Di Canio upset by Town statement (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

jayden wrote:
me me me its all about me .

Chish and Fips wrote:
Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

jayden wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:
Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

No time its me time.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
I thought it read really badly as a statement and whilst I'm not happy at PDC and his staff resigning I'm still very grateful for all they've done for the club
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......unlike Patey!!...a miserable poor excuse for a dimplomat - despite his so called love of football he showed no consideration for the fans - regardless of any issues between Black and PDC he should have shown a bit more gumption and behaved in a manner more becoming of his status.
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PDC if you do come back then you do need to realise that many a fan has been hurt by your departure...you SHOULD have waited until the sale was resolved.

Super Mario TV wrote:
The new owners made no contact with him before or after the five o'clock deadline, because they wanted him out.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

Scott Thunes wrote:
Sounds like sour grapes to me. The fans idolised Di Canio, and I'm sorry he has left. But clearly he has a highly inflated opinion of himself, and expected the new owners to grovel at his feet. He did a brilliant job here, but really needs to get over himself.

Always be a legend here, thanks for the memories.

fatman wrote:
Patey will be remembered as a hasole brought in to destroy what has been achieved by a talented bunch of Itailians
this is one mission he failed . He might have found someone to buy the club ,but I think they were there before Patey arrived .Someone said on another forum
send the taxi in for Patey got a better suggestion , let the Bstard walk , bet he wont show his face on Saturday if he does let him have the full force of most peoples anger , Jeremy Wray what you doing these days , bring Andrew Fitton with you , we now know
who the real back stabbers were

fatman wrote:
Patey will be remembered as a hasole brought in to destroy what has been achieved by a talented bunch of Itailians
this is one mission he failed . He might have found someone to buy the club ,but I think they were there before Patey arrived .Someone said on another forum
send the taxi in for Patey got a better suggestion , let the Bstard walk , bet he wont show his face on Saturday if he does let him have the full force of most peoples anger , Jeremy Wray what you doing these days , bring Andrew Fitton with you , we now know
who the real back stabbers were

Oldhamred wrote:
For me the most important part of this statement is that PDC claims Jed was aware of the 5pm deadline, yet never made contact with a view to extending.

A mistake?
Maybe, but I suspect not.

Good Luck Paolo....You did us proud.

Oi Den! wrote:
Maybe at 17:00 on Monday the old and new owners were busy trying to make sure we still had a club to support. How difficult would it have been for the two parties to sign a new agreement after that time? PDC says the club did not contact him. There were two parties to the agreement. Did he contact the club to try to extend it? It smacks of an act of brinkmanship by PDC. And why did he resign in the first place if he was so keen to stay?
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Don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to feel relieved that we've got the STFC show back on the road.
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If PDC wants to get everyone on his side, he should spill all the beans - now.

stfc2012 wrote:

jayden wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:
Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

No time its me time.

He's done it 100 times before.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

The Jockster wrote:
Wiz - fair points made but as I SAP and RobinsT reckon there was no need for the underhand Patey sideswipe and if the Di Canio version of the dead sea scrolls do come into the public domain they will be an interesting read methinks

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

Chish and Fips wrote:
Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

southside7 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:

jayden wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote:
Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

No time its me time.

He's done it 100 times before.

Exactly, and people forget that. We are not special to him, nor were Celtic, AC etc, etc. Leagua 1, Leagua 1. Looked down his nose at us too often. Go away Paolo, spoilt child, along wth your deadlines you give people (what the f7ck was that deadline all about, the man is mentally ill). Pathetic. Ward/Miller/Digby/Je

d take us up boys and show him 'real' commitment, 'real' strength in adversity, 'real' loyalty, 'real' backbone.

madterrier wrote:
While it's more than apparent that Black wanted Paolo out, and I said a while ago that selling Ritchie from under his nose was a way of thumbing Paolo in the eye (if you can accept the mixed metaphor) as a departing gesture, since then it's been a game of bluff and counter bluff with the new owners.

There was no reason for Paolo to set a 5.00pm deadline on Monday. There was little anyone could do, it was all in the League's hands. The new boys could have called him to say they wanted to keep the conversation alive, but I'm assuming as others are, that they simply couldn't afford him (whether they have their own guy lined up or not, and I'm assuming not) and so let that deadline pass by.

You can tell the ball is still in play though. Paolo has issued a statement saying his position was untenable, then he handed in his resignation, then he issued a deadline for his 'temporary agreement'. Yet he's still waiting a response?!! Weird.

When you resign, you resign. Try working in The City, where you are frogmarched off the premises immediately, with perhaps five minutes to gather your personal belongings. No time to shout at the chief executive (which in my case was Fred the Shred, who was being frogmarched off the premises the same day).

The Jockster wrote:

Chish and Fips wrote: Would have been good if PDC had thanked the fans for all the support somewhere in his statement.

Hes already done that! How many times do you want him to say it!

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
So many people have a very short memory.

Paolo Di Canio - Legend.

Black continually avoided conflict and appointed Patey. About as popular as a fox in a chicken run.

At least that is the end of Patey.

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Oldhamred wrote:
For me the most important part of this statement is that PDC claims Jed was aware of the 5pm deadline, yet never made contact with a view to extending. A mistake? Maybe, but I suspect not. Good Luck Paolo....You did us proud.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

The Jockster wrote:
Wiz - fair points made but as I SAP and RobinsT reckon there was no need for the underhand Patey sideswipe and if the Di Canio version of the dead sea scrolls do come into the public domain they will be an interesting read methinks

Always red wrote:
Boo hoo hoo Paolo. what a load of crap
What was wrong with you contacting them and asking have you heard anything yet?
Why has everything got to be about you and poor old me me me !
What about us ,the fans dropped in it again thanks for the memories it was good while it lasted but shut up and move on now ....We've got to!

Wembley69 wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Lets be fair what Chairman would employ him? Anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday? High maintenance they described him as!

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
So many people have a very short memory.

Paolo Di Canio - Legend.

