SWINDON TOWN: Hollands deal close

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Danny Hollands could well remain a Swindon Town player Danny Hollands could well remain a Swindon Town player

AN EXTENSION to Danny Hollands' loan spell with Swindon Town has been agreed in principle, the Advertiser understands.

Hollands initial stint with the Robins expired on Saturday but the Charlton man could well remain in Wiltshire as Town boss Paolo Di Canio thrashes out the terms of a longer stay at the County Ground.

After extending Chris Martin's time with Swindon by a further 28 days, Di Canio told www.swindontownfc.co.uk that he is close to completing a deal for Hollands.

“We don’t want to say anything before the paperwork is done, but we are close to agreeing something for Danny,” he said.

“He has done well for us since he has been with the club and we know what he can do.

“He has scored a couple of goals and made a big impact, so we want to see what we can do – and perhaps arrange a deal for longer than a month, but we will see what’s going on.”

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5:42pm Mon 7 Jan 13

wiki27 says...

This is great news...but I will be a lot happier when this is signed, sealed and delivered.
This is great news...but I will be a lot happier when this is signed, sealed and delivered. wiki27
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5:45pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Med Red says...

Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!! Med Red
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5:45pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Oxon-Red says...

Would love to see a permanent move, class act in my eyes.

COYMR
Would love to see a permanent move, class act in my eyes. COYMR Oxon-Red
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6:16pm Mon 7 Jan 13

LeGod says...

need him signed up as he has made a big difference to us in the middle of the park and he is key in my book to get signed up. Wish we could sign him permanently.
need him signed up as he has made a big difference to us in the middle of the park and he is key in my book to get signed up. Wish we could sign him permanently. LeGod
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6:24pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Steve. Brentford says...

Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon. Steve. Brentford
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6:29pm Mon 7 Jan 13

jayden says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back jayden
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6:31pm Mon 7 Jan 13

jayden says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back jayden
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6:32pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Steve. Brentford says...

jayden wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
Yes likewise Jayden hope all`s well with your good self.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back[/p][/quote]Yes likewise Jayden hope all`s well with your good self. Steve. Brentford
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6:40pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Haydonender says...

All good news today! Hopefully if we keep Hollands and Martin through Jan and maintain this form then the owners would surely see it as a good investment to find the money to extend when we get to the deadline.

Or even if they're adamant there's no more money, at least it gives us some breathing room to try to clear some of the players we don't want off the wage bill i.e. Cox, Benson etc
All good news today! Hopefully if we keep Hollands and Martin through Jan and maintain this form then the owners would surely see it as a good investment to find the money to extend when we get to the deadline. Or even if they're adamant there's no more money, at least it gives us some breathing room to try to clear some of the players we don't want off the wage bill i.e. Cox, Benson etc Haydonender
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6:42pm Mon 7 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

jayden wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN..

people have bin picking on me
AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP.

Dont tell me off fishing i supose.
WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE...

Hows things mate
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back[/p][/quote]WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN.. people have bin picking on me AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP. Dont tell me off fishing i supose. WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE... Hows things mate DarrenSTFCRomain
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6:43pm Mon 7 Jan 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
How's your worm dangling :)
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]How's your worm dangling :) TheDukeOfBanbury
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6:51pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Steve. Brentford says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
jayden wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN..

people have bin picking on me
AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP.

Dont tell me off fishing i supose.
WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE...

Hows things mate
Haha,been busy mate but hopefully back to normal now,hope you and the girls are well Daz,looking forward to seeing you soon.

Dukey,not done a lot mate,i did however have a couple of sea-trout from the Thames on Sunday morning,happy New Year to you and your family,hope to meet up before the end of the season.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back[/p][/quote]WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN.. people have bin picking on me AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP. Dont tell me off fishing i supose. WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE... Hows things mate[/p][/quote]Haha,been busy mate but hopefully back to normal now,hope you and the girls are well Daz,looking forward to seeing you soon. Dukey,not done a lot mate,i did however have a couple of sea-trout from the Thames on Sunday morning,happy New Year to you and your family,hope to meet up before the end of the season. Steve. Brentford
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6:55pm Mon 7 Jan 13

joey butler says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Steve,

I reckon we are all walking a tightrope over the Grand Canyon at the moment, with PDC at the front.

