Di Canio did not know of Ritchie sale (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)
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SWINDON TOWN: Di Canio did not know of Ritchie sale
10:20am Friday 1st February 2013 in Sport By Sam Morshead
Town boss Paolo Di Canio
MATT Ritchie was sold to Bournemouth behind the back of Swindon Town manager Paolo Di Canio.
In an effort to raise the funds necessary to satisfy the running costs of the club until new owners take charge at the County Ground, the decision was made by the powers-that-be in SN1 to accept a £500,000 bid for the winger from the Cherries on Wednesday.
Di Canio revealed that the first he heard of the move, despite having stated recently that he would only accept “crazy money” for Ritchie, was when the player phoned him at 5.30pm to say he was at Dean Court preparing to finalise the terms of his switch. Three hours later the deal was done.
In a statement released yesterday lunchtime, Town stressed that the sale of the 23-year-old was necessary to ensure the short-term financial well-being of the club. However, that didn’t stop Di Canio from being frustrated by the whole incident.
He said: “I had the news from Matt Ritchie at the moment that he was nearly to sign for Bournemouth, in this manner I received the news. I didn’t know anything before.
“Approximately it was at half past five, it was already there a few hours earlier. He only told me that he was there because someone told me to go there and sign the contract. Since that moment I have tried just to think how to move one step forwards in a positive way and the best way for this squad.
“Obviously it was news for me, nobody mentioned anything for me before I discovered the situation in this manner.
“I thought it was a joke but obviously it happened. I told him just for a second ‘are you joking? Let me see what’s happened’.
“It was clear straight away because he told me how it happened. I couldn’t say or couldn’t do anything. I realised that it was done, I told him good luck but I don’t want to speak any more about what’s happened because I still don’t completely understand what’s happened.
“We will see in the future and we will know exactly why one of the best players of this club was sold for this amount of money. He left for one of the best sides in this league, one of the best sides that will fight to win this league.”
Despite his disappointment, however, Di Canio’s mind switched quickly to the immediate task at hand and a trip to Crawley this weekend.
“Since that moment until this morning at seven o’clock, without closing my eyes, I thought how to play against Crawley, which players would give me the quality in this area, how to best use the individuals I’ve got, how to try to win the game and stay close to the top,” he said.
“If I can’t change things I have to go forward. Now only one thing is clear more than ever - the environment in which I worked for the last six or seven months.
“For this I want to claim what we have done until today - thanks to my players, thanks to the staff, thanks to the fans - is amazing. The result we made, without any support and with many problems in the past, proves what kind of job we have done.”
Comments(81)
jillyh
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10:31am Fri 1 Feb 13
jillyh
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10:31am Fri 1 Feb 13
swindonsquibz
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10:34am Fri 1 Feb 13
wiki27
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10:34am Fri 1 Feb 13
Jibberjab
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10:35am Fri 1 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Must be one of the most ridiculous comments ever posted on here.
It's all well and good, but Paolo doesn't own the club and doesn't have to be asked by the owners.
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.
jillyh
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10:39am Fri 1 Feb 13
Jibberjab wrote:Totally agree -the manager runs the team, gets the points. Points = prizes and MONEY!
madterrier wrote:Must be one of the most ridiculous comments ever posted on here.
It's all well and good, but Paolo doesn't own the club and doesn't have to be asked by the owners.
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.
Also, in this case, we have a name that players want to play for.
Clearly a short memory regarding the sale of GG and relegation.
old town robin
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10:40am Fri 1 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:If anyone should have spoken to Paolo beforehand, it should have been the chairman Patey and I agree with you that normally the manager should have been informed and I would have thought it would have been the manager who informed the player to get down to another club to sign a contract. But for whatever reason it seems paolo was by-passed. desperate behavour in desperate times I'm afraid
It's all well and good, but Paolo doesn't own the club and doesn't have to be asked by the owners.
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.
old town robin
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10:42am Fri 1 Feb 13
Med Red
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10:42am Fri 1 Feb 13
A) find out how long before the FL decide if the take over can go ahead
B) is there a plan B, other than Administration, if the FL don't give the go ahead. Has that ex-diplomat Chairman of ours lined up another bidder, in case this bid goes tits-up??
Don't regurgitate old news, pick up the phone and start investigating.... please!
SAPFanSTFC
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10:43am Fri 1 Feb 13
jillyh wrote:The full interview is on STFCPlayer - It certainly didn't come across as an - 'I am leaving' type of interview but just that he was confused about the events at best.
Please don't let this sound like a farewell speech. If he walks - consider two fans who will not be travelling or spending money on a club who treats their prized asset this way. Don't think it will just be two either!
Black is on his way out and didn't need or want PDC's authority...the inbound can't put the money in just yet.
