate and mentally retarded. Please understand that, your also"SICK IN THE HEAD"
Where's ur money gone where's ur money gone haha crap cub crap players and most of all the scum and trash of fans
Afc bournemouth best in the south
you really are one sad sad t.wat
when was the last time you took over 3000 to an away league match?
come to think of it when was the last time you won a game?
actually you spend so much time on here you are totally obsessed with swindon town.
come saturday my sad little no life friend you will be 7 points behind us
loose against doncaster then you are in a crisis!!!
let me tell you something we at swindon to not see your little seaside club as a rival to us we couldnt give a toss about your non league club punching slightly above your weight.
i heard a rumour that if you do not get promotion this year the ruskies are gone!!
joey butler
says...
10:31pm Mon 4 Mar 13
London Red wrote:Well, well London Red,
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
.
He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
.
Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
.
As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
.
I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
.
As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
.
I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
Your posts are simply getting longer and longer and only one other poster can match them on here.
I think you are very closely related to The Wizard!!
the wizard
says...
10:37pm Mon 4 Mar 13
joey butler wrote:LOL, just nearly fell off my chair laughing, you know how to tell 'em(not), but the best part is, you still have it wrong, as always.
London Red wrote:Well, well London Red,
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
.
He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
.
Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
.
As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
.
I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
.
As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
.
I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
Your posts are simply getting longer and longer and only one other poster can match them on here.
I think you are very closely related to The Wizard!!
joey butler
says...
10:40pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Afcb4life wrote:Do they not have spelling lessons at schools in Bournemouth nowadays??
Ur team is crap and full of foreign players we currently don't have one watch when we get are captain back we will be auto or play offs position unlike u inbreads
Cheers for matt Richie for 500k
red white
says...
10:44pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Ha!
red white
says...
10:55pm Mon 4 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:Its 'cos you set out your points like London Red,good read tho!
joey butler wrote:LOL, just nearly fell off my chair laughing, you know how to tell 'em(not), but the best part is, you still have it wrong, as always.
London Red wrote:Well, well London Red,
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
.
He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
.
Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
.
As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
.
I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
.
As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
.
I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
Your posts are simply getting longer and longer and only one other poster can match them on here.
I think you are very closely related to The Wizard!!
the wizard
says...
11:03pm Mon 4 Mar 13
red white wrote:I don't use bullet marker type para's like he does, nor do I see things as clear cut issues such as he does, life is not always that tidy or predictable. I think LR is at least 20 odd years my junior and has a completely different back ground to myself which is clearly demonstrated in our views, which often differ, so how that makes us the same I dunno. Anyroad, bedtime, Saturday beckons and I'm one for a good day Saturday, sure will be very intresting to see the team sheet and positions of the players, let alone the game itself. Three-nil, Town win.
the wizard wrote:Its 'cos you set out your points like London Red,good read tho!
joey butler wrote:LOL, just nearly fell off my chair laughing, you know how to tell 'em(not), but the best part is, you still have it wrong, as always.
London Red wrote:Well, well London Red,
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
.
He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
.
Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
.
As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
.
Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
.
Why not simply explain why?
.
Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
.
Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
.
As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
.
I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
.
As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
.
The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
.
Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
.
I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
.
Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
.
Does knowing their names really change anything?
.
Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
.
I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
.
We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
.
Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
Your posts are simply getting longer and longer and only one other poster can match them on here.
I think you are very closely related to The Wizard!!
SimonPrice351
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11:04pm Mon 4 Mar 13
That way, we can put questions to them directly and they can get to know of our thoughts, concerns and expectations going forward in both the short and long term.
red white
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11:15pm Mon 4 Mar 13
the wizard wrote:Ok fair enough.
red white wrote:I don't use bullet marker type para's like he does, nor do I see things as clear cut issues such as he does, life is not always that tidy or predictable. I think LR is at least 20 odd years my junior and has a completely different back ground to myself which is clearly demonstrated in our views, which often differ, so how that makes us the same I dunno. Anyroad, bedtime, Saturday beckons and I'm one for a good day Saturday, sure will be very intresting to see the team sheet and positions of the players, let alone the game itself. Three-nil, Town win.
the wizard wrote:Its 'cos you set out your points like London Red,good read tho!
joey butler wrote:LOL, just nearly fell off my chair laughing, you know how to tell 'em(not), but the best part is, you still have it wrong, as always.
London Red wrote:Well, well London Red,
I think the main issue of Black not being portrayed correctly as pointed out above is down to Black himself
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He chose to remain in the background even when he became the sole owner and chose not to share with us "how much he liked this club and where he wanted to grow the club in certain areas"
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Via the media directly or via the board appointed by him this could have been outlined - AGM's etc
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As this was not put out there and lots of bullets were dodged - the same questions remained unanswered
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Also the fact he came out with lines like I changed my mind and stuck to my guns etc around the sale didn't help
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Why not simply explain why?
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Obviously he is not Dr Evil or anything he did write off millions after all (as did the other directors though!)
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Just a lack of communication is the issue as it leads to rumours and half truths
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As for the naming of the new investors - why the big issue?
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I posted the below yesterday when Den raised the point and think it is still valid
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As above if Jed is going to be the mouthpiece - who controls the purse strings shouldn't be that important as long as the collective message is relayed
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The only reason is to cure our curosity and let us do a wiki search!
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Yesterdays post: There are hundreds if not thousands of multi millionaires in this country and we the public know very little about them
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I had never heard of Fitton for example before he came and still don't really know his full background
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Jed had said we have 2 backers in the background and more interested in joining due to the board "model" - which the FL were also happy with
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Does knowing their names really change anything?
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Do any of us know Fitton's wealth - must be significant as he wrote £3m off last month but we couldn't put a finger on it
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I guess the main thing we should be interested in is the "model" itself
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We have snippits - concerts, improved sponsorship and operational cost cutting - but there must be more to it than that
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Surely a piece on this is more beneficial to us fans than the names of who is prepared to fund the club this year and next until that "model" is up and running”
Your posts are simply getting longer and longer and only one other poster can match them on here.
I think you are very closely related to The Wizard!!
Great appointment no one saw it coming and time to shine,coach and players(and us!)
3-0 easily.

Helpme234 says...
8:30am Mon 4 Mar 13