SWINDON TOWN: Di Canio says Swindon "chapter is finished"

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Paolo Di Canio will not be coming back to Swindon Town Paolo Di Canio will not be coming back to Swindon Town

PAOLO Di Canio has confirmed that he will not be returning to Swindon Town as manager.

The Italian quit the County Ground last week citing “broken promises” made by the previous board at the club, but pockets of fans had hoped that the extrovert former Lazio forward would make a remarkable U-turn and come back to the the Robins following the purchase of Town by new owners.

However, that was never likely and Di Canio revealed this afternoon that his “chapter” with Swindon is closed.

“I don’t want any more from now that someone speculates with my name and tells people that maybe one day I can come back,” he told Sky Sports News.

“That is not fair for the fans and so my chapter at Swindon is finished in terms of being manager of Swindon Football Club.

“I’m a straight man, I handled a situation this year that was absolutely incredible and one day I came out to say it was untenable. The regret is only that we brought this club to the top in an incredible environment this year, without any help.”

Di Canio had to operate under a series of transfer embargos during his second season in charge of the Robins and criticised the atmopshere at the club for being “hostile” towards him.

He was given a £4.5million budget last summer but had struggled to make up a full squad on matchdays recently after a raft of injuries.

The Italian holds a major grievance regarding the sale of Matt Ritchie to Bournemouth on January 30, and cites that decision by former majority shareholder Andrew Black as the catalyst to his choice to leave the club.

Ritchie was sold in order to raise the funds necessary to keep Swindon solvent during the interim period between ownerships of the club. The portion Town received of the £500,000 Bournemouth paid for the winger’s services ensured salaries were paid in February.

“The main reason was that Matt Ritchie was sold behind me,” Di Canio said. “That was the main problem obviously. Obviously also there are many other things.

“Not only in the way it happened, it was clear that they breached the contract in that situation because there was an agreement that every player that was for sale should go through me and have a meeting and maybe discuss it.

“It didn’t happen and anyway we can prove that someone told us that he wasn’t for sale. That was the main factor.”

Having initially quit the club on Tuesday, February 12, Di Canio was convinced by the incoming Swindon board - that of Jed McCrory - to sign a short-term agreement on Friday, February 15 which included a 5pm deadline on Monday, February 18, by which time the takeover needed to be completed else he would confirm his resignation.

With the Football League continuing their own due diligence of the takeover and various elements contributing to the delay of the sale of the club, that deadline came and went without positive news.

Di Canio claims the fact that the new board did not contact him on the evening of Monday, February 18 influenced his decision to walk away. Football League ratification did not arrive until around 4pm on Thursday, February 21.

It is understood that McCrory was not personally informed of Di Canio’s resignation by the relevant parties and attempted to get in touch with Di Canio’s representatives early on Tuesday, February 19.

“I didn’t see a very strong, strong desire from someone to keep Paolo Di Canio in the club so for this reason I decided to resign from the club,” Di Canio said.

“It was a mutual agreement between me and the new consortium, at the time they weren’t on top of the club. We made a deadline that was agreed together in front of my solicitors. That was Monday at 5pm.

"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

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5:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

That's it then, he's gone, no more silly petitions or blind hope, we now have to move on. The club has to prove that we are bigger than PdC.

Come on Jed lets have a new manager fast.
That's it then, he's gone, no more silly petitions or blind hope, we now have to move on. The club has to prove that we are bigger than PdC. Come on Jed lets have a new manager fast. Davidsyrett

5:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

EastleazeRed says...

Move along. Next please !
Move along. Next please ! EastleazeRed

5:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13

P*ssed Off says...

Thank you for eberythin, goodbye, now lets get on with it. Onwards and Upwards.........and to all of you sceptics on our ability to do it without Paolo.......I hope you enjoy eating your horsesh*t sorry horsemeat!!
Thank you for eberythin, goodbye, now lets get on with it. Onwards and Upwards.........and to all of you sceptics on our ability to do it without Paolo.......I hope you enjoy eating your horsesh*t sorry horsemeat!! P*ssed Off

5:19pm Wed 27 Feb 13

GUVS MASTER says...

Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now...
You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!
Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!! GUVS MASTER

5:19pm Wed 27 Feb 13

redshaun says...

Sorry Paolo but it looks like we could not afford to keep you. Thank you for what you have done and good luck to you and your team in the future. It was certainly exciting to see you at work. I would also say that the long term future of the club is more important than anyone individual, so selling Ritchie and losing PDC is nopt the end of the world. Just the start of a new era for STFC.
Sorry Paolo but it looks like we could not afford to keep you. Thank you for what you have done and good luck to you and your team in the future. It was certainly exciting to see you at work. I would also say that the long term future of the club is more important than anyone individual, so selling Ritchie and losing PDC is nopt the end of the world. Just the start of a new era for STFC. redshaun

5:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

**** ! Is it too late to sign the petition. Sure it would make all the difference ......
**** ! Is it too late to sign the petition. Sure it would make all the difference ...... stfcphil

5:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

P*ssed Off says...

Meant to read.......Thank you for everything....etc (Long day at work!!)
Meant to read.......Thank you for everything....etc (Long day at work!!) P*ssed Off

5:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Tadley Robin says...

Clarification has finally arrived. We now need to look forward and bring in at top class manager. I would like to thank PDC for all he done for our football club but we now must move on.
It is plain to see that without a manager we are struggling.

Message for new board, please please choose wisely. The passion of all fans are plain to see at all the games, so we expect good things.

Lets all move are beloved club forward.

Jamie :)
Clarification has finally arrived. We now need to look forward and bring in at top class manager. I would like to thank PDC for all he done for our football club but we now must move on. It is plain to see that without a manager we are struggling. Message for new board, please please choose wisely. The passion of all fans are plain to see at all the games, so we expect good things. Lets all move are beloved club forward. Jamie :) Tadley Robin

5:22pm Wed 27 Feb 13

M.Dobbo says...

Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season. Dobbo. M.Dobbo

5:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Graham8181 says...

cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract. Graham8181

5:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nosyrudeman says...

Thankyou PDC for all the positives you bought to STFC, but you have decided to move on and leave us. Let this be the end of all the speculation and silly arguments on this forum.

The King is dead, long live the King,
(whoever that may be).

C'mon u REDZZZZZZZZZ
Thankyou PDC for all the positives you bought to STFC, but you have decided to move on and leave us. Let this be the end of all the speculation and silly arguments on this forum. The King is dead, long live the King, (whoever that may be). C'mon u REDZZZZZZZZZ nosyrudeman

5:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

swindonmatt says...

gutted but not a surprise wish him luck with what u do next. Thanks for the memories. Need to move on now please sort it jed before its too late.
gutted but not a surprise wish him luck with what u do next. Thanks for the memories. Need to move on now please sort it jed before its too late. swindonmatt

5:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Oldhamred says...

Thanks for clearing that up Paolo.

Time to move on.

Just hope this new board isn't feeding us a load of shiit.

By Saturday in the following order:

A good performance, a new interim manager, 3 points please.
Thanks for clearing that up Paolo. Time to move on. Just hope this new board isn't feeding us a load of shiit. By Saturday in the following order: A good performance, a new interim manager, 3 points please. Oldhamred

5:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

throbbingristle says...

hmmmmm...... just found this:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=IL0CHroIj
Fk

It says a lot IMO!!!!
hmmmmm...... just found this: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=IL0CHroIj Fk It says a lot IMO!!!! throbbingristle

5:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

DaniooolCOYR says...

"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on. DaniooolCOYR

5:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

tobruk says...

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.
Don't be such a pessimist sir! We may or may not get promoted, but we will survive in Leegue one and we can build the future from there! Have more faith in the new board and a potential new manager, who I agree is badly needed after last night. No disrespect to Dusty and Wardy who gave of their best and rose to the challenge, but experience counts at this level.
[quote][p][bold]M.Dobbo[/bold] wrote: Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season. Dobbo.[/p][/quote]Don't be such a pessimist sir! We may or may not get promoted, but we will survive in Leegue one and we can build the future from there! Have more faith in the new board and a potential new manager, who I agree is badly needed after last night. No disrespect to Dusty and Wardy who gave of their best and rose to the challenge, but experience counts at this level. tobruk

5:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Tomcat 1944 says...

Would have thought there was some communication from the Club on the meeting between the board and Ward/Miller on the way ahead, even if only in broad terms, assuming of course the meeting took place. On last nights showing forget promotion, it reminded me of the Wilson dark era continued by Hart. Why is Bodin not holding the fort? Perhaps he does not want to after being rejected last time !
Would have thought there was some communication from the Club on the meeting between the board and Ward/Miller on the way ahead, even if only in broad terms, assuming of course the meeting took place. On last nights showing forget promotion, it reminded me of the Wilson dark era continued by Hart. Why is Bodin not holding the fort? Perhaps he does not want to after being rejected last time ! Tomcat 1944

5:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

GUVS MASTER says...

DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.
Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.
[quote][p][bold]DaniooolCOYR[/bold] wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.[/p][/quote]Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!. GUVS MASTER

5:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13

davel4848 says...

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.
Rest assured Dobbo(in), you will soon be eaten.
Are you an horse from Oxford ?
[quote][p][bold]M.Dobbo[/bold] wrote: Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season. Dobbo.[/p][/quote]Rest assured Dobbo(in), you will soon be eaten. Are you an horse from Oxford ? davel4848

5:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

If Jed didn't try and contact him then he either wanted him out and it was deliberate, or it was incompetence in the extreme. I can't believe he's just forgot it and on Tuesday it was 'Doh! Better ring Di Canio' then 'Oh no he's resigned like he said he would, should have called him'

Of all the important deadlines within the takeover, and surely knowing how Paolo likes to be loved, to miss that 5pm deadline, if he did, cannot have been by mistake?

Why did he not have Paolo's direct number? If communication was through Spencer then that is ridiculous and it's no surprise communication was poor.

What a fiasco!
If Jed didn't try and contact him then he either wanted him out and it was deliberate, or it was incompetence in the extreme. I can't believe he's just forgot it and on Tuesday it was 'Doh! Better ring Di Canio' then 'Oh no he's resigned like he said he would, should have called him' Of all the important deadlines within the takeover, and surely knowing how Paolo likes to be loved, to miss that 5pm deadline, if he did, cannot have been by mistake? Why did he not have Paolo's direct number? If communication was through Spencer then that is ridiculous and it's no surprise communication was poor. What a fiasco! Wilesy

5:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ya mums got facial hair says...

The great times being a town fan has evaporated yet again.
People wonder why we can't get big gates.
Good luck Paolo just a shame you was stitched up.
I guess it's time to move on with no ambition from the new clowns.
Autograph signings in old town late on Saturday
The great times being a town fan has evaporated yet again. People wonder why we can't get big gates. Good luck Paolo just a shame you was stitched up. I guess it's time to move on with no ambition from the new clowns. Autograph signings in old town late on Saturday ya mums got facial hair

5:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

arkells says...

well paolo i for one wanted u back but reading your statement i have second thoughts, thanks for your time here, now collect your toys and put them back in your pram
well paolo i for one wanted u back but reading your statement i have second thoughts, thanks for your time here, now collect your toys and put them back in your pram arkells

5:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

GUVS MASTER wrote:
Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now...
You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!
Alright mate! A simple 'time to move on' would have done.
[quote][p][bold]GUVS MASTER[/bold] wrote: Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!![/p][/quote]Alright mate! A simple 'time to move on' would have done. Pewsham Red

5:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

davel4848 says...

throbbingristle wrote:
hmmmmm...... just found this:

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=IL0CHroIj

Fk

It says a lot IMO!!!!
Really informative.
[quote][p][bold]throbbingristle[/bold] wrote: hmmmmm...... just found this: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=IL0CHroIj Fk It says a lot IMO!!!![/p][/quote]Really informative. davel4848

5:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'. Pewsham Red

5:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

super reds says...

GUVS MASTER wrote:
DaniooolCOYR wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.
Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.
Agree with the above, I for 1 did want him to finish what he'd started but because of Ritchie being sold he has turned into a very bitter individual, well sir, I hope you have more joy with your new employers....that is, of course, if anyone will have you after your shenanigans, we would probably have welcomed you back with open arms, clean slate & all that but now, as others have been saying, it's pretty obvious that it's all about you & you don't really give 2 hoots about our club & us
[quote][p][bold]GUVS MASTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaniooolCOYR[/bold] wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.[/p][/quote]Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.[/p][/quote]Agree with the above, I for 1 did want him to finish what he'd started but because of Ritchie being sold he has turned into a very bitter individual, well sir, I hope you have more joy with your new employers....that is, of course, if anyone will have you after your shenanigans, we would probably have welcomed you back with open arms, clean slate & all that but now, as others have been saying, it's pretty obvious that it's all about you & you don't really give 2 hoots about our club & us super reds

5:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

NewburyRobin says...

Took me a while to warm to Di Canios antics, I never liked the banging on the dugout but loved the fact of how he celebrated after the game with the players & fans. I think we all agree his training methods & player discipline were a breath of fresh air.

I doubt the outcome of his departure would have been any different even if SWP had informed him of the Richie sale, but he still should have been contacted as a matter of good business & manners.

Disappointed at the timing of his leaving & will never understand why that 5pm deadline was ever agreed to.

We move on, we still have a club to support & will see many more managers come & go over time. Lets get an experienced manager & loan players in until the end of the season & then look at a long term replacement.
Took me a while to warm to Di Canios antics, I never liked the banging on the dugout but loved the fact of how he celebrated after the game with the players & fans. I think we all agree his training methods & player discipline were a breath of fresh air. I doubt the outcome of his departure would have been any different even if SWP had informed him of the Richie sale, but he still should have been contacted as a matter of good business & manners. Disappointed at the timing of his leaving & will never understand why that 5pm deadline was ever agreed to. We move on, we still have a club to support & will see many more managers come & go over time. Lets get an experienced manager & loan players in until the end of the season & then look at a long term replacement. NewburyRobin

5:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Since 1950 says...

He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon! Since 1950

5:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Robinonfire says...

So thats that........any news of the new manager yet??????????????
So thats that........any news of the new manager yet?????????????? Robinonfire

5:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

arkells says...

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
proof before accusations, or if thats how you feel support someone else
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]proof before accusations, or if thats how you feel support someone else arkells

5:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Brainy_G93 says...

Great manager, big baby, he doesn't want Swindon so Swindon definitely doesn't want him.
Get in Hoddle to see out the season.
Great manager, big baby, he doesn't want Swindon so Swindon definitely doesn't want him. Get in Hoddle to see out the season. Brainy_G93

5:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

GUVS MASTER wrote:
DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.
Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.
Better? Who? Any suggestions?
[quote][p][bold]GUVS MASTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaniooolCOYR[/bold] wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.[/p][/quote]Agree... he seems to have turned out to be a VERY bitter and pathetic old man now... never mind... life goes on without him and in my eyes i am glad he's not coming back. It was becoming the 'Its all about me me me' Di Canio show at the County Ground, we can find someone better... come on Jed!!.[/p][/quote]Better? Who? Any suggestions? sp1dersw3b

5:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

DaniooolCOYR wrote:
"Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours.

“If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“

Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.
Agreed.

Someone (Spencer?) is badly advising him over this. He might think it plays well with the Town fans but not with all of them as we can see on here.

The media are only interested in hyping up a story - they couldn't care less whether he's right or wrong. As far as they're concerned it's just "PDC shouts his mouth off again." The bit on SSN with the photos was laughable - he could have just asked for them back.

For the rest of football his "putting the record straight" comes across as stroppy, attempting to dictate terms to his employer and generally throwing his toys out of the pram. I doubt too many club chairmen would be impressed by his behaviour over the last 3 1/2 weeks because they could imagine that it could be them at the centre of his "statements" if they take him on and he throws a paddy.

If we get promoted now (and McCrory and co need to get a move on ASAP) it'll be just as much despite of PDC as because of him. I'm not a fan of his, but that's actually quite a sad state of affairs.
[quote][p][bold]DaniooolCOYR[/bold] wrote: "Nobody forced nobody else to sign that mutual agreement in these terms. The fact is that at 5pm of Monday, the deadline, I didn’t receive any phone call to try to persuade me and try to delay it maybe 24 hours. “If that had happened maybe I would have decided a different way. But I waited two hours later to send out my statement just in case they wanted to contact me. It didn’t happen, so this is the reason why I decided to resign.“ Pathetic, sadly he is doing as much damage to his reputation as he is to our chances of promotion. Bored of this now, as others have said, lets move on.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Someone (Spencer?) is badly advising him over this. He might think it plays well with the Town fans but not with all of them as we can see on here. The media are only interested in hyping up a story - they couldn't care less whether he's right or wrong. As far as they're concerned it's just "PDC shouts his mouth off again." The bit on SSN with the photos was laughable - he could have just asked for them back. For the rest of football his "putting the record straight" comes across as stroppy, attempting to dictate terms to his employer and generally throwing his toys out of the pram. I doubt too many club chairmen would be impressed by his behaviour over the last 3 1/2 weeks because they could imagine that it could be them at the centre of his "statements" if they take him on and he throws a paddy. If we get promoted now (and McCrory and co need to get a move on ASAP) it'll be just as much despite of PDC as because of him. I'm not a fan of his, but that's actually quite a sad state of affairs. Jeremy Hilary Boob

5:58pm Wed 27 Feb 13

oldlegtrailer says...