LeGod
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10:43am Fri 1 Feb 13
Personally i think he will see the season out and leave in the summer as i think to him he has been double crossed by Black and Patey. I really hope i'm wrong but that is my gut feeling unless this new lot have got serious ambitions as they say they have and he couls stay but i think other clubs will come in for Paolo anyway.
wurzelday
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10:51am Fri 1 Feb 13
the don69
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10:59am Fri 1 Feb 13
madterrier
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10:59am Fri 1 Feb 13
Jibberjab wrote:Why is it ridiculous? I'm just suggesting a reason why Paolo wasn't told. Black obviously didn't care, and regarded other financial matters as being more pressing on Wednesday. If he was continuing as owner then I've already said, it would be obvious to tell or even discuss or at least explain to the manager. Patey should have done it, but for Patey, read Black. I would have done it as a courtesy but clearly Black/Patey didn't think the same way. Others have already said that Black maybe wanted to thumb Paolo in the eye at the end, and this was one way he did it.
madterrier wrote:Must be one of the most ridiculous comments ever posted on here.
It's all well and good, but Paolo doesn't own the club and doesn't have to be asked by the owners.
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.
swwindon61uk
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11:01am Fri 1 Feb 13
Psychedelic Syd
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11:05am Fri 1 Feb 13
themoonraker
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11:06am Fri 1 Feb 13
jillyh wrote:so you are going to join the band of 'stay away supporters' because you don't agree with decisions made by the club?
Please don't let this sound like a farewell speech. If he walks - consider two fans who will not be travelling or spending money on a club who treats their prized asset this way. Don't think it will just be two either!
I wonder if you have ever moaned about 'ex -supporters' who won't attend because of things in the past?
You should be supporting the club NOT individuals who will eventually move on when they want to despite our wants.
You and your post are/is quite pathetic, rather akin to a two year old child stamping their feet because they can't have their own way.
You may say and think that you are a true supporter, but your words prove otherwise.
stfc4ever!!
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11:07am Fri 1 Feb 13
This article makes it even more depressing. PDC didnt want Matty to go, we certainly did want him to go and Matty didnt want to leave either!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/21
286981
Dont get me wrong I am grateful to AB for all he's done but like some of said he has just sold our prize assett and fan favourite. Just so disappointing!
mike1990
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11:11am Fri 1 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:Ditto.
Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!
themoonraker
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11:11am Fri 1 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:....and you are an idiot, you should remember without this mans money we would almost certainly be a non league club by now.
Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!
To say good riddance and that you hope he loses money simply beggars belief and shows you are a total prat with the intelligence and understanding of an ameoba.
SAPFanSTFC
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11:12am Fri 1 Feb 13
stfc4ever!! wrote:I'm not sure we can be certain the Matt didn't play a part in speeding the deal up due to the scenario at STFC - 3.5 year contract with decent wages or see out an 18 month contract but not knowing if you're going to get paid or not.
Disgraceful from the board not to even let PDC what was happening.
This article makes it even more depressing. PDC didnt want Matty to go, we certainly did want him to go and Matty didnt want to leave either!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/21
286981
Dont get me wrong I am grateful to AB for all he's done but like some of said he has just sold our prize assett and fan favourite. Just so disappointing!
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I'd suggest the board did the dirty but Matt helped it along by keeping it quiet.
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...there would have been NOTHING to stop Matt telling PDC or someone else who could pass the message on...do you REALLY believe Matt wasn't part of the deceit?
madterrier
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11:14am Fri 1 Feb 13
Might be worth trying to connect on LinkedIn with him, so we can offer some perspective!
the don69
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11:16am Fri 1 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:THE FEELING FOR YOU IS THE SAME AS I HAVE FOR BLACK TOSSER!!!!!!!
the don69 wrote:....and you are an idiot, you should remember without this mans money we would almost certainly be a non league club by now.
Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!
To say good riddance and that you hope he loses money simply beggars belief and shows you are a total prat with the intelligence and understanding of an ameoba.
SAPFanSTFC
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11:19am Fri 1 Feb 13
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mike1990
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11:19am Fri 1 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:Go play with the the man in the moon ol moonraker you prat.Black's done the dirty on us,i too hope he goes Bankrupt.
the don69 wrote:....and you are an idiot, you should remember without this mans money we would almost certainly be a non league club by now.
Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!
To say good riddance and that you hope he loses money simply beggars belief and shows you are a total prat with the intelligence and understanding of an ameoba.
jillyh
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11:23am Fri 1 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:You have no right to judge me or my views. I am expressing this purely because I do not want to support a board who treats a manager in such a crass way. Shame you don't have any ethics. I have never moaned about ex-supporters either, as it is their choice, not yours, if they can afford to attend all the matches.
jillyh wrote:so you are going to join the band of 'stay away supporters' because you don't agree with decisions made by the club?