Black continually avoided conflict and appointed Patey. About as popular as a fox in a chicken run.

At least that is the end of Patey.

nosyrudeman wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
For me the most important part of this statement is that PDC claims Jed was aware of the 5pm deadline, yet never made contact with a view to extending. A mistake? Maybe, but I suspect not. Good Luck Paolo....You did us proud.

Paolo, why did you make a deadline in the first place ?

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

sp1dersw3b wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Lets be fair what Chairman would employ him? Anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday? High maintenance they described him as!

LOL - Daily Mail reader - say no more!

Med Red wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

"We are still doing well despite him quitting"..... wonder if you'll be saying that come the end of the season? I'd be a lot more confident of our chances of promotion with Paolo in charge than without him. We will miss his energy, drive and passion. Saturday will be the first time the team will play without any input from Paolo... it will be interesting.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Wembley69 wrote:

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Absolutely spoilt child! Got it wrong in League 2 was given more money to bring more players in and with the biggest budget in league 2 got promotion. Grateful for that of course but what manager deserts a team, a club, the fans when top of a league?

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

It was NOT Paolo that nearly, once again, drove us out of existence - it was whoever, and we know who that was, signed the cheques.

Like some other STFC supporters you and I may never agree on Paolo di Canio - I prefer and wish he was still our manager but you may not.

Stop attempting to weild your wizardly and worldly beliefs as there are two sides to most stories.

Instead, let the 'protagonists' play this out in the background and let us, the fans, get behind the team on Saturday and until the end of the season, as I am fed up with the bickering, swipes, uninformed comments that some post - although I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2-0 to the town on Saturday.

Wembley69 wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Lets be fair what Chairman would employ him? Anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday? High maintenance they described him as!

LOL - Daily Mail reader - say no more!

Doesnt make it wrong though does it!

Stratton Red wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

Good post...

Wembley69 wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Lets be fair what Chairman would employ him? Anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday? High maintenance they described him as!

LOL - Daily Mail reader - say no more!

Doesnt make it wrong though does it!

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Wembley69 wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote: PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending? Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

"We are still doing well despite him quitting"..... wonder if you'll be saying that come the end of the season? I'd be a lot more confident of our chances of promotion with Paolo in charge than without him. We will miss his energy, drive and passion. Saturday will be the first time the team will play without any input from Paolo... it will be interesting.

There again we beat Tranmere without him? There again Orient, Colchester, Brentford we didnt win with him!

Wembley69 wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

"We are still doing well despite him quitting"..... wonder if you'll be saying that come the end of the season? I'd be a lot more confident of our chances of promotion with Paolo in charge than without him. We will miss his energy, drive and passion. Saturday will be the first time the team will play without any input from Paolo... it will be interesting.

There again we beat Tranmere without him? There again Orient, Colchester, Brentford we didnt win with him!

alchafreds wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Absolutely spoilt child! Got it wrong in League 2 was given more money to bring more players in and with the biggest budget in league 2 got promotion. Grateful for that of course but what manager deserts a team, a club, the fans when top of a league?

somebody with morals maybe

stanharlands6shirt wrote:
Having read Paolos piece I still find myself disappointed that he left us when he did. However we have all grown to know and recognise that he is a man of honour and that he suffers fools lightly. None of us, NONE OF US, know the full details. Not knowing the full details, and based only on who has shown the most loyalty to Swindon Town football club, it's players and it's fans, during their time at the club, I ask one simple question, who do you chose to believe ? DiCanio or Patey ? When DiCanio first took over at Swindon I posted on this website that I had been fortunate to spend a small amount of time in his company. One of the things I commented on was that after the farce of the previous Wilson /Hart campaign that I thanked him for giving us back our pride and honour. DiCanio stopped me dead, and said, NO IT IS YOU AND THE SWINDON TOWN FANS THAT HONOUR ME BY LETTING ME MANAGE YOUR TEAM... Patey never honoured us...he sold us down the stream whilst keeping us uninformed. As I said above, I was disappointed that Paolo left us in the way he did. But given his unquestionable loyalty to us up until his decision of Monday night, I ask once more who do you chose to support and stand by..... DiCanio or Patey ? For me I repeat a great mans code, LOYALTY BEFORE EVERYTHING, EXCEPT HONOUR.. FOR MY PART I STILL STAND FOUR SQUARE BEHIND..DiCANIO.

the wizard wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

It was NOT Paolo that nearly, once again, drove us out of existence - it was whoever, and we know who that was, signed the cheques.

Like some other STFC supporters you and I may never agree on Paolo di Canio - I prefer and wish he was still our manager but you may not.

Stop attempting to weild your wizardly and worldly beliefs as there are two sides to most stories.

Instead, let the 'protagonists' play this out in the background and let us, the fans, get behind the team on Saturday and until the end of the season, as I am fed up with the bickering, swipes, uninformed comments that some post - although I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2-0 to the town on Saturday.

I didn't want him to leave either, I ended above, Big Shame, It could have been soooo good. My gripe with him, and I was not alone, was on the name/shame/blame tactic, perhaps a generation thing, but that said, I held the banner, sang his name, held the scarf, sang his name and even wrote to him at the club and asked him simply, Please don't go, please stay and work things out, we will survive, we will play on, we will win, players, supporters, management, united will will stand TOGETHER.
I was not alone as I have discovered many others have also done similar, but he made his choice, as supporters could we have done more, I don't think we could, he is his own man, and sad as it is we cannot change that. In truth I think he will live to regret leaving, what he had here was very special.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

stfc2012 wrote: PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Very rarely agree with you (as you often state this is a prerogative that I am entitled) but on this occasion stfc2012 I agree with you 100%

stfc2012 wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
The Town's statement doesn't seem nearly as bad as Di Canio seems to be thinking. Might have been nice to have thanked him for what he did but the club might think Di Canio did the dirty on them rather than the other way round, so stuff him. The backroom staff's statement on Tue just seemed to be another plug for how great Team PDC was.

