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Calne couple terrorised by teenagers
A CALNE couple who say their neighbourhood is being terrorised by teenagers believe moving house may be their only option.
Sandra and David Jackson, who live in Belstaff Court, off Newcroft Gardens, said a toddlers' play area is being abused by local youths who sit on the swings, swear and engage in anti-social behaviour.
Mrs Jackson, 61, said: "The area only opened properly in December, we knew it was going to be here when we bought the house.
"But we thought it would be more of a green area and we now realise that it will never be used in the way it was designed, for children and their parents."
Mrs Jackson said youths ranging from 12 to 16 years old ride their bikes up and down the slide and have even poured petrol over a neighbour's front door.
She said the play area is so close to some of the homes that people feel as if their space is being intruded upon.
She said: "My husband is on medication and he just doesn't need this.
"I have spoken to the kids and suggested that maybe they should move on but I haven't confronted them.
"I wouldn't because you never know what will happen."
The couple bought the home to spend their retirement in two years ago, and often have their five-year-old granddaughter to stay.
Mrs Jackson said: "She won't go outside on her own to the play area after 4pm as that's when all the youths come down and gather there.
"When they stand up on the slide they can see right into our living room window and they make obscene gestures.
"That's the last thing you want your young grandchild to see."
Mr Jackson told his wife their only option might be moving from the area, as the couple believe things can only get worse as the summer approaches.
They have contacted police but said officers were treating it as a low priority.
Mrs Jackson said: "A lot of our neighbours feel the same way as us.
"They are feeling scared about going out because they don't want to be confronted by this gang of young people."
Inspector Gavin Williams said: "From my point of view we take any complaints of anti-social behaviour very seriously and we have already taken a number of positive steps which have had an impact in the area.
"I will be administering a member of the neighbourhood policing team to investigate these problems."
8:42am Monday 25th February 2008
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CommentPosted by: spooks, calne on 9:02am Mon 25 Feb 08
whats the point of moving them on.they will create trouble else where.
calne does have a problem with kids running amock.
and it is time that the council and the police sort it out.
and the parents of the kids should be ashamed of there selfs.
www.calnetalk.com
whats the point of moving them on.they will create trouble else where.
calne does have a problem with kids running amock.
and it is time that the council and the police sort it out.
and the parents of the kids should be ashamed of there selfs.
www.calnetalk.com
Posted by: kathy27, calne on 9:35am Wed 27 Feb 08
"I will be administering a member of the neighbourhood policing team to investigate these problems."
So they are going to send a pretend policeman to investigate.
Its about time the real police took charge and removed these little s**ts off the streets, if they are under-age fine the parents for not having control.
"I will be administering a member of the neighbourhood policing team to investigate these problems."
So they are going to send a pretend policeman to investigate.
Its about time the real police took charge and removed these little s**ts off the streets, if they are under-age fine the parents for not having control.
Posted by: mE, calne on 11:27am Wed 27 Feb 08
well said kathy i couldn't agree more
well said kathy i couldn't agree more
Posted by: Grumpy, Swindon on 3:17am Fri 29 Feb 08
[quote][bold]spooks[/bold] wrote:
whats the point of moving them on.they will create trouble else where. calne does have a problem with kids running amock. and it is time that the council and the police sort it out. and the parents of the kids should be ashamed of there selfs. www.calnetalk.com[/quote] It's not only around the town they are causing problems. Just look at the dreadful discipline at the John bentley School and you'll see where a lot of the problems stem from - ask some of the teachers there and hear what they have got to say! Despite what reports have said it's not all sweetness and light at the school.
spooks wrote:
whats the point of moving them on.they will create trouble else where. calne does have a problem with kids running amock. and it is time that the council and the police sort it out. and the parents of the kids should be ashamed of there selfs. www.calnetalk.com
It's not only around the town they are causing problems. Just look at the dreadful discipline at the John bentley School and you'll see where a lot of the problems stem from - ask some of the teachers there and hear what they have got to say! Despite what reports have said it's not all sweetness and light at the school.
Posted by: Brian Heath, Calne on 1:56pm Fri 29 Feb 08
"Grumpy, Swindon" should not blame the John Bentley School for any lack of discipline. The blame lies squarely with the policitally correct stance of various governments, in this and other countries, who have decided in their wisdom that a child's "human rights" will be abused if he or she is subjected to any form of discipline, be it physical (still the most effective method) or verbal. Even discipline by example can upset some people - not that the young people who are the subject of this story are likely to get much of an example at home! The right of a parent or a teacher to punish a child has been eroded to the point where any such action could become the subject of litigation or even criminal proceedings - a ludicrous situation. How are children ever going to learn how to behave properly if their inappropriate behaviour cannot be pointed out to them and punished where necessary?