I predict an automatic promotion position as the most likely outcome, or mediocre mid-table if not, with no middle ground.

I think PDC really is on the brink of a fantastic double promotion, if he keeps his balance and does not fall off the tight rope! It's a long way down from up here!!
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Steve, I reckon we are all walking a tightrope over the Grand Canyon at the moment, with PDC at the front. I predict an automatic promotion position as the most likely outcome, or mediocre mid-table if not, with no middle ground. I think PDC really is on the brink of a fantastic double promotion, if he keeps his balance and does not fall off the tight rope! It's a long way down from up here!! joey butler
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6:59pm Mon 7 Jan 13

SouthcoastRed says...

Maybe Black and Paolo could pay half each.... going Dutch!
Maybe Black and Paolo could pay half each.... going Dutch! SouthcoastRed
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7:26pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Steve. Brentford says...

joey butler wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote:
Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Steve,

I reckon we are all walking a tightrope over the Grand Canyon at the moment, with PDC at the front.

I predict an automatic promotion position as the most likely outcome, or mediocre mid-table if not, with no middle ground.

I think PDC really is on the brink of a fantastic double promotion, if he keeps his balance and does not fall off the tight rope! It's a long way down from up here!!
Hi JB,happy new year to you.
You may be right Joey and of course i (as i'm sure you are) am praying for prediction option 1, i even have my wife hoping we get promoted due to my promise of a extra holiday if we do,if we don't its not the end of the world though mate i`m sure Pompey fans would chop off important body parts to be in our shoes right now eh!
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Steve, I reckon we are all walking a tightrope over the Grand Canyon at the moment, with PDC at the front. I predict an automatic promotion position as the most likely outcome, or mediocre mid-table if not, with no middle ground. I think PDC really is on the brink of a fantastic double promotion, if he keeps his balance and does not fall off the tight rope! It's a long way down from up here!![/p][/quote]Hi JB,happy new year to you. You may be right Joey and of course i (as i'm sure you are) am praying for prediction option 1, i even have my wife hoping we get promoted due to my promise of a extra holiday if we do,if we don't its not the end of the world though mate i`m sure Pompey fans would chop off important body parts to be in our shoes right now eh! Steve. Brentford
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7:49pm Mon 7 Jan 13

california andy says...

That is excellent news, provided it is confirmed. Hollands seems to be an ideal fit with Simon Ferry. Makes Navarro surplus to requirements, no? I wonder if we could ship him out and somehow keep Bostock. That would be a great bit of business. In the half dozen games I saw Navarro play earlier in the season, he was systematically anonymous or worse - cost us a goal in one of them. But Hollands and Martins news is great, just hope it is for the whole season. COYR
That is excellent news, provided it is confirmed. Hollands seems to be an ideal fit with Simon Ferry. Makes Navarro surplus to requirements, no? I wonder if we could ship him out and somehow keep Bostock. That would be a great bit of business. In the half dozen games I saw Navarro play earlier in the season, he was systematically anonymous or worse - cost us a goal in one of them. But Hollands and Martins news is great, just hope it is for the whole season. COYR california andy
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7:50pm Mon 7 Jan 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
jayden wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Med Red wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!!
I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.
Happy newyear mate welcome back
WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN.. people have bin picking on me AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP. Dont tell me off fishing i supose. WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE... Hows things mate
Haha,been busy mate but hopefully back to normal now,hope you and the girls are well Daz,looking forward to seeing you soon. Dukey,not done a lot mate,i did however have a couple of sea-trout from the Thames on Sunday morning,happy New Year to you and your family,hope to meet up before the end of the season.
I really hope so Steve and the same to you.

