‘Here’s my parking fine – in 1p pieces’

The Wiltshire Gazette and Herald: Kenneth Lambourne paid for his parking fine in pennies                                                     (VS208) By VICKY SCIPIO Kenneth Lambourne paid for his parking fine in pennies (VS208) By VICKY SCIPIO

A DRIVER was so brassed off at getting a £25 parking ticket – despite having paid and displayed – that he got 2,500 pennies and dumped them on the council office counter.

Pensioner Kenneth Lambourne parked at Borough Parade car park on a blustery day on Saturday, February 1, and paid £1.50 for two hours. But he failed to notice that on closing his car door, the wind had taken his ticket off the dashboard.

When he returned less than two hours later, the only ticket he found was on his windscreen.

After retrieving his paid-for ticket from the floor of his car, he said he took it into the Wiltshire Council offices, where it was photocopied, but he was told he would still have to pay the £25 fine.

“Basically it’s cost me £26.50 to park in Chippenham for two hours,” said Mr Lambourne, 64, who lives in The Oaks.

So he went to his High Street bank and withdrew 2,500 pennies, weighing more than 6kg, and lugged them to the Monkton Park offices in a plastic bag.

“It was quite heavy,” he said. “They were a bit taken aback. They asked if I wanted a receipt, did I want to wait while they counted them out, and I said ‘no, thank you’ and walked out.

“I did it to make a point. I don’t like being made an idiot of. I told them at the bank what it was for and they laughed and said, let us know how you get on.”

Mr Lambourne, who used to drive taxis in Chippenham for 20 years, said he has been driving for 47 years and had never had a parking ticket before.

He said: “I contested but it was refused. I found it a bit unfair because I had a valid ticket.

“We used to have stick-on tickets with the peel-off back but people complained they made a mess of their windscreen, so they did away with them. Well I think it’s a lame excuse.

“Why should I be penalised just because it’s made someone’s window dirty?”

Communities secretary Eric Pickles came to Chippenham in January to help Michelle Donelan, Chippenham’s Conservative prospective parliamentary candidate, launch a campaign to get free parking for the town centre. An hour’s free parking was removed from county car parks three years ago by Conservative-led Wiltshire Council.

Mr Lambourne said: “It’s a rip-off parking in Chippenham. If you go to Corsham it’s only 30p an hour.

“I just go into town to pass time, to have a cup of tea. The stuff I want I can’t find there, I have to go to Swindon and Bath. Clothes for men of my sort of age are pretty non-existent in Chippenham.”

A spokesman for Wiltshire Council said: “It is the responsibility of drivers to ensure a pay and display ticket is clearly displayed when required.

“Our officers take reasonable steps to look for a valid ticket, however on this occasion there was no evidence of one on the car dashboard, on the floor or seats and the appeal was rejected.”

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7:53pm Sat 8 Mar 14

mhudston says...

There is two trains of thought here. It is Pay and Display, and he paid, but the wind stopped him displaying so got a fine because he didn't display.

But I pay by phone and don't have a ticket to display, and I don't get fined, so is that discrimination on some grounds.

If I was him, I would write a strongly worded letter to his Councillor and say he is being treated un fairly. He did have a valid ticket, and OK it wasn't on display, but the exact same thing could be said for me, every time I pay by phone, which the council is encouraging.
There is two trains of thought here. It is Pay and Display, and he paid, but the wind stopped him displaying so got a fine because he didn't display. But I pay by phone and don't have a ticket to display, and I don't get fined, so is that discrimination on some grounds. If I was him, I would write a strongly worded letter to his Councillor and say he is being treated un fairly. He did have a valid ticket, and OK it wasn't on display, but the exact same thing could be said for me, every time I pay by phone, which the council is encouraging. mhudston
  • Score: 33

9:27pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

Same thing happened to me on a dark and windy morning at Salisbury railway station.

Producing the photocopy did no good either for the reason mentioned in the post above.

Shame they don't still have half pennies!
Same thing happened to me on a dark and windy morning at Salisbury railway station. Producing the photocopy did no good either for the reason mentioned in the post above. Shame they don't still have half pennies! Bournemouth Ohec
  • Score: 19

9:32pm Sat 8 Mar 14

loosewoman says...

This also happened to me some years ago in a car park in Melksham. When I returned to the car, I found the parking ticket on the windscreen, timed a scant two minutes after the time on my pay and display ticket (which was on the floor by the seat). Which meant that the traffic warden had probably watched me buy my ticket and put it in the car, before seizing on an excuse to fine me.
When I pointed this out to the Council, they waived the fine.
This also happened to me some years ago in a car park in Melksham. When I returned to the car, I found the parking ticket on the windscreen, timed a scant two minutes after the time on my pay and display ticket (which was on the floor by the seat). Which meant that the traffic warden had probably watched me buy my ticket and put it in the car, before seizing on an excuse to fine me. When I pointed this out to the Council, they waived the fine. loosewoman
  • Score: 15

8:52pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Lilachen says...