Please don't let this sound like a farewell speech. If he walks - consider two fans who will not be travelling or spending money on a club who treats their prized asset this way. Don't think it will just be two either!
I wonder if you have ever moaned about 'ex -supporters' who won't attend because of things in the past?
You should be supporting the club NOT individuals who will eventually move on when they want to despite our wants.
You and your post are/is quite pathetic, rather akin to a two year old child stamping their feet because they can't have their own way.
You may say and think that you are a true supporter, but your words prove otherwise.
townender
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11:39am Fri 1 Feb 13
I honestly dont post on here very often but feel the need.
Our beloved club would have been going the way pompey has if it wasnt for selling Matt Ritchie!! Posters are saying they are not going to support STFC and boycott games! WHY???? The club needs ALL town fans to get behind the team and the manager more than ever. Look at the evidence:
1. New owners with a new beginning
2. Kept squad intact apart from MR
3. New players in the next week
4. Probably the best manager outside the premiership
5. Most important of all - we have still got a club we can be proud of!!
Come on guys lets stop all the negative posting and lets get behind the team and roar our way to the championship!!!!
jillyh
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11:52am Fri 1 Feb 13
townender wrote:I agree townender, it was the way in which the sale was done that has upset me and so many (maybe even Matt Ritchie himself).. Trust isn't easily restored - will it happen again? -that's the whole point I have been trying to make. Other posters like to jump on your back for that. However, I do feel we need some clarification from someone at STFC as to how we are progressing as this is how rumours and worry spread. Cheltenham had the courtesy to do so.
Good morning,
I honestly dont post on here very often but feel the need.
Our beloved club would have been going the way pompey has if it wasnt for selling Matt Ritchie!! Posters are saying they are not going to support STFC and boycott games! WHY???? The club needs ALL town fans to get behind the team and the manager more than ever. Look at the evidence:
1. New owners with a new beginning
2. Kept squad intact apart from MR
3. New players in the next week
4. Probably the best manager outside the premiership
5. Most important of all - we have still got a club we can be proud of!!
Come on guys lets stop all the negative posting and lets get behind the team and roar our way to the championship!!!!
Devon Red
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11:57am Fri 1 Feb 13
Whilst the club are going through a period of transition I accept things will not be made known to fans but surely those that are currently taking a wage from the club should be communicating to both the manager and fans in a far more professional way. Cheltenham may not be as big a club as us but they seem to be able to make clear and precise statements at the right time.
I have to say the change in PDC over the last couple of weeks is remarkable. To me he continues to learn and grow in stature as a manager.
J Wray was very professional and a gentleman during his time at the club he is sorely missed.
As for the above arguements, get a grip, we all support STFC so that should be a good enough reason to show some respect for each others views.
Rant over.
COYR.
STFC MARLOW
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12:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13
I HOPE he won't walk but I fear he might.
Lets push on and at least get in the play offs if not automatic promotion.
In Paolo we trust!!
ShearerShearer
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12:33pm Fri 1 Feb 13
LeGod wrote:I think he will stay with us in the Championship, providing the new owners plan/ambition meets his ambition. I get the impression that PDC has a real sense of committment and loyalty not often seen these days in football.
Paolo has been the best manager we have had in a long while and i really appreciate his loyalty and he comes across as a very loyal guy. But lets face facts here out of courtesy he should have been told by Black and Patey about Ritchie and he will feel like he has been crapped on from a great height. Personally i think he will see the season out and leave in the summer as i think to him he has been double crossed by Black and Patey. I really hope i'm wrong but that is my gut feeling unless this new lot have got serious ambitions as they say they have and he couls stay but i think other clubs will come in for Paolo anyway.
Besides, Black and Patey will be gone come the summer if this deal goes through for the new ownership, so no axes left to grind for PDC is there?
Wilesy
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12:35pm Fri 1 Feb 13
One thing on the Ritchie sale, last January he had 18 months on his contract i believe. I don't think that got extended (should have done!) so now only has 6 months left, so may have had some bearing on the reduced fee?
Presumably contract discussions with a few others will take place soon, would be disappointing to see Wes's contract also fizzle out then leave for peanuts.
Is that you Lovesey
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12:47pm Fri 1 Feb 13
They had no choice but to sell Matt, yes I am gutted and from what I hear they were trying to avoid selling Matt by offloading Collins to Wolves but it fell through, the only offer they had that would allow them the time to get the deal done was for Ritchie,
Well i agree that the last month haven't been the best Andrew Black will always have my respect for keeping this club afloat and bankrolling the last 18months, maybe things would have been different if we hadn't bought so many players for fees and let them go on free transfers and signed so many dudds, Bostock for example, we were paying a lot on his wages but half the loan period he wasn't even on the bench, Rooney, paid a fee to gillingham yet he wont even get on the bench despite having an obvious talent. Lets not even start about Magera and the rest of the players who were absolute tripe.
