Di Canio says Swindon "chapter is finished" (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.

DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.

GUVS MASTER wrote:
Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now...
You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!

throbbingristle wrote:
hmmmmm...... just found this:

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=IL0CHroIj

Fk

It says a lot IMO!!!!

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

GUVS MASTER wrote:

DaniooolCOYR wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.

Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

GUVS MASTER wrote:

DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.

Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.

DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.

oldlegtrailer wrote:
12 months and we will be back in the red.

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

oldlegtrailer wrote:
12 months and we will be back in the red.

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

stfcknowitall wrote:
OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?...

Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!..

Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!

arkells wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!

proof before accusations, or if thats how you feel support someone else

sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha!

Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P

I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame:

Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!)

Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club

The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight

And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions.

Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold.

To sum it all up - Gutted.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

stfcknowitall wrote: OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!

You are sooo bitter - were you booing last night as well? IR has posted a reasonable summing up on another thread btw so can we ALL now move on - the pro and the PDC haters. Your hatred IMO is as boring as the 'sign a petition' posts.

stfcknowitall wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!

Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!

Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.

nosyrudeman wrote:
Thankyou PDC for all the positives you bought to STFC, but you have decided to move on and leave us. Let this be the end of all the speculation and silly arguments on this forum.

The King is dead, long live the King,
(whoever that may be).

C'mon u REDZZZZZZZZZ

stfcknowitall wrote:
OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?...

Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!..

Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!

GUVS MASTER wrote:
Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Ha ha where did the petition get you

sp1dersw3b wrote:

stfcknowitall wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote: stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!

Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?

Thank you for your marvellous contribution to debate on here - must be nearly bedtime for you, good night.

snazzle wrote:
Please can someone explain why the 5pm deadline.....what would have changed at 5.01pm? He had already met the new owners, It seems that it was a mutual ageement between both parties both knowing whatever the outcome PDC would would not be at Swindon once takeover had been sorted. God bless you all for the honesty shown????

Oi Den! wrote:

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

Poor old Compo. If it's not Nora Batty giving him grief it's PDC and Spencer chasing him down the road. Some people just seem to get more than their fair share of bad luck.

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.

Oldhamred wrote:
Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit.

J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning.

A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment.

Patey for being a liar.

PDC for walking when he should have stood firm.

P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get.

As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell.

And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago.

Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.

Rebel_phish wrote:
Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post.

I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long.

I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events.

I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility.

Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought.

As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood.

I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over.

On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short.

Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done.

Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.

super reds wrote:

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.

arkells wrote:
well paolo i for one wanted u back but reading your statement i have second thoughts, thanks for your time here, now collect your toys and put them back in your pram

old town robin wrote:

super reds wrote:

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got

Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.

The only thing he could sue us for would be the same as Curbishley did with West Ham after resigning. If it was in his contract that players couldn't be sold without consultation and his agreement, it could be construed the old board were in breach of contract when they sold Ritchie. If Black & Co are telling the truth he would have no grounds, but to be honest I don't think any of us know who to trust and believe.

Stratton Red wrote:

GUVS MASTER wrote: Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!

C0ck...

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?

ya mums got facial hair wrote:
The great times being a town fan has evaporated yet again. People wonder why we can't get big gates. Good luck Paolo just a shame you was stitched up. I guess it's time to move on with no ambition from the new clowns. Autograph signings in old town late on Saturday

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?

Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.

The Jockster wrote:

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! et al et al! and Uncle Tom Cobleigh & all!!

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.

stfcphil wrote:

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.

Oh dear .......love truly IS blind !

Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,

Med Red wrote:

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,

Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.

Davidsyrett wrote:

Med Red wrote:

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,

Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.

since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?

mancrobin wrote:

Rebel_phish wrote:
Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post.

I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long.

I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events.

I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility.

Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought.

As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood.

I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over.

On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short.

Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done.

Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.

Comparison to Lou, Ossie and Glen? Lou possibly and forwarding addresses may turn out similar.

Ossie and Glen not really but then it was a different context. I always thought that Swindon's success in that era was good succession. Ossie inherited a fit squad from Lou who he taught how to play football who passed that team on to a master architect.