12 months and we will be back in the red.
12 months and we will be back in the red. oldlegtrailer

5:59pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LeGod says...

So still all quiet on the reinforces side for players.

We had three lined up before the takeover who we now wont get as i would imagine Pack will stay at Cheltenham as he keeps scoring now BWP has gone to Brentford and the Charlton guy Green i think has gone to MK Dons.
So JED we are desperate for Midfield cover as Ferry is injured Navarro im afraid to say is not up to it and we are down to the bare bones.
Are we getting any players in before saturday JED?
if not i can see a 3-0 defeat.
If we are not going to appoint a manager lets get someone in to steady the ship until the end of the season.
I have a feeling that unless we get some experienced manager full time or temporary we are going to drop off.
That is no fault of the players either they need guidance and unless this new board get their act together we are going to be playing as we did last night which has to be the worst game ive seen for a long time at the CG.
If our new owners cant see that then that is worrying as we are desperate for reinforcements and a manager.
So still all quiet on the reinforces side for players. We had three lined up before the takeover who we now wont get as i would imagine Pack will stay at Cheltenham as he keeps scoring now BWP has gone to Brentford and the Charlton guy Green i think has gone to MK Dons. So JED we are desperate for Midfield cover as Ferry is injured Navarro im afraid to say is not up to it and we are down to the bare bones. Are we getting any players in before saturday JED? if not i can see a 3-0 defeat. If we are not going to appoint a manager lets get someone in to steady the ship until the end of the season. I have a feeling that unless we get some experienced manager full time or temporary we are going to drop off. That is no fault of the players either they need guidance and unless this new board get their act together we are going to be playing as we did last night which has to be the worst game ive seen for a long time at the CG. If our new owners cant see that then that is worrying as we are desperate for reinforcements and a manager. LeGod

6:02pm Wed 27 Feb 13

the wizard says...

B R E A K I N G N E W S

Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.
B R E A K I N G N E W S Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram. the wizard

6:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Carpcatcher710 says...

oldlegtrailer wrote:
12 months and we will be back in the red.
Lets hope when paolo finds a new club he doesn't come knocking for a few of our top players, especially sir wes, after all he's only 5'8 , and as paolo said who wants a 5'8 keeper anyway. Me me me , thanks paolo now disappear
[quote][p][bold]oldlegtrailer[/bold] wrote: 12 months and we will be back in the red.[/p][/quote]Lets hope when paolo finds a new club he doesn't come knocking for a few of our top players, especially sir wes, after all he's only 5'8 , and as paolo said who wants a 5'8 keeper anyway. Me me me , thanks paolo now disappear Carpcatcher710

6:07pm Wed 27 Feb 13

mallorca says...

Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got mallorca

6:10pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
If he attempts to sue for compensation, the club should sue for breach of contract because he walked out.

And if the stories he's coming out with aren't true, they should sue for that as well.
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]If he attempts to sue for compensation, the club should sue for breach of contract because he walked out. And if the stories he's coming out with aren't true, they should sue for that as well. Jeremy Hilary Boob

6:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Son of gwen says...

Get a new man in now, no good getting someone to see us till the end of this season, causes too many problems for next season !! Players contracts, in or out, new players, pre season etc etc.
Get a new man in now, no good getting someone to see us till the end of this season, causes too many problems for next season !! Players contracts, in or out, new players, pre season etc etc. Son of gwen

6:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ds-red says...

Well I just watched the advertisement of come and get me someone I want a job .
Well you walked out on the last one
I think a lot of clubs will be scared of
PDC
Prima Donna Canio
Just feel you walked when going got tough , and realised you wouldn't get the same financial backing .
Well I just watched the advertisement of come and get me someone I want a job . Well you walked out on the last one I think a lot of clubs will be scared of PDC Prima Donna Canio Just feel you walked when going got tough , and realised you wouldn't get the same financial backing . ds-red

6:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13

tj@ramsbury says...

Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on. tj@ramsbury

6:19pm Wed 27 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team. Hate agreeing with you on the last point. TheDukeOfBanbury

6:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Oi Den! says...

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Poor old Compo. If it's not Nora Batty giving him grief it's PDC and Spencer chasing him down the road. Some people just seem to get more than their fair share of bad luck.
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]Poor old Compo. If it's not Nora Batty giving him grief it's PDC and Spencer chasing him down the road. Some people just seem to get more than their fair share of bad luck. Oi Den!

6:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcknowitall says...

OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?...

Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!..

Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!
OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e! stfcknowitall

6:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

oldlegtrailer wrote:
12 months and we will be back in the red.
At least you didn't mention "Black"
[quote][p][bold]oldlegtrailer[/bold] wrote: 12 months and we will be back in the red.[/p][/quote]At least you didn't mention "Black" TheDukeOfBanbury

6:21pm Wed 27 Feb 13

super reds says...

mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.
[quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO. super reds

6:21pm Wed 27 Feb 13

OohShaunTaylor says...

Next please.......

This club is way bigger than one man.
Next please....... This club is way bigger than one man. OohShaunTaylor

6:22pm Wed 27 Feb 13

EastoeSTFC says...

David Kerslake is the man!!!
David Kerslake is the man!!! EastoeSTFC

6:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
PdC did a great job, not many are disputing that, But he walked out on us and I for one will never forgive that. Don't forget, we gave PdC a chance, it wasn't all one way. be interesting to see how his career develops now, I somehow doubt he will ever become a top manager.
[quote][p][bold]tj@ramsbury[/bold] wrote: Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.[/p][/quote]PdC did a great job, not many are disputing that, But he walked out on us and I for one will never forgive that. Don't forget, we gave PdC a chance, it wasn't all one way. be interesting to see how his career develops now, I somehow doubt he will ever become a top manager. Davidsyrett

6:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
Because they are fickle.

Like you fantastic following STFC home and away in this era.

Hard act to follow but I will give my support however I don't think for a minute I am going to enjoy as much.
37 years following Town and this feels all rather depressing.
[quote][p][bold]tj@ramsbury[/bold] wrote: Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.[/p][/quote]Because they are fickle. Like you fantastic following STFC home and away in this era. Hard act to follow but I will give my support however I don't think for a minute I am going to enjoy as much. 37 years following Town and this feels all rather depressing. TheDukeOfBanbury

6:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club. LydiardRED67

6:31pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

stfcknowitall wrote:
OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?...

Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!..

Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!
You are sooo bitter - were you booing last night as well?

IR has posted a reasonable summing up on another thread btw so can we ALL now move on - the pro and the PDC haters.

Your hatred IMO is as boring as the 'sign a petition' posts.
[quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e![/p][/quote]You are sooo bitter - were you booing last night as well? IR has posted a reasonable summing up on another thread btw so can we ALL now move on - the pro and the PDC haters. Your hatred IMO is as boring as the 'sign a petition' posts. sp1dersw3b

6:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

International Robin2 says...

Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha!

Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P

I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame:

Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!)

Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club

The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight

And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions.

Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold.

To sum it all up - Gutted.
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted. International Robin2

6:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

grove red says...

Thanks PDC for all you have done for stfc we have had a great time Would have been nice to see you complete the job but so be it we all move on. At least you walked so that should cost the club nothing for a change. I do think other clubs will think twice about you in future employment after all when the going got tough you walked away and left your players and fans up shxx creek. Anyway time for this chapter to close and bring in a new man now who is comitted to STFC and get us into the championship.
Thanks PDC for all you have done for stfc we have had a great time Would have been nice to see you complete the job but so be it we all move on. At least you walked so that should cost the club nothing for a change. I do think other clubs will think twice about you in future employment after all when the going got tough you walked away and left your players and fans up shxx creek. Anyway time for this chapter to close and bring in a new man now who is comitted to STFC and get us into the championship. grove red

6:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!
stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above! sp1dersw3b

6:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Since 1950 says...

arkells wrote:
Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!
proof before accusations, or if thats how you feel support someone else
Go do one idiot!
I don't need proof. Just my take on it and my view is as good as anyones on here. Including yous!
[quote][p][bold]arkells[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]proof before accusations, or if thats how you feel support someone else[/p][/quote]Go do one idiot! I don't need proof. Just my take on it and my view is as good as anyones on here. Including yous! Since 1950

6:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcknowitall says...

sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!
Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?
[quote][p][bold]sp1dersw3b[/bold] wrote: stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above![/p][/quote]Are you IR's little donkey or somethin? stfcknowitall

6:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

Bye
Bye mancrobin

6:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post.

I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long.

I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events.

I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility.

Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought.

As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood.

I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over.

On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short.

Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done.

Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.
Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post. I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long. I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events. I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility. Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought. As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood. I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over. On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short. Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done. Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period. Rebel_phish

6:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha!

Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P

I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame:

Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!)

Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club

The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight

And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions.

Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold.

To sum it all up - Gutted.
Black was probably thinking, "Why am I shelling out money on a football club that I'm not really interested in and that is only giving me a load of grief?"

Agreed about Di Canio though. Some of his actions are at best the result of poor communication and at worst down to an inability or unwillingness to take a step back and see that not everything revolves around him - expecting Black to click his fingers and get the embargo lifted, Ritchie being sold and imposing the 5pm deadline.
[quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.[/p][/quote]Black was probably thinking, "Why am I shelling out money on a football club that I'm not really interested in and that is only giving me a load of grief?" Agreed about Di Canio though. Some of his actions are at best the result of poor communication and at worst down to an inability or unwillingness to take a step back and see that not everything revolves around him - expecting Black to click his fingers and get the embargo lifted, Ritchie being sold and imposing the 5pm deadline. Jeremy Hilary Boob

6:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcknowitall says...

sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote: OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!
You are sooo bitter - were you booing last night as well? IR has posted a reasonable summing up on another thread btw so can we ALL now move on - the pro and the PDC haters. Your hatred IMO is as boring as the 'sign a petition' posts.
Yes I was booing actually......at the ref though! not thats it any of your business of course.

And on another point I don't ''hate'' Paolo, yes I was disappointed in the way he left our players and fans in limbo but in no way do I hate him.

Im just not obsessed with the man like some people are and I truly believe there is life after Paolo so relax, take a deep breath and lie down in a dark room and it will all be ok!
[quote][p][bold]sp1dersw3b[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e![/p][/quote]You are sooo bitter - were you booing last night as well? IR has posted a reasonable summing up on another thread btw so can we ALL now move on - the pro and the PDC haters. Your hatred IMO is as boring as the 'sign a petition' posts.[/p][/quote]Yes I was booing actually......at the ref though! not thats it any of your business of course. And on another point I don't ''hate'' Paolo, yes I was disappointed in the way he left our players and fans in limbo but in no way do I hate him. Im just not obsessed with the man like some people are and I truly believe there is life after Paolo so relax, take a deep breath and lie down in a dark room and it will all be ok! stfcknowitall

6:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

stfcknowitall wrote:
sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!
Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?
Thank you for your marvellous contribution to debate on here - must be nearly bedtime for you, good night.
[quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sp1dersw3b[/bold] wrote: stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above![/p][/quote]Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?[/p][/quote]Thank you for your marvellous contribution to debate on here - must be nearly bedtime for you, good night. sp1dersw3b

6:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ILOVESTFC says...

Good Bye Mr Di canio you have proved beyond doubt you are only interested in yourself. You let the players down especially those you recruited. You let every single Swindon supporter down that would have followed you to end of the earth. We all get a rough deal from time to time but we deal with it and make the most of a bad situation. You knew more about the issues then any of us knew.. Yes Black could have chosen to pay Jan wages and not sell Ritchie but he didn't . Tough it happens to Managers all the time . Did Alex Ferguson walk out on Man Utd sold when Ronaldo was sold. NO he just got on with his job of making Man Utd into a winning team. Mr Di canio look at your playing career and see the number controversial incidences you had at almost every club you played for.You are obviously planning to continue in a similar vein for your Managerial Career. If you had one ounce of decency you would return to Swindon and apologise to the club , players and supporters for abandoning us for the last 3 matches and make sure we got promotion. Rant Over
Good Bye Mr Di canio you have proved beyond doubt you are only interested in yourself. You let the players down especially those you recruited. You let every single Swindon supporter down that would have followed you to end of the earth. We all get a rough deal from time to time but we deal with it and make the most of a bad situation. You knew more about the issues then any of us knew.. Yes Black could have chosen to pay Jan wages and not sell Ritchie but he didn't . Tough it happens to Managers all the time . Did Alex Ferguson walk out on Man Utd sold when Ronaldo was sold. NO he just got on with his job of making Man Utd into a winning team. Mr Di canio look at your playing career and see the number controversial incidences you had at almost every club you played for.You are obviously planning to continue in a similar vein for your Managerial Career. If you had one ounce of decency you would return to Swindon and apologise to the club , players and supporters for abandoning us for the last 3 matches and make sure we got promotion. Rant Over ILOVESTFC

6:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

snazzle says...

Please can someone explain why the 5pm deadline.....what would have changed at 5.01pm? He had already met the new owners, It seems that it was a mutual ageement between both parties both knowing whatever the outcome PDC would would not be at Swindon once takeover had been sorted. God bless you all for the honesty shown????
Please can someone explain why the 5pm deadline.....what would have changed at 5.01pm? He had already met the new owners, It seems that it was a mutual ageement between both parties both knowing whatever the outcome PDC would would not be at Swindon once takeover had been sorted. God bless you all for the honesty shown???? snazzle

6:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Med Red says...

So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy. Med Red

6:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Since 1950 says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!
Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.
You mean other than being kept out of the loop with the sale of Ritchie. Players being offered for sale at a 50% discount without him being told about it. I could go on but if you can't or wont see it there's little point really.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.[/p][/quote]You mean other than being kept out of the loop with the sale of Ritchie. Players being offered for sale at a 50% discount without him being told about it. I could go on but if you can't or wont see it there's little point really. Since 1950

6:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

VinnyPericard says...

Would've been nice to have had a more dignified end to his reign but there we go. Shame. Near impossible to replace though. All linked names simply do not cut it. We need to aim higher and fast otherwise expect an imminent slide out of the playoffs...
Would've been nice to have had a more dignified end to his reign but there we go. Shame. Near impossible to replace though. All linked names simply do not cut it. We need to aim higher and fast otherwise expect an imminent slide out of the playoffs... VinnyPericard

6:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Ha ha where did the petition get you
Ha ha where did the petition get you Is that you Lovesey

7:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LeGod says...

i get the feeling this board dont want promotion this season there is no urgency.
I think with several players out of contract they will appoint a low level manager and recruit new players with lower wages.
i get the feeling this board dont want promotion this season there is no urgency. I think with several players out of contract they will appoint a low level manager and recruit new players with lower wages. LeGod

7:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Thankyou PDC for all the positives you bought to STFC, but you have decided to move on and leave us. Let this be the end of all the speculation and silly arguments on this forum.

The King is dead, long live the King,
(whoever that may be).

C'mon u REDZZZZZZZZZ
He's not dead!...He's sleeping!!!
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Thankyou PDC for all the positives you bought to STFC, but you have decided to move on and leave us. Let this be the end of all the speculation and silly arguments on this forum. The King is dead, long live the King, (whoever that may be). C'mon u REDZZZZZZZZZ[/p][/quote]He's not dead!...He's sleeping!!! SAPFanSTFC

7:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

zigounette and ballons says...

stfcknowitall wrote:
OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?...

Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!..

Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e!
Shame on you ,
All you people spitting venom and and now ready to hang him from the nearest lampost whilst spitting on his green hat and jacket seriously need to have a word with yourselves.
This was the best manager we have had in the past 20 years ,who both entertained and fulfilled fans ,who brought some real pride back to a club that had been devoid of a spark for some considerable time .
I for one thank him and wish him all the best in the future .
[quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: OH! ...Where has 'International robin' got too with this 'get Paolo back petition'?... Don't like to say I told you so...but I did tell you so didn't I!!!.. Now get over it & move on all those fans that had thier heads so far up this jumped up & pathetic mans a**e![/p][/quote]Shame on you , All you people spitting venom and and now ready to hang him from the nearest lampost whilst spitting on his green hat and jacket seriously need to have a word with yourselves. This was the best manager we have had in the past 20 years ,who both entertained and fulfilled fans ,who brought some real pride back to a club that had been devoid of a spark for some considerable time . I for one thank him and wish him all the best in the future . zigounette and ballons

7:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

candlestrobe says...

Only an ill-advised buffoon would hold a prospective new employer to ransom with a deadline 'witnessed by a solicitor'.

I also suspect that because him and his mate Spencer didn't earn any beer money from Ritchie's sale, that's the real reason he's annoyed.

On a separate note, Town played better last night than they did at Wembley.
Only an ill-advised buffoon would hold a prospective new employer to ransom with a deadline 'witnessed by a solicitor'. I also suspect that because him and his mate Spencer didn't earn any beer money from Ritchie's sale, that's the real reason he's annoyed. On a separate note, Town played better last night than they did at Wembley. candlestrobe

7:03pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Stratton Red says...

GUVS MASTER wrote:
Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!
C0ck...
[quote][p][bold]GUVS MASTER[/bold] wrote: Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!![/p][/quote]C0ck... Stratton Red

7:03pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

M.Dobbo wrote:
Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season.
Dobbo.
It began last night - its curtains -watch the attendances nosedive after that showing. Saturday's result will determine whether the players have any fight for a win promotion battle or whether they will just cave in and a slide to a mid table finish will begin. Sadly I suspect the latter and T.I.T.s (Trotters Independent Traders) of Banbury, Swindon & Bourne have a huge job to convince the Town faithful that their involvement is any more than a "jolly boys outing".

