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The strongest evidence so far that some crop circles are not man made was presented to a choice gathering at the Coronation Hall in Alton Barnes yesterday.
Norwegian film maker Terje Toftenes presented the DVD he has made of the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the creation of a massive crop formation in East Field, Alton Barnes, on July 7.
Most formations are discovered the morning after and some have even been created in fields with observers sitting on overlooking hills.
But on the morning in question, dedicated UFO hunter Winston Keech had a battery of cameras, from CCTV to state-of-the-art digicams, trained on the field on the off chance that something might happen.
He was joined by Gary King and his partner Paul Presdee-Jones, who had also decided to climb to the top of Knap Hill, near Alton Barnes, on a spur-of-the-moment whim.
They had already met the previous evening at the "croppies" cafe at Cherhill, near Calne, when Mr Keech had become rather excited about a DVD that was being shown about lights that sometimes accompany the appearance of crop circles.
He had explained that something similar had happened to him in 1990 when he all but witnessed the creation of a simple circle in crops in East Field.
Little did he know he would witness the creation of something a lot more complex.
At around 1.35am on July 7 Mr Keech, helped by Mr King, completed the last sweep of the area using a camera equipped with night vision. No formation was visible in the field.
Then it became intensely dark and nothing was seen. But at 3.13am there was a flash of what Mr Keech described as sheet lightning.
It appeared on the video footage and lasted four microseconds. Twenty minutes later, at 3.20am, there was enough light to make out the formation in the field below.
It was one of the largest ever seen. It measured 1,033 feet long and consisted of 150 circles, the largest of which was 164ft across.
Ms Presdee-Jones said: "We all went mad. Gary was dancing a jig."
Mr King told the gathering: "I had to be the first one in the circle. As soon as it was light enough to see where we were going, we went down.
"The corn had a glass-like quality to it and it snapped like glass when we stepped on it. My dog, Blue, went berserk.
"He is a dedicated meat eater, but he started eating the crop as though he was ravenous. Then he was violently sick."
Veteran crop circle investigator Lucy Pringle said the circumstances surrounding the formation made it very dramatic.
She said: "Because of the undulations in the field, it is impossible for someone standing at one side of the formation to see anyone standing at the other end.
"When I was standing in the centre of the formation, I couldn't see people in the lower part of formation."
Mr Toftenes pointed out another extraordinary element in the situation. He said: "Although from the air the circles look perfectly round, they are, in fact, ovals.
"Allowance has been made for the undulations in the ground and the only place you can see that the circles are perfect is from the air."
Mr King said: "The floodgates need to open now and allow all the research carried out by some very clever people to be made public.
"It is time to listen to all the people who have been looking at this phenomenon for so many years."
Ms Pringle said that samples of the crop have been sent for analysis to laboratories in Yorkshire.
8:32am Friday 20th July 2007
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CommentPosted by: twas_brillig33, Calabasas Calif. on 7:37am Sat 21 Jul 07
Awesome!!! the left part of the crop circle looks like someone doin the jig.
Awesome!!! the left part of the crop circle looks like someone doin the jig.
Posted by: Bobby, Wiltshire on 6:09pm Sat 21 Jul 07
It looks brilliant and I definitely think it's something that can't just be explained away.
[quote]But at 3.13am there was a flash of what Mr Keech described as sheet lightning.
It appeared on the video footage and lasted four microseconds. Twenty minutes later, at 3.20am, there was enough light to make out the formation in the field below.[/quote]
I'm rubbish at maths but isn't it only 7 minutes between 3.13am and 3.20am?! :o)
It looks brilliant and I definitely think it's something that can't just be explained away.
But at 3.13am there was a flash of what Mr Keech described as sheet lightning.
It appeared on the video footage and lasted four microseconds. Twenty minutes later, at 3.20am, there was enough light to make out the formation in the field below.