Yes PDC is a legend in my eyes and this has been an amazing 18months with PDC in charge, but all of that was only possible because Black funded it.
Give the new owners a chance, i would rather Matt was sold than us be in administration right now facing a 20 points dedction.
The Jockster
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12:49pm Fri 1 Feb 13
jillyh wrote:We heard you the 1st time!:)
Please don't let this sound like a farewell speech. If he walks - consider two fans who will not be travelling or spending money on a club who treats their prized asset this way. Don't think it will just be two either!
the don69
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12:50pm Fri 1 Feb 13
jillyh wrote:Spot on townender all fans get behind Paolo and the team,now is the time for our support more than ever!!!!!!!!
townender wrote:I agree townender, it was the way in which the sale was done that has upset me and so many (maybe even Matt Ritchie himself).. Trust isn't easily restored - will it happen again? -that's the whole point I have been trying to make. Other posters like to jump on your back for that. However, I do feel we need some clarification from someone at STFC as to how we are progressing as this is how rumours and worry spread. Cheltenham had the courtesy to do so.
Good morning,
I honestly dont post on here very often but feel the need.
Our beloved club would have been going the way pompey has if it wasnt for selling Matt Ritchie!! Posters are saying they are not going to support STFC and boycott games! WHY???? The club needs ALL town fans to get behind the team and the manager more than ever. Look at the evidence:
1. New owners with a new beginning
2. Kept squad intact apart from MR
3. New players in the next week
4. Probably the best manager outside the premiership
5. Most important of all - we have still got a club we can be proud of!!
Come on guys lets stop all the negative posting and lets get behind the team and roar our way to the championship!!!!
STFC Higworth
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12:53pm Fri 1 Feb 13
themoonraker wrote:Nice one!!!! Again because he does not agree with you he is stupid. LOL
the don69 wrote: Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!....and you are an idiot, you should remember without this mans money we would almost certainly be a non league club by now. To say good riddance and that you hope he loses money simply beggars belief and shows you are a total prat with the intelligence and understanding of an ameoba.
themoonraker = T**t
Stratton Red
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12:58pm Fri 1 Feb 13
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Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there???
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killerontheloose
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12:59pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Suggests to me that the new wners ain't going to put much money in which mean PDC's ambiions will not be matched and conference / liquidation follows.
The Jockster
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12:59pm Fri 1 Feb 13
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Agreed, you can bet your bottom dollar that MR was pulling strings in the background. If you compere it to the real world of commercial business he was head hunted and decided that the grass was greener at Bournemouth. We'd all do the same if we were say under threat of redundancy and another job came along worth similar or better benefits and security. We'd be gone too, can't blame the lad for that but I so blame the club for being disingenuous with Paolo about it and... Had he taken umbrage and walked then no one could've blamed him I think.
stfc4ever!! wrote:I'm not sure we can be certain the Matt didn't play a part in speeding the deal up due to the scenario at STFC - 3.5 year contract with decent wages or see out an 18 month contract but not knowing if you're going to get paid or not.
Disgraceful from the board not to even let PDC what was happening.
This article makes it even more depressing. PDC didnt want Matty to go, we certainly did want him to go and Matty didnt want to leave either!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/21
286981
Dont get me wrong I am grateful to AB for all he's done but like some of said he has just sold our prize assett and fan favourite. Just so disappointing!
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I'd suggest the board did the dirty but Matt helped it along by keeping it quiet.
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...there would have been NOTHING to stop Matt telling PDC or someone else who could pass the message on...do you REALLY believe Matt wasn't part of the deceit?
RedRich
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1:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13
wurzelday wrote:How do you know this? I hope you are right, but know the Football League & how they like us! it will probably drag on.
I think we will have ratification on Sunday evening/Monday morning.
mike1990
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1:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13
STFC Higworth wrote:I'll second that STFC. The Moonraker=T**t.
themoonraker wrote:Nice one!!!! Again because he does not agree with you he is stupid. LOL
the don69 wrote: Lost all respect for Black,he don't give a Toss for Swindon or anyone that works for or supports Swindon Town,he's just dumped us all and to hell with his Toy!just tossed us to the wolves,far has I'm concerned good riddens to him,shame he didn't lose all his dosh!!!!!!!!!!....and you are an idiot, you should remember without this mans money we would almost certainly be a non league club by now. To say good riddance and that you hope he loses money simply beggars belief and shows you are a total prat with the intelligence and understanding of an ameoba.
themoonraker = T**t
Wilesy
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1:04pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Wonder when the media circus that followed Swindon will latch on to that signing....
London Red
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1:07pm Fri 1 Feb 13
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He said he leaves with a heavy heart and thank PdC for making him a better player
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I had a go at him earlier and realise I was wrong - think a few others need to realise that too!!!!
