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Updated 1:00pm Friday 15th February 2013 in Sport
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12:59pm
Thanks for your time, ladies and gents, hopefully that cleared up some questions you may have although I appreciate plenty remain unanswered.
Enjoy your weekends.
12:57pm
12:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Red Rascal says
Sam, seems to me that any owner will be looking at the financial equivalent of a black hole with ownership of Swindon until the facilities can generate more money. Do you know anything of their plans on that side of ownership and anything about the Councils current attitute to that?
I'm afraid this is one area I cannot give any insight to right now. We'll have to wait for official comment on this. Apologies.
12:57pm
12:40pm Fri 15 Feb 13
sadgit says
What is happening with the Luke Rooney situation?
It's in limbo until the situation regarding Marlon Pack can be resolved.
12:55pm
12:36pm Fri 15 Feb 13
jimbog says
Hi Sam, just out of interest, what is/was the agenda for the players / Di Canio today, and of course tomorrow since there is no game? Training and/or charity work etc., time off? Cheers
The players are due in training over the course of the weekend. They had a few days off after the game against Hartlepool.
12:55pm
12:33pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Super Mario TV says
Good Afternoon Sam, I understand you have already said that the new board will put putting some money into the club this season and next, but my question are the incoming board cash rich in terms of having available millions available to invest in the club?
The money is there to sustain the club in the immediate future. I am not convinced the board fall under the heading "cash rich" but that's not to say the consortium is made up of others who are.
12:54pm
12:29pm Fri 15 Feb 13
stfclondon says
Ther has been some interesting debate on here lately about how to ensure the long-term stability of the club. Some feel that a rich benefactor like Andrew Black is the only way forward. Others think that sustainability should be our aim, including the possibility of the supporters' Trust owning a share of the club, like the Swansea model.
Do you think Swindon can be successful while staying within the financial fair play rules, and is fan ownership a realistic prospect?
Clubs are going to have to learn to be successful within those boundaries, although I imagine the majority will have already figured out where the loopholes are.
I don't think fan ownership is a realistic short-term objective but I believe it is crucial for a community club like Swindon to have the fans embedded in its heart and soul - therefore it would be terrific for the club to see a large percentage of its shareholding bought up by supporters.
In a way that protects it more for the future, but given the economic climate and the changing nature of football ownership only a handful of clubs have managed it.
12:52pm
12:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13
The Jockster says
Why did the FL reject McGrory's attempted takeover of Luton- are there any "warnings" the FL should need as a result in approving the same guy wanting to take over STFC?
I don't know the ins and outs of that matter. The Football League have been very thorough with this assessment, mainly due to Swindon's troubled financial history, and they are satisfied.
12:51pm
#stfcadver do u think this new board has been brought in as a stop gap until another interested party can get the relevant paperwork & money
— @justinmorton74 15 February 2013
12:50pm
12:21pm Fri 15 Feb 13
pug ugly says
Being a cynical old git, I can't shake the feeling that the prospective owners are nothing but asset strippers.
Sure, they'll say the right things to placate fans but I can see our playing assets being sold one by one, replaced on the cheap, PdC being replaced by some non-entity of a manager and when the heat is really on they will disappear with pockets full of wonga, courtesy of STFC.
What's your take?
I don't think it's a feasible outcome. I understand the funds will be there to allow the club to strengthen in the loan window, while McCrory has already come out to back a working relationship with Di Canio - regardless of the terms of his NDA and the fact the manager has cast speculation over his own future.
In essence, the new owners prevented the club from being in a very dark place and for that I feel they need to be allowed the chance to settle in and express what they want to do for the community and the club.
From what I hear, I am impressed. Obviously it'll be for you to judge when they are able to speak publicly.
12:47pm
12:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13
ShearerShearer says
Just how much notice was given to STFC by AB of his desire to sell and be out of STFC by the end of Jan?
If this was known well in advance of the end of Jan (i.e. when SWP was appointed) why was it left until the last minute (i.e. with respect to the transfer window) get things moving? This has left STFC in a depeleted state player-wise with no options until the deal is done.
To be honest I don't know when exactly the notice was served. I was first made aware of the discussions that the club would be put into administration unless it was sold the week of the Bournemouth away game, but I have not been able to establish when it was first talked about. Sorry I can't be much more help there.
12:46pm
12:17pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Wembley69 says
Despite uncertainty we reached 3rd place, beating Tranmere away could get us into the automatic places depending on other results, so reasons to be cheerful? I wonder what the new owners would feel / do if we were promoted this time?
I think the players haveto be given huge credit for the way they have conducted themselves through all this. Utterly professional, got on with the job and the result was a continued promotion push.
12:45pm
12:06pm Fri 15 Feb 13
STFCBourne98 says
Is there any news on the situation of ground redevelopment?
Quite simply, not yet no.
12:45pm
12:04pm Fri 15 Feb 13
billbst says
Trying to restore some self respect now.
How much involvement has Phil Spencer had in bringing this consortium to the club?
I don't believe he was involved in the negotiations with this consortium.
12:44pm
11:59am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW says
I would like to know what type of investment can we expect with the new owners?
Will there be plays to redevelop the ground still?
The kind of investment that protects the club from imminent threats not worth considering. That's a good kind of investment. Regarding property development, that's an issue I have not got answers for just yet. Hopefully we'll hear more soon.
12:43pm
@sammorshead_SA - If Black is to keep 15% despite having got fed up/selling, should we assume he wants his investment back? #stfcadver
— @talkinghawes 15 February 2013
12:43pm
@SamMorshead_SA You've seen us play more than most this season, can this threadbare squad get us up if no reinforcements arrive? #STFCadver
— @MarnMoonraker 15 February 2013
12:42pm
11:18am Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red says
How much do you estimate the Championship being worth compared to L1?
I have been told it is worth around £4million more on face value per year. However, with relevant cost increases that is likely to be closer to £1million to £1.5million. Still, not to be scoffed at.
12:40pm
11:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
swindon69 says
With reference to the Terry Brady fiasco, do the oncoming board know that the ground cannot be sold for redevelopment other than for a sporting facility?