The John Bentley School is no worse than any other school of its type and size, and in fact it is a great deal better than most. My own two children went there a generation ago, and seem to have turned out fine, and I now have two grandchildren there, both doing very well; the simple fact is that if a child is encouraged at home to go to school and take full advantage of it, then that child will learn and will behave, whereas a child whose parents neither know nor care what their offspring do, at shcool or anywhere else, will have no incentive to learn and will be a disruptive influence on those who do. And there is precious little the school (or the police, for that matter) can do about it - their hands are tied firmly at their sides by policitcal correctness.
"Grumpy, Swindon" should not blame the John Bentley School for any lack of discipline. The blame lies squarely with the policitally correct stance of various governments, in this and other countries, who have decided in their wisdom that a child's "human rights" will be abused if he or she is subjected to any form of discipline, be it physical (still the most effective method) or verbal. Even discipline by example can upset some people - not that the young people who are the subject of this story are likely to get much of an example at home! The right of a parent or a teacher to punish a child has been eroded to the point where any such action could become the subject of litigation or even criminal proceedings - a ludicrous situation. How are children ever going to learn how to behave properly if their inappropriate behaviour cannot be pointed out to them and punished where necessary?
The John Bentley School is no worse than any other school of its type and size, and in fact it is a great deal better than most. My own two children went there a generation ago, and seem to have turned out fine, and I now have two grandchildren there, both doing very well; the simple fact is that if a child is encouraged at home to go to school and take full advantage of it, then that child will learn and will behave, whereas a child whose parents neither know nor care what their offspring do, at shcool or anywhere else, will have no incentive to learn and will be a disruptive influence on those who do. And there is precious little the school (or the police, for that matter) can do about it - their hands are tied firmly at their sides by policitcal correctness.
Posted by: The Maxter, Chippenham on 2:20pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Unfortunately its the same the country over. Play areas such as this are inhabited nightly by 'Hooded undead' who rise and loiter like a clip from Micheal Jacksons 'Thriller' Video. Shortly the area will be vandalised by the same braindead teenagers who occupy it and removed, thus perpetuating the excuse that 'they have nowhere to go'
I have an idea. lets all us adults get there at 6pm tonight, with a portable barbecue, bottle of wine and a dansette playing some Perry Como. The little shit5 won't know whats hit them.
Unfortunately its the same the country over. Play areas such as this are inhabited nightly by 'Hooded undead' who rise and loiter like a clip from Micheal Jacksons 'Thriller' Video. Shortly the area will be vandalised by the same braindead teenagers who occupy it and removed, thus perpetuating the excuse that 'they have nowhere to go'
I have an idea. lets all us adults get there at 6pm tonight, with a portable barbecue, bottle of wine and a dansette playing some Perry Como. The little shit5 won't know whats hit them.
Posted by: spooks, calne on 2:25pm Fri 29 Feb 08
i would agree that all schools are as bad.
i went to john bentley the disapline then was absolute crap .
i had heard that they had improved a great deal.
children now in schools and life have nothing to be afraid of.
in the law what is the worst thing a adult do?
shout at you .parents will not smack there kids,teachers no longer cane,and policemen do not have the respect that they derserve.
www.calnetalk.com
i would agree that all schools are as bad.
i went to john bentley the disapline then was absolute crap .
i had heard that they had improved a great deal.
children now in schools and life have nothing to be afraid of.
in the law what is the worst thing a adult do?
shout at you .parents will not smack there kids,teachers no longer cane,and policemen do not have the respect that they derserve.
www.calnetalk.com
Posted by: xcalneresident, berkshire on 9:42pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?
Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?
