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Extremists target youth

2:18pm Thursday 21st February 2008

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EXTREME right wing political group the National Front has set up a youth group in Chippenham, despite huge opposition from schools and parents.

The group, whose conditions of membership include no homosexuals, must be of white parentage and partners must also be white', has already held two meetings in the town.

At the latest meeting on February 16, more than 25 youngsters from the age of 14 attended and awards were handed out to individuals for their work for the organisation.

When the Gazette broke the news of the National Front's arrival in Chippenham in September, schools were outraged that the party intended to hand out leaflets at the gates to attract young members.

Gerard MacMahon, head teacher at Sheldon School, said: "I am confident that our pupils would not have any involvement with an organisation which is involved in the stirring or spreading of hate.

"At the school we would have nothing to do with an organisation like that - Sheldon will have nothing to do with them.

"As an immigrant myself, I am not at all interested in what they have got to say."

News that the party has managed to establish a youth group in town has come as a shock to many. Mum-of-two teenagers Emma Fitzwarren, 44, of Eastern Avenue said: "I think it is totally disgusting they have infiltrated the town - why have people even given them the time of day?

"I have warned my children about getting involved with the racists and I know they would never be sucked into it.

"I am now just concerned about other children. They might feel pressured to join and that could lead to horrendous consequences. I plead with all parents to make sure their children are not involved."

A spokesman for Wiltshire College said: "We are an inclusive organisation and we would be very concerned about any association with groups who do not share our values, particularly those who would seek to discriminate against groups or individuals."

Steve Reynolds, executive member of the National Front, said: "Many issues arose, one on their safety and their fears of being attacked by others. Some expressed concern for their elderly relatives, claiming they had been failed by the system and others in the community. We also touched on the closure of Lacock Post Office."


Your Say YourThe Wiltshire Gazette and Herald

grumpyoldcynic, Chippenham says...
7:20pm Thu 21 Feb 08

The naivety and complacency of some parents never ceases to amaze me. These parents, whose children apparently would 'never be sucked into' any extremist views need to engage, with their children, with the National Front and argue out the issues. My vote goes to the UK Independence Party but I would listen carefully to the National Front and seek to demolish their extreme views as an open debate rather than a dismissive gesture. We need to spell out absolutely explicitly to our children precisely the abhorrence of unacceptable racist views, and yet explain and support a pride in our national culture, beliefs and way of life that may seem to young people in danger of being undermined by external influences over which we appear to have little control.

who dat?, says...
8:51pm Thu 21 Feb 08

As the Robber McBroon increasingly dismantles this once great country,the opposition in the form of the flim-flam Lib Dems and the invisible "Call me Dave"'s blue party say and do nothing of substance.Is it any wonder that those who would seek to redress the balance come to the forefront!

Godfrey, little horton says...
10:00pm Thu 21 Feb 08

What horrendous consequences? To be honest I don't think the NF holds a greater danger for youngsters than rap culture. The organisation in France has seven MEPs.It's a legal organisation even in the totalitarian regime in this country and there are worse things for youngsters to be involved in. The article is trying to stir up hysteria and the same people would most probably be saying the same things even if it were the more moderate BNP that was in question. Why not speak to the youngsters themselves?

Godfrey, little horton says...
10:06pm Thu 21 Feb 08

Why is it that we're supposed to be a democracy and yet we're taught through the media to regard legal parties as "infiltrating"? Do the Labour and Conservative party not "infiltrate" our communities in that inflammatory term of reference? Or is it just some parties are permitted and others aren't?

TC, Chippenham says...
10:15pm Thu 21 Feb 08

A tedious non story where there isn't one, next article please.

donteventhinkit, Corsham says...
12:24am Fri 22 Feb 08

These people making the press against this youth group are without realising doing exactly the same thing as the NF. Yes its not race based but they are condemning people on the basis of belief.Judge not less you yourself be judged that said VOTE BNP

chipper, chippenham says...
11:20am Fri 22 Feb 08

So a legal political party opens a youth group in Chippenham. Wow, shock horror. We've no doubt got young members group of other political parties, so where's the problem.

We keep getting told how intelligent the youth of today are, surely they can make their own mind up as to whether they wish to believe and follow what any political party has to say.

Can't say the NF would get my vote, but there again the Lib-Lab-Con only offers a limited choice, so at least give people the chance to find out for themselves.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
7:56pm Fri 22 Feb 08

grumpyoldcynic wrote:
The naivety and complacency of some parents never ceases to amaze me. These parents, whose children apparently would 'never be sucked into' any extremist views need to engage, with their children, with the National Front and argue out the issues. My vote goes to the UK Independence Party but I would listen carefully to the National Front and seek to demolish their extreme views as an open debate rather than a dismissive gesture. We need to spell out absolutely explicitly to our children precisely the abhorrence of unacceptable racist views, and yet explain and support a pride in our national culture, beliefs and way of life that may seem to young people in danger of being undermined by external influences over which we appear to have little control.
That makes a refreshing change from the stance usually taken by our opposition that usually goes something like:

NO PLATFORM FOR THESE NAZIS!