I am sure they will be well aware of the covenant on the ground, the discussions with the council, the ownership and freeholding of the land and the fact the lease is up for renewal next month.
12:39pm
11:16am Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red says
Do the burgers at STFC contain horse?
It seems just about everything does nowadays! Of course I am no FSA investigator so I couldn't tell you.
12:39pm
@SamMorshead_SA what do you think about the price of a cadburys Freddos going up to £50p? #STFCadver
— @blinkpip 15 February 2013
12:38pm
@SamMorshead_SA ... or will he retain a small percentage? Will any of the other current shareholders also retain an interest? 2/2 #stfcadver
— @stfcrule 15 February 2013
12:37pm
@SamMorshead_SA Do we know if the new consortium will/have purchased all of Andrew Blacks shareholding ? 1/2 #stfcadver
— @stfcrule 15 February 2013
12:37pm
11:11am Fri 15 Feb 13
chalkswindon says
Have the old/new/inbetween board turned down a recent request from a Championship team to speak to PDC ?
It's my understanding that no official approach has been made to Swindon Town to speak to Paolo Di Canio at any point during his tenure at the County Ground.
12:36pm
11:03am Fri 15 Feb 13
Davethered says
Is it true Thierry Henry is a member of the board , and will he be playing in a swindon shirt in the near future .
This is one of the best and most bizarre takeover rumours I've heard. And believe me, I've heard a lot over the course of the past month.
12:35pm
10:57am Fri 15 Feb 13
umpcah says
Will there be an improvement in the quality of half-time cuppas ?
Quite possibly. One matter that Jed McCrory was not constrained on by the terms of the NDA was the half-time cup of tea he had at the County Ground on Saturday.
12:35pm
10:54am Fri 15 Feb 13
ShearerShearer says
Jaffa Cakes - cake or biscuit?
Cake. No argument on that.
12:35pm
10:52am Fri 15 Feb 13
tj@ramsbury says
Is Paolo staying ?
Has Paolo had his Swindon Town tattoo done ?
I don't believe he had had his tattoo of the Town crest done, I could be wrong of course.
12:34pm
@SamMorshead_SA Why was Jeds consortium preferred to the others said to be interested. Was it simply they could do deal quickest? #STFCadver
— @MarnMoonraker 15 February 2013
12:33pm
10:38am Fri 15 Feb 13
mallorca says
Is this takeover actually going to happen
Why no response from the FL???
What finacial input will tis new Board put into STFC
Is Pdc staying or going?
Is the club now debt fee???after SWP´s comment it appears not yet we were told the club woulld start with new Board and clean sheet-
All the parties involved have been required to keep quiet until the process is complete. Hopefully that will be very soon.
Some debt, the secured debt, remains with the incoming owners. Until Di Canio actually comments on his future we will remain in the dark.
The financial input of the incoming investors is enough to keep the club afloat in the short term and sustain it in the medium term. For me, that's the most important factor.
12:30pm
10:35am Fri 15 Feb 13
35 year fan says
given that the club is thought to be losing around £50k per week, why do people seem to think that the first thing the new owners will do is add to that deficit by signing three new players?
I am guessing what you are referring to is the £250,000 a month reported wage bill at the club, which is not necessarily a running loss.
Football clubs are difficult financial models to come to terms with but I am under the impression that there will be the flexibility for Town to use the emergency loan market as and when the takeover is complete.
12:28pm
@SamMorshead_SA Given how close we were, and maybe still are, to Championship football, Mr Blacks hurry to sell now seems odd? #STFCadver
— @MarnMoonraker 15 February 2013
12:26pm
10:27am Fri 15 Feb 13
RobinsTalk says
Was another consortium made up of PDC's friends/contacts also in the running to take over the club?
Is there any indication yet as to whether Nick Watkins will be kept on as CE by the new owners?
In the likely event that you are not yet in a position to answer either of those, what do you prefer plain or milk chocolate? (it's not an offer, just a twist on the cheese question)
I'm not aware of any consortium involving Di Canio's friends or contacts being involved in discussions at any stage.
I understand Phil Spencer, the Italian's agent, did look into the possibility of putting a group of investors together but abandoned that idea pretty quickly.
12:25pm
@SamMorshead_SA Sir William Patey mentioned some of the new members have connections to Swindon, do you know in what way? #STFCadver
— @steve23webber 15 February 2013
12:25pm
@SamMorshead_SA Sam, do you know if Nick Watkins will stay on as CEO? #stfcadver
— @simontapscott 15 February 2013
12:23pm
10:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
umpcah says
What a pity that this Q &A is not taking place next Friday after all the dust has settled !
There'll be one as well next week.
12:23pm
10:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth says
I got a question.
What is the point of this question and answer session??
Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering.
Tin Pot Paper!!!!
Believe me, all the questions I have been asked today have already been asked to the relevant people. Many questions have not been answered because of the NDA hanging over the respective parties.
As there has been little by way of dialogue, for good reason, between the club and fans we at the Advertiser thought this would be something of a stop-gap until it is possible for there to be official comment.
It's a chance for fans and readers to discuss what's going on and what comes next. Harmless and hopefully slightly informative fun.
12:21pm
10:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
billbst says
Will there be an immediate restructuring of the club to reduce the cost base? Who owns (is owed) the outstanding debt in the club? Will any of the directors be full time with the club and if so in what roles?
I understand money is being put in to take the club through this season and into the next. I would imagine that the incoming owners will want to trim some of the wastage off the club, it remains to be seen how they do that exactly.
The debt within the club is the secured debt which is tied against the ground. It is our understanding that the debt in the holding company of around £9million, owed to Andrew Black, Sir Martyn Arbib, Andrew Fitton and Jeremy Wray, will be removed.
Until the board is named we can only speculate on their actual roles. Steve Murrall has a background in company structure and operations, Gary Hooper is an experienced commercial manager, Martin King is good with communications. We'll have to wait and see.
12:18pm
10:13am Fri 15 Feb 13
UsernameSTFC says
Why decide to come here?
My usual question... What's there favourite cheese?
Why did they fail taking over Luton?
My understanding is they are football fans who saw a club in a very difficult situation and were willing to help out. They are better placed to answer that.