I'm rubbish at maths but isn't it only 7 minutes between 3.13am and 3.20am?! :o)
Posted by: jb on 8:50pm Sat 21 Jul 07
what the heck is a microsecond?
does he mean 4 seconds that are much smaller than ordinary ones?
or 4/1000ths of a second?
If not why not say so?
what the heck is a microsecond?
does he mean 4 seconds that are much smaller than ordinary ones?
or 4/1000ths of a second?
If not why not say so?
Posted by: spooks, calne on 9:57pm Sun 22 Jul 07
see the devizes rugby team has been on the p-ss again.lol
see the devizes rugby team has been on the p-ss again.lol
Posted by: Morrigan, Wales on 2:45pm Wed 25 Jul 07
Sorry but this total and utter rubbish.
All these formations are man made and it's people like this guy above making false claims that keeps this rubbish going year after year.
It is very easy to fake the making of a crop circle. It's been done before.
These people will not except that there is no mystery in these and try to make one.
How do I know this. I know people who make them. Remember the Milk Hill formation in 2001. Its a fake. I know who helped make it.
It's not supernatural.
I'm not revealing names because the circle makers have been attacked both verbally and physically but crop circle believers.
They've been stalked by them and when they found a group making a circle, they then proceeded to stone them.
They are very artistic and those that make them go to a lot of trouble doing so but thats all. No mystery.
But of course theres no money to be made if theres no mystery is there?
This crop circle thing is well past it's sell by date.
Sorry but this total and utter rubbish.
All these formations are man made and it's people like this guy above making false claims that keeps this rubbish going year after year.
It is very easy to fake the making of a crop circle. It's been done before.
These people will not except that there is no mystery in these and try to make one.
How do I know this. I know people who make them. Remember the Milk Hill formation in 2001. Its a fake. I know who helped make it.
It's not supernatural.
I'm not revealing names because the circle makers have been attacked both verbally and physically but crop circle believers.
They've been stalked by them and when they found a group making a circle, they then proceeded to stone them.
They are very artistic and those that make them go to a lot of trouble doing so but thats all. No mystery.
But of course theres no money to be made if theres no mystery is there?
This crop circle thing is well past it's sell by date.
Posted by: solebello, rhode island on 3:25am Thu 26 Jul 07
no doubt some are made by people with nothing better to do. maybe it is those that are the spoiled commodity.
no doubt some are made by people with nothing better to do. maybe it is those that are the spoiled commodity.
Posted by: nelly33, Chippenham on 1:20pm Fri 27 Jul 07
Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser!
Morrigan, I really think you probably should have added bah humbug to that comment. Unless by some strange quirk of fate you are in fact an expert on the formation of crop circles why not keep an open mind. And who's making the money here then? Only past it's sell by date in your opinion I think you'll find. And hey if you don't like just don't bother reading it!
Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser!
Morrigan, I really think you probably should have added bah humbug to that comment. Unless by some strange quirk of fate you are in fact an expert on the formation of crop circles why not keep an open mind. And who's making the money here then? Only past it's sell by date in your opinion I think you'll find. And hey if you don't like just don't bother reading it!
Posted by: thedave, California on 5:00am Sat 28 Jul 07
Are you kidding me? Theres still people who dont know how real these are? First off, a human couldnt even do it with the EXACT geometry. Chemical changes and the way the crops are bent are not humanly possible. Now there are 3D crop circles. The few man made examples are like kindergarten drawings compared to architectual plans for a complex bldg. Please, take a look at the actual facts NOT the propaganda to hide it all from you (which I see is working pretty well).
Are you kidding me? Theres still people who dont know how real these are? First off, a human couldnt even do it with the EXACT geometry. Chemical changes and the way the crops are bent are not humanly possible. Now there are 3D crop circles. The few man made examples are like kindergarten drawings compared to architectual plans for a complex bldg. Please, take a look at the actual facts NOT the propaganda to hide it all from you (which I see is working pretty well).
