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BNP leafleting in Calne
3:43pm Friday 14th December 2007
Comments (56)NATIONALIST party the BNP have been leafleting homes across Calne as part of a massive campaign.
Furious residents complained to police after the far right party pushed propaganda through their door.
The leaflet claims that robberies, muggings and sexual assaults are on the up across the country.
It reads: "While the police are sat at the side of the motorway or in political correctness classes the real criminals are free to wreck decent peoples' lives.
"A wave of anti social behaviour is sweeping our streets and estates with a minority of rowdy youths making life unpleasant for the law abiding majority."
Landlord of The Kings Arm in Calne Richard Snell said: "The BNP have picked an electoral stance to become more attractive to the electorate and get more people involved.
"They are not showing their true colours."
Deputy sector head for Chippenham, Corsham and Calne Sgt Steve Cox said: "Wiltshire Police is a non political organisation.
"However we are aware of certain information which has been circulating within Calne.
"We would like to reassure the public that we have a visible presence policing the town 24 hours each day, this is in addition to the neighbourhood policing teams based at Calne police station."
BNP member Robert Baggs said the leafleting was part of a town wide campaign and not related to the upcoming by election.
He said: "We had decided to do a big campaign in Calne. The leaflet was a deliberate choice as people are concerned with the level of crime in Calne.
"We want to tell people we provide answers to some of these problems. We are not frightened of tackling the issues other parties shy away from."
After UKIP councillor Jill Martin resigned people in Calne called for a by election.
Mr Baggs would not confirm he will be running for BNP and it is rumoured former councillor Ellie Bland will stand for the Lickhill seat.
Mad hatter Geoff Brown will stand for the green party.
Your Say YourThe Wiltshire Gazette and Herald
me, calne says...
5:08pm Fri 14 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
7:14pm Fri 14 Dec 07
me wrote:i would also like to have one .
can i have one please , southside delivery please
i would love for the bnp to come in to power and those people who say they are nothing but racists and crap like that should read what they stand for .
most people want the same thing at least the bnp has the balls to publicly say it.
awake, wiltshire says...
7:26pm Fri 14 Dec 07
kathy27, calne says...
7:35pm Fri 14 Dec 07
andy30, London says...
7:40pm Fri 14 Dec 07
walter, wilshur says...
4:44am Sat 15 Dec 07
Mitch Hawkins, Wiltshire says...
10:20am Sat 15 Dec 07
me, calne says...
11:46am Sat 15 Dec 07
kathy27, calne says...
1:41pm Sat 15 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
2:30pm Sat 15 Dec 07
kathy27 wrote:the trouble dosnt just stem from the council houses.
I do too, its just afew stupid idoits that ruin it for everyone else.
but i do agree with kathy.
www.calnetalk.com
walter, wilshur says...
6:39am Sun 16 Dec 07
Yali, Ex-Melksham says...
1:58pm Sun 16 Dec 07
kathy27, calne says...
5:24pm Sun 16 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
1:44pm Mon 17 Dec 07
he would have come on here him self but it seems they have been stopped coming on here.
Tkae a good read at it and it shows the truth behind this artice how the gazette has portrayed the bnp is disgusting,
http://robertbaggs.b
logspot.com/
www.calnetalk.com
donteventhinkit, Corsham says...
1:54pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Don, Devizes says...
4:42pm Mon 17 Dec 07
kathy27 wrote:Out of interest, why is "do gooder" an insult? Surely most of us want to "do good". Just wondering.
The problem is the "do gooders" stopping parents from smacking their kids. Ive got 3 kids they all had a smack when they were naughty, also if i had another child now, it would also get a smack when naughty, regardless pc.
awake, wiltshire says...
5:00pm Mon 17 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
6:23pm Mon 17 Dec 07
donteventhinkit when the bnp got in in corsham didnt people stage protests?
bet theve changed there tune now.
Don, Devizes says...
8:37am Tue 18 Dec 07
spooks wrote:Yes, it is amazing. I find it quite astounding.
its amazing how many support the bnp.I would love for them to get in control of calne. donteventhinkit when the bnp got in in corsham didnt people stage protests? bet theve changed there tune now.