Regards cheese, Jed McCrory has said he is an Irish Cheddar fan on Twitter.
I don't know the ins and outs of their involvement with Luton so it would be unfair for me to speculate on that.
12:16pm
9:55am Fri 15 Feb 13
Wonder Strike says
If we are to be self sustaining do we know if the new consortium plan overhaul our youth system with an academy.
The youth system at Swindon Town was given a facelift in the summer. More full-time members of staff and longer coaching hours were introduced to comply with Elite Player Performance Plan standards.
Town now boast a category three academy. I don't know whether or not there is an intention to change it but after investing good money in it last year I don't see the need to do so again so soon.
12:13pm
9:48am Fri 15 Feb 13
Bryant25 says
Is Messi coming to Swindon? Loan maybe?
Wouldn't that be wonderful.
12:12pm
9:43am Fri 15 Feb 13
the wizard says
Sam, from your understanding of affairs, should the deal not be ratified for what ever reason, how close are we to either selling players or going into admin ?
Sorry to be down beat, but I'd like to be prepared for the worse should it happen.
Obviously this is a little too close to scaremongering for comfort, but to answer your question the club was very close to a firesale of players.
Remember that fax that was sent out to clubs across the Football League offering Town's entire squad up for sale? That was a reality had this takeover not been agreed back at the end of January.
Should it collapse now, and I'd hasten to add that there is little reason to suggest it will, it would be a very difficult time for the club.
12:10pm
@SamMorshead_SA From your discussions do you think the new owners plan to return to a more frugal, Fitton style, financial model? #STFCadver
— @MarnMoonraker 15 February 2013
12:08pm
9:32am Fri 15 Feb 13
Since 1950 says
But who will be available to take the questions? The club have said there can be no comment until Monday at the earliest. Even that will depend if theFL get off their backsides and rubber stamp the deal.
This will only fuel speculation and in my view ill timed question time.
To clarify, the club have not made any comment regarding as and when the sale of Town will be discussed in public.
12:07pm
9:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
TheDukeOfBanbury says
What will the new Board bring to STFC ?
What are their plans and when are they likely to be shared with the Supporters ?
The new owners will bring security and stability to a club which could have gone in the opposite direction.
They will of course be best able to express what they want to achieve in their own words, but my understanding is that they are football fans who did not want to see a club struggle and at worst collapse.
They have experience in property, company structure and football.
12:05pm
9:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
SAPFanSTFC says
Given that there is a non-disclosure agreement in place for the potential new board what have you managed to find out about their intentions and levels of funding available?
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I came home extremely down after the Hartlepool game as 3 of the names were identified but none of them would seem to have any financial liquidity of the ilk required to support a Championship team:
- Does the 4th name released this week make a difference? i.e. have any of them got significant funds available
- Is Black counted as the 5th member?
- Was the £3 million input of funding from the new board a rumour or a fact?
From the conversations I have had I get the impression the incoming board are football people with the game at heart.
Realistically, we have to realise that if it was not for this consortium then the club was under real threat of serious financial problems.
I understand the new owners will put in the money to see the club through this season and into the next, and that new investment will continuously be sought.
12:02pm
9:28am Fri 15 Feb 13
super red says
On one of the recent articles we had a photo of Jed and another at the Hartlepool game.
Is the other person:
A) a member of the consortium.
B) a member of the public watching Stfc.
C) Jeds....minder
Cheers
None of the above. Well, obviously he is a member of the public. We don't have an identity for him, but I've been told he's not part of consortium.
12:01pm
9:20am Fri 15 Feb 13
Stilloyal says
If the takeover is completed / ratified today or Monday will there be loan players coming in ahead of the Tranny game ?
I think it is unlikely there will be any new players in before the game against Tranmere. I understand Marlon Pack will once again turn out for Cheltenham this weekend.
12:00pm
Good afternoon ladies and gents, welcome to the Adver's live webchat.
I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say about the situation at the County Ground, and I'll answer as many questions as I can.
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super red
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9:28am Fri 15 Feb 13
Is the other person:
A) a member of the consortium.
B) a member of the public watching Stfc.
C) Jeds....minder
Cheers
SAPFanSTFC
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9:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
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I came home extremely down after the Hartlepool game as 3 of the names were identified but none of them would seem to have any financial liquidity of the ilk required to support a Championship team:
- Does the 4th name released this week make a difference? i.e. have any of them got significant funds available
- Is Black counted as the 5th member?
- Was the £3 million input of funding from the new board a rumour or a fact?
TheDukeOfBanbury
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9:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
What are their plans and when are they likely to be shared with the Supporters ?
Since 1950
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9:32am Fri 15 Feb 13
This will only fuel speculation and in my view ill timed question time.
the don69
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9:40am Fri 15 Feb 13
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Red Savage
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9:42am Fri 15 Feb 13
What are the new plans for the club and what are the key points from the 3 year financial model? Are we still going to see some investment this season (i.e. loan signings), to continue our push to the Championship? If so, how to you plan to make this club sustainable in the Championship - will there be further investment if we go up?
Paolo has done amazing things with this club and I hope the new consortium appreciate that keeping him should be a major board priority for the club and the fans. He brings passion and desire to our football, something I've not seen at STFC for a long time. It appears that the 2 key things that are needed to keep him are: more transparency and communication with him from the board; and being able to provide some cash for more players. Would these items be part of your plans?
Why was Matt Richie sold far below his true value when we had an imminent deal to sell the club?
Are there new stadium plans?
Sorry - too many questions!
the wizard
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9:43am Fri 15 Feb 13
Sorry to be down beat, but I'd like to be prepared for the worse should it happen.
Another view
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9:46am Fri 15 Feb 13
It would be good to have a least a basic outline of how far the new board will fund the club on the playing side, and on the stadium development or move.
After all the false dawns I would think most of us would be content with the 3 loan targets coming in, and some improvement of the County Ground while they investigate the long term viability of a Reading type move just off the M4.
Bryant25
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9:48am Fri 15 Feb 13
Wonder Strike
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9:55am Fri 15 Feb 13
UsernameSTFC
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10:13am Fri 15 Feb 13
My usual question... What's there favourite cheese?