Need to get some fishing in soon.
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: Forget the loan deal, let's sign him on permanently!![/p][/quote]I agree Med but that will depend on where we finish at the end of the season i reckon.[/p][/quote]Happy newyear mate welcome back[/p][/quote]WERE THE FOCK HAVE YOU BIN.. people have bin picking on me AND WERE WAS YOU TO BACK ME UP. Dont tell me off fishing i supose. WELL THANKS 4 THAT MATE... Hows things mate[/p][/quote]Haha,been busy mate but hopefully back to normal now,hope you and the girls are well Daz,looking forward to seeing you soon. Dukey,not done a lot mate,i did however have a couple of sea-trout from the Thames on Sunday morning,happy New Year to you and your family,hope to meet up before the end of the season.[/p][/quote]I really hope so Steve and the same to you. Need to get some fishing in soon. TheDukeOfBanbury
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7:51pm Mon 7 Jan 13

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Caddis to Charlton anyone ?
Caddis to Charlton anyone ? TheDukeOfBanbury
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7:55pm Mon 7 Jan 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
Caddis to Charlton anyone ?
This is a **** fine idea
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: Caddis to Charlton anyone ?[/p][/quote]This is a **** fine idea ChrisWantageRed
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8:11pm Mon 7 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Hollands coming here is the news most have been waiting for. Just looking further forwards, if we do go up as is suggested and highly probable, do you think Black wants the bill of financing the team into the CCC. I'm just asking the question and nothing more. If his finances are so stretched we really will need further investors, and if that is the case then Patey needs to haul his derrière into action a bit smartish . Someone say Caddis to Charlton, excellent idea that man.
Hollands coming here is the news most have been waiting for. Just looking further forwards, if we do go up as is suggested and highly probable, do you think Black wants the bill of financing the team into the CCC. I'm just asking the question and nothing more. If his finances are so stretched we really will need further investors, and if that is the case then Patey needs to haul his derrière into action a bit smartish . Someone say Caddis to Charlton, excellent idea that man. the wizard
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8:34pm Mon 7 Jan 13

eastern red says...

Caddis to Bristol City.
Caddis to Bristol City. eastern red
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8:44pm Mon 7 Jan 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Caddis anywhere....

Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know.

I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently.
Caddis anywhere.... Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know. I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently. dreamofacleansheet2
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8:54pm Mon 7 Jan 13

southside7 says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Caddis anywhere....

Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know.

I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently.
Make that two, oozes class. Most ability in the whole squad.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Caddis anywhere.... Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know. I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently.[/p][/quote]Make that two, oozes class. Most ability in the whole squad. southside7
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9:08pm Mon 7 Jan 13

mike1990 says...

Great news lets hope we can get Bostock signed up too then we'll be ready to do battle for 21 cup final's and hopefully a top two place.
Great news lets hope we can get Bostock signed up too then we'll be ready to do battle for 21 cup final's and hopefully a top two place. mike1990
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9:36pm Mon 7 Jan 13

London Red says...

According to a Scunthorpe director relegation cost them £3.7m in TV revenue alone (so that makes it practically our entire revenue now!)
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The article I saw it in can be found via google search
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I would love Bostock on a perm as he certainly is one for the future - but short term Hollands was more important
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Bostock is the natural replacement for Miller - who I don't think we stay beyond his 1 year deal
According to a Scunthorpe director relegation cost them £3.7m in TV revenue alone (so that makes it practically our entire revenue now!) . The article I saw it in can be found via google search . I would love Bostock on a perm as he certainly is one for the future - but short term Hollands was more important . Bostock is the natural replacement for Miller - who I don't think we stay beyond his 1 year deal London Red
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9:52pm Mon 7 Jan 13

stigger says...

am also in the want Bostock perm club and just think he has brilliant natural ability and a great range of passing and touch. To be honest when played as well he looks the business, but then so do Ferry and Hollands. For me he should be above Nav and Miller in pecking order. COYR!
am also in the want Bostock perm club and just think he has brilliant natural ability and a great range of passing and touch. To be honest when played as well he looks the business, but then so do Ferry and Hollands. For me he should be above Nav and Miller in pecking order. COYR! stigger
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9:56pm Mon 7 Jan 13

the wizard says...