Rowdey, Rowde says...
1:33pm Tue 18 Dec 07
I thought the Gazette was supposed to be neutral about politics
Don't know why you thought that. No serious paper I know of, is politically neutral, they usually have an axe to grind. If you don't like the politics you have two choices and only one is cheap. Don't read the paper or buy the whole paper and change the political slant.
George27, calne says...
8:47am Wed 19 Dec 07
One thing did make me chuckle, and i quote,"we have a visible presence policing the town 24 hours each day" - if this is the case, why does it take on average well over 20mins from calling the police before someone arrives?
Anyone proactive in sorting out the criminal element gets my vote, its long overdue.
rosco, Chippenham says...
12:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
George27 wrote:Based on what do you say it takes 20 mins? I've never called them so cannot say how long they take, have you called them out so many times you can quote an average like this? And for what?
....just out of interest, so who were these "furious residents"??? - those that think that there aren't any problems that need to be tackled?
One thing did make me chuckle, and i quote,"we have a visible presence policing the town 24 hours each day" - if this is the case, why does it take on average well over 20mins from calling the police before someone arrives?
Anyone proactive in sorting out the criminal element gets my vote, its long overdue.
donteventhinkit, Corsham says...
1:15pm Wed 19 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
2:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
donteventhinkit wrote:The news made out that much of corsham was in arms against it.
Spooks yes there where protests in corsham over the bnp but its little known that they bused in protesters from as far away as bristol for those protests most people where not overly bothered.Personally i was happy they believe in giving us back our streets and sense of community no matter what that community is made up of and after all is that not what we all want?
People want not only the sence of community but also great britian back.
we need to worry about are belifes are culture insted of worrying all about other people.
They need to close the borders are country cn not cope are schools are being over run are hospitals has not not got anough money.
if people would look at the bnp and not listen to all the crap whats sprouted about them they would see that not only is the bnp a good party but what they belive in is what what is on most peoples minds.the difference is the bnp has the balls to come out and say it.and not hide behind all the pc crap.
www.calnetalk.com
George27, calne says...
6:27pm Wed 19 Dec 07
1. When my son and his friend got assaulted on their way home. (30 mins approx)
2. Some idiot that attempted to threatend me with a golf club (police didn't even show)
3. Countless times over bloody mini moto's (took care of it ourselves as they failed to respond)
...I could go on, but the police don't get called by us any more unless it is theft or serious assault. You a policeman per chance?
kathy27, calne says...
6:28pm Wed 19 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
11:01pm Wed 19 Dec 07
kathy27 wrote:calne are covered by melksham,chippenham and trowbridge police.
I was told by a control room operator that calne does not always have police covering calne anyway, so it would explain the time to attend a problem in calne if they have to come from say chippenham.
Don, Devizes says...
8:25am Thu 20 Dec 07
spooks wrote:And with you leaping to their defence, who could fail to support them.
donteventhinkit wrote: Spooks yes there where protests in corsham over the bnp but its little known that they bused in protesters from as far away as bristol for those protests most people where not overly bothered.Personally i was happy they believe in giving us back our streets and sense of community no matter what that community is made up of and after all is that not what we all want?The news made out that much of corsham was in arms against it. People want not only the sence of community but also great britian back. we need to worry about are belifes are culture insted of worrying all about other people. They need to close the borders are country cn not cope are schools are being over run are hospitals has not not got anough money. if people would look at the bnp and not listen to all the crap whats sprouted about them they would see that not only is the bnp a good party but what they belive in is what what is on most peoples minds.the difference is the bnp has the balls to come out and say it.and not hide behind all the pc crap. www.calnetalk.com
The Maxter, Chippenham says...
11:05am Thu 20 Dec 07
Not news, and indeed we provide more publicity for them if we treat it as such. The BNP must be laughing all the way to the ballot box, the only other party which comes close to getting such free coverage is the Tory party and James' bedhopping!!
Rowdey, Rowde says...
11:46am Thu 20 Dec 07
The BNP are a legitimate political party, if I agree with their views or not. They have a right to leaflet, and we have the right to ignore it, or vote for them.