Why did they fail taking over Luton?
billbst
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10:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth
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10:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
What is the point of this question and answer session??
Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering.
Tin Pot Paper!!!!
who am i
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10:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
RobinsTalk
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10:27am Fri 15 Feb 13
Is there any indication yet as to whether Nick Watkins will be kept on as CE by the new owners?
In the likely event that you are not yet in a position to answer either of those, what do you prefer plain or milk chocolate? (it's not an offer, just a twist on the cheese question)
umpcah
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10:29am Fri 15 Feb 13
35 year fan
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10:35am Fri 15 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford
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10:36am Fri 15 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:Haha, nice one Don but true all the same! I actually agree with 1950 that its probably not the right time for a question time, i'm sure Sam would like some of the answers to questions he is likely to get ask,however i'm also sure he will do his best to answer what he can,good luck Sam,i just cant see how you can answer some of these that`s all.
Poor ol Sam won't be able to answer the question's we have chaps!what we want is Jed and his gang up before the bench!ready for our interrogation!LOL!!!
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mallorca
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10:38am Fri 15 Feb 13
Why no response from the FL???
What finacial input will tis new Board put into STFC
Is Pdc staying or going?
Is the club now debt fee???after SWP´s comment it appears not yet we were told the club woulld start with new Board and clean sheet-
who am i
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10:52am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth wrote:If its such a Tin pot paper why keep coming on here? Tin pot poster if u ask me.
I got a question. What is the point of this question and answer session?? Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering. Tin Pot Paper!!!!
tj@ramsbury
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10:52am Fri 15 Feb 13
Has Paolo had his Swindon Town tattoo done ?
ShearerShearer
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10:54am Fri 15 Feb 13
umpcah
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10:57am Fri 15 Feb 13
Davethered
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11:03am Fri 15 Feb 13
chalkswindon
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11:11am Fri 15 Feb 13
Exmouth_red69
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11:14am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth wrote:Don't read it and do one then. simples.
I got a question.
What is the point of this question and answer session??
Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering.
Tin Pot Paper!!!!
Stratton Red
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11:16am Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red
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11:18am Fri 15 Feb 13
swindon69
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11:20am Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:I expect the answer will be "Neigh!"
Do the burgers at STFC contain horse?
swindon69
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11:22am Fri 15 Feb 13
jevs
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11:25am Fri 15 Feb 13
ShearerShearer wrote:They're cakes & it took a court case to decide it. Biscuits go soft when they're off & cakes go hard.
Jaffa Cakes - cake or biscuit?
That I suspect will be one of few definitive answers to come out of this
mis-named Q&A session.
Lambourn Red
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11:27am Fri 15 Feb 13
35 year fan wrote:I would find it hard to believe that the club is losing that amount per week that would equate to a 2.5 million deficit per annum. The accounts show a loss of approx 1.2 million without any player sales. What you have to remember is that the squad has been trimmed right down now to the point where we are struggling to field a bench in recent games, so I would be surprised if our out goings are stripping are revenue by 50k per week.
given that the club is thought to be losing around £50k per week, why do people seem to think that the first thing the new owners will do is add to that deficit by signing three new players?
There would have been a budget at the beginning of the season for the squad and the fact that the likes of Ritchie, Benson, Cox etc have left would have freed up enough to bring in new players.
ShearerShearer
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11:40am Fri 15 Feb 13
jevs wrote:So why do some shops still stock them in the biscuit aisle ;-) ?
ShearerShearer wrote: Jaffa Cakes - cake or biscuit?They're cakes & it took a court case to decide it. Biscuits go soft when they're off & cakes go hard. That I suspect will be one of few definitive answers to come out of this mis-named Q&A session.
billbst
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11:58am Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC MARLOW
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11:59am Fri 15 Feb 13
Will there be plays to redevelop the ground still?
billbst
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12:04pm Fri 15 Feb 13
How much involvement has Phil Spencer had in bringing this consortium to the club?
STFCBourne98
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12:06pm Fri 15 Feb 13
umpcah
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12:13pm Fri 15 Feb 13
jevs wrote:Who cares ? It`s the tea that`s important !
ShearerShearer wrote:They're cakes & it took a court case to decide it. Biscuits go soft when they're off & cakes go hard.
Jaffa Cakes - cake or biscuit?
That I suspect will be one of few definitive answers to come out of this
mis-named Q&A session.
Wembley69
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12:17pm Fri 15 Feb 13
ShearerShearer
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12:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13
If this was known well in advance of the end of Jan (i.e. when SWP was appointed) why was it left until the last minute (i.e. with respect to the transfer window) get things moving? This has left STFC in a depeleted state player-wise with no options until the deal is done.
pug ugly
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12:21pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Sure, they'll say the right things to placate fans but I can see our playing assets being sold one by one, replaced on the cheap, PdC being replaced by some non-entity of a manager and when the heat is really on they will disappear with pockets full of wonga, courtesy of STFC.
What's your take?
The Jockster
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12:22pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:They are not known for containing any recognisable form of meat least of all beef!
How much do you estimate the Championship being worth compared to L1?
The Jockster
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12:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13
stfclondon
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12:29pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Do you think Swindon can be successful while staying within the financial fair play rules, and is fan ownership a realistic prospect?
Super Mario TV
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12:33pm Fri 15 Feb 13
stfclondon
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12:34pm Fri 15 Feb 13
jimbog
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12:36pm Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth
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12:38pm Fri 15 Feb 13
who am i wrote:Tell me where I can get any news on STFC and wiould happly not read this.
STFC Higworth wrote: I got a question. What is the point of this question and answer session?? Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering. Tin Pot Paper!!!!If its such a Tin pot paper why keep coming on here? Tin pot poster if u ask me.
You may be happy with the second rate stories that are normally reported on BBC radio Wiltshire first but I am more than happy for this local rag to be missed out from my viewing.