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He was in exactly the same boat as George Ndah - told go or the club goes - so he made a decision which he thought was best for everyone
STFC Higworth
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1:10pm Fri 1 Feb 13
London Red wrote:fair play. I did not say anything but thought it. PDC sounded in good spirits yesterday so a message to the adver. Please stop trying to stir things up with silly headlines.
See the Ritchie article where I have posted the BBC interview where MR said he was TOLD to leave to aid the sale of the club . He said he leaves with a heavy heart and thank PdC for making him a better player . I had a go at him earlier and realise I was wrong - think a few others need to realise that too!!!! . He was in exactly the same boat as George Ndah - told go or the club goes - so he made a decision which he thought was best for everyone
buckobassettboy
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1:16pm Fri 1 Feb 13
anagement and players have become consumed with greed.Entrance fees have gone through the roof.Went to Orient to be asked for 57 pounds for me and my 2 teenage children for a mediocre Div 1 game.I am full of admiration for the 700 odd fans that travelled to the game but as far as I am concerned the players clapping us lot who made the effort has no meaning any more.Ritchie knew he was going and don 't think for one minute none of his team mates knew either.The whole F*****g place is full of Deceit,Greed and do not give a flying F*** about the fans as long as they can screw the club for a wage-irrespective if they play good or bad.As much as all this sickens me,I will be at Colchester on Tuesday but only because I am 20 minutes from the ground.Gone are the days travelling to the County Ground to be treated with utter contempt.That readers applies to you as well.All you loyal fans who go to far more games than me are being mugged at every opportunity STFC get in order to prop up obscene wage bills.The whole place is rotten to the core-again!
RamsburyRed
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1:33pm Fri 1 Feb 13
buckobassettboy wrote:Calm down, it's only football ...
This beloved club of ours has always had a dark side.My first game was 1964 so I go back a fair way remembering my uncle telling me about a certain'Bronco Lane' and others involved in a match fixing scandal.Our past and current history is blighted with controversy.Owners,m anagement and players have become consumed with greed.Entrance fees have gone through the roof.Went to Orient to be asked for 57 pounds for me and my 2 teenage children for a mediocre Div 1 game.I am full of admiration for the 700 odd fans that travelled to the game but as far as I am concerned the players clapping us lot who made the effort has no meaning any more.Ritchie knew he was going and don 't think for one minute none of his team mates knew either.The whole F*****g place is full of Deceit,Greed and do not give a flying F*** about the fans as long as they can screw the club for a wage-irrespective if they play good or bad.As much as all this sickens me,I will be at Colchester on Tuesday but only because I am 20 minutes from the ground.Gone are the days travelling to the County Ground to be treated with utter contempt.That readers applies to you as well.All you loyal fans who go to far more games than me are being mugged at every opportunity STFC get in order to prop up obscene wage bills.The whole place is rotten to the core-again!
Oi Den!
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1:42pm Fri 1 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Blimey LR. You were well off the pace, weren't you? I thought the reason for Ritchie's sale could hardly have been more obvious right from the start. But I have no doubt he could have refused to go - and maybe he would have done if he'd received an offer of poor personal terms.
See the Ritchie article where I have posted the BBC interview where MR said he was TOLD to leave to aid the sale of the club
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He said he leaves with a heavy heart and thank PdC for making him a better player
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I had a go at him earlier and realise I was wrong - think a few others need to realise that too!!!!
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He was in exactly the same boat as George Ndah - told go or the club goes - so he made a decision which he thought was best for everyone
the don69
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1:42pm Fri 1 Feb 13
RamsburyRed wrote:Sadly that is football,,obscene wages and greed right through the game!!!!!!
buckobassettboy wrote:Calm down, it's only football ...
This beloved club of ours has always had a dark side.My first game was 1964 so I go back a fair way remembering my uncle telling me about a certain'Bronco Lane' and others involved in a match fixing scandal.Our past and current history is blighted with controversy.Owners,m anagement and players have become consumed with greed.Entrance fees have gone through the roof.Went to Orient to be asked for 57 pounds for me and my 2 teenage children for a mediocre Div 1 game.I am full of admiration for the 700 odd fans that travelled to the game but as far as I am concerned the players clapping us lot who made the effort has no meaning any more.Ritchie knew he was going and don 't think for one minute none of his team mates knew either.The whole F*****g place is full of Deceit,Greed and do not give a flying F*** about the fans as long as they can screw the club for a wage-irrespective if they play good or bad.As much as all this sickens me,I will be at Colchester on Tuesday but only because I am 20 minutes from the ground.Gone are the days travelling to the County Ground to be treated with utter contempt.That readers applies to you as well.All you loyal fans who go to far more games than me are being mugged at every opportunity STFC get in order to prop up obscene wage bills.The whole place is rotten to the core-again!
the don69
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1:46pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Oi Den! wrote:As I'm sure you know Den!99% of players will move for a few grand more,greed again but can we blame them,grabbing what they can not caring about the clubs???????????