Not news, and indeed we provide more publicity for them if we treat it as such. The BNP must be laughing all the way to the ballot box, the only other party which comes close to getting such free coverage is the Tory party and James' bedhopping!!
100% right.
joeydubya, leics says...
3:21pm Thu 20 Dec 07
You people are being played by this 'we're only thinking what you're thinking...' the Conservatives legitimately evoked this debate under Howard regarding difficult issues such as immigration and crime control. You were sceptical then, so why not now?!?
Entering into Europe, valid debate. Managing immigration, valid debate.
But the core fundamentals of BNP's beliefs; removing citizens of non-indigenous origin (peacefully or otherwise) is wrong. Recriminalising homosexuality. Capital punishment. Patriachy, likewise.
Sorry Robert, but I strongly disagree. You don't speak for me, and if more people took the time to pore over your manifesto, I would hope you wouldn't speak for them either. You can't just pick and choose a selective ideology. Hence the cliché; 'at least Hitler made the trains run on time...'
awake, wiltshire says...
6:40pm Thu 20 Dec 07
tyler durden, says...
7:57pm Thu 20 Dec 07
joeydubya wrote:Erm...... it was Benito Mussolini who made the trains run on time in Italy and nothing to do with Adolf Hitler.
What exactly verifies a political party? A manifesto? A few chairpersons? A few Union Jack balloons...? You people are being played by this 'we're only thinking what you're thinking...' the Conservatives legitimately evoked this debate under Howard regarding difficult issues such as immigration and crime control. You were sceptical then, so why not now?!? Entering into Europe, valid debate. Managing immigration, valid debate. But the core fundamentals of BNP's beliefs; removing citizens of non-indigenous origin (peacefully or otherwise) is wrong. Recriminalising homosexuality. Capital punishment. Patriachy, likewise. Sorry Robert, but I strongly disagree. You don't speak for me, and if more people took the time to pore over your manifesto, I would hope you wouldn't speak for them either. You can't just pick and choose a selective ideology. Hence the cliché; 'at least Hitler made the trains run on time...'
me, calne says...
10:50pm Thu 20 Dec 07
intheknow, west wilts says...
1:11am Fri 21 Dec 07
The Maxter, Chippenham says...
9:37am Fri 21 Dec 07
What exactly verifies a political party? A manifesto? A few chairpersons? A few Union Jack balloons...?
Never did the Tories any harm.
Don, Devizes says...
11:00am Fri 21 Dec 07
intheknow wrote:highlighting the fears
judging by the amount of posts on this story,most people want their country back.the bnp are only highlighting the fears of ordinary law abiding citizens.
That's the point. In fact they couldn't exist without fear. Which is why they stoke the fires.
And as for wanting the country back, well, that's not that easy, is it? Presumably people want it returned to a time before 'mass immigration'. So when's that? The 1950s? The early ninth century? The end of the Roman era?
How about we all try to get along? And, for that, I'm amongst the first to say that the onus is on the immigrants to integrate. But a Britain that sues all the talents it can get will be a stronger Britain. And maybe ebtter at cricket too.
joeydubya, leics says...
1:00pm Fri 21 Dec 07
I'd hate to be thought of as a scaremongering leftie, so I've had a peek at the BNP site and it seems the Police are taking on Polish Officers. So that'll cut the crime, won't it?
Hooray! Merry Winterval!
You'll have to explain to me why two massively diverse cities as Leicester and Birmingham have massive CHRISTMAS decorations this year another time.
#6, calne says...
1:25pm Fri 21 Dec 07
#6, calne says...
1:26pm Fri 21 Dec 07
joeydubya, leics says...
1:39pm Fri 21 Dec 07
Don, Devizes says...
2:35pm Fri 21 Dec 07
#6 wrote:You mean homo sapiens?
It said in the Daily Express today that the party had dropped the homo bit.
Dave, Wilts says...
8:48pm Sat 22 Dec 07
Most of the mongs who comment here are so typically, and for want of a better word(s), hillybilly/ 'send 'em home'/we want our empire back brigade.