Posted by: nothuman, liverpool on 9:05am Sat 28 Jul 07
coz most people are dead from the neck up,and cannot grasp reallity,i will attempt to pont you in the right direction,GOOGLE "scalar Tom Bearden",scroll down to the crop circle,reading the whole page,will give some idea what we are dealing with!......
snip..
[quote]It would seem that the mysterious appearance of crop circles around the world could be accomplished by feeding a precise mathematical graphic pattern into the computerized aiming software and change the very molecular structure of the crops themselves along the lines of that pattern. The stalks fall over from the localized effect of the longitudinal waves. A plasma ball tracing patterns? Are they slyly sending a message to see if we are "getting it" yet?[/quote]
coz most people are dead from the neck up,and cannot grasp reallity,i will attempt to pont you in the right direction,GOOGLE "scalar Tom Bearden",scroll down to the crop circle,reading the whole page,will give some idea what we are dealing with!......
snip..
It would seem that the mysterious appearance of crop circles around the world could be accomplished by feeding a precise mathematical graphic pattern into the computerized aiming software and change the very molecular structure of the crops themselves along the lines of that pattern. The stalks fall over from the localized effect of the longitudinal waves. A plasma ball tracing patterns? Are they slyly sending a message to see if we are "getting it" yet?
Posted by: shrek4, earth on 10:18am Sat 28 Jul 07
Poor little croppies. If they weren't so sad I would feel sorry for them. Suckered into their beliefs via hi-tech which could be performed from feet away, or miles away, or perhaps even from above.
You can't tell me that in this day and age, people cannot print what are often occult symbols in crops, and then charge the likes of you for going to view them?
Doh.... glad I am not functioning on your level.
Doh!
Poor little croppies. If they weren't so sad I would feel sorry for them. Suckered into their beliefs via hi-tech which could be performed from feet away, or miles away, or perhaps even from above.
You can't tell me that in this day and age, people cannot print what are often occult symbols in crops, and then charge the likes of you for going to view them?
Doh.... glad I am not functioning on your level.
Doh!
Posted by: Revelator, Canada on 2:01pm Sat 28 Jul 07
Those of you who are so gullible, as to think that this phenomena is man made will be the first ones to board the craft of these greys, reptiles and annunaki who are working with the satanist illuminati that are controlling the worlds militaries. Crop circles are a ruse to convince you that a benevolent race of beings are about to bring you your salvation on a silver platter, WRONG AGAIN WEEDHOPPER! "Even the Elect would be deceived, if it were possible" I suggest you do some reading at prophecies dot org and inform yourself about what is about to occur. "unless these days are shortened, no flesh will survive"
Those of you who are so gullible, as to think that this phenomena is man made will be the first ones to board the craft of these greys, reptiles and annunaki who are working with the satanist illuminati that are controlling the worlds militaries. Crop circles are a ruse to convince you that a benevolent race of beings are about to bring you your salvation on a silver platter, WRONG AGAIN WEEDHOPPER! "Even the Elect would be deceived, if it were possible" I suggest you do some reading at prophecies dot org and inform yourself about what is about to occur. "unless these days are shortened, no flesh will survive"
Posted by: Revelator, Canada on 2:21pm Sat 28 Jul 07
Message for the Noahs
"Those that love the world will despise the prophecies of its demise. They will weep and howl at the destruction of their Babylon, their human construction of works, built by human effort through human wisdom, which is devilish.
Those that seek no continuing city on this earth, but one with foundations, whose Builder and Maker is God, are Abraham’s true children who please Me and are My friends, loving Me more than even their own life, because I am the Author of life. They rejoice that by these signs their redemption draws nigh.
Those that seek to preserve this earthen life deny its impending doom. Those that love Me and My righteousness are vexed by the wicked and welcome the overthrow of darkness.
As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man. For they mocked and laughed until it was too late.
