Wiltshire 'smartcard' would mean fairer fares and parking charges, say Lib Dems

Wiltshire 'smartcard' would mean fairer fares and parking charges, say Lib Dems

Coun Magnus Macdonald, Wiltshire Lib Dems' spokesperson for transport and highways

Coun Jon Hubbard, leader of Wiltshire's Lib Dems

First published in News

Wiltshire is on course to deliver fairer fares across the county, say local Liberal Democrats.

At a meeting today councillors backed a Lib Dem motion to begin developing a smartcard scheme for Wiltshire.

The development of the smartcard, proposed by Wiltshire Lib Dems' spokesperson for transport and highways Coun Magnus Macdonald, will soon begin with the hope it can bs used to pay for parking, public transport and a number of other services across the county.

Coun Macdonald said it was a step into the 21st century of transport.

"Wiltshire is really set to benefit from this," he said.

"This Lib Dem success will help deliver fairer fares in our council car parks and giving new opportunities for us in public transport."

"It rights the wrong of our council taking hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of change out of the pockets of Wiltshire residents as it will give people the opportunity to pay for the amount they use when they use it."

"Finally the Conservative administration have got that our county needs joined up thinking," said Coun Jon Hubbard, leader of Wiltshire's Lib Dems.

"Lib Dems have been calling for this approach for years and 'one card for Wiltshire' is the first step towards this."

"I hope they will continue to follow our lead and think of what can benefit Wiltshire residents in the long term and not move from short term fix to short term fix."

"I am proud of the work of done by Lib Dems in Wiltshire to deliver for our county and that the council can see a good idea when it is presented to it.

"We are a party of grown-up politics and working all year round to build a stronger economy and a fairer society right here in Wiltshire."

Council officers will report on the potential of smartcards at a future meeting.

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10:34am Wed 30 Jul 14

Grumpyoldgit99 says...

And I am absolutely sure that introducing an expensive IT solution will result in the reduction of car park charges. In other news, pink unicorns have been seen flying over County Hall.
And I am absolutely sure that introducing an expensive IT solution will result in the reduction of car park charges. In other news, pink unicorns have been seen flying over County Hall. Grumpyoldgit99
  • Score: 11

10:43am Wed 30 Jul 14

kimcrawley says...

The writing is on the wall for any subsidised service, every time our clown circus of councillors propose re-organisation or a new service they don't see the knock on effect. This system will be a disaster and cost us a fortune.
Why not look at a system of universal ticketing, allowing people to travel on the first available bus?
The writing is on the wall for any subsidised service, every time our clown circus of councillors propose re-organisation or a new service they don't see the knock on effect. This system will be a disaster and cost us a fortune. Why not look at a system of universal ticketing, allowing people to travel on the first available bus? kimcrawley
  • Score: 7

10:50am Wed 30 Jul 14

Room101 says...

How much is this going to cost. Why not just get rid of parking charges, instead of pending all this money for nothing.
How much is this going to cost. Why not just get rid of parking charges, instead of pending all this money for nothing. Room101
  • Score: 10

11:03am Wed 30 Jul 14

Room101 says...

Room101 wrote:
How much is this going to cost. Why not just get rid of parking charges, instead of pending all this money for nothing.
spending all this money (sorry). When it comes to this council it gets me rattled.
[quote][p][bold]Room101[/bold] wrote: How much is this going to cost. Why not just get rid of parking charges, instead of pending all this money for nothing.[/p][/quote]spending all this money (sorry). When it comes to this council it gets me rattled. Room101
  • Score: 6

8:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Phorever says...

Still wont make me want to shop in town centres, and I will not shop in town centres until free parking is introduced.
Still wont make me want to shop in town centres, and I will not shop in town centres until free parking is introduced. Phorever
  • Score: 5

11:38pm Wed 30 Jul 14

wiltshirebloke says...