London Red wrote:Blimey LR. You were well off the pace, weren't you? I thought the reason for Ritchie's sale could hardly have been more obvious right from the start. But I have no doubt he could have refused to go - and maybe he would have done if he'd received an offer of poor personal terms.
See the Ritchie article where I have posted the BBC interview where MR said he was TOLD to leave to aid the sale of the club
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He said he leaves with a heavy heart and thank PdC for making him a better player
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I had a go at him earlier and realise I was wrong - think a few others need to realise that too!!!!
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He was in exactly the same boat as George Ndah - told go or the club goes - so he made a decision which he thought was best for everyone
akershaker
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1:58pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Firstly, thanks Andrew Black and co - without them we won't have a club to support. They have poured their own money to get us where we are now; stop and think about where we are... Exactly two years ago we sold our best player and were bottom of this league - now we have a better squad and are third. We have new owners unsaddled by debt and a fantastic manager, on the verge of bringing in 3 quality players. Due to Blacks continued support we have one of few lower league clubs that has been able to go for two years without selling any players that didn't walk of their accord. We've come to expect that very quickly.
On Ritchie, I think everyone is sad to see him go. But the money was needed and also, I believe he was out of contract in the summer? If this is the case we would have either lost him for free or had to offer him a much higher wage to stay. The new owners may be trying to adopt a more sustainable wage model that might not support this wage and, despite the way some on this forum talk, our promotion to the championship is NOT garenteed. Ritchie is a championship level player and may have left anyway.
On club statements, the fans seems to be obsessed with knowing every details of everything that goes on in the club. Meanwhile egging such other into paranoid horrors. I read on Wednesday that Paolo and half the squad were off yesterday! Relax and let things evolve, something's cannot be made public.
Fans saying they are going to rip up their season tickets need to realise how lucky they are. We play beautiful attacking football and are third in the league. Would you rather watch the gas next season on a rugby pitch in the conference? Pompey and Birmingham having to sell every decent player they have? Rangers kicked out of SPL? Enjoy the great football and chill out.
the don69
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2:02pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red
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2:48pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:LET'S TALK FOOTBALL...
OK, I'm bored of all this now! Who's going to play right mid on saturday??? * Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there??? * Views???
Swindon1984
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2:49pm Fri 1 Feb 13
akershaker wrote:Very good comments.
Some bizarre posts in this thread. Firstly, thanks Andrew Black and co - without them we won't have a club to support. They have poured their own money to get us where we are now; stop and think about where we are... Exactly two years ago we sold our best player and were bottom of this league - now we have a better squad and are third. We have new owners unsaddled by debt and a fantastic manager, on the verge of bringing in 3 quality players. Due to Blacks continued support we have one of few lower league clubs that has been able to go for two years without selling any players that didn't walk of their accord. We've come to expect that very quickly. On Ritchie, I think everyone is sad to see him go. But the money was needed and also, I believe he was out of contract in the summer? If this is the case we would have either lost him for free or had to offer him a much higher wage to stay. The new owners may be trying to adopt a more sustainable wage model that might not support this wage and, despite the way some on this forum talk, our promotion to the championship is NOT garenteed. Ritchie is a championship level player and may have left anyway. On club statements, the fans seems to be obsessed with knowing every details of everything that goes on in the club. Meanwhile egging such other into paranoid horrors. I read on Wednesday that Paolo and half the squad were off yesterday! Relax and let things evolve, something's cannot be made public. Fans saying they are going to rip up their season tickets need to realise how lucky they are. We play beautiful attacking football and are third in the league. Would you rather watch the gas next season on a rugby pitch in the conference? Pompey and Birmingham having to sell every decent player they have? Rangers kicked out of SPL? Enjoy the great football and chill out.
Also this greed thing always bugs me, if a player wants to go to better his career (or if they just want to go to earn a bit more cash) so what? I've said this time and time again but we employ a player and pay him a wage, if he gives his all and does well for us, what more can we ask? If he wants to move away for better money, wouldn't we all do the same? I like my job but if someone offered me a huge amount more money to do the same thing somewhere else you bet I'd bite their hand off for it! Appreciate what the player does whilst he's here, don't dwell on how or why he may leave. In Ritchie's case it's been made pretty clear and no real blame can be attached to him.
Stratton Red
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2:54pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:SOMEONE...
Stratton Red wrote: OK, I'm bored of all this now! Who's going to play right mid on saturday??? * Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there??? * Views???LET'S TALK FOOTBALL...
jontyg
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3:01pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red
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3:04pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:ANYONE!!!