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
8:06pm Fri 22 Feb 08

donteventhinkit wrote:
These people making the press against this youth group are without realising doing exactly the same thing as the NF. Yes its not race based but they are condemning people on the basis of belief.Judge not less you yourself be judged that said VOTE BNP
OK, but we are not the same party as the BNP as some people seem to be confused about.

When the Gazette broke the news of the National Front's arrival in Chippenham in September, schools were outraged that the party intended to hand out leaflets at the gates to attract young member


We never said we where going to hand out leaflets at school gates, the press fabricated that.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
9:24pm Fri 22 Feb 08

I wonder if the immigrant MacMahon would have been so vocal had this story, I say story due to the extraordinary amount of fiction contained within, would have been about Islamic extremism? You know, the real and deadly extremism that resides on these isles.

We would be lucky to get him out of the staff room.

NF, Not Far says...
4:12pm Sun 24 Feb 08

Can I say that I am a student at Sheldon School and a proud supporter of the YNF. We have been told about the YNF at school and told all bad things. Its not that bad...I can assure you. One of our teachers alleged that Mr MacMahon is not allowed to teach us his personal political views, and others are starting to join us now. I am fair and like 'freedom of speech,' unlike some: Have a look at this, interesting, half way down the bottom of the page.

http://www.transform
inglives.org.uk/worl
d.php

Stan, Beckenham says...
8:03pm Sun 24 Feb 08

This would all be well and good (and terrifying) if the Gazette had actually been to the meeting.

Instead this is a poor case of journalism. The NF have a tiny membership and most of the comments on here are from their tiny membership who have been instructed to leave messages.

I'm afraid this is poor journalism, not the growth of a tiny, insignificant (thought nasty) organisation, but someone repeating verbatim a press relase designed to get the NF front page news.

I should know, I was a member once and the NF only exists in the minds of small time newspapers and the few freaks still in the party.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
3:56am Mon 25 Feb 08

Stan wrote:
This would all be well and good (and terrifying) if the Gazette had actually been to the meeting. Instead this is a poor case of journalism. The NF have a tiny membership and most of the comments on here are from their tiny membership who have been instructed to leave messages. I'm afraid this is poor journalism, not the growth of a tiny, insignificant (thought nasty) organisation, but someone repeating verbatim a press relase designed to get the NF front page news. I should know, I was a member once and the NF only exists in the minds of small time newspapers and the few freaks still in the party.
lol, what would you know about the size of the NF today? Have you ever been an executive member? Ever had access to the membership list have you Stan?

When was you ever a member Stan? Ut hasnt been in the last 3 years that i have been the regional organiser because i dont even know you.

Stan, Beckenham says...
10:11am Mon 25 Feb 08

You had 19 people on your national "parade", which was in fact a shuffle along the pavement. Who needas more proof than that?

If you can provide a picture of this amazing meeting you had (or if the paper could) that would be proof.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
4:06pm Mon 25 Feb 08

I think i know this moronic individual. He posts on "Stormfront White Nationalist Community" under the name "fraser". He has never been an NF member, he is a BNP member and constantly bugs NF members for photos of meetings, parades and events, particularly the YNF, probably so he can send them to ANTIFA and get them beaten up by a gang whilst they are walking the streets alone.

He has never been a member of the NF and just followed the newslink posted on Stormfront.

So fraser, which National Parade only had 19 members?

There was much more than that at the St Georges Day parades, Remembrance Day parade, Islamic Extremist Counter Demo (Downing Street) and the 40th Anniversary meeting.

Unlike the last BNP meeting in Grimsby which was 10 months ago and only 7 people turned up, (figure coming from a guy i know who was 1 of the 7)

So where are you getting your figures from fraser?

TC, Town Centre, Chippenham says...
6:43pm Mon 25 Feb 08

but it's all so dull and terribly pointless.

Stan, Beckenham says...
11:51pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Sadly (but not surprisingly) the mental dwarf that is the NF has retarded itself into oblivious sectarianism.

Not only do I not post on Stormfront, I am one of the anti-paedophilism/gr
ooming crowd that asks for it to be closed down.

Teenagers quoting it as some kind of (bi polorised) source is one of the more worrying reasons why we demand it should be closed.


I would applaud any NUT member that could take in hand this frustrated oik and point out the error of his/her ways, because I do feel that even the most blatant ignoramus could see a pre-pubescent struggling with the weight of the argument before them.

So; I am asking you to show this mental dwarf some considertation:

The Jewsih/Communist magazine Searchlight has for a long time run this small group of spotty teenagers, encouraging them to spout useless nonsense on forums such as this to discredit the "movement".

They had 19 people on their national parade to the cenotaph, and were also beaten to a pulp by Gay Pride marchers in Brighton in the midst of last year.

That such an idiot should be their only poster on here is a fair explanation of why the NF feel that because they stand in a group of crowded shoppers with their pubic flags hidden under their school stachels, is apparently evidence of a mass movement.

I challenge again, either the spotty dwarves of the NF or this very paper, to prove that such a meeting of such gravity even went ahead
as reported.