He should not have paid, let them take him to court and see what happens, the council should refund his money.
He should not have paid, let them take him to court and see what happens, the council should refund his money. Lilachen
  • Score: 16

10:00am Mon 10 Mar 14

Old retired bloke says...

1p pieces are not legal tender for any amount over 20p. The council should have refused payment and told him not to be so bl**dy childish. By all means appeal against the fine, but do it like a grown-up!
1p pieces are not legal tender for any amount over 20p. The council should have refused payment and told him not to be so bl**dy childish. By all means appeal against the fine, but do it like a grown-up! Old retired bloke
  • Score: -18

8:40am Tue 11 Mar 14

Dr H Z Hackenbush says...

If you look into the subject there is very little a council can do to enforce parking tickets and if I was this guy I would have refused to pay at all and ignored them..... They will give up eventually as I know from experience
PS
Google or Youtube if you dont believe my statement about "very little they can do"
If you look into the subject there is very little a council can do to enforce parking tickets and if I was this guy I would have refused to pay at all and ignored them..... They will give up eventually as I know from experience PS Google or Youtube if you dont believe my statement about "very little they can do" Dr H Z Hackenbush
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Tue 11 Mar 14

lordbuckethead says...

Old retired bloke wrote:
1p pieces are not legal tender for any amount over 20p. The council should have refused payment and told him not to be so bl**dy childish. By all means appeal against the fine, but do it like a grown-up!
Correct on all three of your points.
[quote][p][bold]Old retired bloke[/bold] wrote: 1p pieces are not legal tender for any amount over 20p. The council should have refused payment and told him not to be so bl**dy childish. By all means appeal against the fine, but do it like a grown-up![/p][/quote]Correct on all three of your points. lordbuckethead
  • Score: -1

1:43pm Tue 11 Mar 14

moonrakin wurzel says...

When the council is grabbing / making more money from fines than actually providing a service - something is wrong

Residents near town centres are being inconvenienced mightily by people refusing to use over-priced council car parks and street parking.

The grasping fools are killing small shops in town centres by driving shoppers out to retail parks - then they demand more money for "revitalising" the town ... gah...
When the council is grabbing / making more money from fines than actually providing a service - something is wrong Residents near town centres are being inconvenienced mightily by people refusing to use over-priced council car parks and street parking. The grasping fools are killing small shops in town centres by driving shoppers out to retail parks - then they demand more money for "revitalising" the town ... gah... moonrakin wurzel
  • Score: 13

5:17pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Hilperton Man says...

Refused to pay and i'm sure it was not worth taking this man to court.
Refused to pay and i'm sure it was not worth taking this man to court. Hilperton Man
  • Score: 5

11:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

The.Central.Scrutinizer says...

the finall official quote in this article...."..
“Our officers take reasonable steps to look for a valid ticket, however on this occasion there was no evidence of one on the car dashboard, on the floor or seats and the appeal was rejected.”........
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seems to be missing an account of the photocopy of the valid ticket,which was part of the appeal.
the finall official quote in this article....".. “Our officers take reasonable steps to look for a valid ticket, however on this occasion there was no evidence of one on the car dashboard, on the floor or seats and the appeal was rejected.”........ . seems to be missing an account of the photocopy of the valid ticket,which was part of the appeal. The.Central.Scrutinizer
  • Score: 5

6:44am Thu 13 Mar 14

Fumble says...

Thanks for the tips! Next time I park I shan't bother buying a parking ticket. If I get a fine I'll just get someone else's valid parking ticket and claim it's mine and that it "fell on the floor when I closed the door". If that fails I won't pay the fine and I'll let the council waste tax-payers' money chasing me. Excellent!
Thanks for the tips! Next time I park I shan't bother buying a parking ticket. If I get a fine I'll just get someone else's valid parking ticket and claim it's mine and that it "fell on the floor when I closed the door". If that fails I won't pay the fine and I'll let the council waste tax-payers' money chasing me. Excellent! Fumble
  • Score: 8

10:45am Fri 14 Mar 14

PinkyPinky says...

Residents in Chippenham should be issued with 1 parking pass per household (extra passes available at nominal fee) that entitles them to 1 hour free parking in any Council run car park in Chippenham. This would be very easily issued if it were to be included in the envelope with the Council Tax Calculations. Anyone who loses theirs should also be able to purchase a replacement at nominal cost. As someone with a mild disability I am not entitled to a blue badge but sometimes have to park so far away from where I need to be (in a free parking spot) that I am in extreme pain by the time I get back to the car.
Residents in Chippenham should be issued with 1 parking pass per household (extra passes available at nominal fee) that entitles them to 1 hour free parking in any Council run car park in Chippenham. This would be very easily issued if it were to be included in the envelope with the Council Tax Calculations. Anyone who loses theirs should also be able to purchase a replacement at nominal cost. As someone with a mild disability I am not entitled to a blue badge but sometimes have to park so far away from where I need to be (in a free parking spot) that I am in extreme pain by the time I get back to the car. PinkyPinky
  • Score: 1

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