It seems to be the usual "me me me" from Di Canio. We've only got his word these things occurred and I think a lot of it is down to how he sees this as being all about him:

The whole squad being up for sale - was it? I've seen it reported as an administrator said this but we weren't in administration, so there wasn't an administrator in place. Elsewhere it's been reported as an agent saying this - which agent? There is also the possibility that what was actually said was that the club would listen to offers for anyone, but they'd do that anyway really. "The whole squad is for sale" implies a firesale which is something else.

Ritchie sold behind his back? He claims he heard from Ritchie himself which is a bit poor, but if the club had to sell at best he'd had have been told as a courtesy - whatever his view was would have been neither here nor there.

He'd be better off shutting up now. Coming out with this might play well to a few of his fans on here but is he really doing himself any favours to any chairmen who might be thinking of employing him?

Lets be fair what Chairman would employ him? Anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday? High maintenance they described him as!

LOL - Daily Mail reader - say no more!

Doesnt make it wrong though does it!

High maintenance agreed. If they do want to get points, win games but spend a few pounds along the way then he's ideal. Everyone knows what they are getting though so they can't moan about it after. He's Di Canio, he likes to spend, he doesn't mind falling out with a player and he's egotistical. He also has great fan pulling power, is passionate, entertaining and has a win percentage better than most managers.

vikingred wrote:
Paolo, you should have stayed, at least for the sake of the Fans that have backed you from the start. You have hurt the ones that loved you most by walking away.

Wembley69 wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Absolutely spoilt child! Got it wrong in League 2 was given more money to bring more players in and with the biggest budget in league 2 got promotion. Grateful for that of course but what manager deserts a team, a club, the fans when top of a league?

somebody with morals maybe

Morals!!! Dump the club that gave you a chance? Dump your players? Let down all the supporters that helped pay your salary? Quit the day before the most important game of League One, morals? You are having a laugh!

Ian13 wrote:
I met Paolo a couple of times and everything I've read about him confirms he was very passionate about his football and believed strongly in honesty and integrity. We saw his family values when his parents died.
I believe he gave his all for Swindon and he probably feels let down by the new and old owners that they betrayed him.
Thank you Paolo and best wishes for the future.

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

It was NOT Paolo that nearly, once again, drove us out of existence - it was whoever, and we know who that was, signed the cheques.

Like some other STFC supporters you and I may never agree on Paolo di Canio - I prefer and wish he was still our manager but you may not.

Stop attempting to weild your wizardly and worldly beliefs as there are two sides to most stories.

Instead, let the 'protagonists' play this out in the background and let us, the fans, get behind the team on Saturday and until the end of the season, as I am fed up with the bickering, swipes, uninformed comments that some post - although I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2-0 to the town on Saturday.

I didn't want him to leave either, I ended above, Big Shame, It could have been soooo good. My gripe with him, and I was not alone, was on the name/shame/blame tactic, perhaps a generation thing, but that said, I held the banner, sang his name, held the scarf, sang his name and even wrote to him at the club and asked him simply, Please don't go, please stay and work things out, we will survive, we will play on, we will win, players, supporters, management, united will will stand TOGETHER.
I was not alone as I have discovered many others have also done similar, but he made his choice, as supporters could we have done more, I don't think we could, he is his own man, and sad as it is we cannot change that. In truth I think he will live to regret leaving, what he had here was very special.

I still support and love STFC and did all those gestures of support to Paolo as you did .... identically!

However, I still support Paolo, wherever he might end up, it appears you actually do not - my blind loyalty?

Maybe, but let's hear all sides of this draining saga and then make a judgement.

Too many emotion led outbursts by all
with unsubstantiated facts currently, but whatever, I will still support STFC with or without Paolo.(Just might not renew my season ticket if any sub standard person sits in that battered dug-out).

the wizard wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

It was NOT Paolo that nearly, once again, drove us out of existence - it was whoever, and we know who that was, signed the cheques.

Like some other STFC supporters you and I may never agree on Paolo di Canio - I prefer and wish he was still our manager but you may not.

Stop attempting to weild your wizardly and worldly beliefs as there are two sides to most stories.

Instead, let the 'protagonists' play this out in the background and let us, the fans, get behind the team on Saturday and until the end of the season, as I am fed up with the bickering, swipes, uninformed comments that some post - although I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2-0 to the town on Saturday.

I didn't want him to leave either, I ended above, Big Shame, It could have been soooo good. My gripe with him, and I was not alone, was on the name/shame/blame tactic, perhaps a generation thing, but that said, I held the banner, sang his name, held the scarf, sang his name and even wrote to him at the club and asked him simply, Please don't go, please stay and work things out, we will survive, we will play on, we will win, players, supporters, management, united will will stand TOGETHER.
I was not alone as I have discovered many others have also done similar, but he made his choice, as supporters could we have done more, I don't think we could, he is his own man, and sad as it is we cannot change that. In truth I think he will live to regret leaving, what he had here was very special.

pcowley wrote:
Talking about honestly everything Di Canio said was true to his word.And it all happened.Thats why he gets so passionate about things because he wears his heart on his sleeve and truly says what his believes in and want his principles are. what did Black or Patey ever say?Basically they couldn't afford Di Canio.They hacked him off and then he walked.Thats obvious!If you get taken for a ride you would walk.

the wizard wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:

sp1dersw3b wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

It was NOT Paolo that nearly, once again, drove us out of existence - it was whoever, and we know who that was, signed the cheques.

Like some other STFC supporters you and I may never agree on Paolo di Canio - I prefer and wish he was still our manager but you may not.

Stop attempting to weild your wizardly and worldly beliefs as there are two sides to most stories.

Instead, let the 'protagonists' play this out in the background and let us, the fans, get behind the team on Saturday and until the end of the season, as I am fed up with the bickering, swipes, uninformed comments that some post - although I agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2-0 to the town on Saturday.