Why do I say that? because if anyone heard Callum "whatisname" on BBC Wilts last night they'd have thought they were listening to "whispering Bob Harris" on Whistle Test rather than somebody who'd just acquired an interest is a potentially successful football club.
[quote][p][bold]M.Dobbo[/bold] wrote: Lose on Saturday at Coventry and the demise begins, Div One next season. Dobbo.[/p][/quote]It began last night - its curtains -watch the attendances nosedive after that showing. Saturday's result will determine whether the players have any fight for a win promotion battle or whether they will just cave in and a slide to a mid table finish will begin. Sadly I suspect the latter and T.I.T.s (Trotters Independent Traders) of Banbury, Swindon & Bourne have a huge job to convince the Town faithful that their involvement is any more than a "jolly boys outing". Why do I say that? because if anyone heard Callum "whatisname" on BBC Wilts last night they'd have thought they were listening to "whispering Bob Harris" on Whistle Test rather than somebody who'd just acquired an interest is a potentially successful football club. The Jockster

7:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13

the wizard says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Ha ha where did the petition get you
I didn't agree with the petition either, but, it was the idea of somebody who obviously supports the club with a passion. Nothing wrong with that, but it was rather sadly misplaced, however, that said I'd rather a thousand fans with passion as opposed to none at all.
Right now we all need to get behind the players, whether they are managing the team or just playing or on the bench, whatever, as long as they are trying their best irrelevant of the results we should be fair and square behind them.
Take note of the Pompey supporters not so long ago. if they can do it so can we, and our situation must be one of envy to them just now as they await a further points deduction, that could have been us chaps, and it very nearly was, take note.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Ha ha where did the petition get you[/p][/quote]I didn't agree with the petition either, but, it was the idea of somebody who obviously supports the club with a passion. Nothing wrong with that, but it was rather sadly misplaced, however, that said I'd rather a thousand fans with passion as opposed to none at all. Right now we all need to get behind the players, whether they are managing the team or just playing or on the bench, whatever, as long as they are trying their best irrelevant of the results we should be fair and square behind them. Take note of the Pompey supporters not so long ago. if they can do it so can we, and our situation must be one of envy to them just now as they await a further points deduction, that could have been us chaps, and it very nearly was, take note. the wizard

7:06pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Always red says...

Was Paolo being filmed at the PDC
All about me museum .
Look at my pictures,look at my shoes
Look at my big head it's bigger than yours.
It would have been nice to thank the town faithful for all our support while he was here....but that just sums the man up ......A selfish tw@t.
Was Paolo being filmed at the PDC All about me museum . Look at my pictures,look at my shoes Look at my big head it's bigger than yours. It would have been nice to thank the town faithful for all our support while he was here....but that just sums the man up ......A selfish tw@t. Always red

7:07pm Wed 27 Feb 13

zigounette and ballons says...

I hope steve coppells interest is genuine as he would bring that winning mentality back ,and who possess very good footballing pedigree ,he would be my choice
I hope steve coppells interest is genuine as he would bring that winning mentality back ,and who possess very good footballing pedigree ,he would be my choice zigounette and ballons

7:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13

SimonPrice351 says...

Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago.

Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.
Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago. Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured. SimonPrice351

7:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Personally I would like to see Hasslebank take the job. He sounds passionate, played at the highest level both domestically and internationally. He has coaching experience at Chelsea and of late was doing well at Forest. With a steady number two he would certainly be my choice and attract the extra coffers through media interest perhaps not on the PDC scale granted.
Personally I would like to see Hasslebank take the job. He sounds passionate, played at the highest level both domestically and internationally. He has coaching experience at Chelsea and of late was doing well at Forest. With a steady number two he would certainly be my choice and attract the extra coffers through media interest perhaps not on the PDC scale granted. Ollie Reed's Parky dance!

7:10pm Wed 27 Feb 13

KevSTFC says...

Hoddle until the end of the season please.
Hoddle until the end of the season please. KevSTFC

7:12pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcknowitall says...

sp1dersw3b wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
sp1dersw3b wrote: stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above!
Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?
Thank you for your marvellous contribution to debate on here - must be nearly bedtime for you, good night.
Oh really! Lol how sweet of you goodnight!
[quote][p][bold]sp1dersw3b[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sp1dersw3b[/bold] wrote: stfcknowitall - IR - as you can see above![/p][/quote]Are you IR's little donkey or somethin?[/p][/quote]Thank you for your marvellous contribution to debate on here - must be nearly bedtime for you, good night.[/p][/quote]Oh really! Lol how sweet of you goodnight! stfcknowitall

7:13pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

snazzle wrote:
Please can someone explain why the 5pm deadline.....what would have changed at 5.01pm? He had already met the new owners, It seems that it was a mutual ageement between both parties both knowing whatever the outcome PDC would would not be at Swindon once takeover had been sorted. God bless you all for the honesty shown????
"The Chase" is on ITV at 5pm. He probably wanted to settle down in front of that with a nice cup of tea and a cake.
[quote][p][bold]snazzle[/bold] wrote: Please can someone explain why the 5pm deadline.....what would have changed at 5.01pm? He had already met the new owners, It seems that it was a mutual ageement between both parties both knowing whatever the outcome PDC would would not be at Swindon once takeover had been sorted. God bless you all for the honesty shown????[/p][/quote]"The Chase" is on ITV at 5pm. He probably wanted to settle down in front of that with a nice cup of tea and a cake. Jeremy Hilary Boob

7:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Oi Den! wrote:
mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Poor old Compo. If it's not Nora Batty giving him grief it's PDC and Spencer chasing him down the road. Some people just seem to get more than their fair share of bad luck.
Yeah and Clegg's in the cacky too about Rennard-whoever he is! Its only Foggy who's OK.

Not sure I'd want to be a Ring Master or perhaps a Master of the Ring -seems some inside knowledge might be needed for that jobbie laddie!
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]Poor old Compo. If it's not Nora Batty giving him grief it's PDC and Spencer chasing him down the road. Some people just seem to get more than their fair share of bad luck.[/p][/quote]Yeah and Clegg's in the cacky too about Rennard-whoever he is! Its only Foggy who's OK. Not sure I'd want to be a Ring Master or perhaps a Master of the Ring -seems some inside knowledge might be needed for that jobbie laddie! The Jockster

7:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.
STFC could not afford him.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team. Hate agreeing with you on the last point.[/p][/quote]STFC could not afford him. LydiardRED67

7:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Oldhamred says...

Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit.

J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning.

A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment.

Patey for being a liar.

PDC for walking when he should have stood firm.

P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get.

As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell.

And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.
Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit. J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning. A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment. Patey for being a liar. PDC for walking when he should have stood firm. P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get. As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell. And as usual the losers are The Fans once again. Oldhamred

7:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Always red says...

Oldhamred wrote:
Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit.

J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning.

A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment.

Patey for being a liar.

PDC for walking when he should have stood firm.

P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get.

As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell.

And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.
Very true
[quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit. J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning. A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment. Patey for being a liar. PDC for walking when he should have stood firm. P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get. As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell. And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.[/p][/quote]Very true Always red

7:21pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Hoverish says...

Calderwood?
Calderwood? Hoverish

7:22pm Wed 27 Feb 13

super reds says...

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago.

Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.
Whilst I agree with you about people turning on Paolo it's no surprise when you see the Sky interview, as others have said before it's all me me me & fcuk you jack I'm ok, my opinion of him has changed a little & I don't have as much respect for him as I used to.

Olly Read, yes I think JFH would be a good choice
[quote][p][bold]SimonPrice351[/bold] wrote: Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago. Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with you about people turning on Paolo it's no surprise when you see the Sky interview, as others have said before it's all me me me & fcuk you jack I'm ok, my opinion of him has changed a little & I don't have as much respect for him as I used to. Olly Read, yes I think JFH would be a good choice super reds

7:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

mancrobin says...

Rebel_phish wrote:
Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post.

I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long.

I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events.

I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility.

Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought.

As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood.

I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over.

On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short.

Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done.

Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.
Comparison to Lou, Ossie and Glen? Lou possibly and forwarding addresses may turn out similar.

Ossie and Glen not really but then it was a different context. I always thought that Swindon's success in that era was good succession. Ossie inherited a fit squad from Lou who he taught how to play football who passed that team on to a master architect.

I rate PdC alongside Wilson. They achieved very similar, expect Wilson did it with less money and less to say.
[quote][p][bold]Rebel_phish[/bold] wrote: Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post. I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long. I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events. I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility. Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought. As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood. I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over. On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short. Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done. Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.[/p][/quote]Comparison to Lou, Ossie and Glen? Lou possibly and forwarding addresses may turn out similar. Ossie and Glen not really but then it was a different context. I always thought that Swindon's success in that era was good succession. Ossie inherited a fit squad from Lou who he taught how to play football who passed that team on to a master architect. I rate PdC alongside Wilson. They achieved very similar, expect Wilson did it with less money and less to say. mancrobin

7:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

old town robin says...

super reds wrote:
mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.
The only thing he could sue us for would be the same as Curbishley did with West Ham after resigning. If it was in his contract that players couldn't be sold without consultation and his agreement, it could be construed the old board were in breach of contract when they sold Ritchie. If Black & Co are telling the truth he would have no grounds, but to be honest I don't think any of us know who to trust and believe.
[quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.[/p][/quote]The only thing he could sue us for would be the same as Curbishley did with West Ham after resigning. If it was in his contract that players couldn't be sold without consultation and his agreement, it could be construed the old board were in breach of contract when they sold Ritchie. If Black & Co are telling the truth he would have no grounds, but to be honest I don't think any of us know who to trust and believe. old town robin

7:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jets there'd says...

Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground. Jets there'd

7:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13

red white says...

International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.
I agree i am gutted and saddened.

We went top last week
exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions.

We would have done the same this season too.

What a waste.
[quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.[/p][/quote]I agree i am gutted and saddened. We went top last week exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions. We would have done the same this season too. What a waste. red white

7:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Park North Red says...

At least it's all put to bed now and we can move on. No more speculation. He's said all he has to say and we need a new manager to move us forward again
At least it's all put to bed now and we can move on. No more speculation. He's said all he has to say and we need a new manager to move us forward again Park North Red

7:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Airframe-dtm says...

arkells wrote:
well paolo i for one wanted u back but reading your statement i have second thoughts, thanks for your time here, now collect your toys and put them back in your pram
Agree with you Arkells!
[quote][p][bold]arkells[/bold] wrote: well paolo i for one wanted u back but reading your statement i have second thoughts, thanks for your time here, now collect your toys and put them back in your pram[/p][/quote]Agree with you Arkells! Airframe-dtm

7:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Oldhamred says...

old town robin wrote:
super reds wrote:
mallorca wrote:
Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo.
As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas.
So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING
As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months??????
so what´s new.
I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got
Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.
The only thing he could sue us for would be the same as Curbishley did with West Ham after resigning. If it was in his contract that players couldn't be sold without consultation and his agreement, it could be construed the old board were in breach of contract when they sold Ritchie. If Black & Co are telling the truth he would have no grounds, but to be honest I don't think any of us know who to trust and believe.
They are all history now, so for me they can sue and counter sue each other 'til the end of time.

Let them drag their own names through the dirt instead of ours.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mallorca[/bold] wrote: Right straight from the Hprses mouth he resigned,walked away. Next thing is him and Spence will be chasing Compo. As for last night even if Pdc had been here they would have lost.I´m amazed how well the team has coped with all the off field Sagas. So hope we get a new Boss in asap and no more silly posts etc petition to bring Dicanio back he has said he aint COMING As fotr the post who said we would be skint again in 12 months?????? so what´s new. I just hope whoever comes in gets the same finacial backing that the Ring Master Got[/p][/quote]Spencer cannot sue for compo as he wasn't employed by Swindon, he was Di Canios agent & as Di Canio resigned I doubt he can either, what can he sue for, he gave the club an ultimatum which was totally out of their control & resigned because of it, would be laughed out of court IMO.[/p][/quote]The only thing he could sue us for would be the same as Curbishley did with West Ham after resigning. If it was in his contract that players couldn't be sold without consultation and his agreement, it could be construed the old board were in breach of contract when they sold Ritchie. If Black & Co are telling the truth he would have no grounds, but to be honest I don't think any of us know who to trust and believe.[/p][/quote]They are all history now, so for me they can sue and counter sue each other 'til the end of time. Let them drag their own names through the dirt instead of ours. Oldhamred

7:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Stratton Red wrote:
GUVS MASTER wrote: Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!!
C0ck...
How was he being a c0ck...

Paolo did a good job with a very large budget THEN HE WALKED BECAUSE HE NEVER GOT HIS OWN WAY...

We all new that this was going to happen as it has always been about paolo and no one else
[quote][p][bold]Stratton Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GUVS MASTER[/bold] wrote: Prehaps all of you 'dreamers' will all stop banging on about Di Canio coming back now... You have just heard it straight from the horses mouth on Sky Sports... he couldnt get his own way so he walked and he doesnt regret it either!! MR 'ITS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME' DI CANIO IS NOT COMING BACK, END OF STORY!!! Now please move on... its finished with!! Time fo look forward now, support the new manager (whoever that may be) and stop living in the past!! A new chapter has begun!! Jed its time to pull your finger out of your bum and find a new manager and fast!! We're all behind you... COYR!![/p][/quote]C0ck...[/p][/quote]How was he being a c0ck... Paolo did a good job with a very large budget THEN HE WALKED BECAUSE HE NEVER GOT HIS OWN WAY... We all new that this was going to happen as it has always been about paolo and no one else DarrenSTFCRomain

7:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! et al et al! and Uncle Tom Cobleigh & all!!
[quote][p][bold]Hoverish[/bold] wrote: Calderwood?[/p][/quote]ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! et al et al! and Uncle Tom Cobleigh & all!! The Jockster

7:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

old town robin says...

see paolo's pet dog got some air time, looked like Churchills brother, don't think he was running roundl Liddington on a Sunday morning
see paolo's pet dog got some air time, looked like Churchills brother, don't think he was running roundl Liddington on a Sunday morning old town robin

7:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nosyrudeman says...

ya mums got facial hair wrote:
The great times being a town fan has evaporated yet again. People wonder why we can't get big gates. Good luck Paolo just a shame you was stitched up. I guess it's time to move on with no ambition from the new clowns. Autograph signings in old town late on Saturday
We do have got big gates for a club in Div 1, for a club of our size, along with all the migrants to this town over many years who have no affiliation to support STFC. Also let their kids wear Prem club shirts. The demise of new blood to many a lower league club.
[quote][p][bold]ya mums got facial hair[/bold] wrote: The great times being a town fan has evaporated yet again. People wonder why we can't get big gates. Good luck Paolo just a shame you was stitched up. I guess it's time to move on with no ambition from the new clowns. Autograph signings in old town late on Saturday[/p][/quote]We do have got big gates for a club in Div 1, for a club of our size, along with all the migrants to this town over many years who have no affiliation to support STFC. Also let their kids wear Prem club shirts. The demise of new blood to many a lower league club. nosyrudeman

7:51pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Lazaat says...

I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time! Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you. Lazaat

7:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13

red white says...

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?
NO !
[quote][p][bold]Hoverish[/bold] wrote: Calderwood?[/p][/quote]NO ! red white

7:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

davel4848 says...

Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.
Yes Lazaat, I think that sums up how the majority of us feel about this whole episode.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time! Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.[/p][/quote]Yes Lazaat, I think that sums up how the majority of us feel about this whole episode. davel4848

7:55pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sameoldstfc69 says...

Such a shame hearing the bad news.
I am not surprised but still hoped for PDC to return but you can only take so much carp before you say enough is enough. Christ only knows what is going to happen now the board have stated their No.1 aim was to get promotion but that is untrue as PDC was not even asked to stop on.He got carped on from a great height and I can't blame the guy for walking.
If the board did not want him why have they not got another man lined up?
We seem to have gone back to the dark ages with this sorry state of affairs and it's only the fans that seem to suffer.
Had some great memories with PDC as many of the fans have and wish him all the best.
Lets hope the board can finally get their head out of their jacksie and get a new man in ASAP.
PDC has to go down for me as one of our greatest managers and it is a real downer it finished the way it did.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=JpcUHNLvq
GM
Such a shame hearing the bad news. I am not surprised but still hoped for PDC to return but you can only take so much carp before you say enough is enough. Christ only knows what is going to happen now the board have stated their No.1 aim was to get promotion but that is untrue as PDC was not even asked to stop on.He got carped on from a great height and I can't blame the guy for walking. If the board did not want him why have they not got another man lined up? We seem to have gone back to the dark ages with this sorry state of affairs and it's only the fans that seem to suffer. Had some great memories with PDC as many of the fans have and wish him all the best. Lets hope the board can finally get their head out of their jacksie and get a new man in ASAP. PDC has to go down for me as one of our greatest managers and it is a real downer it finished the way it did. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=JpcUHNLvq GM sameoldstfc69

7:56pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

Loved pdc time with us and we will miss him but i now find him a man of double standards. 1 he says players need to be totaly focused on the game so pdc was before the crawley game then.2 players should talk about contracts in the summer er yes so what were you doing. 3 the sneer he gave fans who stood up.4 walking out 24 hrs before a game. Good luck finding a new job because i dont think it will be in the premier .
Loved pdc time with us and we will miss him but i now find him a man of double standards. 1 he says players need to be totaly focused on the game so pdc was before the crawley game then.2 players should talk about contracts in the summer er yes so what were you doing. 3 the sneer he gave fans who stood up.4 walking out 24 hrs before a game. Good luck finding a new job because i dont think it will be in the premier . jayden

8:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

The Jockster wrote:
Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! et al et al! and Uncle Tom Cobleigh & all!!
Jock you wanted names of players on the lash the two i know of were on the lash on sunday at wembley were L.R and A.F. Others who i dont know were in a night club sat .Hmmmm happy days are here again lets get Duggie back as player manager.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoverish[/bold] wrote: Calderwood?[/p][/quote]ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! et al et al! and Uncle Tom Cobleigh & all!![/p][/quote]Jock you wanted names of players on the lash the two i know of were on the lash on sunday at wembley were L.R and A.F. Others who i dont know were in a night club sat .Hmmmm happy days are here again lets get Duggie back as player manager. jayden

8:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
Oh dear .......love truly IS blind !
[quote][p][bold]tj@ramsbury[/bold] wrote: Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.[/p][/quote]Oh dear .......love truly IS blind ! stfcphil

8:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sagadude says...