London Red wrote:
According to a Scunthorpe director relegation cost them £3.7m in TV revenue alone (so that makes it practically our entire revenue now!)
.
The article I saw it in can be found via google search
.
I would love Bostock on a perm as he certainly is one for the future - but short term Hollands was more important
.
Bostock is the natural replacement for Miller - who I don't think we stay beyond his 1 year deal
Have to agree wholeheartedly with that. I just hope that Black can see that we are so solidly sympathetic to his dilemma and also willing to help at the same time.

Although I agree with what you are saying LR I do think that any promotion will cost us substantially more than this years budget and the extra TV money combined. lets just hope things do pan out better and extra investors can be found and of course extra sponsorship as well.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: According to a Scunthorpe director relegation cost them £3.7m in TV revenue alone (so that makes it practically our entire revenue now!) . The article I saw it in can be found via google search . I would love Bostock on a perm as he certainly is one for the future - but short term Hollands was more important . Bostock is the natural replacement for Miller - who I don't think we stay beyond his 1 year deal[/p][/quote]Have to agree wholeheartedly with that. I just hope that Black can see that we are so solidly sympathetic to his dilemma and also willing to help at the same time. Although I agree with what you are saying LR I do think that any promotion will cost us substantially more than this years budget and the extra TV money combined. lets just hope things do pan out better and extra investors can be found and of course extra sponsorship as well. the wizard
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10:09pm Mon 7 Jan 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

London Thank you I had a recollection of you mentioning a figure previously and had optimistically thought £4 million! Near enough.

Wiz I don't agree. I'm obviously not privy to the existing players contracts but if we can get Martin, Hollands and Bostock on permanent deals I believe we have the vast majority of a side that compete in the Championship. I've thought our squad is amazing without them and have believed we'd win the league from the off.

Really think something special is happening here and that it won't take to much more to have a really good crack at the Championship...
London Thank you I had a recollection of you mentioning a figure previously and had optimistically thought £4 million! Near enough. Wiz I don't agree. I'm obviously not privy to the existing players contracts but if we can get Martin, Hollands and Bostock on permanent deals I believe we have the vast majority of a side that compete in the Championship. I've thought our squad is amazing without them and have believed we'd win the league from the off. Really think something special is happening here and that it won't take to much more to have a really good crack at the Championship... dreamofacleansheet2
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10:13pm Mon 7 Jan 13

tally38 says...

Why is everbody raving about Hollands
Ferry is different class,and Bostock will be better than the pair of them, given game time he will play premership football one day
Why is everbody raving about Hollands Ferry is different class,and Bostock will be better than the pair of them, given game time he will play premership football one day tally38
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10:16pm Mon 7 Jan 13

the wizard says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
London Thank you I had a recollection of you mentioning a figure previously and had optimistically thought £4 million! Near enough.

Wiz I don't agree. I'm obviously not privy to the existing players contracts but if we can get Martin, Hollands and Bostock on permanent deals I believe we have the vast majority of a side that compete in the Championship. I've thought our squad is amazing without them and have believed we'd win the league from the off.

Really think something special is happening here and that it won't take to much more to have a really good crack at the Championship...
I think that many of us, myself included, have little apprehension of the costs involved in running a football club, and all the invisibles that we don't know about.
On the face of it you would think perhaps not a lot would change, but I suspect without trying to be mella dramatic there are quite a few things that do, and again we must be aware and not nieve to such things. I'm only wishing for success but also prepared to express some caution to avoid a gun-ho approach such has been employed previously when we obviously got in over our heads. I don't want that again, and I'm sure nobody else does either. Can't wait to see Hollands as ours, and the next home game.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: London Thank you I had a recollection of you mentioning a figure previously and had optimistically thought £4 million! Near enough. Wiz I don't agree. I'm obviously not privy to the existing players contracts but if we can get Martin, Hollands and Bostock on permanent deals I believe we have the vast majority of a side that compete in the Championship. I've thought our squad is amazing without them and have believed we'd win the league from the off. Really think something special is happening here and that it won't take to much more to have a really good crack at the Championship...[/p][/quote]I think that many of us, myself included, have little apprehension of the costs involved in running a football club, and all the invisibles that we don't know about. On the face of it you would think perhaps not a lot would change, but I suspect without trying to be mella dramatic there are quite a few things that do, and again we must be aware and not nieve to such things. I'm only wishing for success but also prepared to express some caution to avoid a gun-ho approach such has been employed previously when we obviously got in over our heads. I don't want that again, and I'm sure nobody else does either. Can't wait to see Hollands as ours, and the next home game. the wizard
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10:17pm Mon 7 Jan 13

the don69 says...