I didn't want him to leave either, I ended above, Big Shame, It could have been soooo good. My gripe with him, and I was not alone, was on the name/shame/blame tactic, perhaps a generation thing, but that said, I held the banner, sang his name, held the scarf, sang his name and even wrote to him at the club and asked him simply, Please don't go, please stay and work things out, we will survive, we will play on, we will win, players, supporters, management, united will will stand TOGETHER.
I was not alone as I have discovered many others have also done similar, but he made his choice, as supporters could we have done more, I don't think we could, he is his own man, and sad as it is we cannot change that. In truth I think he will live to regret leaving, what he had here was very special.

I still support and love STFC and did all those gestures of support to Paolo as you did .... identically!

However, I still support Paolo, wherever he might end up, it appears you actually do not - my blind loyalty?

Maybe, but let's hear all sides of this draining saga and then make a judgement.

Too many emotion led outbursts by all
with unsubstantiated facts currently, but whatever, I will still support STFC with or without Paolo.(Just might not renew my season ticket if any sub standard person sits in that battered dug-out).

If PDC has something to say then he should say it now as there is no libel in the truth, so why not just tell it and lets all be done. I'm not having a go at anyone, much too tired to do that, and like everyone else tired of this saga, but if he has something to say he should come out with it, nothing has stopped him before has it. he has been the big man with the players, and the press and to a point with Black and Patey, so come on , spill the beans, so we can ALL move on.

alchafreds wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

alchafreds wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

sideshow_bob wrote:

the wizard wrote: Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

This.

Absolutely spoilt child! Got it wrong in League 2 was given more money to bring more players in and with the biggest budget in league 2 got promotion. Grateful for that of course but what manager deserts a team, a club, the fans when top of a league?

somebody with morals maybe

Morals!!! Dump the club that gave you a chance? Dump your players? Let down all the supporters that helped pay your salary? Quit the day before the most important game of League One, morals? You are having a laugh!

agreed to take a pay cut prepared to pay loan players wages shoveled snow off the pitch till 10pm, then to be told everything you have built is now up for sale get real

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Dear Paolo,
I have enjoyed immensely your leadership of stfc and I respect you utterly. I never met you but admire you for yor energy, passion, enthusiasm, humour, respect to others, loyalty, vision, hidden compasssion that leaks out from time to time. I shared your hurt when your parents died as if it were mine own. I shed a tear with you when yo did. I felt hurt that Matt Ritchie was sld by AB and despite the ultimate need to do so - I felt betrayed as you did - if only because I felt like an outsider with my own club - all behind closed doors. You relit my fire for stfc as you did many others. I doubt stfc will ever see your like again. I felt - unreasonably perhaps - betrayed by you when your back room staff left more than when you resigned as I felt that was reality and finality. If ever you want to return to stfc I for one will be your first to say "HERO". We all wanted the same thing and may I say - my heart lies beating on the concrete that you could not stay. If you commit to stfc in the future - so shall I. Reality is that nobody can be bigger than the club even though your were and are. I respect that you were betrayed and unfortunately - the bank closed at midday. Sad but true. I will always admire you no matter what happens please think well of stfc, its fans, the players and the town. We do - all - adore the man that is Paolo Di Canio. I can be contacted on this site or via SM through the adver and Sam - you need to collect the stories - the man is a diamond. Shine on you crazy diamond!

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

the wizard wrote:
Sp1der, I don't think anyone with any class would start to spill beans now, that is all for gilted women who want to bring their ex-man down, kiss and tell, what is to be gained in he said/she said. So they start tweeting, really ? how quaint ? after how many brandys ?

Why not just pull down the shutters and leave it, instead of bickering like school kids, leave it, its gone, all done and dusted, walk away and leave it behind, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of our lives, and tweeting, well that aint going to change what has already happened. Time for bed, I enjoyed the chat, until the next time.... tonight I'll sleep easier, G'nite.

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Paolo Di Canio came to this Club with a team and a promise. His objective to get the club into the championship in 3 years.
Yes he was given a decent budget and yes that budget was mainly funded by Andrew Black.
However that budget was agreed. If Black took his eye off the ball in terms of funding then not a good decision from a businessman. Don't budgets get discussed at Board meetings ?

We know that the tribunal figure set for Troy and Collins was in excess of our valuation and we had to pay upfront that took us over the wage cap but that is not the Managers problem.

Black wanted out. No problem as it is his money and investment but this was the change to the plan and from the rushed sale it all started to go downhill.

Reading these posts tonight disappoints me. The tenure of PDC is up with the best. My Saturday nights were mainly enjoyable having witnessed another great display. A tactical genius and motivator. A hard act to follow but life will go on for sure and so glad we did not go into administration but the recent actions of Mr Black could have caused this and he demonstrated disregard to PDC and the supporters of this club.
The 3 year plan thus was changed. PDC is his own man, a man of his word and those values I uphold for any Man.

I will draw a Line under recent events and of course move on but I will never forget the PDC era and what he bought to this small club in Wiltshire. A man of principal.

If only Black would have stated to the public his intention to sell at the end of the season then none of this recent mess would have happened. It was just his conviction that I disliked. Sell out and put the threat of potentially the end of the club and you want to thank someone for doing that, sorry I can't.

Good luck Jed and the New Board and to the next Manager.

nosyrudeman wrote:
How much money has Phil Spencer taken out of this club as an agent involved in a lot of transfers. What was his role ? Cause I just thought he was PDC's agent.

the wizard wrote:
Sp1der, I don't think anyone with any class would start to spill beans now, that is all for gilted women who want to bring their ex-man down, kiss and tell, what is to be gained in he said/she said. So they start tweeting, really ? how quaint ? after how many brandys ?

Why not just pull down the shutters and leave it, instead of bickering like school kids, leave it, its gone, all done and dusted, walk away and leave it behind, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of our lives, and tweeting, well that aint going to change what has already happened. Time for bed, I enjoyed the chat, until the next time.... tonight I'll sleep easier, G'nite.

jayden wrote:

the wizard wrote:
Sp1der, I don't think anyone with any class would start to spill beans now, that is all for gilted women who want to bring their ex-man down, kiss and tell, what is to be gained in he said/she said. So they start tweeting, really ? how quaint ? after how many brandys ?