There are a lot of deluded juveniles on this forum, that obviously do not remember the Hoddle and McMahon days!.

PDC was McMahon the 2nd, thinking he was bigger than the club. A great motivator and manager but at too great a cost. Whereas Hoddle stuck at it, got us too the premier then deserved to move on to something bigger than Swindon.

We get 8000 crowds for Christ sake.

If PDC had of stayed we would have been in the championship but straight down again with a massive debt!

New sensible manager, then patience and a new stadium then maybe we can emulate Reading's success.
There are a lot of deluded juveniles on this forum, that obviously do not remember the Hoddle and McMahon days!. PDC was McMahon the 2nd, thinking he was bigger than the club. A great motivator and manager but at too great a cost. Whereas Hoddle stuck at it, got us too the premier then deserved to move on to something bigger than Swindon. We get 8000 crowds for Christ sake. If PDC had of stayed we would have been in the championship but straight down again with a massive debt! New sensible manager, then patience and a new stadium then maybe we can emulate Reading's success. sagadude

8:15pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Black Hand says...

stfcphil wrote:
tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
Oh dear .......love truly IS blind !
Got to agree with stfcphil,Northampton game, marathon,etc etc. Still Paolo haters will be pleased that the new board were meeting Tommy and Wardy at 3pm and no statement yet, with most of the top teams still to play away at least he got us enough points to play L1 again next year.
[quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tj@ramsbury[/bold] wrote: Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.[/p][/quote]Oh dear .......love truly IS blind ![/p][/quote]Got to agree with stfcphil,Northampton game, marathon,etc etc. Still Paolo haters will be pleased that the new board were meeting Tommy and Wardy at 3pm and no statement yet, with most of the top teams still to play away at least he got us enough points to play L1 again next year. The Black Hand

8:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.
Agree whole heartedly.

In time, I think he may regret his early departure from the Town.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

Lets see if he just "walks" into a top job in the summer, or any job for that matter.

Perhaps Pompey might have him to get them out of L2 next season.
[quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time! Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.[/p][/quote]Agree whole heartedly. In time, I think he may regret his early departure from the Town. The grass is always greener on the other side. Lets see if he just "walks" into a top job in the summer, or any job for that matter. Perhaps Pompey might have him to get them out of L2 next season. Rebel_phish

8:23pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay, stfcphil

8:23pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Airframe-dtm says...

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Jets I was thinking the same! He will have to go to another training pool before swimming with the bigger fish!
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Jets I was thinking the same! He will have to go to another training pool before swimming with the bigger fish! Airframe-dtm

8:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
[quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on. Wilesy

8:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

mick the tetburyred says...

Yes I was a massive supporter of PDC and yes unfortunately I feel that our promotion challenge may fade away to a 9th place finish but its time for a reality check!!.
Last night myself and several other supporters were talking to a member of the new board after the game.He told us that had the club gone into administration we would have been expelled from the Football League!!.
Despite what some of you may feel,they are as desperate as the fans for the club to earn a place in the championship this season!!.Regards the new manager he stated that they need to ensure that they appoint the right man so that the momentum gained this season continues on the pitch!!,a very sensible reaction I think!!.
Don't forget that the new men have only been in charge for just one week,lets reserve judgement on them for a little while longer yet and be thankful that STFC are still alive !!!.
Yes I was a massive supporter of PDC and yes unfortunately I feel that our promotion challenge may fade away to a 9th place finish but its time for a reality check!!. Last night myself and several other supporters were talking to a member of the new board after the game.He told us that had the club gone into administration we would have been expelled from the Football League!!. Despite what some of you may feel,they are as desperate as the fans for the club to earn a place in the championship this season!!.Regards the new manager he stated that they need to ensure that they appoint the right man so that the momentum gained this season continues on the pitch!!,a very sensible reaction I think!!. Don't forget that the new men have only been in charge for just one week,lets reserve judgement on them for a little while longer yet and be thankful that STFC are still alive !!!. mick the tetburyred

8:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

FORZASTFC says...

Arrivaderci Paolo!
Thanks for the ups & downs & the memories.
We now have closure.
We are STFC, now let's move on from this...............
Arrivaderci Paolo! Thanks for the ups & downs & the memories. We now have closure. We are STFC, now let's move on from this............... FORZASTFC

8:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Med Red says...

stfcphil wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.
[quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,[/p][/quote]Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening. Med Red

8:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti
ng
Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti ng Ollie Reed's Parky dance!

8:52pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Glosteroldboy says...

It was the best of times and it was the worst of times...
Something which we have always suffered from and something which we are destined to live by, but what a journey it has been over the last ten years, and what a journey it will still be in ten years time...
Loyal supporter of the club.
It was the best of times and it was the worst of times... Something which we have always suffered from and something which we are destined to live by, but what a journey it has been over the last ten years, and what a journey it will still be in ten years time... Loyal supporter of the club. Glosteroldboy

8:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

Med Red wrote:
stfcphil wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.
since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,[/p][/quote]Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.[/p][/quote]since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore Davidsyrett

9:05pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Med Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Med Red wrote:
stfcphil wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.
since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore
It's not a case of running after an employee, it's called common courtesy. As for Paolo sulking, no, he realised he wasn't wanted and walked.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,[/p][/quote]Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.[/p][/quote]since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore[/p][/quote]It's not a case of running after an employee, it's called common courtesy. As for Paolo sulking, no, he realised he wasn't wanted and walked. Med Red

9:11pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LeGod says...

mickthetetburyred - if that is true and i have no reason to disbelieve you then and its has need to for a long time football seriously needs to have a reality check and get its house in order from the top of the tree ie the premier league and all other leagues.
Football has been bobbing along with a number of clubs living on the bread line and if we had been expelled from the league as was mentioned by the FL as it would have been our third time in administration its about time the the whole football situation is looked at and the funding of TV etc is dished out fairer than what it is. The problem is the premier league teams dont give a toss about anything outside of their league and year on year all lower league clubs struggle to survive on very tight budgets and have to look year on year on ways of making ends meet.
The whole system is very unfair and the gap is getting wider and wider and in all honesty the premier league is not all its cracked up to be but its more exciting to watch than most leagues which is why it is sold globally but the reason in most cases it is sold globally and what makes it more exciting are in my view down the the fans and the atmosphere they create in the stadiums as i think alot of the games you see are very average.
i know what im saying will never happen but there are a number of clubs in L1&2 struggling financially and then you have the pompey situation which has been going on for over a year
Unless something drastic happens soon with finances dished out more equally there will be a few clubs going to the wall and luckily we have escaped this time because if we had i would have given up watching football as no way could i support another team apart from my home town club.
So lets hope our club has been secured for a long time to come and we can enjoy success on the pitch as it always seems to be that when we start having a bit of success we get kicked in the teeth by something off the pitch and we have had our fair share of that as fans of STFC and i hope this is finally the last time and we can grow from strength to strength.
Thank you Jed and your fellow consortium colleagues for saving us but please dont let our season dwindle away now sort some players out to be added to the squad and our new manager.
mickthetetburyred - if that is true and i have no reason to disbelieve you then and its has need to for a long time football seriously needs to have a reality check and get its house in order from the top of the tree ie the premier league and all other leagues. Football has been bobbing along with a number of clubs living on the bread line and if we had been expelled from the league as was mentioned by the FL as it would have been our third time in administration its about time the the whole football situation is looked at and the funding of TV etc is dished out fairer than what it is. The problem is the premier league teams dont give a toss about anything outside of their league and year on year all lower league clubs struggle to survive on very tight budgets and have to look year on year on ways of making ends meet. The whole system is very unfair and the gap is getting wider and wider and in all honesty the premier league is not all its cracked up to be but its more exciting to watch than most leagues which is why it is sold globally but the reason in most cases it is sold globally and what makes it more exciting are in my view down the the fans and the atmosphere they create in the stadiums as i think alot of the games you see are very average. i know what im saying will never happen but there are a number of clubs in L1&2 struggling financially and then you have the pompey situation which has been going on for over a year Unless something drastic happens soon with finances dished out more equally there will be a few clubs going to the wall and luckily we have escaped this time because if we had i would have given up watching football as no way could i support another team apart from my home town club. So lets hope our club has been secured for a long time to come and we can enjoy success on the pitch as it always seems to be that when we start having a bit of success we get kicked in the teeth by something off the pitch and we have had our fair share of that as fans of STFC and i hope this is finally the last time and we can grow from strength to strength. Thank you Jed and your fellow consortium colleagues for saving us but please dont let our season dwindle away now sort some players out to be added to the squad and our new manager. LeGod

9:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

glasred says...

PDC is a straight talker and tells the truth.
He does not **** about and sticks to his guns.
I Thank you PDC for the genious you gave us in your time here and wish you every success wherever you go.
I think that we should get Paul Tisdale from Exeter,and then maybe,just maybe this season will end in a canter and not a whimper. COYR!
PDC is a straight talker and tells the truth. He does not **** about and sticks to his guns. I Thank you PDC for the genious you gave us in your time here and wish you every success wherever you go. I think that we should get Paul Tisdale from Exeter,and then maybe,just maybe this season will end in a canter and not a whimper. COYR! glasred

9:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ChippyBOB. says...

PAOLO PAOLO PAOLO wake up mate.
I was one of your bigest fans in the end, but the way in which you have gone about leaving us is all one sided.... YOURS!!!!
"That is not fair for the fans" hey and you jumping ship is?????
Yes the way the club delt with the sale of Matt Ritchie I agree seems to have been lacking in comunication.
But..
“I didn’t see a very strong desire from someone to keep Paolo Di Canio in the club" and Paolo Dicanio did???? OBVIOUSLY not or you or your agent would have made a call yourself to Jed or the new board to ask the question.
I thought when the going gets tough the tough are supposed to get on with it, but you have dumped a winnig side in the mire..... you should have stayed until the end of the season at least, you owed that to us the fans.......! and then you could have made your choice from then.
If you are going to leave when times are troubled be prepared for rocky ride in managment.
Thanks for where you got us but the fact is you've turned you back on us
PAOLO PAOLO PAOLO wake up mate. I was one of your bigest fans in the end, but the way in which you have gone about leaving us is all one sided.... YOURS!!!! "That is not fair for the fans" hey and you jumping ship is????? Yes the way the club delt with the sale of Matt Ritchie I agree seems to have been lacking in comunication. But.. “I didn’t see a very strong desire from someone to keep Paolo Di Canio in the club" and Paolo Dicanio did???? OBVIOUSLY not or you or your agent would have made a call yourself to Jed or the new board to ask the question. I thought when the going gets tough the tough are supposed to get on with it, but you have dumped a winnig side in the mire..... you should have stayed until the end of the season at least, you owed that to us the fans.......! and then you could have made your choice from then. If you are going to leave when times are troubled be prepared for rocky ride in managment. Thanks for where you got us but the fact is you've turned you back on us ChippyBOB.

9:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape. The Jockster

9:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joey butler says...

Hoverish wrote:
Calderwood?
Yes, you are correct for sure.

And why not?
[quote][p][bold]Hoverish[/bold] wrote: Calderwood?[/p][/quote]Yes, you are correct for sure. And why not? joey butler

9:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another.

We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.
Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another. We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision. dreamofacleansheet2

9:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

tally38 says...

TERRY BUTCHER LAST GAME INCHARGE OF IVERNESS CT TONIGHT
TERRY BUTCHER LAST GAME INCHARGE OF IVERNESS CT TONIGHT tally38

9:28pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

PS -should have added -and what plans do you have Callum to get us promoted this year given that its supposed to be the priority? - but is it?
PS -should have added -and what plans do you have Callum to get us promoted this year given that its supposed to be the priority? - but is it? The Jockster

9:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

mancrobin wrote:
Rebel_phish wrote:
Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post.

I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long.

I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events.

I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility.

Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought.

As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood.

I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over.

On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short.

Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done.

Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.
Comparison to Lou, Ossie and Glen? Lou possibly and forwarding addresses may turn out similar.

Ossie and Glen not really but then it was a different context. I always thought that Swindon's success in that era was good succession. Ossie inherited a fit squad from Lou who he taught how to play football who passed that team on to a master architect.

I rate PdC alongside Wilson. They achieved very similar, expect Wilson did it with less money and less to say.
Really? A championship, a trip to Wembley in the JPT, regularly beating higher league opposition, the fittest, most disciplined team in the league and leaving us in an automatic promotion place.

Compared to a trip to Wembley in the play offs when we should have already been promoted, turning a good team into a lazy, flabby, bickering, ill disciplined rabble and leaving us in the relegation places.

Not sure that is similar.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rebel_phish[/bold] wrote: Thanks Paolo for all the good times that you have brought to the club, thoroughly enjoyed your tenure in the manager's post. I regret the manner in your departure. I feel that some form of tounge holding and decorum was needed. Why, oh why walk away from a job half done. Why not stay and try for promotion. It was only another 15 games or 10 weeks work. Surely he could stick it out for that long. I've heard your side of the story and that of Mr Black. I've heard Jed McCorys take on events. I sincerely feel that the new board though they were buying a club with a good, incumbant manager, and that promotion was a real posibility. Having listened to Callum Rice's interview yesterday on BBC Wilts, this point clearly came across to be the line of thought. As we know Paolo is a man of principle and has fallen foul of his own strict disaplines. Once he said he was going and the deadline passed and as he said, no one contacted him, then his decision stood. I feel let down by Paolo. I for one would not have blamed him for going at the end of the season. But he did not give the new board any chance, putting forward demands and time-scales that they, at the time, could not meet or had no control over. On purely footballing reasons, I thought you were easily going to eclipse the achievements of Lou, Ossie and Glenn but by your actions, you have fallen woefully short. Thing is I also think that you feel totally vindicated by your actions and can see no wrong in what you have done. Thanks Paolo, but a sorry end to a great period.[/p][/quote]Comparison to Lou, Ossie and Glen? Lou possibly and forwarding addresses may turn out similar. Ossie and Glen not really but then it was a different context. I always thought that Swindon's success in that era was good succession. Ossie inherited a fit squad from Lou who he taught how to play football who passed that team on to a master architect. I rate PdC alongside Wilson. They achieved very similar, expect Wilson did it with less money and less to say.[/p][/quote]Really? A championship, a trip to Wembley in the JPT, regularly beating higher league opposition, the fittest, most disciplined team in the league and leaving us in an automatic promotion place. Compared to a trip to Wembley in the play offs when we should have already been promoted, turning a good team into a lazy, flabby, bickering, ill disciplined rabble and leaving us in the relegation places. Not sure that is similar. Pewsham Red

9:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken? LydiardRED67

9:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nosyrudeman says...

Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out. nosyrudeman

9:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

Med Red wrote:
stfcphil wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.
Certainly was never a Di Canio "hater", ludicrous term if ever I've heard one by the way. I thought Di Canio was fantastic, Sang his name, bought the t-shirt, raved about him to anybody who would listen and many that didn't want to. But his actions at the end were inexcusable, childish, petulant and attention seeking. As a fan who thought he was the best thing that ever happened to Swindon, he sh*t on me from a great height,
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,[/p][/quote]Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.[/p][/quote]Certainly was never a Di Canio "hater", ludicrous term if ever I've heard one by the way. I thought Di Canio was fantastic, Sang his name, bought the t-shirt, raved about him to anybody who would listen and many that didn't want to. But his actions at the end were inexcusable, childish, petulant and attention seeking. As a fan who thought he was the best thing that ever happened to Swindon, he sh*t on me from a great height, stfcphil

9:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rondogers says...

I'm in two minds whether to wish him well for the future or to make a Di Canio Voodoo doll (with green jacket) and stick pins through it.

To be honest I think we all new it would end in tears, just a bit disappointed with his reasons (excuses) for leaving. I don't think he would have left like that if it was a bigger club.

