We'll stay until May (From The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald)

stokes_stfc wrote:
"Should Di Canio manage to get rid of those individuals"... Seems a bit disrespectful! ha

smirg kcab wrote:
Three headlines for the price of one.?
No wonder people don't BUY the paper no more.

Onwards and upwards
Socks blown back on

jam1 wrote:
would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

London Red wrote:
So how did paying Risser off help then?
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Surely a loan with Aldershot paying part as initially reorted would have given us a bit more in the pot - maybe enough for Bostock to stay for another month

Davidsyrett wrote:

London Red wrote:
So how did paying Risser off help then?
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Surely a loan with Aldershot paying part as initially reorted would have given us a bit more in the pot - maybe enough for Bostock to stay for another month

LR, Bostock hasn't always been in the squad let alone starting, quite simply he was an expensive luxury.

Davidsyrett wrote:

London Red wrote:
So how did paying Risser off help then?
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Surely a loan with Aldershot paying part as initially reorted would have given us a bit more in the pot - maybe enough for Bostock to stay for another month

LR, Bostock hasn't always been in the squad let alone starting, quite simply he was an expensive luxury.

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
If we miss the chance to sign Bostock I think we will look back on it and think "if only". He is going to have a very good career somewhere and I would sooner it was with us.

Lee Cox hardly got on the pitch and was barely noticeable when he did - waste of the fee. I always thought there was more to come from Luke Rooney - who knows what has gone on behind the scenes with him because he looked full of potential and is still very young. Sorry to see the back of Benno but very pleased that he has got a deal with Cheltenham, he deserves it. Great professional and a star last year for us in L2.

Hollands is a must buy - him and Ferry should be fixtures in the team. Without Bostock in the squad we don't have creative midfield cover for Ferry. Navarro and Miller are too pedestrian, old and predictable. Both need to go at the end of the season. Martin looks OK and has shown some very good touches but I somehow doubt he is going to turn into a goal machine - players like Charlie Austin might go a few matches without scoring but even when things aren't going well, they still bang them in. He is infinitely preferable to Adam Rooney though.

I look forward to Sir Forked Tongue's gushing admiration for the recent run of form - Sam Morshead is probably saving that one for a quiet news day ..............

London Red wrote:
So how did paying Risser off help then?
.
Surely a loan with Aldershot paying part as initially reorted would have given us a bit more in the pot - maybe enough for Bostock to stay for another month

stfc2012 wrote:

jam1 wrote:
would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

I don't think the board need to clarify things week in/out. We all know the drill thus far. And next seasons plan will depend on which league we are in. Go up and we must invest to have any chance of staying there. Miss out on promotion and it will be a case of whether they think there's enough about already. This squad is nowhere near a championship squad. Decent start but 5 quality players minimum would be needed.

stfc2012 wrote:

jam1 wrote: would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

I don't think the board need to clarify things week in/out. We all know the drill thus far. And next seasons plan will depend on which league we are in. Go up and we must invest to have any chance of staying there. Miss out on promotion and it will be a case of whether they think there's enough about already. This squad is nowhere near a championship squad. Decent start but 5 quality players minimum would be needed.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

London Red wrote:
So how did paying Risser off help then?
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Surely a loan with Aldershot paying part as initially reorted would have given us a bit more in the pot - maybe enough for Bostock to stay for another month

Join the queue of people asking that one from yesterday LR - like you no one seems to be too sure as to how it has helped except that it may remove any end of season promotion bonuses - can't see how that benefits things but possibly it removes a figure from a pot of money somewhere.
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All very strange.

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

Redhouse Red wrote:
When we go up lets see what the board plan to do.

When we stay in league 1 the plan remains as is...

Last step wrote:
We're not going to get clarity from Slippery Patey, that much is clear.

Don't trust him as far as I can throw him.

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
If we miss the chance to sign Bostock I think we will look back on it and think "if only". He is going to have a very good career somewhere and I would sooner it was with us.

Lee Cox hardly got on the pitch and was barely noticeable when he did - waste of the fee. I always thought there was more to come from Luke Rooney - who knows what has gone on behind the scenes with him because he looked full of potential and is still very young. Sorry to see the back of Benno but very pleased that he has got a deal with Cheltenham, he deserves it. Great professional and a star last year for us in L2.

Hollands is a must buy - him and Ferry should be fixtures in the team. Without Bostock in the squad we don't have creative midfield cover for Ferry. Navarro and Miller are too pedestrian, old and predictable. Both need to go at the end of the season. Martin looks OK and has shown some very good touches but I somehow doubt he is going to turn into a goal machine - players like Charlie Austin might go a few matches without scoring but even when things aren't going well, they still bang them in. He is infinitely preferable to Adam Rooney though.

I look forward to Sir Forked Tongue's gushing admiration for the recent run of form - Sam Morshead is probably saving that one for a quiet news day ..............

KerroucheIsntOnFire wrote:

Psychedelic Syd wrote:
If we miss the chance to sign Bostock I think we will look back on it and think "if only". He is going to have a very good career somewhere and I would sooner it was with us.