Why not just pull down the shutters and leave it, instead of bickering like school kids, leave it, its gone, all done and dusted, walk away and leave it behind, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of our lives, and tweeting, well that aint going to change what has already happened. Time for bed, I enjoyed the chat, until the next time.... tonight I'll sleep easier, G'nite.

spot on wiz bicker as much as they like least we still have a club to go and watch still.

Wembley69 wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

"We are still doing well despite him quitting"..... wonder if you'll be saying that come the end of the season? I'd be a lot more confident of our chances of promotion with Paolo in charge than without him. We will miss his energy, drive and passion. Saturday will be the first time the team will play without any input from Paolo... it will be interesting.

There again we beat Tranmere without him? There again Orient, Colchester, Brentford we didnt win with him!

old town robin wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Med Red wrote:

Wembley69 wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Top post sir!

Total rubbish the previous owners spent and spent ££££s They gave him everything and still he wanted more! With his budget any manager would have achieved! Have you forgotten the lesson of Leeds who kept spending?
Get real, how close were we to administration? We are still doing well despite him quitting!

"We are still doing well despite him quitting"..... wonder if you'll be saying that come the end of the season? I'd be a lot more confident of our chances of promotion with Paolo in charge than without him. We will miss his energy, drive and passion. Saturday will be the first time the team will play without any input from Paolo... it will be interesting.

There again we beat Tranmere without him? There again Orient, Colchester, Brentford we didnt win with him!

what a stupid statement to insinuate Paolo was somehow to blame for losing those 3 home games or were you referring to the away games when we actually beat Colchester. You're not a regular on here and sound like you've just crawled out the woodwork.FYI, he has a 68% win percentage, we've only lost 6 this season, which is better than any other team than the blades, unbeaten in 2013 on a run of 11 games I believe with a threadbare squad to choose from, conceeded less and scored more than any other team and you come out with that crap after winning 1 game without him in charge

I think Paolo has been hasty with his decision to quit when he did and probably already regrets not being a bit more restrained. One thing I do know I agree with Med red, all you Paolo bashers have been waiting a long time to have your day, total hypocrits slagging him off now, you will have time to reflect at the end of the season if jethro's messiah turns out to be another dud like Hart and the new board screw it up and we're still in the aweful level of football next season.

I'm prepared to give the new board the benefit of the doubt, but quite honestly I'm not expecting too much. Why don't you and the rest of the Paolo haters just accept yes he has made mistakes as everyone has and quitting us as he did is probably his biggest one. I know with my own career i walked after 16 years because of bad management and it worked out fine for me in the end. If Paolo felt his position was untenible, with whats happened in the last 4 months, I would tend to agree with him. How quickly people forget the shovelling of snow, the times he has posed for pictures with the kids, the image rights for medical facilities.

I've read so much garbage on here tonight think I need to have a puke before bedtime.

Brainy_G93 wrote:
Let's give it a rest. Who cares what Patey and DiCanio has to say, they are STFC history.

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

Oi Den! wrote:
Maybe at 17:00 on Monday the old and new owners were busy trying to make sure we still had a club to support. How difficult would it have been for the two parties to sign a new agreement after that time? PDC says the club did not contact him. There were two parties to the agreement. Did he contact the club to try to extend it? It smacks of an act of brinkmanship by PDC. And why did he resign in the first place if he was so keen to stay?
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Don't know about everyone else but I'm starting to feel relieved that we've got the STFC show back on the road.
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If PDC wants to get everyone on his side, he should spill all the beans - now.

bradley red 1 wrote:
Paolo di canio daily mail article tommorow"unbeli
evabl
e,"

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Stratton Red wrote:
Apparently back page of the Daily Mail tomorrow reads...
*
NIGHT RAIDER PAOLO - Swindon change locks after former manager Di Canio storms office...
*
I sh1t you not...

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

The Jockster wrote:
Wiz - fair points made but as I SAP and RobinsT reckon there was no need for the underhand Patey sideswipe and if the Di Canio version of the dead sea scrolls do come into the public domain they will be an interesting read methinks

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Paolo Di Canio came to this Club with a team and a promise. His objective to get the club into the championship in 3 years.
Yes he was given a decent budget and yes that budget was mainly funded by Andrew Black.
However that budget was agreed. If Black took his eye off the ball in terms of funding then not a good decision from a businessman. Don't budgets get discussed at Board meetings ?

We know that the tribunal figure set for Troy and Collins was in excess of our valuation and we had to pay upfront that took us over the wage cap but that is not the Managers problem.

Black wanted out. No problem as it is his money and investment but this was the change to the plan and from the rushed sale it all started to go downhill.

Reading these posts tonight disappoints me. The tenure of PDC is up with the best. My Saturday nights were mainly enjoyable having witnessed another great display. A tactical genius and motivator. A hard act to follow but life will go on for sure and so glad we did not go into administration but the recent actions of Mr Black could have caused this and he demonstrated disregard to PDC and the supporters of this club.
The 3 year plan thus was changed. PDC is his own man, a man of his word and those values I uphold for any Man.

I will draw a Line under recent events and of course move on but I will never forget the PDC era and what he bought to this small club in Wiltshire. A man of principal.

If only Black would have stated to the public his intention to sell at the end of the season then none of this recent mess would have happened. It was just his conviction that I disliked. Sell out and put the threat of potentially the end of the club and you want to thank someone for doing that, sorry I can't.

Good luck Jed and the New Board and to the next Manager.

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Stratton Red wrote:
Apparently back page of the Daily Mail tomorrow reads...
*
NIGHT RAIDER PAOLO - Swindon change locks after former manager Di Canio storms office...
*
I sh1t you not...