Anyway i'm bored of it all now!
I'm in two minds whether to wish him well for the future or to make a Di Canio Voodoo doll (with green jacket) and stick pins through it. To be honest I think we all new it would end in tears, just a bit disappointed with his reasons (excuses) for leaving. I don't think he would have left like that if it was a bigger club. Anyway i'm bored of it all now! Rondogers

9:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.
Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts.

Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!!

Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.[/p][/quote]Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts. Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!! Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30! Pewsham Red

9:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

oldtownred says...

Di Canio says 'the chapter is over'. STFC fans say the story continues. It was an interesting chapter but he was the custodian and has shown he is not the club.
He goes down in Swindon history with an ignominious ending that will haunt him forever and a reputation that was extremely high is now tainted.
The next chapter will bring joy or disappointment, but it is OUR story and with STFC it is never dull.
Turn the page, look forward and lets hope for some inspired and strong leadership from the incumbents that will show they mean business and have the nous to know that now is the time for them show us they have what it takes to display decisive leadership qualities..........
Di Canio says 'the chapter is over'. STFC fans say the story continues. It was an interesting chapter but he was the custodian and has shown he is not the club. He goes down in Swindon history with an ignominious ending that will haunt him forever and a reputation that was extremely high is now tainted. The next chapter will bring joy or disappointment, but it is OUR story and with STFC it is never dull. Turn the page, look forward and lets hope for some inspired and strong leadership from the incumbents that will show they mean business and have the nous to know that now is the time for them show us they have what it takes to display decisive leadership qualities.......... oldtownred

9:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement. Pewsham Red

9:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Di kanny oh says...

red white wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.
I agree i am gutted and saddened.

We went top last week
exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions.

We would have done the same this season too.

What a waste.
red white told you yesterday that Di Canio will not be back and you said how do I know. Well I just did.
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.[/p][/quote]I agree i am gutted and saddened. We went top last week exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions. We would have done the same this season too. What a waste.[/p][/quote]red white told you yesterday that Di Canio will not be back and you said how do I know. Well I just did. Di kanny oh

9:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joey butler says...

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago.

Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.
And Simon,

Your credibility means nothing.

In very recent days, you named and shamed a photo of the new Board.

Only problem was, the photo was of our two temporary managers and both current players.

You know nothing, sorry, bu you are very sad!
[quote][p][bold]SimonPrice351[/bold] wrote: Amazing how many people have turned on Paolo, after he was spoken about in almost God-like tones by the same people not 12 months ago. Thanks for the memories Paolo, your place in Town history is assured.[/p][/quote]And Simon, Your credibility means nothing. In very recent days, you named and shamed a photo of the new Board. Only problem was, the photo was of our two temporary managers and both current players. You know nothing, sorry, bu you are very sad! joey butler

9:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.
Nobody was managed out. Thing changed, that has always been agreed.

A strong and loyal,person who demands passion and commitment acts differently to PDC.

I wanted him to stay, and until this press conference thought there was still a chance.

Unfortunately, his true colours are shining through.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team. Hate agreeing with you on the last point.[/p][/quote]Nobody was managed out. Thing changed, that has always been agreed. A strong and loyal,person who demands passion and commitment acts differently to PDC. I wanted him to stay, and until this press conference thought there was still a chance. Unfortunately, his true colours are shining through. LydiardRED67

9:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in. Jeremy Hilary Boob

9:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rondogers says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.
What about Ooooh Shaun Taylor? think he is Lingy's assistant at Torquay?

Maybe just until end of season? although he is probably busy at Torquay due to Lingy's health problems?
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]What about Ooooh Shaun Taylor? think he is Lingy's assistant at Torquay? Maybe just until end of season? although he is probably busy at Torquay due to Lingy's health problems? Rondogers

9:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

the wizard says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button. the wizard

9:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Mikey107 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Spot on 100% my thoughts also.

I think that's clear to see now we've heard all sides of it.

If anyone thinks Paolo didn't do a great job look how the team played last night.

As 1950 says only at Swindon!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Spot on 100% my thoughts also. I think that's clear to see now we've heard all sides of it. If anyone thinks Paolo didn't do a great job look how the team played last night. As 1950 says only at Swindon! Mikey107

9:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

stfcphil says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ? stfcphil

9:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
We don't know it was in his contract that he had to okay all sales and we don't even know that he didn't know Ritchie was going to be sold - that's just his word against the club's.

After the Curbishley/West Ham thing, any club would be insane to have given a manager a total veto over the sale of players. There's always going to be the possibility that you need to sell players to keep going despite what the manager might think.
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]We don't know it was in his contract that he had to okay all sales and we don't even know that he didn't know Ritchie was going to be sold - that's just his word against the club's. After the Curbishley/West Ham thing, any club would be insane to have given a manager a total veto over the sale of players. There's always going to be the possibility that you need to sell players to keep going despite what the manager might think. Jeremy Hilary Boob

9:40pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

Oldhamred wrote:
Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit.

J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning.

A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment.

Patey for being a liar.

PDC for walking when he should have stood firm.

P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get.

As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell.

And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.
Have to agree with you on this. I think our views on all the 'protagonists' in this fiasco have dimmed somewhat over the last few weeks. It is becoming all very undignified.
[quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: Nobody comes out of this sorry saga with any credit. J Wray for not reigning him in at the very beginning. A Black for pulling the plug at the worst possible moment. Patey for being a liar. PDC for walking when he should have stood firm. P Spencer for screwing us for all he could get. As for Jed & Co, I'm scared they're not up to it...but only time will tell. And as usual the losers are The Fans once again.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with you on this. I think our views on all the 'protagonists' in this fiasco have dimmed somewhat over the last few weeks. It is becoming all very undignified. Pewsham Red

9:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans . jayden

9:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
I'm quite glad Ardiles went - we'd probably have gone down if he'd stayed and wouldn't have got Hoddle either. Even though he turned out to be a judas as well.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]I'm quite glad Ardiles went - we'd probably have gone down if he'd stayed and wouldn't have got Hoddle either. Even though he turned out to be a judas as well. Jeremy Hilary Boob

9:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rondogers says...

Rondogers wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.
What about Ooooh Shaun Taylor? think he is Lingy's assistant at Torquay? Maybe just until end of season? although he is probably busy at Torquay due to Lingy's health problems?
Sorry Nosyrudeman, I didn't mean to reply to your quote..lol should have been a new comment from me..not sure what happened there!!?
[quote][p][bold]Rondogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]What about Ooooh Shaun Taylor? think he is Lingy's assistant at Torquay? Maybe just until end of season? although he is probably busy at Torquay due to Lingy's health problems?[/p][/quote]Sorry Nosyrudeman, I didn't mean to reply to your quote..lol should have been a new comment from me..not sure what happened there!!? Rondogers

9:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Seriously I thought Paolo was amazing, I didn't sign Internationl's petition, but I wanted him back to finish the job as I think he's the best candidate to get us promoted.

However he's not coming back. We have no choice but to move on so let's move on.

Ps board please sign some players and please get the Thompson twins in from the start. We desperately need the energy and enthusiasm of youth.....
Seriously I thought Paolo was amazing, I didn't sign Internationl's petition, but I wanted him back to finish the job as I think he's the best candidate to get us promoted. However he's not coming back. We have no choice but to move on so let's move on. Ps board please sign some players and please get the Thompson twins in from the start. We desperately need the energy and enthusiasm of youth..... dreamofacleansheet2

9:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
And one could see into the future.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]And one could see into the future. jayden

9:44pm Wed 27 Feb 13

EastleazeRed says...

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti

ng
There fans think he's off to us .
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Reed's Parky dance![/bold] wrote: Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti ng[/p][/quote]There fans think he's off to us . EastleazeRed

9:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Since 1950 wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon!
Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.
You mean other than being kept out of the loop with the sale of Ritchie. Players being offered for sale at a 50% discount without him being told about it. I could go on but if you can't or wont see it there's little point really.
No, I can see honestly.

The points you have mentioned have been countered and explained as to saving the club.

Agreed, the manor of Blacks arrangements is questionable.

Both Black and Jed have stated that Spencer andPDC knew of the Ritchie negotiations were in place, which basically means its one word against the other.

So, as I said earlier, I do see, and I see clearly. Perhaps other should look a little harder.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Explain how he was managed out. es things changed and everyone agrees, butsurely a manager takes this into consideration as he is a leading fugure of the club.[/p][/quote]You mean other than being kept out of the loop with the sale of Ritchie. Players being offered for sale at a 50% discount without him being told about it. I could go on but if you can't or wont see it there's little point really.[/p][/quote]No, I can see honestly. The points you have mentioned have been countered and explained as to saving the club. Agreed, the manor of Blacks arrangements is questionable. Both Black and Jed have stated that Spencer andPDC knew of the Ritchie negotiations were in place, which basically means its one word against the other. So, as I said earlier, I do see, and I see clearly. Perhaps other should look a little harder. LydiardRED67

9:47pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
We don't know it was in his contract that he had to okay all sales and we don't even know that he didn't know Ritchie was going to be sold - that's just his word against the club's.

After the Curbishley/West Ham thing, any club would be insane to have given a manager a total veto over the sale of players. There's always going to be the possibility that you need to sell players to keep going despite what the manager might think.
All depends who's side your on as to who you want to believe. For the moment, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I will believe di Canio.

Second point is irrelevant as no-one is claiming there was a veto. It is the lack of reference to di Canio that is the issue, not the sale itself.
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]We don't know it was in his contract that he had to okay all sales and we don't even know that he didn't know Ritchie was going to be sold - that's just his word against the club's. After the Curbishley/West Ham thing, any club would be insane to have given a manager a total veto over the sale of players. There's always going to be the possibility that you need to sell players to keep going despite what the manager might think.[/p][/quote]All depends who's side your on as to who you want to believe. For the moment, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I will believe di Canio. Second point is irrelevant as no-one is claiming there was a veto. It is the lack of reference to di Canio that is the issue, not the sale itself. Pewsham Red

9:48pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Med Red wrote:
stfcphil wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,
Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.
since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore
He saw the writing on the wall and that the new board didn't want him - to gain promotion.

I don't blame Paolo, sad, but the end!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, there's another one. Di Canio, the club employee, had resigned from his contract. He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay. By the time that deadline came, his still future employer was not in a position to negotiate any further due to the terms of the NDA. He was also possibly slightly miffed at being held to ransom by one of his future staff. Strikes me that it was as much Di Canios responsibility, who was after all the employee who resigned and then set the ultimatum, to pick up the phone to Jed, IF he was so keen to stay,[/p][/quote]Oh dear another Paolo hater... "He set an unrealistic deadline for his possible future employer to come begging him to stay"... what cr@p!! The deadline was agreed by both parties. It was incumbent on McCrory to contact Di Canio if the take over had hit a snag not the other way round. Paolo wasn't involved in the take over, so was reliant on McCrory contacting him to inform him what was happening.[/p][/quote]since when has it been a case that the employer has to go running after the employee? PdC just got in a sulk because he suddenly realised he wasn't important anymore[/p][/quote]He saw the writing on the wall and that the new board didn't want him - to gain promotion. I don't blame Paolo, sad, but the end! sp1dersw3b

9:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

stfcphil wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?
What's that got to do with it? It is the fact it was done without his knowledge, according to PDC, that is the issue not the sale itself.
[quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?[/p][/quote]What's that got to do with it? It is the fact it was done without his knowledge, according to PDC, that is the issue not the sale itself. Pewsham Red

9:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

billbst says...

davel4848 wrote:
Lazaat wrote:
I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time!

Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.
Yes Lazaat, I think that sums up how the majority of us feel about this whole episode.
Simple explanation of what I feel. Is it better that it happened at this stage rather than the end of the season? My footballing heart says no but my mind says yes. Paolo's exit was never going to be well planned and the circumstance where the entire support team owed loyalty only to him meant we had this disaster to face. We also have a poorly integrated youth/first team sytem and our head of player recruitment was Paolo's agent. The old board allowed this situation. The squad system employed by Paolo worked very well but again when he is not there their confidence has drained away rapidly. I remember him saying many times that they would be nothing without him. After last night and the booing they will be believing it when it is rubbish. They have all the ability to stay in the promotion battle. If any incoming manager gets their heads up quickly and can bring in 2 or 3 good loanees - game on. Coventry were one of the only teams that I thought outplayed us so Saturday will be tough. Stick at it lads and play our passing game.
[quote][p][bold]davel4848[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lazaat[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry to see Paolo go, we shall never see the like of him again at Swindon! I'm not going to slag him off because of the great things he did in his short stay here, but I will say I think he has made a mistake leaving prematurely and not finishing what he started here...I think he has let himself down, let the players down and also let the fans down big time! Life is tough Paolo and things happen in life that we don't like or agree with, yes things happened that shouldn't of happened but you could of proved what a big man you are by getting on with it and finished what you started! Good luck Paolo, we won't ever forget you.[/p][/quote]Yes Lazaat, I think that sums up how the majority of us feel about this whole episode.[/p][/quote]Simple explanation of what I feel. Is it better that it happened at this stage rather than the end of the season? My footballing heart says no but my mind says yes. Paolo's exit was never going to be well planned and the circumstance where the entire support team owed loyalty only to him meant we had this disaster to face. We also have a poorly integrated youth/first team sytem and our head of player recruitment was Paolo's agent. The old board allowed this situation. The squad system employed by Paolo worked very well but again when he is not there their confidence has drained away rapidly. I remember him saying many times that they would be nothing without him. After last night and the booing they will be believing it when it is rubbish. They have all the ability to stay in the promotion battle. If any incoming manager gets their heads up quickly and can bring in 2 or 3 good loanees - game on. Coventry were one of the only teams that I thought outplayed us so Saturday will be tough. Stick at it lads and play our passing game. billbst

9:55pm Wed 27 Feb 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

I FEEL SO SORRY FOR pdc he was so hard done by and was never given a chance....

I think pdc will find it very hard to get a job with any club let alone a bigger club in this country..

How many players did he sign...
HOW MANY PLAYERS DID THE CLUB PAYOFF BECAUSE OF HIS LITTLE TANTRUMS...

Sorry Paolo but you sound like a spoilt little twatt
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR pdc he was so hard done by and was never given a chance.... I think pdc will find it very hard to get a job with any club let alone a bigger club in this country.. How many players did he sign... HOW MANY PLAYERS DID THE CLUB PAYOFF BECAUSE OF HIS LITTLE TANTRUMS... Sorry Paolo but you sound like a spoilt little twatt DarrenSTFCRomain

9:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13

bearwoodred says...

John Carew is a free agent today, can we not get him for a few months? Anyone who has got "My Life My Menstration" tatooed on their neck could terrify Div one defenses!
John Carew is a free agent today, can we not get him for a few months? Anyone who has got "My Life My Menstration" tatooed on their neck could terrify Div one defenses! bearwoodred

9:57pm Wed 27 Feb 13

sp1dersw3b says...

EastleazeRed wrote:
Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti


ng
There fans think he's off to us .
Interesting some fans (pro and anti PDC) suggest PT as a suitable candidate - wouldn't he be leaving a club in an excellent position leaving the Exeter supporters in the sh*te?

If not ok for Paolo to do this why is it ok for PT or any other employed manager to 'jump ship'?
[quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ollie Reed's Parky dance![/bold] wrote: Paul Tisdale not doing Exeter press conference tomorrow. Vic Morgan just tweeted....interesti ng[/p][/quote]There fans think he's off to us .[/p][/quote]Interesting some fans (pro and anti PDC) suggest PT as a suitable candidate - wouldn't he be leaving a club in an excellent position leaving the Exeter supporters in the sh*te? If not ok for Paolo to do this why is it ok for PT or any other employed manager to 'jump ship'? sp1dersw3b

10:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N
ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
...
Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
-----
I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride. ... I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had.... ... Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!? NO!! .... ...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet. .... The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May. ----- I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted. SAPFanSTFC

10:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced. Jeremy Hilary Boob

10:02pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe? LydiardRED67

10:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You? Pewsham Red

10:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Oldhamred says...

the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC. You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now. I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall. And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother. His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary. Oldhamred

10:08pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

stfcphil wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?
Also, he doesn't state the clause in the contract that was broken.

In fairness, none of us know what is in the contract, however we should not make reference to a point that we can't back up.

Has anyone else not noticed that PDC statement came out just as the meeting between our new board and the current management pair was ending?

Coincidence?
[quote][p][bold]stfcphil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Was he not an intelligent enough man to understand that without this happening, he would not have a club to manage, particularly as the eventuality had been discussed with him. Or was he going to make the "gesture" of paying the interim club running costs out of his own pocket ?[/p][/quote]Also, he doesn't state the clause in the contract that was broken. In fairness, none of us know what is in the contract, however we should not make reference to a point that we can't back up. Has anyone else not noticed that PDC statement came out just as the meeting between our new board and the current management pair was ending? Coincidence? LydiardRED67

10:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

Now pdc has gone which player will be first to have their say .A few beers for some of them tonight i would think.
Now pdc has gone which player will be first to have their say .A few beers for some of them tonight i would think. jayden

10:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joey butler says...

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Med Red,

How can you possibly say McCroy is ''an incompetent cowboy?''

The new owners have barely arrived and you are slagging them. Very intelligent on your behalf !!
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Med Red, How can you possibly say McCroy is ''an incompetent cowboy?'' The new owners have barely arrived and you are slagging them. Very intelligent on your behalf !! joey butler

10:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

old town robin says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
Very good reminder sandy, Don't forget Wise to add to the list.
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]Very good reminder sandy, Don't forget Wise to add to the list. old town robin

10:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

jayden says...

joey butler wrote:
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Med Red,

How can you possibly say McCroy is ''an incompetent cowboy?''