Lee Cox hardly got on the pitch and was barely noticeable when he did - waste of the fee. I always thought there was more to come from Luke Rooney - who knows what has gone on behind the scenes with him because he looked full of potential and is still very young. Sorry to see the back of Benno but very pleased that he has got a deal with Cheltenham, he deserves it. Great professional and a star last year for us in L2.

Hollands is a must buy - him and Ferry should be fixtures in the team. Without Bostock in the squad we don't have creative midfield cover for Ferry. Navarro and Miller are too pedestrian, old and predictable. Both need to go at the end of the season. Martin looks OK and has shown some very good touches but I somehow doubt he is going to turn into a goal machine - players like Charlie Austin might go a few matches without scoring but even when things aren't going well, they still bang them in. He is infinitely preferable to Adam Rooney though.

I look forward to Sir Forked Tongue's gushing admiration for the recent run of form - Sam Morshead is probably saving that one for a quiet news day ..............

How can you possible want rid of Navarro and Miller? Both ball winning midfielders who allow the likes of Ferry and Hollands to play the attacking game, I've been impressed with Ferrys recent performances but i think a lot of our fans are blinded by his charachter - Miller is vastly underrated by our fans look how much work he does off the ball same for Navarro when he was fit, Midfield gets overrun massively when Ferry is in it, Personally for tough away games id have miller and navarro through the middle all day!

madterrier wrote:

Last step wrote:
We're not going to get clarity from Slippery Patey, that much is clear.

Don't trust him as far as I can throw him.

Patey throwing.

Now that would be good pre-match entertainment. I just wondered what sort of distance your best throw is Last Step?

stfcflag wrote:

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

That's a bit disrespectful. Patey has been a silent man and as such I too fear his intentions and dislike his lack of communication but to call one of the people behind saving our club an idiot is wide of the mark. Black has been a huge help to this club. He put his money in, took us from league 2 and financial trouble to a steady footing in league 1 pushing for more ad being run to a budget. The man is far from an idiot and i for one am grateful for his help to date. I will always have huge respect for wray and the board members just departed for their help too. Fingers crossed blacks support continues and he gives Patey a kick up the wotsit and tells him.to sort his PR!

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

stfcflag wrote:

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

That's a bit disrespectful. Patey has been a silent man and as such I too fear his intentions and dislike his lack of communication but to call one of the people behind saving our club an idiot is wide of the mark. Black has been a huge help to this club. He put his money in, took us from league 2 and financial trouble to a steady footing in league 1 pushing for more ad being run to a budget. The man is far from an idiot and i for one am grateful for his help to date. I will always have huge respect for wray and the board members just departed for their help too. Fingers crossed blacks support continues and he gives Patey a kick up the wotsit and tells him.to sort his PR!

Spot on.....some people need a reality check.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

stfcflag wrote:

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

That's a bit disrespectful. Patey has been a silent man and as such I too fear his intentions and dislike his lack of communication but to call one of the people behind saving our club an idiot is wide of the mark. Black has been a huge help to this club. He put his money in, took us from league 2 and financial trouble to a steady footing in league 1 pushing for more ad being run to a budget. The man is far from an idiot and i for one am grateful for his help to date. I will always have huge respect for wray and the board members just departed for their help too. Fingers crossed blacks support continues and he gives Patey a kick up the wotsit and tells him.to sort his PR!

Spot on.....some people need a reality check.

Yep just what i was thinking,and as the saying goes, You don't know what you've got until its gone, certainly rings true in this case.

the wizard wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

stfcflag wrote:

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

That's a bit disrespectful. Patey has been a silent man and as such I too fear his intentions and dislike his lack of communication but to call one of the people behind saving our club an idiot is wide of the mark. Black has been a huge help to this club. He put his money in, took us from league 2 and financial trouble to a steady footing in league 1 pushing for more ad being run to a budget. The man is far from an idiot and i for one am grateful for his help to date. I will always have huge respect for wray and the board members just departed for their help too. Fingers crossed blacks support continues and he gives Patey a kick up the wotsit and tells him.to sort his PR!

Spot on.....some people need a reality check.

Yep just what i was thinking,and as the saying goes, You don't know what you've got until its gone, certainly rings true in this case.

I've never met Black, but I do respect what he has done, his input and there has never been in my mind any doubt over his commitment and good will.

All I would say is, he could have chosen somebody perhaps a bit more engaging and charismatic as his new Chairman, who is prepared to be a bit more "the ordinary bloke" as goes communicating with the manager and supporters. Wray's common man approach won him plaudits and that priceless commodity, respect. You don't necessarily have to like somebody to respect them, he doesn't need to like us, but he can exercise some due diligence and build bridges and that would be a good start . Some acknowledgement of our concern would go down well.

Steve. Brentford wrote:

the wizard wrote:

Steve. Brentford wrote:

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:

stfcflag wrote:

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

That's a bit disrespectful. Patey has been a silent man and as such I too fear his intentions and dislike his lack of communication but to call one of the people behind saving our club an idiot is wide of the mark. Black has been a huge help to this club. He put his money in, took us from league 2 and financial trouble to a steady footing in league 1 pushing for more ad being run to a budget. The man is far from an idiot and i for one am grateful for his help to date. I will always have huge respect for wray and the board members just departed for their help too. Fingers crossed blacks support continues and he gives Patey a kick up the wotsit and tells him.to sort his PR!