Yet again someone does not agree with what they agree with now I am a second rate poster!!!! You are a second rate supporter if you do not agree with me. There Tit for tat!!!
sadgit
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12:40pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Red Rascal
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12:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Red Rascal
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12:44pm Fri 15 Feb 13
pug ugly wrote:I'm not sure anyone apart from Razor and maybe Diamond Mike has departed Swindon Town with pockets full of wonga
Being a cynical old git, I can't shake the feeling that the prospective owners are nothing but asset strippers. Sure, they'll say the right things to placate fans but I can see our playing assets being sold one by one, replaced on the cheap, PdC being replaced by some non-entity of a manager and when the heat is really on they will disappear with pockets full of wonga, courtesy of STFC. What's your take?
grove red
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1:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13
billbst
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1:02pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Davidsyrett
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1:13pm Fri 15 Feb 13
What I take from this is:
A) Without the new board coming in and taking over quickly we would have been in serious trouble. So lets thank them and get behind the club.
B) The new board will invest money this season for loans.
C) Having spoken to them over a week ago PdC is still here, so we have to assume he will stay.
I think the train is back on the tracks!!
Super Mario TV
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1:19pm Fri 15 Feb 13
And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
Davidsyrett
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1:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:Total rubbish!
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend.
And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
ChrisWantageRed
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1:27pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:It merely stopped at the station to take on new passengers!! :)
Always interesting these Q&A's. What I take from this is: A) Without the new board coming in and taking over quickly we would have been in serious trouble. So lets thank them and get behind the club. B) The new board will invest money this season for loans. C) Having spoken to them over a week ago PdC is still here, so we have to assume he will stay. I think the train is back on the tracks!!
Super Mario TV
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1:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Davidsyrett wrote:Not good enough to say "Total rubbish!" and a bit immature, explain why you disagree.
Super Mario TV wrote:Total rubbish!
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend.
And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
umpcah
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1:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13
ChrisWantageRed wrote:To Oxford ?
Davidsyrett wrote:It merely stopped at the station to take on new passengers!! :)
Always interesting these Q&A's. What I take from this is: A) Without the new board coming in and taking over quickly we would have been in serious trouble. So lets thank them and get behind the club. B) The new board will invest money this season for loans. C) Having spoken to them over a week ago PdC is still here, so we have to assume he will stay. I think the train is back on the tracks!!
the don69
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1:31pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Steve. Brentford wrote:Sam did his best Steve!but like I said the real fit and proper panel(us the fans)want to question Jed and his boys,to hear it from the horses mouth(no pun intended)but as David Syrett said above,we have to thank them for the speed of doing this deal,because without it,we were deep in the Brown stuff!!!!!!!!!!!
the don69 wrote:Haha, nice one Don but true all the same! I actually agree with 1950 that its probably not the right time for a question time, i'm sure Sam would like some of the answers to questions he is likely to get ask,however i'm also sure he will do his best to answer what he can,good luck Sam,i just cant see how you can answer some of these that`s all.
Poor ol Sam won't be able to answer the question's we have chaps!what we want is Jed and his gang up before the bench!ready for our interrogation!LOL!!!
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stfclondon
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1:46pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:1. Just because no name has leaked out doesn't mean there's not someone waiting in the wings. Sam has said the new board will be looking for additional investment, so they may already have someone in mind.
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend. And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
2. How do you know the new board doesn't have the financial muscle required? Is their personal wealth in the public domain?
3. Who said anything about massive cost cutting measures? You;re scaremongering.
4. How much of the Ritchie money was paid up front? Was it enough to fund the club until the end of the season?
5. Administration means player sales and job losses, not just "short term pain". What penalties would the Football Lague impose on us for entering administration a third time? It must be avoided if at all possible.
6. You have absolutely no way of knowing that the owners plan to ship players out and slash rather than spend. More scaremongering.
RamsburyRed
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1:51pm Fri 15 Feb 13
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That will surely have a big influence on income and expenditure, so there must be a plan A and B.
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Pleased to see Sam is realistic about possible increase in income if we make the Championship - £4m sounds about right - but what we don't know is what is built into players' contracts for promotion bonuses and wages in a higher league. The only way to avoid those cutting in will be to sell!
Davidsyrett
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1:55pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:Ok.
Davidsyrett wrote:Not good enough to say "Total rubbish!" and a bit immature, explain why you disagree.
Super Mario TV wrote:Total rubbish!
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend.
And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
Why would administration help us?
Having already been in it twice we could expect a 20 maybe 30 point deduction. We would have also of had to sell our best players at cut prices to raise quick money.
The money we got for Ritchie is less 20% Pompey sell on fee, therefore the money raised on that sale would have tied us over for about a month or so at the most.
We yet to know what money is going to be put into the club but, but it sounds as if loans players will be available.
AS for AF, I'm not sure he has any powers to talk to the administrators and do a deal.
I can assure you that we need administration as much as a hole in the head. This is a far better deal
billbst
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2:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13
the wizard
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2:06pm Fri 15 Feb 13
I understand money is being put in to take the club through this season and into the next. I would imagine that the incoming owners will want to trim some of the wastage off the club, it remains to be seen how they do that exactly.
The debt within the club is the secured debt which is tied against the ground. It is our understanding that the debt in the holding company of around £9million, owed to Andrew Black, Sir Martyn Arbib, Andrew Fitton and Jeremy Wray, will be removed.
So money to "run the club" is here until say towards the end of the year, but in fairness not enough for a big team rebuild. My take on that is OK as the club is secure but I can see further investors now being seriously sought after.
With reference to the debt I thought the figures being banded about not so many weeks ago were much higher, so is there still a debt in some form or another ?
Despite the "knockers" I think Sam has made a pretty honest effort here, obviously he cannot say his feelings but has remained as factual as possible and I thank him for that. I still think tomorrow is a day wasted up to a point as the club could have done something to draw people in to the ground, perhaps a charity bash or what ever.
All we can do now is wish Jed good luck and stand behind those who are willing to throw money into this bottomless pit.
Swindon1984
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2:18pm Fri 15 Feb 13
STFC Higworth wrote:Would've thought it was obvious, it's an opportunity to engage with the fans directly and try to address any concerns they've got. Many come on here and read the articles, and come away with questions which is where all the speculation in the comments comes about. As Mr Morshead is a lot more informed than most of us as to what goes on at STFC (even though some on here reckon overheard conversations in the legends makes them THE authority on all things Swindon...) he can attempt to answer any queries we have. I feel it's a worthwhile exercise, if you don't you're free to not read and not comment.