The new owners have barely arrived and you are slagging them. Very intelligent on your behalf !!
Well said give them a chance.What do people realy want after10 days .Maybe a manager tomorrow or not or maybe they can get williams scoring goals if they could get him to stop tripping over his own feet would be a start .
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Med Red, How can you possibly say McCroy is ''an incompetent cowboy?'' The new owners have barely arrived and you are slagging them. Very intelligent on your behalf !![/p][/quote]Well said give them a chance.What do people realy want after10 days .Maybe a manager tomorrow or not or maybe they can get williams scoring goals if they could get him to stop tripping over his own feet would be a start . jayden

10:21pm Wed 27 Feb 13

the wizard says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N

ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
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Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
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I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.
SAP, I'm half Italian, and sorry to say I had rafts of relations just like him in many, but not all ways .Some would argue with their shadow over the most meaningless things, others would say nothing but harbour a grudge for years and then spring it out into the open. Some were manic and others well let us say quiet by comparison, but never ever say a good or bad word about them, in case the ones you are with have issues.
Rows on that side of the family were many and often, and sometimes the women were bigger back stabbers than the men. You had to witness a row to believe it, Spielberg has never come close. I've seen manipulation of the highest order, kids cast out, brothers and sisters set against each other, all sorts.

A few weeks ago I said he had started talking about the club in the past tense, and then I said it was all over, nobody believed me, sorry but I have to say, I've seen it before, the trademarks were all there. Cut their nose off to spite their face, sadly all too often, and then beat themselves up over it privately. Never ask them about it, the line has been drawn, game over, you will not be thanked for siding with them once the cut has been done. Sorry mate, that is how it is. I only wish it were different, this is much bigger than what an Englishman would call pride., and something much more than honour is also at stake. The whole being of PDC is now under the microscope, his whole self, self belief, self esteem, self respect, his all, and he will be judged by his actions, and they may not be immediate. If somebody has crossed him, they will have sleepless nights to come.

If we could only turn back time .
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride. ... I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had.... ... Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!? NO!! .... ...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet. .... The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May. ----- I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.[/p][/quote]SAP, I'm half Italian, and sorry to say I had rafts of relations just like him in many, but not all ways .Some would argue with their shadow over the most meaningless things, others would say nothing but harbour a grudge for years and then spring it out into the open. Some were manic and others well let us say quiet by comparison, but never ever say a good or bad word about them, in case the ones you are with have issues. Rows on that side of the family were many and often, and sometimes the women were bigger back stabbers than the men. You had to witness a row to believe it, Spielberg has never come close. I've seen manipulation of the highest order, kids cast out, brothers and sisters set against each other, all sorts. A few weeks ago I said he had started talking about the club in the past tense, and then I said it was all over, nobody believed me, sorry but I have to say, I've seen it before, the trademarks were all there. Cut their nose off to spite their face, sadly all too often, and then beat themselves up over it privately. Never ask them about it, the line has been drawn, game over, you will not be thanked for siding with them once the cut has been done. Sorry mate, that is how it is. I only wish it were different, this is much bigger than what an Englishman would call pride., and something much more than honour is also at stake. The whole being of PDC is now under the microscope, his whole self, self belief, self esteem, self respect, his all, and he will be judged by his actions, and they may not be immediate. If somebody has crossed him, they will have sleepless nights to come. If we could only turn back time . the wizard

10:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you............. LydiardRED67

10:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

therock4u says...

Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
Med Red wrote:
So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.
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Got to dissagree with that. There was nothing wrong with PDC picking up his phone just to see what the situation was. Jed could have been at a meeting somewhere and unable to make contact.

Like has been said Fregie just carried on when Ronaldo was sold, only difference he knew.

Still can't get my head about the 5pm deadline for monday.

I'm sure some of you posters don't read the Adver football column. If you did you will have seen that Jed was prepared to bow to PDC's whims during the Friday meeting when the deadline was agreed. Not sure how that equates to Jed not wanting him.

As said it's all history now ,so we all move on.
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Whoever Jed appoints as manager it will not please everyone. That will bring out the keyboard moaners.

Learn from Portsmouth and support our team STFC, through the good, bad and ugly.
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy.[/p][/quote]Med Red wrote: So why the hell didn't McCrory pick up the phone and speak with Di Canio once he knew the take over wasn't going to be completed before the 5:00 deadline?? Either Mr. McCrory is an incompetent cowboy or he wanted Di Canio out and that's why no phonecall was made. Either way, with Di Canio gone and with nobody set to replace him our chance of promotion is in real jeopardy. -------------------- -------------------- ---- Got to dissagree with that. There was nothing wrong with PDC picking up his phone just to see what the situation was. Jed could have been at a meeting somewhere and unable to make contact. Like has been said Fregie just carried on when Ronaldo was sold, only difference he knew. Still can't get my head about the 5pm deadline for monday. I'm sure some of you posters don't read the Adver football column. If you did you will have seen that Jed was prepared to bow to PDC's whims during the Friday meeting when the deadline was agreed. Not sure how that equates to Jed not wanting him. As said it's all history now ,so we all move on. -------------------- -------------------- -- Whoever Jed appoints as manager it will not please everyone. That will bring out the keyboard moaners. Learn from Portsmouth and support our team STFC, through the good, bad and ugly. therock4u

10:29pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it. Wilesy

10:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.
Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts.

Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!!

Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30!
Ahhh Pewsham hi there mercifully I've still got all mine lol!

Re the music - JHB also makes some good points.

We're not far apart we both hope that he can pluck more than one string - but if not I'd just rather it be a footie chord instead of a musical one.

Maybe its me but he came across as part of a group that have bought the club for a hobby rather than someone deeply passionate about taking STFC to the next level. Early days I know but I'm not confident I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.[/p][/quote]Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts. Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!! Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30![/p][/quote]Ahhh Pewsham hi there mercifully I've still got all mine lol! Re the music - JHB also makes some good points. We're not far apart we both hope that he can pluck more than one string - but if not I'd just rather it be a footie chord instead of a musical one. Maybe its me but he came across as part of a group that have bought the club for a hobby rather than someone deeply passionate about taking STFC to the next level. Early days I know but I'm not confident I'm afraid. The Jockster

10:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

old town robin says...

bearwoodred wrote:
John Carew is a free agent today, can we not get him for a few months? Anyone who has got "My Life My Menstration" tatooed on their neck could terrify Div one defenses!
lrt go ny Inter because it would take too much hard work to get him fit, how would that fit in with us, althought he would be a good target man I guess
[quote][p][bold]bearwoodred[/bold] wrote: John Carew is a free agent today, can we not get him for a few months? Anyone who has got "My Life My Menstration" tatooed on their neck could terrify Div one defenses![/p][/quote]lrt go ny Inter because it would take too much hard work to get him fit, how would that fit in with us, althought he would be a good target man I guess old town robin

10:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joey butler says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another.

We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.
Dreamo,

Just want to check how you are getting on with building your statue of PDC outside the County Ground?

You have shoved it just so far down our throats for the best part of 18 months, but I think it will be a very small statue.

A garden gnome perhaps??
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another. We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.[/p][/quote]Dreamo, Just want to check how you are getting on with building your statue of PDC outside the County Ground? You have shoved it just so far down our throats for the best part of 18 months, but I think it will be a very small statue. A garden gnome perhaps?? joey butler

10:32pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

old town robin wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
Very good reminder sandy, Don't forget Wise to add to the list.
That reminds me of the joke that was doing the rounds when Wise left.

How does Ken Bates like his managers? Poached.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]Very good reminder sandy, Don't forget Wise to add to the list.[/p][/quote]That reminds me of the joke that was doing the rounds when Wise left. How does Ken Bates like his managers? Poached. Rebel_phish

10:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Red Al says...

Di Canio for Chelsea, think he would last as long as any other manager they have had.
Di Canio for Chelsea, think he would last as long as any other manager they have had. Red Al

10:34pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Yes I have.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Yes I have. Pewsham Red

10:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Red Al says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Yes I have.
Why don't you two just give it up?
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Yes I have.[/p][/quote]Why don't you two just give it up? Red Al

10:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision. Pewsham Red

10:39pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

Red Al wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Yes I have.
Why don't you two just give it up?
No.
[quote][p][bold]Red Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Yes I have.[/p][/quote]Why don't you two just give it up?[/p][/quote]No. Pewsham Red

10:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

The Jockster wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.
Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts.

Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!!

Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30!
Ahhh Pewsham hi there mercifully I've still got all mine lol!

Re the music - JHB also makes some good points.

We're not far apart we both hope that he can pluck more than one string - but if not I'd just rather it be a footie chord instead of a musical one.

Maybe its me but he came across as part of a group that have bought the club for a hobby rather than someone deeply passionate about taking STFC to the next level. Early days I know but I'm not confident I'm afraid.
Don't get me wrong Jock, I am not exactly enthused by what I have seen so far as you wonder what a small hotel owning ex-amateur musician would bring to the table, but happy to see how it develops.

Could all come crashing down again - who knows?
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.[/p][/quote]Evening Jock, I think Wilesy has a point. I am happy for there to be a reasonable division of labour and I would hope he brings more to the party than organising pop concerts. Still early days so don't want to be too keen to knock the new guys before they have had a chance to make an impression. I have to admit, though, that I am always suspicious of men of that age with long hair!! Probably cos I've been losing mine since I was 30![/p][/quote]Ahhh Pewsham hi there mercifully I've still got all mine lol! Re the music - JHB also makes some good points. We're not far apart we both hope that he can pluck more than one string - but if not I'd just rather it be a footie chord instead of a musical one. Maybe its me but he came across as part of a group that have bought the club for a hobby rather than someone deeply passionate about taking STFC to the next level. Early days I know but I'm not confident I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong Jock, I am not exactly enthused by what I have seen so far as you wonder what a small hotel owning ex-amateur musician would bring to the table, but happy to see how it develops. Could all come crashing down again - who knows? Pewsham Red

10:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Nice try but relying on press statements as being contractual obligations is, unfortunately not really satisfactory.

Try again and remember that as with us all, I am looking for reliable facts so if you don't have anything beyond your bias obsession don't respond.

For the record (again) I wanted PDC to return. I thought it needed that I am not anti.
Nice try but relying on press statements as being contractual obligations is, unfortunately not really satisfactory. Try again and remember that as with us all, I am looking for reliable facts so if you don't have anything beyond your bias obsession don't respond. For the record (again) I wanted PDC to return. I thought it needed that I am not anti. LydiardRED67

10:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Nice try but relying on press statements as being contractual obligations is, unfortunately not really satisfactory.

Try again and remember that as with us all, I am looking for reliable facts so if you don't have anything beyond your bias obsession don't respond.

For the record (again) I wanted PDC to return. I thought it needed that I am not anti.
I am not bothered what you feel is satisfactory, to be honest. Try again? Bit condescending, don't you think? This is a debating forum, not crown court.

You are just the other side of the same coin. Biased obsession? If the cap fits.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: Nice try but relying on press statements as being contractual obligations is, unfortunately not really satisfactory. Try again and remember that as with us all, I am looking for reliable facts so if you don't have anything beyond your bias obsession don't respond. For the record (again) I wanted PDC to return. I thought it needed that I am not anti.[/p][/quote]I am not bothered what you feel is satisfactory, to be honest. Try again? Bit condescending, don't you think? This is a debating forum, not crown court. You are just the other side of the same coin. Biased obsession? If the cap fits. Pewsham Red

10:53pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
A little bit harsh!

All left at the end of the season after achieving their goal, if memory serves (In McMahon's case the best thing he actually did was walk out!) but also Macari, Hoddle & Ardiles had offers from other clubs.

Spot the Odd one out!
[quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]A little bit harsh! All left at the end of the season after achieving their goal, if memory serves (In McMahon's case the best thing he actually did was walk out!) but also Macari, Hoddle & Ardiles had offers from other clubs. Spot the Odd one out! Davidsyrett

10:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

red white says...

Di kanny oh wrote:
red white wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.
I agree i am gutted and saddened.

We went top last week
exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions.

We would have done the same this season too.

What a waste.
red white told you yesterday that Di Canio will not be back and you said how do I know. Well I just did.
Ok so your guess was right.

Can't help if it i wanted Paolo back like 1000's of others.
[quote][p][bold]Di kanny oh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: Well, there we have it. I watched the interview myself and soon as I saw the news of it coming on, I feared it would be the end of the petition haha! Thank you to all those that signed it and to all those that bitched about it, don't hate me for it! :P I'm proud of myself in terms that I achieved over 250 signatures.. But the time has come where I accept Di Canio is not returning and listening to both sides of the story, I blame: Andrew Black for choosing and planning to sell the club in the middle of the season (what was the fool thinking?!) Sir William Patey for have no communication skills and having no care for the club The new board for not picking up the phone and attempting to persuade PDC to sit tight And finally, I blame Di Canio for not being understanding in the situation and instead becoming frustrated and making rash decisions. Overall, who is the winners? No-one and that is the saddest point of all. It's left a bitter taste in everyones mouths, whichever view point you hold. To sum it all up - Gutted.[/p][/quote]I agree i am gutted and saddened. We went top last week exactly the same time as last year when we beat Shrewsbury and stayed there to become champions. We would have done the same this season too. What a waste.[/p][/quote]red white told you yesterday that Di Canio will not be back and you said how do I know. Well I just did.[/p][/quote]Ok so your guess was right. Can't help if it i wanted Paolo back like 1000's of others. red white

10:58pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

joey butler wrote:
dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another.

We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.
Dreamo,

Just want to check how you are getting on with building your statue of PDC outside the County Ground?

You have shoved it just so far down our throats for the best part of 18 months, but I think it will be a very small statue.

A garden gnome perhaps??
Quality JB respect! I did mull over that Dreamo hadn't put his signature quote on lately lol
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the board make a decision quickly. If they make a wrong one they can always make another. We're in deep trouble and we need to sign players ASAP. I'd do it anyway but guess board want to let manager make decision.[/p][/quote]Dreamo, Just want to check how you are getting on with building your statue of PDC outside the County Ground? You have shoved it just so far down our throats for the best part of 18 months, but I think it will be a very small statue. A garden gnome perhaps??[/p][/quote]Quality JB respect! I did mull over that Dreamo hadn't put his signature quote on lately lol The Jockster

11:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Lazaat says...

Rondogers wrote:
I'm in two minds whether to wish him well for the future or to make a Di Canio Voodoo doll (with green jacket) and stick pins through it.

To be honest I think we all new it would end in tears, just a bit disappointed with his reasons (excuses) for leaving. I don't think he would have left like that if it was a bigger club.

Anyway i'm bored of it all now!
Had any cheese and pickle sandwiches lately Ron?
[quote][p][bold]Rondogers[/bold] wrote: I'm in two minds whether to wish him well for the future or to make a Di Canio Voodoo doll (with green jacket) and stick pins through it. To be honest I think we all new it would end in tears, just a bit disappointed with his reasons (excuses) for leaving. I don't think he would have left like that if it was a bigger club. Anyway i'm bored of it all now![/p][/quote]Had any cheese and pickle sandwiches lately Ron? Lazaat

11:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.
Bloody hell, this is getting tedious.

You claim contracts have been broken yet you can't tell me how.

You state the sale of Ritchie which is public knowledge.

You are unable to cite the clause in PDC contract which has been broken, instead regurgitating rhetoric already understood.

As nobody knows the contents of the contract, I can only go on the word of those I have engaged with. i haven't spoken to Black or PDC yet I have spoken to Mccrory. Albeit only once.

I choose to believe that if the current owner knew he was going to sell Ritchie, the new owner knew Ritchie was going to be sold and the current managers agent and friend knew he was going to be sold then it is a safe bet that the manager knew he was going to be sold.

Your go.......
[quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.[/p][/quote]Bloody hell, this is getting tedious. You claim contracts have been broken yet you can't tell me how. You state the sale of Ritchie which is public knowledge. You are unable to cite the clause in PDC contract which has been broken, instead regurgitating rhetoric already understood. As nobody knows the contents of the contract, I can only go on the word of those I have engaged with. i haven't spoken to Black or PDC yet I have spoken to Mccrory. Albeit only once. I choose to believe that if the current owner knew he was going to sell Ritchie, the new owner knew Ritchie was going to be sold and the current managers agent and friend knew he was going to be sold then it is a safe bet that the manager knew he was going to be sold. Your go....... LydiardRED67

11:07pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
B R E A K I N G N E W S

Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.
Wiz you rely didn't like him after all then buddy eh?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: B R E A K I N G N E W S Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.[/p][/quote]Wiz you rely didn't like him after all then buddy eh? The Jockster

11:14pm Wed 27 Feb 13

LydiardRED67 says...

The Jockster wrote:
the wizard wrote:
B R E A K I N G N E W S

Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.
Wiz you rely didn't like him after all then buddy eh?
Its weird Jock, but I really liked him and wanted him to stay, but some on here have been brainwashed by him and are siding with PDC beyond supporting the Town.