It is not mentioned whether First, Wilts & Dorset, Stagecoach & Thamesdown have been approached about participating in this scheme. Wilts&Dorset and Stagecoach already have their own 'Smartcard' schemes, and I believe First are due to pilot something in Bristol shortly.

Add on to this, one of the biggest independent operators, Bodman's (Wiltshire Buses) have just gone into administration, I would have thought public transport monies & subsidies would be pressed into securing those routes futures, and indeed securing future operators for those routes.

Wiltshire Council, keep your eye on the ball - Smartcards and payments should be later down the line - focus on an integrated transport network firstly!
It is not mentioned whether First, Wilts & Dorset, Stagecoach & Thamesdown have been approached about participating in this scheme. Wilts&Dorset and Stagecoach already have their own 'Smartcard' schemes, and I believe First are due to pilot something in Bristol shortly. Add on to this, one of the biggest independent operators, Bodman's (Wiltshire Buses) have just gone into administration, I would have thought public transport monies & subsidies would be pressed into securing those routes futures, and indeed securing future operators for those routes. Wiltshire Council, keep your eye on the ball - Smartcards and payments should be later down the line - focus on an integrated transport network firstly! wiltshirebloke
  • Score: 5

8:15am Thu 31 Jul 14

moonrakin wurzel says...

Oh dear.... it does not have to be a Wiltshire Council smart card AT ALL It's pretty much the case that all money plastic cards will now be able to be used (look for the wireless logo on any card issued in the last six months) - the solution will be quite cheap as the sellers of the technology know they need to get it out there and compete with cash.

Of course "Council officers will report on the potential of smartcards at a future meeting" means the numpties at County Hall will have to have loads of meetings yada, yada, yada £££

I'm not alone in being fed up with town centre parking charges effectively ransoming people for running errands (both high charges and sneaky inflexible wardens) - The council have contributed to the demise of small shops / fragmentation of the shopping centre and presume even to tell people what they can sell on the market....

Perhaps they should be having behind finding training darkened rooms?
Oh dear.... it does not have to be a Wiltshire Council smart card AT ALL It's pretty much the case that all money plastic cards will now be able to be used (look for the wireless logo on any card issued in the last six months) - the solution will be quite cheap as the sellers of the technology know they need to get it out there and compete with cash. Of course "Council officers will report on the potential of smartcards at a future meeting" means the numpties at County Hall will have to have loads of meetings yada, yada, yada £££ I'm not alone in being fed up with town centre parking charges effectively ransoming people for running errands (both high charges and sneaky inflexible wardens) - The council have contributed to the demise of small shops / fragmentation of the shopping centre and presume even to tell people what they can sell on the market.... Perhaps they should be having behind finding training darkened rooms? moonrakin wurzel
  • Score: 4

8:50am Thu 31 Jul 14

the optimist says...

wiltshirebloke wrote:
It is not mentioned whether First, Wilts & Dorset, Stagecoach & Thamesdown have been approached about participating in this scheme. Wilts&Dorset and Stagecoach already have their own 'Smartcard' schemes, and I believe First are due to pilot something in Bristol shortly.

Add on to this, one of the biggest independent operators, Bodman's (Wiltshire Buses) have just gone into administration, I would have thought public transport monies & subsidies would be pressed into securing those routes futures, and indeed securing future operators for those routes.

Wiltshire Council, keep your eye on the ball - Smartcards and payments should be later down the line - focus on an integrated transport network firstly!
This concept has being going round and round for as long as I can remember and has never come to anything as it needs all companies to agree. Not much chance of that? I think the one company not mentioned is the one that will end it.

This is all a very political wish list being put out ahead of a general election. There seems to be a lot of flying animals about at the moment?