The big tv dosh is in the Prem chaps both Manchester clubs received over £60 million each from sky and Blackpool got over £15 million from their parachute payment!think it's about £2 to £3 million in the championship!!!!!!!!
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The big tv dosh is in the Prem chaps both Manchester clubs received over £60 million each from sky and Blackpool got over £15 million from their parachute payment!think it's about £2 to £3 million in the championship!!!!!!!! !! the don69
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10:19pm Mon 7 Jan 13

London Red says...

I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in
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We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few)
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So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year!
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£4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level
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Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m
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So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget
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As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m
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I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m!
I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in . We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few) . So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year! . £4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level . Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m . So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget . As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m . I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m! London Red
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10:39pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Oxon-Red says...

London Red wrote:
I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in . We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few) . So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year! . £4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level . Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m . So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget . As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m . I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m!
The following article may help explain why it may be in Mr Black's interest to invest a little bit more now:

http://www.thisisswi
ndontownfc.co.uk/new
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ts_swift_passage_to_
Championship/

I thought I had seen an article somewhere that mentioned the TV money in the Championship was likely to be around £9M. May be wrong.

You can see why JW may have allowed Paolo to spend early in the season. I don't believe it has been badly spent either as it is too early, and unfair, to write-off the likes of Navarro, Troy and Miller.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in . We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few) . So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year! . £4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level . Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m . So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget . As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m . I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m![/p][/quote]The following article may help explain why it may be in Mr Black's interest to invest a little bit more now: http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/9831217.Wray_targe ts_swift_passage_to_ Championship/ I thought I had seen an article somewhere that mentioned the TV money in the Championship was likely to be around £9M. May be wrong. You can see why JW may have allowed Paolo to spend early in the season. I don't believe it has been badly spent either as it is too early, and unfair, to write-off the likes of Navarro, Troy and Miller. COYMR Oxon-Red
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10:56pm Mon 7 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
London Red wrote: I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in . We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few) . So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year! . £4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level . Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m . So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget . As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m . I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m!
The following article may help explain why it may be in Mr Black's interest to invest a little bit more now: http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/9831217.Wray_targe ts_swift_passage_to_ Championship/ I thought I had seen an article somewhere that mentioned the TV money in the Championship was likely to be around £9M. May be wrong. You can see why JW may have allowed Paolo to spend early in the season. I don't believe it has been badly spent either as it is too early, and unfair, to write-off the likes of Navarro, Troy and Miller. COYMR
The tv money from next season is massive plus the prize money in the league table is very good to..
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: I don't see why it should cost us that much more than we would get in . We have a pretty decent squad now which we would want to keep a lot of and lots are already contracted for next season (Wes Thompson Ward Jay Ritchie Roberts Navarro Collins and Williams to name a few) . So the base is there already - so like this year we will only need to add 7 or 8 new face compared to 17 or 18 last year! . £4.5m over 7 players is £12k a week - that is a massive wage even at Championship level . Realistically we should be able to add up to 15 players on £5k a week and stay under £4.5m . So renew our current lot we want to keep at the current £4.5m (so pay rises as we will release some) and we would have a very decent squad for about £9m budget . As I've said before - non football cost shouldn't rise much so that would leave expenditure at around £10.5m . I fully expect us to earn over that in the Championship - especially if TV provides about £5m![/p][/quote]The following article may help explain why it may be in Mr Black's interest to invest a little bit more now: http://www.thisisswi ndontownfc.co.uk/new s/9831217.Wray_targe ts_swift_passage_to_ Championship/ I thought I had seen an article somewhere that mentioned the TV money in the Championship was likely to be around £9M. May be wrong. You can see why JW may have allowed Paolo to spend early in the season. I don't believe it has been badly spent either as it is too early, and unfair, to write-off the likes of Navarro, Troy and Miller. COYMR[/p][/quote]The tv money from next season is massive plus the prize money in the league table is very good to.. DarrenSTFCRomain
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11:47pm Mon 7 Jan 13

madterrier says...