Like I say, weird.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: B R E A K I N G N E W S Italian ex football manager secures world record for being able to spit his dummy out the furthest from the pram.[/p][/quote]Wiz you rely didn't like him after all then buddy eh?[/p][/quote]Its weird Jock, but I really liked him and wanted him to stay, but some on here have been brainwashed by him and are siding with PDC beyond supporting the Town. Like I say, weird. LydiardRED67

11:17pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joey butler says...

Oldhamred wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.
Oldham,

It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out.

Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others.

Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence.

And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY??

To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!!

Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!!
[quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC. You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now. I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall. And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother. His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.[/p][/quote]Oldham, It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out. Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others. Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence. And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY?? To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!! Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!! joey butler

11:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N

ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
...
I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
...
Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
....
...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
....
The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
-----
I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.
Sap goodness knows we've had our ups and downs but I'm in total agreement here. Life at the CG is going to be incredibly dull post Pdc and as you say the new board have a mountain to climb.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride. ... I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had.... ... Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!? NO!! .... ...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet. .... The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May. ----- I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.[/p][/quote]Sap goodness knows we've had our ups and downs but I'm in total agreement here. Life at the CG is going to be incredibly dull post Pdc and as you say the new board have a mountain to climb. The Jockster

11:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Rebel_phish says...

Paolo still at 20/1 if any one fancies a ount
Paolo still at 20/1 if any one fancies a ount Rebel_phish

11:24pm Wed 27 Feb 13

southside7 says...

sad, bitter, little man.
sad, bitter, little man. southside7

11:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13

35 year fan says...

agent di canio - thank you your work is done. agent mcrory has the baton now. and he's off to a great start!
agent di canio - thank you your work is done. agent mcrory has the baton now. and he's off to a great start! 35 year fan

11:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.[/p][/quote]I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year. I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000. That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG? My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG. Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either. As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here. Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes. Jeremy Hilary Boob

11:33pm Wed 27 Feb 13

the wizard says...

joey butler wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.
Oldham,

It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out.

Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others.

Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence.

And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY??

To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!!

Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!!
Well Joey, you and your double, Jockster aka Malkym are certainly doing the late night rounds tonight, aren't you.

NO, I have repeatedly said the only issue with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture

NO, I didn't call Wilson Mr Foldy Arms, so you got that wrong again, I called him Waffler so get it right.

Yes, I did support Hart, but he didn't really get it right, but could anyone with those players, doubtful.

As for Glas Red, sort it with him, nothing to do with me, nothing at all.

No I didn't want PDC to go, but the wheels have been falling off since the embargo, only some are to blind to see it, and some still don't accept it, and some are so far far up their own ar5e holes they continue not to see what is occuring. So there you have it, you sarcasm goes before you and your wit as usual non existent.

So go and keyboard with your numerous other alter ego's, and don't forget your Kleenex, I'm off to watch some footie on TV.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC. You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now. I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall. And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother. His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.[/p][/quote]Oldham, It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out. Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others. Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence. And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY?? To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!! Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!![/p][/quote]Well Joey, you and your double, Jockster aka Malkym are certainly doing the late night rounds tonight, aren't you. NO, I have repeatedly said the only issue with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture NO, I didn't call Wilson Mr Foldy Arms, so you got that wrong again, I called him Waffler so get it right. Yes, I did support Hart, but he didn't really get it right, but could anyone with those players, doubtful. As for Glas Red, sort it with him, nothing to do with me, nothing at all. No I didn't want PDC to go, but the wheels have been falling off since the embargo, only some are to blind to see it, and some still don't accept it, and some are so far far up their own ar5e holes they continue not to see what is occuring. So there you have it, you sarcasm goes before you and your wit as usual non existent. So go and keyboard with your numerous other alter ego's, and don't forget your Kleenex, I'm off to watch some footie on TV. the wizard

11:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
A little bit harsh!

All left at the end of the season after achieving their goal, if memory serves (In McMahon's case the best thing he actually did was walk out!) but also Macari, Hoddle & Ardiles had offers from other clubs.

Spot the Odd one out!
Ardiles left in the Feb and I thought McMahon left pretty early on in the season. Both leaving was probably for the best as far as the Town were concerned though!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]A little bit harsh! All left at the end of the season after achieving their goal, if memory serves (In McMahon's case the best thing he actually did was walk out!) but also Macari, Hoddle & Ardiles had offers from other clubs. Spot the Odd one out![/p][/quote]Ardiles left in the Feb and I thought McMahon left pretty early on in the season. Both leaving was probably for the best as far as the Town were concerned though! Jeremy Hilary Boob

12:10am Thu 28 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.
JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.[/p][/quote]I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year. I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000. That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG? My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG. Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either. As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here. Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.[/p][/quote]JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile. I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall. Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences. Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up. Wilesy

12:13am Thu 28 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

the wizard wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Oldhamred wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC.

You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now.

I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall.

And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother.

His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.
Oldham,

It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out.

Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others.

Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence.

And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY??

To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!!

Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!!
Well Joey, you and your double, Jockster aka Malkym are certainly doing the late night rounds tonight, aren't you.

NO, I have repeatedly said the only issue with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture

NO, I didn't call Wilson Mr Foldy Arms, so you got that wrong again, I called him Waffler so get it right.

Yes, I did support Hart, but he didn't really get it right, but could anyone with those players, doubtful.

As for Glas Red, sort it with him, nothing to do with me, nothing at all.

No I didn't want PDC to go, but the wheels have been falling off since the embargo, only some are to blind to see it, and some still don't accept it, and some are so far far up their own ar5e holes they continue not to see what is occuring. So there you have it, you sarcasm goes before you and your wit as usual non existent.

So go and keyboard with your numerous other alter ego's, and don't forget your Kleenex, I'm off to watch some footie on TV.
Come on wiz now don't get all tetchy it's not just me or joey who've mentioned your apparent dislike for Pdc eg Oldham and you've had a go twice on this thread I think.

You are right about one thing joey is wrong about mr Foldy Arms that was me and indeed you've referred to waffler. So that alone really shoots your I am joey and he is jock and we are all together coo coo a choo! Cos if I were he I'd know we called dw that eh?

Still water under the bridge now eh!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Righto wiz, we get it, you didn't like PDC. You've wanted rid of him for weeks, well I guess you're happy now. I just hope whoever they get in lives up to your expectations, because you're the most important fan afterall. And to all those who will tell me to lay off wiz....don't bother. His postings on tatics, performance, history etc are a joy to read but the constant digs at Paolo in recent weeks have been unnecessary.[/p][/quote]Oldham, It has been very evident for some time now that Wizard did not like PDC and wanted him out. Wizard is very entitled to his opinions of course, but it reminds me of his attitude to Hart, Wilson and others. Hart, was supported extremely enthusiastically by Wizard for a few weeks, but he then turned and wanted him out with an absolute vengence. And Wizard still has a grudge against Danny Wilson, ''Mr Foldy Arms'' would be his most popular insult. And WHY?? To be fair to Wizard, he played a blinder in recent days and while slagging PDC off and wanting rid of him, he arranged for a very close relative otherwise known as 'Glasred' to rise from the posters grave, calling for PDC to be saved at all costs!! Nice move Wizard, hedging your bets would be an absolute under statement, but you did it extremely well and won your debate, which was of course impossible to lose!![/p][/quote]Well Joey, you and your double, Jockster aka Malkym are certainly doing the late night rounds tonight, aren't you. NO, I have repeatedly said the only issue with PDC was the name/shame/blame culture NO, I didn't call Wilson Mr Foldy Arms, so you got that wrong again, I called him Waffler so get it right. Yes, I did support Hart, but he didn't really get it right, but could anyone with those players, doubtful. As for Glas Red, sort it with him, nothing to do with me, nothing at all. No I didn't want PDC to go, but the wheels have been falling off since the embargo, only some are to blind to see it, and some still don't accept it, and some are so far far up their own ar5e holes they continue not to see what is occuring. So there you have it, you sarcasm goes before you and your wit as usual non existent. So go and keyboard with your numerous other alter ego's, and don't forget your Kleenex, I'm off to watch some footie on TV.[/p][/quote]Come on wiz now don't get all tetchy it's not just me or joey who've mentioned your apparent dislike for Pdc eg Oldham and you've had a go twice on this thread I think. You are right about one thing joey is wrong about mr Foldy Arms that was me and indeed you've referred to waffler. So that alone really shoots your I am joey and he is jock and we are all together coo coo a choo! Cos if I were he I'd know we called dw that eh? Still water under the bridge now eh! The Jockster

12:24am Thu 28 Feb 13

Wilesy says...

The Jockster wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.
Jock I guess the cost benefit will determine if its worthwhile, I would think £100k a gig profit is feasible after the cut and takings. Boards could cover the pitch and if it was done before the pitch gets relaid it wouldn't matter anyway. By the sounds of it the new guys all have their roles mapped out, with I think Jed the main football man. Time will tell of course.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]Wilesy I've always got lot of time for your posts but IMO our new board member Callum needs to be a lot more football orientated than just being able to put on a couple of pop concerts in the close season to raise a couple of grand, which is all it will be by the time expenses and the cost of getting the pitch back in shape.[/p][/quote]Jock I guess the cost benefit will determine if its worthwhile, I would think £100k a gig profit is feasible after the cut and takings. Boards could cover the pitch and if it was done before the pitch gets relaid it wouldn't matter anyway. By the sounds of it the new guys all have their roles mapped out, with I think Jed the main football man. Time will tell of course. Wilesy

1:58am Thu 28 Feb 13

albatross says...

Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
The most perceptive post on here so far.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]The most perceptive post on here so far. albatross

2:02am Thu 28 Feb 13

albatross says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure.
A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history.
Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion!
Only at Swindon!
Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team.

Hate agreeing with you on the last point.
They only had to keep him until the end of the season. Surely they could have found the money to do that. If money is that tight we really do have problems.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: He was managed out. Simple as that. They knew what buttons to press for sure. A sad sad end to an incredible period in the clubs history. Goodbye Paolo. Goodbye promotion! Only at Swindon![/p][/quote]Spot on. Not wanted probably being realistic that the New Board could not afford him and the team. Hate agreeing with you on the last point.[/p][/quote]They only had to keep him until the end of the season. Surely they could have found the money to do that. If money is that tight we really do have problems. albatross

5:44am Thu 28 Feb 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Joey B/Jockster on a point of order the statue was to be built on him getting us to the Premiership. Sadly no chance now.

Small and perhaps buried nder ground for his statue..... Just like Grim suggested - I'll be making a terracotta Amy.....

Can we sign some players please....
Joey B/Jockster on a point of order the statue was to be built on him getting us to the Premiership. Sadly no chance now. Small and perhaps buried nder ground for his statue..... Just like Grim suggested - I'll be making a terracotta Amy..... Can we sign some players please.... dreamofacleansheet2

6:20am Thu 28 Feb 13

stfc2012 says...

I'll go on record and say the 6 gigs a year at the county ground won't work. The pitch needs to be properly cared for and not trampled on so to put on 6 in the summer break a bit much. There is a reason why big clubs only do a few and if it was that easy every club would do it including our old board. Also, Swindon would only get the 'has been' middle of the road acts that would appeal to the masses and that's about it. That's what you need to fill a small stadium in a town with little culture, no university or any meaningful scene. It's nice the board have ideas but its all been thought through and dismissed before and if they think it will be a success they are out of touch and way way off. Fans remember the first things managers and boards say such as the 'the 5 year plan' etc. Next year people will be on this board asking where their 6 concerts are... The board will be saying they were not viable... They may get a couple on but I'll eat my keyboard if they turn 'SN1' into a successful large scale music venue.
I'll go on record and say the 6 gigs a year at the county ground won't work. The pitch needs to be properly cared for and not trampled on so to put on 6 in the summer break a bit much. There is a reason why big clubs only do a few and if it was that easy every club would do it including our old board. Also, Swindon would only get the 'has been' middle of the road acts that would appeal to the masses and that's about it. That's what you need to fill a small stadium in a town with little culture, no university or any meaningful scene. It's nice the board have ideas but its all been thought through and dismissed before and if they think it will be a success they are out of touch and way way off. Fans remember the first things managers and boards say such as the 'the 5 year plan' etc. Next year people will be on this board asking where their 6 concerts are... The board will be saying they were not viable... They may get a couple on but I'll eat my keyboard if they turn 'SN1' into a successful large scale music venue. stfc2012

7:47am Thu 28 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

stfc2012 wrote:
I'll go on record and say the 6 gigs a year at the county ground won't work. The pitch needs to be properly cared for and not trampled on so to put on 6 in the summer break a bit much. There is a reason why big clubs only do a few and if it was that easy every club would do it including our old board. Also, Swindon would only get the 'has been' middle of the road acts that would appeal to the masses and that's about it. That's what you need to fill a small stadium in a town with little culture, no university or any meaningful scene. It's nice the board have ideas but its all been thought through and dismissed before and if they think it will be a success they are out of touch and way way off. Fans remember the first things managers and boards say such as the 'the 5 year plan' etc. Next year people will be on this board asking where their 6 concerts are... The board will be saying they were not viable... They may get a couple on but I'll eat my keyboard if they turn 'SN1' into a successful large scale music venue.
Totally with you.

If there was market for six gigs a year and it wouldn't damage the pitch then other clubs would be doing it already. The most you get is a handful with one or two gigs (often the same acts on consecutive days).

You're right about MOR has beens are probably the only way to fill the CG for a gig. Swindon is apathetic (look at the support for STFC), has nothing going on, no uni, no culture, etc. There's not enough interest in Swindon for six gigs and we'd never get big enough names to get hordes travelling in - people would drive a long way to see Springsteen or Muse but not who we'd end up with.

Spot on about the initial impressions. So far - not very good. He'd have been better saying he hoped to stay one, maybe two, a year - six makes him look like someone a bit out of his depth (and who doesn't appreciate that they'd need to overcome the general apathy around the town).

Maybe they could look at other events than pop concerts - Gillingham staged a London Broncos match last year, so maybe that's something they could think about?
[quote][p][bold]stfc2012[/bold] wrote: I'll go on record and say the 6 gigs a year at the county ground won't work. The pitch needs to be properly cared for and not trampled on so to put on 6 in the summer break a bit much. There is a reason why big clubs only do a few and if it was that easy every club would do it including our old board. Also, Swindon would only get the 'has been' middle of the road acts that would appeal to the masses and that's about it. That's what you need to fill a small stadium in a town with little culture, no university or any meaningful scene. It's nice the board have ideas but its all been thought through and dismissed before and if they think it will be a success they are out of touch and way way off. Fans remember the first things managers and boards say such as the 'the 5 year plan' etc. Next year people will be on this board asking where their 6 concerts are... The board will be saying they were not viable... They may get a couple on but I'll eat my keyboard if they turn 'SN1' into a successful large scale music venue.[/p][/quote]Totally with you. If there was market for six gigs a year and it wouldn't damage the pitch then other clubs would be doing it already. The most you get is a handful with one or two gigs (often the same acts on consecutive days). You're right about MOR has beens are probably the only way to fill the CG for a gig. Swindon is apathetic (look at the support for STFC), has nothing going on, no uni, no culture, etc. There's not enough interest in Swindon for six gigs and we'd never get big enough names to get hordes travelling in - people would drive a long way to see Springsteen or Muse but not who we'd end up with. Spot on about the initial impressions. So far - not very good. He'd have been better saying he hoped to stay one, maybe two, a year - six makes him look like someone a bit out of his depth (and who doesn't appreciate that they'd need to overcome the general apathy around the town). Maybe they could look at other events than pop concerts - Gillingham staged a London Broncos match last year, so maybe that's something they could think about? Jeremy Hilary Boob

8:01am Thu 28 Feb 13

Pewsham Red says...

LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
LydiardRED67 wrote:
Pewsham Red wrote:
Graham8181 wrote:
cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.
That should be 'broken contract'.
What clauses were broken?
Selling Ritchie without his agreement.
Who's word do you believe?
Di Canio's. You?
At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself.

You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............
Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.
Bloody hell, this is getting tedious.

You claim contracts have been broken yet you can't tell me how.

You state the sale of Ritchie which is public knowledge.

You are unable to cite the clause in PDC contract which has been broken, instead regurgitating rhetoric already understood.

As nobody knows the contents of the contract, I can only go on the word of those I have engaged with. i haven't spoken to Black or PDC yet I have spoken to Mccrory. Albeit only once.

I choose to believe that if the current owner knew he was going to sell Ritchie, the new owner knew Ritchie was going to be sold and the current managers agent and friend knew he was going to be sold then it is a safe bet that the manager knew he was going to be sold.

Your go.......
Don't be a clown. YOU are getting tedious. I'll see if I can get a copy of the contract!!

Neither of us has 'evidence' and not sure why you need to get all Hettie Wainthrop about it. You can choose who you believe as will I.