I got a question. What is the point of this question and answer session?? Adver instead of getting people to ask questions do your job and ask the people in the know the questions that need answering. Tin Pot Paper!!!!
You're also free not to buy the adver if you disapprove - if you don't buy it anyway, you really are getting all this for free and aren't in a position to criticise. Think some of these throwaway comments are pretty insulting, running down what someone does for a living and insulting the business they work for. If you spent a bit more time thinking before typing maybe your username would've read "Highworth" and not "Higworth"! Give the adver a break is all I'm saying.
Super Mario TV
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2:31pm Fri 15 Feb 13
stfclondon wrote:I believe it's more a matter of fact that the incoming board don't have any real money and they plan to cut costs, it's even confirmed in a few of the answers given to the questions asked above.
Super Mario TV wrote:1. Just because no name has leaked out doesn't mean there's not someone waiting in the wings. Sam has said the new board will be looking for additional investment, so they may already have someone in mind.
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend. And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
2. How do you know the new board doesn't have the financial muscle required? Is their personal wealth in the public domain?
3. Who said anything about massive cost cutting measures? You;re scaremongering.
4. How much of the Ritchie money was paid up front? Was it enough to fund the club until the end of the season?
5. Administration means player sales and job losses, not just "short term pain". What penalties would the Football Lague impose on us for entering administration a third time? It must be avoided if at all possible.
6. You have absolutely no way of knowing that the owners plan to ship players out and slash rather than spend. More scaremongering.
I know Jed reads all these these forums so Jed please prove me wrong and tell us the name of your millionaire Black style investor and make me look a fool......
What is the point in a consortium buying or in this case being given a football club when they don't have the funds to invest and to move it forward, there plan is to save the club by cost cutting and undoing Wray’s and PDC'S progress, and that is one long slow road to nowhere, and in the long term we will a lot worse off then the 10 points we would lost in administration (It's only 10 points for a third administration, like Darlington got last year)
It's scaremongering to tell the tale that the club will die if this takeover does not go ahead, as I'm in no doubt better offers and options would become available down the line.
When PDC is gone this time next season and the club is in reserve gear, due to cost cutting and lack of funds, we will pull this thread back up, and I will ask you all if you wish you had asked a few more questions before hand clapping and nodding.
billbst
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3:01pm Fri 15 Feb 13
umpcah
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4:12pm Fri 15 Feb 13
billbst wrote:According to Sam another Q & A session is expected next week. Hopefully a few current unanswered questions will be given answers. Come on you Reds !
Obviously Sam can only reflect what he knows and judges but I'm with Dave syrett. The 3 potential loanees are still in circulation so hopefully a Monday approval will see us straight on with the promotion chase with Paolo committed to getting us up. Many questions afterwards but hopeful.
Wilesy
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4:16pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Money being put into the club next season too also sounds OK, or is that just wages or wages + transfer fees?
So whilst people are criticising they are actually talking about investing £2-3m, over say 9 months or so with the Richie £0.5m in there too.
I don't think that is significantly more or less than Black was putting in?
Detail will come out next week, so I'm sure the short, medium and long term plans will be revealed. Is it a 'Save Swindon from Admin' purchase or are they in it for the long term. Either way we should be grateful.
Still fascinated why Black has dropped us like a stone writing off millions in the process, and why does he want to keep 15% is that what he would have probably got if we'd gone into admin?
davel4848
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4:31pm Fri 15 Feb 13
NORTH STAND
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4:40pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Anyway here's a quick summary:
1. A handful of poor little rich kids bought a football club for a gas
2. Used to getting their own way and convincingly advised by willing acolytes and 'expert' consultants they soon established that they could bully their way to planning permission for a property development that would make them even more money
3. The world moved on, the economy collapsed, they (slowly) realised that office, hotel and leisure space in central Swindon was not quite as attractive a proposition as the graphs had suggested
4. The poor little rich kids fell out ad one by one wandered off to play with their other toys
5. The biggest little rich kid of all had nobody left to play with so when they said nasty things he decided to teach them a lesson. To show them how he didn't care he took a big stick and spoiled everybody's favourite toy
6. The season ticket holders who had paid an extra hundred pounds a year on the back of the big boys promises were sha* on from a great height BUT HEY F*CK THEM
7. Luckily 95% of them were too thick to realise
8. The end
davel4848
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4:48pm Fri 15 Feb 13
ost of the rubbish you are pontificating(look up the meaning in a dictionary) about above is factually inaccurate.
I hear Bournemouth or Oxford are beckoning, so you'd better set off now, before it gets too dark.
Blazing Riff
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4:49pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:You can ask as many questions as you like but it won't make any difference to the outcome. The 'football league' have been asking questions and hopefully getting the right answers. We have no option other than to put our trust in them no matter what you might think of them! I believe this new board was the best option available even if it doesn't suit your ideal. There's been too much scaremongering by too many posters with little or no knowledge on this site for the last two weeks. Calm down and be thankful we still have a club, in a good position in the league, with a reasonable chance of getting promoted. It could be so much worse!
stfclondon wrote:I believe it's more a matter of fact that the incoming board don't have any real money and they plan to cut costs, it's even confirmed in a few of the answers given to the questions asked above.
Super Mario TV wrote:1. Just because no name has leaked out doesn't mean there's not someone waiting in the wings. Sam has said the new board will be looking for additional investment, so they may already have someone in mind.
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend. And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
2. How do you know the new board doesn't have the financial muscle required? Is their personal wealth in the public domain?
3. Who said anything about massive cost cutting measures? You;re scaremongering.
4. How much of the Ritchie money was paid up front? Was it enough to fund the club until the end of the season?
5. Administration means player sales and job losses, not just "short term pain". What penalties would the Football Lague impose on us for entering administration a third time? It must be avoided if at all possible.
6. You have absolutely no way of knowing that the owners plan to ship players out and slash rather than spend. More scaremongering.
I know Jed reads all these these forums so Jed please prove me wrong and tell us the name of your millionaire Black style investor and make me look a fool......