Must not forget who are speaking here either? Since when have the Lib Dumbs done anything to support public transport? Apologies about the spelling?
[quote][p][bold]wiltshirebloke[/bold] wrote: It is not mentioned whether First, Wilts & Dorset, Stagecoach & Thamesdown have been approached about participating in this scheme. Wilts&Dorset and Stagecoach already have their own 'Smartcard' schemes, and I believe First are due to pilot something in Bristol shortly. Add on to this, one of the biggest independent operators, Bodman's (Wiltshire Buses) have just gone into administration, I would have thought public transport monies & subsidies would be pressed into securing those routes futures, and indeed securing future operators for those routes. Wiltshire Council, keep your eye on the ball - Smartcards and payments should be later down the line - focus on an integrated transport network firstly![/p][/quote]This concept has being going round and round for as long as I can remember and has never come to anything as it needs all companies to agree. Not much chance of that? I think the one company not mentioned is the one that will end it. This is all a very political wish list being put out ahead of a general election. There seems to be a lot of flying animals about at the moment? Must not forget who are speaking here either? Since when have the Lib Dumbs done anything to support public transport? Apologies about the spelling? the optimist
  • Score: 4

12:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Andy M says...

The LibDems aren't in opposition, so they can't just rant on about the government being incompetent. And they're not really in government, so they can't boast about the wonderful things they've done; or at least they better not having welched on some pretty important election promises.

So what do they do? They come up with some catchy, flashy, pseudo-electorate-fr
iendly scheme that has no chance whatsoever of being in by the election, but that can be waved like like a big flag to prove that they're hip wid de keeds.

If they REALLY want to do something useful, they could make town centre parking free. We do own the land under the car parks after all. The council don't "own" anything, they just hold it in trust for the local population. They would do well to remember that sometimes.

If they want to be really trendy, they could make the parking meters and buses take Bitcoin .... yeah like that's going to happen.
The LibDems aren't in opposition, so they can't just rant on about the government being incompetent. And they're not really in government, so they can't boast about the wonderful things they've done; or at least they better not having welched on some pretty important election promises. So what do they do? They come up with some catchy, flashy, pseudo-electorate-fr iendly scheme that has no chance whatsoever of being in by the election, but that can be waved like like a big flag to prove that they're hip wid de keeds. If they REALLY want to do something useful, they could make town centre parking free. We do own the land under the car parks after all. The council don't "own" anything, they just hold it in trust for the local population. They would do well to remember that sometimes. If they want to be really trendy, they could make the parking meters and buses take Bitcoin .... yeah like that's going to happen. Andy M
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Bristolian_ExPat says...

Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver.
Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver. Bristolian_ExPat
  • Score: 5

11:48pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Grumpyoldgit99 says...

Bristolian_ExPat wrote:
Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver.
Thanks for the info. Can you point me in the direction of those £2.40 air flights that hand out free booze?
[quote][p][bold]Bristolian_ExPat[/bold] wrote: Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the info. Can you point me in the direction of those £2.40 air flights that hand out free booze? Grumpyoldgit99
  • Score: 1

6:49am Fri 1 Aug 14

Bristolian_ExPat says...

Grumpyoldgit99 wrote:
Bristolian_ExPat wrote:
Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver.
Thanks for the info. Can you point me in the direction of those £2.40 air flights that hand out free booze?
Heathrow to New York, average seat cost per mile 20.3 pence.
Perhaps we should tender Virgin Atlantic for our local bus services.
Come fly with me, lets fly lets fly away!
[quote][p][bold]Grumpyoldgit99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bristolian_ExPat[/bold] wrote: Will I get air miles with this new fangled card? It cost me £2.40 to get into Chippenham town the other week on the bus, thats £1.20 a mile which is more expensive than air travel. At least you get free G&Ts and trolley dollys when you fly, all i got on the bus was chewing gum stuck to the seat and a miserable driver.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the info. Can you point me in the direction of those £2.40 air flights that hand out free booze?[/p][/quote]Heathrow to New York, average seat cost per mile 20.3 pence. Perhaps we should tender Virgin Atlantic for our local bus services. Come fly with me, lets fly lets fly away! Bristolian_ExPat
  • Score: 5

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