I rate PdC alongside Wilson. They achieved very similar, expect Wilson did it with less money and less to say.

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

Med Red wrote:

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,

Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.

The Jockster wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

red white wrote:

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.

I agree i am gutted and saddened.

We went top last week
exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions.

We would have done the same this season too.

What a waste.

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago.

Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Oldhamred wrote:
Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit.

J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning.

A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment.

Patey for being a liar.

PDC for walking when he should have stood firm.

P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get.

As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell.

And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Rondogers wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.

What about Ooooh Shaun Taylor? think he is Lingy's assistant at Torquay? Maybe just until end of season? although he is probably busy at Torquay due to Lingy's health problems?

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti

ng

Since 1950 wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!

Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.

You mean other than being kept out of the loop with the sale of Ritchie. Players being offered for sale at a 50% discount without him being told about it. I could go on but if you can't or wont see it there's little point really.

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

We don't know it was in his contract that he had to okay all sales and we don't even know that he didn't know Ritchie was going to be sold - that's just his word against the club's.

After the Curbishley/West Ham thing, any club would be insane to have given a manager a total veto over the sale of players. There's always going to be the possibility that you need to sell players to keep going despite what the manager might think.

Davidsyrett wrote:

Med Red wrote:

stfcphil wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,

Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.

since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore

stfcphil wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?

davel4848 wrote:

Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.

Yes Lazaat, I think that sums up how the majority of us feel about this whole episode.

EastleazeRed wrote:

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti


ng

There fans think he's off to us .

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

stfcphil wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

joey butler wrote:

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Med Red,

How can you possibly say McCroy is ''an incompetent cowboy?''

The new owners have barely arrived and you are slagging them. Very intelligent on your behalf !!

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N

ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
...
Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
-----
I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Pewsham Red wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.

Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts.

Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!!

Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30!

bearwoodred wrote:
John Carew is a free agent today, can we not get him for a few months? Anyone who has got "My Life My Menstration" tatooed on their neck could terrify Div one defenses!

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another.

We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.

old town robin wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

Very good reminder sandy, Don't forget Wise to add to the list.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Yes I have.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Red Al wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Yes I have.

Why don't you two just give it up?

The Jockster wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.

Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts.

Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!!

Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30!

Ahhh Pewsham hi there mercifully I've still got all mine lol!

Re the music - JHB also makes some good points.

We're not far apart we both hope that he can pluck more than one string - but if not I'd just rather it be a footie chord instead of a musical one.

Maybe its me but he came across as part of a group that have bought the club for a hobby rather than someone deeply passionate about taking STFC to the next level. Early days I know but I'm not confident I'm afraid.

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Nice try but relying on press statements as being contractual obligations is, unfortunately not really satisfactory.

Try again and remember that as with us all, I am looking for reliable facts so if you don't have anything beyond your bias obsession don't respond.

For the record (again) I wanted PDC to return. I thought it needed that I am not anti.

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

Di kanny oh wrote:

red white wrote:

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.

I agree i am gutted and saddened.

We went top last week
exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions.

We would have done the same this season too.

What a waste.

red white told you yesterday that Di Canio will not be back and you said how do I know. Well I just did.

joey butler wrote:

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another.

We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.

Dreamo,

Just want to check how you are getting on with building your statue of PDC outside the County Ground?

You have shoved it just so far down our throats for the best part of 18 months, but I think it will be a very small statue.

A garden gnome perhaps??

Rondogers wrote:
I'm in two minds whether to wish him well for the future or to make a Di Canio Voodoo doll (with green jacket) and stick pins through it.

To be honest I think we all new it would end in tears, just a bit disappointed with his reasons (excuses) for leaving. I don't think he would have left like that if it was a bigger club.

Anyway i'm bored of it all now!

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.

the wizard wrote:
B R E A K I N G N E W S

Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.

The Jockster wrote:

the wizard wrote:
B R E A K I N G N E W S

Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.

Wiz you rely didn't like him after all then buddy eh?

Oldhamred wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N

ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
...
Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
-----
I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.

joey butler wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.