Oldhamred wrote:
I have been trying to think of an occasion when Paolo has told us anything but the truth.

Personally, I will take a lot of convincing that he is a liar.


SWP however??????

Need I say more?

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Over the years I have seen more tits up than down. I love to see the pink of their eyes shining like a pair of beautiful sunsets over the Med. Oh what the golden aura of brown meets pink could mean to the unappreciative eye in the sunset of my burned up life. Shine on you crazy diamond.

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

Cookie43 wrote:
When i was a kid my mum had a saying "6 to one and half a dozen to the other"
Yes the old board sold Ritchie behind his back but it was that or admin so they say. Did the new board want Pdc to quit?
None of us know and we probably never will.
All i know is that Pdc was under contract and if he was that loyal which he says he believes in then he should of stayed and repaid the loyalty that we the fans have shown him. back to back promotions in his first 2 seasons as a manager, What a great C.V that would be!!
But he quit and how ever you want to look at it he left us in the lurch.
i loved him and thought he was a fantastic manager for us and for what he did for us. But he up sticks and left.
At Tranmere tues i saw my team work their nuts off and the players deserve all the credit. and at the end when they came over to us you could tell how much it meant to them and to be honest i read Mccormacks reactions as this was all us and you (meaning the fans) words can not express how proud i was of my team on tues Gary Roberts at the end was so happy and he deserved to be. and it showed me that with a group of lads like we have there is life after paolo.
We can talk all we like but he has gone now its us and the team
managers players owners come and go but we the fans are STFC
So lets get behind the lads and get 3 points on saturday if PDC did not want to be here for what could be another fantastic promotion then so be it.
Come on you reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oldhamred wrote:
I have been trying to think of an occasion when Paolo has told us anything but the truth.

Personally, I will take a lot of convincing that he is a liar.


SWP however??????

Need I say more?

Oi Den! wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Over the years I have seen more tits up than down. I love to see the pink of their eyes shining like a pair of beautiful sunsets over the Med. Oh what the golden aura of brown meets pink could mean to the unappreciative eye in the sunset of my burned up life. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Hmmm. They must brew some good stuff down in Dorset.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

So this HIGH POWERED businessman who shied from the limelight and would not talk publicly.....or privately for that matter....to the press or anyone else is NOW SUDDENLY blurting everything out on twitter!!??
...
If true then shame on him - he should have better morals and more balls to do it publicly and not hide behind a keypad.
...
Personally I truly doubt that such a man would stoop so low and would bet on it being an unauthorised outlet.

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Paolo has been treated badly, and I have heard from a contact at the BBC that he will be speaking on Football Focus.

Court action possibly to follow? Breach of contract?

This will run more than Mo Farah...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

So this HIGH POWERED businessman who shied from the limelight and would not talk publicly.....or privately for that matter....to the press or anyone else is NOW SUDDENLY blurting everything out on twitter!!??
...
If true then shame on him - he should have better morals and more balls to do it publicly and not hide behind a keypad.
...
Personally I truly doubt that such a man would stoop so low and would bet on it being an unauthorised outlet.

Oi Den! wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Over the years I have seen more tits up than down. I love to see the pink of their eyes shining like a pair of beautiful sunsets over the Med. Oh what the golden aura of brown meets pink could mean to the unappreciative eye in the sunset of my burned up life. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Hmmm. They must brew some good stuff down in Dorset.

robstfc wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Agreed.... Very interesting comments. I didn't know that JW was a massive west ham fan..... Sounds like he idolised Paolo.....

Also mentioned that when relegated, very nearly went into admin then. Black feared with big points deduction we would go out the league completely.... Amazing stuff.....

the don69 wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

So this HIGH POWERED businessman who shied from the limelight and would not talk publicly.....or privately for that matter....to the press or anyone else is NOW SUDDENLY blurting everything out on twitter!!??
...
If true then shame on him - he should have better morals and more balls to do it publicly and not hide behind a keypad.
...
Personally I truly doubt that such a man would stoop so low and would bet on it being an unauthorised outlet.

It's Black for sure Sapfan,talking nags with Owen!!!!!!

sp1dersw3b wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

So this HIGH POWERED businessman who shied from the limelight and would not talk publicly.....or privately for that matter....to the press or anyone else is NOW SUDDENLY blurting everything out on twitter!!??
...
If true then shame on him - he should have better morals and more balls to do it publicly and not hide behind a keypad.
...
Personally I truly doubt that such a man would stoop so low and would bet on it being an unauthorised outlet.

SAP it is AB and just guess the NDA no longer holds any force.

Sam is trying to get a 1-2-1 with him - this was about 60 minutes ago.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Paolo has been treated badly, and I have heard from a contact at the BBC that he will be speaking on Football Focus.

Court action possibly to follow? Breach of contract?

This will run more than Mo Farah...

So long as he sues Black and not STFC then fine by me!

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Paolo has been treated badly, and I have heard from a contact at the BBC that he will be speaking on Football Focus.

Court action possibly to follow? Breach of contract?

This will run more than Mo Farah...

So long as he sues Black and not STFC then fine by me!

I doubt very much Black would lie over this. I'd imagine he knows exactly what he is saying/tweeting. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who opens his mouth without thinking first.