Posted by: oap67, calne on 2:11pm Sat 1 Mar 08
maybe at the next elections we need to vote in a more disaplinary party to change this PC country and give the towns back to the adults not their kids and allow corpral punisment ,,never did me any hame but taught me to respet adults ,at this moment in time I have a idiot about 14 riding a motercycle up and down the road no helmet and i expect no insurance or lience,tell the police ,,ha no point
maybe at the next elections we need to vote in a more disaplinary party to change this PC country and give the towns back to the adults not their kids and allow corpral punisment ,,never did me any hame but taught me to respet adults ,at this moment in time I have a idiot about 14 riding a motercycle up and down the road no helmet and i expect no insurance or lience,tell the police ,,ha no point
Posted by: kathy27, calne on 8:28pm Sat 1 Mar 08
Could some one please explain to me why the school should be responsible for disiplining the little s***s, surley its down to the parents! And if their little darlings are out getting into trouble, fine the parents, and keep doing it untill they can control them!!
and oap67... we had mini moto's riding up and down our road, your right there is no point in calling the police so my hubby kicked one off his beloved bike as he went past for the 20th time....funny though none of them ride around here any more :-)
Could some one please explain to me why the school should be responsible for disiplining the little s***s, surley its down to the parents! And if their little darlings are out getting into trouble, fine the parents, and keep doing it untill they can control them!!
and oap67... we had mini moto's riding up and down our road, your right there is no point in calling the police so my hubby kicked one off his beloved bike as he went past for the 20th time....funny though none of them ride around here any more :-)
Posted by: kathy27, calne on 8:29pm Sat 1 Mar 08
Could some one please explain to me why the school should be responsible for disiplining the little s***s, surley its down to the parents! And if their little darlings are out getting into trouble, fine the parents, and keep doing it untill they can control them!!
and oap67... we had mini moto's riding up and down our road, your right there is no point in calling the police so my hubby kicked one off his beloved bike as he went past for the 20th time....funny though none of them ride around here any more :-)
Could some one please explain to me why the school should be responsible for disiplining the little s***s, surley its down to the parents! And if their little darlings are out getting into trouble, fine the parents, and keep doing it untill they can control them!!
and oap67... we had mini moto's riding up and down our road, your right there is no point in calling the police so my hubby kicked one off his beloved bike as he went past for the 20th time....funny though none of them ride around here any more :-)
Posted by: TC, Town Centre, Chippenham on 2:37pm Sun 2 Mar 08
[quote][bold]xcalneresident[/bold] wrote:
Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?[/quote] That is one of the best singular comments I've ever read on this site. The Dog Borstal ref is so true (Dog Whisperer is even more accurate too). Good post.
xcalneresident wrote:
Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?
That is one of the best singular comments I've ever read on this site. The Dog Borstal ref is so true (Dog Whisperer is even more accurate too). Good post.
Posted by: smiley, calne on 5:05pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Im sorry 'Grumpy' from Swindon but before you start on schools in Calne you need to take a good look at the schools in your own town, so John Bentley might have some tear aways but multiply that 100 and you have a typical Swindon school. As for the school being responsible for kids when they are out and about is absolute rubbish, where are their parents?!
Im sorry 'Grumpy' from Swindon but before you start on schools in Calne you need to take a good look at the schools in your own town, so John Bentley might have some tear aways but multiply that 100 and you have a typical Swindon school. As for the school being responsible for kids when they are out and about is absolute rubbish, where are their parents?!
Posted by: Grumpy, Swindon on 9:21am Wed 5 Mar 08
[quote][bold]smiley[/bold] wrote:
Im sorry 'Grumpy' from Swindon but before you start on schools in Calne you need to take a good look at the schools in your own town, so John Bentley might have some tear aways but multiply that 100 and you have a typical Swindon school. As for the school being responsible for kids when they are out and about is absolute rubbish, where are their parents?! [/quote] The report was about Calne, not Swindon, which is why I made references to the John Bentley School, because that is relevant to Calne. Had the article been about Swindon youths, then I may have made references regarding Swindon school's.
Intimating that Swindon scools are 100 times worse than John Bentley shows you have little knowledge of schools in Calne or Swindon.
As to you saying I suggested the school should be responsible for kids behaviour out of school is rubbish. Perhaps you can highlight the part in my original post as to where I said that.
Next time you try to bring me to task, I suggest you carefully read what I have written before making false accusations against me.
My original comments stand ie the discipline at John Bentley is rubbish, which, together with poor parenting etc all adds to the troubles with youths in Calne. The fact I now live in Swindon doesn't stop me having views about Calne and it's many problems.
smiley wrote:
Im sorry 'Grumpy' from Swindon but before you start on schools in Calne you need to take a good look at the schools in your own town, so John Bentley might have some tear aways but multiply that 100 and you have a typical Swindon school. As for the school being responsible for kids when they are out and about is absolute rubbish, where are their parents?!
The report was about Calne, not Swindon, which is why I made references to the John Bentley School, because that is relevant to Calne. Had the article been about Swindon youths, then I may have made references regarding Swindon school's.