Oldham,

It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out.

Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others.

Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence.

And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY??

To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!!

Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!!

Davidsyrett wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

A little bit harsh!

All left at the end of the season after achieving their goal, if memory serves (In McMahon's case the best thing he actually did was walk out!) but also Macari, Hoddle & Ardiles had offers from other clubs.

Spot the Odd one out!

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.

I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.

the wizard wrote:

joey butler wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.

Oldham,

It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out.

Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others.

Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence.

And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY??

To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!!

Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!!

Well Joey, you and your double, Jockster aka Malkym are certainly doing the late night rounds tonight, aren't you.

NO, I have repeatedly said the only issue with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture

NO, I didn't call Wilson Mr Foldy Arms, so you got that wrong again, I called him Waffler so get it right.

Yes, I did support Hart, but he didn't really get it right, but could anyone with those players, doubtful.

As for Glas Red, sort it with him, nothing to do with me, nothing at all.

No I didn't want PDC to go, but the wheels have been falling off since the embargo, only some are to blind to see it, and some still don't accept it, and some are so far far up their own ar5e holes they continue not to see what is occuring. So there you have it, you sarcasm goes before you and your wit as usual non existent.

So go and keyboard with your numerous other alter ego's, and don't forget your Kleenex, I'm off to watch some footie on TV.

The Jockster wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!

Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.

stfc2012 wrote:
I'll go on record and say the 6 gigs a year at the county ground won't work. The pitch needs to be properly cared for and not trampled on so to put on 6 in the summer break a bit much. There is a reason why big clubs only do a few and if it was that easy every club would do it including our old board. Also, Swindon would only get the 'has been' middle of the road acts that would appeal to the masses and that's about it. That's what you need to fill a small stadium in a town with little culture, no university or any meaningful scene. It's nice the board have ideas but its all been thought through and dismissed before and if they think it will be a success they are out of touch and way way off. Fans remember the first things managers and boards say such as the 'the 5 year plan' etc. Next year people will be on this board asking where their 6 concerts are... The board will be saying they were not viable... They may get a couple on but I'll eat my keyboard if they turn 'SN1' into a successful large scale music venue.

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

LydiardRED67 wrote:

Pewsham Red wrote:

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.

That should be 'broken contract'.

What clauses were broken?

Selling Ritchie without his agreement.

Who's word do you believe?

Di Canio's. You?

At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............

Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.

Bloody hell, this is getting tedious.

You claim contracts have been broken yet you can't tell me how.

You state the sale of Ritchie which is public knowledge.

You are unable to cite the clause in PDC contract which has been broken, instead regurgitating rhetoric already understood.

As nobody knows the contents of the contract, I can only go on the word of those I have engaged with. i haven't spoken to Black or PDC yet I have spoken to Mccrory. Albeit only once.

I choose to believe that if the current owner knew he was going to sell Ritchie, the new owner knew Ritchie was going to be sold and the current managers agent and friend knew he was going to be sold then it is a safe bet that the manager knew he was going to be sold.

Your go.......

The Jockster wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

the wizard wrote:

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.

You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.

Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N


ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
...
Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
-----
I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.

Sap goodness knows we've had our ups and downs but I'm in total agreement here. Life at the CG is going to be incredibly dull post Pdc and as you say the new board have a mountain to climb.

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Joey B/Jockster on a point of order the statue was to be built on him getting us to the Premiership. Sadly no chance now.

Small and perhaps buried nder ground for his statue..... Just like Grim suggested - I'll be making a terracotta Amy.....

Can we sign some players please....

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.

Because they are fickle.

Like you fantastic following STFC home and away in this era.

Hard act to follow but I will give my support however I don't think for a minute I am going to enjoy as much.
37 years following Town and this feels all rather depressing.

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.

I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.

JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.

Davidsyrett wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.

I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.

JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.

I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.

35 year fan wrote:
agent di canio - thank you your work is done. agent mcrory has the baton now. and he's off to a great start!

Davidsyrett wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

jayden wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Wilesy wrote:

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.

Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.

I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.

Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .

I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.

Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.

I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.

JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.

I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.