Spot on.....some people need a reality check.

Yep just what i was thinking,and as the saying goes, You don't know what you've got until its gone, certainly rings true in this case.

I've never met Black, but I do respect what he has done, his input and there has never been in my mind any doubt over his commitment and good will.

All I would say is, he could have chosen somebody perhaps a bit more engaging and charismatic as his new Chairman, who is prepared to be a bit more "the ordinary bloke" as goes communicating with the manager and supporters. Wray's common man approach won him plaudits and that priceless commodity, respect. You don't necessarily have to like somebody to respect them, he doesn't need to like us, but he can exercise some due diligence and build bridges and that would be a good start . Some acknowledgement of our concern would go down well.

How i see it is Patey and JWray had a job under the title Chairman and the name is the only thing their jobs have/had in common,Patey has not been employed to have a jolly good old relationship with us the fans,granted JWray was very good at this but not in doing what the board wanted hence Patey is now here doing what he is here for and no doubt some day soon we will see exactly what that entails until then we can all speculate on the eventual outcome but i am not actual looking forward to the day it all becomes clear,then again i don't necessarily like change at the best of times.I will enjoy today and worry about other stuff when i know what i'm worrying about.

harley red wrote:
Patey and black such a pair of idiots,does it not make sence to spend a bit and go up ,I'm sure they could sell the club as it would be a far better product to a new investor .

jam1 wrote:
would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

Another view wrote:
RamsburyRed says... 1:21pm Wed 9 Jan 13 I think SWP is getting a lot of unfair comment on here. I don't mind the Chairman being low profile - in fact, I'd rather he was - how many League club chairmen can you name? * He has been brought in to do a difficult job and is hardly going to be Mr Popular whan part of the brief is to bring in greater financial discipline, which, frankly, the club requires. * And as to the question of 'what is he doing?', we know that part of the job is to seek new investment and possibly even a sale of the club - well, those negotiations are not going to take place in the public eye, nor should they. So we won't find out how effective he has been until there is something to announce." - Well said, Ramsbury. Where have you been, your posts have been missed? I much prefer J Wray to Patey, but STFC is a business as well as a football club, and cashflow was threatening to get out of hand, so realism won over popularity. Just love Steve's motto for living - "I will enjoy today and worry about other stuff when i know what i'm worrying about."

stfc2012 wrote:
We all 'want rid'. Lets be honest. Get rid, offload, clear off - all the same.

Paynter Boy wrote:
I haven't posted on here for a while but I think it's time to get a few things off my chest.

I think the club is in a very precarious position. The current owner wants out and it is obvious that we are a very unattractive proposition for any prospective buyer. In fact, I think buyer is the wrong word. I am pretty sure that Andrew Black would have to write off his losses and give the club away if he is to exit. The club is manifestly losing money and even finding someone to take over the loss making may be too much to expect.

Fans glibly talking of "investment" are simply deluded. Investment implies some kind of return and the current football model at this level just doesn't provide that. Black and Fitton came to Swindon with a commendable vision of creating a sustainable football club. They have, unfortunately, failed, and I fear the situation we are in now may well be worse than when they came.

the wizard wrote:

madterrier wrote:

Last step wrote:
We're not going to get clarity from Slippery Patey, that much is clear.

Don't trust him as far as I can throw him.

Patey throwing.

Now that would be good pre-match entertainment. I just wondered what sort of distance your best throw is Last Step?

Patey - solidly built chap, may be a politician but he would never aspire to be another Wray, he just doesn't have it in him.

I'd rather Wray any day..

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jam1 wrote: would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

Dont understand what you mean by lack of investment.. STFC had a budget at the start of the season and we went over it.. Then we went in2 a embargo after 10 games and Mr Black put in more funds to get use out of it. . So that meant only a small budget for the january sales... So why do we nead clarity

madterrier wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jam1 wrote: would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

Dont understand what you mean by lack of investment.. STFC had a budget at the start of the season and we went over it.. Then we went in2 a embargo after 10 games and Mr Black put in more funds to get use out of it. . So that meant only a small budget for the january sales... So why do we nead clarity

Spot on, Darren.

You spell it out for 'em

Steve. Brentford wrote:

madterrier wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

jam1 wrote: would be good to have a bit of clarity from the board for next season. If we go up are they going to invest again? I really hope so! Is this lack of investment only for for this window, if so, fair enough because of the embargo etc... I know quite a few of us having been saying it recently, but there is absolute silence from the board at the moment, which seems odds when you look at the run we're on.

Dont understand what you mean by lack of investment.. STFC had a budget at the start of the season and we went over it.. Then we went in2 a embargo after 10 games and Mr Black put in more funds to get use out of it. . So that meant only a small budget for the january sales... So why do we nead clarity

Spot on, Darren. You spell it out for 'em

:) You do that Daz.Funny as fukc MT.