We've all reasoned the "It must be worth Mr Black investing a bit more, in order to get into the Championship". Speculate to accumulate, and all that.

The trouble is, how do you get your additional 'investment' out next year? Once a club gets into the Championship, its wages just rise in line with the increased revenue. Everything just leverages up as clubs find it all too easy to spend the extra revenue.

Most clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits.

So the additional 'investment' remains locked in.

If Mr Black and co. really want out as soon as possible, we wouldn't like it if the first thing we did when we got into the Championship is cash in on a top player.

Football is a mad business.
We've all reasoned the "It must be worth Mr Black investing a bit more, in order to get into the Championship". Speculate to accumulate, and all that. The trouble is, how do you get your additional 'investment' out next year? Once a club gets into the Championship, its wages just rise in line with the increased revenue. Everything just leverages up as clubs find it all too easy to spend the extra revenue. Most clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits. So the additional 'investment' remains locked in. If Mr Black and co. really want out as soon as possible, we wouldn't like it if the first thing we did when we got into the Championship is cash in on a top player. Football is a mad business. madterrier
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12:07am Tue 8 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

Good news day.

First choice midfielders for me are
1) Ferry with Bostock as back up.
2) Hollands with Miller as back up then next in line Macca then Navarro.

Ferry is key to it all, and should be first name on the team sheet. Big gamble to lose Bostock and just have Ferry as the sole creative player.

Navarro the spare man for me at the moment. Decent sideways passer and good organiser but haven't seen much else, bar the Brighton game. The others seem to have much more to the game.

Once Jay is back from injury it will be interesting to see where Macca fits in.

Jay is the better left back, Nathan is playing superbly, you'd be mad to split up Ward and Devera, and Ferry and Hollands every time in the middle. A head scratcher for Paolo in a few weeks. Would be very harsh on Nathan if he lost his place now.
Good news day. First choice midfielders for me are 1) Ferry with Bostock as back up. 2) Hollands with Miller as back up then next in line Macca then Navarro. Ferry is key to it all, and should be first name on the team sheet. Big gamble to lose Bostock and just have Ferry as the sole creative player. Navarro the spare man for me at the moment. Decent sideways passer and good organiser but haven't seen much else, bar the Brighton game. The others seem to have much more to the game. Once Jay is back from injury it will be interesting to see where Macca fits in. Jay is the better left back, Nathan is playing superbly, you'd be mad to split up Ward and Devera, and Ferry and Hollands every time in the middle. A head scratcher for Paolo in a few weeks. Would be very harsh on Nathan if he lost his place now. Wilesy
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12:36am Tue 8 Jan 13

Oxon-Red says...

madterrier wrote:
We've all reasoned the "It must be worth Mr Black investing a bit more, in order to get into the Championship". Speculate to accumulate, and all that. The trouble is, how do you get your additional 'investment' out next year? Once a club gets into the Championship, its wages just rise in line with the increased revenue. Everything just leverages up as clubs find it all too easy to spend the extra revenue. Most clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits. So the additional 'investment' remains locked in. If Mr Black and co. really want out as soon as possible, we wouldn't like it if the first thing we did when we got into the Championship is cash in on a top player. Football is a mad business.
Terrier,

I believe, someone correct me if I am wrong, that the reason many Championship sides are in dire straits (Sultans of Swing my favourite) is that the financial fair play has not yet been applied.

The whole point of the cap on wage/transfer spend (65% of our income in our case) is to stop clubs overspending or, as I see it (more importantly, being loaned) money they cannot pay back. At Swindon we exceeded the 65% threshold and Mr Black had to inject money into the club that had been kept aside for now.

Again, please correct me if I am wrong as it is how I interpret it, clubs will be able to spend more than the set percentage of their income but only if that money is, in effect, given to the club. i.e. Man City's owners will be able to inject the same funds as now but there will be no debt owed by the club.

In a similar way, we as fans (or Paolo) can give to the Red Army Fund and it can be used by the club in the same way. i.e. it has no impact on the 65% cap because we cannot be repaid.