Intimating that Swindon scools are 100 times worse than John Bentley shows you have little knowledge of schools in Calne or Swindon.
As to you saying I suggested the school should be responsible for kids behaviour out of school is rubbish. Perhaps you can highlight the part in my original post as to where I said that.
Next time you try to bring me to task, I suggest you carefully read what I have written before making false accusations against me.
My original comments stand ie the discipline at John Bentley is rubbish, which, together with poor parenting etc all adds to the troubles with youths in Calne. The fact I now live in Swindon doesn't stop me having views about Calne and it's many problems.
Posted by: xcalneresident, berkshire on 11:33pm Fri 7 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TC[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]xcalneresident[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?[/quote] That is one of the best singular comments I've ever read on this site. The Dog Borstal ref is so true (Dog Whisperer is even more accurate too). Good post.[/quote] Thank you very much, at last someone agrees with me!!!
Im not saying where we live now is perfect my any stretch of the imagination but the behaviour we witnessed in Calne is beyond belief. My son was witness in his classroom to parents physically fighting (thats a good example im sure)I was threatened with voilence by my neighbour whilst heavily pregnant by a member of a very well known family whose name begins with "Boot" and ends with "On" and my daughter was verbally abused (aged 5) by the same person. I was constantly clearing dog mess from my front garden left by the dogs belonging to the aformentioned as they just let them out when they came home from work at night as obviously walking them was too much trouble. I lost count of the amount of times i called the police to report drug dealing outside One-Stop at Lansdowne Park and criminal damage to my home. I also lost count of the amount of times myself and my kids watched someone "down" their methadone in the queue at Boots. Calne could have been really nice, its had a load of money chucked at it and more to come but while the authorities are tied by the Governements "under the carpet" attitude, there is no hope. You only get one chance to bring your kids up, so what if they hate you today for saying "no", they will still love you tomorrow and respect you a little bit more for actually making a stand and being a decent, consistant parent.
TC wrote:
xcalneresident wrote: Unfortunately Calne is on par with the back side of the earth. The majority of the schools, primary and secondary are poor or failing. The discipline at John Bentley is non existant. I made a complaint to the school regarding my 8 year old son having a bottle thrown at him in the "town" centre by some revolting group of ferel inbred "girls" when we lived there (i was present) and the school couldnt even be bothered to call me back!! The problem with Calne and many other places in the UK is that the neither the schools, parents or police are interested. The police cant be bothered to write up incidents so it is easier to pretend they are not happening than to actually get off their arses and do something. The school have so many kids there with major behavioual problems who belong to parents that couldnt care less that they are fighting a losing battle and the parents have given up all authority to their kids because they are scared of them. They have had a childhood of too many choices and being in control (we all know this makes for unhappy unruly children)and have now grown into unhappy, uncontrollable teenagers. If you watch "Dog Borstal" the principles are all the same, kids, as dogs need to understand pecking order and who makes the rules in order to behave. We left Calne partly due the fact that i couldnt bare to send my kids to John Bentley and I could no longer stand to witness the violent, aggresive and downright ferel behaviour that prevailled in the playground at Fynamore School. Unfortunately I am talking about the parents here - so what hope have the kids got?
That is one of the best singular comments I've ever read on this site. The Dog Borstal ref is so true (Dog Whisperer is even more accurate too). Good post.
Thank you very much, at last someone agrees with me!!!
Im not saying where we live now is perfect my any stretch of the imagination but the behaviour we witnessed in Calne is beyond belief. My son was witness in his classroom to parents physically fighting (thats a good example im sure)I was threatened with voilence by my neighbour whilst heavily pregnant by a member of a very well known family whose name begins with "Boot" and ends with "On" and my daughter was verbally abused (aged 5) by the same person. I was constantly clearing dog mess from my front garden left by the dogs belonging to the aformentioned as they just let them out when they came home from work at night as obviously walking them was too much trouble. I lost count of the amount of times i called the police to report drug dealing outside One-Stop at Lansdowne Park and criminal damage to my home. I also lost count of the amount of times myself and my kids watched someone "down" their methadone in the queue at Boots. Calne could have been really nice, its had a load of money chucked at it and more to come but while the authorities are tied by the Governements "under the carpet" attitude, there is no hope. You only get one chance to bring your kids up, so what if they hate you today for saying "no", they will still love you tomorrow and respect you a little bit more for actually making a stand and being a decent, consistant parent.
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