I have given these prophecies because there are Noahs who I want to hear them. They will receive the Word gladly and bear fruit and glorify Me. Do not be alarmed by unbelievers who become enraged as the Pharisees were. The Laodicean Church is puffed with self-suffiency and pride. By and large it will not repent, but for the sake of some open hearts inside I knock and speak," says Jesus
These prophetic words will divide asunder, judging the thoughts and intents of hearts. They will manifest the secret tendencies of men, whether they truly love Me or their own life.
All human accomplishments are as nothing before Me; all is vanity under the Sun. All this strife will come to and end, as I will not always strive with this fallen race. It is temporary; its days are numbered; it was poisoned by the fruit of the forbidden. From dust it came and to dust it shall return. I spoke words of re-creation to this fallen race, so that whoever would believe would have a new life. The condemnation is that some preferred darkness.
I came in a body of flesh so you could be clothed with the body of Spirit. I died your death so you could live My life. I took on your sins so that you could take on My righteousness.
I try men’s hearts, and I will use these prophecies to cause many to be tried, and search their souls, repent and be delivered. The Ninevites listened and repented.
Many will find salvation through these words. Do not look for affirmation from the church but fruit from the "Gentiles". The Jews rejected Me, but the Ninevites believed and were delivered.
You will have a multitude of spiritual children.
My word, which goes forth, will accomplish the good purpose for which I send it. It shall reap a harvest, for it is the Word of Life, and the truth will set many free, though the liars will rage."
prophecies.org
Message for the Noahs
"Those that love the world will despise the prophecies of its demise. They will weep and howl at the destruction of their Babylon, their human construction of works, built by human effort through human wisdom, which is devilish.
Those that seek no continuing city on this earth, but one with foundations, whose Builder and Maker is God, are Abraham’s true children who please Me and are My friends, loving Me more than even their own life, because I am the Author of life. They rejoice that by these signs their redemption draws nigh.
Those that seek to preserve this earthen life deny its impending doom. Those that love Me and My righteousness are vexed by the wicked and welcome the overthrow of darkness.
As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man. For they mocked and laughed until it was too late.
I have given these prophecies because there are Noahs who I want to hear them. They will receive the Word gladly and bear fruit and glorify Me. Do not be alarmed by unbelievers who become enraged as the Pharisees were. The Laodicean Church is puffed with self-suffiency and pride. By and large it will not repent, but for the sake of some open hearts inside I knock and speak," says Jesus
These prophetic words will divide asunder, judging the thoughts and intents of hearts. They will manifest the secret tendencies of men, whether they truly love Me or their own life.
All human accomplishments are as nothing before Me; all is vanity under the Sun. All this strife will come to and end, as I will not always strive with this fallen race. It is temporary; its days are numbered; it was poisoned by the fruit of the forbidden. From dust it came and to dust it shall return. I spoke words of re-creation to this fallen race, so that whoever would believe would have a new life. The condemnation is that some preferred darkness.
I came in a body of flesh so you could be clothed with the body of Spirit. I died your death so you could live My life. I took on your sins so that you could take on My righteousness.
I try men’s hearts, and I will use these prophecies to cause many to be tried, and search their souls, repent and be delivered. The Ninevites listened and repented.
Many will find salvation through these words. Do not look for affirmation from the church but fruit from the "Gentiles". The Jews rejected Me, but the Ninevites believed and were delivered.
You will have a multitude of spiritual children.
My word, which goes forth, will accomplish the good purpose for which I send it. It shall reap a harvest, for it is the Word of Life, and the truth will set many free, though the liars will rage."
prophecies.org
Posted by: Evan Palmer, Canada on 2:23pm Sat 28 Jul 07
So we have several possible sources of these crop circles.
1 - made manually by humans
2 - some unusual natural phenomena
3 - made using high-tech by humans
4 - made using high-tech by non-human entities
Given the number and variety of crop circles to date, it seems that we may have each of the above as a potential source.
The key point being that it does not seem possible that some crop circles were created manually by humans or by any known natural phenomena.
In trying to determine which of the other two (or other?) sources, it would help our inquiry if we knew to what purpose these crop circles are being created?