What is the point in a consortium buying or in this case being given a football club when they don't have the funds to invest and to move it forward, there plan is to save the club by cost cutting and undoing Wray’s and PDC'S progress, and that is one long slow road to nowhere, and in the long term we will a lot worse off then the 10 points we would lost in administration (It's only 10 points for a third administration, like Darlington got last year)
It's scaremongering to tell the tale that the club will die if this takeover does not go ahead, as I'm in no doubt better offers and options would become available down the line.
When PDC is gone this time next season and the club is in reserve gear, due to cost cutting and lack of funds, we will pull this thread back up, and I will ask you all if you wish you had asked a few more questions before hand clapping and nodding.
forzaswindon12
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5:44pm Fri 15 Feb 13
2.why cant luke rooney be made available for selection until we can get some loans in. we're down to the bare bones and he could still be effective for as a sub.
3.when is miles storey & bostock back from injury?
forzaswindon12
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5:51pm Fri 15 Feb 13
if pack sods off to bournemouth after the ritchie sale that will be the final indignity.
tally38
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5:59pm Fri 15 Feb 13
forzaswindon12 wrote:ARE YOU A SWINDON SUPPORTER?
the questions I wanted to ask were, 1.who were the other two or three foreign consortiums and which countries/areas were they from.
2.why cant luke rooney be made available for selection until we can get some loans in. we're down to the bare bones and he could still be effective for as a sub.
3.when is miles storey & bostock back from injury?
WHY ARE YOU ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS, MILES STOREY CAME ON AS SUB LAST WEEK AND BOSTOCK LEFT THE CLUB 2 MONTHS AGO
mancrobin
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6:02pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:Excellent question Stratton. I could see it made him jump.
Do the burgers at STFC contain horse?
35 year fan
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6:04pm Fri 15 Feb 13
NORTH STAND wrote:but its not quite the end is it?
Good read this - man who has no idea what is happening answers questions from people who don't understand the subject... la plus ca change!
Anyway here's a quick summary:
1. A handful of poor little rich kids bought a football club for a gas
2. Used to getting their own way and convincingly advised by willing acolytes and 'expert' consultants they soon established that they could bully their way to planning permission for a property development that would make them even more money
3. The world moved on, the economy collapsed, they (slowly) realised that office, hotel and leisure space in central Swindon was not quite as attractive a proposition as the graphs had suggested
4. The poor little rich kids fell out ad one by one wandered off to play with their other toys
5. The biggest little rich kid of all had nobody left to play with so when they said nasty things he decided to teach them a lesson. To show them how he didn't care he took a big stick and spoiled everybody's favourite toy
6. The season ticket holders who had paid an extra hundred pounds a year on the back of the big boys promises were sha* on from a great height BUT HEY F*CK THEM
7. Luckily 95% of them were too thick to realise
8. The end
now a bunch of luton people arrive on the scene who were refused permission to buy their own club. who knows what angles they see for their own pockets here? they dont seem like the kind of guys to be putting in more than they plan to take out.
dreamofacleansheet2
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6:15pm Fri 15 Feb 13
NORTH STAND
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6:20pm Fri 15 Feb 13
davel4848 wrote:I refer the honorable gentleman to the answer at 7 above
NORTH STAND..............m
ost of the rubbish you are pontificating(look up the meaning in a dictionary) about above is factually inaccurate.
I hear Bournemouth or Oxford are beckoning, so you'd better set off now, before it gets too dark.
supersaver
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6:23pm Fri 15 Feb 13
I come back and find The Mighty Reds are in 4th place, 3pts behind the leaders with a game in hand.
Im mad, mad, help me im going mad, no i am mad help me.
NORTH STAND
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6:29pm Fri 15 Feb 13
tifosi
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6:43pm Fri 15 Feb 13
mancrobin wrote:Sadly the burgers are being made available to players only - the squad is a bit depleted so we have to play hoofball.
Stratton Red wrote:Excellent question Stratton. I could see it made him jump.
Do the burgers at STFC contain horse?
davel4848
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7:06pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Di kanny oh
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7:11pm Fri 15 Feb 13
ciclosporindorset
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7:22pm Fri 15 Feb 13
supersaver wrote:Further quote from "Ciclos Encyclopaedia of STFC Related Medical Conditions"
been away for 18 months due to depression brought on by Wilson/Hart, cut of from all media etc.
I come back and find The Mighty Reds are in 4th place, 3pts behind the leaders with a game in hand.
Im mad, mad, help me im going mad, no i am mad help me.
Madness: Condition brought about by relentless unobtainable expectations. Particularly associated with peer group expectations of one day finding the rainbow ends with a pot of money - only to find its a pot of ****!
Di kanny oh
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7:34pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Di kanny oh
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7:46pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Di kanny oh wrote:Even better for Town Akpro is suspended and misses tonight and Tuesday's games. Come on Shrews do a number on them please.
Tranmere on the box tonight against Shrewsbury bet Paolo will be watching. Good insight into Tuesday nights game.
Di kanny oh
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7:52pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Di kanny oh wrote:Palmer for Tranmere just been sent off yesssssssss.
Di kanny oh wrote:Even better for Town Akpro is suspended and misses tonight and Tuesday's games. Come on Shrews do a number on them please.
Tranmere on the box tonight against Shrewsbury bet Paolo will be watching. Good insight into Tuesday nights game.
Chish and Fips
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7:52pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Chish and Fips
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7:54pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Di kanny oh
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7:58pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Chish and Fips wrote:Tranmere 1-0 down it gets better their Keeper has made a howler.
Ronnie Moore spitting feathers right now on touch line ...
Chish and Fips
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8:08pm Fri 15 Feb 13
That early sending off and goal seem to have totally unsettled them . Its all kick and rush at moment..
Haydonender
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8:23pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Anyway.......come on Shrewsbury!
Di kanny oh
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9:12pm Fri 15 Feb 13
sp1dersw3b
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9:13pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Haydonender wrote:Fair point but at least Sam offers some salient and calm replies and not just bluster and ill informed rumours/fears.