Stratton Red wrote:SOMEONE...Stratton Red wrote: OK, I'm bored of all this now! Who's going to play right mid on saturday??? * Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there??? * Views???LET'S TALK FOOTBALL...
The Jockster
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3:08pm Fri 1 Feb 13
the don69
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3:16pm Fri 1 Feb 13
The Jockster wrote:There is one Jock!Stratton!!:)
NO ONE!! :)
John Young's Grumpy
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3:18pm Fri 1 Feb 13
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...
And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...
If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.
And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...
STFC new theme tune - play it load when the lads come out ;-)
COYR!!!!
Stratton Red
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3:21pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:PLEASE!!!...
Stratton Red wrote:ANYONE!!!Stratton Red wrote:SOMEONE...Stratton Red wrote: OK, I'm bored of all this now! Who's going to play right mid on saturday??? * Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there??? * Views???LET'S TALK FOOTBALL...
John Young's Grumpy
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3:30pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Stratton Red wrote:Stratton,
Stratton Red wrote:PLEASE!!!...Stratton Red wrote:ANYONE!!!Stratton Red wrote:SOMEONE...Stratton Red wrote: OK, I'm bored of all this now! Who's going to play right mid on saturday??? * Roberts was awful on Tue night when he replaced Rafa, who only had an OK game. I have a horrible feeling he may play Ferry there and Alan Mac CM with Mceverley at LB. Maybe one of the Rooneys might get a strat there??? * Views???LET'S TALK FOOTBALL...
Agree, Roberts looked out of sorts but I think he wa strying. Ferry could put in a good shift, ok so not his favoured position but he is fast and a good thinker so if can adapt to the predicted poor pitch I think he could do it. Macca should start in normal role but if we have a stalemate first half he should be allowed to drift into mid-field (if Flinty is playing) as opportunity presents. He is astute in looking Lt and Rt so can support Ferry (if out on wing).
For me, it will be about hitting them hard first half, get a lead and then letting our lads better fitness sustain that lead (fingers crossed) second half.
3 points please - In PDC we trust.
the don69
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3:31pm Fri 1 Feb 13
John Young's Grumpy wrote:You don't sound Grumpy to me John!I can divulge to you from my source that you sound very cheerful!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...
And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...
If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.
And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...
STFC new theme tune - play it load when the lads come out ;-)
COYR!!!!
Oi Den!
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3:40pm Fri 1 Feb 13
jontyg wrote:You powers of perception never cease to amaze me, Holmes!
The next big obstacle is whether the FL will ratify the takeover by Jed & Co. He didn't get the nod at Luton so this is a huge hurdle to get over. It ain't a done deal yet.
Oi Den!
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3:41pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Bassett Hound
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3:43pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Carlo
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3:45pm Fri 1 Feb 13
buckobassettboy wrote:Wow, you are a bundle of laughs.
This beloved club of ours has always had a dark side.My first game was 1964 so I go back a fair way remembering my uncle telling me about a certain'Bronco Lane' and others involved in a match fixing scandal.Our past and current history is blighted with controversy.Owners,m anagement and players have become consumed with greed.Entrance fees have gone through the roof.Went to Orient to be asked for 57 pounds for me and my 2 teenage children for a mediocre Div 1 game.I am full of admiration for the 700 odd fans that travelled to the game but as far as I am concerned the players clapping us lot who made the effort has no meaning any more.Ritchie knew he was going and don 't think for one minute none of his team mates knew either.The whole F*****g place is full of Deceit,Greed and do not give a flying F*** about the fans as long as they can screw the club for a wage-irrespective if they play good or bad.As much as all this sickens me,I will be at Colchester on Tuesday but only because I am 20 minutes from the ground.Gone are the days travelling to the County Ground to be treated with utter contempt.That readers applies to you as well.All you loyal fans who go to far more games than me are being mugged at every opportunity STFC get in order to prop up obscene wage bills.The whole place is rotten to the core-again!
You need to calm down a bit, take things into perspective (i.e. look at some of the other comments) then get out there and cheer the Town on !!!!!
John Young's Grumpy
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3:55pm Fri 1 Feb 13
the don69 wrote:Happy as a pig in sh!t......
John Young's Grumpy wrote: Some things in life are bad They can really make you mad Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's gristle Don't grumble, give a whistle And this'll help things turn out for the best... And...always look on the bright side of life... Always look on the light side of life... If life seems jolly rotten There's something you've forgotten And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing. When you're feeling in the dumps Don't be silly chumps Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing. And...always look on the bright side of life... Always look on the light side of life... STFC new theme tune - play it load when the lads come out ;-) COYR!!!!You don't sound Grumpy to me John!I can divulge to you from my source that you sound very cheerful!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its Friday and a beer night.
Game is on Sky live tomorrow.
Wife says I can watch upstairs out the way while she letches at Welsh rugby players in 6 Nations - so leaving me alone.