OTOH, Di Canio does, or at least he gets carried away with what he's saying and goes too far. More likely to be Di Canio in court for slander than anything else. I can't imagine a breach of contract claim would work as things like transfer budgets or having to okay player sales wouldn't be in any contract (and Black would be able to argue that without these changes there would be no club left). I'd be surprised if PDC had a leg to stand on (although a BoC would be against the club so perhaps some people on here might want to be careful what they wish for).

southside7 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Over the years I have seen more tits up than down. I love to see the pink of their eyes shining like a pair of beautiful sunsets over the Med. Oh what the golden aura of brown meets pink could mean to the unappreciative eye in the sunset of my burned up life. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Hmmm. They must brew some good stuff down in Dorset.

great post ciclo, bit of poetry, prose and a pink floyd classic never hurt anyone. i diasagree with you on vetting your offspring's future spouse for financial viability as I'm an old romantic that believes in love before money, but this is the best post I have read in the past few years I've been posting...a man after my own heart ...maybe you could be the right wing and me the left wing (which is why I never really loved the PdC) I'm the left side...I'm the left side ...I'm the left side over 'ere

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

hornet wrote:
Andrew Black letting it all out on Twitter if true this Guy has been wrongly slaughtered over the last couple of weeks

So this HIGH POWERED businessman who shied from the limelight and would not talk publicly.....or privately for that matter....to the press or anyone else is NOW SUDDENLY blurting everything out on twitter!!??
...
If true then shame on him - he should have better morals and more balls to do it publicly and not hide behind a keypad.
...
Personally I truly doubt that such a man would stoop so low and would bet on it being an unauthorised outlet.

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:
I have been trying to think of an occasion when Paolo has told us anything but the truth.

Personally, I will take a lot of convincing that he is a liar.


SWP however??????

Need I say more?

Genuine question - how do you know what he says is the truth? It's his word vs other peoples'.

Surely it's just his word vs other peoples'? We can all choose who we believe or to what extent we believe one side or the other, but I do not see how any of us can be certain.

The Jockster wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Why on earth would I ?

ciclosporindorset wrote:

southside7 wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

ciclosporindorset wrote:
Over the years I have seen more tits up than down. I love to see the pink of their eyes shining like a pair of beautiful sunsets over the Med. Oh what the golden aura of brown meets pink could mean to the unappreciative eye in the sunset of my burned up life. Shine on you crazy diamond.

Hmmm. They must brew some good stuff down in Dorset.

great post ciclo, bit of poetry, prose and a pink floyd classic never hurt anyone. i diasagree with you on vetting your offspring's future spouse for financial viability as I'm an old romantic that believes in love before money, but this is the best post I have read in the past few years I've been posting...a man after my own heart ...maybe you could be the right wing and me the left wing (which is why I never really loved the PdC) I'm the left side...I'm the left side ...I'm the left side over 'ere

Thank you. To some I am a genius. To others a complete hazel. Most don't know me so I don't need another identity and as far as I can see the one I have is too much anyway! Live for today.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

SimonPrice351 wrote:
Paolo has been treated badly, and I have heard from a contact at the BBC that he will be speaking on Football Focus.

Court action possibly to follow? Breach of contract?

This will run more than Mo Farah...

So long as he sues Black and not STFC then fine by me!

I doubt very much Black would lie over this. I'd imagine he knows exactly what he is saying/tweeting. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who opens his mouth without thinking first.

OTOH, Di Canio does, or at least he gets carried away with what he's saying and goes too far. More likely to be Di Canio in court for slander than anything else. I can't imagine a breach of contract claim would work as things like transfer budgets or having to okay player sales wouldn't be in any contract (and Black would be able to argue that without these changes there would be no club left). I'd be surprised if PDC had a leg to stand on (although a BoC would be against the club so perhaps some people on here might want to be careful what they wish for).

Just goes to show how opinions can be at different ends of the spectrum.
.
If you accept twitters from a man in his position as being gospel i.e. he can't front up and be a real man by fronting up then, to my mind and in my humble opinion, regardless of what level of truth it is wrong.
.
I work in business but at no level near his and I wouldn't dream of twittering any thoughts on matters such as this.
.
For all your previous matters of morals this post leads me to underline my prior view and that is that you are merely looking to rile the posters and generate conflict....however, good for you for posting as most clubs don't have more than three - we on STFC have a healthy following and 95%+ all love their club - the others come from all around as they have nothing on their forums to read.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

the don69 wrote:

robstfc wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Agreed.... Very interesting comments. I didn't know that JW was a massive west ham fan..... Sounds like he idolised Paolo.....

Also mentioned that when relegated, very nearly went into admin then. Black feared with big points deduction we would go out the league completely.... Amazing stuff.....

Bloody hell we could have done a Luton,amazing how these guys love a tweet>!!!!!!

Wilesy wrote:
Jed on Twitter sounds like he is trying to sort something out with Paolo, he has called Spencer this evening apparently. Presumably it's not just to get the key back :-)

Don't rule anything out chaps.

Black on Twitter spoke frankly but nothing too contentious. No reason given for the rushed exit. Made Jeremy Wray sound like Paolo's number 1 fan though.

louiscassius wrote:

Wilesy wrote:
Jed on Twitter sounds like he is trying to sort something out with Paolo, he has called Spencer this evening apparently. Presumably it's not just to get the key back :-)

Don't rule anything out chaps.

Black on Twitter spoke frankly but nothing too contentious. No reason given for the rushed exit. Made Jeremy Wray sound like Paolo's number 1 fan though.

Mate,

Whats Andrews Twitter name

I know its Andrew Black
but @...???

Cheers

louiscassius wrote:

the don69 wrote:

robstfc wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Agreed.... Very interesting comments. I didn't know that JW was a massive west ham fan..... Sounds like he idolised Paolo.....

Also mentioned that when relegated, very nearly went into admin then. Black feared with big points deduction we would go out the league completely.... Amazing stuff.....

Bloody hell we could have done a Luton,amazing how these guys love a tweet>!!!!!!

Whats Andrews Blacks Twitter Names??

Town Of The Future wrote:
oh how easy it is to mock and slate DiCanio now he's gone. 2 months ago, those that bothered to go, were sat in the CG singing his name!
Fickle, pathetic and childish.
I'm also so glad someone who has guided us to our highest league position in ten years, was considered a 'waste of money' and not allowed to talk about himself. Get a Life!!

Oldhamred wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

the don69 wrote:

robstfc wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

The Jockster wrote:

Nigel, Denver CO wrote:
Andrew Black is really opening up on Twitter in the last hour....

saying what then? not everyones on tw@tter!

I'm not on it either and don't have a clue about it. But I did a search for "Andrew Black twitter" and found some interesting comments.