And you can climb down off your high horse too, you condescending little man.
[quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LydiardRED67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pewsham Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: cool done laters mr no commitment thanks for seeing out your contract.[/p][/quote]That should be 'broken contract'.[/p][/quote]What clauses were broken?[/p][/quote]Selling Ritchie without his agreement.[/p][/quote]Who's word do you believe?[/p][/quote]Di Canio's. You?[/p][/quote]At the moment, Jed's as I heard it from the man himself. You still haven't enlightened me with the details of the breach of contract have you.............[/p][/quote]Not sure what Jed has to do with it as he wasn't even involved in the Ritchie sale - Black said that was his decision.[/p][/quote]Bloody hell, this is getting tedious. You claim contracts have been broken yet you can't tell me how. You state the sale of Ritchie which is public knowledge. You are unable to cite the clause in PDC contract which has been broken, instead regurgitating rhetoric already understood. As nobody knows the contents of the contract, I can only go on the word of those I have engaged with. i haven't spoken to Black or PDC yet I have spoken to Mccrory. Albeit only once. I choose to believe that if the current owner knew he was going to sell Ritchie, the new owner knew Ritchie was going to be sold and the current managers agent and friend knew he was going to be sold then it is a safe bet that the manager knew he was going to be sold. Your go.......[/p][/quote]Don't be a clown. YOU are getting tedious. I'll see if I can get a copy of the contract!! Neither of us has 'evidence' and not sure why you need to get all Hettie Wainthrop about it. You can choose who you believe as will I. And you can climb down off your high horse too, you condescending little man. Pewsham Red

8:17am Thu 28 Feb 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

The Jockster wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
the wizard wrote:
nosyrudeman wrote:
Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed.

Macari - Walked out
Hoddle - Walked out
McMahon - Walked out
Ardiles - Walked out
Di Canio - Walked out.
You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona.

None of the others had a built in self destruct button.
Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N


ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride.
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I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had....
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Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!?
NO!!
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...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet.
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The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May.
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I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.
Sap goodness knows we've had our ups and downs but I'm in total agreement here. Life at the CG is going to be incredibly dull post Pdc and as you say the new board have a mountain to climb.
Blimey Scary!!
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I agreed wholeheartedly with you a day or so ago and now this reciprocal comment!?....this HAS to stop Jock!!
:-)
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Cheers Wiz - good response and I do understand about the 'beat themselves up privately' bit....all has gone very flat.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosyrudeman[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget all the young untried managers we have employed. Macari - Walked out Hoddle - Walked out McMahon - Walked out Ardiles - Walked out Di Canio - Walked out.[/p][/quote]You can say that, but it was only the last one that was a self obsessive pre ma dona. None of the others had a built in self destruct button.[/p][/quote]Got to disagree on a point of technical detail here Wiz......He is a fiery Italian - we knew that when we employed him we knew that he would have baggage in so far as a personality went, he was a 'young' opinionated manager excited by the opportunity........N ot self destruct just youthful exuberance yet in a man old enough to have a stubborn pride. ... I for one despite hating his timing and action will NEVER bad mouth one of the most dedicated, committed and exciting managers that we've ever had.... ... Was he 100% everyone's cup of tea!? NO!! .... ...but you can't fault the man AND HIS TEAM'S...dedication to task nor can you deny that the STFC fold will be missing a huge component for some time yet. .... The new board have a HUGE challenge facing them and none of us can tell them the answers as we don't have the money....but we do need a strong character to kick some backsides until May. ----- I'm missing the PDC era already and I think the players are too - it is now down to them to find enough pride in themselves in order to see out the season the way PDC would have wanted.[/p][/quote]Sap goodness knows we've had our ups and downs but I'm in total agreement here. Life at the CG is going to be incredibly dull post Pdc and as you say the new board have a mountain to climb.[/p][/quote]Blimey Scary!! .. I agreed wholeheartedly with you a day or so ago and now this reciprocal comment!?....this HAS to stop Jock!! :-) --- Cheers Wiz - good response and I do understand about the 'beat themselves up privately' bit....all has gone very flat. SAPFanSTFC

8:44am Thu 28 Feb 13

chrystovski says...

It looks like my "Don't come back Di Canio" petition worked, it has only been live a couple of hours....but 6 Million signatures later we finally got confirmation that Di Canio would not be coming back....
It looks like my "Don't come back Di Canio" petition worked, it has only been live a couple of hours....but 6 Million signatures later we finally got confirmation that Di Canio would not be coming back.... chrystovski

8:56am Thu 28 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Joey B/Jockster on a point of order the statue was to be built on him getting us to the Premiership. Sadly no chance now.

Small and perhaps buried nder ground for his statue..... Just like Grim suggested - I'll be making a terracotta Amy.....

Can we sign some players please....
Ok dreamo let you off lol!
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Joey B/Jockster on a point of order the statue was to be built on him getting us to the Premiership. Sadly no chance now. Small and perhaps buried nder ground for his statue..... Just like Grim suggested - I'll be making a terracotta Amy..... Can we sign some players please....[/p][/quote]Ok dreamo let you off lol! The Jockster

10:22am Thu 28 Feb 13

Highworth red says...

Headline should read "Swindon state Di Canio chapter is finished", deluded to the very end.
Headline should read "Swindon state Di Canio chapter is finished", deluded to the very end. Highworth red

10:50am Thu 28 Feb 13

buckobassettboy says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
tj@ramsbury wrote:
Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.
Because they are fickle.

Like you fantastic following STFC home and away in this era.

Hard act to follow but I will give my support however I don't think for a minute I am going to enjoy as much.
37 years following Town and this feels all rather depressing.
Agreed.Half the posters on here must be the Wembley day trippers club and the 'Only sing when we're winning' fraternity.Short memories-so short they need a Sat Nav to find the County Ground.Total tossers.
If he had still been here then this shower of haters passing interest in the Town would have been non existent-like the Rodbourne lot who prefer to go to Stamford Bridge.You know who you are.I would have him back tomorrow-his motivation and passion got us where we are-now he has gone we get mediocrity-Bury!!! for gods sake.PDC must be watching on at all the good being undone and never mind the me,me,me-he will be sick to the core.That's the man he is.
50 yrs a town fan and the last 2 years was some of the best.A legend.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tj@ramsbury[/bold] wrote: Why don't all of you Paolo haters leave him alone, he was a fantastic manager, he got us promotion in 1 YEAR of him taking over and has lead us to where we are now. you all should be ashamed of yourselves for such negative comments towards a true legend. you all sung his name when he was there pity you all can't find that voice now too voice postive comments towards him, i for one will never ever forget his passion, honesty and hard work that he did for Swindon Town. p,s lets hope the "new" manager helps shovel snow off the pitch so a match can still take place ????? Thanks Paolo you are a true legend that will live on.[/p][/quote]Because they are fickle. Like you fantastic following STFC home and away in this era. Hard act to follow but I will give my support however I don't think for a minute I am going to enjoy as much. 37 years following Town and this feels all rather depressing.[/p][/quote]Agreed.Half the posters on here must be the Wembley day trippers club and the 'Only sing when we're winning' fraternity.Short memories-so short they need a Sat Nav to find the County Ground.Total tossers. If he had still been here then this shower of haters passing interest in the Town would have been non existent-like the Rodbourne lot who prefer to go to Stamford Bridge.You know who you are.I would have him back tomorrow-his motivation and passion got us where we are-now he has gone we get mediocrity-Bury!!! for gods sake.PDC must be watching on at all the good being undone and never mind the me,me,me-he will be sick to the core.That's the man he is. 50 yrs a town fan and the last 2 years was some of the best.A legend. buckobassettboy

10:51am Thu 28 Feb 13

Park North Red says...

Too much time wasted I think. Should have been sorted last week. Onwards and upwards
Too much time wasted I think. Should have been sorted last week. Onwards and upwards Park North Red

1:15pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Davidsyrett says...

Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.
JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.
I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.[/p][/quote]I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year. I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000. That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG? My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG. Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either. As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here. Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.[/p][/quote]JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile. I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall. Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences. Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.[/p][/quote]I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into. Davidsyrett

1:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13

The Jockster says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.
JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.
I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.
Zzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.[/p][/quote]I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year. I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000. That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG? My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG. Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either. As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here. Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.[/p][/quote]JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile. I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall. Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences. Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.[/p][/quote]I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzz The Jockster

6:08pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

35 year fan wrote:
agent di canio - thank you your work is done. agent mcrory has the baton now. and he's off to a great start!
Pox 3.5 year old fan - it ain't working, no ones bothered about you from up A420 ,
best button it, before you make a bigger wally of yourself.
[quote][p][bold]35 year fan[/bold] wrote: agent di canio - thank you your work is done. agent mcrory has the baton now. and he's off to a great start![/p][/quote]Pox 3.5 year old fan - it ain't working, no ones bothered about you from up A420 , best button it, before you make a bigger wally of yourself. Chish and Fips

6:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
jayden wrote:
Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
Wilesy wrote:
Jets there'd wrote:
Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did.

He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion.

I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are.

Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way.

Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.
Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream.

Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.
I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon.

Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.
Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .
I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names.

If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second.

What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard.

I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.
Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start.

Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off.

The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark.

There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands.

Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink.

Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw.

So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc.

We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.
I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year.

I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000.

That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG?

My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG.

Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either.

As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here.

Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.
JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile.

I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall.

Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences.

Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.
I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.
Yeah tbh I didn't think the AC/DC suggestion was ever serious. Although I am waiting for the Adver to knock up a Photoshop of possible headliner Beyonce performing in front of the South Stand. Then we'll get Jedward and the Cheeky Girls...

I'd be worried that there are just too many festivals these days for STFC to add another one. Walsall had the Wonder Stuff and (I think) a load of other indie bands but that was 15+ years ago when there were fewer festivals around.

The thing about the R1 gigs was that it guarantees tons of free publicity because it's all over BBC TV and radio.

Also access to the CG is pretty poor for people outside of Swindon (which is probably why an MOR has been aimed at people here is a better bet). There's not much car parking (especially if you've got equipment trucks and/or tour buses there as well) and the town centre is gridlocked at the best of times. What's he thinking - reopen the park & ride and bus people in?

I'll applaud their desire to get more non-football revenue because that's the way things are going. I'm just not convinced that he's really thought this one through.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jets there'd[/bold] wrote: Very sad, Paolo won't find another club that will throw money at him as Swindon did. He hasn't done himself any favours with regards getting another job in my opinion. I feel sorry for his back room staff who have followed him like a load of lemmings. Paolo might be financially sound but I cannot believe they all are. Lets get a new manager with passion, commitment AND honour, one that won't head for the exit when things don't go his way. Lets hope too that the new Board are more interested in the football rather than the chap on the radio last night waxing lyrical about having concerts at the ground.[/p][/quote]Surely it's a good thing having people on the board who specialise in their roles. Callum Rice sounds like an ideal guy to organise concerts. More so than anyone from the previous regime, which is why there weren't any and we missed out on that revenue stream. Any chairman watching the Paolo video will realise from the pictures of himself in the background that it is all about him so will be very wary of taking him on.[/p][/quote]I've got no idea whether or not Rice is the ideal person to organise concerts but coming out and claiming we'll be staying six concerts a year at the CG does not suggest someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I doubt there is any football stadium in the UK which hosts that many concerts a year, and if they do they're in much bigger cities than Swindon. Let's face it - Bryan Adams and Elton John were targeted mainly at people in and around Swindon because they weren't the sort of names that would have many people travelling a long distance to see. And that's always going to be the case because the CG isn't a big enough venue to draw in the sort of big names that would have people travelling long distances to see - and if you're staging six concerts here you need to get those big names that will really pull people in.[/p][/quote]Right lets not bother with that then.Stupid board and there plans .[/p][/quote]I didn't say don't bother. I said be realistic - one gig a year that's aimed mainly at people in Swindon because you're never going to get any really big names. If no other ground holds six concerts a year doesn't it make you wonder why? Having a director who's supposedly got a background in music and entertainment can't be unique to Swindon and if a PL team thought they could run 6 gigs a year they'd just contract it out to LiveNation or some other promoter anyway. The fact that they don't suggests he's either some sort of visionary genius, a massive optimistic or doesn't know what he's on about. I'd hope it's the first but I'd take the second. What sort of acts do you genuinely think we could get? For stadium bands the CG is too small and arena bands would probably be better off sticking to arenas because they're set up for gigs already? Added to that the CG is a bit of a dump - you'd be better off staging a gig at Lydiard. I'm all for adding non-football revenue streams and I'd love to be proved wrong on this but I'm not remotely convinced.[/p][/quote]Actually to say Rice is ideal is hasty but he was asked on interview to introduce himself, what his experience was and what he would bring to the table. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and sounds well connected, so a good start. Whether 6 concerts a year is feasible well we will see, but its worth a try, will be worth ££££££ if it comes off. The Oasis regularly sells out concerts I think around the 3000 ticket mark. There is talk of expanding the Oasis into a decent size arena, one of the biggest in the area. (The nearest big venues are in Birmingham, Cardiff and London), so location wise Swindon has been stated as a good choice and would attract people from quite a fairly wide catchment area, given the right bands. Say you had the stage at Stratton Bank end, you could have 7,500 seated, and say 2,500 on the pitch? At £30-£50 a ticket depending on the act, you could be talking £300-£500k a gig, plus a cut of food and drink. Other football clubs are getting into this. Ricoh Arena is hosting Bruce Springsteen and Muse. Emirates has entered the world of gigs this year, they have announced Muse doing 2 dates and Green Day. Maybe those acts are a bit bigger than the County Ground, but Elton John was a decent draw. So if we can easily get 3000 for Oasis gigs I'm sure the County Groud can attract 3000 to 10000, say Ed Sheeran, Example, Chase and Status etc. We shall see. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box as I see it.[/p][/quote]I might be being a bit harsh on the day and yeah, he was only asked to introduce himself. If anything, the Adver probably over hyped it - and possibly him: we need to know more about it than just "background in music and events." That could be a bloke who ran the SU bar at uni!! That said, he'd probably have been better off saying he was hoping to stage 1 or 2 a year. I take your point re other stadiums but they're in bigger towns (Cov is also much more central) and are much bigger than the CG - the Ricoh holds 35-40000 for gigs and I'd imagine the Emirates is at least 60000. That means you can get bigger names and even after paying for everything there's still a nice profit. Out of your £300-500k there's the band and promoters' take and all the other costs, so I'm not even sure how much the club would make out of it anyway - would we be on a cut or just hiring out the CG? My scepticism about who we'd get comes down to the CG being nowhere on the radar for stadium acts - their shows would be too big and too expensive. Someone in the thread on the Adver's story about the concerts said ACDC - their last UK dates included Wembley and Hampden, so the CG isn't going to happen. And for smaller acts there are probably enough arenas to go round without risking an outdoor gig in an untried venue. If you can play the O2, NEC or Cardiff Arena, you'd need a lot of convincing to play the CG. Tbh someone like EJ who would sell on the "that'll be a nice evening out" basis that the sort of gig you'd be really looking forward to for months (eg Muse or Springsteen) would probably be the best bet. I don't think you'd get 6 of them in a summer and I don't think you'd get enough people turning up to that number either. As for Swindon being a great location for a massive new arena - I think that's the usual SBC waffle that the Adver buys into. It's all well & good saying X million people live within 90 minutes of Swindon but all those also live within 90 mins of Cardiff, Brum and London, which already have arenas - no acts are going to skip the O2 to play at a New Oasis. Plus the one in Bristol looks increasingly likely as well as the mayor is really pushing it - if that happens, there's no catchment area at all for one here. Thinking outside the box is great but perhaps they should start a big smaller - one gig next year and see how that goes.[/p][/quote]JHB I take your point of view, and you're right on the calcuations, how much of a cut gets left I have no idea, but I do think the location is good and the cut would be worthwhile. I would think the Oasis Sports Hall is hardly first choice for the bands I listed but still they come here and sell it out, and it is now a well established venue, despite the proximity to the towns around, and the equivalent size rival venues eg the refurbished Bristol Colston Hall. Six might well be pushing it, and the fantastic AC/DC would never play the County Ground for sure, way too big for that, but I'm sure you if he could get a Will Young / Ed Sheeran / Biffy Clyro / Jools Holland / Morrissey etc etc with a couple of decent supports and get plenty to attend. Westonbirt Arboretum and the Eden Project are other venues that spring to mind, they have around 4 to 6 a year I think, well attended I believe. A mix of artists would be needed to attract different audiences. Anyway good luck to Rice, hopefuly like you say he will be a visionary genius! I think if he can get the acts and price it right the punters will turn up.[/p][/quote]I was the one that mentioned AC/DC, but it was tongue in cheek, having seen them many times including Wembley a few years ago, i'm well aware that the CG wouldn't work for them anymore than Iron Maiden that was mentioned afterwards, but he point is it could be made to work. It's not always necessary just to have one gig band, a smaller festival like we had at Lydiard Park (radio 1 thing) had 20,000 each day for the weekend, it could work and is one of the ideas that certainly would be worth looking into.[/p][/quote]Yeah tbh I didn't think the AC/DC suggestion was ever serious. Although I am waiting for the Adver to knock up a Photoshop of possible headliner Beyonce performing in front of the South Stand. Then we'll get Jedward and the Cheeky Girls... I'd be worried that there are just too many festivals these days for STFC to add another one. Walsall had the Wonder Stuff and (I think) a load of other indie bands but that was 15+ years ago when there were fewer festivals around. The thing about the R1 gigs was that it guarantees tons of free publicity because it's all over BBC TV and radio. Also access to the CG is pretty poor for people outside of Swindon (which is probably why an MOR has been aimed at people here is a better bet). There's not much car parking (especially if you've got equipment trucks and/or tour buses there as well) and the town centre is gridlocked at the best of times. What's he thinking - reopen the park & ride and bus people in? I'll applaud their desire to get more non-football revenue because that's the way things are going. I'm just not convinced that he's really thought this one through. Jeremy Hilary Boob

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