Why just crops? Do we see these shapes appearing in other terrains? They were reports of them in ice and snow, weren't there?
If we could discern a message in some of the crop circles, it may help us.
I also think we have to move beyond cameras and the like, if we can afford it, placing devices in the fields themselves that can register various EM frequencies and other similar types of readings.
If we accept that the field was normal at one point in time as per numerous witnesses and recordings and then a fairly massive intricate pattern is seen a short time later, [bold]something out-of-the-ordinary has occurred!![/bold]
So we have several possible sources of these crop circles.
1 - made manually by humans
2 - some unusual natural phenomena
3 - made using high-tech by humans
4 - made using high-tech by non-human entities
Given the number and variety of crop circles to date, it seems that we may have each of the above as a potential source.
The key point being that it does not seem possible that some crop circles were created manually by humans or by any known natural phenomena.
In trying to determine which of the other two (or other?) sources, it would help our inquiry if we knew to what purpose these crop circles are being created?
Why just crops? Do we see these shapes appearing in other terrains? They were reports of them in ice and snow, weren't there?
If we could discern a message in some of the crop circles, it may help us.
I also think we have to move beyond cameras and the like, if we can afford it, placing devices in the fields themselves that can register various EM frequencies and other similar types of readings.
If we accept that the field was normal at one point in time as per numerous witnesses and recordings and then a fairly massive intricate pattern is seen a short time later,
something out-of-the-ordinary has occurred!! Posted by: Pingu, wilts on 11:08pm Sat 28 Jul 07
Why cant the alien creators turn up at midday and wreck the crops?
And why do the intricate designs? why not just a message such as "come and have a go if you think your hard enough" as chanted in most towns at alien kicking out time?
Why cant the alien creators turn up at midday and wreck the crops?
And why do the intricate designs? why not just a message such as "come and have a go if you think your hard enough" as chanted in most towns at alien kicking out time?
Posted by: mango, U.S.A on 3:55am Sun 29 Jul 07
Evan is right, it's #3,
man made hi-tech by humans, anyone who has ever seen or used a computer etching or cutting machine can almost imagine how it's done, its very similar, only using scalar electromagnetic waves generated by the earth, harnessed and controlled the same way we harness and control electricity, I don't think they want the masses to know how easy it is. The NWO loves to show off! Technology has been with us since creation, it's part of the creation, man does not invent technologies, he only reveals them. Face it, the secrect of our existence is being hidden from us. The fact that the scientists can do this tells you they can solve the worlds energy problems, why don't they then? Ask a High level freemason.
Evan is right, it's #3,
man made hi-tech by humans, anyone who has ever seen or used a computer etching or cutting machine can almost imagine how it's done, its very similar, only using scalar electromagnetic waves generated by the earth, harnessed and controlled the same way we harness and control electricity, I don't think they want the masses to know how easy it is. The NWO loves to show off! Technology has been with us since creation, it's part of the creation, man does not invent technologies, he only reveals them. Face it, the secrect of our existence is being hidden from us. The fact that the scientists can do this tells you they can solve the worlds energy problems, why don't they then? Ask a High level freemason.
Posted by: Lash, Darwin, Australia on 3:08pm Mon 30 Jul 07
[quote][bold]nelly33[/bold] wrote:
Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser! Morrigan, I really think you probably should have added bah humbug to that comment. Unless by some strange quirk of fate you are in fact an expert on the formation of crop circles why not keep an open mind. And who's making the money here then? Only past it's sell by date in your opinion I think you'll find. And hey if you don't like just don't bother reading it![/quote] [quote]Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser[/quote]
Close, but no cigar!
four microseconds is in fact four millionths of a second.
So when you consider that standard PAL video running at 25 frames per second, captures each frame during a period of 40 milliseconds of real time.
With 625 lines per frame this gives you a period of 64 microseconds per line.