Mr Black could regain his gifts by selling the club for more if it reaches the championship or through dividends if Town make a profit. He is a racing man, which could make the next few weeks interesting. Does he own a Desert Orchid that is worth a punt or ...

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: We've all reasoned the "It must be worth Mr Black investing a bit more, in order to get into the Championship". Speculate to accumulate, and all that. The trouble is, how do you get your additional 'investment' out next year? Once a club gets into the Championship, its wages just rise in line with the increased revenue. Everything just leverages up as clubs find it all too easy to spend the extra revenue. Most clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits. So the additional 'investment' remains locked in. If Mr Black and co. really want out as soon as possible, we wouldn't like it if the first thing we did when we got into the Championship is cash in on a top player. Football is a mad business.[/p][/quote]Terrier, I believe, someone correct me if I am wrong, that the reason many Championship sides are in dire straits (Sultans of Swing my favourite) is that the financial fair play has not yet been applied. The whole point of the cap on wage/transfer spend (65% of our income in our case) is to stop clubs overspending or, as I see it (more importantly, being loaned) money they cannot pay back. At Swindon we exceeded the 65% threshold and Mr Black had to inject money into the club that had been kept aside for now. Again, please correct me if I am wrong as it is how I interpret it, clubs will be able to spend more than the set percentage of their income but only if that money is, in effect, given to the club. i.e. Man City's owners will be able to inject the same funds as now but there will be no debt owed by the club. In a similar way, we as fans (or Paolo) can give to the Red Army Fund and it can be used by the club in the same way. i.e. it has no impact on the 65% cap because we cannot be repaid. Mr Black could regain his gifts by selling the club for more if it reaches the championship or through dividends if Town make a profit. He is a racing man, which could make the next few weeks interesting. Does he own a Desert Orchid that is worth a punt or ... COYMR Oxon-Red
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9:09am Tue 8 Jan 13

London Red says...

Cardiff despite having 5 winding up orders were allowed to spend 110% of their income on wages - that is why lots of clubs are in trouble at that level - chasing the Premiership pay-off
.
Granted we may be doing that at a much reduced level in L1 - but if we stick to the FFP rules and wages are at 65% then there is no reason we can not take the extra £6,7,8m or whatever figure it may be and NOT spend it all!
Cardiff despite having 5 winding up orders were allowed to spend 110% of their income on wages - that is why lots of clubs are in trouble at that level - chasing the Premiership pay-off . Granted we may be doing that at a much reduced level in L1 - but if we stick to the FFP rules and wages are at 65% then there is no reason we can not take the extra £6,7,8m or whatever figure it may be and NOT spend it all! London Red
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9:47am Tue 8 Jan 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Caddis anywhere....

Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know.

I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently.
From Scunthorpe's last season in the CCC, they got around £4.4 mil tv money...

Your not alone in Bostock, I to would like to see him sign permanetly, ala Sir Wes...
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Caddis anywhere.... Wiz huge increase in television monies in the Championship. Sure London or someone else will let us know. I'm in the minority of one but really hoping we sign Bostock permanently.[/p][/quote]From Scunthorpe's last season in the CCC, they got around £4.4 mil tv money... Your not alone in Bostock, I to would like to see him sign permanetly, ala Sir Wes... STFCman&boy1973
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10:20am Tue 8 Jan 13

Psychedelic Syd says...

Bostock on a permanent contract for me too although I would also like to see Hollands come too. Miller and Navarro are past their best and we need to think of the future, hopefully in the Championship. Ferry, Bostock and Hollands would give us 3 excellent midfield players capable of playing at that level.
Bostock on a permanent contract for me too although I would also like to see Hollands come too. Miller and Navarro are past their best and we need to think of the future, hopefully in the Championship. Ferry, Bostock and Hollands would give us 3 excellent midfield players capable of playing at that level. Psychedelic Syd
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2:07pm Tue 8 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Wonder if Bostock wants to be here if he can't get into the side other than for late substitute appearances?
Wonder if Bostock wants to be here if he can't get into the side other than for late substitute appearances? Oi Den!
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