Sign up then!!!!!

E-mail address is all you need.

Agreed.... Very interesting comments. I didn't know that JW was a massive west ham fan..... Sounds like he idolised Paolo.....

Also mentioned that when relegated, very nearly went into admin then. Black feared with big points deduction we would go out the league completely.... Amazing stuff.....

Bloody hell we could have done a Luton,amazing how these guys love a tweet>!!!!!!

Whats Andrews Blacks Twitter Names??

Andrew Blacks Twitter feed is: @bertthebold

Wilesy wrote:
@bertthebold

He's back tweeting now, plenty to say about Di Canio and Spencer.

louiscassius wrote:

Wilesy wrote:
@bertthebold

He's back tweeting now, plenty to say about Di Canio and Spencer.

Whats jeds mate??

Oldhamred wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Wilesy wrote:
@bertthebold

He's back tweeting now, plenty to say about Di Canio and Spencer.

Whats jeds mate??

@JedMcCoy

louiscassius wrote:

Oldhamred wrote:

louiscassius wrote:

Wilesy wrote:
@bertthebold

He's back tweeting now, plenty to say about Di Canio and Spencer.

Whats jeds mate??

@JedMcCoy

cheers buddy...

This twitter is brilliant...

I'll have to go to bed now its 1 am/....lol

Up at 4.30...lol

sp1dersw3b wrote:
AB twitter stuff so far: -

OK - well thank you all for your kind words - well some of you anyway.
When I decided to stand alone and support the club it was a disaster scenario - relegated to League 2, facing sure administration and with a heavy FL point’s deduction there would have been a major chance of falling out of the leagues at the end of the season.
The club also had no manager...
I was never there for the long term - I just wanted to restore some respectability.
Today we sit at the top of league 1, again with no manager. As far as I'm concerned it's job done.
I never signed up to the '3 year plan' - it was only presented to me once, and then only briefly...
As it happens in 2011 I agreed to sell the club at the end of that season. Paolo knew about this. Unfortunately the deal fell through. The deal fell through because the FL concluded that they couldn't afford to run the club. One of their main backers died suddenly in the final weeks. It was all a bit tragic.
I put Jeremy in as chairman at the start if the 2011 season - for various reasons I wasn't comfortable but I didn't have anyone else.
Jeremy and Nick interviewed Paolo and thought he was the right guy - I stayed in the background as I prefer. We gave him a 2 year contract.
I've known Jeremy for half my life - he was a huge West Ham fan, and in particular almost obsessive about Di Canio. This concerned me.
There was a lot of debt in the holding company, much owed to Sir Martyn Arbib, but he was always happy to write it off, as I was with mine. The remainder was owed to Andrew Fitton; who was Jeremy's business partner. He wasn't prepared to write it off. It was very messy. Andrew and Jeremy did not want me to sell.. and we ended up falling out. I won't go into the detail here.
I decided I 2011 that I would have to replace Jeremy, but it took a long time to find someone. Chairing a football club is not easy. Sir William did an amazing job for which he will never get full credit. I am hugely in his debt.
I never got to know Paolo very well - I only met him a handful of times. Sitting in a board meeting with him is pretty surreal. I said many times to Nick that we should get the cameras in for a fly on the wall documentary…
Anyway as the (first) sale of the club was going through FL approval Di Canio and Spencer presented us with a new contract with only a few days to accept. I said it wasn't my concern as I thought I had sold the club. The contract went through and then I ended up owning .the club again. It seemed to be a very one sided contract. I had no choice but to accept it. A couple of months later I replaced Jeremy and relations started breaking down very quickly. I hadn't been happy with what had happened over Caddis and I had had a sense of humour failure when the club breached the wage cap and went into embargo. I had repeatedly asked at the board for all player transactions to be communicated and I had had virtual radio silence. Di Canio and Spencer were not happy with the chairman being changed and began issuing press releases criticising the board. I didn't like the way it was going.

the wizard wrote:
Very true maybe, but if you had stayed the course like we all begged you to with our show of solidarity you could have influenced this statement somewhat, instead, you choose to go instead of staying to fight and put right some of the wrongs, and that was your decision and nobody else's. While the supporters are sorry to see you go and up sticks the way and in the manner in which you have, you must remember, we too have given our all, over a longer period and through much more adversity than the last few frustrating weeks. The mettle of the man is not so much the results but in the adversity in which he obtains them. You Sir enjoyed a wonderful time with J Wray and Phil Spencer, not many clubs can afford that luxury, and I suspect no other League Two club or League One club either could afford your re cycling rate of players. Time for you to stand like a man and manage players on a budget of 10% of zero like many at our club have done in years gone by. Thanks for what you achieved on the pitch, but you nearly drove us out of existence, sympathy from some may be hard to come by, asking for understanding may be met with a different view. Acting like a spoilt child again, will win you no friends at all, sadly through your choice you have become yesterdays man, now you have to live with it while we look to move on. Big Shame. it could have been sooooo good.

stfc2012 wrote:
PDC forced out. Board had no intention of keeping him on. They did enough to make it impossible for him to carry on while they said all the right things to fans or at least tried to. They wanted him to walk and won and some fans already forgotten about him. I'm a big critic of his but they've done a job on him here. It was a political battle from the moment it was announced we were up for sale. Both parties wanting the fans on side. PDC won that game Tuesday night with his team despite not taking training. His tactics, his team's fitness coaching, direction, video match scouting, tactics - the lot was all him and his team. The boys did it but let's not forget he's got us to the top whether people like him or not. His methods and personality. Its another manager's job to lose the title now so lots of pressure. He'd have got us up. He'd have wanted to stay and get back to back titles and my guess he'd take a massive pay cut just for that - and 10 more weeks - why wouldn't he? Because they made it impossible for him to stay. I'm a big critic of his earlier signings in his career here, some of his actions and comments and that he had a good budget - but he got us up and then top of L1. Board are fools for not trying to keep him here for a few more months.