Perhaps b4 they praise up the bnp/NF as they do on this site so often they should take a little time to look at the darker side of their ethos.
Little Englanders...i laugh at you.
From a proud englishman who hates what people like them would have the country become...Daily Mail/Express land.
me, calne says...
11:28am Sun 23 Dec 07
intheknow, west wilts says...
2:38pm Sun 23 Dec 07
Don, Devizes says...
11:31pm Wed 26 Dec 07
intheknow wrote:I can.
why do people turn to the bnp? because the issues that matter to people are ignored by the mainsteam parties.it's nothing to do with being a little englander.nobody can deny this country is going downhill fast.
The Maxter, Chippenham says...
2:57am Fri 28 Dec 07
Mongs/Mongoloid/Down
s Syndrome.
Stunning observation Dave, I'll let you stew in your ignorance and embarrassment.
awake, wiltshire says...
10:50am Fri 28 Dec 07
Joe, Calne says...
9:02pm Fri 28 Dec 07
spooks, calne says...
9:45pm Fri 28 Dec 07
Joe wrote:its a dam good start
There may be alot of issues in this country that need dealing with but the BNP are hardly a credible solution they are just a fringe party who occassionally like now get some attention.
www.calnetalk.com
walter, wilshur says...
7:02am Sat 29 Dec 07
awake wrote:Oh you wicked person! The PC brigade will go mad, hearing a criticism of the poor deprived little sh*ts, sorry, teenagers, who have nothing to do except vandalise other people's property and assault passers-by. It is so frustrating to read that not too many years ago, they'd have been swinging on the local gallows!
Don from Devizes writes that he can deny the country is going downhill fast. Well, Don, you must be in a lovely little bubble! You obviously havent tried to get a doctors appointment lately or needed treatment in hospital -otherwise that might have given you an inkling!! Think of all the unfortunate people living on large council estates where uncontrolled teens riot and nothing is done to protect the tennants.
Joe, Calne says...
9:47pm Sat 29 Dec 07
What have they actually proposed or done?
Its very well identifying problems thats easy!
What about comming up with sensible workable solutions. Thats somewhat harder
Disgusted of, Westbury says...
12:27pm Mon 7 Jan 08
kathy27 wrote:Maybe someone should give you a bloody good smack for hitting kids?
The problem is the "do gooders" stopping parents from smacking their kids. Ive got 3 kids they all had a smack when they were naughty, also if i had another child now, it would also get a smack when naughty, regardless pc.
moonraker3, Calne says...
10:20am Wed 9 Jan 08
The BNP is full of Nazis, and thats official. Dont take my word for it but listen to the BNP. Even they now admit that their leadership is rammed full of Hitler worshippers, Holocaust deniers and nazi saluting loons.
As the internal splits inside the BNP deepen it seems that every side is accusing each other of being neo-Nazis.
Nick Griffin has accused the rebels as being an ultra-right Militant Tendency within the BNP pushing of cranky neo-Nazi conspiracy theories. The rebels for their part never stop reminding us of Colletts own public nazi sympathies and Griffins Holocaust denial, to say nothing of the picture of the BNP leader giving a nazi salute in Scotland, alongside many of the very same people that he is now accusing of being Nazis!
So, the BNP is full of nazis. Well, tell us something we didnt know!
SixthFormer, Calne says...
11:29pm Mon 14 Jan 08
Contrary to Daily Mail/Express/Sun reports, this country in an irreversible decline. Much of the spiel that is reproduced by BNP supporters is scaremongering and simply panders to a media-driven public perception of the country.
A point of note for many above; there is no "PC" brigade. Do you object to not being able to address someone based on the colour of their skin?
You seem not to resent the change of words, but the lack of offence these now cause. Barely concealed racism. Rumours including the "blackboard/whiteboa
rd", "Rainbow Sheep" and the like are complete, and utter fabrications.
There is no sense!
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Bill, Wootton says...
4:56pm Fri 14 Dec 07
By the way who are these "furious people" - couldn't be supporters of the Tory & Labour Parties - you know - those people who approve of Miliband/Brown signing away what remained of our national sovereignty in Lisbon yesterday could it? Didn't we once hang traitors?