From this we can see that 4 microseconds is the time that a PAL video recorder takes to capture one eighth of a line in one frame of PAL video.
So what this guy has captured on video tape is a tiny white spec that only exists on one of the frames.
Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder how he even noticed it was there :)
nelly33 wrote:
Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser! Morrigan, I really think you probably should have added bah humbug to that comment. Unless by some strange quirk of fate you are in fact an expert on the formation of crop circles why not keep an open mind. And who's making the money here then? Only past it's sell by date in your opinion I think you'll find. And hey if you don't like just don't bother reading it!
Spooks, that is what he said, 4/1000ths of a second is infact 4 micro seconds. Try looking up SI units on your browser
Close, but no cigar!
four microseconds is in fact four millionths of a second.
So when you consider that standard PAL video running at 25 frames per second, captures each frame during a period of 40 milliseconds of real time.
With 625 lines per frame this gives you a period of 64 microseconds per line.
From this we can see that 4 microseconds is the time that a PAL video recorder takes to capture one eighth of a line in one frame of PAL video.
So what this guy has captured on video tape is a tiny white spec that only exists on one of the frames.
Hmmm, kinda makes you wonder how he even noticed it was there :)
Posted by: spooks, calne on 12:47pm Sat 4 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Revelator[/bold] wrote:
Those of you who are so gullible, as to think that this phenomena is man made will be the first ones to board the craft of these greys, reptiles and annunaki who are working with the satanist illuminati that are controlling the worlds militaries. Crop circles are a ruse to convince you that a benevolent race of beings are about to bring you your salvation on a silver platter, WRONG AGAIN WEEDHOPPER! "Even the Elect would be deceived, if it were possible" I suggest you do some reading at prophecies dot org and inform yourself about what is about to occur. "unless these days are shortened, no flesh will survive"[/quote] Lower the dose love.You will get a clearer head.
Round here most is man made to attract the tourist who are gulible anough to falll for it.
Revelator wrote:
Those of you who are so gullible, as to think that this phenomena is man made will be the first ones to board the craft of these greys, reptiles and annunaki who are working with the satanist illuminati that are controlling the worlds militaries. Crop circles are a ruse to convince you that a benevolent race of beings are about to bring you your salvation on a silver platter, WRONG AGAIN WEEDHOPPER! "Even the Elect would be deceived, if it were possible" I suggest you do some reading at prophecies dot org and inform yourself about what is about to occur. "unless these days are shortened, no flesh will survive"
Lower the dose love.You will get a clearer head.
Round here most is man made to attract the tourist who are gulible anough to falll for it.
Posted by: twas_brillig33, Calabasas Calif. on 5:07pm Sun 5 Aug 07
Bastardized Teslan scalar EM Technology weilded by the deceptive Satanic Reptillian controlled illuminati or not, I still say it looks like a character doin a jig.
Bastardized Teslan scalar EM Technology weilded by the deceptive Satanic Reptillian controlled illuminati or not, I still say it looks like a character doin a jig.
Posted by: twas_brillig33, Calabasas Calif. on 5:15pm Sun 5 Aug 07
And for those who still think this is made from a PLANK/ BOARD and STRING,where's my paddle. SMACK! BLOW IT OUT YOUR NODES you BLITHERING BLOWTARTS! By the armchair research alone it's so clearly of a high tech energy source, even a CAVEMAN could see it.
And for those who still think this is made from a PLANK/ BOARD and STRING,where's my paddle. SMACK! BLOW IT OUT YOUR NODES you BLITHERING BLOWTARTS! By the armchair research alone it's so clearly of a high tech energy source, even a CAVEMAN could see it.
Posted by: hectorsfriend, marlborough on 8:08am Thu 9 Aug 07
Come on People, Crop circles are not man made!
Come on of course they are, don't be so simple please.
Just go to any of the pubs in Marlborough and you'll find someone who goes out and makes them.
I know atleast 3 people who do and have done for the past 10 years.