Whats not to be cheerful about!!
COYR!!
smirg kcab
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4:09pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Just a thought and this is the only positive thing I can take out of this stupid sale
Onwards and upwards
London Red
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4:37pm Fri 1 Feb 13
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The comments from him at that time did not indicate that
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Also at that time we had not been updated to the situation - just informed that contracts had been exchanged and we were now safe
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Not sure its fair to say anyone is in or out of the loop as know one knows what is actually going on
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All we know is no others were needed to be sold, PdC still on board and we agreed deals for 3 new players - that would seem all is well and just needs the rubber stamp
Swindon1984
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4:58pm Fri 1 Feb 13
London Red wrote:Love the optimism :-) But not entirely misplaced. We've seen so much go wrong over the years the natural reaction sometimes seems to be "not this again," but don't think it's time to lose all hope yet. Could be players coming in, Paolo sounds positive, the best response after this week would be to show a united front tomorrow and stick another three past the creepies. Sending a message to all that you can't keep STFC down.
Den - I hadn't realised he literally was phoned up on his way home from training and told go to Bournemouth now you have to leave to save the club! . The comments from him at that time did not indicate that . Also at that time we had not been updated to the situation - just informed that contracts had been exchanged and we were now safe . Not sure its fair to say anyone is in or out of the loop as know one knows what is actually going on . All we know is no others were needed to be sold, PdC still on board and we agreed deals for 3 new players - that would seem all is well and just needs the rubber stamp
DarrenSTFCRomain
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5:26pm Fri 1 Feb 13
IF the 3 players that we were going to sign dont come in he will walk....
Stratton Red
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6:58pm Fri 1 Feb 13
hornet
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7:09pm Fri 1 Feb 13
hornet
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7:16pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Today Jed should have had his arm round Paolo in a picture telling us how good the new partnership wlll be
Instead town website telling us benson has signed for cheltnham
This is not good
hornet
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7:40pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Paolo exclusive in the next few minutes to Adver
I'm considering my future
redjet
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8:18pm Fri 1 Feb 13
madterrier wrote:Sorry mate it ia a big story. If I was Paolo I'd tell the club to stick it up their @rse but I guess they have already done that to themselves.
It's all well and good, but Paolo doesn't own the club and doesn't have to be asked by the owners.
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.
madterrier
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8:29pm Fri 1 Feb 13
candlestrobe
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8:41pm Fri 1 Feb 13
Bast01
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9:41pm Fri 1 Feb 13
On my way back to Swindon from oz at the end of Feb' was really looking forward to a few games, with Paolo in charge !!!
buckobassettboy
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4:22pm Sat 2 Feb 13
Carlo wrote:As I stated in my post,1964 was the start of my affair with Swindon Town and will continue 'Til I Die'.Not sure how long you have been with us but we are all glad of your support.I have been calm through all the crap that has gone on in the past and if you check the history there has been plenty of it.Nobody associated with the running of the club appears to have learned any lesson whatsoever from the past.Still do not own our own ground,asset stripping to survive after all these years appears to be the norm.Now,after my original post it is muted that Paolo may be taking the long walk.I hope not but maybe he has realised that the powers within do not reserve their contempt to just the fans.
buckobassettboy wrote:Wow, you are a bundle of laughs.
This beloved club of ours has always had a dark side.My first game was 1964 so I go back a fair way remembering my uncle telling me about a certain'Bronco Lane' and others involved in a match fixing scandal.Our past and current history is blighted with controversy.Owners,m anagement and players have become consumed with greed.Entrance fees have gone through the roof.Went to Orient to be asked for 57 pounds for me and my 2 teenage children for a mediocre Div 1 game.I am full of admiration for the 700 odd fans that travelled to the game but as far as I am concerned the players clapping us lot who made the effort has no meaning any more.Ritchie knew he was going and don 't think for one minute none of his team mates knew either.The whole F*****g place is full of Deceit,Greed and do not give a flying F*** about the fans as long as they can screw the club for a wage-irrespective if they play good or bad.As much as all this sickens me,I will be at Colchester on Tuesday but only because I am 20 minutes from the ground.Gone are the days travelling to the County Ground to be treated with utter contempt.That readers applies to you as well.All you loyal fans who go to far more games than me are being mugged at every opportunity STFC get in order to prop up obscene wage bills.The whole place is rotten to the core-again!
You need to calm down a bit, take things into perspective (i.e. look at some of the other comments) then get out there and cheer the Town on !!!!!
Now that is of my chest,please may we stuff Crawley out of sight and bury Colchester on tues.COYR's
madterrier says...
10:27am Fri 1 Feb 13
A good owner, who was continuing in the club, would involve the manager as a simple courtesy as they would need to continue to work together.
But to Black, Paolo is just an employee of a company he was about to exit.
Non story.