No news then.........while I appreciate Sam's interaction with the fans (most of the scraps of news recently have come through him) I do question the sense in holding a Q & A session when the answers to all the questions are 'I don't know' or 'they can't say'
Anyway.......come on Shrewsbury!
0-2!! come on the other STFC
Di kanny oh
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9:40pm Fri 15 Feb 13
southside7
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9:41pm Fri 15 Feb 13
NORTH STAND wrote:Doesn't buying success like Reading have make the whole thing a sham? I can't give it up because it's in my blood, but sometimes I wish I could, just due to the farce of the 'buy to win' success that top flight football has become.
35 year old fan I hope you're right and its not the end... the new board might prove more honourable but they sure don't have the sort of financial clout most supporters hoped the previous lot would be pouring in.,,, Footballing success can and will continue to be bought and I still remember Fulham, Reading and Wigan as Div 4 awaydays - spot the common theme in their turnaround to sustainable Premiership set ups! Most of those crying out for sustainability don't seem to accept that for sides where we are it it comes with mediocrity. The time to stabilise is not when you are in the middle or at the bottom. I do fear (though hope not) that we are heading for future local derbies with Rovers and Scum rather than City and Reading...either way I'll be there!
sp1dersw3b
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9:51pm Fri 15 Feb 13
red white
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10:03pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Easy.
super reds
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10:11pm Fri 15 Feb 13
sp1dersw3b wrote:They have a left back crisis which is why Ritchie is playing there I believe, wouldn't swear to it though
Seeing Boremuff have signed Marcus Painter from Brighton until the end of the season perhaps they don't think much of their new left back?
sp1dersw3b
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10:21pm Fri 15 Feb 13
I hope the following is absorbed by those Paolo non-lovers that believe certain issues should remain in-house about training sessions: -
"I've finished training absolutely disgusted. I can't just sit and take that, the fans need to know," he said.
"They pay his wages and what he dished up is the worst effort I've seen in 25 years of professional football."
"Is it because he hasn't been starting? Is that what you do? Down tools and stop trying? The football club deserves more; the fans deserve more."
'Quote about Nikola Zigic - Lee Clark' - Birmingham City FC .
PC has learnt then! - lol
Blazing Riff
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10:21pm Fri 15 Feb 13
super reds wrote:I think you're right.
sp1dersw3b wrote:They have a left back crisis which is why Ritchie is playing there I believe, wouldn't swear to it though
Seeing Boremuff have signed Marcus Painter from Brighton until the end of the season perhaps they don't think much of their new left back?
forzaswindon12
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10:28pm Fri 15 Feb 13
tally38 wrote:FCUK YOU!!
forzaswindon12 wrote:ARE YOU A SWINDON SUPPORTER?
the questions I wanted to ask were, 1.who were the other two or three foreign consortiums and which countries/areas were they from.
2.why cant luke rooney be made available for selection until we can get some loans in. we're down to the bare bones and he could still be effective for as a sub.
3.when is miles storey & bostock back from injury?
WHY ARE YOU ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS, MILES STOREY CAME ON AS SUB LAST WEEK AND BOSTOCK LEFT THE CLUB 2 MONTHS AGO
of course im a swindon fan
Im entitled to ask questions and theres no need to be rude you stupid w@nker
I thought both storey and bostock were injured. thanks clearing that one up
sp1dersw3b
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10:50pm Fri 15 Feb 13
Blazing Riff wrote:Apologies as the lowest form of wit is sarcasm - I believe you are both correct in your replies.
super reds wrote:I think you're right.
sp1dersw3b wrote:They have a left back crisis which is why Ritchie is playing there I believe, wouldn't swear to it though
Seeing Boremuff have signed Marcus Painter from Brighton until the end of the season perhaps they don't think much of their new left back?
Just miss the Ritchie effect for STFC
red white
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12:49am Sat 16 Feb 13
Super Mario TV wrote:Shut up !
stfclondon wrote:I believe it's more a matter of fact that the incoming board don't have any real money and they plan to cut costs, it's even confirmed in a few of the answers given to the questions asked above.
Super Mario TV wrote:1. Just because no name has leaked out doesn't mean there's not someone waiting in the wings. Sam has said the new board will be looking for additional investment, so they may already have someone in mind.
If the consortium had a money man/woman I think it’s fair to say their their name would of leaked out by now, and as the consortium don’t have the financial mussel to keep the club moving forward in it's present format and they plan massive cost cutting measures which will be a mean a huge step backwards in football terms, I believe the club would of been better to use the Richie money to survive until the end of the season, and then if no other buyer came forward go in to administration and let the administer takes their time and find a suitable buyer, this would of caused short term pain rather then being stuck with owners that over time will ship out the current players anyway, and will only have the option to slash rather then spend. And after listening to Andrew Fitton a few weeks ago on the radio I am convinced he would of done a deal with the administer, as it would of been on his terms.
2. How do you know the new board doesn't have the financial muscle required? Is their personal wealth in the public domain?
3. Who said anything about massive cost cutting measures? You;re scaremongering.
4. How much of the Ritchie money was paid up front? Was it enough to fund the club until the end of the season?
5. Administration means player sales and job losses, not just "short term pain". What penalties would the Football Lague impose on us for entering administration a third time? It must be avoided if at all possible.
6. You have absolutely no way of knowing that the owners plan to ship players out and slash rather than spend. More scaremongering.
I know Jed reads all these these forums so Jed please prove me wrong and tell us the name of your millionaire Black style investor and make me look a fool......
What is the point in a consortium buying or in this case being given a football club when they don't have the funds to invest and to move it forward, there plan is to save the club by cost cutting and undoing Wray’s and PDC'S progress, and that is one long slow road to nowhere, and in the long term we will a lot worse off then the 10 points we would lost in administration (It's only 10 points for a third administration, like Darlington got last year)
It's scaremongering to tell the tale that the club will die if this takeover does not go ahead, as I'm in no doubt better offers and options would become available down the line.
When PDC is gone this time next season and the club is in reserve gear, due to cost cutting and lack of funds, we will pull this thread back up, and I will ask you all if you wish you had asked a few more questions before hand clapping and nodding.
Paolo won't leave us.
Well he might hope you go away.
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