Crop circles are not made by aliens trying to communicate with us, just a few locals who like to have a laugh, but in doing so have grab the attention of the rest of the world.
Go Moonrakers is what I say!
Come on People, Crop circles are not man made!
Come on of course they are, don't be so simple please.
Just go to any of the pubs in Marlborough and you'll find someone who goes out and makes them.
I know atleast 3 people who do and have done for the past 10 years.
Crop circles are not made by aliens trying to communicate with us, just a few locals who like to have a laugh, but in doing so have grab the attention of the rest of the world.
Go Moonrakers is what I say!
Posted by: The Maxter, Chippenham on 6:25am Mon 13 Aug 07
Man made and in this case a complete hoax by the 'investigators'
Note all the formations can be etched from an area such as a farm machine track. The centre point for all the circle/arc construction is a machine track, the arcs all end at machine tracks, thus allowing the perpatrators movement around the feilds without detection afterwards.
Complete rubbish, as bad as that 'Great White' story that was faked in cornwall. Those of you who think its Aliens should get a life. I've been to Roswell and theres naff all there too!
Man made and in this case a complete hoax by the 'investigators'
Note all the formations can be etched from an area such as a farm machine track. The centre point for all the circle/arc construction is a machine track, the arcs all end at machine tracks, thus allowing the perpatrators movement around the feilds without detection afterwards.
Complete rubbish, as bad as that 'Great White' story that was faked in cornwall. Those of you who think its Aliens should get a life. I've been to Roswell and theres naff all there too!
Posted by: Cropdoc, Ontario, Canada on 4:02am Mon 22 Oct 07
Any results on the analysis of the wheat grain or the straw??
Any results on the analysis of the wheat grain or the straw??
Posted by: cosmic genius, oxford uk on 10:59am Thu 24 Jan 08
I have seen two crop circles near here. One was about 2 years ago in Garsington. It was very complex but I'm quite happy to accept that it was a hoax (that no one has owned up to) because it looked a bit scruffy by comparison to one I had seen in the summer of '94 at Ipsden. That one had nine circles from small to large. According to the farmer it appeared within a time window of 10 minutes. On examination I observed that the stalks were not broken but appeared to have grown bent from the ground. That's what distinguishes a genuine inexplicable mystery circle from a hoax. The greater mystery is that there are people out there who are actually gullible enough to believe that all crop circles are man made - as if there is nothing in the universe that can be a mystery to us.
I have seen two crop circles near here. One was about 2 years ago in Garsington. It was very complex but I'm quite happy to accept that it was a hoax (that no one has owned up to) because it looked a bit scruffy by comparison to one I had seen in the summer of '94 at Ipsden. That one had nine circles from small to large. According to the farmer it appeared within a time window of 10 minutes. On examination I observed that the stalks were not broken but appeared to have grown bent from the ground. That's what distinguishes a genuine inexplicable mystery circle from a hoax. The greater mystery is that there are people out there who are actually gullible enough to believe that all crop circles are man made - as if there is nothing in the universe that can be a mystery to us.
Posted by: woods101, uk on 12:15pm Thu 14 Feb 08
Have to say i went to see this crop circle above- drove down from london, and walking around it, it was clear due to various mistakes ( circles half finished/ bad symetry/ geometry )that it was man made. I do believe that there are real circles but those that are classed as 'unexplainable/real etc are accurate geometrically within a 1% margin. This one wasn't. You could see where paths of circles had been started and then went wrong or were just given up on. Too ambitous people. Try again and think smaller. Me? Gutted.
Have to say i went to see this crop circle above- drove down from london, and walking around it, it was clear due to various mistakes ( circles half finished/ bad symetry/ geometry )that it was man made. I do believe that there are real circles but those that are classed as 'unexplainable/real etc are accurate geometrically within a 1% margin. This one wasn't. You could see where paths of circles had been started and then went wrong or were just given up on. Too ambitous people. Try again and think smaller. Me? Gutted.
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