It is a sad, sorry tale of GCSE papers too, that young people with no grip on histroy or their place in it, should spend their time on here and not with a member of the opposite sex.

I do wish this young Nutzi would get out of his/her bedroom and get a life, before some old aged pensioned dwarf on an Asbo gets release to run them again.


Stan, Beckenham says...
12:03am Tue 26 Feb 08

If my kid were in the NF I would call the cops to see exacly who it was with access to my kids.


SwindonNF, Swindon says...
4:42am Tue 26 Feb 08

Stan wrote:
Sadly (but not surprisingly) the mental dwarf that is the NF has retarded itself into oblivious sectarianism. Not only do I not post on Stormfront, I am one of the anti-paedophilism/gr ooming crowd that asks for it to be closed down. Teenagers quoting it as some kind of (bi polorised) source is one of the more worrying reasons why we demand it should be closed. I would applaud any NUT member that could take in hand this frustrated oik and point out the error of his/her ways, because I do feel that even the most blatant ignoramus could see a pre-pubescent struggling with the weight of the argument before them. So; I am asking you to show this mental dwarf some considertation: The Jewsih/Communist magazine Searchlight has for a long time run this small group of spotty teenagers, encouraging them to spout useless nonsense on forums such as this to discredit the "movement". They had 19 people on their national parade to the cenotaph, and were also beaten to a pulp by Gay Pride marchers in Brighton in the midst of last year. That such an idiot should be their only poster on here is a fair explanation of why the NF feel that because they stand in a group of crowded shoppers with their pubic flags hidden under their school stachels, is apparently evidence of a mass movement. I challenge again, either the spotty dwarves of the NF or this very paper, to prove that such a meeting of such gravity even went ahead as reported. It is a sad, sorry tale of GCSE papers too, that young people with no grip on histroy or their place in it, should spend their time on here and not with a member of the opposite sex. I do wish this young Nutzi would get out of his/her bedroom and get a life, before some old aged pensioned dwarf on an Asbo gets release to run them again.
Definition of the word "Nutzi"! = a word used on the stormfront forum, invented by the BNP leadership to alienate anyone who does not agree with them. It is a word used by mainly the more moronic element of the BNP.

Ladies and Gentlemen. I beg of you to go and look at the stormfront.org forum and search for a poster calling himself "fraser". You will see that he is a living reason that you should not vote for the BNP.

The Maxter, Chippenham says...
12:21pm Fri 29 Feb 08

Ahh The NF and BNP are at it again. Both sets of supporters are one step from the playground. The demise of the NF is set against the 'rise' (if you can call it that) of the BNP. The juvenile urinating contest in which they engage, is the biggest reason not to vote for either of them.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
3:14pm Fri 29 Feb 08

The Maxter wrote:
Ahh The NF and BNP are at it again. Both sets of supporters are one step from the playground. The demise of the NF is set against the 'rise' (if you can call it that) of the BNP. The juvenile urinating contest in which they engage, is the biggest reason not to vote for either of them.
Oh yes The Maxter (Or is that The Marxist?)

People shouldnt vote NF or BNP due to their disagreements.

Forget issues such as Bringing home our troops, Poor education standards, Mass immigration, Asylum Seekers, The number of people dependant on drugs, Rapists being allowed back onto the streets, internet paedophiles getting let off with a slap on the wrist, British people being put to the back of the queue for everything and every other issue that the NF want to address.

The British people should vote Labour, CONservative or Lib Dem, because they dont disagree on things do they?


That has got to be one of the worst attempts at a smear that i have ever seen.

The Maxter, Chippenham says...
11:24am Mon 3 Mar 08

They disagree generally on the issues that matter, as opposed to a feud regarding each others existence. However if I were to be kind, then I would applaud your antidote to nodding dog politics - a shame then you taint it, with behavior that is one step from the playground.

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
12:09pm Mon 3 Mar 08

The Maxter wrote:
They disagree generally on the issues that matter, as opposed to a feud regarding each others existence. However if I were to be kind, then I would applaud your antidote to nodding dog politics - a shame then you taint it, with behavior that is one step from the playground.
just about every political party disagrees on issues that matter and have their own vision of how they will deal with these issues.

Thats what politics is all about.

I point out that it was Stan, Beckenham (AKA fraser from Stormfront.org) who registered to this news website especially for this story and it was him that came here and started being pathetic.

I am a regular poster on this news site. Just check the archives for any National Front related stories and you will find i have been posting here for quiete a while.

Funnily enough, this is the first story i have seen you comment on, "The Marxist". Are you another one who registered especially for this story?

The Maxter, Chippenham says...
12:40pm Mon 3 Mar 08

No, I've been posting for well over a year! Have a look for BNP leafleting calne, thats probably up your street. But I've commented on a few shaggy dog stories too - for what its worth :-)

SwindonNF, Swindon says...
1:35pm Mon 3 Mar 08

I just found the story. I had to lol at how going out leafletting actually got them a news story. It happens every weekend, the length and breadth of the country by just about every registered political party.

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